The Hype continues.
Previous thread >>47120777
>Where can I find the rules?
http://www.forum.specialist-arms.com/index.php?topic=5203.0
>What the FUCK? What rules books do I actually need?
http://pastebin.com/6AGsum1s (embed)
(Short version: 2007 edition of the rulebook, 2010 Update, and Armada)
Revised is a set of fan-rules, written almost entirely by a Dark Eldar player. It shows.
>Where can I find physical miniatures to use/proxy with?
http://pastebin.com/jC96JeMV (embed) (But we always need more - Feel free to chip in with others you've found in-thread)
Also looking for more non-GW minis suitable for running boarding party games.
>Paper ship Proxies:
https://www.sendspace.com/file/h6zp53
http://imgur.com/a/MhFcj
>Boarding action rules
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/fw_site/fw_pdfs/Warhammer_40000/Zone_Mortalis_Expansion.pdf
See the physical models link for some appropriate options for Navy troops
>Tactics and strategy resources for tabletop
Marine Tactica underway.
AdMech tactica: http://pastebin.com/YSrAf9f7 (embed)
>BFG:Armada is now live
>Battleflee/tg/othic Steam Group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/bfgtg
>Anon is hosting a campaign, for more info go here:
http://tg-gothiccampaign.freeforums.net/
NEMESIS FLEET CARRIER WHEN
>>47161970
Fucking never hopefully.
>>47162053
Eh, if it's anything like in the tabletop it only approaches the level of strike craft a chaos BB can throw out and outside of dorsal lances has 0 firepower. You would have to escort the dam thing as it wouldn't be able to defend itself while strike craft was on cool down.
>tfw it's even more pointless than an emperor.
>>47162091
I enjoy it on the TT but I have to treat it like a carrier: I have to support and defend it as Str 3 lances may kill an escort a turn of I'm lucky. 12 launch bays is really cool but at 400 pnts it's dangerously vulnerable to giving your opponent a lot of victory points.
It pretty much fills out my fleet for ordnance in really large battles as I only have a Mars otherwise. My local chaos player is usually 20 launch bays of not more.
>>47161634
Fifth for merciless, Lunar-class spitroasting.
So do you think improved ramming prows are mandatory for Imp. Ships?
>>47162142
>20+ bays
Ouch. Please tell me you at least play 2010 update so they don't just spawn hundreds of bombers.
What do you run against that?
>>47162215
with subpar macro dmg output, pretty much yeah
>>47162216
Yeah we use the errata.
I use my nemesis for fighter screens and use my Mars for bomber strikes on weakened targets.
Keep the field filled with torps to force him to use some fighters.
Turret massing my escorts and I run two Bakka Endeavors as reserves with the +5 pnt turret upgrade. It gives them 4 turrets a piece and I put them on large stands which gives them a much larger ordnance engagement range. I use them on point as flak boats. It's pretty fun.
>>47162356
Bakka turret upgrades is probably the best idea. I was thinking if you used a few nova cannons to template blast them, but it would probably be too janky with the scatter dice.
>>47162441
I've got one nova with the Mars. Sometimes it helps but it isn't reliable.
The large bases on the Bakka Endeavour help a lot as he has to either go around them or try to overpower 4-5 turrets.
Destroying that huge ork space hulk was fun. Just sayed as far as i could and spammed torpedo till he burned down.
The Apocalypse Battleship still doesn't show up for me as an option in the Campaign, can someone tell me what its load out is
Speaking of the Nemesis, I wonder if they'll eventually add in all the odds and ends. Voss-pattern Imperials, the extra Chaos ships from the updated rules, maybe rogue Traders as a faction
>All demand xenos ships
>Weaker ships on average but Hella relics/skills
Expansions with random xenos. Rak'gul, Farlarrl or whatever they are with the battlecruisers, Tau allies. Eldar craftworld fleets.
>Single player or skirmish mode where you attack a Craftworld.
>>47162706
It's not in the game.
>>47162720
Also,
>Grand Fucking Cruisers
>>47162729
I NEED my Avenger.
Because fuck every Eldar within 20,000 kilo.
>>47162720
>maybe rogue Traders as a faction
This was one of the options in the faction poll. Guess how far they continue depends on how well sales go with the other DLC fleets.
>>47162215
only on your brawlers. something like a gothic or overloard that wants too sit further out I wouldn't bother.
>>47162720
I never played the tabletop but according to the wiki the devs have still got shit loads of options when it comes to new ships.
First and foremost though we need more ship slots. Make ship repairs take even longer if they want to balance it out but 3 cruiser slots just isn't enough.
>>47163746
>add progression system
>progression totally halts when you fill out all your ship slots
Genius
>>47162215
Fuck yes. Ram Prow and when you start a match set your ships to fore facing rather then broadside and 3k units.
This keeps your strongest armor facing the targets and the narrowest part, making it harder to torp you. It also means your AI won't go retarded and turn sideways to orcs to let them run into your big juicy sides.
Auto ram by mashing ahead full when you see a shot and autocast torps if you are shit at micro. Even if they sidestep your ramming they go into your broadside at point blank range when it's likely off cooldown. AP shells can do a hell of a lot of damage under those conditions.
Please please please, if you face a player who sits in the corner spamming torps/nova cannons just alt-f4, don't give them the fucking satisfaction. FUCK them so hard
>>47161970
>>47162091
Why is the Nemesis Fleet Carrier okay, but the Jovian cruiser not?
>>47164756
What? Long range torp attacks are just harassment as you close in. You should do it too. At best they get 3 vollies before you close in and that last one means having your torps on cooldown when the battle joins properly.
>Spamming nova cannons.
They get 2 shots before you can close the gap, even as IN. You can't seriously complain that a nova cannon gunline won't close on you.
If I had to guess I'd say you clump your fleet hard and are mad that across the map meltas lit half of it on fire before you'd identified any targets.
>>47164756
Or, you know, I could just beat them like I normally do because I'm not a shitty player and a quitter.
Nova Cannons aren't even a very effective strategy.
>>47164909
Given they mean giving up ram upgrades on the two races that are dependent on ram upgrades, yeah, nova cannons are garbage.
>>47164884
>>47164909
I scouted them with a widowmaker, I had an escort screen and I didn't clump together. They can concentrate a lot more fire on one target than you can, you can't get round the sides, and it's just boring.
3 volleys isn't going to do much to a cruiser, but it's more than enough to do your escorts some serious damage
It's 150M41, Ravensburg is talking about massing the fleet and taking the fight to the enemy. Is this the final mission?
>>47164909
>internet tough guy
I bet you're one of those players who beats eldar every time right?
>>47164960
Nobody beats anything every time. But you don't win by not even trying.
Also I think the last time I lost to eldar they were doing carrier shenanigans.
>>47165032
fair enough my nigga
>>47164950
The final mission has you up against Abaddon, and that's in 151.M41. I think you're about to get into the battle of Gethsemane, in which Ravensburg's flagship was a known participant.
>>47165095
Forgot my pic, this is Ravensburg's flagship in the original fluff.
>>47165095
Alright, so I've probably got a few more turns to go. Things have been pretty quiet since the xenos went away. I've even had time to kick a few seditionaries in the teeth. Fuck knows how they got their hands on an Emperor class battleship.
I've played this game to death already and I'm still hungry for more.
These devs have struck gold.
Do we know what's coming after SM? Sequel/expansion when?
>>47165155
Tau a few months afterwards, and Tyranids somewhere down the line.
>>47165155
Tau fleet is the next big thing coming. They posted a roadmap for future features.
http://forum.battlefleetgothic-armada.com/viewtopic.php?t=2967
>>47165174
>http://forum.battlefleetgothic-armada.com/viewtopic.php?t=2967
Pink Imperial Navy with dick names coming soon!
Post pics of your fleets anons!Reminder for steam users, press F10 to take away the UI and then press F12 to take a picture
>>47165299
Very well.
>>47165318
>>47165379
>>47165388
>>47165386
Is there any kind of penalty for executing an insubordinate captain I'm not noticing?
Wondering why I'd want to invest crew points or a favour slot to stop something I can just click the button above the ship to stop instead
>>47165605
Executing a captain gives you the Mutiny debuff, which lowers ship performance across the board, and there's a chance of automatically suffering critical damage to one system.
>>47165613
It's wonderful when executing an insubordinate captain just blows your fucking deck out.
Like what happened there, was the only way to execute him to plant demolition charges and blow up the entire fucking superstructure?
>>47165613
Also your ships wont gain any XP from that mission.
>>47165644
Maybe a good deal of the crew were with him on getting the fuck outta' there, and the fight to subdue them caused some damage
>>47165613
Plus the new Captain of that ship gets no experience points that match.
I've found, playing Chaos at least, that it's almost a good thing to be lenient with my captains. If they're warping out there's been a reason, at least with the last couple games. Better to save the ship and the leveled Captain then risk having a broken boat surrounded by enemies.
>>47165644
No Ivan, he was of wearing the "reactive armor".
>>47165498
Even with their fancy prow pulsars, I don't think I'll ever stop loving torpedoes and nova cannons.
>>47161634
>the vidya doesn't have a ship painter
Why do I feel so wholly disappointed?
Tips on Dauntless?
I am playing the campaign now and they seem pretty solid, even if the damage output is somewhat low
>>47165299
>>47165702
Yet. Its coming, just it's not the dev's main priority.
>>47165684
Usually. I've had some wonderful missions in the campaign where blowing up one ship causes a insubordination cascade. Was defending in planetary assault ones, all three of the enemy's remaining line ships bottled within a 30 second period and well before they hit 30% health.
>>47165722
It's coming according to the dev's roadmap, but yeah, that not being in at launch is an oversight.
>>47165735
I've ended up using them as scout ships. Boosted augurs, probes, etc. I've kitted one of them out for boarding/data retrieval though. Tougher shields, astartes favour, more teleporters, etc.
>>47165702
I actually don't play my eldar very much because orks are about 2000% more fun and the outrage people express when their entire fleet gets rammed and kannoned to death in seconds is fucking outstanding.
>>47165752
Orks are lovely, assuming you get them in close and ramming. Had one too many games where I've been outmanoeuvred and gunned down at range though, so it's IN for me. They've got some response to that, at least.
>>47165752
Traktor thingy is just so much fun, stop playing Impirial Underpower Navy for Orks.
>>47165644
>was the only way to execute him to plant demolition charges and blow up the entire fucking superstructure?
This is 40k nigga, there could be open rebellions on decks of the flagship that the armsmen just lock behind a few bulkheads. I mean hey, the feel tribesmen locked in cargo hold #4 have been getting along okay these last few centuries right?
Wish the map was a bit smaller so it would require some actual skill to kite around
>>47166227
I think the size is fine, it's the general emptiness that's an issue. Particularly in cruiser clash where there's no victory points or anything.
>>47165815
Because the best way to reload gargantuan ordnance is to have hundreds of slaves with ropes pulling the barrel back and forth.
>>47166399
I like how this isn't some in the field patch job, but the STANDARD TEMPLATE CONSTRUCT itself has a work gang swinging the thing back and forth.
>>47166417
Considering how few people are depicted and how large the weapon is they almost certainly aren't actually doing much, if any of the work.
also it's fanart so don't take the STC part too seriously. Here is some official art of loading a torpedo. I like how the tube has no apparent breach door.
>>47166460
The breach door is offscreen to the right. Serfs better scurry once they're done, unless they want to get ejected along with the payload.
Anyone else not getting any matches after 30 minutes waiting?
>>47165130
>not posting the superior version
>>47166399
Question.
Would this be effectively a"Average day at a fortress world the anime"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifWwj_Jp86A
>>47166639
Close enough. They'd be firing more than once a day if there's an actual enemy within range though.
>>47166460
I think that was back when 40k was even more grimdark than it is now. I don't think it's canon now that guns a kilometre long are manually loaded by slaves
>>47166417
It's not part of the STC design. The gun is from an stc, but the IoM has long since lost the loading mechanism template and the scratch built ones are far too unreliable. So they use press gangs.
It's a half-measure as they do not have complete STC support for gundecks.
>>47167096
Oh no, that is still the canon save for a few ships with loading mechanisms and those are almost all part of AdMech fleets.
>>47166639
I like more futuristic approach.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXnJr2fn-Uw
>>47167166
Yet the Mechanicus has the required info to make loaders.
They just don't want to share that knowledge with those not enlightened by the Omnissiah.
Can I win as orks by using one light cruiser and everything else in escorts?
>>47167247
I still prefer the animu version of Yamato.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSrYskeie-s
>>47167323
Yes, Ork Escorts are remarkably difficult to kill for some reason.
>>47167255
Or, they have the knowledge, but only on one Forge World, meaning any vessels produced on this world have the tech, but the Arch-Magos of the planet does not get on well with the leaders of other Forge Worlds, leading to the tech not being shared, or used if it is provided.
>>47167365
They have 75 front armor 200 hull and 100 shield.
It'll take an imperial cruiser well over a minute of sustained fire at point blank range to actually kill one.
>>47164756
But IN is bad anon said IN is bad
>>47167359
Me too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvl6uVweAhE
>>47167669
you best not be doubtin' me
Retribution or Emperor Class for the campaign?
>>47167656
Or a few minutes of concentrated fire from few firelancers.
>>47167429
Naw mate, the mechanicus tends to keep the tastiest bits of tech all for themselves.
>>47168452
Retribution, the Emperor is too slow.
>>47168452
Depends, do you want to see a slow as hell ship with fighters or do you want to be a awesome battleship with a ramming spur, 8 torpedo tubes, 3 plasma macros per side and 3 turreted beam cannons?
>Play campaign
>first convoy mission against chaos
>Start the gae, see the blips of the enemy ships approaching
>Use the MK2 Dauntless to launch a probe, then shoot almost blindly a torpedo salvo in the general direction of the closer blip
>The torpedoes hit the blip, whatever it was
>It explodes, never to be revealed, well before the actual fight starts
The curiosity is still killing me
>>47168543
It was probably abby himself in a space suit.
>>47168543
Probably an escort.
>>47168609
are chaos escorts really that fragile? two torpedoes and GG WP?
>>47168505
Seconding this, the ship just isn't viable on 2/3rds of the missions because of the 112 speed.
>>47168505
>>47168538
I guess I'll go for the retribution, I heard it was pretty mediocre during beta though.
>>47168638
I think imperial escorts blow up from similar damage.
>>47168735
>I heard it was pretty mediocre during beta though.
Plasma macros got buffed.
>>47168543
I also love when the cheatorks have twice as much ships as me.
>>47168804
Yeah, they are not the emperor's heavy version I noticed.
https://youtu.be/INPgubrPpZg?t=22m54s
That little speech man. True hero of the Imperium
>>47168814
yeah but they're all escorts.
Too bad they're tough as light cruisers
>>47161970
APOCALYPSE BATTLESHIP WHEN
> All these assassination missions against eldar
Fuck this game.
>>47170319
> Let's give one side the toughest ships
> And lots of torpedoes
> And ridiculously strong guns
> And the ability to move enemy ships around
> And let's make their ships the cheapest
>>47166541
>Die Göttliche Führung
I love german
I was just losing badly to another Imp player until I triple rammed 3 of his ships with my retribution, crushing them all together. It was a complete fluke but it won me the match single-handedly.
Just when I start to get a little tired of the IN things like that happen
>>47162215
I don't currently, but considering how often I ram enemies I probably should.
Tfw the Brace For Impact order has such a long cooldown.
I even rammed two ships to death the other day, a Chaos cruiser and my own because I sandwiched the Chaos ship in between the two. It was glorious.
>>47167720
>Yamato singelhandedly annihilating pluto base destroying multiple capital ships
Absolutely brutal
>>47167255
The Mechanicus are also huge dicks when it comes to sharing their technology. Knowledge is power and all that shit.
>>47171357
>Tfw the Brace For Impact order has such a long cooldown.
ADVANCED COGITATOR LINKAGES
>>47161634
Am I a scrub for almost exclusively playing the game in campaign and skirmish thus far?
So does anyone think the next campaign DLC will be the Damocles Crusade followed by the First Tyrannoc War?
>Based Spire single-handedly destroying the Tau before being called in the defense of Macragge, forcing him to negotiate a truce against his will
>>47171668
The Imperium are the "bad guys"/Invaders in the Damocles Crusade.
It would make sense if we play a Tau Kor'vre trying to protect his empire from an alien invasion.
>>47171719
>The Imperium are the "bad guys"/Invaders
>Disregarding the Tau invaded and occupied Imperial worlds to begin with
Absolutely heretical
>>47171746
>>47171719
it's 40k, everyone is either a badguy or an asshole or both.
>>47171668
Implying you won't be playing as Shadowsun herself. Who should voice her and Farsight by the say?
>>47171746
But they didn't. In fact, this line of action was suggested and dismissed by the Ethereals. The planets just started trading like crazy with the Tau and then came the Imperial retribution.
>>47171775
Tara Strong maybe?
>>47171775
I'd prefer that you'd play as someone "made up", like Spire. That means the developers can do whatever they want with the character without risking doing something that goes against an established character's lore.
>>47171719
>>47171775
Playing the Imperium/Spire would allow the player to fight both Tau and Tyranid because as far as I know (don't know much about Tau lore) the Tau only get to fight Tyranid until much later so a Tau campaign you would be fighting IN and nothing else.
>>47171839
Yeah, Fire Caste gets too much attention. Air Caste deserves some love.
>>47171855
What about Orks, Necrons, and the Dark Eldar?
>>47171875
Forgot about Ork but Necron and DEldar are not even planned yet as DLC.
And I don't remember Tau ever fighting a Necron fleet in the lore.
What if the Damocles Crusade is not defensive campaign, but offensive and takes place during the second one (perhaps under Shadowsun's command)?
It would make more sense given that the Tau Fleet is going to be made of the Second Generation Warships.
>>47171981
I think the best way they could do it (for them, re: reusing as much assets and design principles as possible) would be as an isolated sept of Tau worlds (maybe Farsight's fortress worlds) weather a flange of the Damocles Gulf Crusade, or a splinter of a hive fleet or something along those lines.
Plus I'm a sucker for Farsight.
>>47171981
I think Great War of Confederation is more likely. Shadowsun during her earlier days as commander of the Tau forces. You also get Tyranids and the option to ally yourself with Imperial Forces lost in the Warp.
>>47172056
Also Dark Eldar "allies" and cultural exchange.
>>47172056
Also chaos, as the Tau claimed to have killed Slaneesh
>>47171775
>Shadowsun
>Leading the fleet
At best she is going be a secondary character like the Imperial fist guy.
>>47171855
>the Tau only get to fight Tyranid until much later
Actually, the Tau fought the Tau the same time the Imperials did.
The Tau fought small splinters of Behemoth while Ultramar had the bulk of the hive fleet smash into it.
>>47172056
>think Great War of Confederation is more likely. Shadowsun during her earlier days as commander of the Tau forces
I facespalmed so far I nearly broke my nose. Shadowsun was a major commander of the Tau during the Damocles Crusade. After the Crusade was dealt with, she was put on ice for 200 years. Then she was awoken to deal with the Orks in Great War of Confederation.
Then she was elected as supreme commander of the Tau forces and assgined the mission of leading the Third Sphere Expansion.
>>47172268
Wasn't she a student of Puretide, got frozen and she wasn't reawaken until Farsight's defection?
>>47172056
Wasn't during this war when she earned her Shaserra (Shaserra) name? I wonder how she was named beforehand.
>>47172442
Shaserra = Shadowsun.
>>47172442
Shas-Kauyon. That was her name.
Shas-Mon'tka was Farsight.
Shas-Monat was Kais.
These were the names that their master gave them during their training.It was implied that there was a Tyrande, Illidan, and Malfurion situation between the three that led to a breakdown of their relationship
>>47172506
Slight correction.
Kauyon-Shas = Shadowsun's student name.
Mont’ka-Shoh = Farsight's student name
Monat-Kais = Kaids's student name.
>>47172506
>>47172623
That the same Kais from the Fire Warrior game, or am I thinking of someone else?
>>47173069
No different Kais. He is not the Kais from the Fire Warrior game.
However, he is most likely the Kais from Dawn of War Dark Crusade because that guy mentions that he wants to make Puretide proud.
>beat a guy fair and square, no dirty tricks or camping in a corner
>has 2 escorts left while I have 3 cruisers and a dauntless
>proceeds to run around the edge of the map waiting for the time to run out
>tries to make me mad on chat but I'm not biting
>tell him to just give it up and he says "sorry for having fun while playing GAMES"
>blow them up with 4 minutes to spare
Thank fuck for Mezoa Pattern drives. There should be a countdown when one player only has escorts left, I can't bear to imagine how frustrating this would be against some faggy Eldar player
>>47173277
>get called a "nova spammer" when I have one in my fleet
People in this game are so salty.
How do you counter ork boarding toroedo spam? Split my fleet up? It wrecks my IN fleet before I even get close.
>>47165644
The Commisars laspistol was feeling very into the whole "KILL THE TRAITOR" thing that time, and decided to expnuge every ounce of energy it had
>>47169713
I was kinda bummed that this guy wasn't even mentioned before this.
>>47173350
fighter and escort screens would work.
>>47173447
Ah, I guess that means figuring out beforehand if the guys gonna spam or not.
>>47173105
Ah, all right. Still wonder what happened to that guy. Dude must be seven shades of batshit after what he went though.
>>47173308
>playing against eldar as IN
>manage to get a bit of damage on him
>we both lose ships
>have a dominator and a heavily damaged dauntless against his damaged shadow class
>he dashes between my ships and hits both with that scanner disruptor thingy
>can only see a blip
>"So close, yet so far"
>goes into silent running
>fire a nova cannon blindly at where i expect him to be
>must have hit him right in the center
>see an explosion and then the victorious screen
>type "So far, yet so dead"
i have never felt better playing a videogame in my life
>Finally grind my way to getting my battleship
>Don't have enough renown to skill it out, or finish upgrading my to battlecruisers
>Doesn't matter, finally have the Battleship
>Go into game
>Eldar
>Can afford Battleship and Battlecruisers
>Right just stay in formation, target engines and we should
>PULSAR PULSAR PULSAR PULSAR
>"THE FLAGSHIP HAS BEEN DESTROYED"
>shitting WHAT
>*Fwoooooom*
>Oh fuck get into range and open fire godda
>PULSAR PULSAR PULSAR PULSAR
>Another Battlecruiser dead, shields and hull like nothing
>All down to newbie, he can surely weather the lances
>PULSAR PULSAR PULSAR PULSAR
>Barely clinging on, less than a quarter of healt-
>Realise they're all Biel Tan ships
>I AM KHAELA MENSHA KHAELA KHAINE MENSHA I MENSHA KHAELA MENSHA KHAINE
>Defeat
Fucking Eldar
Fucking Pulsar Lances
>>47173277
>camping in a corner
I keep seeing imperial players do this and the only outcome is that I just slowly waddle up to them and eventually have my way with them in their chosen rape-corner.
does that strategy actually work sometimes, and if so against who?
>>47173861
i've been doing it with orks, grot launchers on every available slot, lobbing boarding torpedoes and assault boats
i also take the pilot upgrade to stay in asteroid fields and use them like nebulas
it's been pretty successful so far
>>47173703
That's why you keep your ships screened against Eldar. I've seen them waste pulsars on Swords because they have it on auto-cast.
>>47173703
Get rekt mon-keigh
I never played the tabletop game.
Is the video game worth getting?
I also never played Mordheim and bought the game, and I like it.
>>47173930
didn't play tabletop either but the game is a lot of funwhen there's no eldar or bugs
>>47171775
Jeremy Irons
>>47173944
>bugs
Tyrants aren't in yet
When eldrathain charges headlong at Abbaddon and gets hit point blank with the planet killer
>>47170903
Git gud, they can't maneuver for shit and have 25 rear armor.
>>47173703
>using your slowest ships against the fastest army
>grouping up instead of splitting up and limiting their field of movement and disengagement possibilities
You deserve the loss
>>47168638
Iconoclasts only have 100 hull. Two successful torpedo hits would inflict 90 damage. If one of them rolled a fire or hull breach it would do it.
>>47173883
I guess I can see it working against particularly dumb imps, especially given boarding torpedoes.
But a lot of the time I'll find an imperial player who doesn't even have mass nova cannons sitting completely stationary balled up in a corner shooting torps while I just shoot a shitload of my own boarding torpedoes at him, then when I get close all his ships are stripped down, barely functional hulks and everything explodes.
And this is really common.
what the fuck are they thinking?
>>47176083
Worked against abaddon. Maybe a lot of people or in at least are just playing the ships and tactics that are most familiar to them. Took me a while to get used to orks not having hi speed turns
>>47175517
Is it worth it to save brace for impact or does another special order work better in general against orcs?
>>47177058
Ork ships can't use combustion to turn. This as well as the red button using ALL the gauge means they are really unmanueverable. If you're getting rammed, you've done something wrong.
Can someone post the screenshots of that anon's well-written guides for Imperial players fighting things?
I am in need of guidance
>>47177266
Or they trakkor beam you into position.
With IN you must be always facing forward, hope for a good ram and let your broadside do some little damage when moving between their fleet.
All your upgrades are reduce to AP, +100 shields, +100 hit points and belt armour to be mediocre at best.
Chaos is just auto kite easy mode.
>>47177266
But if i dont close in how will board their ships?
Your understanding of void combat strategy is basic at best
>>47177497
>>47177538
>basic
I believe "crude" is the word you were looking for primitive.
>>47177497
>>47178105
>>47172177
Pretty much this.
Fire warriors have fuck all command when it comes to fleets.
It would be air caste with maybe fire caste favors.
Will the Tau fleet's crews look like this?
Commissar = Ethereal/Master Computer
Navigator = Air Caste/Master Computer
Mech = Earth Caste
Gunner = Air Caste
Troops = Firewarriors
Servitors = Drones
Pilots = Air Caste
Perhaps with the Firewarriors/Ethereal as an upgride like the Ork's squigs.
>>47178520
tau probably won't have a navigator analogue. them getting lost in the warp doesn't seem like a thing with their kind of drives
>>47178630
>they cant warp out or have a longer waittime
>>47178520
I would like them to have a Water Caste Intelligence Officer or something.
>>47178684
Fuck off Bagdouche
>>47178666
they can warp, but only for small distances.
>>47178666
Can't they warp out with higher precision despite the shorter range?
>>47178852
sort of. doing short jumps is why they're precis, but they're not any more precise than human ships doing short jumps. The Tau are just limited too only doing short jumps. Without navigators or a good understanding of the warp they can't do at all the long range like say across half the segmentum that have the high risks associated with warp travel.
I feel like the Emperor Class needs a speed buff as it is.
I want to use it as a support ship for detection and bays, but it just can't keep up with my main fleet.
>>47178630
What about warping out faster? A more powerful AI doing the calculations or something. Also you can alwats enyer the wrong coordinates.
>>47165299
>>47178684Fun fact, Bagdashus voice actor voiced Kenshiro in hokuto no ken.
>>47180361
Anon, remember.
You cannot make slow go faster, but you can make fast go slower.
- Old tank commanders musings from world of tanks
>>47180582
>Mezoa drives
Eat my spacedust, gramps.
Im on IG versus Orks to steal their data, done it with my small fast ship and started to run away from slow orks. Start warping out, orks are far nad i have full shield just recharged. Suddenly ork ship used his burst, but wherever hes too far away to board and shield will hold.
>Warp jump canceled, we have too much fire power on us!
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATH!?
This is litterer never happened with enemy, what this bullshit!? Is game just tries to fuck me up? They didn't even got through shields!
>>47180661
Weird, had you executed the captain earlier in the match? Mutinies can do strange stuff like that.
>>47181389
No this ship was fine, maybe other one.
I found that weird too, because i focused enemy warping ship with my 4~5 and that never stopped them.
>>47175414
It has to be scripted. I swear in my game, he was not even close to it nor it was forced by enemy action and the dumb motherfucker came full speed and parked his ship in the red death line when the PK was about to shot.
>>47181602
MASTERFUL VOID COMBAT STRATEGY
>>47180661
Speaking of warping, has anyone else noticed that the speed at which you warp out seems to vary greatly.
Like, sometimes you warp out in matter of seconds, then at other times you will be lucky to warp out within a minute.
>>47181708
Have you checked if your generator is FUBAR?
>>47181708
ACTIVATE TACTICAL COGITATOR!
So, that's done and dusted.
What difference do the difficulty levels make?
>>47181842
By what i heard on a thread week or two ago, it increases the amount of enemy ships you face.
>>47181872
So no stat tampering/cheating, just more dire odds? Excellent.
>>47181842
How much turn company? Im on 32 and i already took everything under control even before cavalry to arrive but i still keep doing same thing.
>>47181893
You should be pretty much done. Can't remember what exact turn I got the final mission one, but it was low 30s and the year was 151M41.
My advice for the end isignore everything, rush planet killer.
>>47175414
"I've honored my ancestors"
>>47175414
>>47181602
>>47181928
He did this for me too. Had all the time in the world to use that famous Eldar agility to move aside but nope, prow first into oblivion.
>>47181921
>rush planet killer
That my regular strategy, ramming everything in path of emperor!
>>47181921
I second this esteemed admirals idea.
>>47181954
Quite.
>>47181972
btw, has anyone else ever managed to destroy planet killers instakill laser cannon?I did it once when fighting against it for the first time.
>>47182069
Wasn't even aware that was an option.
Also, am I mistaken, or does the PK have nothing but lances for weapons (aside from the Armageddon Gun)? Which, unless I'm mistaken, means that until its target's shields are down it's not that fearsome.
>>47182069
It's cool but pointless.
When are the Orks going to get fixed in solo? They deploy twice as much ships as me and their cruiser are as powerful as a fucking IN BB.
>>47173703
I'm seconding this. How do I git gud against the elves??
>>47182560
You bring lube, trying to relax and have fun.
>>47182560
Don't have any pro strats, but the #1 thing that kills Eldar is making them go slow. Wreck their engines, block their ships, ram them wherever possible. They won't hold up long under sustained fire. Remember to set target priorities so your ships are focusing on bringing one target down at a time. Bring lots of macro cannons. Nova cannons are wonderfully effective, and even Eldar speed might not save them from it. Consider investing in Supercharged Void Shields and popping them as soon as you see the first flicker of pulsar fire.
Do chaos players have fun? The most boring matches are against chaos.
>>47182802
Chaos players in tabletop and every single game are always edgy teenagers or people with seriously shit taste. Like the entire point of chaos is "cool edgy black armor" and the voice acting is unbearable.
So either the chaos player is someone who plays them because he feels they are the best for winning and they only use the most meta strats. Or they're kiddies who cant even play and the match is a stomp
Are there any comprehensive guides to the different ships and how you can build/use them?
>>47183086
There not even comprehensive, good tutorial. It's like this game made for people who play tabletop version. I wish someone made video with pro tips.
>>47182560
i have an ork fleet with all kustom points in grot ship launchers and have little trouble with eldar as the mass of bombers just wrecks them. All my ships have taunt and MWJ so that helps a bunch as well
its a great feeling when an eldar ship does a 180 and boosts into a battlecruiser you just MWJ into its path
>>47183416
Could you go into detail on how that works? I tried doing an all-grots-all-the-time build, but it never really got anywhere. The light cruisers were just too weak.
>>47183416
Just started orks, when or where do I see the kostum points.
>>47182560
Escorts.
Thousands of them.
This is the perfect recipe to make an Eldar player cry.
Just remember to move them in groups of 3 and try to surround them/ spread your forces a bit so they have limited directions to boost away.
>>47183615
When you pick a ship and you gotta select what weapons it has.
>>47183635
With Imperial Navy get swords, set them to 3k. broadside facing so they are always moving and do not stop dead on. Auto repair and auto lock on.
>>47177497
How do those torpedo tubes work?
>>47183808
Heretics never expect a torpedo strike while lurking just outside your broadside firing arc.
>>47183808
They shoot to the side, surprising the enemy who thinks he is out of the torpedoes way by being at your broadside.
>>47183662
For fuck sake. I'm going for a Speed Freak theme Bad zuns aproach mostly because I love the trakktor beam.
Suggestion for Ork ships?
>>47184008
Heavy Kannon prow gun on light cruisers, torpedo on the front of cruisers and battlecruisers with prow torpedoes, battleship is just kannons and kannons.
keep you shit cheap.
>>47184029
Similarly, which dauntless are better?
>>47183565
I run it for fun, prob lose more than i win but im kinda bad anyway. once you get cruisers it becomes better as they have more launch bays, and you can catch people off guard as the long range helps counter the slow speed. Also constant boarding torps can be used to direct people, while the fighters means enemy torps and bombers can be ignored. Just focus on one target at a time, send out mass waves of bombers and close in to ram.
A half decent player will realise you have no guns on anything smaller than a battlecruiser and use that to their advantage (AP macros can hurt), and i have no squigs so at least one ship warps out every game. Also note that the points cost for each ship is high.
Other orks often mess me up, eldar and chaos i normally win against and IN depends on the player.
tl;dr play it for fun, spam bombers and ram often
>>47184147
Both are OK.
>>47184147
Personally I like Mk2 with Marine favour, and extra lighting strike upgrade.
The usual Imperial Navy Upgrades apply, AP, +100 shield, +100 armour.
>>47184172
If you want to win almost all the time just play, no skill chaos.
>>47184178
>>47184180
Thanks.
>>47184205
i dont really care about winning, i just like a good fight. I find most chaos players cant handle carrier spam, so they close in and get hit with torpedo and BRB rams. Even with an iIN fleet i find chaos the easiest to beat
>>47184288
Chaos is just annoying to fight. Kite game is just boring. With Imperial you can't just spread out to much since your ship just melt.
>>47182802
I have fun. My ships are just only a bit more resilient than the ones of the Eldar and demand care. I enjoy tricking people with my fleet deployments.
>its a destroy transports episode versus Eldar
Someone finally found how to get the Old but Gold achievement: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198019812801/commentnotifications/
>>47185217
>http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198019812801/commentnotifications/
Any idea how he did it?
>>47185318
Can't read the spoiler?
Here is a pasta:
"It first begins at Turn 19, you have a scripted battle with a Black Stone Fortress and your "estimed" (should be esteemed) officer Vandez and his equipped dauntless light cruiser will be there. Your objective here is simple. The blackstone fortress must win, but Vandez should stay alive. Yes, you have to FAIL the mission to get the achivement.(If you win, Vandez says he will go warn other sector and gets killes) It gets worse later >.<
Next step on the on the goal is the battle of Gethsemane , where Ravensbrug, our "estimed" officer Vandez and the Abridal are joining you for some fresh chaos meat, you got to rekk chaos ships and win the mission but the trick is that Vandez and his kamikadze cruiser needs to stay alive, took me two atempts at hard cos he really wants to die.
Last but not least: Final battle, where I was joined by Ravensburg, the Eldar princess-c*** and our Hero! Vandez the minefield bane! Vandez the kamikadze! You goal is simple, kill the planetkiller before he Vandez murders himself on some carnage cruiser or other minefield."
Still need confirmation but it sounds plausible.
>>47185364
No wonder PC is such an epic level admiral.
He is the only one in this entire universe who knows not to run headfirst into a minefield.
>Fighting the Tzeentch battleship in campaign
>About to warp out
>Takes 2 lightning strikes to cancel warp
>Feeling good
>30 seconds later, starts to warp out again
>Lightning strike again to cancel warp
>Still feeling good
>30 seconds later, starts to warp out again
>Shields come up last second
>Defeated
Fuck me. I hate assassination.
In the campaign, is it viable to keep ignoring worlds and protecting strategic assets like forgeworlds? I'm still early in the campaign.
>>47183565
>eldar getting hit by bombers
I don't even
Eldar ships shouldn't even be visible long enough for bombers to attack them, they can run silent and only be visible for like 15 seconds at a time.
If you can beat eldar with carriers the eldar player is a dribbling idiot.
I'm a masochist and am putting Imperial Navy favor on all my ships. Any pro tips for upgrading and using the free cobra escort ship?
>>47186309
I guess autocast the reinforcements, try and pay attention to what look like MWJ blinks, slam that mothafucking spacebar and set those things to auto target, rinse and repeat if you're line ships are lucky enough to stay alive for another 3 minutes.
Campogin Anon here,
Just in case people who have signed up haven't seen, due to popular demand, we have started the campaign yesterday morning.
There is a challenge thread up on the forum
http://tg-gothiccampaign.freeforums.net
So if you haven't been on for a few days, check the sector map and get challenging.
Normal Sunday to Sunday routine will start on the 15th
>>47186420
As someone who isn't interested in playing, will there be write-ups of some sort?
>>47182979
>voice acting is unbearable.
I was with you up until that point. I'd yo don't think "TREMBLE, FOR CHAOS COMES" is the tightest shit, get out of my face.
>>47186309
>>47186352
Don't auto cast them. Learn to watch them, and use them as an instant cast-boost-torps-ram in front of anyone who displeases you.
Upgrades should be hull, torp speed, and whatever else you want. Putting it on anything larger than a dauntless is a waste though.
>>47186096
For the most part, however if a planet is ignored long enough it will get marked for exterminatus. You then have one turn to do its mission or lose it permanently.
>>47187102
Can you rescue planets and assets then?
>>47186244
thats why you have a grot on a rok
>>47187281
>Can you rescue a planet after Exterminatus
>>47187940
