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Alpha Edition?

Why not start a casual general? I'm assuming it's because this board has a lot of non-casuals but let's try.

1st Question: Why is this guy not used a whole lot?
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>>47193655
He was used a lot in my group of friends with zada, until someone looked up the Zada ruling that said the spell copies don't have casting triggers.
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Why do I not see the managorger hydra+hardened scales combo anymore? Shit was cash in a game with 3 or more players.
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>>47193674
I have a copy, what types of decks do I use it in though?
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>>47193697
>hardened scales
anon... rotation was a month ago
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>>47193655
two colors, lower bonus than wee dragonauts in exchange for haste and toughness which is...meh
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>>47194148
Cheaper though

2 drop 1/3 with flying haste and prowess is neat
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KING OF CASUAL COMING THROUGH
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shit
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>>47194204
by one, also I forgot dragonauts were also 1/3, so it's literally just less bonus for cheaper and haste.
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>>47194119
>rotation
I'm not sure if you understand the concept of casual.
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>>47194352
One mana less matters a lot in low land decks, which the kiln fiend type ones want to be.
Haste also helps with "abra kadabra you're dead" out of nowhere.
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>>47194352
pretty much.

I like him because I can cast him early and have enough mana in the early game to play a spell along with him to trigger prowess.
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>>47193655
I fucking love playing casual
Keep at it, OP

Just ordered Emrakul and some bad boy artifacts im going to put in my artifact deck, such as Fist of Suns, Sol Ring and Quicksilver Amulet
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>>47194577
Thanks lad

Let's keep this thread alive to garner a little attention
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I have a fun Legacy RG Eldrazi List that I'm trying to make fun for my casual friends by increasing the size of the deck to 100 cards. Do any of you guys like playing with huge decks for fun?
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>>47195237
Eh, maybe for commander.

What's this decklist involve?
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I made a shitty monoblack modern deck because some of my friends are converting to modern and I wanted something low tier to play fair against their hybrid modern/standard decks. Plus it's my favorite color.

http://www.mtgvault.com/creativetheory/decks/mono-black/

Thoughts?
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I asked in the EDH thread, but I suppose here makes more sense.

The old Tezzeret vs. Elspeth looks pretty fun, and I like both walkers. How was that box?
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>>47195563
Dash hopes is hot garbage.
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>>47194267
A friend gave me a box filled with cards he wasn't using anymore a few months back
There was some useful stuff in it but also like 10 of those.
What does it do? Where is it used?
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>>47194577
I thought about putting this in my Scion of the Ur Dragon commander deck.
Question is, does it ignore the commander tax?
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>>47193655
I would play this over Wee Dragonauts, which was the previous go-to for this kind of a card. Being one mana cheaper makes all of the difference. I'd much rather start chaining cantrips on turn 3 than turn 4 and Stormchaser is better against toughness-based removal and as a blocker.
I really like the card for casual.
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>>47196133
You're kinda stupid, huh?
Read the card and think about what it does.
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>>47193655
>/cmg/
i love the idea of a casual magic general!
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>>47196039
Very good value in its time. Tezzeret and Elspeth are both great cards and there's some very powerful stuff in there like the 2 Swords to Plowshares.
If you can find it close to RRP, go for it.
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>>47196133
Theyre lands.
The more locus lands you have out, the more powerful they become.

Example: You have 4x Cloudpost on the battlefield, each granting 4 colorless mana (due to the number of Locus lands you have) , for a total of 16 colorless mana.
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>>47196143
Dunno anon.
I wish I could help you but Im not really familiar with EDH
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>>47196143
Fist of Suns only replaces the manacost. It doesn't let you ignore the tax.
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>>47196143
Yep it dos.
Must have card in every 5 color EDH
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>>47193818
Izzet/jeskai prowess, throw him alongside some mage ring bullies and swiftspears, theyll sweep the board for you while the flyer is getting you consistant damage. Also if you picked up a few pyromancers goggles before they spiked those help a lot when you transition into the lategame, the copy doesnt "cast" but pumping two guys instead of one will quickly get you too much advantage for your opponent to deal with unless theyre playing fog banks and shit.
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>>47196190
so it is just a stupid and most of time useless land that taps for colorless?
and here I thought you could do some cool gimmicky stuff with it
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>>47196617
Do you think I'm trolling because I thought it could be better than it is or because it's better than i make it out to be.
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>>47196709
I guess he is thinking you're trolling us because the locus lands are one of the best ramp-lands ever printed next to the tron lands.

playing 4 of each locus and 4 vesuve gives you a ramp that is so fast you drop close to every existing eldrazi in turn 3 to 4.

Look at the deck called 12-Post if you like to know more about how strong the Locus lands realy are.
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>>47196772
I see, so they're actually pretty good.
Well I'm fairly new to playing mtg non casually (since last fall) and even then I mostly play commander and since it's singleton, ah whatever.
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http://www.mtgvault.com/danitho/decks/mono-red-dragon-deck/

What do you guys think about my mono red Dragon deck? Any inputs?
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>>47196911
Looks playable to me, but don't build Dragons mono-red only. Dragons should be red-green oder red-blue or (what i can't recommend) red-black. My casual-dragons is a grixis (red-blue-black) build around Nicol Bolas (creature also as planeswalker).

If you play mono-red dragons you miss some of the best possibilitys to play, protect and use your dragons.
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>>47196143
No it does not. It's an alternative cost, meaning extra costs still apply on top of it. Cost reductions are the only thing that can negate extra costs and this is not one.
Same thing with Rooftop Storm and Zombie commanders.
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>>47196911
Way too few reliable mana sources. Dragonmaster Outcast will never live against an opponent with any kind of removal because it's the only removal target until you hit 6 mana. Seething Song only casts one Dragon and leaves the rest stranded in your hand. It's cute with your 1 Dragonstorm, but overall not a good effect in a deck like this. 20 lands is super low for a deck with such high curve, you're unlikely to hit more than your first 3-4 land drops reliably. You want to be able to start casting your dragons before turn 6 reliably and keep casting them as long as you have them.
I'd look into cards like Mind Stone and Hedron Archive that ramp you into your dragons and mitigate flooding. And more lands, up to 24. Cycling lands or other lands with some additional utility are good if you're afraid of drawing too many.
Style points for being monored. Adding another color instantly makes your deck better though. At the moment you don't have good ways to deal with creatures that have more than 4 toughness or many other things. This is a big choice and I understand if you want to stay monocolored.
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>>47197147
>http://www.mtgvault.com/danitho/decks/mono-red-dragon-deck/
>Dragonmaster Outcast
Meant Dragonspeaker Shaman
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>>47196168
I was pretty hyped to see Swords to Plowshares in that box. I think it's sitting around fifty American, so still well above RRP, but I'll keep an eye open.

What do you do with duel decks after you've played with them a bunch? What's the intended long-term use of the product?
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>>47197740
Well there's a couple ways you can go about it.
You can keep them sleeved up as they are, in their own double deckbox, to bust open when you want to play them against each other with somebody.
Most duel decks aren't perfectly balanced or the optimal powerlevel for enjoyment, so you might tweak them more to your liking. Just beware of putting too many 4-ofs in, it detracts greatly from the casual nature of duel decks.
You can even try to balance more than 2 duel decks to the same powerlevel, which is an interesting deckbuilding challenge.

Or you just take them apart for the singles. This is what ended up happening to all my duel decks since they were never interesting enough to warrant keeping them anywhere close to intact.
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Hey guys, Seth here. Probably better known as SaffronOlive and today we are going to do a budget Magic deck using Pyromancers goggles
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>>47197147
Thanks lads, solid inputs. Appreciate that.
I might branch out to green then (easier to ramp up), then maybe add another color I feel like it.
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Should I get the MTG origins clash pack for those dank cards?
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>>47198294
ok
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>>47198922
Yes, do it
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>>47199262
What if I didn't?
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>>47193655
I actually use him in my deck mixed with a bunch of Goblin Electromancers and Narset.
Cast all sorts of spells dirt cheap with a small chance of adding rebound to them.
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>>47199351
Don't worry about it. It doesn't really matter. Get SOI packs.
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Posting some of my casual decks.

And yes, this deck is all foil.
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>>47200134
Are you the kind of guy who fuels his FoW using Time Walks?
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>>47200134
please tell me those are proxies or you're independently wealthy
i'd sell all that shit and put a down payment on a house if i were you
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>>47200134
>black lotus

Noob casual here, thats crazy fuckin cool

What edition?
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>>47196828
Mana = good
More mana = better

There I cracked the code for you.
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>>47196911
Needs green for ATARKA, WORLD RENDER
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>>47200211
Not usually. Typically, FoW will fuel FoW. I usually don't need more than two or three turns with that deck.

>>47200332
All my power are beta. Funny thing is, I started back in 96 or 97. And I bought this guy's collection for $60. And traded shit to build this deck. I wish sleeves existed back then. Because none of them are higher than a grade 7 condition. If they were, I'd have sent them in to be graded and cased.
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>>47200699
Even still thats hella cool.
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>>47200054
>>47200080
>>47200089
>>47200103
>>47200122
>>47200134
Goddamn dude, thats awesome
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>>47200089
This deck is completely changed now. I need to make an updated pic.
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>>47201265
>>47201221
Thank you both. I only have a couple of really competitive decks. And try to build most of my decks to just be fun and now just walk all over anyone I just meet or that's just getting into MtG.
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>>47200134
Oh, and my newest deck.
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so i am getting a couple friends into magic and i wanted some ideas for a low powered jund deck that keeps the disruption theme but is a bit easier on the opponent. So far ive got rakdos augermage, putrid leech, a terminates, putrefy and jund charm

anybody have any other ideas or should i just not use jund
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>>47202272

> sol ring x4

c'mon dawg
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>>47202627
Not him, b-but what's wrong with 4 Sol Rings?
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>>47193655
>1st Question: Why is this guy not used a whole lot?
Because most casual players hate blue players, since blue is the antithesis of casual fun.
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>>47198294
i think im addicted to those videos and i dont even play magic that much (a few times a month at most)
i love his voice and enthusiasm

no homo
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>>47202627
It's a casual deck and it's pretty slow without them.
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>>47202686
sol rings are pretty busted. 1 mana to cast, for a permanent that taps to add 2 colorless mana.

banned in legacy as well. it just leading to an unfair ramp advantage. this is coming from a guy who's casual meta allows for demonic tutors.
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>>47202686
well, sol ring in itself is very powerful, it's crazy fast ramp. I know my playgroup usually plays "bad vintage" respecting the restricted list (with some exceptions, like brainstorm which is much less dangerous when you're bad) which includes sol ring.
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>>47202821
>Because most casual players hate blue players, since blue is the antithesis of casual fun.
But that's just blatantly wrong :( Nothing unfun with Illusion or Spirit tribal for example.
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>>47202473
Don't start out using three colors with them.
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>>47202884
>>47202908
This all depends on how competitive you make the deck. The Eldrazi Rite deck really isnt broken just because of a playset of Sol Rings.
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>>47203059
Tribal a shit. Why do other casuals love it so much?
It just makes me think of yugioh with their rigid, pre-baked archetypes. It's not that bad but gives me the same vibes and is so boring.
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>>47196190
plus the other locus lands ( the ones that give you life when they drop) and eventually each one taps for ---> 8 <--- mana a land
so it reads: Tap add 8 to your mana pool, plus any other land you have... with decent land dropping cards it is serious sequence breaking and can win quickly
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>>47203175
If you think tribal is shit, you need to take a look at top tier Elves, Goblins, Merfolk, and Slivers.

Also, it's just a fun theme for a card game.

And I'm sorry that you had to suffer through YGO. No one should have to endure that kind of tragedy.
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What do you guys think about this deck
>creatures
gutter skulk x4
typhoid rats x4
blood cultist x1
ogre slumlord x3
bloodcrazed neonate x1
heirs of stromkirk x1
butcher of malakir x1
hardened berserker x1
indulgent tormentor x1
reassembling skeleton x1
sanitarium skeleton x1
drainpipe vermin x2
merciless executioner x1
mogis, god of slaughter x1
>instants
terminate x1
expunge x1
lighting strike x1 (will prob replace with DB)
breath of malfegor x2
alter's reap x1
>sorcery
bone splinters x1
browbeat x1
>enchantments
painful quandary x1
dictate of erebos x1
shadows of the past x1
tainted remedy x1
grave betrayal x1
virulent plague x1
>artifacts
sol ring x3
profane memento x1
gem of becoming x1
lands
mountains x6
swamps x8
akoum refuge x2
temple of malice x2
rakdos carnarium x1

so whats your opinion on it?
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>>47202821
You say that to my face, not online
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>>47202841
MTG Goldfish is my favorite MTG YouTube channel. They come up with some cool budget brews.
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Hello anon.
Im getting into MTG, wanna get a deck to play against roughly any deck, with a fun "big" mechanic at the basis of it (think resilience, equipment...)
What deck would best fit this spot, to you ?
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>>47204401
I heard the bfz event deck was actually good and had strong cards in it, so you can start there and upgrade it to serve a more specialized role
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>>47204401
>>47205339
yeah i got that one, it's pretty consistent and when you have the nuts it gets out of control damn fast
its also good value iirc
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Evaluate this deck for quality please. What would you call this deck archetype, anyways?

I realize I need more of the good lands and shit. I'm on a little bit of a shoestring budget so nothing too expensive.
1 Jace, Unraveler of Secrets
1 Narset Transcendent

1 Vessel of Nascency
2 Vessel of Ephemera
2 Ulvenwald Mysteries
1 Oath of Nissa
1 Oath of Jace
1 Oath of Gideon
1 Invocation of Saint Traft

1 Collected Company
1 Dromoka’s Command
1 Disperse
1 Negate
1 Valorous Stance + 1 Valorous Stance
2 Ojutai’s Command
2 Angelic Purge
3 Not Forgotten

1 Citadel Castellan
1 Uninvited Geist – Unimpeded Trespasser
1 Yasova Dragonclaw
2 Jeskai Sage
2 Duskwatch Recruiter - Krallenhorde Howler
2 Hermit of Natterknolls - Lone Wolf of the Natterknolls
2 Reaper of Flight Moonsilver
2 Warden of the First Tree
2 Reflector Mage
2 Prophet of Kruphix

4 Plains
4 Island
4 Forest
1 Port Town (White/Blue)
2 Thornwood Falls (Green/Blue)
1 Windswept Heath (Green/White)
2 Woodland Stream (Green/Blue)
1 Tranquil Cove (White/Blue)
1 Blossoming Sands (White/Green)
8 White, 10 Blue, 10 Green
POTENTIAL NEW Sideboard: 12
2 Ongoing Investigation
3 Second Harvest
2 Dispel
2 Just the Wind
2 Stasis Snare
1 Valorous Stance

>>47205391
Too bad they ended the event decks, they were pretty great.
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Okay, if I bought every common from ORI/BFZ/OGW/SOI, would there be enough variety for a shitty cube? Want to get back into MtG, but haven't played sense 7th ed.
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>>47202686
If you draw all 4 in your hand with 1 basic land you'll have 9 mana at the beginning of T2. Most decks cannot survive a kozilek, ulamog, or void winnower on T2 or 3.
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Wombo Combos that actually fired off for once?
>Playing a 1v1v1 with friends
>Friend B plays ulamog and exiles my best stuff
>Friend O sighs and takes his turn to Chris out a plant token to block.
>I summon eyeless watcher and put gift of immortality on it.
>Friend B swings at me with ulamog, block with eyeless and use the eyeless watcher's etb for 2 more scions. Then exile top 20 cards.
>Friend O puts splinter twin on a etb support 2 creature, then pity swings at me so I'll block with eyeless and 2 more scions.
>Current field is 6 scions, an eyeless watcher, and a matter reshaper with enough lands to cast anything.
>Draw deceiver of form and start praying.
>Play it since nobody is playing blue.
>Slowly flip top card.
>Void winnower. Swing for 44 unblockable at both friends since all their creatures had even mana costs.
>Laugh heartily
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>>47196096
Oh most certainly, but it's fun
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>>47194392
Just because you don't play standard doesn't mean it ceases to exist.

Nobody plays that combo any more because the people who played it in standard have new decks now. Everyone else is obviously free to use it, but since you can do whatever you want in casual, people tend to have lots of different types of decks.
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>guys at work see me looking up magic cards on gather.
>ask me if i want to play with them during lunch tomorrow.
> i ask what format.
>they look at each other in bewilderment.
>i say never mind, im down since they must be casuals.
>my modern and standard decks are too good, stop by wallmart to buy a precon after work.
>next day at lunch, sit down to play, everyone is channeling and oathing out eldrazi or casting upheaval while floating 15 mana, or casting the most unfair balance of all time.

>
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Rate my legacy casual fuck-around deck:

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/simic-casual-play/
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>>47206689
>friend has "casual deck" he's been putting together and improving since high school
>it's UW control/pillow fort
>last time I saw him the win condition was time warp + panoptic mirror
>sit down to play after not seeing him for a few years
>t1 plains, sol ring, isochron scepter imprinting orim's chant, go
>I'm sitting there with my monogreen stompy deck wondering if I left any naturalizes in or replaced them with reclamation sages
>do nothing for more turns than I cared to count
>his win condition was jace's erasure
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>>47207342
Timmy turned into the power player
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>>47206689
>started playing mtg two months ago with a friend who has been playing since high school
>end up getting competitive, win about 50%
>we decide to try out xmage
>he builds a deck that has crushed me every time and i don't want to play magic
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>>47208248
Ask him about how he built his deck
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>>47208306
he just looked up "landfall" on gatherer
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>he pulls out a busted vintage deck
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>>47208316
Maybe this is a sign that you should try improving your deck building skills. I'm guessing you don't have a lot of experience if you've been playing for only two months. There are plenty of guides on the internet.
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>>47208564
i haven't built anything new since he started playing it, we're going to a draft friday and i'm pretty confident i can do better than he can there
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Don't die on me, thread. I like casual threads.
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>>47211264
I don't know what this reaction image implies.
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>>47193697
Hydra gets played in vintage because just after one turn it can threathen lethal.
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>>47202841
I love them too. They were the reason I got into modern.
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>>47202272
Cool
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>>47211298
Not knowing the king of all casual normies.

https://youtu.be/sl7_WblWwDk
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>>47211581

Do the infinite squirrel tech
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>>47211596
Too vulnerable to creature-killing and takes a turn to get ready.
Use Liquidmetal Coating instead.
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>>47212179
no you
I don't know it
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Bumping with the most un-used enchantment ever.
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Can someone post a good Myr deck for me?
Any tips and tricks would be appreciated as well
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Is lightning bolt acceptable as casual or no?
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>>47215080
are these types of plays legal?
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>>47215094
In Legacy only believe.

Here is a vid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M19tISiqawg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATtpH2DVLFA
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>>47215094
>>47215124
They are legal in any format the cards are legal in. This includes casual, unless your friends suck.
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>>47215124
That one is in modern too.
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>>47215160
What do you mean?
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>>47215080
HE DID IT! THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN!!
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>>47215277
Never mind, Squirrel Nest confused me with the new card frame, it's only Legacy, you were right.
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>>47215327
squirrel nest isn't modern legal
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>>47215080
kek
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>>47203623
try tappedout, no one will bother to google cards, especially in casual
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>>47213801
I'm wondering if this isn't an acceptable replacement for Moat. The big issue would be larger creatures of course.
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>>47217022
it's a different card to moat in a lot of ways. if all you want is something to stop little swarms going at you it'll do, but moat no sells 50% of all attacks, and lets you work around it with even something cheap and stupid like fleeting image, or your own swarm from storm herd or dovescape or what have you
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>>47217007
i wrote a chrome plugin that automatically highlights and brings up thumbnails if you put [[braces]] around cards with the intention being to use it on /tg/
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Haha time for decklists!

>Every 2/1 CMC 1 Human.dec

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/twenty-21-w-creatures/

>For those times when you want a deck that folds to a single Naturalize

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/04-04-16-enchantments/

>For those times when you want you victory decided based solely on your opening hand

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/ceta-hunt/

>Sun Titan wombo combo.dec

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/sunny-t/

>Elves with a dash of B

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/13-02-16-elf-tribal/

>Infinite combos

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/enduring-injury/
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