Who would win in a fight, Captain America or a Space Marine? No power armor, no shield.
>>47155523
Space marine.
Why is that even a question?
Spacemarine.
Look at how plot armor is gained by not wearing a helmet. Imagine the power when fully exposed
>>47155575
Because he's Captain Fucking America man, sure the Marine is taller but Cap is just as strong and probably faster
>>47155523
I'd say a Space Marine. Cap is stronger than a normal human, but he's still human. Breaking his bones is still likely to take less effort, he can't spit acid, he needs to breathe more frequently. Cap is a super soldier. An Astartes is a genetically modified killing machine.
>>47155601
I feel like you have no idea what the capabilities of either of these characters are.
America has never lost a single war so obviously America wins.
>>47155607
>Cap is a super soldier. An Astartes is a genetically modified killing machine.
those mean the same thing
marine would still win tho
>>47155607
I'd say Captain America is AT BEST is the standard issue combat stimulate they hand out for free to the imperial guard troops.
super soldier serum vs space super soldier serum + extra organs/bones
on paper, the marine has it
in practice, captain america has a name and probably would not lose against a mook, even an elite mook
>>47155523
Space Marine.
I love Cap, but really an Astartes would tear him in half.
>>47155642
This guy has it. Marine would win, but only if he had a name.
Ok, what about Cap vs a Scout Marine? Those guys don't have all the enhancements as a full marine but still have quite a few
>>47155642
>Sigismund
>Grimaldus
>Kharn the Betrayer
>Anyone else
Nigga what.
Compare them like that:
Captain America is jacked up dude and marine is jacked up dude, who can spit acid, has like 1 additional important organ, etc
>>47155680
The only thing a scout is lacking in terms of implants is the black carapace.
>>47155601
>just as strong
>probably faster
Hahaha oh wow.
Cap is litteraly 2 heads shorter than the standard SM, probably a good 50 kilos of muscles lighter, doesn't have litteraly centuries of experience, and several organs to sustain him in combat situation and help him survive wounds.
Again, how is that even a question? SM are made on the rule of cool, they were designed to be made the bzst of the bzst of humanity, whatever the setting. Apart from magic powers I don't see any other "human" that can get in their level.
I like Cap, but 40k simply has no scale to be measured with.
>>47155631
>those mean the same thing
No they don't. Cap got put in a machine that improved his pre existing bodily functions so he could be faster and more aggressive than the average human.
Space marines are cut open and fitted with extra organs, a kevlar-like bone plate to cover their hearts. They go under years of intensive genetic augmentation and mental re-structuring.
Cap is still human, Astartes ain't
>>47155523
when you click on this picture the csm's eyes glow
>>47155720
>plot armor
>>47155680
That sounds better. Problem is, as a scout can be anything from a 12 years old boy that barely got his first implants to an almost full fledged marine with just the black carapace lacking, it depends.
I'd say it depends where the scout is on the road to becoming a marine. Organs and experience will change the outcome greatly.
>tfw Space Marines' bones are in some cases literally bulletproof
Yeah, have fun punching the guy whose face is made out of armor-grade steel.
>>47155752
Also that. But honestly, when your setting functions on the rule of cool, and your main guys are best of the best EVAR, there's no point in trying to do dick measuring contests.
>>47155720
He's a comic book character though. He fights stupid inhuman super powered interdimensional monsters all the time. Characters like Hulk or Juggernaut are way stronger than space marines, and Cap will kick their ass if the plot tells him to.
If your friend won't agree with you, why would he agree with a buncha massive fags from some shitty website for ogling underaged gook cartoons?
>>47155720
>40k simply has no scale to be measured with.
Tell that to SupCom or The Culture
>>47155790
Again, no point in even trying when they're not from the same setting. It's just not measurable.
>>47155775
Cap beat the fuck out of Iron man and he has a suit made of a medal even harder than diamond, which is the hardest medal in the universe and possibly the world
>>47155642
So Brother Telios, 6th company Tactical Marine is somehow going to lose because plot.
But Brother Seargent Adimaxes "The Ugly" will win because sometimes he hangs out with a captain during important events.
I wish I could say that's bullshit but I've read some pretty stupid bullshit from black library.
>>47155824
I completely agree. Sorry if I came off as saying Cap would win and anyone trying to compare a Space Marine to him is a retard. I just mean comic book characters have plot armor so hard, and 40k is full of stupid powerful things for no reason, that there is no way to compare them.
>>47155840
>Brother Seargent Adimaxes "The Ugly" will win because sometimes he hangs out with a captain during important events.
Only to be beaten after the reaffirmation of beliefs and ideals arc that Cap goes through.
Then he can overpower the God-Emperor himself
>>47155840
now you're beginning to understand
this is in part because 40k is ridiculous, but mainly because comic books are really fucking ridiculous
>>47155858
>>47155873
>40k
>no plot armor
Kekkles
>>47155775
Cap's beaten the shit out of Wolverine, whose bones are almost entirely unbreakable and much stronger than the black carapace.
The Marine still probably has the fight, but Cap's done some impressive shit.
>>47155881
comic book plot armour > 40k plot armour
I feel like this might be useful in determining the outcome
http://dagobah.net/flash/Space_Marines_vs_Spartans.swf
>How many X can CA/SM beat before going down?
>>47155907
Draigo.
That is all
>>47155930
>some half-assed flash game made by a butthurt 40Kiddie ought to settle things!
Lolokay
>>47155523
>Space marine grabs Captain
>Spits acid on his face
>Captain is dead
>>47155626
To the space marine, Unity (including America's loss to the Emperor, or whoever may have taken over before losing to the Emperor) is ancient history.
>>47155944
>A lot more entertaining than this thread
>>47155831
>diamond
>medal
Diamond is not a "medal", nor is it a metal retard
>>47155958
So was my last shit, but I ain't holding it up as if it was fine art
>>47155957
>implying America didn't head to DEEP SPACE before shit went south
WOLVERINES, bitch
>>47155974
Neither am I, but apparently I have the mental capacity to understand a game that isn't meant to take itself seriously when I see one
Keep in mind that a 3 in strength is only able to pick up twice his own bodyweight, a 2 is normal, and a 3 in durability is "Enhanced"
>"FOR THE EMPEROR!" screamed sergeant Theodore, as he dashes towards the odd, tri-colored man, plasma-pistol ready and chainsword revving up
>"hurr durr buy my comics" mumbled the man, spit propelling itself onto Theodore's worn armour, as he raised his two hands to form clumsy, half-hearted fists
>SKRRRRRRRTCH the chainsword cried out, seemingly unable to even mark the man's flimsy jumpsuit, much to Theodore's surprise
>Theodore, however, would not surprised for long, as the man pulled up his palm, and with a single flick, sent Theodore's head flying from his shoulders into the foot of a warhound, causing a massive chain reaction that propelled a single vulcan round towards Holy Terra, hitting and destroying the golden throne faster than one could imagine.
>>47155931
A guy who uses a shield as his primary offensive weapon.
>>47155895
And wolverine was literally torn in half by the Hulk.
Wolverine is a fucking jobber.
>>47155523
A better match i think would be spiderman vs a space marine.
>>47155523
I'd say that a better matchup would be Captian America against a named Kasarkin. A space marine is just rediculously overdesigned and has far more operational functionality than Cap, even without his power armour.
Still, 40k is so over the top that you can't really put anything up against a space marine without getting blown out of the water.
>>47155998
"Ironically" shit is still shit
>>47156097
Still less plot armor than Draigo
Which Cap? Ultimate may have had a shittier personality but he was stronger than 616 by a wide margin
>>47155523
Captain America Vs Gregor Eisenhorn. Both of them fully equipped and in prime condition.
>>47156204
Draigo is nothing compared to what some of the Chaos Marines are pulling
In a marvel universe captain america cannot be defeated by space marines; captured, beaten or forced to flee: yes. But then he would be back shortly thereafter and defeat them with his determination and some cunning plan.
In a realistic setting I believe a space marine has the upper hand thanks to his experience, having lived on the battlefield longer than the captain has lived in total does give certain benefits.
>>47155523
Ultimate Captain America fought Hulk and Giant Man.
Normal cap stood up against a god.
Nothing can beat his power armor
>>47156294
>In a realistic setting
In a realistic setting the space marine would be crushed under the weight of his own pauldrons and be unable to move due to how poorly designed SM armor is.
>>47155626
lmao
>>47156318
>two gooks
>no Americans
Still number one, you salty eurocuck
>>47156302
>peak human
>curls 500 lbs for reps
>>47156317
Oh, please, try harder.
Such a troll is below me.
>>47156318
that's a shopped pic
here's the real version
>>47156323
>no Americans
Just like May 1st 1975
>>47155523
someone post that old screencap about space marines ripping apart tanks with their bare hands
>>47155523
It would be like a space marine against a scout.
Not impossible, but highly improbable.
Not to mention that bolters would fuck Cap's shit up
>>47156325
>>47156072
>pick up twice his own bodyweight
are we talking deadlift or?
DLing 2X bodyweight isnt impressive at all
>>47156329
>try harder
If you've read any of GW's attempts at logistics, shit's hilariously fucked. Why should I try harder if your precious meme settings can't be assed to?
>>47156130
spidey should have that one, he fights stuff on that level all the time
actually, spidey probably beats a fully equipped marine too, considering spidey senses
unless the marine can break through the webbing easily and spidey cant break through the armor
>>47156360
>c-cap is just some dudebro
>>47156416
He can curl 500 lbs and he weight about 240.
He can also judo throw Hulk
>>47156416
And he benches 1100lbs, without being ORM
>This whole thread
Marine wins no contest, its like everyone's forgetting the setting they inhabit
>>47156317
Power armour isn't really an impossible design. The smooth, rounded surfaces are also more sound than the nightmare shot traps of "modern" space man armor designs.
No, if we're looking at things realistically, where space marines start having problems is with the fused ribcage.
>>47156526
What about it?
Consider there are kids in the Marvel universe that can beat marines.
>>47155523
Who would win, a jedi knight or a space marine librarian?
>>47156528
That and jamming in nearly two dozen organs the human body was never designed for and expecting them to function when not hopped up on Anti-rejection drugs 24/7.
>>47155523
Captain America is to the Space Marine as the Wright brother's plane is to the fighter jet. He's a glorified proof-of-concept/prototype/minimum viable product at best.
>>47156526
40k is ridiculous, but superhero universes are in a class of their own.
>>47156609
>Anti-rejection drugs
presumably that's what the geneseed is for
That's why I only called out the fused ribcage. You kind of need that mobile so you can breathe.
>>47156618
Superhero universes have bullshit due to hack writers, but the thing is, their levels of hacktitude pale in comparison to the writing skills of GWs.
>>47156528
>Power armour isn't really an impossible design
It literally doesn't have the articulation points for proper movement in most artwork
>>47156647
...I hope, desperately, that you mean in levels of hackitude.
>>47156691
Yeah, thats a typo.
>>47156647
Captain America is just a dude but he repeatedly falls from absurd heights, gets shot at, punched by dozen-ton-level beings, blasted by cosmic rays, exploded, used as a wrecking ball, crushed by TONS of steel, stabbed, he also dodges all that sometimes, carries multiple people while running, dodges bullets, learns how to handle new weapons and strategies in seconds, throws beings way heavier than any peak human should, jumps twice his height up in the air, resists toxins, heals from absurd wounds, uses bullshit techniques he learned, is essentially untiring, survives absurd collisions and accidents, fights enemies with bullshit skills or knowledge, etc etc etc
>>47156674
>most artwork is bad
news at eleven
>>47156092
Underrated post.
Ok but what if Captain America WAS a space marine?
>>47155523
Space marine hands downOverkill if it's Cato Sicarius
>>47156787
What if you sucked my cock?
>>47156787
>"Welcome to the Ultramarines"
>>47156734
could he survive having his internal organs ripped out tho
>>47156787
Chapter Master of the Freedom Lords
>>47156816
He survived being killed
>>47156803
It would be very pleasurable.
>>47156744
I'm talking official artwork, famalam
>>47155601
Are you retarded? Space Marines move faster than the eye can follow and can rip hatches off tanks with their bare hands.
It's like comparing minimum rage level Hulk vs. Captain America.
>>47156838
>comic book character coming back from the dead
Could you name a character that has not done that? I'm having trouble remembering any who haven't died at least once.
No sarcasm.
>>47156847
>most official art is bad
news at eleven thirty
Cap would need his shield to take on a naked space marine, assuming he's not some green devastator redshirt chump.
>>47156875
Kid, please
>>47156734
Marines can do all that, and spit acid.
/thread
>>47155626
What is Korea what is Iraq what is Vietnam...
>>47156674
Neck, armpits, elbows, wrists, abdomen, waist, groin, knees, ankles.
It's not as articulate as medieval armor but it's not a carbonite statue. You also have to keep in mind many of the retarded design decisions in 40k stem from being based off terrible 80's metal sculpts. Things like oversized bolters, nonsensical ports and fins, etc all had to be retconned into place as gubbins due to being based off old, terrible models.
>>47156880
I didn't even mean it like that but like pic related
>>47156934
We all but resolved Iraq when we left.
The shitheads in charge just fucked it all up again.
>>47156909
>speed of sound > speed of light
>having to dodge bullets instead of having literal equivalent of adamantium skin
Marines are literally bullet proof to modern small arms. While naked.
>>47156906
Oh wow, been a while since I've seen that come up.
Anyone got the X-Ray'd version?
>>47156962
Reminder to 40k fags: This weapon can kill a space marine.
>>47156734
So the same than a space marine?
Captain America is pretty weak by Marvel standards. He can't even lift 2 tons, because he's still bound by human limits. His official lifting strength is 1,200 lbs.
>>47156980
>using tabletop rules in a fluff discussion
>uses fluff arguments for Cap but none of his game system rules
>uses rules instead of fluff for marines
Reminder that you're shit debating.
>>47157003
I don't know shit about Captain America comic wise.
I just like making sure 40k fags realize how bad their setting is.
>>47155523
>Who would win in a fight, Captain America or a Space Marine? No power armor, no shield.
The answer isHAIL HYDRA.
>>47156977
don't have it on hand
but yeah, nothing really stops official art from being trash. I'd post some kayuon images but never deigned to save them for fear of infecting my HDD.
>>47156934
>korea
>million dead gooks
>Soverenty of SK defended
>Failed to achieve total victory (North Korea, maybe even parts of China)
Partial victory
>Iraq
>Kicked in Saddam's gov like a house of cards. Again.
>Left in hands of democractic government
>Arabs, and Iraq in particular are shit at democracy
Not our fault
>Vietnam
>Million dead gooks
>Get Rambo 2 out of it
Total Victory
>>47156909
There's guardsmen talking about how space marines are so fast they didn't even have time to shoot at them before they were in their face. They cover open ground in the blink of an eye.
Apparently Captain America is so slow you can still shoot at him.
>>47157018
>implying Marvel is any better
If you're going to be an autistic faggot, do it right so you don't end up being a hypocritical autistic faggot.
>>47156962
>Marines are literally bullet proof to modern small arms. While naked.
Since when? Autopistols will kill them in both the RPGs and the TT.
>>47156962
>Marines move at the speed of light
Jesus christ dude, kill yourself.
and he does better, he uses a fucking shield that has a tiny surface area by all means
>>47157003
>his game system rules
:^)
>>47157003
>uses rules instead of fluff for marines
The fluff for marines is...variable.
I mean, there is a canon story where they get the shit kicked out of them by a bare handed Sister of Battle.
>>47155626
>America has never lost a single war so obviously America wins.
What happens when 2 countries that never lost a single war go on war with each other
>>47155523
Everybody who says the Space Marine would win is a god damn retard or fanboy. Captain America has punched out the fucking HULK. He's fully capable of duking it out with Marvel's EXTREMELY heavy hitters and surviving, when a space marine would be reduced to paste from a single punch. Old Steve wrecks a Marine's shit both out and in power armor.
>>47157086
It's been stated (somewhere, I don't know where) that stubbers, autopistols, etc. are generally of a larger caliber compared to modern firearms.
Then again, this is the same company that gave us the dreadknight/babywalker and that one bolter/plasma combi weapon arranged in a bullpup that couldn't function without some wacky-ass feed mechanism.
>>47155968
>>47157108
Aliens invade, thinking that the time is perfect for their nefarious global domination plans.
Humans team up and send them packing, duh.
>>47157056
You can shoot at him and he dodges, wow.
Then you see him fighting Speedsters or fighting Hulk and you realize comic power levels fluctuate to give it a sense of challenge, because even if the hero could rush and destroy everyone he just doesn't.
If anything Cap would be superior for the sole fact warp fuckery would really need to push it to corrupt him.
Because of... comic plot armor.
>>47157108
America wins, duh. Do you even clap when you eat your burger brah?
>>47157003
Space Marines have been killed by butt naked savages wielding nothing but a wooden spear, and that's not game mechanics, but fucking canon.
Stop jerking off to warhammer.
>>47156930
Also most heroes are like that only because they're comic book heroes
>>47157118
>Captain America has punched out the fucking HULK
space marines have had retarded plot armor moments that never should have happened as well
at one point a naked marine ripped apart a 40k tank (ie something ridiculously far beyond any modern military tech in terms of size, armor, material etc) with his bare hands
>>47157150
pfft, batman did it better
>>47157207
Did batman ever throw a batarang at a moving nuke?
>>47157175
You also have:
Space Marine Terminators get torn in half by Genestealers.
The Protector of the Faith kicked the ass of genestealers with Medieval Knights and Crossbowmen.
40k Power Levels are iffy at the best of times.
>>47157033
>tfw you realise that "Earth" is just another planet yet to be reclaimed by the great crusade and Hydra is just an Alpha Legion operative circle.
>>47157199
That's nothing compared to tanking hits from the Hulk you mong. Fuck 40k doesn't even have anything capable of tanking on the Hulk and surviving.
>>47157199
>he's just an olympic level guy, bros
>>47157236
>>47157256
point is that there is little point in having a "who has the most plot armor contest", since obviously the main character whos million dollar franchise ends if he dies wins that one
the only way this discussion is interesting if you look at what the characters realistically should be capable of doing
>>47157182
rogers without powers fighting two supersoldiers
comics ARE bullshit anon
>>47156216
Cap. Eisenhorn is tough, but a lot of his success comes from intelligently choosing, training, and coordinating with his staff.
>>47157303
The issue is 'Realistically' doesn't factor into either depiction.
Both fluctuate to a stupid degree.
If you take marines at their worst, they are dull witted but tough guys who are out-skilled and out-sped by veteran human soldiers.
At cap's worst, he's just a skilled human dude with a shield
At their best, they are both walking gods.
So generally when people say 'Realistically' it means 'One side gets depicted at their worst, the other a lot better'
>>47157303
his plot armor is also his power: the man that fights gods. He is beyond men but at the same time he is far beneath most everyone, and yet he is respected and feared
Since people in this thread don't seem to know shit about Rodgers.
>http://imgur.com/a/tR05F
Holds up the weight of collapsed multi-story buildings.
>http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111131355/4067849-7722269732-36618.jpg
Can throw his shield with enough force to cleave through the steel armor of a Tiger tank
>http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11113/111131355/4078799-9390726899-38160.jpg
Beats Nuke to a pulp. Nuke is basically a space marine as he can tank automatic gunfire unharmed and has immense strength.
>http://imgur.com/Ntwstt6
Throws his shield through a truck length-wise.
>http://imgur.com/0LVKzyJ
Holds the doors to a missile silo shut.
>>47156880
Uncle Ben.
>>47157344
you are right, realistically was a poor choice of words
these discussions are pretty silly because of that, that its hard to agree on the right reference points for both sides, but i usually take it as an opportunity to learn more about both sides
>>47156958
People have survived being shot in the head before. And losing vital signs for so long that they shouldn't have been able to come back, even assisted.
It's not like he had his heart ripped out then he stuffed it back in and healed or something.
He didn't even really die. They just thought he was dead.
>>47157383
He entered the equivalent of the marine stasis, anon. He has bullshit metabolic, regen and durability powers for a "peak human".
>>47157329
I think it would be fairly close. Eisenhorn is a master swordsman and, though i doubt that his phsycic will could disable Cap It could certainly put him off balance. From a plot perspective I would anticipate Cap to win, narrowly, and with lasting side effects.
>>47155626
Everyone in this pic vs Kharn and Abbie
>>47157400
He didn't die. He didn't survive being killed because he was never dead.
So that makes a liar out of you and your statement that he "survived being killed."
>>47157527
>no brain activity
Yeah that is pretty much being dead, he regenerate from the dead anon.
Kinda like Wolverine regenerates from being turned to puree, he died, and he came back.
Stop being a sperg.
>>47157494
I'd say half of them would fall to chaos in a day. Abby and pals wouldn't even have to lift a finger
>>47157494
pretty sure Thor should beat both of them, perhaps not at the same time
>>47157567
So Abby could winunarmed?
>>47157566
People have no brain activity and are not dead on occasion. He did not do the impossible.
He didn't survive being killed.
>"pretty much"
So not the same.
>>47157618
>surviving being killed
>>47157618
>brain dead
>THAT'S NOT DEAD ENOUGH!
Ok dude, just ok.
>>47156958
Wasn't that literally the plot to that one movie with the Rock where he was an escape driver for bank robberies?
>>47157630
He didn't suffer a fatal wound and pull through.
Contrary to popular belief, not all headshots are fatal.
>>47157661
>still has vital signs
>"dead"
Can Reverse Flash beat a Space Marine?
>>47157714
But he didn't, holy shit.
>not all headshots are fatal
It says right there, he was dead for 12 minutes, he healed enough damage to get up. For fuck's sake.
>>47157728
Well I know a Space Marine could beat regular Flash.
Because Deathstroke did it.
>>47156934
>What is Korea what is Iraq what is Vietnam...
the endless meme that people shitpost when trying to make America look bad despite having no actual knowledge of the events that took place in each of those conflicts.
>>47157175
source on that? i need to read that^^
>>47157743
>operating on a man who has been dead for more than 3 minutes
>being doctors
Yeah, no. He wasn't dead, that much is obvious because they didn't stop on the guy after he was "dead" for so long.
Trained professionals.
>>47157794
>"m-my assumptions count more than what is actually being shown"
>comic states he was dead for 12 minutes
>"Nuh uh!!!! because my assumptions bro! if I think something then it's true despite actual facts pointing to the contrary"
You trying to correlate it with whateve real statistic won't deny the fact that it states quite clearly that he was dead and then he wasn't.
>>>/out/
>>47157834
Which is itself not an impossible thing.
It's not some feat that has never been performed in the history of human kind, you mong.
But if he was dead for twelve minutes he wouldn't be in an operating room. That's a fact.
>>47157618
>People have no brain activity and are not dead on occasion.
Yeah, just look at OP.
>>47157893
>h-he wouldn't be because I say so
Yeah but he was, and she states that's how long he was dead for.
How can you be this stupid? Are you gonna assume the characters are lying because the portrayal is innacurate?
Holy shit.
>not impossible
Yes it is impossible to have your brains scattered, die for 12 minutes, then HEAL IT
he didn't suffer mild injuries you fucktard, he suffered serious injures and healed from those, you're assuming it was a mild thing and that he was in a situation where a normal human would realistic survive.
Basically you're throwing out the facts shown in the comics and replacing it with your own assumptions and delusions.
Can Samus' amazing body seduce a Space Marine?
>>47157922
>tfw people have had their heads opened with tremendous force and have survived
>like being shot a dozen times in the face and head
nigga pls
You know he wasn't dead because they kept working on him. If he died, they would shoo his corpse off of the operating table to get some other people in there. They won't just say "Yeah let's leave this dead dude in here, I'm sure all the other guys dying out there can wait."
You're stupid as shit.
>>47157948
>raised by xenos
H E R E S Y
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Why post this question at all? The Cap is probably at a Kasikins level. A fresh marine who just got half his fucking implants would ruin his shit.
>>47157958
They clearly stopped fucking working if he was declared dead and then after minutes he fucking woke up.
Mcfucking kill yourself.
>b-but it's normal to survive brain wounds
It's not normal, it happens, but it's not normal, if it downs Captain America then it's the type of wound that would kill any normal person, you fucking mongolian fruitsucking bat. This is the guy that survives jetfighter collisions. You're fucking pushing it with extreme scenarios and implying conditions were the same, and implying him being fucking dead, declared dead, and not being worked on anymore ISN'T good enough to say he was dead and then he wasn't.
Fucking get the fuck out.
>>47157969
>she has Chozo DNA & Metroid DNA
>>47157782
No, I made up that story to prove that I was right.
>>47158028
>if it downs Captain America then it's the type of wound that would kill any normal person
Way to exaggerate your character there, boyo. False.
And you're implying that they worked on him. Declared him dead. Then sat around jerking off for twelve minutes. That's not how doctors work. Go read a book about a hospital you tard. The moment they decided "he's dead, Jim" he would have been carted off to the morgue. He wasn't dead for the sole reason that he was still there.
>trying to refute universal facts with "m-m-muh comic logic"
This just shows how low you are.
>>47155523
Space Marine, since everyone from 40k is stupidly overpowered as a joke.
>>47157794
>He wasn't dead, that much is obvious because they didn't stop on the guy after he was "dead" for so long.
When you're operating on a national hero, an irreplaceable government agent, and a yet-to-be-repeated scientific milestone, with your personal and professional reputations on the line if you fail (not to mention being charged with fucking treason if there's the slightest indication that you gave less than 120% effort), you damn well keep fucking trying until the body starts to decay whether you expect it to work or not.
>>47158082
No. That's how you let other people die when you can save them. No doctor does that.
>>47158075
I'm not going to argue with you anymore because it's clear you're just a whiny bitch that can't take it he's wrong about a fictional character and can't use facts instead of assumptions.
>muh comic logic
What about it is comic logic? He has literal fucking powers, despite being a low-tier character. His peak human puts him well above any normal human even at olympic level.
And you're a fucking tard if you think the injury necessarily was survivable to a normal human. All you do is assume assume assume assume
Peace you cunt, go fuck yourself and your stupid fucking -opinions-
And pic related, he was fucking dead, suck a dick
>>47157236
>That's nothing compared to tanking hits from the Hulk you mong
Astral Knights tanked a World Engine, And destroyed it
also
>Lamenters
because they dealt so much shit, without backup, Hulk tends to pale against hundreds of CSMs+ (heavy) Support
>>47156130
Spidey probably has that one unless it is one of those psychic, magic using Spess Mehrines. Spidey Senses ain't nothing to fuck with.
>>47158102
go take a nap anon
>>47158119
>being declared dead
>actually being dead
Not the same thing, fuccboi.
I've stated multiple times how things would go, and they are factually correct. The fact that you insist of arguing even after I have proven my point shows that you have some dire need for attention, furthermore, your projection of emotional status is laughable. Especially due to the fact that you are obviously bent out of shape over the fact you are wrong, and I have proven so.
If you are done screaming like a child at me because you don't like that you're incorrect, that's fine.
>>47158150
Yeah, people have been shot in the head like that and survived.
I would say "plenty" of people. But compared to the number who die from that sort of trauma I guess that wouldn't be a fair descriptor.
>>47155626
I'm no maple-syrup slurper or britbong, but wasn't there 1812?
>>47157948
I don't think Spess Mehreens are intoFeather Pubes
>>47158102
Assuming they're working in a triage clinic, maybe. For all you know those doctors were called in expressly to work on Cap and have no pressing concerns besides him.
Not every hospital is a busy public ER, especially when it's being patronized by high-level government agents.
>>47158183
>booo look at me I'm right because I say I am despite every evidence pointing to the contrary
It must be nice living in a world where things can be correct just because you believe in them very hard.
Seriously, leave now. You're not only acting like a mong, you're also cluttering the thread by posting inanities. No matter what people say you'll insist that you're right, because clearly being dead isn't enough to be dead.
>>>/out/
>>47158199
Yeah they have but you're not exactly looking at the specific injury, so it's essentially an assumption.
But when you take into account that he has more durability than a normal human, and that he was in fact declared dead by the doctors, things become clearer.
Just saying "he wasn't dead because I say so and the inuniverse characters are wrong" is silly as fuck.
>>47158150
Why wasn't he wearing his mask thingie? Isn't it bulletproof? Was he just walking around wearing that suit without fully wearing it? Doesn't Cap dodge bullets on the reg? I'm so confused as to this whole situation.
>>47156813
I laughed
>>47158224
>I'M DONE TALKING TO YOU REEE
>I'M BACK TO TALK TO YOU REEEEEEEEEE
>YOU'RE SHITTING UP THE THREAD REEEEEE
>REEEEEEEE
>HYPOCRITICAL REEEEEE
Do you even pay attention to what you type? It's obvious that you're upset over the fact that I have outwitted you.
>>47158228
His plot armor flickered.
Better answer: author wanted to showcase his vulnerabilities while also playing up his resilience and healing.
In Universe Answer: he got dropped
>>47158258
Dude, the in comic explanation was that he was dead, by any normal human standards, and was healing up.
Seriously, it takes 5 seconds for you to look it up you dicksuckker.
Get the fuck out.
>>47158210
What about the Custodes?
>>47158280
But that isn't canon?
>>47158280
Well, those are like little Emprahs, right? Does he have a thing for chicks raised by birds?
>>47158278
>Better answer: author wanted to showcase his vulnerabilities while also playing up his resilience and healing.
But how does that show how vulnerable he is? It's so backwards. Why not make him take a bullet to the lung or something? Comics are confusing.
>>47158294
Stop denying it Kitten. Our Overlord has video evidence. Maybe you could have won her over had you oiled your abs more.
Cap might die, but keep in mind Cap can come back from the dead depending on whether or not the plot demands it.
A space marine's plot armor fails, xe stays dead.
>>47158314
Wouldn't it simply be a way to show even Captain America fucks up?
>>47158325
>A space marine's plot armor fails, he stays dead
>stays dead
Leave it to 40Kids to simultaneously appeal to the auto-win button due to no sense of scale while also demanding Captain America's abilities be limited by 'realism.'
Space Marines still lose to semi trained bullet spewing Shoota boys let alone another super hero who does insane shit on a regular basis. Captain America by his own setting's standards doesn't afraid of anything related to dudes with guns shooting a lot.
40k fans seriously make shit up whenever something doesn't match their imagined power level; fill in the blanks with retarded excuses like "well in 38,000 years they obviously already have that but better" which disregards the overlying theme of technological regression.
This is why they lose every debate they get into with military nerds, their idea of whats invincible rarely matches up with actual real life facts or even the presentation in fluff. Stupid shit like "lol landraider survived a nuclear blast, must be impervious" sounds great until you learn the Chieftain tank of the 50s survived basically the same thing. Does that mean maybe the Land Raider isn't that amazing? Nope, it means they make up some other retarded measure like fording oceans or some other garbage.
>>47158325
>xe
>>47157494
Man that has RED HULK in it, one of THE most OP characters Marvel made and if he's been nerfed I'm not aware of it. Red Hulk alone could probably take Abbie and Kharn.
>>47158362
>implying 40k is auto-win
>>47158362
Is this shitpost copypasta or original? I think it has potential.
>>47158370
What if there was a Red She-Hulk?
What if she was on her period?
Could anything stop her?
>>47158388
Personally I find balls to be an incredibly sensitive weak spot.
Thus a ship made entirely of balls must be impressively fragile and prone to destruction.
>>47158411
Hindu mythology.
>>47157782
First Heretic. Word Bearer gets shanked in the throat and bleeds out. Literally a tank dying to spearmen civ v style.
>>47158435
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahmanda_astra
India, how much do you have to compensate?
>>47158435
>fuck those guys.jpg
>>47158423
>implying your balls aren't made of Nintendo Entertainment Systems
Looks like you won't make it into the Imperial Guard.
>>47158411
>if there was
Anon, there is
>>47158362
I remember the one thread where anons insisted the JL would lose to 40K because the JL was forced to have warp powers.
>justice league losing to 40K shit
>>47158437
>Word Bearer gets shanked in the throat and bleeds out.
Well it's a Word Bearer, there's your problem.
>>47158460
Well doesn't she look like a redder Starfire.
Why does she need weapons?
>>47158362
That was a baneblade and completely different from the Chieftain tank. Cold War tanks could tank nukes if they were a way's away from the bomb itself. The baneblade was directly hit by a MOAB and launched a hundred feet into the air and drove off without even a shaken crew.
>>47155674
what about chad velencio?
>>47158460
Well, the JL would lose to in his prime Emprah but supes alone would wipe the floor with everyone else.
>>47158493
>Well, the JL would lose to in his prime Emprah
no
>>47158476
Because it looks cool
>>47158493
>the JL would lose to in his prime Emprah
>>47158511
Well they might, except for Superman I think.
Manhunter gets psionically rekt, the rest can't compete physically, flash could possibly keep up if he wasn't a fucking jobber despite his god tier power.
Batman would solo because he prepped.
>>47158511
>>47158520
Is the Flash in the JL? I can't recall, I thought he left. They really need to scale him back like they did with Silver Age supes.
Supes is a bad match up to the Emprah though since he has a known weakness to mind affecting and magic, which is the Emprah's best points.
>>47155727
This needs more attention
>>47158532
But anon, Aquaman would make the Emprah too wet to fight.
>>47158532
>flash could possibly keep up if he wasn't a fucking jobber despite his god tier power.
I like the idea that the Flash is a complete retard. So he thinks a zillion thoughts a second due to his speed force, but every single thought is dumb as rocks. Anything times 0 is still 0.
So he sees things coming a billion years before they happen due to speed force, but then his retard brain still tells him to go for it because he's a retard.
>>47158540
Does 40K magic count as magic?
>>47155814
Supcom is a mechanicus wet dream.
>"Yes glorious Monkeylord. Fire that hard,long microwave laser."
>>47158591
I love how that question sounds so stupid but is actually important and relevant.
>>47158587
Best headcanon.
>>47156528
>fused ribcage
Is it really one solid bone plate? I kind imagined the rib-cage to change into something resembling a Lorica segmentata, so it can have some flexibility. Still even a normal ribcage don't really move.
>>47156318
The irony of this image is that this was a man convicted of murdering defenseless innocents and the man shooting him was hounded for the rest of his life for putting down a monster wearing human skin.
>>47158207
1812 ended in a draw, basically. The most decisive victory was on the part of the US army at the battle New Orleans, but that actually happened AFTER the war was formally over
>>47156579
I think a sith-lord is a better match.
>Give in to your anger Librarian
>My armor is contempt, my weapon hatred. Prepare to die psyker.
>>47157494
>>47157567
Which chaos gods would the various Marvel characters fall to?
I feel like Dr Strange might go for Tzeentch.
>>47156346
The Saudi Abrams are monkey models. They don't even have modern armor, it's just steel.
Arabs also don't know how to use the fucking things. How many times have you seen the idiots roll a tank, unsupported by infantry, into an urban area, alone, then stop? At least if you're in an export Abrams you might get lucky and get saved by the ammo blowout system instead of the entire turret flipping like a coin.
A better question is;
Can Galactus eat the Tyranids? or vice-versa.
>>47158721
Galactus is not organic. While I can't comment if the Tyranids have a way to cause him real harm (I doubt it, but it's possible), they certainly couldn't digest him.
>>47158721
>implying Galactus will have a chance before I consume all the Tyranids
>>47158721
happened in the comics, more or less
galactus won
>>47158207
You mean the war where the British burnt down one house in a swamp and the US sacked York (Toronto)?
>>47156816
Space marines have no abs
>>47155523
>No power armor, no shield.
The Marine.
>power armor, shield.
Cap, unless the Marine is a psyker.
Cap's taken down psychics before, but a Librarian or Chaos Sorcerer is getting close to Doctor Doom in terms of raw power.
>>47158702
Dr Strange's entire line of work is fighting the beings from beyond, so none.
>>47158675
That would be a reasonable assumption, but it's specifically "fused into a solid mass". So either they goofed with the wording or marines just have a second cuirass under their skin and don't need to breathe.
>Still even a normal ribcage don't really move.
You'd be surprised, the ribs are fairly flexible. Gotta fill those lungs up, after all.
>cap holds up his shield
>bolter round impacts shield
>cap explodes from fragmentation and concussive force
it'd be over before it even began
>>47159324
His shield absorbs all kinetic force thrown at it, and Cap is known to survive explosions despite the concussive force.
>fragmentation
How do you think he survived WW2 pal?
Why do 40kiddies even try?
>>47159324
>implying shield of plot armor won't black it & without any harm
>>47159324
The shield has strange physical properties which cause it cast off kinetic energy rather than direct it into the user. Considering the name "vibranium", it may be that the metal somehow converts the directional energy into vibrational energy, and thus ejects it into the air. That being said, Cap literally can't damage a space marine through their armor at all, even if he went to sleep
>>47157207
Batman weaponised his memories. That is some shit that Space Marines would see and be proud of.
>>47159324
>v i b r a n i u m
Cap is like a Thunder Warrior.
>>47159371
I never understood that. If the shield worked that way then some of the impacts he's taken would disturb the air with the amount of energy that he would have been blown apart of lit on fire.
Like any of the dozens of times Thor has full on struck his shield.
