How comes 40k is popular with anyone aside from nihilist teenagers?
>>47351596
Because it mocks and parodies edginess and nihilism often found in those teenagers.
>>47351596
>Implying /tg/ isn't 95% nihilist teeanagers disguising their thinly veiled fanfictions as stories that "actually happened" in someone's "game".
>>47351596
I like some of the ideas it has. I don't like it as a whole. I definitely don't like people screaming "FURR THE EMPERHURR" whenever something 40K related shows up in other stuff.
>>47351629
Poe's law. Saying it's a parody might be giving it too much credit
Because 40k has become so shitty and hated that it has become hipstercool to like it unironically.
Plus idiots.
>>47351596
Same reason as D&D
>>47351596
>with anyone aside from nihilist teenagers?
So everyone likes it except for nihilist teenagers?
>>47351596
Because it's fun.
Used to be more fun but it is still fairly fun.
>>47351596
Well, for one thing it's been around long enough for a lot of them to become edgy adults instead, who can actually afford it themselves.
I like the concept of a species that has inherited a technology from their ancestor so advance that's beyond their understanding.
>>47351596
>nihilist teenagers
lol its 2016 you wretched old piece of shit
I find that 40k is very much like me: intelligent, nihilistic and with a wicked sense of humour.
>>47352775
>pretentious, nihilistic, and less funny than a dead meme
Fixed that for you.
>>47352775
This guy. This guy is a reasonable human being who has his shit together. I tip my fedora to you sir. Good day.
It's quite funny and has weird, guilty-pleasure tier aesthetics.
I can't understand why anyone else than nihilist teenagers would be able to take it deadly serious and still like it
>>47351876
No hipster I know likes 40k. And I fucking live in Seattle.
>>47351999
You mean like every iPhone user?
>>47351596
Because it is.
All the justification you need and all you deserve.
>>47351596
Judge Dredd + Dune + Mad Max
It's a pretty fun concept.
Despite being fairly generic for British Sci-Fi, it's fairly unusual for American Sci-Fi which makes it feel fresh and fun over here.
Yeah, I've discovered over the years that there are a few too many /pol/-idiots who like the setting because they have no sense of irony and see it as the fantasy version of their views, but that doesn't make it stop being fun for me.
Also, the models are fun to put together.
>>47351596
But anon, I'm a faithful Anglican!
>>47351644
it originally started as a parody then slowly became the thing it made fun of over the years.
>>47354405
This. It's just a really cool, original setting with a fuckton of content and depth.
>>47354405
>Judge Dredd + Dune + Mad Max
Yep. There's really no other setting like it.
>>47354528
>cool
>original
>depth
>>47351596
Not everyone likes chaos anon.
>>47351596
Because there is a rich vein of absurdity and dark humor that runs through a lot of it that people overlook.
Also as science fiction in general has adopted cleaner, sleeker, aesthetics to reflect modern industrial design the pseudo-gothic clusterfuck which is the 40k aesthetic has only become more bold and distinctive by contrast.
Because it's fun. No deeper meaning. I like big epic fights, both in scale of massive battles, and titanic entities or personalities colliding, and 40k has that in spades.
Like with all settings that have accumulated content for decades, it got material that canplease anybody. Even the same character can be handled in a completely different manner depending on the author.
>>47354528
>depth
I wouldn't go that far.
But it's still pretty cool.
>>47351596
I like the scale of it. The timescale, the scale of the wars, the scale of the god and the vast numbers involved.
You can have titanic crusades and monumental battles...then 2 sectors away they aren't even aware of that going on bar a few officials keeping in touch and the astropaths going "here about that shit in grimcdarkus sector?"
The Emperor alone is a huge reason for my interest, an ancient man from the dawn of time guiding his species and failing like any other man can fail, and then trying to make do and enduring pain beyond description every moment to keep his species alive.
There is so much going on in 40k and it isn't perfect (thanks Horus Heresy for making the Emperor seem like a moron) but as settings go it is one of my absolute favourites.
Plus I am British so it "clicks" with me, its dare I say it comfortable.
>>47351637
>"FURR THE EMPERHURR!!!
I know a guy who yells" blood for the blood God, skulls for the skull throne" when ever we play d&d or card games.
It's makes me cinge every time
>>47351596
It's a sandbox built on the bones of a thousand better settings. The original creators were really proud of the fact that they took just about everything relevant to British culture in the 80s and mushed it all together.
Just because it's grown corrupted and introverted, doesn't mean that isn't still there.
>>47351596
I think because the ridiculous amount of lore thats been put into it over the years it essentially just touches on everything. It has army men, knights, mecha, demons, magic, cults, sci-fi, fantasy, etc. I constantly couldn't keep my attention on one genre at a time and left tons of projects unfinished, but 40k allows me to make diffrent aspects of my campaigns entirely diffrent genres. I can transition from Dead Space to Apocalypse Now to D&D to Star Trek to Mad Max to Conan and it all makes since because of decades of lore amd fluff to work with. Also, even though some people give it a grimdark 90s edgelord asthetic in their head, I always see it as campy 80s cult film in mine. It becomes what it needs to for other people. For the rpgs at least.
Because it's 40k anon. If you can't understand that, you don't get it. 40k is pure cocaine.
>>47355391
This is now a 40k art thread.
>>47355422
>>47355539
>>47355570
>>47355595
>>47355677
>>47351596
Why is Star Wars popular with anybody?
>>47355706
>>47355721
Pre-Disney Wars I can easily understand.
Post-Disney Wars, no idea.
>>47355729
>>47355764
>>47355764
No one in the real world has a steady enough hand to make the Punisher's paint scheme work, but they look pretty cool in that pic.
>>47351596
because nihilistic teens are edgy sperglords who are only like that because they're trying to show off their special snowflake status in a way that lashes out against normal society.
even though 40k is theoretically the perfect universe for them, it's enjoyed by masses of relatively normal people compared to them, so they don't want to be associated with it because it's too mainstream
>>47355764
that architecture is impossible even for 40k.
>>47355706
As a Dark Angels fan, this always annoyed me. Sure, the Grey Knights just know the Dark Angels secret, and now they can totally blackmail the whole chapter.
It's like somebody took Azrael's and Draigo's miniatures and went "now kiss~!" You couldn't have made up a better 'friend' for either faction?
Thread needs more Sororitas.
>>47356586
>>47357240
Nice to see a Khornate with a ranged weapon now and then.
>>47351596
Because it's fun. I think it has gotten so serious and stupidly grimdark that it has come full circle into parody territory. And I love it. And it has the same charm as comic books where everyone is exactly as powerful as the plot requires them to be, and their actual skills abilities don't matter for dick to the writers.
but it isn't nihilistic, it's idealistic to the extreme where humanity comes together as one big collective for the good of the species
Like gravel mashed into cheddar, it's the grittiest cheese.
>>47351596
>How comes 40k is popular
>just learned new word
Protip: The number of things stupid people don't 'get' is literally infinite - and there's nothing wrong with that. What's 'wrong' is, constantly asking your stupid questions when you must know by now that you're too stupid to understand the answers. Now, kindly fuck off back to your Campus Safe Space with a pint of Rocky Road and never post here again.
>>47351596
>That Image
All female Slaaneshi warband... Sisters of Silence.
>pic related
>>47357288
First, Khorne dubs.
Second, imagine a Khornate Sniper. They'd mutter "Blood for the Blood God." before popping someone's skull like an overripe melon.
>>47352307
t h i s
>>47359399
How can they get corrupted if they're blanks? Warp won't affect them.
>>47359445
He'd definitely use hollow rounds or whatever you call them.
>>47360235
Dumb-Dumbs, as they're called on the street.
>>47360042
Shit, you're right. Sisters of Silence are already a thing. They could be stealing their name a joke or mock.
>>47360286
Are you calling me a dumb dumb, anon? I'm sorry I'm not /k/.
>>47357240
>>47359445
I think I've actually seen a quote from a traitor guardsmen aligned to Khorne who used a sniper. After marking his target he'd utter 'Khorne guide my shot' or something like that.
>>47355282
>Swiggity swooty, I'm coming for that choppa
>>47355764
Possible titles, "I heard there was Chaos over here! I came as quick as I could." or "Oh no! Oh no! Oh, no. OH YEEAAHH!"
>>47361467
That's pretty boss.
>tfw no all-heretic BC group
>>47351637
Why do you think /tg/ got created in the first place? It was a containment board.
>>47354405
>Yeah, I've discovered over the years that there are a few too many Americans who like the setting because they have no sense of irony and see it as the fantasy version of their views, but that doesn't make it stop being fun for me.
>>47351596
>stop liking what I don't like!
>>47356953
>Thread needs more Sororitas.
YES!
>>47359399
>All female Slaaneshi warband...
YES!!!
>>47351596
Some people never outgrow the nihilist teenager phase.
>>47351596
Because BIG STOMPY LASER BEAM BANGSPLOSION CHAINSAW-FUCKING-AXE!
>>47363132
>Some people never outgrow the nihilist teenager phase.
Just because people enjoy things you don't enjoy doesn't make them a nihilist or a teenager.
I really like building and painting models as well as reading stories of desperate struggles against impossible odds while absurdist levels of bureaucracy deny the heroes any sort of aid.
>>47351596
Because the long period of rise/fall/rise, complex bureaucracy, power without control, and warp/chaos mechanics are tropes stereotypically absent from most scifi.
Because it's fun.
>>47360519
OMNOMNOM
>>47351596
I literally only like it for the Imperial Guard, and even that I only like the version presented in shit like Gaunt's Ghosts where it's not entirely grimdark and edge.
>>47360042
Sisters of battle aren't blanks, you're thinking of the sisters of silence anon
>>47351596
Because that's the narrative the liberal faggots dogpiling this hobby are using to attack one of its biggest and most beloved IPs, because it doesn't line up with their political views. This happens every time feminists come into something and the actual fanbase starts fighting back, like when they tried to get metal called "neckbeard music," for example.
>>47363605
He said Sisters of Silence though.
>>47355595
>>47355646
>>47355677
>>47355764
How I'd love to see a movie set in the 40k universe, even though I know it would cost a trillion dollars to make and would probably only bring in 25 cents.
Imagine this scene >>47355646 on the big screen...
>>47356812
At this point, so what if the secret gets out. The horus heresy was 10000 years ago, penance crusades have lasted a fraction of that length for the same offense.
It's all of the settings, ripped off at the same time, painted black, with extra skulls glued on.
>>47351596
Specifically to make you upset.
>>47355646
>that one guy rocking atop a titan
I love 40k because of shit like that.
>40k is a written Micheal bay movie that doesn't take itself seriously swimming in so much lore I'm not even sure I'll ever have read it all.
>>47354752
Wouldnt have epicness in spades cheapen it?
Like the stakes of every battle in 40k are planet wide or sector wide. This somehow doesn't make them seem more important than like...A battle for a small barony in england in other settings. But they really dont have much more room to scale up from aside from tossing more words like "supra-sector wide". They sorta are spent out in raising stakes.
>>47351596
Because it's a satire of nihilism.
>>47363336
>>47351596
Wait, 40k IS popular?
>>47371072
Haha, not really.
Between the price hikes of miniatures driving off long-time players, and the writers taking this shit way too seriously driving away newcomers, 40K is slowly but surely dying.
>>47370796
>>47371123
40k isn't dying. It's more like all of GW's other projects fell through the floor and the only thing left is 40k. With a new DOW on the way we'll see a massive explosion in the player base size anyway.
>>47371123
Speaking as someone who's been playing since 2nd edition, bear in mind that we've been saying those exact words for well over a decade, yet they haven't even changed their business model.
>>47356953
Roger.
Uploading "Sisters of Battle for nihilist teenagers".
>>47372221
<3
>>47372906
YES!
>>47357240
I feel like an automatic weapon such as a heavy bolter would be very viscerally satisfying to a Khorne worshipper. Especially since heavy bolters make their targets explode into fountains of gore.
It's just that Khornate close-combat troops get all the attention.
>>47367097
I know, but the fact that the Grey Knights - another super secret faction - knows this and is using it exclusively to grab them by the balls just irritates me.
>>47372446
Why do I even like Sisters of Battle anymore?
Sure, I enjoy the design, the place in the lore, and all the cute and sometimes lewd art that comes from them, but they're a rump faction now, if not a dead one. There's nothing I can't get from them I can't get elsewhere. Imperial Guard can be fanatical, Space Marines have power armor and bolters.
>>47373118
But no one else gets Miracles™.
Don't you enjoy positive warp-influence?
>>47373241
>Don't you enjoy positive warp-influence?
I know I do!
I think 40k is at it's best when it doesn't take itself too serious. Orks are great. Space marines riding wolves are fun.
One of my friends tried to a run a grimdark Dark Heresy game but it just didn't work with my our group. I guess it takes a bigger man than me to keep roleplaying a nazi space nun seriously.
>>47373241
That makes it a little worse, honestly. I'm annoyed that all faith in 40k seems to be just worship of some Warp power. I'd enjoy it more if enough sisters were low-level pyskers that their faith focused their powers into miracles, like how the Grey Knights are all pyskers that can use their powers squad by squad. At least then the faith itself would have meaning, instead of the Chaos God-Emperor sending in his Legion of the Damned daemons to kick shit in (instead of them being marines dying from a warp disease surviving by sheer willpower alone).
>>47373457
>I'd enjoy it more if enough sisters were low-level pyskers that their faith focused their powers into miracles
That's exactly how it works, since all humans except blanks have low level of psychic activity.
IMO you got it backwards; warp power stems from faith and emotions. It's not the warp entity that creates the worship, it's the worship that creates the warp entity.Like how they managed to create Nuffle from nothing in the Blood Bowl universe.
>>47373118
They Watch the Watchmen, which is pretty cool. I wish that would come back in the fluff in a big way.
Also, their gear looks really cool, and the fact that they're an all-lady faction who have "fucking scary" as a trait is pretty refreshing, desu.
>>47355764
I'm surprised no one has noted the one traitor marine who's reloading. It looks like he's has a sig in his mouth grill.
>>47374001
>I'm surprised no one has noted the one traitor marine who's reloading. It looks like he's has a sig in his mouth grill.
Actually, he's not reloading, and that's not a cig in his mouth; It's the pin to that GRENADE.
![d0184c3ee387de7d5c5f824ae20d0917[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/BdTwQUR.jpg "d0184c3ee387de7d5c5f824ae20d0917[1].jpg")
>>47373965
And they're based on Joan of Arc, which is a pretty cool model.
>>47374031
>Mutate and you'll get literal mouth grills to pull your grenade's pins.
Good enough of a reason to join Chaos, I guess.
>>47351596
because people genuinely believe that the future depicted in this setting is good, that humanity will one day rule everything ever and that we are the most superior or even only extant beings in the universe and we are so obserdly overpowered that we will murder eat rape and genocide anything that gets in our way.
Basically yes there are probably edgy teenagers who like 40k because they have at least a brain stem to rub together in order to realize the world in 40k is 100% shit in all ways, but most people who like 40k literally are kryptofascists who think genocide is literally a great idea.
40k is the HFY crowd. I bet most of them only eat tendies too, but HFY without 40k is actually stupidly common. Before 40kid autists got ahold of the idea it was called anthropocentrism.
>>47351636
Well you're just a ray of sunshine
>>47373326
>>47373118
I don't know about actual gameplay because i've never seen anyone who plays SoB, but you can't really get the feel they give anywhere else. Its like someone cloned Joan of Arc and made an army of her.
>>47355764
>HEARD YOU WERE TALKIN SHIT ABOUT THE EMPS LIKE WE WOULDN'T HEAR
>>47355662
post more templars
>>47351596
There is something for everyone in 40k pretty much. I mainly just like imperial guard and orks though. I mainly just like the stories that spring from imperial guardsmen giving everything and being a shining light of human defiance in order to survive even another day fighting an already lost fight. Its just really cool like that and its a setting that really owns its own outragousness really well.
>>47355764
Read the book people, Dark Hunters: Umbra Sumus by Paul Kearney. It is fantastic, everything a novel about an unknown chapter should be.
I always do some shilling about i when I can since poor Paul got buttfucked by naming rights and the book never got published. You can find it on torrents though, so GO READ IT
>>47372446
>space marine undies
>skull hair ties
>this much cute in one picture
I gotta say the artists on 4chan are why I keep coming back here
>>47373965
this, I just wish they wore actual armour instead of the boob plates. shit like that doesn't offend me it just sets me off on a practical level. Women wear the same armour men do. smaller and fit for them sure but the same designs.
>>47374648
>>47354459
>it originally started as a parody
no it fucking wasn't
It was made as a pastiche of things that dirty british metalheads liked in the late 70's and early-mid 80's. There is parody WITHIN it, but the setting itself was started as a celebration of over the top nerd shit.
>>47374865
I don't really mind the boobplate, considering the rest of their armor looks great and protective, and from an in-universe perspective there's probably a good reason to emphasize their femininity, in a 'hey we're not MEN-at-arms' sense.
I think I'd feel more the way you do if they were all dressed like wyches, or the sort of fantasy cheescake where most of their skin is showing, but they seem to be fully covered by armor or robes.
>>47360286
Hollowpoint rounds haven't been called dum-dums since like, the 1800s.
>>47373326
Stop shitting up this thread with shitty pictures.
>>47374865
Practicality is not the concern of the Ecclesiarchy.
>>47375579
>>47375671
Oh come on the Penitent Engine is rad shit and you know it.
>>47375683
>>47375717
>>47375579
No.
>>47375739
>>47375688
Oh yes. Its absolutely is rad and I love it. But it is not at all a practical application of a devastating combat walker. The absurdity is part of why it's awesome
>>47375786
Fuck off ND. Nobody wants your shitty maymay pics or your shitposting. You are the worst type of 40k fan, if you could even be called a 40k fan considering you're rather the blight upon the fandom and one of the negative aspects of DOW.
>>47375823
>>47375823
>one of the negative aspects of DOW.
Fucker, do you think I got into this because of Dawn of War?!
>>47375858
Along with all the other kids endlessly shitposting memes who know fuck-all about 40k.
>>47376355
Then you are MISTAKEN!
>>47376800
Congratufuckinglations then, you're cancer before the main blight arrived on the franchise.
Now fuckoff with your shitty fan fiction while we cross our fingers that the combined hatred /tg/ has for you manages to cause some variety of ailment. If /pol/ can crash a plane with no survivors than we should at least be capable of giving somebody the flu.
>>47373069
the grey knights were formed around the time of the Horus Heresy by Malcador, he took people he thought worthy from every location he could, its possible he may have had a former follower of Luther who decided to serve as penance.
>>47374865
Boob plate I'm kinda mixed on. Have you seen those plastic conversions form Dreamforge some people do? They're nice, vaguely feminine power armor suits that have tabards and shit, but have pretty normal looking chest plates.
On the one hand, I like the "No Men under arms" thing and the idea that the Sisters heavily emphasize that, and I won't deny that some artists can make boob plate look cool and less like something purely for jerking off to. Other hand, there's also a lot of skull-nipple armor bras around too.
>>47365810
they made a straight to dvd cg movie called ultramarine or something. It was meh.
Because I don't fucking take it seriously? It's a crazy mess of a setting that I've grown fond of.
>>47377282
It's still a stupid excuse for forcing a friendship. Grey Knights could've gone well with Sororitas, Dark Angels could've had tsundere relations with Space Wolves.
It's so campy and ridiculous and edgy that it wraps back around to being awesome.
>>47377696
Can't psykers self-destruct on demand? That nigga knows what's coming, why not get it over with before they torture him?
>>47380318
Khorne probably dulls pyschic powers, because exploding without rippling your muscles hard enough to do so is cheating in his book.
>>47355729
Makes me miss Argel Tal, dude was the only cool Word Bearer
>>47357240
Isn't this that WE friend of Khayon from the Talon of Horus?
>>47351637
I pray to Rogal Dorn all the time. Whenever I want to stop my workout, I pray to him for strength and guidance in my time of weakness.
When I want to stop my morning swim, I cast my thoughts to his glory, and put even more effort in.
Through great effort, we can transform ourselves into something better. I will never be as glorious as the post-human astartes, but I can and will be at my peak physical condition to best serve the Emperor of Mankind, however that may be.
I enjoy it because it's just so fucking big and full of itself, it's this massive entity that just has so much to offer. Somedays, I like joking around with how silly everything is, so I pull out my Orks and make it rain dice. Others, I want to watch my opponent get frustrated at my soldiers refusing to die, so I pull out Necrons.
As a technician who works with computers everyday, I appreciate the AdMech thinking people don't deserve technology when they see how the world treats it. As a big 'Humanity, Fuck yeah" enthusiast, I dig the 'rage against the dying of the light' that the Imperium stands for, and the refusal to bow to forces that embody the most evil of acts.
I love watching a dying species of space elves talk about how much they fucked up, but still fighting for one more day, and encompassing everything from court jesters to Egyptians to samurai. I like the little blue cowmen who think they have even an inkling of an idea of how the world works as they ride around in enormous mecha suits and make space-stalin blush with their communism.
I like genetically engineered soldiers who exist only to fight for their race, knowing full well their very existence is designed around, and built for war.
I like psychics who are a bigger threat to the galaxy than the planet-size spaceships they ride around it.
I LOVE that there's a space hell, created from humans rather than just another boring warpspace that's blue and makeshipgofastvrooooom
I just love everything the universe has to offer, all the literature, all the images, all the models. The community that debates what anything means, or if something even exists anymore, the self-awareness of it's enthusiasts that discuss pointless things for hours just to throw around thought experiments.
I don't love warhammer 40k.
I ADORE the warhammer 40k experience.
>>47381130
Same man, I can't fucking stand the Word Bearers and want them to eat shit and die, and not just because I'm a DAfag. Argel Tal was their only redeeming character, fuck I'd play them if he was still alive leading them in 40k.
; _ ;
>>47381181
Yes that's Leor or however it's spelt.
I like NiceDaemonette but he has a lot of issues.
Did someone say, NIHILISM?
>>47382997
Not Obsidian Glaives, opinion discarded. Seriously, the name does not give justice to how many edges there are.
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Obsidian_Glaives
>>47382900
>>47355737
Get out, you mouth-breathing autistic fuck
>>47381705
mien nigga
>>47383832
Your post applies only to yourself.
>>47351644
It IS a parody of warhammer fantasy. Took elements from dredd, dune and popculture of the time. Nowadays it takes itself way too serious.
