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It's time. Rules:
1. Keep it /tg/-related (no politicrap)
2. Try not to post the same deviantart pics that always get posted.

Starting off with some classic Mongoose QUALITY
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>>47200185
Plz anon, OP said QUALITY.
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>>47200116
>>47200131
>>47200143
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>>47200159
What's so bad about defensive and mistrusting, but otherwise peaceful treasure apes?
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>>47200116
>>47200131
>>47200166
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>>47200190
>no mention of the DM god.
I would go look for it if I didn't care for my phone, but it is on the D&D 3.5 wiki
He's like LN and drinks mt. Dew
Fuck I hate meta jokes sometimes.
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>>47200208
Think of the glorious milieu, Mr. Spacey.

>>47200221
Something better could have been in its place. "[animal] but can talk" is a really lazy monster idea.
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>>47200143
Alright /tg/ what bullshit could a lvl20 wizard pull to get rid of this higher tier bullshit
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>>47200284
Be played by the person who wrote up that god to begin with.
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>>47200263
I've got your back familia:

http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Dungeon_Master_%283.5e_Deity%29
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>>47200312
Thanks mate.
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>>47200143
>LA +162

I know what my next character is now.
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This my last pic for now, I'll try to dig up some more stuff tonight.

>>47200372
The presence of Greyhawk there is really triggering me. Damnable ability modifiers.

>>47200407
dat doe tho
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>>47200421
Is this some CTech?

giggity
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>>47200479
This can't be real.
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>>47200421
You should read up on the French Polynesians.
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>>47200499
It is.

She traded a holy avenger for a change gender potion.
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>>47200530
I heard that Pathfinder was full SJW, but I had no idea they meant it.
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>>47200284
Magic Missile + Fell Drain is the only way I can see. That AC is stupidly fucking high for no reason, and because of that you need to use shit that bypasses AC.

You could also huck Aboleth Mucus at it and hope it rolls a 1 on its save, but I think it can hold its breath for longer than 3 hours because of its CON. Which is stupidly high for no reason.
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>>47200200
His Dogma may as well be "Pssssh, nothin personnel kid".
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>>47200099
Dun get why this is cringe or how the description relates to the image? Like, they say it has no defined form and then it shows a succubus? This jsut confuses me.
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>>47200407
I'd plow half of those. Especially the rabbit.
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>>47200581
The image of the slutty angel is right next to the Radiance Elemental description and the same thing keeps happening throughout the entire book (Encyclopedia Arcane: Elementalists?). Mongoose had a bad habit of shoving out-of-context badly drawn cheesecake into all their D&D books.
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>>47200347
>chaotic justice
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>>47200479
>>47200543
>>47200530
The best part is that a change gender potion is nowhere near worth the price of a holy avenger. So she got ripped off.

I could probably forgive all that if they were interesting characters but the text just goes on and on and on about how PERFECT and IN LOVE they are, and how contrived the circumstances to put them together are, and it just makes me sick. It's not just SJW-y, it's saccharine and boring, and badly-written.
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>>47200593
Oh boy, I sure love playing D&D for gender politics.
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>>47200454
Sexual deviance is always a cheap way to make the future look weird
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>>47200669
You don't base your sexual identity on the writings of RPG designers?
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>>47200593
>FFRP on the OOTS forums

What a dumb kid I was.
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>>47200646
Here here, I can take a premise if it's actually done well, give them drama, have them meet, fucking show don't tell, and remember that potions of sex change are common enough to find on a good dungeon crawl or just get a decent alchemist
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>>47200681
Was supposed to be for >>47200651
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>>47200681
Nah, if anything I like to troll myself when setting crafting, like the racenter of hermaphrodites that turned to asexual vat breeding during a total war
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>>47200700
They could've even played it off to actually make it part of the love story - like she was so blinded by love she was willing to give up anything to properly be with her lover, which is both sweet but also shows how crazy stupid love can be. That way it doesn't sound like she made a stupid trade for absolutely no reason.
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>>47200635
That's is indeed cringeworthy. ugh.
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>>47200700
I can't. I don't play fantasy games so I can deal with current leftist liberal stuff. I play fantasy games to be a jolly hobbit throwing stones.

>>47200681
Sadly, I am what many would call "a filthy breeder".
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>>47200715
AMAAAAZIING GRAAAAAAAACE!
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>>47200741
You got a point, honestly I'm a sucker for unorthodoxed love stories so I get more forgiving of shit then I should
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>>47200479
Seen crazier shit, like the dick-girl Elf god in D&D or this weird ass monster girl that impregnantes characters with its weird ass mutant babies.
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>>47200807
Is this honestly any weirder then ancient mythology?
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>>47200826
Not really. The only thing that could bother me about this is what >>47200646 says, that it seems only couples with a SJW theme are perfect.
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>>47200874
That's because they are too insecure to imagine such a relationship going through any real drama as they think such things would imply it is less valid then standard relationships

Not defending, just examining the mindset
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>>47200807
> weird ass monster girl that impregnantes characters with its weird ass mutant babies.
This one, you mean? Also on topic for the thread.
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>>47200978
That's why nobody likes SJW. For them it's the ideal thing or falocentric oppression,seems to me.

>>47201045
Damn,this is it. This is some crazy shit,mate. The guy who wrote this must be into some kinky stuff.
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>>47200722
Especially if her well-intentioned but short-sighted decision ends up costing her dearly in the long run. Demons attack (they live close to the Worldwound) and she's unable to properly fend them off, resulting in her girlfriend being captured and herself being crippled, so she needs the PCs to help her out.

Boom, there's a fucking story arc.
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Does worldbuilding cringe count as cringe? Cause I have a goldmine if so.
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>>47200807
>dick-girl Elf god in D&D
Warhammer has had that for a while now, they just call it Slaanesh.
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>>47201189
Go for it
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I've said it before and I'll say it again. The home brew section of the dnd wiki should be purged and it's contributors executed.
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>>47201189
I'm interested.
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>>47201181

What a piece of shit.Seriously fuck SKR. I really hope Paizo fires him for Pathfinder 2.0.
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>>47201201
I meant crazier shit in D&D or d20 System in general. There's some bat shit crazy level thing out there older than RPGs.
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>>47201088
>>47201045
Does it bother anyone else that you can basically not have any bodyhorror monsters anywhere anymore without someone assuming it's because they make your dick hard, because everyone is such a fucking retarded deviant?

If ALIEN was made today, /tg/'s collective opinion would be

>Lol tentaclevagina that rapes and impregnates a man, who gorebirths a penismonster that vores the crew. NICE MAGICAL REALM, 0/10!, go back to /D/ Ridley Scott!
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>>47201239
That's a bad argument because it made Geiger's dick hard.
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>>47201239
I mean, there were definitely sexual themes and rape themes and stuff, but I didn't feel like the director got off on it.
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>>47201239
Because Alien was about 40 years ago,anon. Then the Internet did not even exist. Now every fucking body have access to the weirdest sexual fetish related content.
I asume any new body horror monster is the product of its creator's most abhorrent manias because I'm quite sure I'm right to think so.
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>>47201239
Well who else would think of such quasi-sexual and even actually sexual things when making monsters? You could just have tiny tentacles pierce the flesh and writhe under the skin, but noooo, you had to say they slip into orifices.
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alright here's part one. there are some more pics I saved from /b/ cringe threads, this dude created a ton of autistic shit, and I think he was trying to use it for a GURPS campaign at one point.
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>>47201239
But Alien *was* Giger's magical realm. The only difference is that it's much easier to confirm that it is someone's magical realm nowadays.
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>>47201375
meant to reply to
>>47201217
>>47201207
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>>47200407
>Horned Ones
>Not a single creatures with horns

This shit gets me every time.
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>>47201207
>>47201217

Here's another one. The pictures are all spread out in my cringe folder so I have to scroll through the thumbnails one by one to find them.

> tfw 1284 cringe pics in your folder
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>>47200177
I can only picture his "triple triangle" divine symbol being either a stolen triforce, or a stolen valknut, and it make the QUALITY so much sweeter.
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>>47201427
They'll show you their horn when the time comes.
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>>47201430

I'm confused, is the cringe here just the high levels of purple prose?
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>>47200407

Wait, so is there a reason you *shouldn't* mate with the Horned Ones?

Because I'm looking at that bunny and thinking, "damn, look at those tits."
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>>47201217

There are a couple more, I saved them because they were weird as fuck. I'm tyring to find the original infographic that explained everything, it was cringey as hell. I can't find the GURPS characters though... I might be remembering something else there.

These are some really cringey guns from his sci fi world.
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>>47200543
>I heard that Pathfinder was full SJW, but I had no idea they meant it.

Are you fucking serious?

Goddamn, I mean, I was thinking about picking it up, but if it's infested with that horseshit than I want no part of it.
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>>47201166
>>47200722
>>47200700
>>47200646

>Irabeth and Anevia
>Drama

Topkek, they're presented as the sweetest, most adorable and in love couple in Pathfinder history. They're basically inseparable, and Irabeth is consistently shown-off as the most awesome, famous, powerful Paladin in the Crusade that is also the most humble, wise and caring person you'll ever meet!

In fact, the only reason she doesn't get all the credit for most of the AP is because she just wants to retire to her mansion with Anevia and live in peace and quiet!
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>>47201318
That's because they removed most of the vagina entrance to the ship. And the rape theme was the original idea, mixed with with Ixtl from The Voyage of the Space Beagle.
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>>47201507
Same. Wouldn't even need the pheromones. Adventuring can wait for an hour or two.
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>>47200407
>horned one of the nigger species is gifted with a huge back dong
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>>47201181
>>47201120
This guys sounds like a complete bell-end. Let me guess, fighters being able to do anything other than deal piddly damage is unrealistic, but shooting fireballs out of your hands is fine.
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>>47201507
They're bait in a trap of the kind that you'd end up in a padded cell just from knowing how bad it'd be to have it slam shut around you.
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>>47201507
Go for it anon. Make your dreams come true!
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>>47200646
>The best part is that a change gender potion is nowhere near worth the price of a holy avenger. So she got ripped off.

There is a lot of shit you can pin on Wrath of the Righteous, but "selling a holy avenger for a gender change potion" is not one of them.

Irabeth's sword was a family heirloom, nothing more and nothing less. The weapon you're thinking of is Radiance, a completely unrelated weapon that was lost to Mendev but can realize it's full power in the hands of a Paladin. If Radiance was *actually* Irabeth's sword, it would have revealed itself to her long before the party encountered her.
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>>47200575

This idiot needs to die. Holy shit. I see why you guys hate Pathfinder now.
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>>47201329
>I asume any new body horror monster is the product of its creator's most abhorrent manias because I'm quite sure I'm right to think so.
>I assume
>because I'm quite sure I'm right to think so.

...
So, you believe a thing because you believe your belief is correct?

Well, I assume I'm actually an attack helicopter. Because I'm sure I'm right to think so. DO YOU SEE WHY THIS LOGIC DOESN'T WORK?
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>>47200372

Gary Gygax converted chainmail into a roleplaying "game" with progression that modeled already-existent wargames of the time.

He was a decent DM but that's all he was good at.

And B/X sucks ass.
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>>47201532
>but if it's infested with that horseshit than I want no part of it.
There are plenty of other reasons not to play pathfinder, though. 90% of them involve how terrible the rules are.
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>>47201565
Yes.
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>>47201612
>selling a family heirloom for a potion of change gender
You aren't making it any better.
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>>47201644
>And B/X sucks ass.
but that's wrong you retard.
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>>47201622
You should use another example. I think you're being offensive to trans-attackhelicopter people.

Or was it attackhelicoptetsexuals? I don't even know what's a gender or sexual orientation anymore.
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>>47201656
I was led to believe that the rules were streamlined 3.5 ...?
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>>47201680

Her mother was a human Paladin that knocked uglies with one of the only good-aligned Orcs in the setting.

I don't think she gives a fuck about her family lineage since it was already in the trash by her sheer existence.
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>>47201532
You don't have to use all the SJW shit,you know. I'm building mey setting to give Pathfinder a shot and see how it goes. We can always go back to 3.5,since it's my group's preferred edition.
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>>47200522
Wow. These people know that Reign is a thing? Or fucking anything else.
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>>47201696
>3.5
That's the problem.
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>>47200177
>Symbol: Triple Triangle
Lost
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>>47201532
Pathfinder is worse than 3.5 in a lot of ways. Especially if you like game balance.

Look up summoners and weep.
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>>47201755

oh shit

I promised to run a pathfinder game for my friends in a couple months when our current campaign wraps up

one of our characters is a summoner.

fuck fuck fuck he keeps talking about how many attacks his creatures will get by 10th level.
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>>47201696
nope. It's basically just 3.5 with MORE OPTIONS THROWN IN. The balance is worse than 3.5, you've got more trap options, and there's tons of fiddly shit still.
Just play 5th, it's so much better.
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>>47201771

top fucking kek. holy shit I'd love for paizo to drop dead and have this fucker working at McDonalds because his "skills" aren't going to be accepted at literally any other game development company.
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>>47201800

> don't play the game with options, play the game with no options
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If you ever wondered why monks suck ass in 3.x. Here's the reason.
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>>47200159
>>47200099
>>47200268
>>47200312
>>47201045
Don't see the issue

>>47200116
>>47200131
>>47200166
>>47200177
>>47200200
>>47200347
>>47200358
>>47200391
>>47200428
13 yr old DM/10
I regret nothing I made when I was 13

>>47200391
>>47200407
>>47200421
>>47200575
13 yr old game developer/10

>>47200143
I've seen stranger

>>47200190
Might work as a minor deity, sex/fertility gods were a thing

>>47200479
Played with stranger

>>47200522
Lol, what sorta faggot reads the campaign's background info?

>>47200593
Needs to build less of their self image on their gender identity

>>47200715
I'm gonna need someone to explain what the fuck is going on here

>>47200753
See above but I also get the feeling this is porn
Also
>Swordia
This is some sort of parody right?

>>47201120
I honestly would not be opposed to someone playing something ridiculous like a water balloon fighter provided it fit the setting and was balanced

>>47201181
>>47201673
>>47201753
>>47201771
>>47201794
>>47201831
Shit developer

>>47201239
/tg/ is shit and paranoid about icky boners, this is known

>>47201375
Might play this campaign

>>47201430
Gotta use that English degree y'know?

>>47201513
I'm not /k/ enough to judge
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>>47201847

>Might play this campaign

Are you sure faggot? finally found the original post.
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>>47201803

SKR moved back in with Wizards of the Coast if I'm not mistaken? He doesn't work for Paizo at all.
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>>47201847
Thank you, king of QUALITY/cringe.
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>>47201532
Pathfinder is a shitty, bloated system even without the identity politics. I played one campaign of it and gave it up forever. And that was at least two years before someone told me about the degenerate characters.
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>>47201847
>I honestly would not be opposed to someone playing something ridiculous like a water balloon fighter provided it fit the setting and was balanced

Water balloon fighter is actually a better choice than crossbow fighter in Pathfinder.
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>>47201774
Make everyone a gestalt summoner. Suddenly you're in JoJo's Bizarre adventure.
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>>47200479
Fucking kikes.
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>>47201800
Is 5th good? Only heard bad things about 4th, and most people around my zone play 3.5 or Pathfinder I didn't contemplate giving it a shot.
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>>47201774
Or just don't play Pathfinder. Jesus Christ, what is people's problem?
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>>47201821
Options that become unplayble due to performance pressure don't bring you anything but the illusion of choice.
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>>47201847
>Gotta use that English degree y'know?

Is it really that bad though? I mean it's a little wordy and has a couple tense issues, and I'm not denying the other images are stupid as fuck, but I do kinda like it with the picture.... although... are those fucking parking lot lamps?
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>>47201901
4th isn't perfect, but it's a lot of fun. Characters feel different and unique. Everyone has a chance to shine.
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>>47201544
>Paladin

You say "retire", I say "dereliction of duty".
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>>47201906

That's odd because I seem to remembe playing a lot of those "unplayable" options and having fun with them. Hmm clearly they aren't unplayable are they? And yet I still contributed to the party.

And wizards' response to finally balancing feats, was to make them a shitty optional rule? Please. I'll play D&D again when it doesn't have feats that give you a fucking attribute bonus beacuse they made a terrible metric for how feats work that most of them can't even live up to.
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>>47201847
>what the fuck is going on here
Black Tokyo. It also has armor made of shit among other things.
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>>47201901
You heard a lot of lies and grognard bullshit.
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>>47201924
Everybody who've played it told me it's basically WoW:The Traditional RPG. I looked over the main rulebook and didn't see anything too bad,though.

Maybe I'll take a look at 5th. Thanks.
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>>47201901

5th is good if you like AD&D mixed with 4e. There are some good things about it but once against Wizards takes them too far and makes the game a shit.

At this point they have four different playgroups at odds, the community is so splintered that it doesn't really matter anymore. D&D sells well because it's D&D, not ebcause it's a good game.
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>>47201680
It's still a lot different than one of the best weapons a paladin can ever wield. And what if the family hierloom was honestly a shitty sword? If you argue from a purely stats perspective, you can probably find a better one with only a little effort.
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>>47201932
>hmmm
Dropped the reading right there.
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>>47200159

This thing is fucking awesome and fuck anyone who says otherwise.
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>>47175972

This in general
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>>47201873
After reading that?
Yes

>>47201876
You're welcome
peasant

>>47201891
I have a new character idea

>>47201911
>Is it really that bad though?
Honestly?
No, could be worse

>are those fucking parking lot lamps?
Yes

>>47201938
>Black Tokyo.
Oh, yeah that sounds about right

>>47201987
Edgy/10

>>47202021
Yeah, it was cute at first but now it's a monster that needs to be put down
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>>47201958
They're faggots. I say this as someone who prefers retroclones and grognard shit like that, that 4e is something I would want to play. Rather than 3.PF, which I actively try to avoid playing.

It's major issue is hit-point inflation and bloodied abilities which makes some fights drag on
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>>47202061

You are seriously autistic if you want to play in this guy's campaign. It's a shitty 40k rip-off he came up with at age 7. But I figure you're just trolling me so whatever.
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>>47202103

>It's major issue is hit-point inflation and bloodied abilities which makes some fights drag on

It's major issue is also the whole "lol I swung my sword really hard, now I can't do that til tomorrow cause of arbitrary encounter-flow-control reasons"

Also the complete lack of character customization beyond "lol pick from these three maneuvers at this level" that gives you the same three fucking choices each time.

At least 3.5 let you make completely different characters each time.

Why can't WotC just do something right for once instead of throwing the ideas away because they didn't work out the first time? Goddamn it. Every new D&D edition is completely different from the last, they don't build on each other, they shit on each other and divide the fanbase even more.

I see FFG putting Wizards in the ground within 10 years time.
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>>47202143
>At least 3.5 let you make completely different characters each time.
Yeah, you can full attack with a spear instead of a sword!
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>>47202161

I mean the feats you fucking mongoloid.

Also, did you ever use Power Attack, or were you too retarded to use one of the best feats in the game?
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>>47200143
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>>47202199
Look, I've been there working out the right curve for power attacking. It sucks.

ToB maneuvers and skirmish grid combat make 4e martials actually fun. And abstract skills allow for more out-of-combat roleplaying.
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>>47202251

> fun

There's that buzzword again.......
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>>47202326
Go away, /v/.

>>47202199
My point was that you aren't doing anything differently. Your build may be different, but you're still standing in place and hitting them.
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>>47200715
feels good man
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>>47200378
>He has black skin that glows a black
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>>47201532
the rules are VERY poorly written, not in the rules themselves are bad but they are written nebulously and very hard to understand
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>>47201847
>/tg/ is shit and paranoid about icky boners, this is known
I remember a time when we were welcoming to letting the freak flag fly, where did all the prudes come from?
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>>47202391

> I'm too retarded to comprehend anything more complicated than Dungeon World.

The pathfinder rules are written fine for the most part.

> inb4 you find 1 or 2 counter examples of confusing rules
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>>47202143
>It's major issue is also the whole "lol I swung my sword really hard, now I can't do that til tomorrow cause of arbitrary encounter-flow-control reasons"

You talk like there aren't Daily abilities in 3.5 already, you fucking mongoloid.
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>>47202462
Nah, I'm fully aware that me and my group are idiots, so this isn't really a surprise
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>>47202435
When people stopped telling them to get the fuck out
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>>47202465

Yeah one or two, and they were almost universally reviled as being stupid as shit.

The only argument for 4e is "lololol it's fantasy so realism is completely out the window" which results in a game that might as well exist in a completely different dimension in some LSD dream world where the shortest distance between two points is some klein bottle ass squiggle because that's the closest it comes to reality.

4e is basically a MOBA, the fucking cooldown times and overly-inflated health is all there. It's got a lot of great ideas but it shits them into the ground with continuing escalations of the same bland weapon powers, except at 3W damage instead of 2W damage.
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>>47202374
>>47200715
What the fuck is wrong with White Wolf?
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>>47202498
what caused us to welcome the normies?
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>>47202465
I can't think of many that weren't spells. There were probably a few on garbage PrC's though
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>>47202517
>t's got a lot of great ideas but it shits them into the ground with continuing escalations of the same bland weapon powers, except at 3W damage instead of 2W damage.

Tell me how this is worse that "I full attack" or "I charge" from 1 to 20th level?
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>>47202540
well there were the regular porn threads on the weekends that had no reason to be here
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>>47202540
We started to care about whether they were normies or not and stopped caring about whether they were fa/tg/uys or not
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>>47202546

> le strawman

There's plenty of organic tactical depth from Power Attack, 5 foot steps, Combat Expertise, and setting up for those combat maneuver feats.

Hell of a lot better than "I USE MUH AVATAR BIG SWORD SUPER POWAH DEALIN 5d6+5 PLUS 4 ONGOING DAMAGE SAVE ENDS" pre-templated bullshit. My group finally tried Pathfinder and switched to it, they dropped 4e HARD because it had fuck all for options and had so many temporary bonuses and bleed damage stacked up that it felt like we were trying to run through a video game by hand.
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>>47202544
Rage
Smite Evil
Bardic Performance
Wholeness of Body
Wild Shape

And much more. Do you even read the system?
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>>47202607
>There's plenty of organic tactical depth from Power Attack, 5 foot steps, Combat Expertise, and setting up for those combat maneuver feats.
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>>47202517
>The only argument for 4e is "lololol it's fantasy so realism is completely out the window
No, fuck you and your shit. The argument I see most for 4E is that it lets the non-casters have FUN.

You aren't limited to fucking full attacking. You have attacks that auto knock prone, AoEs, counters, etc. It gives you a fucking toolkit instead of a wrench,
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>>47202326
It allows for a greater diversity of meaningful choices in combat
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>>47201507
>>47201507

I think they're servants of Shub-Niggurath or something. So not exactly good news.
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>>47202667
>You have attacks that auto knock prone, AoEs, counters, etc.

> what is cleave
> what is trip attack
> what is improved trip

Martials had plenty of fun in 3.5, the problem is you need to be spoonfed it with a pre-set power because you're too much of a goddamn baby to read the fuckin rulebook.
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>>47202693

> do I use power A or power B?

Such meaning.
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Take you edition wars somewhere else, or are you displaying cringe for the sake of the thread?
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>>47202632
Smite Evil is magic
Bardic Performance is magic
Wholeness of Body is Magic
Wildshape is magic. Also it's just polymorph per day with slightly different rules

You're right on rage. There's also stunning fist, but that's arguably magic with ki bullshit
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>>47202709
>what is cleave
Not much of an AoE
>what is trip attack
Easily dodged/negated
>what is improved trip
A bit harder to easily dodge or negate.
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>>47202752
And don't forget that you need 2-3 feats to make it viable.

And that's a big problem, you will just spam the same shit every combat, and that's fucking boring.
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>>47202387
>glows a black, dragon like teeth.
His skin glows teeth. That are like dragon.
At least it's not horses.
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>>47201774
DON'T. PLAY. PATHFINDER.

You'll regret it. Read all of the Pathfinder cringe pics in this thread, if nothing else. Pathfinder is absolute garbage.
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>>47202752
Not to mention the fact that both mentioned abilities were feats; which are sparse resources in the first place, where anything a wizard wants to do he can learn by buying a scroll
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>>47202752

> not much of an AoE

I'm sorry if it doesn't let you auto-kill six minions at once so you can wank to how badass you are.

> easily negated

If it costs you an action to get up no it isn't. I'm sorry if trip doesn't let you autowin fights.

> A bit harder to easily dodge or negate.

So it's not easy to dodge or negate? Oh shit wait I forget you clearly never played 3.5, or are whining because you can't trip a fucking stone giant like you can in 4e just by rolling a natural 20.

>>47202775

Next time finish your autistic thoughts in one post so I don't have to reply to more than one.

> wah wah spamming the same shit because feats

And powers are any different?
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>>47202813

> feats
> sparse resources
> fighter gets seven of them by sixth level

I don't mind you having a different opinion but please don't spout retarded falsehoods. The worst thing about you raging faggots is that you have a legitimate point but you take it to such an extreme that it gets blurred out by all the other retarded shit you are saying.

You say shit like "fighter literally cannot function the class doesn't work" when it clearly does, it's just underpowered.
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>>47201774
Hey man, things get shitty at times, but remember that if your group is fun, you'll have fun. Also, anything that his natural attack spamming eidolon can use, you can put Damage Resistance on enemies to make it worse for them
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>Anons in this thread thinking they know cringe
Ha! None of this even comes close to "Gangrape, the RPG" levels of cringe.
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>>47202848

The Wizard has TWELVE spells by sixth level, minimum, and can just buy more, any one of which is easily as potent as a feat all by itself.

Yes, feats are a sparse resource.
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>>47202816
>And powers are any different?

Do you have a brain, you fucktard?

In 3.5, if you have a Fighter that excels in Tripping, he will do that EVERY TIME, and if the opponent is immune to trip (Oozes) or basically impossible to trip (Giants), you are fucked and near useless.

In comparison, in a power system, if the player is not a braindead mongoloid like you, he will have powers that can cover a wide range of situations, and still be useful.

But I really wonder why I wasting my time to reply to a faggot troll like you.
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>>47202863
Please, do you have a pdf of it? For reseach purposes.
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>>47202899
>he will have powers that can cover a wide range of situations, and still be useful.

Oh shit even more ongoing damage to keep track of! And maybe I can trip something for a round! That's so interesting!

And no, a fighter who trips will not do it every time because it's not always the best strategy.

But clearly tripping things is important to you, so go trip some more creatures while I play a game that lets me trip things more than once per encounter.
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>>47202848
Whoa dude, calm down.

First and foremost; not every player plays a fighter, nor a wizard. Some play in-between classes and are always hungry for their next feat or spell level.

Secondarily, I myself have not suggested fighter doesn't work; I personally believe that fighter is the expert-player class, because it gets few actual class features, requiring system mastery to use. This does not dismiss that it has flaws, however, such as having a very unpredictable nature or being the slave to feat taxes.

You are gettin' mad on the internet, you need to step back man, calm down.
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>>47202922
Actually, yes (I think), but its on my old computer. Give me a minute.

Also, I only now realized this, but "Gangrape, the RPG" is litterally made in Sweden.
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>>47202953
>"Gangrape, the RPG" is litterally made in Sweden.

/pol/ was right again
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>>47202922
It sounds really straight forward. Two or more rapists rape the victim, and that's it. By experiencing rape first hand the players learn about it.
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>>47202899
Don't forget that he has to build his character around tripping in the first place, and is limited to full attacking when not tripping.
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>>47202949

I think you need to take a step back and kill yourself. I never said fighter wasn't overpowered, only that this dumb shit that powers are somehow a solution by turning everything into a DOTA clone is fucking moronic as hell. Especially given how many of your 4e powers become completely obsolete after their time. At least fucking power attack and weapon focus retain their use into higher levels despite weapon focus being a shit feat anyway.

All 4e does is take the retarded four-encoutners-per-day type of structure and solidify it for zero fucking reason. Resting is not cinematic and it adds nothing to teh fucking game, yet this whole recharge shit is still present in games, plus a massive fuckload of hit points.

And you can't pretend 4e doesn't give you a shitload of hp when you start with 20x the hp of the average orc warrior.
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>>47202977
Are there every wrong?
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>>47202953
Um. I found it.
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>>47202999
... Man... Fuck. You got me. I'm just gonna go hang my head somewhere seven feet tall and suspended. Catch you later madbro.
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>>47201381
>>47201329
>>47201318
>>47201309
But the point is that you can't even touch on sexuality in any way without someone assuming that the only reason it's there is because you obsessively jerk off to it.

Someone can sit down and go "you know what's creepy? Sex stuff. So I'm gonna put sex stuff in with the creepy stuff and make it extra creepy" but every 12 year old who's been to /D/ simply can't understand the mindset that something sexual can exist in fiction for other reasons than to jerk off to.

>A rape scene? Clearly because the author has a fetish, not because it's a shitty thing that happens in the shitty setting.
>Pregnancy monsters? Fetish!
>Eaten by dragon? Fetish!

Why can't fictional shit try to poke you in the "ewwww" corner of your brain without everyone assuming it's trying to grab you by the dick, because someone, somewhere gets off on it?

I can't decide any more if nerds are getting incredibly prude, or if it's some kind of over-reaction stemming from a desire to distance themselves from anything remotely sexual in an effort to seem normal and respectable.

>icky sex stuff in my computer games, eewww, nooo thank you, stay in your own magical realm weirdo, I'm gonna go google ass to mouth 4000 times and never tell anyone.
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>>47202995

> full attacking
> full attacking

Do you dumb fucks even move in combat? Holy fucking shit, you cannot move and full attack.

Yes, you need to build your character slightly aorund tripping. Oh shit, your fighter doesn't get to do absolutely everything at the best possible way? Boo hoo, it's better than every fighter being the exact fucking same thing.
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>>47202944
>Oh shit even more ongoing damage to keep track of!

Like 3.5 don't have a fuckton to track.

Lethal damage/Non-lethal damage
Ability Damage/Ability Drain (Gonna recalculate lots of shit)
Negative Levels (More calculations)
All the kinds of buff (Morale, Luck, Insight, Sacred...)
Debuffs

Try harder, faggot.
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>>47203024

Good. Have fun being the forgotten edition while Pathfinder and 5e stomp your shitty-ass video game into the dust.
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>>47203040
Yo. see
>>47202999

Troll in the dungeon. Just thought you should know
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>>47203012
Thanks (I guess)
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>>47203055
I thought you would've known.
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>>47203054
y-you too
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>>47202977
don't forget
>white swede talking about how problematic gang rape is while self-flagellating even though it's a 99,9% immigrant-based crime.
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>>47203040

> not prerecording your altered bonuses from the common buffs you use

> not being able to reduce your attack bonus by a couple points or subtract 2x level hp

> implying nonlethal damage is a part of most fights

If you're not going to try to play the game correctly, your shitty experience is your fault, no one elses. Deal with it.
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>>47203012
What the fuck, this is the most SJW bullshit I have ever seen.

Why do white swedes hate themselves so much?
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>>47203012
is there a point to this?
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>>47200143
>Antediluvian sun god and draconic sky celestial
>Antediluvian sun god
>Antediluvian
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>>47203166
>Edgy students make game about rape being icky.
>Clearly the entire country hates itself.
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>>47200268
I think the weird part is the fact that the ape hordes treasure, not that it can talk
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>>47202435
They came from /pol/, now everything is degeneracy.
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>>47203364
To be fair, anon. It IS sweden.
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>>47200159
WE
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>>47203012
>The woman has power over the rapists' behaviours and feelings

>mfw the game of gangrape is quite literally saying it's the woman's fault she's raped.
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>>47200177
>Dranconic Soi
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>>47203364
There is a shit ton of mental gymnastics to come to that conculsion.
>>47203397
I'm assuming that Sweedish people aren't this hateful of themselves. unless they are a Norwegian living in Sweeden.
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>>47203468
That's the opposite of cringy though
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>>47200826
Nothing designers can write tops cursing your adulterous husband so he ejaculates scorpions and centipedes, and be punished for it by becoming a sort of brass fuckcowdoll so a bull impregnates you with the minotaur.
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>>47202103
This.

I view 4e as "DnD: Tactics". HP bloat, and some monster setups can make the game drag. But overall it's fun for mostly dungeon crawl adventures, or adventures with very little mechanics outside of combat.

3.5 and Pathfinder are shit on chips, unless you have a dragon-sized hard-on for casters.
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>>47200593
>bitching about drow being full of racist and sexist ideas
>complain that there are no 'matriarchal races' in D&D, while simultaneously bitching about drow being sexist

Arent drow matriarchal, and wouldnt that be 'sexist' against men in the very manner this ill-informed sjw-tard is whining about? It's like sjw's just bitch and get mad for no reason at all.
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>>47203468
That's cute.
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>>47201507
women get impregnated with eldricth animals.
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>>47203543
This is also cute.
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>>47203524
>and be punished for it by becoming a sort of brass fuckcowdoll so a bull impregnates you with the minotaur.

That's not what happens, anon.

The Queen ordered Archimedes to make the cow, so she could *crawl inside it* and have the bull mount it and, in the process, fuck her.
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>>47203554
Drow and Foremane are the two biggest matriarchal societies in any rendition of D&D or d20.
And yes SJW's will crap theor perverbial pants over anything.
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>>47203585
Oh, I wrote it like the curse was literally becoming a fuckdoll, right? Sorry. I meant to say what you did.
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>>47202527
Depends upon what part of White Wolf we're talking... For the most part, nothing. But them you get some pretty cringey shit like that pic related.
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>>47202709
>what is improved trip
A waste of a feat past lvl 5?
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>>47202540
the other 2, plus mods started being nofun asshole prudes
sometimes it's better to let a guy say "NORMIES GET OFF MY FUCKING BOARD YOU FUCKING NORMALFAGS REEEEEEEE" and let him get laughed off until he stops being butthurt a couple of days later and comes back than to stealth-ban the guy and delete his post
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>>47201239
You bitched about this in another thread, too. Trying to defend your magical realm, anon?
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>>47202816

>I'm sorry if it doesn't let you auto-kill six minions at once so you can wank to how badass you are.

But a single fireball doing the same without requiring a feat is perfectly fine for wizard players to wank over.

>If it costs you an action to get up no it isn't. I'm sorry if trip doesn't let you autowin fights.

Trip is a wasted endeavor against over half the monsters you'll ever face, and certainly any past the first few levels of a campaign.

>Oh shit wait I forget you clearly never played 3.5, or are whining because you can't trip a fucking stone giant like you can in 4e just by rolling a natural 20.

By the time you're facing Stone Giants, you've more than likely come to the conclusion that trying to trip something is a complete waste of a turn. If you do have a chance, it's miniscule (requiring a nat-20 if you have a nice DM). Meanwhile your martial character has been made null and void 5 levels ago by the real character classes worth playing.
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>>47200593
>trans*
*genderism
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>>47201932
I'm amazed by how brainwashed 3.x fans are. It's a horribly unbalanced system that they will defend to the death. For some fucking reason.
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>>47203038
By level 10, your fighter doesn't do anything the best possible way. Except die.
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>>47203543
That's hilarious.
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>>47204085
This... Can't be real, right? This is a joke?
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>>47202726
>how much do I power attack for

Wow, such varied option
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>>47203406
WUZ
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>>47200372
OD&D is either a weird way to play Chainmail or a slightly more schizophrenic AD&D, both are interesting but I wouldn't call them perfect.
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>>47204167
KANGZ
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>>47203990
You can make a char who started as a fighter plenty good at level 10. Fighter 6, bloodstorm blade 4.
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>>47204231
The neutronium golem is pretty much just a joke monster, in case it wasn't obvious. It has no role within the book it was designed for, can't actually be made by time lords, and has about 10x the CR as it should.
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>>47204356
This is one of those images where it turns into something horrible when you expand it, doesn't it

>click

Yup, I thought so
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>>47204255

I know I just like posting it
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>>47200646
A gender change potion ranges from 500gp (that's what a spell like that would actually cost) to 2250 (the one that actually exists in the rules).

Even a commoner with a single rank in craft or profession (and absolutely no other bonuses) taking 10 on every roll could afford a gender change potion in roughly 4 years, it gets easier when you do stuff like take skill focus, account for trained class skills and have a decent statline... like three or four times as fast.
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>>47200646
Why the fuck would Paizo put in gender change potions and not have NPCs use them?

like changing trueform gender is harder than coming back from the dead in vanilla D&D.
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