(pic related)
>>47314544
he would've killed himself and humanity wouldn't exist, but neither would chaos as we know it
>>47314544
Is there anybody in WH40K who ISN'T Alpharius? Fighting the Alpha Legion must be like this.
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/601507
>>47315156
Some are more Alpharius than others.
>>47314544
The emperor was dead all along.
>Horus. You were adopted
>>47315644
>>47315598
Pretty much this.
It's not the emperor keeping the beacon on, it's the sacrifices they're making to him. The death of 1000 psykers a day burns like a pyre in the warp.
>>47314544
The Emperor was a genetically engineered figurehead, created by the high lords of Terra to give something for humanity to rally behind. The Black Legion know this.
>"Death to the false Emperor!"
>>47315994
The Black Legion (like all other traitor legions and this whole heresy bs) are just fictional bogeyman, created by the high lords of terra to scare the shit out of their minions.
>40k Illuminati stuff dropping right here anon
>>47314544
>High Lords of Terra are secret Chaos Cultists
>they are keeping the Emperor alive so that he cannot reincarnate in a more powerful form
>the Emperor is summoning the Hive Fleet psychically so that he can be killed and reborn
>Goge Vandire was a good if autocratic ruler, but he pissed off the Space Marines and the Mechanicum. They used the well-meaning but easily manipulated Sebastian Thor as the figurehead for their rebellion. They won and Vandire is now the most vilified person since Horus
>Maccharius really intended to use his popularity pull a Caesar on the High Lords. (Maybe it's what actually happened, I'm not sure)
>>47316055
Bruh.
>>47316055
>>47316055
>>47316055
>>47316055
>>47316055
Honestly, fund it
I asked this in another thread but the thread got nuked because OP was a faggot
Why is big E's skeleton proportioned more or less like a normal human but all of his living artwork makes him out to be larger than a space marine? I assume he at least wasn't ALWAYS 10 feet tall, considering he was born in prehistorical times and wouldn't be able to blend in very well. Is his pictures of him in his armor just him curled up fetal position in the giant cuirass and controlling the whole thing with psychic?
>>47314544
All "souls" are in actuality daemons tied to the physical forms of intelligent organisms. Blanks have actual souls, which are anathema to daemons and reinforce the reality that spawned them.
>>47318705
The Emperor was a master Biomancer, it's part of how he created the Primarchs. Basically, he could appear however the fuck he wanted and for the sake of convincing humanity to defer to his judgement/will, he figured giant, golden, radiant, handsome motherfucker in artificer armour with eagle wings embossed on his PAULRDONS was the best way to go.
>>47318765
okay that makes sense
And I guess when he no longer had the luxury of the concentration and spare power to maintain his giant god mode, his corpse reverted to his normal size
>>47318765
The last thing he did before being interred in the Golden Throne was get in a fight with the most lethal being in the galaxy. Gotta get huge.
>>47318705
>Why is big E's skeleton proportioned more or less like a normal human but all of his living artwork makes him out to be larger than a space marine?
Without a frame of reference, a big man in a big chair looks like a normal man in a normal chair.
Also, The Emperor's normal image is confirmed to be a psychic projection. He actually looks like a tired old man.
>>47318798
28,000 years in MSPaint.
>>47319096
>>47318682
>>47318538
>>47318258
>Epic level same fagging
>>47316032
>warpfire can't melt webways
>>47315156
Everyone is potentially Alpharius. Except Alpharius. Alpharius is actually Omegon.
>>47318823
>Also, The Emperor's normal image is confirmed to be a psychic projection. He actually looks like a tired old man.
can you provide a source for this please?
>>47316055
By the Emperor.
>Alpharious is actually sitting in the statis field in Maccrage, the reason the wound looks like it is healing is because there was no wound in the first place.
>Omegeon is the first Grandmaster of the Grey Knights, Janus
>Tyranids are the biggest and first failure of the Old Ones.
>The orcs gestalt psychic field is so strong they are one of the biggest reasons there is only war.
>Cypher no longer knows if he is loyal or not, he acts according to a plan laid out long ago but has no memory of what the end result was. His mind is utterly destroyed and only has brief periods when he is lucid.
>The Tau are related or are the Necrontyr.
>Khaine is not an eldar god but a member of the Necron Star Gods, having been replaced when his essence was shattered by the birth of Slannesh.
>
>>47315706
what. the. fuck.
>>47315871
That does make too much sense actually.
>>47316055
>>47319682
This.
>>47321891
The Orc field is so strong it's the reason the tyranids came into existence to give them something to fight.
>>47322256
It was never the Emperor powering the beacon, he is however the only psyker strong enough to control it.
He can't be dead, without him it wouldn't be of any use. He is like the focusing lens of laser, without him, the Astronomican is diffuse and useless, with him, it is a clear and strong beam visible across the galaxy.
>>47321891
>Cypher no longer knows if he is loyal or not, he acts according to a plan laid out long ago but has no memory of what the end result was. His mind is utterly destroyed and only has brief periods when he is lucid.
Not really twist, but cool as fuark
>>47322513
Tbh I wouldn't even mind this
>>47322513
>>47321891
>Cypher no longer knows if he is loyal or not
I'm down for that. It makes him seem like a tragic figure, in fact.
>>47321891
>The orcs gestalt psychic field is so strong they are one of the biggest reasons there is only war.
>>47316055
Fuck, these gave the creeps.
>Creed is in fact a creation of Tzeentch,who got bored of the Great Game and wanted a challenge.
>The warp storms that engulfed what is currently the Tau Empire were created by the Emperor, so a Chaos-inmune race could develop and eventually clean the galaxy of Chaos.
>Abaddon's Black Crusades have failed,in the end, because the Dark Gods enjoy seeing him fail time and time again, no matter how much effort he puts in the cause.
>Tyranids are the most ancient race in the Universe; they scoured the Milky Way galaxy long ago, exterminating all life. The Ancient Ones, the Necrontyr, Eldar and even Humans are actually distant cousins of the Tyranids,having evolved into completely different species as livestock material for the Hive Mind.
>Bjorn Fell Hand knows the whereabouts of the Tree of Life,but won't tell anyone because it was revealed to him in a dream by the ghost of Leman Russ.
>>47321891
>Cypher no longer knows if he is loyal or not, he acts according to a plan laid out long ago but has no memory of what the end result was. His mind is utterly destroyed and only has brief periods when he is lucid.
>>47322835
>Abaddon's Black Crusades have failed,in the end, because the Dark Gods enjoy seeing him fail time and time again, no matter how much effort he puts in the cause.
I like this idea, but prefer that they fail because his success would fuck things up for them. If he wins, then Khorne will get a lot less bloodshed, Nurgle will get a lot less stasis, Slaanesh will get a lot less people striving to improve for the next attempt, and Tzeentch will actually succeed in a plot so he can't keep working against himself. The best thing for them is an eternal failure, where Abbadon never wins, but never dies, and therefore keeps trying forever.
>>47322835
Love all of this except the tyranid part
Necrons infiltrating the Imperium was pretty big. I don't think it is mentioned outside of Xenobiology.
>>47322923
40k's gods are pretty much all working together for the status quo because to them it is much more fun that way.
>>47316055
I can only wonder what Abaddon & others think of this.
>>47322483
If everything is canon, the Emperor is pretty explicitly dead. It's outline really pointedly in the introduction for the Inquisitor book. The throne itself is the lens; the Emperor's corpse is just that: a corpse.
>>47323254
*pretty implicitly. It's not flat out stated, but it's pretty obvious that the Emperor is about as alive as Liberace was straight.
I used to really want to build an alpha legion army, back when their background had never really been fleshed out. They were a lot cooler when they were just stealthy anarchists, really glad I jumped ship on that one.
>>47316055
>Emperor will be reborn as Ynnead
>>47323300
So,the Emperor is basically His spirit trapped inside His dead body. Everything attributed to His actions are actually due to something else, be it the Throne, the Chorus or some other element related to Him.
Sounds grimdark enough to be canon. Everybody in the Empire thinks he's guiding them, but it's just their need to believe in Him what keeps everything going one, while the Emperor's soul is desperately waiting for the Throne to breakdown so He can reincarnate.
>>47322835
>Bjorn Fell Hand knows the whereabouts of the Tree of Life,
what the fuck is tree of life
>>47323444
A legend of the Space Wolves. It tells somewhere inside the Eye of Terror there's a world where grows a tree which fruit grants eternal life, healing of all illness and wounds,no matter how grave. Some believe that's what Leman Russ set out to find, so he could retrieve the fruit to heal the Emperor.
>>47323426
What spirit? It was burned up millennia ago, powering the Beacon for a single day.
>>47323540
Source? I think I missed that. Or is it speculation?
>>47323584
My entry for biggest plot twist. They burned the Emperor's soul for fuel, and now they're throwing ten thousand psykers on the fire each day to keep it going.
>>47323540
I thought it was Malcador that died powering the Astronomican while Emps was fighting Horus.
>>47316055
That's pretty thought provoking.
The only way the Emperor could make the Primarchs was by making a deal with the Chaos Gods. All the Primarchs are basically Greater Demons of Man.
Perhaps the Emperor was using their energy or some shit and hoped they wouldnt discover what it was for. But it is all irrelevent, they spirited the Primarchs away.
Theres also an interesting theory I heard that the Big E is a Egregore constructed by Malchior, that mysterious human who somehow is his only friend.
>>47323681
Ah ok,I think I overlooked it.
>>47323681
>>47314544
GRRM was a writer for GW in his early years, but he got fired for putting too much rape into a hobbyist game. SoIaF is actually a thinly veiled copy of what he wrote when working for GW.
>The wall
Cadian Gate
>The others
Forces of chaos
>All that rape
reasons for being fired from GW
>King's landing and all the council shit
The High lords of Terra, assassins, all that shit you name it
>Lannisters
Lioooooooonnnnnn
>Starks
Woooolvesssssssssss
>Baratheon
Ultramarines
>Dothraki
squats (this is why GW removed them, too much interracial rape)
>The old gods
heresy
>The new gods
heresy
>The many-faced god
heresy
>Valyrian Steel/Obsidian
force/power weapons
>Eunuchs
Servitors
>Iron Bank
Mechanicus
>>47316055
Holy Shit.
Ciaphas CainHERO OF THE IMPERIUMis actually the Emperor reborn and it was only at a great age that his knowledge and powers consciously returned. As a younger man they subtly influenced the world around him which is what led to his ridiculous luck.
>>47323938
I want to believe this becuase that's awesome but for some reason I find myself doubting this
>>47323970
Malcador came back as Jurgen.
>>47316055
Tyranids were summoned by the Pharos.
>>47324039
Fuck off Ward.
>>47324012
That's because the sisters of battle are actually all men, and that armor plating between space marine legs is just ammo storage. When the emperor went to "bargain with forces of chaos" he actually just visited the vacation realm of the old ones, drank pina colada and traded schematics for pictures of scantily clad human females. The old ones masterplan is just for everything to kill everything else, and then come back when the immaterium is blank again because there are no living creatures to fuck it up.
>>47324057
>Ward
This is how you identify the newfag.
>>47323970
i'd honestly be ok with this.
especially if ciaphas actively doesn't know that fact, like emps reincarnated but his memory is still on the golden throne.
double grimdark points on he finds this out and as the new emps gets thrown out of the imperium for heresy shoot on sight by everyone involved.
>>47324081
ayyyyyyyyy roodypoo what an original comment, have some dank memes on the house
>>47316086
>>Maccharius really intended to use his popularity pull a Caesar on the High Lords. (Maybe it's what actually happened, I'm not sure)
I am reminded of another hotshot commander, Admiral Usurs, who fell out of favour with the High Lords; exactly why wasn't stated, but they wanted to get rid of him. He was "too powerful to execute without inviting civil war", so they sent him to conquer worlds beyond the galaxy for two decades until all contact was finally lost - and his reports of the new systems he found were never followed up.
>>47323034
Well, the original codex, and the pre-codex short story Deus Ex Mechanicus, revealed that the Deceiver had done it, but the idea that the actual Necrons themselves could was new (though the existence of sapient Necrons wasn't).
And Newcrons just have mindshackle scarabs that they use on everyone.
>>47323254
Pic related? Relevant to >>47316055 as well.
>>47323938
I presume then that this is where the Fimir came from (not 40k, but still).
>>47324158
>Fimir
>race which reproduces solely by rape
>it is known.jpeg
>>47323766
>The only way the Emperor could make the Primarchs was by making a deal with the Chaos Gods. All the Primarchs are basically Greater Demons of Man.
While it may be canon, that doesn't stop it being fucking stupid.
>Upon the rogue trader's vessel the kast Lord Cypher retired early to his rented quaters. They were lavish, gawdy and repugnant to him. A farcry from the sleeping cell assigned to him in the Order. He sighed at the memory, what he had been instructed, the last instructions of a shattered planet. He had escaped, he had seen the awful truth with his own eyes, the instructions encoded in his mind by Luthur were clear and bright in his mind...
>... And then they were gone again, his frenzied mind raced to recover some fragment as to why he was on this ship, where it was going and who was he with? He paced. Frantic. Forgotten in his mind and in his world. His hands, thick and callous, ran over his head as if to find some scrap of knowledge he had moments ago. He fell to his knees, and wept silently. Only stopping when the doors to his quaters opened and a small, cowled figure entered wearing the same robes as he.
>>47324081
I've been here at least a year friendo.
>>47324474
>canon
Since when did people accept hack writings as canon? Why would you accept all the revisions and reworkins if they are retarded? Just do with religioulus people do, pick and choose from whatever you like, and call that canon.
>>47324566
>cypher
literally naruto-tier character.
>>47324726
No idea what that means dude.
>>47324690
Friendly reminder that everything that is supposedly canon is propaganda. Everything is true and nothing is true.
>>47324690
Honestly I was just trying to avoid an argument. I personally don't regard it as canon, any more than this Perpetual bullshit. Takes away from the mysticism involved since tales of the Emperor are supposed to be shrouded in myth, passed down as legends. If anything, I think it lessens its quality as a tragedy. Rather than the Emperor being a well-intentioned man who made mistakes that ultimately led to his own downfall and self-sacrifice for the good of humanity, he gets turned into a fedora-tipping retard with literally no sense of how to deal with people.
And while I think the Emperor being a psychic projection of Malcador's (who is the true immortal from before recorded history) is interesting, I think it fits better than he's the one friend the Emperor can confide in, who keeps him grounded and connected to the rest of Mankind.
Here's my issue with the "emperor is waiting to die so he can reincarnate" ideas. Why would he have asked to be put on the throne when he was dying rather than just die and come back immediately when his sons were still around and the Imperium was in less danger?
And, whatever the reason is, won't X still happen if he dies now, 10,000 years later, as when he was first put there, except now there aren't primarchs or anybody else with any clue as to what they're doing so it's just far more dangerous to do so?
>>47325198
Because someone had to plug up the warp hole that would have turned Terra into Eye of Terror 2.0, now with galaxy wide service.
>>47325246
Yeah, but that'll happen even if he dies now. It's not like it's sealed off now and wasn't back then. So why would he be waiting to die to reincarnate? The same shit he went on the throne for will still happen, so all he did was waste 10,000 years.
>>47325198
>And, whatever the reason is, won't X still happen if he dies now
Maybe it won't be the same after having nommed 10000 years worth of psykers.
>>47324690
>Since when did people accept hack writings as canon?
Within the context of 40k? I'd say 1987 at least.
>>47325277
Nice dubs senpai. It's because he's trying to buy time for humans to evolve into a more psychicly active race, so that they can better fight Chaos.
>The Sigilite is a single aspect the Emperor cast out of the whole to coach and guide him through the difficult times ahead, unburdened by the collective thoughts the Emperor must balance. That is how he was able to hold the Golden Throne the way he did. He did not die, he rejoined the Emperor once again.
I'm the one who mentioned that Cypher lost his mind too.
>>47316055
You should work for GW and make this true.
>GW is so shit that even /tg/ fanfiction is better and more badass
What could have been...
>>47324795
I mean, say what you will about Inquisition War, it had its moments. And this was definitely one of them.
>>47316055
Mind blown.
>>47316055
Looks like Magnus & Kitten were working for Chaos all along.
>>47326361
>>47326361
Fucking Kittten is up to something.
He's totally gonna stab Magnus in the back.
>>47323766
>The only way the Emperor could make the Primarchs was by making a deal with the Chaos Gods. All the Primarchs are basically Greater Demons of Man.
Oh hi there, Erebus.
>>47323509
My theory.
It's with Isha at the centre of Nurgles Garden. The tree can only exist in her pressence; it is watered by her tears and grows from her love. The fruit taken from the tree will rot away to nothing before you leave the garden without her help.
Russ on the other hand is trapped Tzeench's labyrinth by Magnus. He waits for the wolf time when the emperor's light will show him the path to his escape.
>>47324156
Ward had nothing to do with the pharos, numb nuts
>>47321442
Not him, but there's a bit in Legion where the Emperor is glad-handing some troopers and when he gets to one of them the trooper sees right through his glamour for a split second and sees a wizened old man.
The Emp knows he saw this and is all like "we should talk later bruh" but the the trooper gets killed.
And then wakes up after everyone's gone because Highlander and goes onto become a Special Circumstances agent.
>>47324474
>While it may be canon,
That came from the mouth of a Lord of Change to Horus to convince him to fall to Chaos, need I remind you. Lords of Change aren't known for being bastions of truth and veracity.
>>47324690
It's a canon, in-universe explanation, but it is not the only one and isn't even a likely one.
>>47327620
>Lords of Change aren't known for being bastions of truth and veracity.
unless of course it's all part of their master plan
>>47326917
Do you think Matt Ward still plays 40k?
>>47328977
I don't think he's ever played
>>47318823
>Also, The Emperor's normal image is confirmed to be a psychic projection. He actually looks like a tired old man.
Horus got BTFO by the wizard of Oz!
Abbadabadoo on suicide watch!
>>47323254
That is pretty shitty canon then.
>>47323872
I too thought of this.
>>47314544
The Dark Angels are actually traitors.
Oh wait.
some inquisitors are actually lawful good
>>47332990
That's stupid, your stupid. I'm going to go get this dark party started properly.
>The Emperor knew that the Heresy would happen and how it would end
>He worked for millenia to come to this result
>Because he is a god of the warp too and wanted to create this status of eternal war
>Why?
>To feed and empower him and his kind by the emotions created by it
>Is sitting in the warp right now and thinks "Ayyyyy lmao"
The Emperor knew all along he was setting up a setting for a wargame, everyone, up to and including the Chaos Gods, has been played by him.
>>47323872
You've just gotta keep putting psykers on that fire, trust me that's how it works.
>>47324022
That makes a frightening amount of sense.
But also no sense at all.
I call Tzeentch.
>The reason Kharn keeps returning from the dead is that he is partly cybernetic
>It was not the World Eaters that rescued him from Terra but the AdMech, they were responsible for the breaking of his legion by overt control
>However, eventually the butchers nails were able to ovecome the Admech control, destroying his mind completely.
>>47327620
>>47326520
>That came from the mouth of a Lord of Change to Horus to convince him to fall to Chaos, need I remind you. Lords of Change aren't known for being bastions of truth and veracity.
Eat a dick, you lying bastard.
It came from the mouth of a Perpetual companion of the Emperor who witnessed him gain his power. Further,more, the Vengeful Spirit novel piles in more proof of it happening and it has nothing to do with daemons.
>>47324785
That's wrong.
The whole "Not true and true at the sane time" is not for the fans, it's for GW to retcon and change stuff at their leisure.
40K always had one canon.
>>47324690
>call that headcanon.
FIFY
At least have the grace of not passing your headcanon as actual canon. Otherwise you are doing harm to actual fluff discussion.
>>47314544
I prefer the "Alpharius is Guillaman" theory, simply because it was actually plausible with what little lore we had of Alpharius before he became "everywhere everyone secret plots"
Also because of the delicious irony in Alpharius killing and replacing Guillaman before getting sliced apart by demon-Fulgrim
>>47334397
>Squats were not wiped out by the Tyranids but instead were done so by order of the Lords of Terra after judging them too far removed from human.
>The reason Commissar Sebastian Yarrick is still alive is that the Orcs of Armageddon truly believe he can not die, Yarrick himself is driven mad believing himself cursed by the Emperor and desperate for the release of death and constantly tries to end himself.
>>47334601
I like these. Good job,Scriptor.
>>47334601
>>47316055
>The Golden Thone has been sabataged by people loyal to the Emperor so that his original plan can be fulfilled and he can be reborn again.
>The Adeptus Custodes are utterly ruined as a fighting force and utterly cowed by the High Lords of Terra and do what they instruct of them and maintain the status quo
>The brave culprit was a Grandmaster of an Assassins temple, this was the reason the brutally, shortlived civil war inside the Assasination Temples as retribution.
>>47334601
>the jokaero were warp engineered to appear silly and unable to speak so that they wouldn't be able to tell the truth about squats to the imperium while simultaneously providing the imperium with cool technological gadgets
>>47334772
>jokaero created the Tyranids
>it was a prank that got out of hand
>>47316055
The dark angel inner circle worship chaos in secret, just like the lords of Terra.
Cypher is a true loyalist who discovered this secret, and is heading to Terra on a suicide mission to slay the emperor so he may be reborn.
>>47334772
>The Jokaero are the results of the Ordo Chronos' experiments in to the nature of time. Having convulted their timeline they are a mix of genetic holdovers and hyper-evolution.
>So scared are they of making things worse they remain illusive and only rarely let slip one of their weapons in order to tip the scales in the Imperiums favor.
>>47334820
>jokaero tried to create a banana that keeps replicating itself and evolving into different tastes by consuming biomass
>just a prank
>>47334897
Introducing New Tyranid Pops!
>>47334601
>>The reason Commissar Sebastian Yarrick is still alive is that Ghrazgkul Thraka truly believes he is his utter nemesis can not die, Yarrick himself is driven mad believing himself cursed by the Emperor and desperate for the release of death and constantly tries to end himself.
I think this is even cooler.
>>47334956
a single ork can't make unhappeaneable things happen. most orks in his command don't probably even know yarrick
>>47334897
>>47334820
Brilliant!
>>47334897
>>47334820
IT'S JUST A PRANK BRO
>>47334983
Ghazgkull is the Prophet of the Waaagh! and a poweful psychic beacon,able to channel the psychic energy of all the orks around him. Maybe his crave for a worthy enemy such as Yarrick is so great he's inconsciously making him inmortal.
Or maybe not.I dunno,this is just a "plot twist" thread.
>>47334867
One orc can not do that, not even Thraka, hence why all of Armageddon and Thraka and all his Waaaagh believe it. As well as all the orcs that follow him and rush to 'Ork Valhalla'.
>Every Ordo of the Inquisition is horrifically understaffed, Inquistorial Fortresses stand empty on most planets with only the barest of staff to recieve news and requests, that is why they are forbidden to enter.
>It is all a grand misdirection in an effort to keep humanity from learning the truth as if it were known, Mankind's enemies would increased hundredfold.
>They fight a loosing battle on nearly all planets (Cadia, Armageddon and Terra being some of the few planets to anything near real strength) for more manpower hence the recent grim news of mind-wiping stormtroopers as demand for their services is ever growing.
>>47335033
Plot twists without breaking anything long and firmly established without reason.
Were the ancient Egyptians human servants of a Necron Lord on Earth in 40k universe?
>>47335115
all necrons were sleeping at that time
>>47335115
Maybe.
Triarch Praetorians travelled around the galaxy as the rest of the Necrons slept. Occasionally they descend on primitive planets as gods and teach the primitives the ways of Necrontyr culture and codes.
A Triarch Judicator commented that he witnessed humanity emerge from the muck and become a galactic power. He might have visited earth at some point.
>>47335152
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Triarch_Praetorian
Do you get off on lying, anon? Shame on you.
>>47335152
in 40k
>ancient Egyptians
>Necrons
>Thousand Sons
all share the same iconography. I guess it's just bad writing and not something they were concerned lore-autists would worry about
>>47335060
Ok then.
>The Phoenix Lords are in fact the last remaining Avatars of the dead Eldar gods,much like the Avatars of Khaine.
>Tyranids are just another extra-galactic race fleeing from an even larger predator. They cause the Shadow in the Warp, but they're not the actual Great Devourer. That's yet to come.
> The first Sisters of Battle,Vandire's bodyguard,where in fact a shot by a magos biologis to replicate the creation of the Astartes.
>Marneus Calgar is clone of Guilliman commissioned by the High Lords of Terra centuries ago, but toned down so nobody suspects a thing.
>>47335042
>There is a swiftly growing devide between the forces of man, the Imperial Guard and the Astra Militarum.
>The disparity of equipment, training and missions between the two legs of the same force is growing so deep that already reports of conflict are reaching Segmentum Command
>Predictions by the most senior tactians of the Imperium and by the most farseeing of Sanctioned Psykers both agree that a terrible civil war will come unless drastic changes are implemented, one that can threaten every world in the Imperium.
>As the Emperors body gradually dies due to the malfunctioning Golden Throne, the Ecclesiarchy are resorting to increasingly desperate measures to control their flocks.
>Miracles rarely happen were once they were common, statues of the Emperor Ascendant once wept constantly now run dry, Halos of light that were once viewed above faith shrines now grow dim.
>The most recent Conclave of the Ecclesiarchy debate other means to keep the faithful loyal and subservient, the most popular being the deliberate manifesting of miracles through carefully placed psykers hidden within the grandest of Cathedrals.
>>47335229
err these are weak or just stupid
>>47335211
You
see
>>47335191
>>47335206
GW writes a plausible explanation and you lazy fucks don't read it.
>>47335247
I saw that it was posted at the same time you knob lol
>>47335241
At least I'm not selling them like they were fucking gold,anon. Just throwing around some ideas.
>>47335262
No excuses, anon.
Accept your guilt.
>>47335247
i'm sorry i'm all out of money and can't buy the new books every week
>>47335286
Then pirate them, ya mook. The /40k/ general has the links.
>>47335318
Or at least use the interweb wikis.
>>47335318
my data plan is almost out
You know how a lot of Imperial equipment is salvaged and repurposed STC designs...
And these STC design originate in the Dark Age of Technology...
It would be nice to get a glimpse of this era before everything got grimdark.
The novelty of seeing familiar 30k and 40k designs without all the gothic doodads and ignorance that marks later centuries before everything went tits-up.
>>47335360
gtfo ma 4chin
Here you go faggots, is anybody even contributing anymore? Most the greentext are mine.
>Before the first millenium had even dawned, a pentinent Praetorian of a long forgotten Dynasty was given the task of searching and preparing suitable tomb worlds for invasion and the soul forges for the awakening.
>Ever loyal to the ever Silent King, he entered the Sol system and found the only habital 3rd planet in the system.
>Influencing the fledgling nation of Gyptus, they began to grow exponetially in power.
>Far to the north, in Anatolia, stories spread of a creature loyal to the Pharos and his line, how strange and archaic buildings are done, regardless of the cost to the land and people.
>It is from here, a golden-haired man begins the long march South, what happens is lost to time and history but wthin the century the great line of Gyptian kings died out leaving ruins and stories.
>The mythical STC library is a lie and has never existed, only those dedicated to a specific task.
>This was one of the many things the Emperor fabricated in order to secure the aid of the AdMech
>Going to far as to introduce the information retroactively through the Srap Code that lurked on Mars as a means of historical revisionism.
>>47314544
The chaos gods only exist since the orcs overheard cultists and retroactively created them
>>47335463
>>47335500
>>47335562
Yeah, the Necrons was a joke. The STC thing I gave some thought towards. Also got dubs of dubs.
>>47335511
>cultists of gods that don't exist
hmmmmm
>The Shamans that went into creating the Gestalt Superman that is The Emperor got high and psionic after devouring Ork mushrooms and fungus, absorbed their latent psyker powers, and forever became enhanced and changed.
>The Emperium then went on to bastardize Necron technology.
>The God Emperor of Mankind is not solely human, but modified by the diversity and integration and appropriation of the warlike Orks and the unending Necrontyr.
>being Pure Terran does not mean coming only from Terra as the byproducts of evolution, but also defined by being enhanced and changed by xeno technology, science, psionics and genetic engineering.
>humans are like multi-racial children calling themselves a pure race.
>The God of Technology on Mars keeps humans in a perpetual cycle of fear and war in order to keep them forever productive of daemonic Machine Spirits.
>The Adeptus Mechanicum are cucks of this Machine God, using humanity to perpetuate their assimilation of technology across the galaxy and spread.
>>47329306
Crack open any of the big rule books and you can see him playing his necron army
>>47335849
epic, simply epic
>>47334983
Nah, Yarrick is pretty famous: the bale eye was even a deliberate move to reinforce the Orks' belief that he could kill with a glance.
However, Orks who've never met him also believe he's some massive monster-humie, a true pinkskin equivalent to Ghazghkull. Which is very much not the case.
>COMMISSAR YARRICK
>Being somewhat soft, it is extraordinary for ’umies to gain respect from Orks – especially greenskins led by a stoic and battle-hungry Goff like Ghazghkull. Although Space Marines are regarded with esteem for their skills in battle – none more so than Commander Dante of the Blood Angels – it was an Imperial Commissar that drew the most admiration from the Orks. Here was an uncompromising warrior – as eager to shoot his own ladz as the foe, if that’s what it took to gain victory. Commissar Yarrick was certainly a thorn in Ghazghkull’s side, for the greenskins reckon that it was he alone that willed the defenders of Hades Hive to hold on for so long. The Orks gradually learned from their captives that the defenders of Hades had grown to fear Yarrick as much as they dreaded the fury of Ghazghkull. To the Orks, this was the kind of leader they could respect. The fact that he wore Goff colours – black with red trim – boosted his esteem even further. It is said that of all Ghazghkull’s foes, Yarrick was the only one that he ever cursed – high praise indeed. Those Orks that came face-to-face with the infamous ‘Umie Boss’ often expressed disappointment. In person, Yarrick was only human-sized, although this was lessened somewhat because he did at least wear an Ork power klaw and bear an evil eye. Amongst the Boyz, it was said that those Orks that recognised who they were up against were always slain – for they stood in gape-jawed disbelief at Yarrick’s insulting puniness and so left themselves open to a deathblow. The wily Orks acknowledged the value of this tactic, even if it was a sly, sneaky Blood Axe kind of trick.
>>47336014
Well yeah.
To an Ork that's gotta be about at most, a solid level above getting punked by a Gretchin with a digital weapon.
The Loyalist Primarchs are all dead and or rendered no threat.
Lion El'Jonson
>Lion El'Jonson does not sleep at the center of The Rock, he is awake and is wracked with soul-rendering guilt over what happened at Caliban, unsure of what is true and what is not he convinces himself of one thing only to do the opposite the next. The Dark Angels completely unknowing.
Jaghatai Khan
>Jaghatai Khan could of done far more during the Siege of Terra but was unsure, overlooked, cast aside and somewhat resentful he turned away from the Emperor after the Heresy. It was the first Great Hunts mission to slay him, they did so. Having committed the greatest fraticide, the White Scars keep up the act (and now fully believe, the trust lost) that they search for their Primarch.
Leman Russ
>Leman Russ is fell to the Canis Helix not long after the Horus Heresy, the story Bjorn The Fell-Handed told is a confused allagory of what befell him. He was released to stalk Fenris as the largest Fenrisian Wolf to live.
Rogal Dorn
>During the time of rebuilding when the legions were split in to seperate Chapters, Rogal Dorn was unable to bring himself to shatter his legion, a legion that esposed the whole over the self. Wracked with guilt over the Emperor, the Iron Cage and the failing Imperiu he spent increasing times in the pain glove, eventually dying within. It was another who split the legion for him.
Corax
>When Corax began trying to hurry the creation of his legion, he also experimented upon his own self. Ordering his most learned Apothecaries to cut what they needed from his flesh and practice. The experiments never reached actual experiments on newly inducted marines. The howling beasts below the Ravenspire tower was always and only Corax. Upon breaking free, mutated and made foul by his own hand, he fled to the Eye of Terror, reducing faster and faster in to chaospawn.
>More to come
That the Eldar are dicks is a rumor spread by the Dark Eldar to ruin their cousins' reputation. They're actually cunts and assholes.
>The Eldar Gods still live on within Slaanesh, fighting the nascent god-mind for control of the body, but barely losing. Were the remaining Eldar souls in the Craftworlds, in Commoragh, and on the Exodite worlds to join their gods in the effort, they could fuse into a single, overpowering being create Ynnead AND destroy Slaanesh by simply overpowering She Who Thirsts with their collective will. This is made possible only because Slaanesh was a uniquely Eldar creation - as opposed to Khorne and Nurgle, born of primal forces even brute beasts can attest to, and Tzeentch, born of the hopes and schemes of multiple species.
>>47335791
>What are real world cults
That shit happens all the time, the big four were just the ones that were learned about by the orcs. Mostly due to them hearing about how killy Khorne is, and learning of the others as a side effect.
>Machine spirits are actual spirits in the Shinto tradition. And the rights to appease them act as maintenance or operation manuals because the machines like being in functioning order and fulfilling their purposes. If one can convince the spirit that it's function is different than what it was made with the machine will actually transform to fulfill the new purpose, but convincing one of that is nearly impossible.
>>47336580
"Sister... did your bolter become a dildo?"
"I had nothing to do with that."
"It clearly thought you did.."
"I. had. nothing. to. do. with. that."
"How did you appea-"
"NOTHING. TO DO. WITH IT."
>>47316055
So much samefagging to this post
>>47335042
That's pretty depressing.
>Khorne has his coming out
>wants to be called "Khornelia" from now on
>becomes the warp god of SJWs
>>47337777
Noyce quads fa/tg/uy anon....
>>47337777
>Slaanesh becomes bored with sex.
>Takes up sewing
>ends up fixing the eye of terror
>>47338656
>Nurgle finally discovers personal hygiene
>suddenly scores a lot of pussy
>starts a pick-up-artist channel on WarpTube
>Slaanesh kills her/him/itself
>War will end when billions of suffering humans create Gods of Order.
>The God of Moderation will fight excesses and irrationality. Khorne, Nurgle and Slanaash will find an opponent that tirelessly, coldly combats imbalances in bureaucracy, in violence, in unreasonable and unsustainable ideas.
>The God of Reason and Brotherhood reflects the human need for self-determination, independence and sovierngty, but also recognizes rejecting potential xeno allies and technology is suicide in a world where they have few allies. The God of Reason is endlessly tolerant, patient, above being provoked into violence or petty slights. Their strength is in their invulnerability; reflected in adamantium armor and shields. Especially useful when negotiating with Eldar and Necrons, when the need arises. Trading land, trading resources, trading information. Schmoozing with the remaining beings who will see reason.
>The God of Human Intelligence cares not for bureacracy nor dogma. It, like nature itself, is a cook. Its engineering and technology is living, breathing, organic. It is borderline amoral, if cautious about itself, and finds great delight in unleashing unpredictable hell on its enemies, as well as getting around rules, regulations and even definitions and categories. Innovation, engineering and rediscovery, the realm of mad men and innovators. Married to goddesses of Energy and Substance, he produces endless spawns of earth and fire and plastic and glass. Just as apt to sanction and aid the Adeptus Mechanicus as it is to circumvent them when they get wet feet, to their chagrin. Machine Spirits will look more favorably on those who revere even just the SPIRIT of the trailblazer, the questioner, the innovator.
>The God of Sorcery. Fearlessly tames daemons and overpowers them to be subserviant, turning them into harmless and benign sources of power for Mankind.
>>47324158
The Necrons spoofed the Inquisition's coms and sent a member of the conservative faction to a planet with a xeno zoo. The inquisitor thought he received a mission to look up intel about a high ranking radical Inquisitor. In the end he was used as bait to draw in an elite Inquisitor strike force so that it could be eliminated. At the end a Nercron Nexus erupts under the facility and rains shit on the Inquisition. It shows that there is major cracks inside Imperium security.
>>47326953
That is not at all what it implies.
>After a bloody conquest at Baktria, Grammaticus had been one of a hundred Caucasian officers invited to a Triumph at Pash, hosted by the retinues of the thunderbolt and lightning army. During the festivities, the Emperor – even then he had been known only by that objectionable epithet – had grandly toured the tables to personally thank his foreign allies and the leaders of the mercenary clans. Grammaticus had been one of hundreds present to receive his grateful handshake. In that moment of contact, he had seen why the Emperor was a force to be reckoned with: a psyker of towering, unimaginable strength, not really human at all by any contemporary measure of the fact. Grammaticus, who had never met anyone else like himself, had shuddered, and felt like a drone insect in the presence of its hive king. The Emperor had felt Grammaticus in the same passing second of contact. He had smiled.
>‘You have a fine mind, John,’ he had said, without having to ask Grammaticus his name. ‘We should talk, and consider the options available to beings like us.’
>He closed his eyes and thought of Rukhsana.
>It’s as if you see right into me. There was too much truth in that. His mind saw into everything. It made him think of the thing he tried never to think about: that day, long ago, meeting the Emperor, shaking his hand, tasting the power, and seeing, behind the glamour of that handsome, noble, healthy face, seeing…
>Just for a nanosecond.
>Seeing…
>‘Are you quite well, sir?’ the bashaw asked. ‘You went rather pale all of a sudden. Is it motion sickness?’
>‘No. I’m fine. Absolutely fine,’ Grammaticus replied.
>>47315706
HERESY!
>>47338784
>after existing in a state of aevum, conspirating and making plans for so long, Tzench devellop alzheimer and forget his final plan
>struggle as he try to remember what was the point of all his complex conspiracies.
>>47336123
Please continue.
>>47339329
There's also the bit on one of the final pages, after the big reveal, when the action is over, that mentions other Conclave Conservatii members disappearing in the wake of the incident.
>In the end he was used as bait to draw in an elite Inquisitor strike force so that it could be eliminated.
I think the point of luring the second Inquisition ship to the world was both to trap Sasham there - first by driving away his own orbiting vessel, then finally destroying his shuttle and deploying the stormtroopers to besiege the facility - and to put further pressure on him, guiding the experiment he had no idea he was the subject of to its conclusion.
>>47324795
To be fair to the Emprah, it is not His fault: the reason the Emprah has been turned into a fedora-tipping retard with literally no sense of how to deal with people is simply because he is BEING WRITTEN BY a bunch of fedora-tipping retards with literally no sense of how to deal with people.
Better writers = better Emprah.
BL = shitty Emprah
Who built the Omega Vault and for what purpose?
>>47314544
Alpharius and Omegon are the two lost Primarchs.
The original Primarch of the XX Legion was somehow fatally flawed and degenerated into a vile monster. The Emperor was forced to destroy him completely and conceal what had happened, least the Legions and Primarchs he needed to forge the Imperium begin to fear they too might be flawed from conception.
Unsure if the Primarch's taint had been passed into the geneseed the Emperor forbid the XX Legion from expanding any further, sealed the information about its origins and placed it on a tight leash.
Later when the two lost Prmarchs and their legions were purged for whatever crimes they committed the Emperor offered them a bargain: They could continue in his service and their Legionaries could survive among the ranks of the Ultramarines, but they would have to take up the mantle of "Alpharius Omegon" and serve as the leaders of and geneseed for the XX Legion, ensuring the secret of what had become of the original XX Primarch would never be revealed.
They accepted and everything about their original identities, even their appearances and memories, were remade and Alpharius/Omegon was born.
But some sliver of their old identities remained deep inside them, stirring doubt...
BONUS TWIST
Horus knew the true fate of the lost Primarchs, but not the fate of the XX Primarch. Seeing how harshly his brothers were treated, but not understanding why the Emperor had done such a thing, deeply shook his faith in him as a benevolent leader.
>>47340190
>>47315706
>>47321909
Is it called incest or maturbation to have sex with your genetically enhanced clone-son? I mean, basically he`s doing it with himself, right? (Or at least an aspect of himself).
Or is it "just" gay?
>inB4: every dull autist posts "anyway, it`s heresy" now...
>>47318705
Emps is actually a normal weedy dude but uses glamour magic to appear xbox hueg
>>47340604
>Malal is still non-canon, so nobody cares what happens to him
>
>>47336123
eh, i'd take the khan perhaps but Dorn, no. there's a writeup on 1d4chan that does his motivations (and the imperial fists at that) justice.
>>47334455
>Not for the fans
Well, at least this particularly Stockholmed individual understands GW's priorities.
>>47340604
>This occurred ten millennia ago.
>>47337777
Quads observed.
>The Emperor has long since died.
>the thing eating 1000 psychic children a day on Holy Terra is not The Emperor's sacrifices, but from a daemon spawned from his dying.
>The Adeptus Custodes are tasked with fighting it. It is a slowly losing battle that is sacrificing many of them per day.
>>47321442
It's in one of the Corax books, apparently he Emperor looks different depending on who is looking, Corax being the stealth master sees through his glamour.
The whole setting is just an holographic simulation for 60k tau fire caste cadets.
>>47347606
Magnus could see through the emperors psychic masquerade too. Also, this appearance changing effect depending on who`s looking at him was said to be strong in Magnus too.
>>47316055
>>47347317
>this particularly Stockholmed individual
It's just Carnac.
>>47334850
>The Inner Circle doesn't want to wake Lion Because he knows the truth
>Luther never attacked the ships
>anyone not on caliban got tainted in the warp minus lion
>they sevrely woumded lion
>all dark angels who survived caliban are true loyalists helping cypher get to the emperor
>>47348731
>le boogeyman
It's Gw fans in general.
see AoS.
>>47348824
Some may have reduced him to a boogeyman, but that was him. Since you mention AoS too, he's one of the most vocal supporters of it on /tg/ (though he still continues to blight the WHFB general as well despite his supposed, self-proclaimed contempt for the setting).
>>47335511
>>Rogal Dorn is alive but he's insane, handless and wandering through an unidentified space hulk...
>>47323766
Malcador is the real Emperor. The Emp we know is actually Primarch 0.
>>47340604
Fuck,this is hilarious and depressing at the same time.
I have the best one:
>WH40k is actually a good game
>>47349134
that bullshit about amber made me real salty.
>>47347041
It made me like the Fists so much.
>>47352318
He is thebestprimarch.
>>47352344
My fellow melanin rich individual
>>47352318
yea. i'm really glad i read that too. fanfic or not, it meshes perfectly. and goddamn it is fuckin on point. Kinda torn on the pic they have up vs. his official description with the mustache. He looks so intense in that pic. I guess it really depends on who's writing him that determines his temperament but headcanon makes me see him as a stern but fair father figure to the imperial fists.
>>47343547
I must of read over that, not a surprise since I was still pretty shocked over the twist at the end. That was my first 40k book I have ever read, I am dying to read something on par to Xenobiology.
The Ordo Desolatus (latin: from dē (“from, away from”) + sōlus (“alone, sole, only”))
Its a space station shot out into the darkest edge of known space, with all human knowledge and recorded history on it. With one Inquisitor in cryo-stasis against his will.
A final time-capsule for all humanity, for when mankind is wiped out at the end of the 41st millienium.
>>47352573
That is some god damn spooky shit
But I believe it
>>47352573
yea but this is warhammer40k. in some way shape or form, some writer is gonna deus ex machina that shit and suddenly be happened upon by some chaos bullshit. the inquisitor will be inviolably tainted and when he lands, augmented by chaos, he'll grow a fuckin army out of fungi and blood or something, a pale imitation of the SPESS MAREENS and now we'll get some knock off human-esque faction spanning worlds from the edge of space like the fuckin tau. except they'll be...idk, what's the sci-fi flavour of the month that hasn't been beaten to death? Fuck it, hermaphadites. an alien race of SJW, hermies running around with gestalt psyker abilities.
>>47352808
GW Legal Dept here, we're onto you and your leaks.
>>47352573
they could blatently rip off the ending of that short story (9 billion names of god)
his cryo-stasis unit powers down (maybe its got a dead-mans hand signal being sent from terra up until the point of species death). he wakes up and looks back through the viewer in the direction of the galaxy. as he watches one by one, without a fuss, the stars start to blink out.
>>47352573
>>47335042
I really like these two together. Really stacks on the feeling of hopelessness.
>>47352573
>in a cosmic turn of irony, the inquisitor they sent out on the station would have eventually lead to Imperium Triumphant had he/she been allowed to remain on duty.
>>47352573
>>47353038
2spooky4me
>>47353113
psssh, yeah sure. if he wasn't dutifully executed for being in the same atmosphere as a chaos space marine coughing.
>>47353038
and that would be where >>47352808 would pick up or something.
not that it matters, it's gonna be another what, 10-15 years before we ever find out what the fuck happens since the whole lore is based around the game and once that delicate* balance gets nudged ever so slightly, people will collectively lose their shit and GWS will face a bigger red margin than Sears.
>>47352573
The inquisitors ship gets sucked into a black hole. The ship breaks apart. He doesn't die, instead he drifts through this nothingness for aeons.
Eventually he gets shot out into realspace. He crash lands like a comet on a planet.
Its 8,000 BC. Central Anatolia, Terra.
>>47353272
oh ffs. i dont know what would make me angrier, chaos intervention bullshit or this.
this does sound like some bullshit a writer hired by GWS would do though. keeps the status quo, blah blah fuckin blah.
>>47352573
perfect
>>47353272
That inquisitor's name?Mustafa Kemal.
>>47352573
Fuck,I think you're onto something,anon.
> Humanity actual have a gestalt psychic consciousness like the Orks do, albeit weaker and functioning differently. For humanity it manifests in Faith and the miracles and divine intervention so common in 40k. Orks believe red ones go fasta so they do. Humans believe the Emperor protects and so he does.
> Humans believe the Emperor yet lives and watches over them from the Golden Throne and so he does. The more that believe it the stronger the effects - miracles become more common, powerful. When faith wanes then so does the Emperor.
>The small Tau empire no longer can keep up with the manpower demands of fighting so many larger factions on so many fronts so they have resorted to using their technology to raising their dead to fight again.
>Plasma-punk
>>47357339
Holy shit this actually makes sense.
>>47357678
Would explain the AdMech and the machine spirits too.
> Tanith was discovered by the Raven Guard.
>They understand how the shifting forests could help raise stealth masters
>Seed planet with colony ships from Deliverance (pale, black haired people)
>Future generations become stealth masters but planet destroyed before Raven Guard could return to harvest aspirants
>>47357339
Hell this is practically my cannon explenation for Holy stuff in my Rogue Trader and Dark Heresy games. Along similar lines, the astronomicon is shooting a beam of "Emperor thoughts" into the warp constantly its bound to have an effect in the material world beyond being just a becon.
>>47357431
Isnt there one cannon Tau battlesuit piloted by an AI copy of a firewarriors brain? I could tottally see an underpopulated sept after a catastrophe doing that on mass, wraith-warrior and knight style.
>>47358833
I wasn't thinking anything with the battlesuits.
What I had in mind was something like the German WW1 soldiers in Sucker Punch that are powered by "steam and clockwork" only the Tau use plasma power and (I dunno) gyros(?) to reanimate the corpses of Fire Warriors. Especially to fight against the Tyranids - no fear and the degraded biomass would be of questionable value to the Hive Mind.
>>47325328
Nah, 2007.
>>47347412
Ozzy! NOOO!!!
>>47357339
I thought that was already canon-
It's how I justify the living saints, sob acts of faith, the sanguinor, and the legion of the damned. They're just daemons of order.
>>47352512
Yeah, it's always been one of my favourites too. So much atmosphere, and the way everything comes together at the end.
>>47314544
>Biggest plot twist in 40k lore
The emperor is gay and he mentally forces the custodes to walk around naked so he can look at their meat.
>>47326729
What's the time mr wolf?
>>47357339
I thought this was pretty much canon, since psyker and librarian power are a bit like divine magic from fantasy games, and with the rising of psychic capable population in the Imperium and so on.
Their prayers are literally keeping him alive,lol.
>>47314544
>>47315156
>>47334557
Alpharius is actuallyTzeentchhaving fun.
>>47322923
>>47323043
>40k's gods are pretty much all working together for the status quo
I always thought this was more or less implicitly canon. After all if they win they lose.
>>47340604
Damn OP, now you made me feel sad for Tzeentch-kun.
>>47318823
You have a frame of reference, there's a human skull under his right hand.
Actually, in the shade of his right hand, He looks to be nearly 15 feet tall, with a skull twice human size and handspan sufficient to hold two skulls in a single hand.
>>47320761
>>47318705
Here is official artwork of the emprah without power armor
>>47365140
If the size of purity seals are consistent, my 15 foot estimate was more or less correct, He's a titan among men.
