Magic: The Gathering Modern General
(competitive discussion)
>Playing?
>Brewing?
>Favorite deck?
>Next MTG Purchase?
Do you like the current Modern Metagame?
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The current Modern Metagame.
>>47192557
Been playing the UWR Nahiri deck online and it seems great. Going to build it in paper.
>>47192568
I'm back to Jund, but just can't seem to like Kalitas very much. I mean sure, he's a very good hate card for Abzan Company and is also pretty solid against BGx and even URx to some degree, but in other matchups he feels like a very slow stabilizer, which I find way too sluggish in the aggro matchups like Burn. In some matchups he just feels horrible and makes me question why I even play it.
>>47192568
It's not bad, but the deck names could really use some help.
>>47190943
Sorry to everyone who replied something came up and I had to leave computer. This is my kitchen table deck and im wondering if I can play with the big kids on modern night.
I don't know what the modern people play, I'm usually a standard or EDH player I've heard the owner talking to a regular about scapeshift and affinity though if that counts for anything
>>47193113
>I've heard the owner talking to a regular about scapeshift and affinity though if that counts for anything
Are you suggesting that the owner talking about meta decks means that those decks necessarily see play at that store?
>>47192568
>storm not even tier 3
Feels bad
what's a fun control deck that doesn't feel like you're just prolonging the game infinitely
>>47193074
>Jund
10/10
>Burn
That's alright, much classier than Red Deck Wins and more obvious than Sligh
>Abzan Company
Its name has been debated ever since it became a thing, but Abzan Company is by far the best. We had stupid shit like "No Pod Melira" and "Anafenza CoCo" and it was a mess.
>Affinity
The legacy of its name should not be defied. 10/10
>Infect
Not sure what else it could be. Poison could be cool, but Infect is what people are used to.
>Tron
See Affinity.
>Jeskai
10/10
>Zoo
Animals beating face. Probably the best deck name out there for Modern.
>Merfolk
IMO it's better than Fish and there's no real alternative.
>Scapeshift
No problem here. Valakut could also work, but Scapeshift is the card people see before scooping.
>Abzan
10/10, objectively better than Junk because it runs Siege Rhino, the ultimate Abzan card of Khans of Tarkir.
>Kiki Chord
No real alternative and the name immediately tells us what the deck is about.
>Grixis
10/10
>Ad Nauseam
Can't be much else. Could be Lightning Storm. See Scapeshift.
>Death and Taxes
See Affinity.
>Titan Shift
It's okay. I do like RG Valakut or even RG Scapeshift better though.
>Elves
Can't be much else.
>Bogles
It's either that, Hexproof (like Infect) or Auras. Bogles is the name all people know though, but I'll give you that Auras could work.
>Living End
See Ad Nauseam.
>Eldrazi
See Elves.
>Naya Company
It's either that or "Big Zoo", which is poor.
>Goblins
See Elves.
>Suicide Zoo
I like this one, but I could see Death Zoo or Shadow Zoo work, or even simply Death's Shadow.
>Lantern Control
Should be Lantern. It's a prison deck. Also the old name "Top Control" is horrible because THE Top is not Modern-legal.
>Blue Moon
It's cute. UR Moon also works I guess.
>Grixis Delver
See Elves.
>Temur
10/10
>UR Delver
See Elves.
>Griselbrand
I like Grishoalbrand, but Griselbrand works too. Goryo's Vengeance would be nice too.
>Mardu
10/10
>Taking Turns
I like Turns better.
>Dredgevine
I love this one.
>>47192568
>Wizards does unbans finally
>Tier 1 is literally not even touched
I wonder if they'll notice they could unban a lot more
>>47193424
Temur Scapeshift, BTL Scapeshift
>>47193424
Blue Moon
>>47193447
Jeskai is on the rise to Tier 1, it's a matter of days.
>>47193424
RDW.
>>47193469
Should I invest in Jeskai or will it get banned?
>>47193447
It's going to take some time. Those decks have been staples since Modern was a thing.
>>47193527
Before anyone says this guy is wrong.
>HURR DURR ABZAN COMPANY
It's just Pod reborn.
>>47192568
Should Affinity still be considered Tier 1 if it gets consistently blown the fuck out Day 1? Lots of people are playing it, but evidently it is no longer good. TWELVE decks in T2/3 have higher Day 2 percentages despite less overall play, so aren't they statistically better?
>>47193424
Faeries. Bitterblossom means one of you is guaranteed to die in 15 turns.
>>47192568
>Infect
>Tier 1
I've been living under a rock since 2013. Just what thefuck happened? How can that pile of trash be tier 1 when my jund and affinity decks won ton of matches vs infect meme players?
>>47193605
You really have been under a rock friend.
Go play your Jund against infect sometime, it'll be hilarious when games 2 and 3 you get maimed.
>>47193512
>Invest
This is a purchase to play a game for an extended period of time, not the stock market. If you want to make more money than the money you want to "invest", you have much better alternatives.
And Jeskai is not ban-worthy and they will definetely not ban a piece of a fair deck anytime soon, because they usually struggle in Modern.
>>47193584
Tiers are based on usage, not power level. There could be a very powerful deck we don't know about yet or an under-explored deck like Amulet Bloom waiting to be optimized.
>>47193629
>And Jeskai is not ban-worthy and they will definetely not ban a piece of a fair deck anytime soon
This. A million times.
One thing people seem to struggle to understand is that Fair Decks don't hardly get the axe, ever.
And if they do, it's because something else got the axe, and they just so happened to have been playing that something.
>>47193679
Weren't DRS and BBE banned almost solely due to jund?
>>47193430
Legacy naming style time.
>Jund
Rock
>Burn
Boss Sligh
>Abzan Company
Heroin Overdose
>Affinity
Affinity
>Infect
Revenge of the Dilu Horse
>Tron
Karn's Konsumate Kikery
>Jeskai
Team France
>Zoo
Zoo
>Merfolk
Tempo Fish
>Scapeshift
Toast w/ Jam (Strawberry)
>Abzan
Rock
>Kiki Chord
Kashi™ Heart-to-Heart All-Natural Breakfast Cereal
>Grixis
Mono-blue Control
>Ad Nauseam
Beans
>Death and Taxes
Death and Taxes
>Titan Shift
Big Green Men
>Elves
Little Green Men
>Bogles
Zoo
>Living End
Sunny Side Down
>Eldrazi
Spaghetti Breakfast
>Naya Company
Zoo
>Goblins
*muffled REEEEE from Miracles player*
>Suicide Zoo
Zoo
>Lantern Control
19Tezz
>Blue Moon
Mono-blue Control
>Grixis Delver
Tempo Fish
>Temur
Pile of Canadian Shit
>Mardu
Shit from Italia
>Taking Turns
Mono-blue Control :^)
>Dredgevine
Unban Survival
>>47193731
>>Infect
>Revenge of the Dilu Horse
Infinite keks, anon
>>47193619
>still perpetuating the infect beats jund meme
Wew lad
>>47193731
I just vomitted seven times
>>47193707
You are correct, but I would like to argue that those pushed the deck past the 'fair' status we're all familiar with.
Also, DRS was banned in part because of a few dredge archetypes and gifts.
>>47193430
So you just want every deck to be named exactly what its colors and defining cards are? You're super boring.
>>47194137
It's just easier for communication.
>>47194191
It's just easier for being a boring guy. I bet you don't even like Bugs n' Thugs.
>>47194200
Oh yeah I remember that name. Its only purpose in life was to be a tool for shitposting.
>>47194251
>deck had bugs
>had thugs
>implying it wasn't a legitimate name
>>47194308
People liked this name ironically. If they legitimately liked it, the name would have stuck.
>>47194354
It's more that if the deck was good enough to stick around, the name would have stuck. It was one guy getting to day2 with it, and the deck hasn't been seen since.
>>47192582
How consistently can you cast Emrakul and how good is Nahiri for utility when you can not?
>>47193113
I've seen worse
I have burn bogles and 8whack
I want to cheaply diversify out of aggro decks, where do I go next
>>47194721
Would you like control, combo or a mix of both?
Also what's your budget? Are there specific cards you really want to see in your deck?
>>47194721
>I have burn bogles and 8whack
>file
Lost it
>>47194851
Budget is 400 starting and I will upgrade it to the full version as I go
Honestly I have no preference as of yet seeing as I haven't really played either, the closest to Combo I've played is through the breach and I enjoyed it but don't feel it's super competitive.
I fee like I'd like to play something blue as the only blue Card I run in any of my decks is slippery Boyle and he's simic...
Just some fun suggestions would be nice
>>47194881
I'm aware
>>47194957
A fun deck I played for a whole while is UW gifts tron, it's also tries to resurrect a bomb creature from the graveyard. Recently the thoptersword unbanning made an extra push for the deck.
example decklist: http://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/modern-uw-tron-25157#paper
So basically you have 3 combos going on with gifts ungiven:
Either gifts only Iona/Elesh and Unburial rites, making both go to the graveyard and resurrecting next turn.
Either gifts Academy ruins, Mindslaver, Crucible, smth else to be able to cast mindslaver every turn.
Either gifts the thopter sword combo with crucible and academy ruins.
Other than that the deck could consistenly win by wiping the board and colonnade beats (note if you gifts for wrath, day and supreme you get a fieldwipe in hand regardless. So you're basically playing 7 fieldwipes)
>>47194957
Also if you are EU based by any chance, I'm selling some UW gifts pieces ;)
>>47195115
I'm an Americlap, sorry. :(
>>47195192
Regardless, even with the gifts ungiven spike, the deck is fairly budget and pretty customizable
>>47195078
That deck looks cool, but i think it would lose badly to infect and afinity . Burn, too.
>>47195648
I had some infect matchups which didn't turn out that bad, from what I can remember I had a 50-50 chance due to path and wipes. I didn't play against affinity with the deck so I can't speak for that. Burn wasn't too bad due to the excellent sideboard option you have in white. This should be the same case for affinity now I think of it.
>>47195648
Though, if you're looking for other decks:
UW (emeria) titan control. Play good ETB <3 cmc creatures (wall of omens, clique, lone missionary etc etc) in a control shell and get a sun titan engine going on, optionally add some Emeria, the sky ruin.
Budget 8rack. Basically 8rack without lili's, but playing Necrogen Mists. I played this too for a while. Though it can really use the lili's, hence I'm ordering some from chinamen, hope they turn out allright. This deck makes your opponent discard all of his shit with both targeted and untargeted discard. then it bleed him to death with The Rack and Shrieking Affliction. Very fun deck to play, very annoying to play against.
What's your favorite list forelves?
>>47195778
12 llanowar elves
some other ramping elves and visionaries
some lords I guess I dunno
maybe a coco or two
it's fucking elves, what do you want?
What is the best gifts deck currently?
>>47193731
This guy gets it
i heard about the best way to buy counterfeit cards but I can't find the ones from Canada as opposed to China.
Anyone know about this?
>>47195978
Try asking some guys under bridges, they generally know whats up
>>47196011
>]
they keep wanting handjobs.
time to get to work.
>>47192568
>Elves
>Day 2 % is 5.0%
I am really perplexed by this. I play Elves and Jund and Scapeshift aren't good matchups for the deck yet for a deck that just represents 2% of the meta and showing up to a whopping 5% on day 2 is really interesting.
>>47193113
Son, get some Eternal Witness and Genesis Wave in there and you can play ETERNAL WAVE.
>>47195978
Villa Zheng is your best bet
>>47191842
>>47191878
>>47191800
Thanks for replies, if I enjoy playing blue and black the most what would be the best non-merfolk approach? Not really interested in playing zoo or burn.
>>47196972
If you like playing blue and black your best bet is to playlegacy
>>47196972
Mono U Tron is a semi-viable Mono U deck. It's also not too expensive(it used to be ridiculously dirt cheap but couple of spikes on cards like Academy Ruins, Chalice of the Void etc.)
It used to have a really bad aggro matchup but Spatial Contortion has made it much easier to manage. It has good matchups against other control and combo decks though. Your primary method of winning is Mindslaver lock but you can still win via other avenues of Wurmcoil/Platinum Angel beatdown as well.
>>47197066
I didn't mean strictly in sense of playing mono blue or black. Can be UB, UW, BR, etc. I'd just prefer playing a control deck from those colors if possible.
>>47196972
UB faeries is a viable t3 deck.
It uses disruption and control elements and bitterblossom to flood the board with faeries, and uses other faeries that synergise with faeries.
>>47196972
Fairies
>>47193731
I wish all decks were given names just like this
>>47193424
There is a brew of jeskai control that plays Nahiri and Emrakul as a wincon. Jeff Boohoogland brewed it and apparently it's bretty good.
What's the best gifts list? I have been using 4c gifts for a while now and I might change it up.
>>47192568
>storm not listed
Is it really that bad?
Just started playing Ad Nauseam. What do people think about Spoils of the Vault? About 80% of the times i xast it I think the card is broken and the rest of the time it exiles lightning storm and 2 ssg's and i fucking die.
So why is he still worth $10? Same for Ajani Vengeant, though that one makes more sense.
>>47198524
Also interested. Got settled into a well paying job so now I'm staring down the barrel of more disposible income than I know what to do with and have always wanted to build either gifts or american control.
>>47198572
Price memory, hasn't been hit with a ban in any format (due to not seeing play) so there hasn't been a fast dip in demand.
>>47198572
Ajani is a actually good
I would guess Nicol Bolas is still a decent price because
1. he's a planeswalker
2. he's a dragon
3. EDH / collector / whatever
Still no playable WR lists?
Can we save the best Guild?
>>47198768
Play burn without nacatl or atarka's command.
>>47198768
But anon, Simic is UG.
>>47198572
Playable in Legacy Eureka-Tell:^)
Just bought a Bayou from based CHINAMAN Villa. What to expect?
>>47195943
They're all memes.
>>47199259
Expect a shitty fake and loss of pride.
>>47199423
This one looks pretty good.
Got a playset of foil Goblin Guides recently
>>47199570
They look nice
>>47199526
I don't know if it's the sleeve, the camera, or something else, but that card looks like it's warped and concave. Doesn't look very legitimate.
>>47193731
>unban survival
modern tournament on xmage
come join
is gabyspartz actually good at mtg? saw her streaming and she was 1-3 in a fucking casual league
>>47200083
>1-3 in casual
You answered your own question anon.
>>47200097
yeah but Wizards are shilling her practically everywhere so I thought she has to be at least remotely good, since Melissa DeTora was actually kinda good
she's a qtie though
>>47198768
Boros burn is good.
Norin Sisters (Boros humans maybe?) and Heroic are also fringe playable decks.
>>47200083
She's "popular" because she's a girl that plays MTG. She's the perfect player for an SCG Open Round 1 on stream because she is "popular" (more viewers) and it promotes women in Competitive Magic, yet she always goes 0-3.
>>47200083
She's a Magic personality, not a pro.
>>47200165
Numot (Kenji) is also a magical personality and happens to be good at the game. A lot of magic personalities are, and should be, good at the game.
>>47200165
>>47200202
Literally who are these people
>>47200125
You know who's good at the game and a girl? Jadine Klomparens on tcg player. But she gets no press because she's not pretty. Meanwhile Gabby Spartz has wizards fawning all over her when she cant even string a sentence together during a feature match.
>>47200288
Anon, the worth of a woman is measured solely by her appearance
>>47192568
Eldrazi is not on the list at all so I'm perfectly fine with it
>>47199570
I just titled my phone to try and see the shimmer, kek
>>47200363
Eldrazi is high Tier 3 and is actually much better than people think. Gerry Thompson had a good run with RG Eldrazi recently and the deck can compete, we just need to test more in order to find the optimized list.
i just played against modern land destruction...
wtf
>>47200074
I am already in there anon
>>47200202
Being good at the game isn't required to be a Magic personality, though. For them, it's just an added benefit.
In other news some dudes gf was cybering with Frank Lepore.
I dunno was Frank and Melissa together or anything?
>>47200461
That's how internet celebrities are these days. It's the same with video games and now probably the same with MTG. The worse you are at something the more popular you are. Skill is no longer venerated, you have to be bad at something now.
>>47200396
Did they win?
>>47200396
DANK dweller stone rain 2 gud
>>47200632
no lol, i had really convenient land topdecks and im playing burn
>tfw can't find foils anywhere for your pet deck
Skred and koth were not meant to be shiny I guess
>>47200074
Well I won that tournament. Won by default in last game.
>>47201197
I can't find any fucking Snow-Covered Mountains nearby.
>>47201331
Yea they're scarce. I'm just lucky I had some from when ice age was out
>>47201331
>>47201537
I wish the modo ones were available in paper
>>47201667
I don't play modo
what do they look like?
>>47202082
Very similar, just a little cleaner and the big mana symbol.
>>47199570
Are you going to play with it? If so, why did you buy cased, graded cards?
>>47198616
yeah to be fair, that card is FANTASTIC in edh. Especially 5c decks with doubling season (scion, 5c superfriends)
>>47201197
>koth
There is a dual deck version dude
>>47202404
Yea I don't like the art.
>>47202489
Speaking of Skred.
What's a good way to get moons, and how many magus have you been running?
>>47202917
I have never run Magus and I only run 3 moons. I find the deck can stand on it's own without the mana hosing since the meta is heavily creature based.
The threat of moon is so real I even take them out post board and people will still play around it and even keep shitty hands that can deal with enchantments
As far as getting moons, I don't quite know what you mean. Order them online if you don't have any trades?
>>47203201
Well, let me phrase it this way.
I am poor, very poor.
I have trades, but I don't know what people are willing to trade off moons for.
I just wanted to hear somebody else's experience.
How's this for a gifts deck? Just whipped it together.
>>47203391
four snapcasters?
Why?
>>47203391
I like the flash on it,also I had some spots over
>>47203390
Oh, I see. Honestly I just bought some rough looking moons from the dark and called it a day.
If you really can't afford any moons, molten rain is a replacement. Nowhere near as strong but it's a good card for the deck. Makes dank dwellers better if you decide to run them too
>>47203391
sembra carino
>>47203678
Sorry bro, not Italian. Bought the cards on mcm. Foreign cards generally are cheaper. Thanks though. Any tips?
>>47203709
let us know about the manabase
>>47203737
This
Quit being a faggot, show us your lands
>>47203391
>>47203737
>>47203795
Lands on the bottom are in my infect deck so I will be able to put those in. Still looking to tweak the manabase.
>>47193572
Infect. So he is wrong.
>>47198768
Nigger what kind of crack are you smoking?
Boros burn is very playable. And there are top 8's to prove it.
>>47193659
On what planet are tiers not power level?
>>47204206
Every actually.
>>47199259
If you got the Revised, it is pretty passable. It is going to take someone with a very keen eye to detect it when double-sleeved.
If you got the Beta one, you should be pretty careful, cause those are a bit more conspicuous.
>>47193430
I dunno Podless CoCo Melira Pod was pretty funny
Do you think collected company will go up in price like snap did? Is it worth to buy the origins clash pack? It's got coco rhino gw fetch and dromokas command. It's currently around 45CAD.
>>47204905
Pic unrelated. Was gonna post coco pic. Oh well
>>47204905
Or just buy CoCos???
>>47205039
I need fetch too that's why
>>47204905
>tfw Collected Company hits Anri Okita
>>47193731
>Karn's Konsumate Kikery
This wasn't supposed to be a YLYL thread
>>47204905
CoCo will likely retain its value somewhat. Dromoka's Command will probably stick around and see some fringe play. Lot of 2 mana utility goodstuff spells are useful in that regard. And fetch is fetch, can't go wrong with it.
>>47203391
Not bad
Eternal masters spoilers when? Would it be stupid to buy into it if I don't play legacy or cube? What are the odds some modern staples are in, like snapcaster, goblin guide, ect?
>>47205196
There's no way she has cmc 3 or less. She has to be at least a 3/4 creature.
>>47204162
>Boros burn is very playable. And there are top 8's to prove it.
In what top 8 has there been a non-Naya burn deck?
>>47206479
Wooly thoctar? Savage knuckleblade?
Any grixis players ITT?
Not sure on the spell snares or the serum.
23 or 24 lands? 2, 3 or 4 Lilis?
I'm testing out Silumgars because it gets no love, it doesn't seem too bad...
>>47208507
19 Lands, 2 jace, 1 lilly,4 goryo's, 4 grizzy, 4 breach, 3 spaghetti monster.
>>47208808
>19 lands
wat
>>47208507
24 for GDD y Kalitas. 2 lilys. 3 jaces and 3 tiagos, with jaces you can dump your ancestral visions and cast them with the dak dwellers
>>47209291
Don't need very much mana for reanimator dawg.
>Playing?
America Control
>Brewing?
Merfolk, just started picking up cards today. Very excited from early playtests
>Next MTG Purchase?
Only the best fish the ocean has to offer
>>47208507
Honstly, I prefer Spell Snare as a sideboard card. Too many matches where it's dead past turn 2.
>>47198552
>>47193407
It's hindered by having completely unwinnable matchups vs Burn, Thalia decks, and Infect while also not being great vs the new Nacatl Zoo decks, all of which are becoming more popular. Outside of that, it's, at worst, a little bad vs stuff like Jund and counterspell heavy control decks. It's been my deck of choice since Eldrazi and it has treated me really well in a pretty diverse, reasonably competitive local modern meta. Granted, I dodge Burn and Infect a lot, but you don't hate playing much else.
>>47209291
I can go for 2 lilis.
You sure about the 3-3 tiago split? I like jace as a 5th snappy, he gets bolted alot, but he is pretty good. Plus he's legendary.. though that probably doesn't matter much. What about 4 snap 2 jace?
>>47210651
Ikr? Like it sometimes works and sometimes it sits in your hand. Very powerful when it does work though. Idk..
>>47203391
I dig it, though you really should be running Lingering Souls at least or Path To Exile.
Here's my list
>>47212134
His is more rampy with all the mana dorks, I like your midrange style though. Souls is pure value in this meta but his deck is trying to rush the combo ala jeskai ass combo.
>>47209291
>>47208507
>>47210651
Gonna go -1 lily +1 terminate
-2 spell snare +1 serum +1 jace
I still believe in the Silumgar.
>>47212223
Personally, you don't have crazy graveyard interaction going on with how few Delve-bros you got, maybe Grim Lavamancer in the maindeck would be very good for you.
>>47212134
Yeah, my list used to look similar to yours but I wanted a bit more focus on blue. I am trying it out without the white. I kinda miss control builds so I tried to put a bit more emphasis on that.
So today was my first modern tournament and while I totally expected to go 0-2 on all my games, I actually did pretty well for a first run with a record of 1/1/2. Was using a half finished hatebears deck and was actually surprised over all how it did alright against things like Esper Control, Burn, and Æthermage's Touch. So far this is what I have:
4 Birds of Paradise
4 Path to Exile
4 Leonin Arbiter
3 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
3 Qasali Pridemage
3 Hushwing Gryff
3 Bygone Bishop
3 Loxodon Smitter
2 Vyrn Wingmare
4 Collected Company
2 Wilt-Leaf Liege
1 Baneslayer Angel
2 Gavony Township
4 Windswept Heath
4 Temple Garden
1 Canopy Vista
4 Ghost Quarter
1 Tectonic Edge
5 Plains
3 Forest
And the sideboard was literally just the extras of the cards that are 3 ofs in the deck plus Kor Firewalker, Dryard Militants, and Judge's Familiars. I know this is super unoptimized(I shouldn't be running fetches in this but they're in there for now while i wait to get more stuff for the deck) but over all I had fun. The only thing right now I'm wondering is how to go about finishing it. Should I focus more on the staples of the format or go for more tech choices.
>>47193424
Just play Merfolk. You get a good, solid deck and when you counter stuff you can pretend you're playing control instead of tempo.
>>47204262
False.
Which deck is better for grinding side events at legacy? Jeskai Nahiri control or Abzan Company? Jeskai seems more powerful, but harder to pilot, which will be a huge factor. Company is a great deck, since it can win games from nowhere but I am afraid it can, and will be easily hated out.
>>47213340
and by legacy I mean GP
>>47213162
>CoCo
>in hatebears
>>47213340
>and will be easily hated out
What? Pridemage takes care of all played yard hate except rip and scooze. You can still shit dudes on board without the combo. No one plays Tron anymore.
>>47213481
yeah but with rip/scooze/wheel of sun and moon you turn out to be a bad midrange deck
but yeah, I guess you're right
>>47213493
>wheel of sun and moon
When was the last time this was played ever? Board in Reclamation Sages which CoCo conveniently enough hits and chord finds, you have 4 paths for scooze.
>>47213506
it's basically one-sided rest in peace. it already started to see slight play
>>47213162
senpai, I know the temptation to put coco in hatebears but it just doesn't work.
On a scale of one to fuck-what-are-you-doing, how badly will a noncombo version of Jeskai Ascendancy work? Things like seeker of the way, monastery mentor, snapcasters, etc.I just miss my THS-KTK fireworks deck ;-;
>>47213760
Build it like a tempo deck with 2 copies of ascendancy for combat blowouts. Throw a couple manlands in so you can chain more cantrips late game. It could work. Might be bad though.
>>47212107
I use my jace as wincon, whe he hit the board in the midgame and they don't have removal, is easy to go for the ultimate. also it can be used more times that snapcaster. and as he is a high priority target, white decks will use their path on them, leaving kalitas/tasigur more safe
>>47215229
>I use my jace as wincon
No
>foil is warped enough to stand out in a double sleeved deck
Kill me now senpai
>>47216117
Bend it flat.
>>47216117
Add weight, compression will make everything better.
>>47195648
>infect
elesh norn kills the deck
>affinity
similar to infect
>burn
what's that, iona naming red
as long as you can resolve a big threat you are doing fine, also timely reinforcements mainboard saves the deck from aggro alot
>>47216395
>>what's that, iona naming red
Which stops Path how?
anyone playing chinese counterfeits in modern FNM's? thinking about buying some and heading over
>>47217048
Some batches pass really well. At FNM nobody gives a shit. Just make sure you don't have a reputation for being a poorfag. That would raise eyebrows.
>>47195078
So what happens when you draw unburial rites? I don't see anyway to cast or discard it
>>47217086
There is a playset of Thirst for Knowledge you run-amok retard.
>>47217293
So there is. I was confusing it for thoughtcast. you double nigger.
Are there any decent foil proxies out there?
>>47217048
Most batches are really good. All the new batches are amazing. The old ones not so much. In the old ones the colors are really off. You can check this by comparing the backs of them. It wikk be very obvious which one is new and old.
Is there a decent online version of MTG that's alive?
I really don't want to play Hearthstone.
>>47217585
I play MTGO & my friend's about to get an account; you tried it?
>>47217452
not that I know of, most of the fake foils have the effect on the textbox and borders which is immediately noticeable
>>47204206
It's actually exactly what tiers describe.
>>47193835
"Fair" refers to how the deck plays, not its power level.
>>47216117
The obvious solution is to foil out your entire deck and let them all warp a bit too.
>>47216117
>be 12
>think foil cards were pure treasure and worth thousands later on
>be 26
>sell that shit asap in exchange for a normal and some extra cash to avoid deteriation
>>47217452
>>47218180
>no circle at the bottom
Nope
>>47218247
worldwake was before the foil stamp ya dingus
>>47218247
Get out
>>47218247
Go to tcgplayer right now and look at both editions of the card. We can wait for you.
Any remotely close alternatives for an eye of ugin? I want to play eldrazi control but since they were banned I'm not sure what to use instead.
>>47218477
A better deck
>>47194564
If Nahiri sticks until next turn, it's almost guaranteed Emrakul is coming down.
If not, she still destroys artifacts, creatures the turn she comes down and let's you filter your hand.
I've also just sided out the whole combo and the shell is just fine without it as well.
>>47218535
So if you leave a 4 mana planeswalker completely undisrupted for 3 turns, you can ult them? Wow the value.
LoTV and Karn ult more reliably, with less investment and more backup.
LoTV and Karn almost never ult, and aren't the primary win cons of their deck.
>>47218074
>be 26
Woah. Old man
>>47218573
The difference is LoTV and Karn can't reliably exist in a control shell.
Sure Nahiri takes 3 turns to ultimate, but that entire time you can leave open counter magic, path of exile, lightning bolts, snapcaster, etc
You don't have to believe me if you don't want to.
I hope you'd believe Jeff Hoogland, though.
http://mtgpulse.com/event/24391#329184
>>47218747
Have you tried using venser to bounce your emerakul to make sure they stick instead of going to hand? Is that even worth it or is that complete overkill.
>>47218747
i've been shilling nahiri since it was released. some people are just bad at card evaluation, you're gonna want to ignore them.
>>47218820
If you attack with Emrakul and you haven't won, something very bad is happening.
>>47218747
>Sure Nahiri takes 3 turns to ultimate
You know what else can win the game over 3 turns in a "control shell?" Literally any Modern playable 4 drop.
You know what gets run the fuck over in Modern? Control shells.
>>47216741
>Path To Exile as a three of
>Path To Exile in the main of Burn
holy shit, the only way they live past Iona is by topdecking amazingly or if they mulled down to get Path, which case you run counterspells.
>>47218884
What modern 4 drops are winning in control shells?
>>47218891
Different guy, but Burn usually has 2 Path post-board and that's it. Ignoring post-board tech is foolish.
Burn is usually fast enough to force a Turn 5 Iona (that's pretty slow, btw), in which case you are either way too low on health to survive the creatures on the board, or the Burn player can Path your Iona while you're either tapped out for casting Unburial Rites or you have exactly one mana available, where your only out is Dispel, which is exactly a one-of. You are also leaving yourself open for tons of firepower if you tap out for Gifts or Unburial Rites.
Sure, you can say you assembled Tron and Signets and whatever, but that means you were open for the entire earlygame, which spells game loss.
>>47218873
I guess im just overly cautious about eldrazi being instant super beat all end all cards.
>>47218959
he's bullshitting you. dudes just being contrarian.
someone's gonna take down a gp with nahiri and we'll force-feed him a big ol' plate ofstormcrow.
>>47218959
If she's ready to ult on turn 7, you've win already anyways. How the fuck do you not see that.
>>47219029
So the anon you're arguing with is retarded. What would a planeswalker combo with doubling season look like though? Or would you be better off just ramping into tooth and nail?
>>47219307
JAoT is better with doubling season though.
whats the best Elves list?
>>47219624
The legacy one. Really the only good elves list.
Hey guys looking to sell a few of my cards on ebay before the price goes down anymore.
How much should I ask for four flip Jaces and one Flip Liliana? (Sold together to make things easier for me), keeping in mind that I will make the shipping free too.
Is he based?
I have 7 Nahiris. One foil. Sell now or hold onto them?
>>47220055
Why would he be, he's just a random chink on YouTube.
>>47220120
Sell them all, buy them when they fall. Its all artificial growth.
>>47213424
But you don't search you fuck.
>>47220055
For someone who hates fake cards so much, he sure gives counterfeiters a lot of tips to improve
>>47220171
This, they will drop guaranteed
>>47220055
Yeah, I love him almost as much as I love Forsyth.
>>47220196
plot twisthe is the counterfeiter
>>47220016
Whatever TCG low
Will wotc ever condone enchantress of any form in modern?
>>47220427
Where are your Ghostly Prisons?
>>47220427
Eidolon of Countless Battles seems bad
>>47220492
I made that stack up on the spot, clearly missing cards like that. Is there a real deck for enchantress that I don't know about?
I was playing with my buddy's friend today, and he played Goldnight Castigator and fucked me up for a while. Then I slapped him for 12*2=24 damage and he casted deflecting palm, which he said killed me (from 19 life).
That's bullshit, isn't it? Doesn't the damage only get doubled for Goldnight's controller?
>>47220513
It's a shitty ancestral mask but it adds like +7/7 by the time I cast
>>47220516
I've seen people post a similar deck in previous threads.
4 Utopia Sprawl
4 Ghostly Prison
4 Fertile Ground
3 Overgrowth
3 Oblivion Ring
2 Journey to Nowhere
2 Sphere of Safety
2 Sigil of the Empty Throne
1 Starfield of Nyx
4 Arbor Elf
4 Eidolon of Blossoms
2 Courser of Kruphix
1 Herald of the Pantheon
4 Kruphix's Insight
>>47220552
Pic related for reference
>>47220427
Nope cause creatures with hexproof are bad for the game, and enchantress promotes lines of play where you don't turn those creatures sideway (also no solitarie confinement)
>>47220562
>Sphere of Safety
now that seems like an interesting alternative to solitary confinement
thanks quite a bit
>>47220599I unironically believe that everything you said is correct, but that's also because I've never once been able to play a modern game where I've been able to turn creatures sideways.
>>47220567
It's two damage modifying effects. The controller can choose what order to apply them. It works exactly like your buddy says.
>>47220628
It's very mana intensive but no problem
Is selling a promo Snappy for 4 normal snapcasters a good idea?
>>47220567
it says "if a source would deal damage to you". Deflecting Palm says prevent that damage... deals that much damage to that source's controler." so I would think that because it didn't deal damage to you in the first place, its not doubled
>>47220567
http://blogs.magicjudges.org/rulestips/2014/11/deflecting-palm-dictate-of-the-twin-gods/
Im currently building a b/w humans deck, but i need more cards to work with. At the moment im using those:
champion of the parish
bloodsoaked champion
proclamation of rebirth
doomed traveler
xathrid necromancer (maybe)
can someone give advice?
>>47220995
Go GB or GW instead
>>47220599
WotC likes Hexproof though. They don't like Shroud, because apparently some people don't understand that it effects their own spells as well.
>>47221735
But shroud is fair
This has actually been working really well.
