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Welcome everyone, new and old players alike! This is Tundra civ, a civ thread series in a fictional, non-fantasy setting where you play as the rulers of the White Republic, a nation in a world similar to our own.
Check out the pastebin for story, technologies, stats etc.
http://pastebin.com/t7gWa2pa
And an archive of previous threads if you want to skim through some of them.
http://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/boards/pol.tg/subject/Civ/username/Civ%20bulgar/page/1/
Previously on Tundra civ:
The Great War was followed by years of peace and prosperity, before a major financial crash in late 1180 AE. Within a year the crisis was dealt with, thankfuly. Years of prosperity have followed as technology has advanced, new laws have been set and our military has been made stronger than ever. It is now the year 1189 After Exile, the White Republic stands strong.

>Population:172 000 000 (78% white, 15 % chink,2%hibibi, 3% darkskin,2% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 27 500 000 Eyerdar 15 200 000 Veita 15 100 000 Ocras

>Economy:8//10
>Food stockpiles:8/10
>Food production: 8/10
>Political Stability:8/10


>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Construction
>F.Improve Military
>G.Research science
>H.Improve Navy
>I.Improve economy
>J.Regional development
>K.Diplomacy and war
>L.Government and laws
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Last time we instituted the Substances Consumption Law. Alcohol may be consumed by all men and women ages 18+. Tobacco and drugs have been banned.
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>>47388345
>>J.Regional development
Bring up the standard of living within our cities. No more slums, time to nip communism in the bud.
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The NPU has been struggling for its economic survival after the war, having lost much of its arable lands, but being swarmed by refugees from the lost territories.The reparations have mostly been paid by now, but the terms of disarmament still stand.
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Really bad upload speed, as usual.
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>>47388596
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>>47388277
>I.Improve economy
Alright let's go been wait for so long
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>>47388420
>>47388629
Let's combine the two.
What general economic policy will be pursued now?
A.Lower taxes and spending, let the economy grow by letting people have their own money to spend without the entanglement of bureaucracy
B.More focus on urban development
C.More focus on rural development
D.Raise more taxes to afford larger development projects in all possible areas
E.Other
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>>47388691
>C.More focus on rural development
>D.Raise more taxes to afford larger development projects in all possible areas
We need to create more local cities.
It will greatly improve our economy if optimized transport is available to most everywhere, business could the implant themselves locally instead of only in urban region thus removing most disadvantages of cities at the cost of more transportation.
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>>47388744
I like this
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Rolled 29 (1d100)

Rural conservatives have managed to gain support in the Council for large investments into regional development...
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>>47388829
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>>47388829
This is going to be one of THESES threads.
Guess you'll have your fun this time bulgar.
Can't wait for strikes and riots because of taxes.
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>>47388420

What he said. J
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While certainly well-intended, the efforts of the rurals didn't produce quite the results they had hoped for. Corruption, inefficiency, mismanagement - there have been many problems encountered as tax avoidance has increased along with other instances of crime throughout the republic. Some investments have made their way to rural regions in Aymsland, still, but the public has been generally unhappy with the current government's decisions - the massive military spending, the banning of tobacco and now the Rural Development Act of 1189.
The Southsea Coalition in particular has been angry at the Establishment.

>Population:173 000 000 (78% white, 15 % chink,2%hibibi, 3% darkskin,2% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 27 600 000 Eyerdar 15 300 000 Veita 15 300 000 Ocras

>Economy:7//10
>Food stockpiles:8/10
>Food production: 8/10
>Political Stability:6/10


>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Construction
>F.Improve Military
>G.Research science
>H.Improve Navy
>I.Improve economy
>J.Regional development
>K.Diplomacy and war
>L.Government and laws
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>>47388919
>L.Government and laws
Nothing some propaganda and more administrative work can't fix.
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>>47388919
Ah for fucks sake, we got a case of the mob.
>K.Diplomacy and war
Lets fix this shit. Calm everything down, maybe more entertainment?
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>>47388919
>L.Government and laws
Lets try to fix the problems with corruption, inefficiency and mismanagement.
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L it is.
There's six major political parties in the Council.
Conservatives are split between Traditionalists(who value religion, traditional 4values etc.), Urbans(government-involved industrial development), Rurals(government-involved rural development). Liberals are divided into social(expansion of personal and political freedoms), market(proponents of less government involvement in the market) and there's the Southsea Coalition, representing the interest of the southern colonies, who generally align themselves with the liberals.
There's elections every two years, alternating between Upper(Council and President) and Lower(Congress and Chancellor) with four year mandates for every official. Conservatives hold a majority in both Houses as well as the Chancellor and President positions. In recent years traditionalists have pushed for the ban on tobacco and drugs, urbans(connected to the powerful military-industrial complex) have supported an increase in the military's size and expenditure and rurals have most recently passed the Rural Development Act, which has been poorly recieved by most.
The ruling government's popularity has plumetted in the last three years, in the upcoming elections for Council and President the liberals have a great opportunity to gain traction.
We, the Elites of this country, must make a choice on how we shall influence the upcoming election season.
Choose as many as you want.
A.Shift blame on rurals
B.Shift blame on urbans
C.Shift blame on traditionalists
D.Get more influence among the market liberals - we'd have to go with less direct involvement with the economy, letting the free market take its course
E.Get more influence among social liberals - social and political reforms, limiting government power and the cumbersome bureaucracy in general
F.Get more influence among the Southsea Coalition - possibly moving towards federalisation and more Regional Rights
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>>47389447
>F.Get more influence among the Southsea Coalition - possibly moving towards federalisation and more Regional Rights
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>>47389447
>F.Get more influence among the Southsea Coalition - possibly moving towards federalisation and more Regional Rights
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>>47389447
>F.Get more influence among the Southsea Coalition - possibly moving towards federalisation and more Regional Rights
i'm not sure about F i don't want to have tea party situation but i guess all we can do is hope they'll be happier if they elect a local governor to oversee more local problems...
Also obligatory flag.
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>>47389447
F.
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>>47389447
>F.Get more influence among the Southsea Coalition - possibly moving towards federalisation and more Regional Rights
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It seems we'll be working together with the SSC, but how far are we willing to let them go?
As many as you want.
A.Less taxes and government spending
B.Regional governments with their own legislature, gradual reformation into a federation
C.Autonomous Ocras, Veita and South Eyerdar
D.End government economic monopolies(Railroads, Telegraphs, a couple of other minor ones)
E.Other ideas - be creative!
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>>47389692
>E.Other ideas - be creative!
Decentralization of administration

thinking a bit about how it can and must be administrated i'm thinking about the government giving plans periodically (like the 5 year plans) and then the local authorities must handles the issue and the agencies that aren't affiliated with the local government verify if the instruction were handled in the interest of the nation.
We could divide on multiple level kindda like modern France (Area>Region>Department>Town administration)
Where the government make decision on the scale of Areas.
Then the other institutions implement them following regulations given by the government.
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>>47389692
>A.Less taxes and government spending
>B.Regional governments with their own legislature, gradual reformation into a federation
Some noticable changes but nothing revolutionary. We're taking it slow and steady.
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>>47389725
I'll give a few exemples
law and law enforcement:
>The Gov makes the law
>The Region handle who is a judge and who is a lawyer
>The Department handle law enforcement
>The Town handle building permits for Jails,Police stations and other local infrastructure that are needed.
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>>47389787
I'll give another example:
Education
>the Gov handle standards and mandatory knowledge and diploma's tests
>The Regions handle faculties and college
>The Department handle High School and early education
>The Town handle services such has transport for students
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>>47389787
Yeah let's try this.
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>>47389692
B.
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>>47389845
The emphasis here is that while states are free to implement things under the standards that the law sets.
Meaning the region and department have no legislative power whatsoever.
Meaning the law is standardized and they get the freedom of administration we give them but they're still free to have local representatives and a good amount of executive power (that we regulate).
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Major state reforms! We've decentralized our administration.
The Capital Administration in Centerhold holds all legislative power, determined by Congressional Representatives(determined by districts based on populatioln) and Councilors(two from every Region). The Head of State - our President - can be elected for a five-year mandate through direct elections.Regions have junior and senior Councilors with four year mandates and alterating elections every two years. Elections for congressional representatives are also held the same way in their respective districts.
The Chancellor serves as head of government and is elected on a four year mandate.
The nation is divided into eight Areas - 4 in Aymsland, 2 in Eyerdar, 1 for Ocras and 1 for Veita. Each Area is assigned a Governor-General by the Chancellor.
Areas are split into Regions, which are also divided into Territories(which hold one or more congressional electoral districts).
Chain of command and balance is provided - every district and region has representatives in the central government, the two heads are directly chosen, the central government appoints Governor-Generals in each Area who then make sure the directives of the government are being followed in each Region(with its respective regional governor, locally elected, below him are various mayors).
Simple enough.

>Population:173 000 000 (78% white, 15 % chink,2%hibibi, 3% darkskin,2% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 27 600 000 Eyerdar 15 300 000 Veita 15 300 000 Ocras

>Economy:7//10
>Food stockpiles:8/10
>Food production: 8/10
>Political Stability:7/10
>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Construction
>F.Improve Military
>G.Research science
>H.Improve Navy
>I.Improve economy
>J.Regional development
>K.Diplomacy and war
>L.Government and laws
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>>47390237
Are the mobs still a problem?
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>>47390237
>C.Improve religion/culture
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>>47390237
C
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>>47390237
A explore what's left
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>>47390237
>C.Improve religion/culture
I'm here
And ready to roll
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>>47390430
I am both horrified and overjoyed
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C it is
What shall we go for?
A.Religious propaganda
B.Nationalistic propaganda
C.Major event/undertaking of some sort(sports, holidays etc.)
D.Construction of a new wonder
E.Hands-off approach
F.Other
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>>47390468
C. Let's develop a national sport, encouraging physical betterment for all.
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>>47390453
Let's hope no war breaks out, with no war no Inky rolls
Nothing can stop my rolls

>>47390468
C People love sports especially our new sport of stickball and our holiday of giftgiving day,
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>>47390468
>D.Construction of a new wonder
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>>47390468
>C.Major event/undertaking of some sort(sports, holidays etc.)
Workers day, a day celebrating the common man and his contribution to the world. Lets put a nationalist spin on it although. People can share food and stuff and have a big party with gift giving and such (celebrating the fruits of labour, it will also give us a christmas like event to get more profits out of.)
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>>47390468
C
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>>47390468
C. Make national and intercontinental sports leagues. Also make a day for fathers and mothers.
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>>47390468
C
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The Faith has had several holidays it celebrates and people in various regions also celebrate local tradiional holidays, but we've now also established several national holidays - Mother's Day, Father's Day, the Faith's largest holiday, Oofnarrag(celebrated at Winter Solstice), Worker's Day, Day of the Armed Forces(same day as Atanius' birthday).
Sports are becoming more popular and widespread - there's martial sports(We've reopened the Grand Tournament in Southport), Ball games, athletic and non-athletic disciplines. We've set rules for the establishment of sport clubs and have worked together with the KE and SA to set the grounds for international competitions.
Various inventions in recent years:vinyl discs, the first colour film, first helicopter flight, demonstration of nuclear fission of uranium.

>Population:175 000 000 (78% white, 15 % chink,2%hibibi, 3% darkskin,2% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 27 800 000 Eyerdar 15 400 000 Veita 15 400 000 Ocras

>Economy:7//10
>Food stockpiles:8/10
>Food production: 8/10
>Political Stability:8/10
>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Construction
>F.Improve Military
>G.Research science
>H.Improve Navy
>I.Improve economy
>J.Regional development
>K.Diplomacy and war
>L.Government and laws
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>>47390749
how advanced are we
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>>47390749
>F.Improve Military
Let's make some nukes
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>>47390766
Circa 1937
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>>47390749
>G.Research science
We're gonna be first on the moon.
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>>47390749
F
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>>47390749
>G.Research science
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>>47390749
>G.Research science

Our main objective should be to create a system of satellites to enable better communication. Maybe a manned station for science also.
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>>47390749
Bulgar I change my vote from>>47390818
To G since we do need science to make some rockets
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>>47390749
F
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Science time
What area shall we direct more funds towards? Science progresses naturally on its own, but we can give it an extra push.
Pick two.
A.Rocketry research
B.Nuclear research
C.Chemistry & Medicine
D.Military technology
E.Naval technoloy
F.Transportation(land,sea and air)
G.Sciences in general
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>>47390937
Not to mention we would need good computers for guidance systems / ballistic calculations.
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>>47390994
A.Rocketry research
G.Sciences in general
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>>47390994
A and G
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>>47390994
Since their no area for computers my G will be for science in computer
>A.Rocketry research
>G.Sciences in general
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>>47390994
>A.Rocketry research
>G.Sciences in general
That alien menace won't know what hit it.

>>47390997
We could always deliver them by plane.
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>>47390994
A.
F.
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Rolled 69 (1d100)

Man looks to the stars...
A & G roll for extra effect(low result won't be anything bad)
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>>47391033
True but planes are easier to intercept also is it wrong i want us to make computers really cheap far earlier than real life. Just so we can get a terrible version of the internet?

Speaking of which, how are our computers looking?
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>>47391058
>69
That a good roll
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>>47391071
It is above the average, so yes, it is a good roll.
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>>47391058
>Rolled 69 (1d100)
>Man looks to the stars...
What a perfect roll.
>>47391061
>so we can get a terrible version of the internet
A noble aspiration.
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>>47391099
>>47391061
>A terrible version of the internet
But more years for memes to advance
More time for meme magic to grow
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>>47391071
>69
Penis shaped rockets
>>47391061
>how are our computers looking?
Not even at Eniac's level but could reach it
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Further ballistic flight tests have been made as larger rockets than before are propelled, while the first jet engines for airplanes are being designed and tested - this is rocket science, so progress will take years.
Mathematicians and electrical engineers are making progress on projects of the creation of computation machines.
Astrophysics has progressed and now top government officials have been given a secret report by the National Academy of Sciences.

Our planet is in fact one of two natural satellites in orbit of a larger planet, a gas giant. We believe that life as we know it on our planet is in fact not native to it, but that millions of years ago a previous generation of life existed, which has been the source of all our fossil fuels. What these scientists believe is that humans transformed this planet into the biomes it has today at some point around 1500 years ago. Scientists do not all agree on this, but this hypothesis has been submitted to the government.
In otherr news, we've seen some economic improvements in the last two years. It is now 1191 AE.

>Population:175 000 000 (78% white, 15 % chink,2%hibibi, 3% darkskin,2% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 27 800 000 Eyerdar 15 400 000 Veita 15 400 000 Ocras

>Economy:8//10
>Food stockpiles:8/10
>Food production: 8/10
>Political Stability:8/10
>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Construction
>F.Improve Military
>G.Research science
>H.Improve Navy
>I.Improve economy
>J.Regional development
>K.Diplomacy and war
>L.Government and laws
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>>47391260
>G.Research science
we need more Intel theses theories are precious Intelligence for us to know what is our homeland.
If the second satellite is habitable we MUST GO THERE.
This is HUGE
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>>47391260
>G.Research science
Space, here we come.
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>>47391260
>G.Research science
Time to send a dog into space
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>>47391260
We need to explore these theories more
>G Science
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>>47391260
H
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>>47391260
G. Need more space and astronomy.
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>>47391260
>E.Construction

In light of this theory, and our advancing knowledge of rocketry, I suggest the construction of a large, advanced and secure institute high in the southern mountains of aymsland, near Cloudgazer.

The immediate goal of this facility is to allow us to test, research and create advanced rockets and spacecraft in a private location.

The long term goal of the facility is to find out where our people are from, why we are here and to research into our history, pre-collapse.
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>>47391260
>F
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>>47391339
We have to do a few things before:
>get metal that can transmit data into space
>get frogs into space
>get dog into space
>get monkey/darkskin into space
>get our bravest and most good looking Ace into space

But yeah let's focus on satellites to analyze space first then the gas giant with maybe an impactor or an obiter then the second moon with a lander preferably.
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>>47391397
>Yeah it's going to take a few turns and some good rolls of science to get into space.

But your list is pretty good, if nothing bad happens, then we could send a satellite into space in this thread.
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Rolled 41, 70 = 111 (2d100)

We've established the Space Exploration Program, based in Cloudgazer. The long-term goals of this Program wil be to work with the Ballistics research institutes to launch a rocket into space, animals, manned flight and eventually artificial satellites and so on.
This effort WILL take many years.
1 internal and 1 external political development incoming
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>>47391498
God dammit all, our people are some of the most fickle in the universe regarding politics!
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>>47391498
Could be better, but at least the rest of world doesn't need our help.
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>>47391480
The good thing is that it will at least let us research other thing in the pursuit of space, things like MRI, radioisotope thermoelectric generator and other nuclear tech.
If we're not the first to get the nuclear weapon we're at least assured that we're the first that can make it strike down anywhere on this planet.
>>47391498
>70
at least KE didn't get the nuclear weapon or their own space program had a crash recently.
>41
minor internal developments are better than major terrible ones, at least the south didn't fully revolt.
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Taxes and spending are both high and many people are unhappy, crime hasn't decreased by all that much either as a major black market for tobacco and opium has emerged.
On the plus side, the first international sports tournaments have been a great success for our national team! The Kaichou have also been making major scientific progress into nuclear, ballistic and computing technology, having caught on to us in theoretical fields. At large, the world is at peace.

>Population:177 000 000 (78% white, 15 % chink,2%hibibi, 3% darkskin,2% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 28 000 000 Eyerdar 15 500 000 Veita 15 500 000 Ocras

>Economy:7//10
>Food stockpiles:8/10
>Food production: 8/10
>Political Stability:7/10
>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Construction
>F.Improve Military
>G.Research science
>H.Improve Navy
>I.Improve economy
>J.Regional development
>K.Diplomacy and war
>L.Government and laws
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>>47391498
I'm going to say its the south sea territories are getting pissed
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>>47391570
L
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>>47391570
>C.Improve religion/culture
Anti-drug culture/propaganda.
>a major black market for tobacco and opium has emerged.
but I must space race, WHY.
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>>47391570
>L.Government and laws
Guess we need to fix our shit before we can go out seeking aliens to conquer.
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>>47391570
>C.Improve religion/culture

After this, we deal with the economy then more science!
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>>47391570
>C.Improve religion/culture
People getting high at the worst time, get high in space not on the ground.
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>>47391570
What's the budget like because if there's a bit too much funding for one area we can relocate money and manpower to crime fighting
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>>47391570
>L
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>>47391570
L.
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Let's combine C & L since it's all to the same goal, fighting crime
>>47391640
The general economic climate has improved, but the budget is in a deficit at present with large amounts of fund having been directed to scientific development, while tax revenue hasn't been increasing despite general economic growth.
What shall we do? Multiple choices permitted.
A.Religious propaganda
B.Cultural propaganda
C.More funds for law enforcement
D.Establish a new division of internal security services(we only have the Njordgales right now)
E.Lower taxes and spending, people would rather have money for themselves
F.Social/political reforms(further options)
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>>47391779
D
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>>47391779
B. The peoples taxes are going to space colonization.
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>>47391779
>B.Cultural propaganda
make it about space as well
>C.More funds for law enforcement
>D.Establish a new division of internal security services
All those investment will pay for themselves, a safe citizen is a productive citizen
>>47391640
>if there's a bit too much funding for one area we can relocate money and manpower to crime fighting
But muh space.
Technology is n1 concern but so is our people's sanity...
Why high INT always come with low SAN?
Welp culture.
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>>47391779
>B.Cultural propaganda
Space progaganda
>C.More funds for law enforcement
>D.Establish a new division of internal security services
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>>47391779
>D AND F
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>>47391779
C.More funds for law enforcement

D.Establish a new division of internal security services(we only have the Njordgales right now)

F.Social/political reforms(further options)
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>>47391779
C D
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>>47391827
Can't wait for Stars wars on drug V.
It's going to be the best movie ever, i wonder if the vile Imperator Nagisaka will and his spice funded mercenaries will be killed by the chivalrous Knight Atanian.
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B,C,D
A Ministry of Health and Services was established, together with the Ministry of Culture they are making Public Service Announcements and undertaking a campaign to eradicate drug abuse. Police forces have been strengthened and a new Special Department of Internal Investigation has been established. Njorgales' role has been relegate to military and foreign intelligence.

>Population:178 000 000 (78% white, 15 % chink,2%hibibi, 3% darkskin,2% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 28 100 000 Eyerdar 15 500 000 Veita 15 500 000 Ocras

>Economy:7//10
>Food stockpiles:7/10
>Food production: 7/10
>Political Stability:8/10
>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Construction
>F.Improve Military
>G.Research science
>H.Improve Navy
>I.Improve economy
>J.Regional development
>K.Diplomacy and war
>L.Government and laws
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>>47391975
G.
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>>47391975
>I.Improve economy
High employment rates mean less drugs and more moneys for research.
Let's create a high demand for jobs by creating good infrastructure.
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>>47392010
+1
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>>47392053
We could also propose a reintegration program for all cartel member and ex-drug producer and dealers.
Propose instead of jail-time and other atrocious punishment to let them use their skills for the good of our country, we always need mans with big muscle-power for our industry and chemist worker to fabricate medicine or other products, we also need administrators and salesmen for our country, i propose to give no jail-time if they accept to work in government industries at a low pay job at first but with possibilities to get higher in hierarchy.
I'm sure that they can also provide us some info to avoid getting jailed as well if we give them a job and a new chance at life.
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Economic improvement is needed.
A.Reduce spending wherever possible(sciences excluded) so we can lower taxes, get our budget in control ,let the market take its course
B.Reduce spending and taxes, private assets - we've laid the groundworks, capitalism can now flourish without the government holding its hand!
C.Invest in infrastructrural development
D.Invest in urban development & industry
E.Invest in rural development
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>>47392199
A.Reduce spending wherever possible(sciences excluded) so we can lower taxes, get our budget in control ,let the market take its course

I assume B is letting our monopolies slip, releasing government owned companies and such. If so i am against it.
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>>47392199
>this >>47392193
and also
>C.Invest in infrastructural development
because we never have enough infrastructure
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>>47392199
C.
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>>47392199
A
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>>47392199
C>>47392193
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>>47392199
>C.Invest in infrastructrural development
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>>47392199
>A
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Rolled 45 (1d100)

Better roads, railways, ports, urban infrastructure will be provided as the government will focus on that area.
General economic development roll
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>>47392317
>45
we must still construct additional pylons
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>>47392317
God damn it all.

Okay, after this we are going to preform a round of cost-cutting on the armed forces.
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Progress has been neither too great nor too bad. We're registering a good amount of economic growth, the budget will be balanced by the end of 1194 AE.
>Population:178 000 000 (78% white, 15 % chink,2%hibibi, 3% darkskin,2% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 28 100 000 Eyerdar 15 500 000 Veita 15 500 000 Ocras

>Economy:7//10
>Food stockpiles:7/10
>Food production: 7/10
>Political Stability:8/10
>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Construction
>F.Improve Military
>G.Research science
>H.Improve Navy
>I.Improve economy
>J.Regional development
>K.Diplomacy and war
>L.Government and laws
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>>47392382
>G.Research science
more consumer science research will bring us money.
>>47392354
>cost-cutting on the armed forces
>It's been three fucking day since we last received an MRE
>the gov told us the we're going to have to use our alcohol as Molotov because we don't have grenades anymore
>it's cold out here yet the gov didn't even send us blankets
NEVER CUT MILITARY SPENDING
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>>47392382
I. Our space program is government funded which is using taxes from the people. If we work with the free markets and have a company do the research and testing then the people won't have to feel the burden of taxation as much.
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>>47392382
F
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>>47392382
>G.Research science

>>47392400
When i say cost-cutting, I mean getting rid of out-dated stuff and that we should stop funding projects which won't seemingly bare fruit any time soon or are turning into the F-35 in terms of cost to gain ratio.
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>>47392382
>G
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>>47392423
>implying private industry can into research
>implying they won't make us pay more than it cost to research it ourselves
>implying the won't leak everything to foreign countries
>implying if we roll under 50 there's not at least 10000 ways this can doom us
NO Galenus we can't fix it with free market, innovation must come before it's profitable and this is why we're here, to bring innovation to a point where it's profitable to research it then private industry join the fun but we keep our edge over them because we're the pioneers.
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Science again.
Pick one - the budget is limited.
A.Physics
B.Chemistry
C.Mechanization
D.Military
E.Navy
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>>47392521
>C.Mechanization
it will bring more money, then we can resume the space/computer race with renewed power.
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>>47392521
A.
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>>47392521
C.Mechanization

This will allow us to improve the economy, I hope
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>>47392521
C
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Improvements in various practical industrial technologies are spreading. Bulk material handling, assembly lines, better construction technology, feedback control, mechanized agriculture. Skyscrapers rise in the larger cities as cars cross highways, trains run faster than ever, commercial airplane traffic has become viable.
The previous investments in infrastructure have proved useful as rural regions also move towards industrialization. Wages in general are rising.

>Population:178 000 000 (78% white, 15 % chink,2%hibibi, 3% darkskin,2% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 28 100 000 Eyerdar 15 500 000 Veita 15 500 000 Ocras

>Economy:8//10
>Food stockpiles:7/10
>Food production: 8/10
>Political Stability:8/10
>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Construction
>F.Improve Military
>G.Research science
>H.Improve Navy
>I.Improve economy
>J.Regional development
>K.Diplomacy and war
>L.Government and laws
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>>47392771
>G.Research science
it's effective, let's hope it was enough to increase our research budget
>>
>>47392771
>G.Research science
>>
>>47392771
G.
>>
Science again.
Pick one - the budget is limited.
A.Physics
B.Chemistry
C.Navy
D.Military
>>
>>47392957
>B.Chemistry
guess we're going to have to do economy next
>>
>>47392957
>>47392980
I'm with obelix on this chemistry
>>
>>47392957
A
>>
>>47392957
>B.Chemistry
After this is the economy
>>
A proper chemical industry is beginning to develop, using the latest science to produce synthetic textiles, fertilizers, pharmaceuticals. Work on nuclear chemistry has also been progressing well. The medical fields have progressed with the spread of antibiotics, while the improved petroleum industry allows the production of better fuels for both automobiles and jet engines.


>Population:179 000 000 (78% white, 15 % chink,2%hibibi, 3% darkskin,2% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 28 200 000 Eyerdar 15 600 000 Veita 15 600 000 Ocras

>Economy:8//10
>Food stockpiles:8/10
>Food production: 8/10
>Political Stability:8/10
>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Construction
>F.Improve Military
>G.Research science
>H.Improve Navy
>I.Improve economy
>J.Regional development
>K.Diplomacy and war
>L.Government and laws
>>
>>47393229
>I.Improve economy
let's invest more in our Industry
>>
>>47393229
>I.Improve economy
Let's find ways to increase our industry so we can have more money to improve science
>>
>>47393229
I.
>>
>>47393229
I
>>
>>47393229
improve economy
>>
I
A.A freer market - lower taxes and excess spending, give incentives for private enterprise that would be more efficient than state efforts
B.Spend tax money on improving manufacturing
C.Improve rural regions, agriculture and resources
D.Focus on finances - improve banking, balance the budget etc.
E.Other
>>
>>47393346
D
>>
>>47393346
>B.Spend tax money on improving manufacturing
Invest in the states factories, multiply the state's income.
>>
>>47393346
D
>>
>>47393346
>C
>>
>>47393346
B.Spend tax money on improving manufacturing
D.Focus on finances - improve banking, balance the budget etc.
>>
>>47393346
D.Focus on finances - improve banking, balance the budget etc.
>>
>>47393346
D.
>>
We've expanded the National Bank's operations. New gold deposits in Ocras have helped establish the gold standard. We've also established firm international monetary relations, establishing official exchange rates between the three nations. The Camark has also been accepted as the currency for our client states as well. The budget has been balanced, the economy is progressing.

>Population:180 000 000 (78% white, 15 % chink,2%hibibi, 3% darkskin,2% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 28 400 000 Eyerdar 15 600 000 Veita 15 600 000 Ocras

>Economy:9//10
>Food stockpiles:8/10
>Food production: 8/10
>Political Stability:8/10
>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Construction
>F.Improve Military
>G.Research science
>H.Improve Navy
>I.Improve economy
>J.Regional development
>K.Diplomacy and war
>L.Government and laws
>>
>>47393616
G.
>>
>>47393616
>G.Research science

Science? Science!
>>
>>47393616
>G.Research science
In comes the money, out comes the technology.
>>
Jesus Christ,all these options yet its always fugen science
Pick two areas to invest into
A.Nuclear research
B.Rocket science
C.Experimental military technology
D.Naval technology
E.Vehicles and transport
F.Electrical engineering
G.Various sciences
H.Other
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>>47393665
rocket and various
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>>47393665
C AND D
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>>47393665
>A.Nuclear research
>F.Electrical engineering
>it's always science
Science is useful, we should probably try to vassalize the chinks as well.
Mandatory research into computing technologies and nuclear energy.
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>>47393665
G.Various sciences
B.Rocket science
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>>47393665
B.
F.
I'm just focused on a manifest destiny across the stars. I don't care if we have colonies on the moon by 1950.
>>
>>47393683
>>47393707
guys if we send a satellite now, it will literally have no power except battery, we need solar panels or radioisotopes thermoelectric generator, otherwise we're going to have a satellite with a shitty lifetime that won't be able to even house the shittiest of computer to send data back.
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>>47393764
its important to be able to get into space before we try and put the satellite in orbit
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>>47393832
rockets won't get you more money to research electric science and nuclear technology but the opposite can happen.
>>
>>47393865
fair enough
bulgar I'm switching rocket to vehicles and transport
>>
>>47393665
>A.Nuclear research
>F.Electrical engineering
>>
>>47393911
>propose centurion to research nuclear and electricity before rockets
>"fair enough I'm switching rocket to vehicles and transport"
U wot M8?
What's the logic behind this?
>>
>>47393953
you said that rocket tech wouldn't be a good investment for research right now because we wouldn't get a god ROI to continue so I'm switching to something which likely will
>>
>>47394001
I thought Electric engineering would get a more interesting tech along with a good ROI if we get a UNIVAC tier computer, we could sell those and nuclear tech will surely be interesting because it would allow us to reduce the size of our army and generally be an interesting tech for space as well.
If you want only dosh i'm sure transport can do it for you as well i suppose but it's not a compromise between ROI and actual needed tech for space.
but the choice is entirely up to you and always was.
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>>47394064
I wanted to make sure we have money to continue so if we get into economic troubles we don't have to cut the science budget while fulfilling our governing responsibilities
>>
Did bulgar die?
>>
>>47394648
That or he fell suddenly asleep out of pure rage because he lost a post he only wrote on the reply instead of writing it in a txt file.
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>>47394674
Or we didn't reach a agreement on what to science on
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>>47394674
probably fell asleep
>>
>>47394685
>2 A
>2 B
>1 C
>1 D
>1 E
>3 F
>2 G
Welp quadruple tie
>>
Rolled 3 (1d3)

>>47394721
i'll just roll a dice between A B and G if everyone is just 100% sure of their beliefs.
>a is 1
>b is 2
>g is 3
>>
>>47394937
So let's go with F and G since the roll called it. Everyone agrees?
>>
I'm ok with it
>>
>>47394965
yes
>>
Bulgar you there? Orginnization got your tongue?
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>>47395571
I think he's asleep by now
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>>47395571
RIP rest in pepperoni bulgar , you will not be forgetti.
Nevar forget 23/5 the day bulgar got abducted by jooz or natural obligation
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>>47395593
Oh come on I scheduled my entire day on this quest!
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>>47395571
RIP rest in pepperoni bulgar, you died so young.
Never forget Trump got back up from the NRA, may you MAGA from the grave.
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