I'm sorry, i only had a general image with chicken edition.
>Rules databases
https://mega.co.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ
https://kat.cr/warhammer-40k-pdf-library-t9575373.html
>FAQs
http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Rules-Errata
>40k 7th edition quick reference sheet(s)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4104995/Games/7edRef_V7.pdf
>Forgeworld Book index
http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Forge_World_and_Apocalypse_Rules_Index
>White Dwarves
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/tx4hcy4u487pv/WD
>Novels (Working link as of 02/02/2016)
https://mega.nz/#F!wx4BiKhD!YhnAf1BqSmAB8dO6xDM56Q
First for the Crusade
Which which factions have the best air forces? Rate all the flyers available from best to worst.
Anyone know where i can find the campaign details for the Eye of Terror event or the Medusa campaign? Or any other GW campaign events? I heard some crazy shit like Shadowsun having a sister.
ave dominus nox desu senpai
>>47245566
Orks definitely have the most
As for best thats probably either Marines or Eldar
>>47245501
If the imperial assassins had access to relics what rules would they have?
Let's say one per temple.
>>47245583
Damm I love the ork planes why they have to be so shitty or oop
>Pic related
There's no flier capable to rival such beauty.
>>47245591
>Vindicare
>Doesnt need line of sight to shoot
>Callidus
>Can go into reserve again at any time, and may redeploy as per Polymorphine from reserve next turn
>Culexus
>Can make a unit within 6" freeze for a turn. They cannot perform any action in their turn
>Eversor
>AP2 CCW. On a 6 to hit causes 2 additional hits.
>>47245566
Barracuda, Nightwing, and Thunderbolt
>>47245591
technically all of their equipment would be considered relics
exitus weapons/spy mask
c'tan phase blade/neural shredder/polymorphine
animus speculum/etherium
executioner pistol/frenzon/sentinel array
like, they're all [Temple Assassin], just with different sets of relic gear. Kinda like how in 2nd edition you had a basic [Assassin] that could grab whatever wargear it wanted.
>>47245566
Best are
>Crimson Hunter
>Vulture
>New SM flyer
>Barracuda
>Croissant
Worst are
>Blitza Bommer
>Tau FLyers
>Dark Eldar flyers
Everything else just lands in the middle somewhere
>>47245566
Crunch-wise, Eldar win. Crimson hunters are great fighter craft. Hemlocks are good for ground assaults against anything thanks to psychic powers and the D.
>>47245566
Funny enough, I defeated a Marine's Stormhawk with my Sunshark Bomber in dogfighting.
>>47245583
>Orks definitely have the most
no one is going to have more than the imps, man
>>47245781
Orks have 8 different flyers
>Dakkajet
>Burna Bommer
>Blitza bommer
>Wazbom
>Attack Fighta
>Fighta Bommer
>Bommer
>Blasta Bommer
>>47245566
all the best everything is Eldar.
...Anonymous
05/14/16(Sat)08:07:44 No.47245766
>>47245211 #
The only thing he needs to be good is some form of ap2 for characters and rerolls for his attacks so he can actually chop up chaff units.
Give his neuro gauntlet rending, make his power-sword master crafted then give the assassin himself rage and hatred. Rage doesn't do anything it's just there for fluff.
>>47245234 #
>smash
That would be way too strong on him, can you imagine what he would be like with smash?
>>47245780
Not too surprising. The Interceptor Drones are pretty sweet, plus the thing has a networked Markerlight and Missiles to work with.
The Sunshark has always been a solid fightercraft.
>>47245780
Interceptor drones are great anti-air.
>>47245501
Remove Chickin
>>47245805
Imperial Navy alone has at least ten.
Avenger
Thunderbolt
Lightning (Lightning Strike)
Marauder Bomber
Marauder Destroyer
Valkyrie
Vendetta
Vulture
Arvus Lighter
Aquila Lander
And that's BEFORE you add in all the space marine ones.
Why is everything Orks get severely overpriced?
Every gun is priced as if a Space marine were going to use it, not a BS2 ork
>>47245826
PHONES A SHIT
>>47245918
laughingImperialGuard.jpg
>>47245918
why is a 5+ invulnerable for any vehicle you have only 15 points for eldar?
>>47245836
They're ok.
>>47245943
Why is Daemonic Possession 30 Points for a Typhon if all it does is reduce the Typhon's Ballistic Skill?
would mech guard with 2-3 wyverns, a punisher vulture, valk, and a stormsword be cunty in a not super competitive meta?
>>47246068
depends on the points range.
>>47246078
1850
>>47246068
What do other people's lists look like? If we're talking "Boyz, Fexes, and Berserkers: The Meta," then yeah, that's pretty cunty.
>>47246081
Nah.
Might wanna warn the opponent you're using a Superheavy though, just to be sporting.
>>47246068
>2-3 wyverns
>not super competitive meta
fair warning, but wyverns are not very fun in any sort of casual setting
>>47246102
its not that casual, we have a couple kinda powergamey dudes, thunderstar and KDK with all the power choices, then a guy who alternates between steel legion, cancercrons and knights. several ork playrs of varying levels and a dark angels guy i havent played much, off the top of my head.
its not tournament time all the time but its not fun n fluffy either
>>47245826
>smash
>That would be way too strong on him, can you imagine what he would be like with smash?
Yes, I know, that's why I want smash, I want to WRYYYYYYYY the shit out of everyone.
Not that they would ever get in range to do it, but could a priest and three crusaders tie up a knight's in assault for two turns? 3++ rerollable seems like something that loses mostly to weight of dice.
>>47246163
potentially, but the risk of both stomps and 6's for D makes it pretty swingy
>>47246163
>smash
The knight have D attacks plus stomp, one lucky 6 and all your guys are gone with no chance of survival.
Someone on an earlier thread said that if I wanted to have a C'tan shard looking like the void dragon I should use a mortarch. Which one should I use if I want to do so?
>>47246200
Also, what should I do with the extra riderstuffs, along with the little spooky ghosts?
>>47246200
The one you like, it doesn't matter all the montarchs come in the same box.
>>47246200
a morghast would look better in my opinion
>>47246173
>>47246186
I guess hoping a 70 point unit could survive 3d3 stomps without a single 6 is a bit much.
Too bad making the squad bigger doesn't actually improve its survability any.
>>47245709
>Dark Eldar flyers
The Razorwing isn't bad at all. At 130 points base it can come in, drop four large blast markers on an annoying infantry blob, then spend the rest of the game whittling down other squads with its Disintegrators. Or bring it up to 140 points and it can use its Dark Lances to pick off vehicles or harass other flyers, even if it just forces them to Jink. It's vulnerable to Interceptor fire, yes, but so is every AV10 aircraft in the game.
>>47246250
Open to suggestions and changes at the moment since I haven't gotten him yet, why do you think morghasts would be better?Why are sigmar skeleton models so sexy?
>>47246221
Toss it on a bits site, of course.
Or give the spooky ghosts to a Crimson Slaughter player.
>>47246329
>why do you think morghasts would be better?
won't have to fuck around with the saddle area
cooler head
comes with two
still less expensive than a single mortarch
Of course Eldar would have the best benefits from Death from the Skies.
I'm fucking surprised Eldar didn't somehow benefit from Angels of Death too in some random way, despite the fact that it was marine only.
What's currently the weakest race, i.e. the race with the fewest viable builds?
>>47246444
Eldar are Allies of Convenience with Marines. They could theoretically pick up an Allied Librarius Conclave and use a bunch of Geomancy librarians to try and roll Shifting Worldscape, as well as provide extra Warp Charges
>>47246475
CSM or Orks.
Counting build numbers is stupid as fuck. CSM, SoB, and Tau all have only one viable build, for example. But I think it's pretty obvious Tau isn't hurt by this while CSM is even worse than SoB.
>>47246475
Orks are the weakest. They lack any sort of good anti-armor, along with a multitude of other gaps.
>>47246484
>Tau
>One viable build
Is that what you call having a bunch of great units in every slot?
Even if you're talking maximum cheese you've still got the Optimized Stealth Cadre and Riptide Wings as separate things. Add Crisis Suits and Buffmanders to taste.
Again, that's competitive level though. An army of nothing but Firewarriors would still probably mop the floor with an Ork list.
>>47246508
Nobody at GTs runs anything but Stormsurges and Riptide Wing. If you're going to include shitty Tau builds just because Tau are overpowered in general, you might as well say every army except 1 or 2 has tons of "viable" builds, including Orks (hurr Nob Bikers, Green Tide, Blitz Brigade, CAD, etc).
>>47246508
you don't know what viable means mate
>>47245573
IDK if that Black Library mega is still up, but IIRC it had the campaign books for 13th Black Crusade and Medusa campaigns
>>47246561
That it's capable of actually functioning?
If you're going to say that Tau only have 1 viable build because people only bring 1 list to tournaments, then Chaos Marines have 0 viable builds.
Just curious, how viable is a Razorshark Strikefighter with Advanced Targeting System for assassination?
>>47246553
If you're going to include the best CSM or SOB list as 'viable', then I would certainly say that any Tau list that is as good as those is also 'viable'
A list doesn't stop being viable just because it isn't the most optimal for an army.
>>47246581
>chaos marines have 0 viable builds
But that's true.
>>47246614
Then tell that to >>47246484
>>47246553
you say this and yet you claim csm and orks have 1 viable build as well. They have no viable builds then.
>>47246408
Alright. I'll look between them more to decide eventually, thanks for your input.
>>47246601
>How viable
Not particularly.
>>47246762
It seems like the only vehicle that can take advantage of the Advanced Targeting System besides Skyray.
>>47246789
It's cheaper to use a Ghostkeel for that role.
>>47246789
Heavy Burst Cannon Riptide.
>>47246959
I said vehicle. I know that for suits the thing is ridiculous chep.
Anyone know if the Tactical Objectives app has the Waagh Ghazkhull Objectives?
got a question for you nerds, when playing maelstrom missions, do you shuffle achieved objectives back into your deck or leave them separate? a couple local guys are claiming you need to shuffle the cards back in to keep it the same statistically as rolling dice for your tactical objectives
>>47247134
I mean technically they aren't wrong, now that you mention it.
>>47247134
Seeing as the rulebook ask you to write a list of all the possible objectives and cross them out as they are achieves, re-rolling later results of the same...
>>47246553
>including Orks (hurr Nob Bikers, Green Tide, Blitz Brigade, CAD, etc).
>Nob Bikers
It is no longer 4th ed Anon. Nob Bikers are garbage.
>Green Tide
What's that?
>Blitz Brigade
Fun build. Not remotely competitive. FAQ rules no first turn charge with it, putting the final nail in the coffin.
>>47247248
>>Green Tide
>
>What's that?
Have an upcoming "beginners" tournament, 750pts, not sure what to run. Looking to buy a new army to get back into 40k and looking for advice one what to run.
Tournament limitations:
1 HQ or Lord of War
1 Elites
1 Troops
1 Fast Attack
1 Heavy Support
0-1 Auxilary (any ONE of the following : Elites, Troops, Fast Attack, Heavy Support, Fortification)
NO Super Heavies, Gargantuan Creatures, Mighty Bulwarks or Fortification Networks.
Also has to be "friendly" enough not the be veto'd by the TO's, but competitive enough to have a chance.
>>47247324
You're allowed to use out of production formations but you're not allowed to used out dated rules.
War gazzy got updated and green tide was purposely removed.
>>47247356
Not what it says.
If we gonna RAWfag, we gonna RAWfag hardstyle.
Seeing as there's no new version of the Green tide formation, it's not out-dated just longer available, so the ruling applies to it.
>>47247348
>one of each slot, maybe 2
that is some real cuck shit
>>47245566
>best visuals
Tau, by way of Barracuda (the old one, but the new one is pretty decent, too); Dark Eldar close behind.
>worst visuals
Tau, in the form of the Razorshark/Sunshark; Space Wolves are a close second.
>best rules
Probably a tie between Space Marines, Eldar and Tau.
>worst rules
Orks. Space Wolves are also kinda shit.
>>47247348
>750pts, not sure what to run. Looking to buy a new army to get back into 40k and looking for advice one what to run.
pick a get started set that grabs your eye and build off of that
>>47247348
>1 troop
>>47247348
if it's a beginner's tournament just run what fucking ever. so pick your favourite force.
>>47247384
Yeah, I know, it's clear they want people to buy more, but I'll be happy to make a 750 army, they have 3 of these tournaments a year
>>47247348
Chaos daemons:
Greater daemon of your choice
Pink horrors
Second troops of your choice
Screamers/plague drones
Skull cannon of khorne/Soul grinder
>>47247409
Limits the scatspam, if done you can't also spam warp spiders.
>>47247423
That's what I mean by "beginners", they phrase it like that so they can veto lists they don't like, but its more competitive than they make it out to be.
>>47247348
dark eldar
archon, 2 slyyth/medusae venom
2 units of kabbies, 1 blaster each, venom
6 reavers, 2 cluster caltrops
ravager, lances, night shield
get ready to fuck people straight in the face, they won't see it coming
>>47247396
>>best visuals
>Tau, by way of Barracuda (the old one, but the new one is pretty decent, too); Dark Eldar close behind.
>>47247348
>NO Super Heavies, Gargantuan Creatures, Mighty Bulwarks or Fortification Networks.
hi where do they run tournaments like this
>>47247248
>It is no longer 4th ed Anon. Nob Bikers are garbage.
They only were a thing for the tail of 4th. They existed into 5th and were good in very early 5th - but soon the meta made sure they weren't much chop regardless.
>>47247430
I always forget Eldar bikes are troops.
Damn Eldar ruining everything.
>>47247471
Wherever enough people decide to.
>>47245805
deffkoptas? and all kind of looted shit?
>>47247445
>1 Troops
>2 units of kabbies
>>47247558
deffkoptas are skimmers, as are warkoptas
I love me some knights, but I kinda feel like this bastard is too large. He dosen't gel with the other knights at all, even the already lanky cerastus stands out in a household, this fucker is taller than a goddamn warhound!
>>47246475
Orks currently have zero viable builds, so Orks.
>>47247619
Knights are already far too big.
If somebody puts that thing on a table I'm walking away.
>>47247619
That's out of scale buddy, we've seen the models next to one another and it's shorter than a Cerastus.
Post your Bicyle Repairmen.
>>47247619
Is that supposed to be a Baron or something?
>>47247619
I don't get how forge world makes a profit on these huge things, the titans and such.
how are they even practical to play with when you need 2 hands to lift them?
They should bring back epic for this huge shit and keep 40k at a sane scale.
>>47247700
>>47247739
THAT'S NOT
IN SCALE
fuck you people are dumb.
>>47247766
Yes obviously, that's why I asked if it was a Baron you numb fuck.
>>47247707
Nope, they scaled it up since the old preview. It does no longer use the plastic kit as a baseline.
Compare to the Ta'unar below it and the Mastodon next to it, if you don't believe me.
Will Orks ever get a model update?
A few of our units are out of production and some of them are decades old.
I want the Tau treatment, damnit. Bring back Ward for one last book.
>>47247777
Barons are a detachment bonus, not a special mech.
Magnus did nothing wrong
>>47247788
Back in the old days of epic a Baron was a big round knight that had all long range weapons. I know FW haven't translated everything but this seems to be what they're going for.
>>47247766
That picture is from the last event, you disingenous fuckwad, they since went back to the drawing board. It's bigger than the tau walker now.
>>47247798
>no beard
Is Russ the least manly space wolf?
>>47247810
>disingenous
But that's literally the opposite of what he is.
>>47247717
>>47247810
>>47247798
>>47247783
Forgeworld please stop
Go back to making supplements with new troops choices
>>47247888
Just finish updating your existing shit first.
>>47247924
>IA:8 is discontinued and Forgeworld doesn't even consider the rules to be still viable
>Instead of re-writing the book, or even just issuing a pdf update, they just continue to produce HH, Eldar and Tau.
>Next book will be fucking Ad Mech
Once upon a time I would have defended Forgeworld to the death but ever since HH they've been going steadily downhill.
>>47247924
I can't use my xiphon interceptor :'(even though I wasn't using it anyways
>>47247813
>no beard
russ has never had a beard
>>47247888
Khorne, it's no worse than what GW's doing.
>>47248138
It's no better either
Need some help deciding how to kit out my sword brothers for my CC crusaders.
Right now they have a storm bolter and a lightning claw. (initiate has a power axe) I wanted to design them for challenges, and the unit is meant for killing scrubs in a gun line. So far the lighting claw has been helpful in most instances, but when he faces a target with high armor and T it does not do much. Sometimes my opponent will have a guy like that hidden in a unit of scrubs or close enough to get a challenge. I want to give him an extra attack with a power sword and also to make him cheaper. But I also wanted to give him a fist or a thunder hammer, but both cost a lot and if he dies before he can get a swing off, its pointless. I know if I fight army's with high Int like eldar, it does not matter. but as for everyone else or for just generally equipping him, wat do?
>>47248344
Do you expect to use your crusaders to kill terminators and monstrous creatures?
>>47248434
No, as I said they are meant for killing scrub infantry. But there is always the chance that someone put an IC in a squad thats hard to kill.
So i thought of buying a Forgeworld mechanicum tank, but im not sure if they have any rules in 40k, is there an codex/book which i couldget the pdf for
And btw WHY DONT THE ADEPTUS MECHANICUS HAVE MORE TANKS
>>47247798
Can't wait for them to finish all Primarchs so they can move to daemon Primarchs. I need the Red Angel for my army damn it!
>>47248448
Well personally I wouldn't near triple the points cost for a fist on a 1w model.
Better to focus on his strengths and use dedicated units for the job.
I'd prefer a sword to a claw as well, but that as much a matter of taste as aversion to taking unpaired specialist weapons.
What's standard equipment for Wraiths? Whip coils?
>>47248467
It depends on IA14, and how much of the red book Taghmata they port into 40k
>>47248487
I want Custodes.
>>47248527
Yeah whip coils are the best options, the others are just for laughs.
>>47248517
Thats what I was thinking too. and the power sword would give him an extra attack.
>>47248527
CCW basic, coils are a 3 pt upgrade
>>47248467
>im not sure if they have any rules in 40k
They don't, but they should get some in IA14.
You can also run a 30k mechanicum list against 40k lists with you opponents consent, they're decently balanced. You can get the 30k mechancium red book from the /HHG/ op.
>>47248556
And fit the BT theme.
Would a Second Age of Strife protect humanity from extinction?
>>47248532
>>47248572
Im sorry but what do you mean with IA14?
>>47248546
But you already have them:^)
>>47248556
You could give him a power maul for extra opportunity to wound or cause instant death if you're not expecting too much 3+ saves. +2S AP4 mashes most armies without +3. Instant Death on T3 and wounds T4 on 2+.
>>47248613
Is that a sig-marine
>>47248632
sounds good I will keep that in mind, thanks
>>47248661
Largely
>>47248553
Yeah I figured. Are they a must-have, or is it better to just run them as-is?
>>47248593
My bad IA = Imperial Armor, which are forgeworld campaign source books that essentially function as expansions.
It's their 14th one. The numbering convention doesn't really make sense any more, but hey it's something.
>>47248703
There's no reason not to take them, 3 points for +3 Int is a steal
>no 30k
>no flyers
>no superheavies
>no GMCs
>nothing with a D weapon
The list of banned models grows ever larger
Meanwhile CSM, Orks, Tyranids have all been shit for multiple editions (save for a brief period of helldrake / FMC spam being strong)
>at some point since I last posted duplicate file rules changed massively
fugg
>>47248703
Nearly a must-have, tiny piercetag for solid advantage.
>>47248706
>The numbering convention doesn't really make sense any more
Only because they insisted on compressing Vraks.
Did the original versions of Vraks have more army lists? This version just has Death Korps and Renegades.
>>47248713
>>47248725
Gotcha, thanks for the help.
>>47248717
Oh man, if they're including the Thanatar I hope the Domitar makes it.
I have a converted Kastellan built from 1.5 regular ones that's way too tall and bulky, but'd make a great Domitar variant.
>>47248583
No?
They barely survived the first one, and that was:
>pre-Horus
>pre-Tyranid
>pre-Tau (I'm assuming the Tau would be unaffected by warp storms since they don't use the warp at all but that could be a bad assumption)
>at the tail end of a period of unparalleled technological advancement
>saw the rise of the Emperor and development of the Astartes
A second one would just accelerate their ass-kicking by everyone but Eldar, presumably.
Actually, what effect do Tyranids have on warp storms? And what do Orks use for FTL?
>>47248717
Does this mean battle automata are actually in the book?
Prior rumors had said everything but automata and volkite.
>>47247961
As a Sisters player who relied on an Avenger, I feel your pain.
Hopefully they A) update their shit and B) don't 'forget' that Sisters get access to some of it...
>>47248583
What are you smoking? A Second Age of Strife would bring an end to humanity.
>>47248852
I'm worried about Ursarax: They aren't automata, but they have a chest mounted volkite melee weapon thing.
As a melee-obsessed player, I need Jump Cyborgs with Lightning Claws in my life.
Why does everyone Imperium faction have different shit
Some techpriest needs to fucking standardize all these vehicles and walkers
>>47248888
Oh fuck, I hadn't even considered that.
>>47248852
Automata are mentioned as animalistic relics in the cult mechanicus book. Presumably they're still floating around in limited numbers just like the leviathan dreads, storm eagles, baneblades etc for the rest of the imperial stuff.
The lines get a little blurry with mechanicum though, as folks turned a blind eye to "tech heresy" during the heresy, as we know it in 40k. I wouldn't expect any paragons of metal lol
>>47248888also checked
Why didn't they go out of their way to say 30k armies are valid 40k armies? Seems like a poor business decision.
>>47248583
Only if they embrace the Greater Good.
>>47248938
NO VOLKITES
YOU CAN'T HAVE THE VOLKITES
THEY'RE OURS
"We're giving the Tech Priest Dominus a Volkite"
AAAAAAAA FINE BUT THAT'S IT, YOU GET ONE. NO MORE.
>>47248958
Explain this meme
>>47248958
The ordinatus also gets volkite that can be taken in 40k.
Well shit, if they've doubled the size of the Knight Porphyrion it'd better not have the same rules as it's experimental ones with only +1 hull point and +1 armour value over a normal Knight.
Thing is scout titan sized.
...Which is also kinda dumb? I mean, Knights are meant to be the bridge between regular scale shit and full titans, not full titans themselves.
>>47248993
Forge World have this weird thing about bringing Volkite weaponry into the 41st millenium.
>>47249029
It really does irk me, considering how common they were compared to, say contemptor or leviathan dreads which are in 40k, but they insist that 'ALL THE VOLKITE IS GONE, NO MORE VOLKITE!'
>>47249029
I like the idea of SOMETHING not lasting 10K years. It is kinda cheapening to say "look at all the shit humanity lost after ten thousand years of decay, but conveniently they all still exist somehow and you can buy the models from us."
>>47248928
Aww, a first I though they were plastics.
>>47249072
The idea of 30K as being more advanced than 40k rather than better at some things and worse at others but overall a pretty similar tech base has been laughable for a long time.
>>47248955
If logistics break down Tau colonies will be the ones that suffer the most.
>>47249072
You know the gimmick of Volkite is that it's war of the worlds style martian death rays, right?
That's way too valuable an iconic weapon type for the faction to waste on only letting them have it in a side game.
>>47249103
Tau can still travel if the Astronomicon goes down. In fact, outside the Eldar and Necrons they'll become the fastest faction.
>>47246484
>CSM
>same tier as Orks
Holy shit CSM players are dumb as bricks. This is why they don't care about your faction, you guys undervalue your army even more than Space Marine players does.
>>47249147
They still rely on their skimdrives to operate outside their home cluster.
>>47249166
Yes.
Which will make them faster than humanity by a long shot.
>>47249166
Okay. Lets address this piece of ignorance.
The Tau had skim drives and even back then the Skim Drives were not reliant on the Warp. They don't enter the Warp or interact with it. The Tau skim in the void between real space and the warp. That's why the Tau old travelling method did not get affected by whatever happens in the Warp (Warp storms, warp anomalies etc).
The Tau new method of travel doesn't even skim anything. It's just propulsion engines.
Old and new, the Tau do not rely on the warp to travel. They will be fine.
>>47249149
I have large CSM and Ork armies. Orks can do MSU with trukks, and have more viable units than CSM. To be honest I dont even see how its a debate, the Ork codex is noticeably better to build an army from. CSM just have nothing useful/worth the points - outside of Spawn and Sorcerers.
>>47249252
Well shit, when did they re-re-re-retcon the reverse engineering of ork drives?
>>47249328
>MSU
Don't you mean MFP?
Is it possible to play Mechanicum battle tanks just like that or do i have to make them an allied detachment?
>>47249356
Dude....
The 3th ED Tau got their skim engine from reverse engineering the wreckage of a mysterious alien ship on the moon of their home planet T'au. What species the ship belonged to was never revealed.
The Kroot were the guys who gained access to Orkish technological knowledge when their ancestors devoured Orks who crash landed on their homeworld Pech.
The Retconing of the Tau skim engines happened in their 6th ED codex.
110-Herald of Nurgle, Lesser Reward, Greater Locus of fecundity, Doomsday Bell
150-Plaguebearers, Plagueridden, Lesser Reward, 15 total models
270-6x nurglings
35-Furies
360--Tzeentch Prince w/ ML3, Flight, 2 greater rewards, 1 lesser reward, Impossibility Robes
250--Khorne Prince w/ Flight, Lesser Reward, Greater reward & Armour of Scorn
350--Slaanesh Prince w/ Flight, ML3, 2x Greater Reward, Soulstealer & Armour
315--Nurgle Prince w/ Flight, ML3, 2x Greater Reward
1850
R8 H8 Masterb8, all i need for this is a bunch of nurglings, one Prince and the Furies. I'm not planning on using this for casual store games, but as a rematch/tournament army. If i trimmed 275 points/play at 2000, i can also put a D-Thirster down.
>>47247798
>$1200 plus tip for Big E plastic toy
>comes with a squad of Custodes
>>47249451
If I'm going to pay $1200 for an Emperor model it'd better be life size and have a motor in the arm so it can shake my hand.
>>47249501
>If I'm going to pay $1200 for an Emperor model it'd better be life size and have a motor in the arm so it can give me a tuggy, and a damn good one at that.
based on pic related, what is better?
>tldr 3 vehicles get shot and 1 loses a hp, next turn put the wounded one in the front or back?
>>47249516
Oh! Aw! An old fashioned!
>>47249544
Turn around and stop letting fucking tac marines shoot your triple vindicator squadron in the back
>>47249544
Depends on the vehicles, if they are all useful spreading the hurt is better.
>>47245651
>Culexus
Does that also mean they can't go to ground, or move when being charged (DA, Darkstrider)? Can they fight back in combat or are they all auto hit?
>>47249516
I always thought the best 40k scale use of an imperator class would be to fight on top of one as a board. One of the landing pad versions
>>47249567
Vindicators aren't HP2
>>47249577
EMPEROR not Imperator.
>>47249589
Are you really this retarded? It is Imperator. Emperor class titan refers to both Imperator and Warmonger class titans.
>>47249703
Are you retarded? reread what you're quoting, god damn. If they RELEASE A MODEL OF THE EMPEROR THAT COSTS 1200$ ETC
>>47249703
And the subject is a Model of the Emperor of Mankind.
>>47249577
>I always thought the best 40k scale use of an imperator class would be to fight on top of one as a board. One of the landing pad versions
>>47249589
>>47249703
>>47249722
>>47249726
>>47249753
>>47249451
>$1200 plus tip for Big E plastic toy
>comes with a squad of Custodes
>>47249722
>>47249726
The faggot referenced that a titan would be a good playboard instead of the emperor model.
>>47249501
Poorfag please...
>>47249770
Read
>>47249577
All these people complaining that people can't follow the chain yet they themselves haven't followed it either,
>>47247348
You posted this yesterday and I gave you a Tau list.
HQ
Commander
2x Burst Cannons
Command and Control Node
Multi-spectrum Sensor Suite
Neuroweb System Jammer
Stimulant Injector
1x MV4 Shield Drone
Troops
Strike Team
5x Fire Warriors with Pulse Rifles
DS8 Support Turret with Missile Pod
Strike Team
5x Fire Warriors with Pulse Rifles
DS8 Support Turret with Missile Pod
Strike Team
5x Fire Warriors with Pulse Rifles
DS8 Support Turret with Missile Pod
Strike Team
5x Fire Warriors with Pulse Rifles
DS8 Support Turret with Missile Pod
Strike Team
5x Fire Warriors with Pulse Rifles
DS8 Support Turret with Missile Pod
Strike Team
5x Fire Warriors with Pulse Rifles
DS8 Support Turret with Missile Pod
x3 Broadsides
Pathfinders (5)
There. 750.
>>47249787
Keep following the chain till you hit >>47249451
>>47249793
No, read here you fucking moron.
>>47249577
>>47249793
Yes, and then the subject matter changed to a titan. kys
>>47249806
So why did you quote the discussion about emperor models then? The imperator post had nothing to do with anything being discussed, so presumably there was a misreading somewhere
>>47249451
Custodians will come before Emperor. Emperor, if ever, will be Siege of Terra.
It's obviously going to happen.
What is not known, is if they will do a Emperor Class Titan.
It won't be to scale, as a scale Emperor class is 4ft tall.
>>47249793
>>47249828
>This just in, bringing up other subjects is no longer allowed.
All he said was that he thought that it would make a good play board. You don't need to shit a knot because your mind couldn't handle changing subjects. It must be hard not being able to chew bubblegum and walk at the same time.
>>47249844
Funny, considering how one of the major characteristics of autism is a tendency to walk into a conversation and start talking about things they find interesting whether it's on-topic or not.
>>47247619
That's a big Knight.
>>47249935
For you.
>>47249899
Just like you're doing right now?
>>47249993
you brought up autism, i'm being on subject.
>>47249993
Shh, let him fester on his own. He is just going to continue digging his own grave thinking hes won.
>>47250014
If he thinks he has won, why would he continue?
Okay so if Russ is being done, does that mean it's Burning of Prospero next?
If so, doesn't that mean Custodians and Sisters of Silence rules? If not models?
>>47249899
Actually, the comment was on topic. They were talking about scale. So they moved onto Emperor class Titans, which would be huge if to scale.
New topics are started when somebody brings something relevant to the topic, but also divergent enough to talk differently. How do you do convos, anon?
>Hi I like cakes
>Yes, cakes are good
>This topic has now been completed, we may now move onto another topic which may or may not be related to bakery goods
>>47250052
Definitely not Custodes.
Also just because they are coming out with a Primarch doesn't mean some conspiracy theory to give updates in the wake of his story-line are guaranteed.
>>47250079
Well Burning of Prospero is the first major Space Wolves engagement, he doesn't have rules yet, and that so happens to be where the Custodians and Sisters of Silence did a major action (Horus Heresy action, anyway).
Who knows, it could be, could be not. My assumption would be they'd do rules (they've already said they ARE doing rules and models, two years ago) and leave the models till Dark Angels and Blood Angels have gotten their Primarchs.
Still no Alpharius model thou.
>>47247888
This so much
Forge World has become a parody of itself.
If i don't see an xbox hueg fuck off Knight literally no one on earth would buy or want to field/play against when i click on 'What's new' i feel truly shocked.
FW. FW stahp.
>>47249062
Does it say somewhere that contemptors cannot be made anymore? I merely understood that their systems are more sophisticated and they use a different power source than castaferrums, so they're harder to make.
Even in 30k volkites are being phased out in favor of other weapons, since they're harder to make and maintain than, say, bolters.
>>47250212
>>47247810
>>47247798
>>47247783
>>47247766
>>47247619
Meanwhile
>>47250222
The atomantic reactor is beyond anything the forgeworlds can produce at this point.
Which usually means they totally can still make it, and do so regularly, but would rather keep that stuff for themselves.
>>47250270
It's kind of weird. I'd have thought ork vehicles would allow their designers to go completely wild.
>>47250212
>That inevitable purchase with Little Jimmy Taufag daddy's credit card
>That skipping of the resin in hot-water phase
>That lazy piss poor cheap super-glue assembly
>Witnessing this thing tip over under it's own weight and smash into pieces every single game
Something's money can't buy.
>>47247382
Using that logic can IG use 5e codex's entry for Sly Marbo? After all. It's his latest rules
>>47250212
>>47250286
Aren't dreads made by chapter forges, just like all the other Marine vehicles and weapons? Some chapters do rely on forge worlds, but most make their own crap.
>>47250212
Looks cool desu.
>>47250168
They must be selling or they wouldn't be made. Just because YOU don't buy them, doesn't mean others don't.
>REEE FUCKING FORGE WORLD WHY DON'T YOU MAKE STUFF EXPLICITLY FOR ME? FUCK YOU!!!
>IMMA STILL GONNA FOLLOW THE SETTING AND PLAY THE GAME AND STUFF BUT I'LL BUY FROM RECASTERS INSTEAD!!
>>47250385
>They must be selling or they wouldn't be made. Just because YOU don't buy them
By that logicAoS is selling by the truckload
>>47250394
>Everyone is bitching about FW and I am just over here ordering Fire Raptors at $70USD/ea
>>47250422
Again, just because you don't, doesn't mean other people don't.
Then again, this is GW, who supported WHFB for 3 more editions despite selling so poorly.
>>47250452
WHERE. I MUST HAVE THE GUNSHIPS
>>47250293
>wild
Nah not even close.
Look how cookie-cutter and 'safe' the Gorkanaught is.
>S-s-so that plastic Squiggoth you all want? yeah fuck it, the new unit is a generic walker! haha! every Ork loves shitty walkers with yet more Power klaws yeah? U-uh..uhm....DATZ DED STOMPY amirite guise???
>O-oh god please buy it ;_;
When GW and FW find their balls maybe they can build an Ork unit worth a fuck
>>47250452
That's what I said, isn't it?
I should have ordered some stuff a long time ago to get onto his mailing list. He's blocked new orderers iirc. Z was the only person doing OOP Dark Elf Executioners.
> Supporting GW ips after Age of Shitmar.
It's like you aren't even trying to troll, OP.
>>47250270
> Orks
> Needing or following rules
Don't be a grot ye git.
>>47250466
>>47250314
Why bother when three Riptides will do twice the job at half the cost?
They'll also look three times as shit with that 2cool4school redandwhite paint scheme.
>>47250485
I'll do whatever I want with my money. Who the fuck are you to tell me what to do with my hard earned cash.
Fucking communist scum.
>>47250485
Why would I stop playing 40k just because Fantasy, which has always been shit, has continued to be shit now that nobody plays it anymore?
>>47246989
Oh, it's alright, then.
>>47250485
>Why are you supporting an unrelated product to the thing I don't like?
>STOP DOING IT STOP IT I SAY BUY WARMAHORDES!!!
WHFB has always been shit and now they can finally go "We tried, we're closing AoS down so no more fantasy for you".
>>47250480
Yeah buddy, I was agreeing with you.
I never used Z justCCON and The American
>>47250507
> hard earned cash
the dole
>>47250530
>BUY WARMAHORDES!!!
This is exactly what I was going to say to >>47250485
I don't know how those PP shills stay in denial.
>>47250556
I like Warmachine, but it's definitely no 40k/Fantasy. There isn't a real competitor to GW that's "40k/Fantasy, but balanced" right now.
>>47250532
Oh. Well I suppose I could give them a shot. Never heard of the latter.
>>47250556
Were you here for the King of War vulture shilling? It was funny as fuck.
>omg AoS is shit
>Buy KoW! It's so much better! Here is misinformation to make your decision easier?
I don't even like AoS but it was so obvious and it bleed into 40k as well as the shills tried to get people in here to switch because "oh it's going to happen to 40k soon! Don't support the evil joos at GW!!!!"
>the chaos knight and kytan daemon engine are arguably the only decent chaos gargants/super heavies
>lord of skulls will never be updated to be remotely usable
>daemon lords will remain horribly dated
Why is it so difficult to create a playable giant murder daemon?
