>DM permanently gimps my character over something I said over game chat
>calmly leave the table
>everything thinks im being a jerk
Who was in the wrong here?
Everyone.
gimped in what capacity?
What did you say over chat?
Well what did you say?
What did you say in the chat?
How did he "gimp " you and what did you say?
>>47325950
On one hand, permanent gimps are often overly harsh punishments given for flimsy/unexpected reasons, on the other it sounds like you did something stupid and are dealing with the consequences in an immature way.
Needs more context to make any judgements based on anything but speculation.
>>47325950
CONTEXT
...and also sauce
>>47325969
>>47325975
Talking about vaporwave on FB chat w/ another player.
Stat loss. I know I'm not getting those number back since he's that sort of DM.
>>47326036
So... your DM nuked you're characters stats because you talked about music on FaceBook. Yeah... he's a douche.
>>47326036
You have bad tastes maybe, but that DM doesn't seem very fun to play with if he is going to punish you in game for your bad tastes
>>47326036
DM is a cunt for gimping you in game for talking about shitty meme music.
It happened to me too. Context : A while ago there was a running joke in the French speaking roleplaying scene based on a youtube video.
It was a comedy where a guy played a lvl 1 rogue with his friends who played lvl 54 and 67 paladin and wizard. During the night, he trolls them by raping the paladin asshole.
So we were playing a random campaign and our characters settle for the night. We agree to have people in guard duty, rotating over the course of the night. I just say a line from the video as a joke, the DM tells everyone that I assrape someone.
I just lost all investment in my character and in the game at this point.
>>47326036
Were you in-game when it happened?
>>47326036
You'd better have been listening to good vaporwave, and not that meme trash that's popular with the 'A E S T H E T I C' crowd
>>47326102
>good vaporwave, and not that meme trash that's popular with the 'A E S T H E T I C' crowd
>>47326102
What's the difference?
>>47326088
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhxLyMDuGr8
>>47326036
>being punished in character for something you do out of character
>>47326036
Sounds like your dm isn't the kind of person who can handle being in a position of authority responsibly. Personal attacks through the game are ridiculous. Bail.
>>47326115
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQz4GIOB8gg&index=73
I don't like much vaporwave but this is good.
>>47326015
>dealing with the consequences in an immature way.
How is just walking away being immature?
>>47325950
I too was just downloading porn pics from this cosplay thread on /s/.
>>47326232
I saw it as a "taking my ball and going home" response but now that OP has given context I probably would have just left too if I were in his shoes.
>>47326136
One's only popular because it appeals to the irony or post-irony of a bunch of normies
The other is actually pretty decent techno music.
>>47326326
Define 'good' vaporwave.
>>47326393
Vektroid and Blank Banshee are good places to start but if you don't like electronica you won't like vaporwave plain and simple.
>>47325950
The DM. If you are going to be a DM you have to remain neutral when it comes to the game. The only reason to single out an individual player would be for story purposes,
This story is too stupid to believe.
I mean, we all know shitty DMs, so I could buy that part. What I can't buy is literally everyone agreeing with him.
>>47326565
It is not uncommon for DMs to develop god complexes and other players that feel they benefit fro playing in to the DMs complex to support them even when they know it is wrong. It kinda goes along with the "at least its not me" and the "if is support him it will be me" attitude.
![6OujN1H[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/J387KLo.jpg "6OujN1H[1].jpg")
>>47326036
Don't mind your plebeian DM, not only he is that guy, but also have shit taste.
You deserve it for disrupting the game with your off-topic bullshit.
>>47325950
Answer unclear, OP may be faggot.
>>47326036
Sounds like OP might be a faggot, but OP's DM is definitely a colossal turbo faggot. OP is tentatively in the right for walking away.
>>47326036
Were you talking to this guy mid game? As a GM I would find that rude not focusing on my game.
>>47326102
Legit question, what is an example of good vaporwave?
Unless you were being disruptive (as judged by other players and the GM, not you), your GM is in the wrong and a colossal asshole. If you were, you and your GM are both assholes, and you're both wrong.
>>47326565
I know shitty people so I can easily believe the shitty DM part. As for the other people, it's likely since they weren't the ones to get screwed by the DM they didn't particularly care, but the player leaving the table would get in the way of their fun, especially if he was a central element of the party, so I can believe they would blame him and not the DM.
>>47325950
That's a really good cosplay.
>>>47326160 Bail.
They already did.
Read the OP, douche.
>>47326078
>lvl 54 and 67 paladin and wizard
What?
>>47326078
>You went full Boba Fett
Never go full Boba Fett
>>47327965
Yeah,in the video context they kept the same characters for at least 5-10 years of at least one seesion per week,so it adds up
>>47326843
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKGtCkM23AI
>>47325950
Gutts
>>47328139
can you post the video for us.
>>47325950
The simple fact that you chose to walk away rather than bitch or argue automatically makes you atleast sort of right, atleast.
>>47328208 Sounds like it's in French though.
>>47326230
This sounds like the background music for b-grade anime from the 70s-80s.
>>47328159
That's not half bad, thanks Anon
>>47325950
The one that left out half of the story's context while making this post.
Only reason to leave details out is if they don't serve you.
>>47328208
https://youtu.be/nhmUj9QJ9RM
>>47328257
I know, I want to show it to my french friends.
Surprising almost everyone, it turns out that /tg/ has excellent taste in vaporwave.
>>47326036
>memewave
You deserved it.
>>47328276
Yeah.
>>47328831
I don'the know if you knew it but /tg/ has always had patrician taste in music, aso long as they arn'the trying to fit in.
>>47325950
You were. Fucking off on Facebook/not paying attention to the game, whining nonstop when we derided your shitty anime "vaporwave" remix to go along with your kitsune bard's inspire courage "song"
>permanently gimps my character
yeah, it's called taking a negative level and it's what happens when you aren't paying attention and fail a save because you are holding up the game.
>calmly leave the table
in the middle of the session while leaving your mic on blasting your vaporware in roll20. Yeah, really calm and mature.
>>47325950
This is the DMs fault
Walking away and not responding to is the best way to deal with immature people
>>47329207
YESSSS THE DRAMA INCREASES
>>47329385
>>47329207
samefag
>>47329439
Nah, check poster #ers
>>47329207
Out of curiosity, what happened to the other player who he was talking to on FB?
>>47329535
well then the second guy is just retarded
>>47329207
So you punished him IC for OOC actions
what a douche
>>47325950
>>47329207
please tell me this is real
>>47325950
That woman is so damn cute...
>>47330265
Nah.
I'm absolutely certain it's just some anon trying to meme it up.
>>47326036
If you were using FB during the game you're a cunt and they're better off without you. Expecting players to focus 100% on the game for a couple hours a week isn't too much to ask.
>>47330403
The 'kitsune bard' is the step beyond believability.
Anyone playing that would have been way more of a pathetic crybaby in the OP.
>>47325950
>>47326144
Perhaps they are playing PARANOIA.
>>47330466
Depends if he was even in the area at the time. If they split up in a town/city then theres no need to be attentive as your character is not there if it is not your turn. Group A could be out scouting security or some shit which could take maybe thirty minutes or more depending how in-depth they attempt to be or are told to be. Why should you be "100% attentive" when your character is not even supposed to know what is going on?
In battle or group conversations when everyones character is present then yeah, don't be a dick on facebook and pay attention god dammit, but if not then who cares what someone else is doing while they wait for the time to pass back to them?
>>47328831
Don't look at me, I keep thinking its about a dab bong
Roll20 is srs bzn..
Worse my irl dm did to a player who talked ooc too much was give him a curse item that breaks the fourth wall and wishes his ooc comments to be true.
>>47330466
In the described situation another player AND the GM himself were perusing it too
>>47325950
bretty gud cosplay
>>47326036
lol what? leave that group. get far, far away from that group
>millennial can't get off social media to concentrate, gets called on it
As a GM nothing is more annoying than players chatting off topic on social media then asking if its their turn yet
Music chat is among the worst because then you get LMAO LET ME SHOW YOU THIS EPIC VIDEO
The closest I have come to kicking a player was when he took my having some ambient music appropriate to the scene as justification to play Dragonforce/Nightwish/the John Cena theme etc to "make the game EPIC"
Level drain isn't really a fair punishment but I am at least a little sympathetic to.the DM having been there before、
>>47325950
I'm glad to see someone has finally taken the age old advice and just left a shit group. Gimping someone IC for OOC is never acceptable, and with the explanation you and the reaction of your GM(even if it was most likely an anon memeing) shows you clearly made the rational and mature decision here.
>>47331453
That's generally why you talk shit out like adults, rather than punishing them IC for OOC bullshit that has no relation to what's happening in-game.
>>47325950
>>47329207
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bard? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in /tg/, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Quest Threads, and I have over 300 confirmed TPKs. I am trained in GURPS and I’m the top DM in the entire roll20 forums. You are nothing to me but just another PC. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on Middle Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my personal army on /b/ and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your character. You’re fucking stat-lossed, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, as long as Mom will let me borrow the car, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with Grimtooth's Traps. Not only am I extensively trained in rolling dice so they get the results I want, but I have access to the entire arsenal of 3.5 supplements, and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of this specific thread, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “vaporwave” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit passive aggression all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking drained, kitsune.
what the fuck is "vaporwave"?
>>47326036
>having kikebook
You deserved it.
>>47325950
I'm sorry, but I can't hear you over the sound of those glorious teddies
>>47326565
I've seen it happen. DMs are in short supply, so people cater to them. Then op gets fucked with, and they keep quiet. Then OP walks, and suddenly they care because they don't want their game to fall apart.
OP was right to quit. The GM is always right, but only for as long as his game is more fun than the next best alternative.
>>47329207
Hello, Ethan!
your player's and gm are retards
and you're retard too because you hang out with them
>>47333748
OP said he(?) got up and left, thus no longer hanging out with them.
>>47325950
Whats the whole story? What did you say to get gimped?
>>47326036
>Talking about vaporwave on FB chat w/ another player.
Did the other player get stat loss, too?
If not, you're not telling the whole story, or have missed the point.
>>47333406
Mistyped vapourwave.
>>47331453
Dude just let me show you this video, it's awesome.
>>47333209
I did, in my situation. The player unfucked themself. All was good.
It is frustrating though and not everyone likes to confront someone.
>>47326036
I get the feeling you are not telling the whole story
>>47326036
Soooo... did the other player get a stat loss as well?
>>47326232
It's not, but making a thread about it without explaining the situation in more detail and trying to get random anons to legitimize his actions definitely is.
>>47329726
>So you punished him IC for OOC actions
what a douche
It's not worse than holding up the session with OOC conversation.
There are only so many ways to enforce discipline in online games, some times you have to outdick the disruptive player. In-character penalties and kicking someone out of the group is basically the only real ways of disciplining someone.
>>47335425
fucking with a player's character to get them to pay attention is the lamest and most passive aggressive way to do it though. Say "hey if you don't want to play leave. If you do want to play focus on the game."
>>47329207
o shieeeet
>>47334178
If you can't handle confrontation with someone then, honestly, you shouldn't be sitting in the GM chair.
>>47335425
You can also, you know, say 'stop that shit'
>>47326393
>Define
>Lists bands
You have no fucking clue, do you?
>>47335931
Not him, but unfortunately for you, to "define" something as vague as an artistic genre is actually really, really hard. Defining something as a "good," as in, valuable, example of that genre is even harder. It's arguably impossible.
One means by which a thing can be "defined," however, consists of establishing parameters that are generally true of a thing: for example, a sandwich is generally some meat and cheese in between two slices of bread. There are sandwiches that are inarguably sandwiches (like, say, if you have meat and cheese between pitas or something) that avoid this definition, so it's not something to take too literally. You'll just get confused.
Another means of defining something in terms of parameters is to give examples of it. "Zombie" is a word that's difficult to define because in each of its occurrences, it can have wildly different properties: in a certain conception of a zombie, one must destroy the brain. In others, the "zombie" is merely an animated corpse that has limited regeneration capabilities. In others, a "zombie" is not necessarily dead at all, but an entranced or mindless living person. However, we can still substantively define "zombie" by therefore giving examples of each: the zombies from Hall of the Living Dead, Dungeons & Dragons zombies, and the real-world origin of the word are all versions of what can constitute a "zombie" that align, respectfully, with the descriptions I've just given.
It is possible to "define" something, even vague somethings, by giving examples, so it is legitimate and reasonable to respond to a request to "define" what makes "good vaporwave" by giving examples of bands that the answerer thinks of as good examples of "good vaporwave."
Faggot.
>>47325950
Here is you (You), now go away.
>>47335470
And the funny part is how they're butthurt that he DID leave.
>"It's my way or the highway, OP."
>"OK, highway it is. Bye bye DM."
>"OP how DARE you!"
If OP is such a shit, then shouldn't the group be happy he's gone? They're not entitled to his entertaining them.
>>47333757
Maybe if the GM gets a boom box and plays In Your Eyes on the player's front lawn he'll take them back.
>>47329207
S M A C K D O W N
I made a joke at mine of my DMs god of deaths expense. Apparently all of his gods are well aware of the fourth wall and punished my very confused character by cursing her with being banished from death. In essance making my character the DMs subject of physical abuse for the funnys.
>>47326036
No idea what that is but your DM is a faggot. Even here on 4chan having shit taste gets you insulted at worst, and then we forget about it and go back to shitposting.
Except /a/, they doxxed a mod for doing his job a while back.
>>47325950
>>47329207
Both OP and his DM are double niggers, news at 11.
Sounds to me like everyone involved is a colossal faggot.
>>47326393
Imaginary.
>>47338909
>cursing her with being banished from death.
That sounds like a buff honestly.
>>47340935
Imagine trying to play a serious character when the dm knows that he can tear off any limb of yours for a laugh with the justification of "don't worry it can't kill you" Also our game has yet to have a character die regardless so it's a pretty shit buff.
It pretty just means I can't take the character seriously unless I find a way to undo it.
>>47340935
Oh, and there is also the minor annoyance of every town having a cleric/paladin that follows them wanting to kick me out of town.
>>47326036
vaporwave sucks i would have done the same
>>47326036
You got what you deserved, you Facebook-having /mu/tant faggot.
>>47341393
Minette is cute!
Also, honestly, that sounds like a really cool character hook. Your GM sounds like they have something up their sleeve, or like they're a cunt. It might be both.CUTE!
>>47326144
My DM does this as well.
>>47325950
Need more context to decide. Be more specific.
>>47344976
see >>47329207, although anon might be lying
>>47330467 Underrated.
>>47330526
>>47325950
Well if it was PARANOIA it would be okay then.
Assuming the OP is not a faggot who whines over a fast an loose game of PARANOIA
From this information we can deduce that this IS in fact a game of PARANOIA.
PARANOIA is fun and it is treason to not be having fun.
Thus OP is having fun!
Having fun OP?
>>47325950
Nice Police Girl cosplayer.
>>47326036
That's just rude.
>>47325950
There is always a divide between IC and OOC. Crossing that divide - taking IC conflicts or results as personal offense, or using the game to take out OOC disagreements or frustrations - is a cardinal sin.
Tabletop games do not work without this divide. The GM is rightfully expected, and demanded, to be impartial and fair. Maybe not always nice, nor easy, but always impartial.
You're absolutely in the right OP. Zero tolerance.
>>47326565
You clearly have never been part of a small social group then.
Quite honestly, in many cases like these, agreeing with someone has less to do with thinking they're objectively correct after gathering all the information on your own, and more to do with who likes who more and who heard who first.
>>47329007
Still no reason not to have given the whole story in the OP. He had to have at least known that the first responses were all going to be "tell the whole story dumbass"
>>47334056
What the fuck is "vapourwave"?
>>47336124
This might be the most /tg/ post I've read all week.
You win this one good sir.
>>47336124
I feel as though examples are a useful and indeed necessary part of a definition, but not exactly sufficient without also some kind of brief explanation.
Vaporwave (also vapourwave)[3] is a genre of music that emerged in the early 2010s among Internet communities. It is characterized by a nostalgic fascination with retro cultural aesthetics (typically of the 1980s, 1990s, and early-mid 2000s), video games, technology, post-modern Japanese culture and advertising, and styles of commercial and popular music such as lounge, smooth jazz and elevator music. Musical sampling is prevalent within the genre, with samples often pitched, layered or altered in classic chopped and screwed style.[2][4] Central to the style is often a critical or satirical preoccupation with consumer capitalism, popular culture, and new-age tropes.[2]
Couple this with some examples of widely agreed upon examples of the genre and you have a perfectly fine functional definition.
>>47333808
>OBJECTION!
fucking good eye champ!
>>47348013
Hipster music
Would I be going too far to ask for my players' phones during a session?
>>47349368
Yes, but allow them to check text messages and calls.
The real killer is if they're on facebook or something during a dungeon and all the sudden "Wait, so where was the trap?"
Usually when you are the ONLY one thinking you are not a jerk, you usually are.
>>47341393
>>47343038
Seriously, this sounds like a really good opportunity. You're trying to play a serious character? Remember that while banished from death, they're not immune to pain (emotional or otherwise).
Just think about it, Anon, there's some good potential here.
>>47326025
Not OP, but OP's pic is Brittany Bors.
>>47333808
This is what I thought. It sounds like a bunch of immature teens having a bitch fit.
>>47349483
>allow them to check text messages and calls.
Why? That shit can wait for a few hours.
>vaporwave
You got what you deserved OP. Get some synthwave or get out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONRpgrC09NM
>>47349483
>>47353483
>not having friends who are mature enough to keep their phones in their pockets during the game unless it's an emergency, or excuse themselves if it is
>not having one 15-minute bathroom/phone/snack-prep break in the middle of your game session
>>47352578
>memebook
>memewave
>petty bickering
>thinking anything but immature teens
>>47353535
Synthwave is just another permutation of vaporwave, and is covered under the umbrella definition/clasification of vaporwavethis is good synthwave tho
>>47326036
Are you sure it's about those tastes in music, or was it because you were on your fucking cellphone/laptop during the game?
One of these things will make me far more sympathetic.
>>47353590
>synthwave is the same genre as slowing down a Diana Ross song and adding sound effectsI don't give a fuck if you don't think that's representative of vaporwave, it's the song most people think of when they look at the genre and it's shitalso all those postmodern ironic hipsters going on about how it's totally a satire of late 80s consumerist culture can eat a dick too, the very fact it's not filled with bearded faggots trying to make a statement makes synthwave a superior genre
>>47353708
Yeah, but Synthwave also has cyberpunk hipsters who completely miss the point of the genre and just think that it's Hotline Miami with chrome strapped on.
In fact, /v/tards is normally what I think of when I think of synthwave.
>>47354760
I have never seen any of these people.
And to be fair, if you believe most CP2020 players that pretty much is close to how their experience of cyberpunk went.
>>47326676
Wasn't he talking about vaporwave on facebook? How is that disrupting the game?
>>47357403
If you believe >>47329207, they were blasting it in-game.
>>47325950
From what I've read, you didn't want to be there anyway. So everyone wins.
You don't have to play in a game you don't like.
And that DM doesn't have to have you as a player.
>>47354887
Except that it happened in the 90's when it was ok to be inspired by the media coming out then. Not like today.
Those cyberpunk hipsters, you know.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gWXe6Am73E&index=1&list=PLyIFQr1wryPKU_QHC9NxCf7LuFAQtTLf0
>>47326272
>taking my ball and going home
It can't even be that. He's not the DM, he's not running the game. The enjoyment of everybody else should not hinge on one player.
