Welcome everyone, new and old players alike! This is Tundra civ, a civ thread series in a fictional, non-fantasy setting where you play as the rulers of the White Republic, a nation in a world similar to our own.
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Previously on Tundra civ:
>>47217360
After the end of the Great Eyerdar War the world is once again at peace. We, the White Republic, set our sights to the pursuit of science and wealth. Technology has been advancing greatly in all regards and the common man can enjoy a better life thanks to it. Voting rights were extended to married women who have completed militia training. Prosperous years ensued, but in the autumn of 1180 AE the Centerhold stock market crashed! Now, in the first days of 1181 AE, the market continues to go down as the crisis has spread from finances to all areas of both the private and public sector.
>Population:151 000 000 (78% white, 15 % chink,2%hibibi, 3% darkskin,2% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 25 000 000 Eyerdar 13 500 000 Veita 13 500 000 Ocras
>Economy:5//10
>Food stockpiles:8/10
>Food production: 7/10
>Political Stability:6/10
>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Construction
>F.Improve Military
>G.Research science
>H.Improve Navy
>I.Improve economy
>J.Regional development
>K.Diplomacy and war
>L.Government and laws
Businesses in Aymsland and Northern Eyerdar have been hit the hardest, but those in the southern colonies are also experiencing troubles now.
>>47251716
>>47251689
I improve our economy
What course should the government take to combat the crisis? Inflation and unemployment are both rising.
A.Financial route - More fiscal responsbility, balance the budget, cut unnecessary spending, cut taxes, try to get inflation under control
B.Nationalise some industries, issue labor bonds, issue government programs paid with them, address material goods production first rather than focusing on money
C.Be even more extreme, nationalise as much of the private sector as possible, put it under strict government control
D.Let it pass, more interference would only make matters worse. The free market will fix this.
>>47252403
>A.Financial route - More fiscal responsbility, balance the budget, cut unnecessary spending, cut taxes, try to get inflation under control
>>47252403
>A cutting taxes for the first time
Let's roll good this time
Rolled 75 (1d100)
We'll try the financial route, the crisis is still mostly financial in nature, hopefully we'll be able to nip it in the bud.
>>47252533
nice.
We've invested a bit into tech we should do some agriculture and infrastructure. once we have the funds for it.
>>47252533
Nice >75
Success! While it took some time and there was some irreparable damage done already, further damage was prevented after appropriate measures were taken. The National Bank, its minting and the Treasury underwent some reforms and new appointments. The initial shock and panic eventually wore off, the Camark is once again returning to its previous value. The crisis lasted for less than a year overall, it is now the summer of 1182, the economy has almost completely recovered now.
>Population:152 000 000 (78% white, 15 % chink,2%hibibi, 3% darkskin,2% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 25 200 000 Eyerdar 13 600 000 Veita 13 600 000 Ocras
>Economy:7//10
>Food stockpiles:7/10
>Food production: 7/10
>Political Stability:7/10
>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Construction
>F.Improve Military
>G.Research science
>H.Improve Navy
>I.Improve economy
>J.Regional development
>K.Diplomacy and war
>L.Government and laws
>>47252731
>>B.Food production & Population growth
The new government, a unified coalition of urban and rural conservatives, has taken several measures to improve the state of our agricultural sector. In some places there's actually been a large excess of agricultural products being produced which aren't being sold or consumed. Interest-free loans are being granted for the purchase of advanced machinery, but a large focus is also on quality of produce. Quantity must be kept at a reasonable surpus to guarantee that everyone can afford food, but a more diverse and healthy diet will also help children grow better.
In 1183 we've seen a rise in birth rates after the economy has started improving once again and living costs are falling alongside unemployment. The upward trend is expected to continue for a while.
>Population:153 000 000 (78% white, 15 % chink,2%hibibi, 3% darkskin,2% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 25 300 000 Eyerdar 13 700 000 Veita 13 600 000 Ocras
>Economy:8//10
>Food stockpiles:7/10
>Food production: 9/10
>Political Stability:8/10
>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Construction
>F.Improve Military
>G.Research science
>H.Improve Navy
>I.Improve economy
>J.Regional development
>K.Diplomacy and war
>L.Government and laws
>>47252962
>B.Food production & Population growth
>>47252962
C I think its been a long time we didn't go with C
>>47252962
>>C.Improve religion/culture
>>47252962
>C.Improve religion/culture
sorry for being late.
As time has passed the various Regions have developed local cultural aspects. The accent in which a man from Lakeside would speak is different from what a colleague of his in Center-Kot would have. Determined by nature, economic development, historic events and proximity to other cultures, the Regions have naturally progressed in diverging paths, but what unifies all of us is our blood, faith, nation and history.
How shall we influence the development of our national culture?
A.Encourage free development of arts and sciences, an exchange of ideas and free discourse
B.Work on strengthening our religious institutions and the people's faith, a vital part of our core binding principles
C.Foster patriotism, national brotherhood and unity above all else
D.A new Wonder
E.Other
>>47253263
>B.Work on strengthening our religious institutions and the people's faith, a vital part of our core binding principles
>>47253263
C.Foster patriotism, national brotherhood and unity above all else
Last thing we need, is to fall apart into many city states or some shit.
Failing that then i'll back A
>>47253263
B. Bring united in faith would also promote brotherhood.
>>47253263
>B.Work on strengthening our religious institutions and the people's faith, a vital part of our core binding principles
we need real cultural unity
Religion has seen a recent revival thanks to the radio. Pilgrimage has once again gotten widespread as travel is much easier and the Grand Temples are seeing many pilgrims each month. In the major cities of our other continents the bigger temples have also attracted visitors as our people travel more in general. Religious unity has been strengthened.
>Population:155 000 000 (78% white, 15 % chink,2%hibibi, 3% darkskin,2% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 25 600 000 Eyerdar 13 900 000 Veita 13 800 000 Ocras
>Economy:8//10
>Food stockpiles:8/10
>Food production: 9/10
>Political Stability:9/10
>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Construction
>F.Improve Military
>G.Research science
>H.Improve Navy
>I.Improve economy
>J.Regional development
>K.Diplomacy and war
>L.Government and laws
>>47253719
>>G.Research science
Let's make some rockets, I want to go into space
>>47253719
>G.Research science
Ha ha, time for science!Would be nice to not do too much of G this time, there's lots of options for a reasonWe're around 1931 in tech
Pick two areas
A.Industrial (Metallurgy, Factory output and quality, Construction)
B.Physics(Ballistics, nuclear research, other experimental and theoretical stuff)
C.Chemistry(Medicine, chemical warfare, synthetic materials)
D.Electrical engineering
E.Military
F.Naval
G.Transportation(all kinds)
H.Other
>>47253881
>B.Physics(Ballistics, nuclear research, other experimental and theoretical stuff)
>C.Chemistry(Medicine, chemical warfare, synthetic materials)
Let's get some nukes and some better medicine for our people
>>47253881
A.Industrial (Metallurgy, Factory output and quality, Construction)
B.Physics(Ballistics, nuclear research, other experimental and theoretical stuff)
>>47253881
B.
C.
>>47253881
>B.Physics(Ballistics, nuclear research, other experimental and theoretical stuff)
>G.Transportation(all kinds)
Let get rocket propelled aircraft and cool stuff like that.
We've made advances into both physics and chemistry. Nuclear and ballistic research is very difficult and will take years to produce tangible results, but it is well underway now thanks to generous government funding and development of these experimental projects.
We've also developed a new generation of combat gas and a variety of other chemical weapons usable in both major and minor engagements. Medical technology has advanced and synthetic materials are being produced throughout the nation and are seeing greater use.
Science fiction has also emerged as a popular genre in literature.
>Population:158 000 000 (78% white, 15 % chink,2%hibibi, 3% darkskin,2% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 25 900 000 Eyerdar 14 100 000 Veita 14 000 000 Ocras
>Economy:7//10
>Food stockpiles:8/10
>Food production: 9/10
>Political Stability:9/10
>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Construction
>F.Improve Military
>G.Research science
>H.Improve Navy
>I.Improve economy
>J.Regional development
>K.Diplomacy and war
>L.Government and laws
>>47254131
>I.Improve economy
>>47254131
>>I.Improve economy
>>47254131
>C.Improve religion/culture
>Science fiction has also emerged as a popular genre in literature.
Now is time to boost patriotism, By showing off every technical progress we've made and giving huge amounts of funding into writers and artists that believe in our future!
The cultural and technological wonders will make our people gain faith in Us forever.
>>47254199
Honestly, i find it hard to believe it took this long for us to create science fiction as a common theme. I mean, if someone from our empire was to not keep up with technology for even 30-40 years they'd probably find we had preformed miracles.
I mean we have mastered flight, discovered radiation, cultivated penicillin and so much more yet our people have only as of recently began to enjoy considering their future in a fantastical light?
>>47254131
C. Now is a time for scientific progress and a cultural renaissance to follow it.
>>47254280
>Honestly, i find it hard to believe it took this long for us to create science fiction as a common theme
you're wrong then, it will be used for propaganda when we will look up to the stars, our people must admire science not vilify it.
Sci-fi isn't about looking at what science has done but what it might be able to do in our future.
Since we have technological superiority over the whole world we might as well brag about it like the US did when they planted their flag on the moon.
Sci-fi as propaganda checks out.
C it is.
A.Nationalistic/patriotic propaganda
B.Free development, let the arts flourish
C.A new wonder
>>47254323
But instant of just planting the flag on the moon with 60s tech, let's push forward and try to colonizing space.
>>47254350
A.Nationalistic/patriotic propaganda
Sci-fi propaganda
>>47254350
>A.Nationalistic/patriotic propaganda
Let's influence the movement by copious amount of bragging about present and future achievements.
>>47254350
A. Have tales of White people conquering outer space and defending it from alien hordes. It will pay off in the ong run immensely.
>>47254323
I think you misunderstand my post, I am arguing that the writers of our civilisation have for most of our history seen massive shifts occur in technology and in society. Spurred on by the government and private enterprise hand in hand, breaking all priorly held ideas of what is possible. To me it just seems weird when we have shattered so many records in such a rapid period of time yet we had never had a popular series of sci-fi literature.
Admittedly it could have something to do with the stock market crash; people were feeling down and out yet within a year we have recovered more or less perfectly. By all logics that would inspire great hopes for the future in more or less anyone.
>>47254350
B.Free development, let the arts flourish
>>47254350
>B.Free development, let the arts flourish
>>47254410
>To me it just seems weird when we have shattered so many records in such a rapid period of time yet we had never had a popular series of sci-fi literature.
true sci-fi like Bradbury and later Orwell began after 50, when the tv was well established. The speed at which we developed must factor in as well then sci-fi must have developed earlier because have started to rush on tech last thread like crazy.
>By all logics that would inspire great hopes for the future in more or less anyone.
Being pushed down in the mud and then helped by the state who announce great technological progress to help you would certainly do so.
Also on another note we should totally help the chink develop they might turn out to be great allies later.
Rolled 49, 70 = 119 (2d100)
Calling for mixed, leaning towards B.
We've sponsored some state propaganda in the direction of futurism, but we also allow culture to develop freely.
1 Internal Development Roll
2 External
high is good for both
>>47254528
>49
God dammit, we made soap operas and talent shows. God help our nation...
>70
...and everyone else is doing just dandy!
While the arts have been flourishing, we've seen more people get involved with addictive substances of all sorts, impacting productivity negatively in many places. We have no legislature of any sort restricting any substance use, only whatever the local culture deems acceptable or not would change consumption.
Internationally, things have calmed down as both the KE and SA have focused on peaceful development after the war, improving their scientific and economic levels, while still lagging behind us with a couple of years in most regards.
>Population:162 000 000 (78% white, 15 % chink,2%hibibi, 3% darkskin,2% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 26 400 000 Eyerdar 14 400 000 Veita 14 300 000 Ocras
>Economy:7//10
>Food stockpiles:8/10
>Food production: 9/10
>Political Stability:8/10
>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Construction
>F.Improve Military
>G.Research science
>H.Improve Navy
>I.Improve economy
>J.Regional development
>K.Diplomacy and war
>L.Government and laws
>>47254604
>C.Improve religion/culture
Smash it with culture not with laws or else it'll keep existing, make sure every honorable man would take arms against such corrupt act.
>>47254604
>L.Government and laws
I would suggest a series of studies into the effects of these drugs on the subjects health. We will follow this up by enforcing regulations as to what quality the drug must be, at what age you may sell them to people and a measures to prevent the forming of a tobacco lobby or similar such group.
>>47254604
Bulgar I like to change my vote >>47254648
to a mix of L and C
Make studies effects of the drugs and use culture to limit it's use.
>>47254689
inky did you drop you trip?
>>47254689
Forget my trip
>>47254705
Yeah
>>47254604
L AND C
We'll be setting laws, it seems.
Addictive substances:
Traditionally there's been various kinds of alcoholic beverages around for hundreds of years, their creation and consumption is linked to local culture. Naturally, too much alcohol is bad for you and it doesn't take much to get to too much.
Tobacco - since conquering the kafi lands we've had access to tobacco. It is addictive, calming and unhealthy, in most cultures is considered as a gentleman's thing, but in recent years women have also started smoking cigarettes more frequently.
A variety of recreational drugs exist throughout the world. Common features in their consumption is a temporary pleasant feeling, sometimes calming. Some have a past as types of medicine, synthesised medical drugs are being used to this day for various prescribed reasons. Some "softer" recreational drugs are believed to have a lesser health risk, while the "harder" drugs are highly addictive and detrimental to a person's health.
A common trait among substance abusers is lowered productivity, found in various forms for various substances.
What would you propose as a solution? We have no laws regarding any substance use in our Charter of Laws, which is the sole source of Law in our nation.
>>47254795
Firstly, if the drug is to be sold. It may not contain any dangerous additives unless entirely needed. If it is done to save money or for any unaccepted reasons then the company will lose their permit for the production and selling of drugs.
In all schools people will be educated as to how costly drugs are, being told how many years off their life they would lose from X drug. Using information based off of various government trials.
Also make sure to shatter any large, powerful lobbying groups which are funded by drug companies.
Anything else?
Any other suggestions
>>47254795
>Permit consumption of alcohol with a percentage lower than 70% for all man above 16 of age and woman above 18 of age but greatly disapprove of unhealthy high amount and regular consumption.
>ban tobacco
>Allow recreational drug that are tested to not influence decisional capabilities and awareness by a council of doctors and chemists
>Issue a total ban on drugs that don't pass the test, make the testing process clear and embarrassing if failed by the test subject, publish all paper in our press.
>addition of addictive substances is punishable by death or simply the forced and uncompensated take over of any corporation that make such an act.
>extensive propaganda is to be made.
>>47254910
Do this
But let's also make AA (Alcoholics Anonymous)
If you guys don't know what it is, it a program that help people with alcohol addiction also other addictions, it's works
Also we can use this AA to make use of our progaganda and religion
>>47254967
I dislike the methods of alcoholics anonymous. They preach faith in a higher power, rather than self control and family to get through tough times.
>>47254910
>Banning tobacco
>Banning a stupidly economic cashcrop that really doesn't do anything besides smell bad and be addictive.
If you want to murder the fuck out of the economy and give whatever proto-blackmarket exists a massive government loan, go ahead you fucking moron.
That is literally worse than the prohibition.
>>47254910
>>ban tobacco
TIME FOR A PROHIBITION
>>47254967
>But let's also make AA (Alcoholics Anonymous)
Very important idea, shaming alcoholic won't serve us well while helping them to improve and giving them a hand will, We must make sure people can rely on their family and friend to be helped.
>>47254985
>implying tobacco aren't taking the place of our people's crops
>implying russia didn't get fucked because of vodka during their famine
>implying if you can sell something to make the economy better it must be done
It's not because it can be sold that it must be sold.
>>47254985
Question, do you prefer my suggestions;
>>47254892
Speaking of which, Obelix did come up with one good idea. All drugs should have to go through a test to make sure they aren't too dangerous.
>>47255035
Thing about Russia is that most of it is unsuited for most kinds of crops.
Tobacco is a very small amount of our total crop ratio, and we own most of our home continent, most of a second, a good portion of a third, and completely own a fourth.
We have the space.
>>47254979
Well when I was a AA they did preach faith, but also self control and family, also it will be useful in our society since Religion is a big thing in people lives.
Also we can always change some stuff of AA, it's doesn't have to be a exact copy
Through tests we can determine which substances/ drugs can be considered "soft" and which - "hard"
Now on the categories
1.Alcohol
A.Men 16+ Women 18+
B.Everyone 18+
C.Everyone 21+
D.Ban highly-alcoholic drinks
2.Tobacco
A.Everyone 18+
B.Men 18+ Women 20+
C.Ban it
3.Drugs
A.Soft drugs only, 18+
B.Any drugs, 18+
C.Ban recreational drugs
4.Economic standpoint
A.Tax the sale of any addictive substance that is legalized
B.No extra taxes on these sales, that's an easy way to anger people
C.Other
Any other good suggestions also welcome
We really should improve our infrastructure again.
It's falling behind in our great march of progress.
>>47255095
A.
C.
C.
A.
>>47255073
Okay just the fact that the whole "higher power" angle fails terribly with our religion. Seeing as we worship the elements.
>>47255062
This, not to mention as a nation where the government control part of every business. We can always stop them growing too much.
>>47255095
1.Alcohol
B.Everyone 18+
2.Tobacco
A.Everyone 18+
3.Drugs
A.Soft drugs only, 18+
4.Economic standpoint
A.Tax the sale of any addictive substance that is legalized
>>47255095
>A.
>C.
>C.
>A.
>>47255095
>1A
>2C
>3A
>4B
I believe this is the right way to do it, but make sure that by "soft" you mean "soft" like really soft , like anti-stress drugs soft.
Not modern cannabis "soft".
Also ban consumption in public space.
I hate when those fucking smoker walk just in front of you in the street non nonchalantly while you inhale carcinogenic because of those fucks.
>>47255149
In their defence, if they don't do it they will in some cases feel like a cancer patient being told they have aids during liposuction.
>>47255095
B.Everyone 18+
A.Everyone 18+
A.Soft drugs only, 18+
B.No extra taxes on these sales, that's an easy way to anger people
>>47255095
A
C
C
A
>>47255095
A.Men 16+ Women 18+
C.Ban it
C.Ban recreational drugs
B.No extra taxes on these sales, that's an easy way to anger people
>>47255095
B
A
A
B
>>47255095
>A
>C
>C
>A
>>47255095
A.
C.
C.
A.
>>47255095
>B
>A
>A
>B
>>47255171
>In their defence, if they don't do it they will in some cases feel like a cancer patient being told they have aids during liposuction.
They don't have the willpower to control it therefore they shouldn't have done it anyway, they don't care if you have asthma or some other condition, one of my friend who has asthma and cardiac issue went through a crowd of smokers once and then almost fucking passed out. And when I mean a crowd these fucker all stood right at the entrance of our workplace.
Smokers are scums at time and will not care about others, proper etiquette must be enforced or else they'll ruin other people's life along with their own.
Either we ban it as a whole and avoid all the problems with tobacco or we enforce drastic limitations that will be evaded.
Rather interesting seeing all the different opinions on drugs /tg/ holds. Rather impressive in fact when you consider how in past most votes come down to two well defined groups where as in this most people are in between the two extremes
>>47255095
>A.
>C.
>C.
>A.
ACCA wins
A small additional alcohol tax will be added, alcohol may be freely consumed by men ages 16 up and women 18+. Other addictive substances have been banned for now.
>Population:163 000 000 (78% white, 15 % chink,2%hibibi, 3% darkskin,2% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 26 500 000 Eyerdar 14 500 000 Veita 14 400 000 Ocras
>Economy:7//10
>Food stockpiles:8/10
>Food production: 9/10
>Political Stability:8/10
>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Construction
>F.Improve Military
>G.Research science
>H.Improve Navy
>I.Improve economy
>J.Regional development
>K.Diplomacy and war
>L.Government and laws
>>47255303
>I.Improve economy
Obviously we must recover from the crisis we only had recently.
>>47255224
>>47255275
Where did all those people come from?
>>47255286
Considering this is tundra civ lots of people come from /pol/ as well.
>>47255303
>I.Improve economy
Let's make the economy all the way to ten,
>>47255303
>E.Construction
INFRASTRUCTURE!
>>47255303
>I.Improve economy
>>47255278
I admit there are many smokers out there whom are assholes but that might just be coincidence. Thing is though, one of my early memories is of being taken care of for a few hours everyday by a relative of mine whom smoked. This admittedly make me not mind it as much but I would never do it as I know what it does to people.
>>47255330
That is quite literally impossible.
Like, the only way we will EVER reach 10 is if we go AI-controlled economy.
Y'know, like the Matrix before humans over reacted and doomed the planet.
>>47255379
It' happened once before the prime minister was killed and a whole civil war happened
>>47255379
>Like, the only way we will EVER reach 10 is if we go AI-controlled economy.
We already reached level 10 once, I remember it, let's see if we can reach 11 this time around
>>47255400
I think it has happened twice but i struggle to remember what other time it occurred.
>>47255379
We've had a 10/10 economy on at least one occasion, but it doesn't last too long the way we do it.
So, we'll be improving the economy. In what direction?
A.Invest in primary sector(agriculture and resources)
B.Invest in manufacturing
C.Invest in infrastructure
D.Cut taxes and spending, let people keep their own money and spend it on things they want, allow more dynamic growth for the private sector, appeasing liberals and colonials.
E.Other
>>47255400
That Prime Minister was an AI sent from the future.
Like the Terminator, except beneficial, and it was assassinated because the economy became too good.
>>47255418
>C.Invest in infrastructure
>>47255418
>B.Invest in manufacturing
>C.Invest in infrastructure
Theses investment will surely pay off for our next war, if such a thing happen.
>>47255418
>B.Invest in manufacturing
>C.Invest in infrastructure
Let's make some grand highways like the US did in the 50s under Dwight Eisenhower
>>47255418
A.Invest in primary sector(agriculture and resources)
You know trickle down economics, well this is trickle up economics! If the poor are richer, they will consume more, if they consume more while also being more efficient thanks to government oversight then the cost of resources drops, if the cost of resources drops then the bottom line of most businesses drops, leading to richer owners!
>>47255443
We probably should do a military action.
>>47255460
Nah, Grand Railroads.
Less resources over all, greater loads transported.
>>47255418
C & B
I just realized that the White Republic Government has remained in power and unity for over a thousand years.
Holy shit, this started on /pol/ and fulfilled Hitler's promise of a Millennial Empire.
Rolled 87 (1d100)
We'll do B and C
The new government has approved a major effort to improve our infrastructure and the manufacturing sector across the nation. The government will be backing this, private investors may join in what we hope will be a major expansion.
>>47255531
Awh yeah.
>>47255531
Great
>87
>>47255526
I was with this thread since /pol/ I was one of the American anons that rolled on the muddy hill battle against the feens
>>47255526
>>47255531
>87
>Holy shit, this started on /pol/ and fulfilled Hitler's promise of a Millennial Empire.
Who the hell do you think we are? Our empire will extend to more that a thousand millennia into the stars and beyond.
>>47255531
Nice.
While I do think we should do more economy. We should hit military a bit. Don't think we have bomber planes yet. And that +hi altitude. Should resolve more than the small issues.
Is calvary still a thing..?
>>47255526
Now if only we had successfully built a thousand year Reich. Republics and democracies are generally more stable then any sort of monarchy.
>>47255526
Mate, I sit in one of the few nations on this earth to have a city where powers are granted to it from "...time immemorial..." but even i have to admit. This is an impressive feet, considering all of our close calls and such, I feel for the 1500th year of our civilisation, we should construct some sort of structure. To commemorate the fact we have out existed all of the nations to ever threaten us and unified almost the entire world under three nations.
Maybe have it be a series of carved structures resembling a white man, a kaichou and a chink their arms joined together. In the middle between them all; a cornucopia, a tome and a sword.
Great success! The investments have turned out well, unemployment is reaching record lows for the past 50 years, a great infrastructural expansion has been completed and our manufacturing base has grown. Public works have included more and better railroads, urban infrastructure, highways suited to automobiles and things such as new hydroelectric dams.
>Population:165 000 000 (78% white, 15 % chink,2%hibibi, 3% darkskin,2% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 26 800 000 Eyerdar 14 700 000 Veita 14 700 000 Ocras
>Economy:9//10
>Food stockpiles:8/10
>Food production: 9/10
>Political Stability:8/10
>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Construction
>F.Improve Military
>G.Research science
>H.Improve Navy
>I.Improve economy
>J.Regional development
>K.Diplomacy and war
>L.Government and laws
>>47255670
>>47255649
The best part is that our level of technology and infrastructure built up over the ages has allowed us to maintain a very strong framework without having to Balkanize when we grew to encompass several continents.
>>47255708
>G.Research science
military and navy tech is overdue right now!
>>47255708
>J.Regional development
Let's bring our colonies up to the standards of the mainland, they may be lagging behind.
Either that or
>F.Improve Military
>>47255708
J. Rebuild the ruins of Vajni.
>>47255708
F
>>47255734
So pick the option that is directly related to it.
>>47255708
>H.Improve Navy
>>47255738
In terms of regional development, the South is actually doing well. Southern Eyerdar, Ocras and Veita have been prosperous for a long time now, private enterprise is strongest there. If there are less-developed regions in our nation those would be parts of Northern Eyerdar and Eastern Aymsland.
>>47255708
>>47255758
well then remove>>47255734
And put F as my vote
>>47255708
>>F.Improve Military
Improve our military if that doesn't win count my vote to the H Navy
>>47255708
>>H.Improve Navy
Time to expand the navy, it seems!Current naval tech is 1920s somewhere
Current stats
>Navy:4 dreadnoughts,13 battleships,35 cruisers,85 destroyers,30 submarines;
improving seaplanes ,quality sailors, Stormborn, the Admiralty
Pick two things to improve
A.Modernising our older ships
B.Our high-seas fleet - maximum firepower, kings of the sea!
C.Build moderate amounts of ships of all kinds
D.Focus on lighter ships and submarines
E.Improve our naval officers and sailors
F.Naval aviation
>>47255822
>F.Naval aviation
>B.Our high-seas fleet - maximum firepower, kings of the sea!
Let's go plane carrier.
>>47255822
>F.Naval aviation
>B.Our high-seas fleet - maximum firepower, kings of the sea!
>>47255822
F.Naval aviation
D.Focus on lighter ships and submarines
>>47255822
A AND F
>>47255822
A & F
>>47255822
B.
C.
>>47255822
>A.Modernising our older ships
F.Naval aviation
Thanks to our physics research we might be able to get rocket propelled aircraft for the next war.
But here's the question what kind of weapons should we we name Atanius?
Also what should we name each weapon?
please give suggestion guys:
>fighter aircrafts
i'm think Windguided since wind is literally the name of the air god.
>bomber aircrafts
>tanks
>anti-tank tank
>artillery
>high tech weapon
We should name our first atomic bomb Feuer's fist
>light ships
>dreadnoughts
Voda's pride is a name to be given to our biggest ship.
>firearms
B and F it is
The Kaichou have been ahead of us in naval designs recently. They were the first to launch a plane from the top of a ship. Such experiments were performed by our Admiralty as well, but two years ago the Kaichou completed their frist purpose-built aircraft carrier ship. Aside from working on modernising our aging fleet, we've also improved our naval aviation and built our own aircraft carrier. Civic aviation has advanced without much need for government interference after the War, developing faster, stronger and more comfortable ships with closed cabins. Triplanes are now considered mostly obsolete and most recent designs have been exclusively closed-cabin monoplanes. We've accepted new seaplanes into our navy and have worked better on incorporating air power into it.
>Population:168 000 000 (78% white, 15 % chink,2%hibibi, 3% darkskin,2% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 27 000 000 Eyerdar 14 800 000 Veita 14 900 000 Ocras
>Economy:9//10
>Food stockpiles:8/10
>Food production: 8/10
>Political Stability:8/10
>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Construction
>F.Improve Military
>G.Research science
>H.Improve Navy
>I.Improve economy
>J.Regional development
>K.Diplomacy and war
>L.Government and laws
>>47255990
>F.Improve Military
>>47255990
>F.Improve Military
>>47255990
>F.Improve Military
let's close the military tech gap.
>>47255990
J. Rebuild and colonize Vajni.
>>47255990
>F.Improve Military
Pretty clear vote...
Our millitary is at about the same level as the Kaichou, though they've invested more into their airforce recently, phasing out older aircraft.
Our soldiers are armed with bolt-action rifles, revolvers, pistols, hand grenades, static machine guns and some submachine guns. We have second-generation tanks, more mobile than the old landships and field guns capable of firing at shorter ranges as well as larger artillery pieces.Our aviation is made up mostly of biplane fighters and bombers. Militia acts as a reserve that fills in all parts of the army as necessary.
Pick two areas to improve
A.Small arms and infantry
B.Land vehicles
C.Airforce
D.Heavy armaments
E.Military command and special forces
>>47256101
A.Small arms and infantry
E.Military command and special forces
>>47256101
C.Airforce
D.Heavy armaments
Infantry wins battles, tanks win offences and artillery wins wars, Aircraft are just advanced artillery.
>>47256101
>A.Small arms and infantry
>C.Airforce
>>47256101
B.
D.
>>47256101
>A.Small arms and infantry
>C.Airforce
>>47256101
>Our millitary is at about the same level as the Kaichou
just as a question how is SA doing, is their tech up to speed or could we strike some deal for a stronger alliance?
>>47256219
They've always been lagging a few years behind us and the Kaichou. As the smallest and least powerful of the three nations in the Axis, they're usually catching up to the other two and only occasionally are the ones who make something new. One area in which they've developed further than the others is mechanization - having established a manufacturing base that produces lots of cheap automobiles, their armies are the most mechanized in terms of transport of the three nations.
We've improved infantry equipment, developing a new generation of bolt-action rifles for medium and long ranges and a more versatile submachine gun as well as new pistols and hand grenades that are becoming standart issue for our infantry. Machine guns in particular have evolved, developing into light, medium and heavy variants.
We've also invested in improving our aviation. The traditional biplanes have largely been replaced by the new, all-metal monoplanes. Most fighter planes are lighter and with an open cabin, while heavier aircraft feature a closed cabin.
>Population:170 000 000 (78% white, 15 % chink,2%hibibi, 3% darkskin,2% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 27 300 000 Eyerdar 15 000 000 Veita 15 000 000 Ocras
>Economy:9//10
>Food stockpiles:8/10
>Food production: 8/10
>Political Stability:8/10
>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Construction
>F.Improve Military
>G.Research science
>H.Improve Navy
>I.Improve economy
>J.Regional development
>K.Diplomacy and war
>L.Government and laws
>>47256362
>F.Improve Military
Once or twice more and I feel we will be sufficiently superior
>>47256362
>F.Improve Military
Got to be mechanization as well
>>47256362
>F.Improve Military
We need assault rifles and rocket planes.
Also we should go full electrical engineering again afterward, if we can get an ENIAC type computer research capabilities will allow us to do spacial research and therefore maybe negate the need of a war by giving us ICBMs.
The best way to prevent a war is by greatly outclassing your enemy.
>>47256449
I feel we should just develop something like a more effective version of a V2, maybe by making it release a gas or biological weapon over the target instead of a explosive warhead...
Which reminds me, we have no defensive or offensive biological research programs! This is ignoring the great utility of such things in combat and war. We can make weapons which cause people to enter paralysis for a time, make them blind, deaf or just kill them.
Alternatively, yeah, I.C.B.M's though seeing as we have control of some land on every continent we could really just rely on shorter ranged missiles.
>>47256449
This
More military developments!
Pick two areas to improve
A.Small arms and infantry
B.Land vehicles(mechanization)
C.Airforce
D.Heavy armaments(artillery and combat armor)
E.Military command and special forces
We've abandoned the super-heavy landships of old in favor of lighter tanks we use at present.
>>47256566
>D.Heavy armaments(artillery and combat armor)
>B.Land vehicles(mechanization)
>>47256566
B
D
>>47256566
>A.Small arms and infantry
>B.Land vehicles(mechanization)
>We've abandoned the super-heavy landships
let's change this
>>47256566
D.Heavy armaments(artillery and combat armor)
C.Airforce
The infantries job is to hold the line, the tanks to breach the line and the planes to assist where they can while stopping they enemy doing the same.
>>47256566
B.
D.
>>47256566
A & B
>>47256602
Then shouldn't you vote Down. Combat armor and all?
>>47256667
the truth is that combat armor is far to hard to produce for total wars but assault rifles aren't, we already have submachine-guns at the level of the MP40 let's go a step further and get real weapons of war.
>>47256566
D and e. Crazy artillery and special units to pinpoint targets for them.
B and D win
We've got a strong manufacturing base that produces automobiles - the military-industrial complex has begun to expand into that area for the production of third-generation tanks. They are faster and stronger than the second-generation, their primary role is as infantry support. We've also improved the level of mechanization, using more cars and trucks for transport.
>Population:171 000 000 (78% white, 15 % chink,2%hibibi, 3% darkskin,2% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 27 400 000 Eyerdar 15 100 000 Veita 15 000 000 Ocras
>Economy:8//10
>Food stockpiles:8/10
>Food production: 8/10
>Political Stability:8/10
>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Construction
>F.Improve Military
>G.Research science
>H.Improve Navy
>I.Improve economy
>J.Regional development
>K.Diplomacy and war
>L.Government and laws
>>47256780
>G.Research science
let's get more tech
>>47256780
>>F.Improve Military
>>47256780
E. Inter continental railway time.
>>47256780
G. We need rockets for future programs.
>>47256780
>G.Research science
Let's make rockets to go into space
>>47256780
>G.Research science
Last turn for tonight. Science, again.
A.Industrial
B.Physics
C.Chemistry
D.Electrical engineering
E.Military
F.Naval
G.Transportation
H.Other
>>47256945
>B.Physics
>C.Chemistry
>>47256945
>B.Physics
>C.Chemistry
>>47256945
B.
D.
>>47256945
B and F.
>>47256945
D.Electrical engineering
B.Physics
>>47257043
Switching to B and D to solve the tie i guess.
Is thread dead or are we just waiting for a tie breaking vote?
Cause if so i would suggest that we roll a 1d3 die to break the tie between D, F and C. Seeing as B is getting through.
>>47257295
i already switched to break the tie don't worry.
Unless somebody switch to unbreak the tie B and D should win.
>>47256945
>A.
>D
>tfw i've been here since w came through the valley, and can't even keep up with these theads anymore
I feel old
Rocketry experimentation has progressed in the last three years. In Ocras, aeroengineers are also experimenting with rocket-powered aircraft, while in Aymsland experiments for new generations of combat rockets are underway. In the field of electric engineering, we've developed the first working radar system. Through its use we can spot distant objects regardless of sight - especially useful for early warning against aircraft.
I need to sleep now and do fucking normie stuff tomorrow reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Maybe I'll even have time for the next thread. Ill post on twitter.com/connanister
So, besides the obvious objectives of a space program, what are our goals; get to the moon, create a space station,install space nukes on said stationor just to create a network of satellites to allow for the creation of a modern society?
>>47257350
Nice to see you again mind you, you've missed a fair bit. Need to be caught up or have you read the archives?
>>47257398
I've read the archives. But I always end up missing these threads. Would be a godsend to just move this to /qst/ so we can get more players and more or less a proper board to post on
>>47257413
Nope, on all the levels of my being, from the sub-atomic to the spiritual, no. We are not meant for that place technically speaking though many still push us there but if we move i shall follow.
>>47257382
here is a multi-step plan.
>Step 1 (5 next year):
put a rocket at a high altitude, not orbit yet, clearly this will take time, also develop nuclear weapon or highly potent chemical/biological weapons (just try to create bacterias immune to most antibiotics we know).
This will ensure that if a war break out, we'll be able to attack their homeland easily.
>Step 2 (maybe 10 to 15 years):
Get a satellite in orbit, brag about it and do lots of Science (tm).
Try to get a man up there as well or at least an animal at first, KE will likely try to follow the space race.
afterward we can focus and multiple man missions such as two man crew orbit research.
>step 3:
go to the nearest planet/natural satellite of our planet.If we have a moon we should go there for sure, at first an impactor then an orbiter then a manned vessel that will land.
the most important part is that KE must not be the first to archive this.
>step 4:
keep it up research greatly in all fields and look up to the nearest planet that's somewhat habitable and send material up there.Also at this point if we won the moon race we can probably agree on a SA/KE/WR space station that will be used for research and refueling.
>>47257555
I have a modification, depending on how we advance we could create a series of crew free miners to head to, i am assuming there is one in this system, some asteroids and bring useful ones back in orbit around our home-world.
There they can the be processed for useful minerals and forthe creation of hollowed asteroids filled with farms and shitany potential fuel sources.
Imagine it, thousands of hollowed out asteroids above our moon and planet. Filled with our people and weapons pointed at any nation belowor above...
>>47257638
Hollowed asteroids are an idea but it would be too long for a manned mission and too costly for a craft using only chemical engines, I'd advise the use of such mission with an unmanned craft using ion thrusters or some other kind of electric propulsion.
It's definitely a good idea for long term mission, but the construction of an asteroid-station would require to have station in the first place as a home for the workers and to ship high amounts of supply, a costly and ambitious project but well rewarded.
It could be step 5 or 6 but it will be costly in time (unmanned craft using electric propulsion to haul tons of rock in space isn't the fastest).
Perhaps Prometheus project-like nuclear energy could most likely power a magnetoplasmadynamic thruster which use electricity as well and would likely be able to archive a better speed for more time and getting rid of it would be very easy for decommission by simply crashing the very radioactive and dangerous craft into the sun.
It's becoming a better idea every second i think about it.
>>47257442
I don't understand why some people are so against the idea.
There is now a new board dedicated to what you do. Some people don't want quests here, while it makes no sense since it is table top related. Why wouldn't anyone want to go to a board that has more features to help with civ's. And gets rid of problems like same fagging. Has larger posts so more characters per post.
But I digress.
>>47257798
I don't disagree that large parts of that board are good, i still take part in quests that occur there but I am against it on principle; it was made by a mod with no knowledge, it was praised by people whom hate civ, quest, CYOA and so much board games. Not to mention I am of the opinion that should all the other types of board game leave that board then that entire board will be, not dead but incredibly slow. A fate worse than death, as if the board died they might rid us of such a mill-stone around our neck but they wouldn't if the board is even barely functional.
>>47257798
well it would be kinda sad to civ threads with only 216 posts there knowing the autosage limit there is 750 so bulgar would have to up his game a lot or get a ton more of voters.
OP, are you there man?
>>47257995
he's probably asleep right now
>>47258013
A shame, sweet dreams little OP.
