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>>47139980
>>47149004
Starting a new thread is undoubtedly the correct answer, and I expect full marks.
What kind of perks and resources would I need to be able to recreate Life Fibers from Kill la Kill?
Though preferably actually symbiotic rather than parasitic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1cXYan0NQA
For all of your needs.
>>47149192
But what if I have a need for speed?
>>47149173
You have passed the first step.
Now is where creativity comes into play.Use them. Shine bright, Jumper.
>>47149182
I'm not sure, but if you've picked up one of the perks like that free supernatural detection one from Twilight, you'll probably want Toggle from Young Justice or the coat, bangle or other power supressing perks/items.
>>47149252
I WENT TO THE DANGER ZONE
>>47149307
While those will help controlling Life Fibers, they don't help with the actual recreation of them.
I want to be able to make my own supply and the only idea I've had so far would be to make a thread version of a FMA philosopher's stone and Im not evil enough for that.
>>47149306
I always endeavor to do so.
>>47149349
Considering Life Fibers are a species why not just use genetic perks?
>>47149379
Mainly because I grabbed a bunch of tailoring perks and I want to put them to use.
Plus if I could make a benign version then I can give superpower granting clothes to people. I know there are perks to just give people powers, but I like being thematic.
>>47149410
I meant use genetic perks to remake the Life Fibers.
Not doing threadly updates now or anything but figured as the newest version is not yet in the drive I should amend and clarify some of the stuff that's come up. Giants reward is explained better in notes, as is the import stuff. Pets can now be imported. Eunuch and The Unworthy are now mutually exclusive.
>>47149422
Oh, whoops. That will work, just got to find the resources now, thanks.
>>47149317
HEADING INTO TWILIGHT, SPREADING OUT HER WINGS TONIGHT
>>47149349
>While those will help controlling Life Fibers, they don't help with the actual recreation of them.
Nooooo they won't and yes they will, respectively. It's not about somehow applying your self-specific toggle to others, it's about applying your self-specific toggle to certain perks that stand in the way of doing it.
>>47149454
On a side note I recommend researching their DNA in Kill La Kill if you have the chance. Mostly since it gives you more data available than if you just study the life fiber items.
What kind of enemies piss you off the most, Jumpers?
>>47149533
Dodge tanks.
Little fuckers just won't sit still long enough for me to blast them.
>>47149533
Other Jumpers. Vicious fuckers.
>>47149533
The kind with emotion manipulation and no sense of self preservation.
So, Overlord jump question. If I took Level 100 and Dark Wisdom as a Magic Caster and converted D&D spells to YGGDRASIL magic and then tried to fight Momonga, what would happen if I cast Mage's Disjunction? It states you gain a 1% chance every caster level to destroy all enemy magic items (up to and including artifacts) and as a level 100 character, technically I would have a 100% chance of doing so... Would this work or am I wanking way too hard?
>>47147218
Disney was like, jump #100something, WAY before our messiah gig. We weren't even a collective consciousness back then. Hey, everyone has old shames in their past right?
Also, the kind who plays by his own rules and thus one of the few candidates able to truly relate to demonic converts.
>>47149182
>perks
Xenobiology and Reverse Engineering, XCOM
Biosynthetics and Chromosome Analysis Specialist, Biomega
The entire Former Assistant perkline from Street Sharks
Last Hope and Artificial Parasites from Skullgirls, if you feel able to adapt those techniques to Life Fibers
Parasitologist and Project W from Resident Evil, especially with the Hypnos Gene
Biotechnician from Posleen Wars
>resources
Progenitor Crystals from EVO, if you don't mind budding Life Fibers from yourself
A Geneforge is always handy
You can pick up a Pharmaceutical Company in Resident Evil for mo' supplies
The Slab, from Legacy of the Aldenata
A good stock of plasmids and/or the parasitic slugs from Bioshock could help
>>47147249
Thanks for the suggestions. Hmm.
1. Interesting suggestion. On the one hand, as written seems to only work on HUMAN concepts according to the wiki. On the other hand, IS capable of elevating humans into something surpassing the planet with other things boosting it. We have eyes of those at A+++ as well as being a Page of Void so-worth tinkering with, at least.
2. Good question, the inside of the Brahmastra certainly seems to suggest it CAN be forged into some sort of complex infrastructure. Not sure if it even has any capabilities for actualising concepts though; mantra is really more like a kind of ki.
3. Isn't it an explicitly scientific psychic ability? This being viable really hinges on whether it's possible to think wholly new concepts into being with something like the Imaginary Numbers District, which IIRC is more the Magic Side's thing.
4. Pretty much. Cards on the table-we still have no idea what we're doing in Digimon.
With in the wake of Civil War, is the MCU Jump in need of an update? What about when Doctor Strange come out, and the cosmic shit gets involved again?
>>47149786
I think Red was planning to hold off until at least Avengers 3 beacuse at this rate there's just going to be so much new stuff.
Besides, I watched it today and-without spoiling anything I can safely say nothing sticks out as being worthy of added, really.
>>47149182
I just used the Terra Formar's import option to be a Life Fiber Mosaic, then got the second mosaic of Bagworm Moth. You literally just start producing whole bundles of the stuff on demand.
Sure you miss out on a few other options and you'll likely be told you're doing it wrong, but when you yourself are the producer and you start undergoing all kinds of nifty genetic modification, no one really stops to understand what that means for the Life Fibers you produce.
>>47149777
You are the best, thank you! Especially for the resources; I want to be an ethical mad scientist, as much as such a thing can exist.
>>47149794
Until the Black Panther movie and they expend on Wakanda (hopefully).
Sup /jc/
What does the inside of your cosmic warehouse look like?
>>47149859
The main portion of the warehouse is just a standard warehouse. Anything truly important is in one of my many astral/outerplanar fortresses behind a fuckton of traps.
>>47149859
Like a warehouse. But, you know, cosmic.
Nah, but for real, it's a cluttered mess. About the only things that are organized are the go-racks near the door. The shelves are littered with random artifacts, and there are a bunch of boxes full of Pokeballs scattered around.
>>47149888
In other words, if you've ever seen Warehouse 13, it looks like that. Except with a slightly less chance of knocking over something that can kill you.
>>47149859
Mine may or may not have been taken over by a dragon. They is useless gold coins and gems everywhere.
>>47149888
>The shelves are littered with random artifacts
You really should keep those organized. I keep mine in boxes labeled "Artifacts" and "Artifacts (dangerous)."
>>47149928
*there
>>47149794
I don't know, I could see a new drawback wherethis one special forces guy is somehow able to ruin your life because muh determination. I seriously loved that movie, but fuck was the villain stupid.
>>47149936
I'm a jumper.
That's how I protect against random intruders in my safe space. And also bugs.
>>47149939
Which movie?
>>47149859
It...well...it's a high-tech basement split up into two different rooms:
- The Armoury
- The Engineering Bay
It's also a Medical Bay on the top floor of the building that has the Bath House.
It's just weird, the World Seed got involved and next thing I knew, the little house in the corner of a massive warehouse became a home in the middle of a foggy area that imitated the world I found myself on.
Still not sure if Jump-chan was angry at me for that or not. All I know is, she's getting along WAAAAY too well with Schrodinger.
>>47150002
Civil War. The villain isan ex-Sokovian (because of fucking course he is) Spec Ops who lost his family in Ultron's attack, so he decides to make the Avengers destroy each other as revenge, using the conflict over Bucky as a trigger.
>>47149939
After all the aesthetic perks, the default changes are actually pretty minimalistic. We actually like the bleak concrete; the main changes have really been redistributing the lighting to have some parts of the Warehouse have absolutely no shadows, and other parts left in darkness to conceal just how thoroughly space and time have been meant in those regions to hold the Imaginary Numbers-pockets.That and different kinds of concrete-like surface arranged in a sort of mosaic divided by red-shifted light beams.
Also there usually isn't a deconstructed Safeguard/Chim/Fatima/Cyber Elf being probed for information dangling on the wall.
>>47149939Same here. That said-I have to say Zemo is legimitely the most intimidating and successful MCU villain thus far. I've noticed the more powerful they are individually like Malekith and Ronan, the more vulnerable they are to getting humiliated with slapstickI'm legitimately worried I'm going to end up remembering Zemo being more menacing than Thanos
>>47149859
depends where you are in it, the entrance room is a lounge club with a lot of doors, pillars and stairs with solid Australium murals lining the walls, nothing that would give away its nature except for what comes out of the water fountains, the colossal PC set up, and the cut Tanzanite platform the size of a small car that dominates the center of the chamber and the bright red spectral containment unit. the real weird stuff is off to the side and in the basement, the upper floors which I made by using that one perk from God of war to take some of the height off the tower and move it into the warehouse proper are mainly pallets of exotic materials or examples of technology I haven't been able to figure out how to replicate, or cultural/historical artifacts valued because they are old or historically significant. Some of the side doors lead to my companion's apartments, the various specialty rooms, and storage facilities for ships and giant killer robots, another leads to the tower where I keep my Zurg hive, University of Toronto and library of Alexandria.
The basement has a lot of grow lights and serves as a greenhouse for golden apple trees
>>47149859
The last timethat I was present, at least,Red asked that question, it was a big empty room.
It is now a grassy meadow. Still empty.
>>47150026
So...no registration act? I knew it was going to have trouble since they can't use the m-word, but I didn't think they'd just make shit up to replace it.
>>47149794
I don't think that long. We got Dr. Strange coming later this year, GOTG 2 ('17), Spiderman: Homecoming ('17), Thor: Rag ('17), Black Panther ('18), Avengers 3, Pt.1 ('18), Antman & Wasp ('18). TV series wise we'll have Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Jessica Jones S2, & Defenders (hopefully) by end of '17.
Honestly I think there could be enough material by end of '17, but it's up to Red to decide what's enough is enough. time will tell.
I want to steal BP's suit, because it's sick as fuck.
>>47150057
inb4 he follows you out of the jump to retrieve it, that dude had no chill.
>>47149777
>Thanks for the suggestions. Hmm.
Your welcome.
> Interesting suggestion. On the one hand, as written seems to only work on HUMAN concepts according to the wiki. On the other hand, IS capable of elevating humans into something surpassing the planet with other things boosting it. We have eyes of those at A+++ as well as being a Page of Void so-worth tinkering with, at least.
I suppose that would be an issue.
Oh also on a side note your KnK jump is chronologically implausible.
>3. Isn't it an explicitly scientific psychic ability? This being viable really hinges on whether it's possible to think wholly new concepts into being with something like the Imaginary Numbers District, which IIRC is more the Magic Side's
thing.
While their considered part of the science since the magic powers are more scientific.
>4. Pretty much. Cards on the table-we still have no idea what we're doing in Digimon.
The big bad of Tamers the D-Reaper basically well you when it comes to evolution but worse, except on a smaller scale, and more hypocritical.
Basically it's a data clean up program that grew past it's limits, mutated into a digital eldritch horror, noticed their was an entire world of data, ended up being an apocalyptic threat to it, escaped to the human world, noticed that modern humans grew past their original state, basically went "You evolved and that's bad.", and then used some kids despair to evolve into an even worse digital eldritch horror.
Although if your going to consider modifying your digimon jump to get stuff to use for the experiment I'd recommend taking some of the Digi-Spirits instead of a partner.
Alternatively taking one of the Code Keys with the excuse of 'Digital God things decided "Hey their leaving in ten years we can get rid of this", or something like that.
Mostly since it gives you access to a data thing to upgrade, and you don't have to worry about issues like 'Is this a companion or not?'
>>47150054
Actually. it's really great how they avoided that. The first twenty minutes makes you think they'll do something like that,but when the meeting to sign the thing takes place, the villain bombs the building while disguised as Bucky, shifting the plot to a manhunt for him.After that the oversight becomes a background thing, it's honestly the best thing they could have done.
>>47149859
A warehouse. Lots of stuff on the wall - posters from different places, weird shit I've found and items I got for free but never use. Bed in one of the corners.
Workshop, lab, kitchen and bathroom I had to knock together myself/get a very confused plumber in to do. Stasis pod gathering dust.
Chests of treasure, wardrobes full of doomsday devices, a small spaceship, couple of motorbikes and cars, lot of guitars, y'know the usual.
>>47149859
Mother Base. I'd carved up the warehouse as much as I could and that ceiling just wasn't getting any lower. Lots of room to grow, lots of natural compartmentalization due to the struts. The featureless plane isn't great, but I'm hoping to land in Bioshock so I can try siphoning the ocean. If Dark City can do it...
Oh, a question about the Wuxia Jump, I rolled and got the Three Kingdoms Era, could I fanwank it as being Dynasty Warriors-style Three Kingdoms? Or must I stick to the source material?
Another Blame! Question: does the net sphere count as a public network for the purposes of something like administrator access from kid radd? My understanding is It was intended to be public eventually but got locked down because silicon life and other people unleased netchaos and the builders went haywire.
>>47150116
I don't see a Dynasty Warriors jump, so go nuts. Lü Bu that shit.
I used FF7's "any spinoff" flaw to jump into Smash instead so I'm not gonna judge.
>>47150057
True. I just know everyone will be bringing their A-Game in Avengers 3 so I'd understand holding off until then for when things really escalate.
>BP's suit
...really? I dunno, the suit didn't really do it for me. Didn't even seem to really give him any new powers apart fromthe adamantium spikes, and I got the impression BP didn't even really need the suit to kick everyone's ass
>>47150069
>KnK (jump #42) is chronologically implausible
What do you mean by this?
>esper
True; problem is more that it's unclear exactly what an Imaginary Numbers district is capable of at this stage and whether it can meaningfully interact with things other than magic and Personal Realities.
>mutate
>Code KEys
Huh.
Nah, it's a little too late to change that jump up. Besides, we're looking to try something that will need quite a lot of finesse. Programs that can mutate into homicidal monsters sound like a bad idea for designing reliable, resilient software.
>>47150174The suit basically makes him stronger, faster, and tougher. He dominates Bucky, and fights on equal grounds with Capt. Despite having no powers other than kicking ass without the suit. Imagine the suit, combined with Peak Asgardian. How dope that would be.
>>47150174
>What do you mean by this?
To start you arrived in 1996 which means Shiki just went into or is about to go into her two year coma.
Meanwhile the events that lead to Fujino's murder spree don't occur till after Shiki leaves her coma, but the reason you gave for destroying the rest of the Asagami family occurred way before that.
This means Fujino is unlikely to go on said murder spree do to your interference. Which means the conflict with Shiki was unlikely to occur.
Meanwhile the main reason Shiki even knew to go after her is because her father hired Touko to assassinate her.
This makes those events even less likely to make sense.
Your probably still going to end up meeting the main characters though, but that's mostly because Fujino is friends with Azaka Kokutou a.k.a. Mkiya's sister, and because Araya is targeting both you and Shiki.
However basically unless something really weird is going on, or you spent two years staring at a wall a significant part of your KNK jump is really damn unlikely.
However if you don't want to have to change too much to fix this I can think of a solution to the fact that you have Shiki as an enemy.
You can just make it the Shiki from her Melty Blood route that was summoned by Alaya.
This has the advantage of the fact that unlike the normal version Melty Blood Shiki lacks a lot of her redeeming qualities because Alaya gave them so little information they think the situation is just some dream. Which makes her even scarier.
>Nah, it's a little too late to change that jump up. Besides, we're looking to try something that will need quite a lot of finesse. Programs that can mutate into homicidal monsters sound like a bad idea for designing reliable, resilient software.
To clarify the D-Reaper isn't a digimon, but an entirely different type of reality distorting data life form.
Then again while the Digital World itself is rather stable digimon themselves might react to emotions too much.
>>47150323It does? In that case-damn. It didn't look nearly as bulky as, say, Tony's so I assumed that was natural super strength/speed he was using; I've never read a Black Panther comic in my life. If it does, that thing's /incredibly/ efficient for being able to do what it doesSpeaking of other confusing powerlevels, sometimes Scarlet Witch's TK seems like it's as strong as the plot needs it to be. One minute she's struggling to project away a bomb's blast, the next she smashes Vision through a building and implicitly shut down his density manipulation somehow
>>47150368
Note: His suit is made from vibranium.
>>47150368
>Scarlet Witch's TK seems like it's as strong as the plot needs it to be
True to the comics then.
Got a question about the Persona Jump, why isn't there an option to be a Fool? I would think that a Jumper would be a perfect fit for the role.
>>47150455
Probably the same reason half of the arcana are locked behind a perk despite there being no real benefit to using any of the arcana over any others aside from the few special ones. Arbitrary restrictions for no real reason.
>>47150455
Balance, mostly.
Though I think it'd be funny to have the Fool character and the Jumper tries to outprotag each other.
>>47150364
...huh. It's been a while since I've watched the movies. Must've gotten the dates wrong.
If her murder-spree didn't yet happen then-it's quite possible WE went on a murder-spree against the rest of our family preemptively for bringing about the conditions for the risk of it to happen-and those asshole kids, just to be sure. In which case Shiki could have been investigating the mysterious death of almost the entire Fujino family and hunted us down, leading to mutual accusations of hypocrisy, death threats and a slap fight escalating into cosmic shankings.
Not to mention since Araya was targetting both of us he could well have tried to pull something on our sister to lure us out at the time.
Isn't Melty Blood a Tsukihime property, not Knk? But yeah, if the above doesn't work let's go with that. Just means the Void feud started in Tsukihime. Probably had the same mutual YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG reaction on first sight.
>the D-Reaper isn't a digimon
Ah, so it's more like a really buff MMZ Cyber Elf? I'm not quite sure what the distinction is though, other than this D-Reaper seems to be artificially produced whereas I think Digimon are just kind of...there. In the digiworld.
I'm really, really not a Digimon buff.
>>47150455
>>47150478
It would be blatantly the best option. Then again, making the jumper the fool from the outset might have worked.
>>47150506
Pretty much this, that's why I asked. It's the only reason why I'd Jump into Persona.
If not Fool, what's the best Arcana for a Jumper, anyway?
>>47149888
Like a normal warehouse that I've divided into a warehouse, a armoury, a material sample room, a kitchen, a workshop, a film room, and a computer lab. Inside my office, there is a computer which I can use to control the Biosphere and run Sburb: Warehouse edition.
>>47150455
Basically, it's because the Fool Arcana isn't just the Protagonist Arcana, it's also what gives them the ability to change their Persona and create new ones. It's immensely stronger than any other Arcana.
>>47150478
There actually is a reason here too. In the newer games, all characters and all the shadows have been Magician through Hanged Man. Teddie is the only exception, and he's a Shadow. If that changes in P5 I'll remove that restriction.
>>47150506
>>47150481
The fool is not the wild card. The Fool is just an arcana like any other arcana.
>>47150616
>In the newer games, all characters and all the shadows have been Magician through Hanged Man
But that's...that's wrong. Like, blatantly wrong. Every Persona game has a character for every arcana and persona for all of them too.
>>47150616
Pretty sure the Wildcard ability is not the Fool arcana man. It's related to it and generally shared but they're not identical and you can easily just say you can have Fool Persona/Arcana and not have the Wildcard ability.
>>47150501
>In which case Shiki could have been investigating the mysterious death of almost the entire Fujino family and hunted us down, leading to mutual accusations of hypocrisy, death threats and a slap fight escalating into cosmic shankings.
Maybe, but honestly I'm not sure she'd give a damn. This is the person who spent all her time moping about wanting to kill stuff, while being horrible at actually doing so. No seriously the only person she actually killed was that cannibal Lio.
This includes a psychic mad bomber that went after her because she saw him doing mad bomber stuff.
>Not to mention since Araya was targetting both of us he could well have tried to pull something on our sister to lure us out at the time.
Oh this reminds me of another issue. If the conflict still occurs the sixth movie is likely to be a major problem for you if you don't change things. Mostly since it has Touko sending Shiki to help investigate something at the school Fujino went to. Said something being the user of the Unified Language and also a teacher giving someone memory stealing invisible fake-fairies.
>Isn't Melty Blood a Tsukihime property, not Knk? But yeah, if the above doesn't work let's go with that. Just means the Void feud started in Tsukihime. Probably had the same mutual YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG reaction on first sight.
One of the later games had a Shiki Ryougi route that can basically be summarized as "Shiki Ryougi thinks she'd having a weird dream, gets into a lot of fights, Arcuied shows up as Archetype Earth, Ryougi notices her lack of death, Archetype Earth basically says Gaia and Alaya decided to have them fight for control of the world or something like that, and Ryougi still doesn't seem to realize she's not dreaming'.
>Ah, so it's more like a really buff MMZ Cyber Elf?
They actually don't really explain the different non-digimon data life forms that well. Just that they don't follow the same 'pattern' (for lack of a better term) as digimon do.
>>47150616
Have to butt in here, that reasoning for the restriction makes zero sense. All the games have social links/characters/shadows for all arcana, that's kind of the point. Even if you were trying to say it was just playable characters it's still wrong because several of the allowed arcana are from npc's instead of the main characters (At the very least I know the Strength and Hanged Man ones aren't main characters in the newer games. Speaking of, isn't the jumper meant to include the older games too? Why use only the newer ones as reasoning?).
>>47149182
When you say "recreate," do you mean making knockoffs from scratch or just growing them en mass?
If it is the latter, you just need to get some integrated with your body and then grab something like Broodmother from SCP, or a symbiote from Symbiote. Then you can just eat snacks and pop out bundles all day long.Technically, if you have a high enough pain tolerance and a lot of patience you could just pull some out of your body and regenerate it over time (like Senketsu did to recover from the blinding trick he and Ryuuko pulled on Sanageyama), but that's not really sustainable.
Antispiral's got the right ideas about redesigning them, though.
>>47150616
Are you going to answer any of the responses? It's been about half an hour now.
>>47150915
Holy shit dude, be patient. Not everyone is on the thread every minute of every hour of every day.
>>47150777
A little column A a little column B.
Recreating from scratch it appealing to me because it means I can create a friendly variant, but it also means a higher chances for unwanted variables and will prolly take time to get right.
On the other hand the Broodmother sounds like a easy and cheap production solutions, but then Id have to deal with it being the original world eating kind unless I mess with the Life Fiber DNA to begin with.
Honestly Im going to just take all these ideas and put them in a blender and see what comes out.
>>47150947
The first one was posted just 3 minutes after his last post. It seems pretty patient to calmly ask again after half an hour of waiting since the first post.
>>47149807
As much as I liked this idea back when TF first came out, with how the plot's gone I... can you blame me for waiting to see how it ends first?
>>47149859
A giant flying island, hovering over a perfectly still endless ocean, which reflects the alien, eternally night sky, with its uncountable multi-colored stars and ever shifting moon. The world is filled with beautiful gardens and soft ethereal music, the architecture seemingly taken from the Kingdom of Heaven itself. And above it all stands a golden, impossibly tall tower, giving a truly overwhelming impression of ancient glory, and unspeakable eldritch power.If you can’t tell I really dig Red’s warehouse upgrades.
>>47149859
It's a cave. Interior decorations change depending on what type of music we're playing at the moment, but the bar's always solid.
>>47150991
Why? Don't tell me the Mosaic Organs are in fact and the true masterminds behind the Johj, the Chinese and the Romas now.
>>47150655
It turns out the Wildcard Ability is something that can be used by those of the Fool Arcana, and that it is possible to become a Fool as Aigis managed it.
As for the how, when, and why; it was never really explored outside the fact that, yes, it is possible.
>>47150991
>I... can you blame me for waiting to see how it ends first?
...okay yeah I admittedly have to accept defeat to that logic. It just seemed like a pretty easy way to go about it since the more a Jumper progresses, the higher quality it gets. Plus all the other perks people have given would give you more customization but... yeah TF really is like Toriko lately isn't it.
>>47150992
Well I'm glad someone's making good use of them!Spoiler Warning:The Warehouse options aren't getting old anytime soon.
>>47151026
So just say Fool's can't learn it. Problem solved. People can be the Fool, get Fool persona and there's no Wildcard shenanigans. It's not the first time a problematic ability is dealt with like that in JC.
>>47150955
Well, if you want to get started quick, consider that Senketsu was made friendly by cutting his Life Fiber genetics with human DNA (specifically, Ryuuko's). The Cadmus blueprints from Young Justice can help you get the Human/Fiber ratio right if you don't think Isshin's research alone is enough.
>>47150618
>>47150655
In Persona 3 and afterwards, it's the Fool that has the unlimited potential necessary to create new Persona. Igor specifically says as much, and we also see the two wild cards who gain the ability in the series (Aigis in The Answer and Elizabeth after the end of The Arena) changing to the Fool Arcana.
>>47150641
Correction - there's a character for every Social Link. But we know from Aeon that a character's social link and their Arcana don't need to be the same. Meanwhile, there's only one playable character with an Arcana outside of the 0-XII paradigm (Teddie), and the only enemies with an Arcana outside that paradigm are either Final Boss-tier or Optional Superboss-tier. It fits with the Fool's Journey as well - Death splits the Fool's Journey, where he transitions from his old self to a new one.
>>47150915
>>47150976
I've been out and about, mate. That last post was before I got in the car, and I don't love you all enough to post on 4chan while I'm driving.
>>47151043
...I'm not Wild Card anon.
>>47151032
Oh I'm not disagreeing with what you're saying at all, but I do not want to die a roach-y death.Please don't jinx us with a Terra Formars-Toriko crossover event.
I can't handle Gourmet Johj.
>>47151026
Something almost identical to the Wildcard ability was also used by non-Fool Arcana Persona users in the first two (or three if the two Persona 2 games as separate games) Persona games.
>>47151049
On the first part, see >>47151043 . It's an easy to fix problem.
On the second see >>47150765 for why the 'playable character' justification falls apart and remember that Aeon is really not representative of a normal social link. Saying that it works because it fit's the 'Fool's Journey' makes no sense either, because you can't be a Fool in the jump as is so that's irrelevant. Most importantly, it means that Jumper's might not be able to choose an Arcana that does fit them, which seems like a far more important thing then half hearted excuses about it fitting the settings theme or something (Which as explained above, it doesn't)
>>47151086
>Gourmet Johj.
I don't think I have a picture to accurately describe my fear.
I will try anyway.
>>47151049
>But we know from Aeon that a character's social link and their Arcana don't need to be the same.
But Marie's persona is an Aeon persona and her social link is the Aeon Arcana too??
>>47151044
Im not sure how I feel about that because as far as I can tell it is always what gave Senketsu human intelligence and morality.
While it would be awesome that the super empowering clothes I give people would be able to work with their host, there is something sketchy about creating sentient life only for them to be used as a tool.
Christ this took way, way too long. Enjoy friends
>>47151147
And here is the companion supplement. Everything in this and the jump itself are subject to change, especially the price of these companions.
>>47151147
...
Well this is going to be awkward for the Eyebrows who started making one.
>>47151147
>>47151153
You've... been gone for quite a while, haven't you?
Eyebrows picked it up and has been working on it. ...maybe this is a good time to try and talk it over. I dunno. Something. I really hope there's a civil discussion so you two could figure something out instead of people suddenly jumping down either of your throats over some petty popularity contest.
>>47151191
>>47151155
There is definitely no need for a shitstorm. I honestly haven't read the threads too closely and had no idea that brows had staked a claim while I was gone. I'd be fine with just having two jumps like the Metalocalypse.
>>47151234
> I'd be fine with just having two jumps like the Metalocalypse.
Not up to you. You need to talk it over with brows, she has first right to the jump as is.
>>47151234
I really prefer just one jump so we don't have people suddenly making their own jump versions for other settings and trying to claim precedence, but it's whatever you and Brows end up figuring out.
>>47151049
I'm the Anon who asked the question that started this, and well, I gotta say two things.
Thank you for creating the Jump and while I still don't buy your reasoning behind not including the Fool Arcana, I suppose it doesn't really matter since I've been reading on Elizabeth and Aigis' circumstances and figured a way or two to gain the Arcana and the Velvet Room.
It'll be a lot of work, and it will force me to interact with people in every Jump, but it'll be so worth it. At the end of it all.
>>47151248
This. If eyebrows does't mind this jump, then it should be left as just this jump. Otherwise this LoL jump should be kicked to make room for Eyebrows' jump.
>>47151234
If it's any consolation I wasn't aware anyone had picked it up until now either; never seen a WIP or anything. But yeah, >>47151191 has the right idea.
For what it's worth, this is the first time in a long while I can honestly say the jump looks amazing and I can't think of any criticisms at all, except maybe clarifying how minions work post-jump? Do they spawn from the Warehouse or effectively function as a group that counts as a single companion with perks distributed amongst them?
>>47151234
Addendum: Well...technically I really, really wish I had a bigger CP budget but I legit have no better explanation why you should increase it other than I need to afford morewaifusshiny things so-y'know, it'll hurt me some but it's up to you.
>>47151241
Chill, Lovecraft was simply stating that they don't mind sharing a jump location if need be, so the bite in your wording isn't nessesary.
Does Eyebrows go without a username or something?
Looking at the archives she last posted back in #274.
>>47151099
I don't think either of us is going to convince the other on XIII+ Persona here. I've provided my reasoning - if it were just the Persona users or the enemy Arcana that'd be one thing, but both is pretty clearly a unified theme.
As for the Fool, I'm really not a fan of the idea. I might add in The Jester for a limited Fool, but it's pretty clear that the Fool is now intended to be something special. I'd sooner toss in an extremely expensive Fool's Journey perk, and I already know there isn't a price I could assign it that wouldn't make it a must-buy.
>>47151128
Kusumi-no-Okami is actually Null Arcana rather than Aeon.
>>47151311
I think so. She shows up in the IRC in the occasion.
>>47151285
To be fair to anon this is a really touchy situation right now. LovecraftAnon was practically gone for months with no contact whatsoever. To everyone he just flat up disappeared.
Then after someone else decides to take a crack at it, instead of checking threads to see if anyone else was giving it a shot, he posts his own version.
Anon could have been less snippy yeah, but the tension now is so thick you'd need a lightsaber to cut through it. Instead of just saying "Oh I don't mind if it's two jumps" he needs to not get ahead of himself and just put things on hold until Brows gets a look at it and talks it over. We really don't need any misunderstandings swallowing this up and possibly driving other people off.
>>47151311
She goes under 'Brows'.
>>47151311
Just goes by Brows in thread and chat, last posted on the 16th of April.
>>47151311
They also go by Brows, try 4plebs'ing that term.
>>47151241
Technically Lovecraft Anon claimed it back in September. He was just gone for a while.
>>47151324
>>47151330
>>47151331
>>47151360
Yeah, searching that showed more recent threads. First result is thread #788.
>>47151368
Anon who is overly curious about the 4plebs archive here, seems like it might have been even earlier than that
http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/42492537/#42494486
http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/40601990/#40614893
>>47151368
>>47151392
Which is where the problem is. He was gone for a long time with no contact to anyone. How would anyone have even known where he was, or if he was coming back? I don't blame Brows for eventually wanting to take a crack when there was no hint of a return.
It's like with Muyo and how he had a claim on like... eleven different settings. He just up and vanished, no one knows if he's working on any of those.
If you become a neolit in Animorphs, can you return to your base form or switch to alt forms?
So wait a minute, if Lovecraft anon claimed it first(which is what I've been getting from other posts) but has been gone for a while so Brows made a claim, who has the right to it? Could someone explain this, please?
>>47151313
So despite the fact that many of the available arcana is represented by non playable characters in both Persona 3 and 4 you're sticking to this 'playable arcana only' spiel? Really? Are you so utterly stubborn that you purposefully ignore facts that contradict your view of things?
Here's a list of the available arcana in jump that aren't playable characters in the 'new' games.
Persona 3- Magician , Emperor, Hierophant, Chariot, Justice, Hermit, Fortune, Strength, Hanged Man. That's 3 out of 12 that are playable. In P3P it's 6 out of 12.
Persona 4- Empress, Hierophant, Justice, Hermit, Strength, Hanged Man. That's 6 out of 12 again.
So you have either equal representation or only a quarter of the first 12 arcana as playable characters. Does this tell you anything, ANYTHING at all, that you might, MIGHT, just be wrong about this?
>Fool is meant to be something special
You mean like the protagonist of the story? Like what the jumper is since your jump makes them the start of their own mystery rather then any canon persona game? Not even sure why your bothering with the Jester, since it's not the fool in terms of what persona it holds and means something else entirely, which are the only points that have been brought up as to why the fool is wanted, never that it has the wildcard and even that has been repeatedly said to be an easy to solve issue.
Kaguya is her Persona, which is an Aeon persona.
So, Jumpers, what's your favored weapon, for those times when you just want to beat the shit out of something? For me, it's my lightsaber. Heavily upgraded (thank you, Girl Genius jump) but still functional, the blade can now extend to ridiculous lengths and even bend mid-slice to turn a near miss into a very unpleasant hit.
>>47151153
>Darkin [200]:
>Darkin can also revive themselves if they suffer mortal wounds, however there are a few limitations to this ability. They can only return death once a day and the revival weakens them greatly.
Uh. First, that should probably be return from death once a day. Second, that's not meaning that Jumpers can do that, right?
>>47151454
The first claim.
And given that that wasn't respected for Undertale, I say we keep the current LoL jump.
>>47151454
That's what we're trying to work out Anon. Brows and Lovecraft can talk it out.
>>47151469
Oi. Don't you go trying to stir shit. Everyone's already agreed the best option is for both jumpmakers to talk it over and come up with something.
We don't need you trying to drive anyone off.
>>47151469
Aaaayyyyyy fuck off.
>>47151469
>Wasn't respected for Undertale
Really now? Did whoever made the first claim ever post a WIP? I don't really remember that happening, but then again that was when I first started coming to these threads so I might have missed it.
>>47151417
Honestly I think Muyo's a good example of needing an expiary date of, say, 4 months max if there's no WIP posted. I've never seen him even post here for, as you say, almost a year.
As far as I'm concerned Rebuild of Evangelion is free game for anyone wanting to take a crack at it.
>>47149857
Ah, Wakanda. The most racist nation in Marvel.
>>47151510
Nope.
>>47151525
*4 weeks
>>47149859
A bit of a maze really and depends on timeline and stuff.
But the house remains a costant....as does the fact that there are big carboad boxes with stuff all over the place and big cases as well at least four pianos all over the thing.
>>47151542
Four weeks seems like a bit too little time, a lot of shit can happen that can see jumpmakers gone for that time.
A few months on the other hand seems more fair.
>>47151533
>Cure for cancer
>Don't want to share it.
>Why?
>Western dogs don't deserve scrap off their table.
>Meanwhile neighboring countries are drought stricken, as well poverty & disease ridden.
>Wakanda has so much food, they're all well fed & nourished. They don't give food or help their neighbors. Too bad no Storm, because T'challa x Storm was great.
>>47151525
Can't really make a Rebuild jump without the last one, which is taking forever to come out. Speaking of Rebuild, is it just me, or has the power level been raised quite a bit? Not to Nobody Dies levels(where ADAM is a casual planet buster at 50%), but still..
>>47151578
Actually yeah, now that I think about it 4 months is a better expiary date. Just realised that in the middle of posting that other post.
But yeah, basically-I think we should accept that sometimes people just leave without announcing it to go back to the wild world of IRL, and at the same time we should provide a reasonable timeframe for people working on stuff who're also feeling let down by IRL concerns.
>>47151454
I guess the person who claimed it first and finished it first.
>>47151593
The same thing could be said for Richards.
He was getting paid to not release a lot of his inventions.
>>47151593
>cure for cancer
Wasn't that Tony?
>>47151599
Fair enough. Dunno whether to expect it or the Heaven's Feel movie to be out first.
Sort of. I think it's mainly because of individual Angels taking up the role of 3-4 other Angels. Remiel got buffed hard. I think Zeruel's actually equally as physically as tough as he used to be, it's just his AT-Fields that got buffed ridiculously, and also the giant naked Rei nonsense. That said they lack the hax of Arael and Armisael, and Leliel hasn't changed much really.
Man, I really wanted to see Nobody Dies Armisael in action. He seemed like a cool guy, for an Angel.
>>47151510
The original anon who claimed Undertale actuallyand I am trawling 4plebs right now to find the postrelinquished it after the... several trainwrecks of people claiming it, then being told someone was already working on it, after said UndertaleAnon actually had nothing to show.
>>47151313
>I've provided my reasoning - if it were just the Persona users or the enemy Arcana that'd be one thing, but both is pretty clearly a unified theme.
I decided to check some of the older stuff. Unless Persona 1 and 2 are no longer canon, or there was some kind of major metaphysical change to human nature between 2 and 3 it's actually possible to have XIII+ Arcana's as a normal human.
The first two(or three depending on how you count) Persona games have six characters with XIII+ Arcana's as their primary Arcana.
Oh also on a side note Persona 5 is apparently changing the social link system, or at least replacing it with something slightly different.
>>47151455
Sorry, what are you talking about? Persona 3 has Magician (Junpei), Priestess (Fuuka), Empress (Mitsuru), Emperor (Akihiko), Hierophant (Shinjiro), Lovers (Yukari), Chariot (Aigis), Justice (Ken), and Strength (Koromaru). Then we get into P4, which adds Fortune (Naoto). So the only two that we don't see as a playable character are Hanged Man and Hermit, and both of those still get human Persona users - Chidori and Jin, respectively.
Also, as further evidence that Social Links != Arcana, Persona 3 has SEES members act as the female protagonist's Social Link for Moon and Akihiko into her Social Link for Star.
Point taken on Marie - I wasn't aware that they made her playable in Ultimax. She's still not a human, though.
>>47151665
Remind me, didn't Armisael just flip everyone off to go rule as a god in South America?
>>47151099
Why do you want to be a Fool?
>>47151454
Lovecraft called it first and finished it first, I say keep his. But he should definitely get in contact with Brows ASAP.
>>47149859
It's a white room. Like this, but much, much bigger. There's a big ass computer, a pretty large laser, a wall or 2 of potions and paints, and some furniture.
Also have a few murals. no big deal. I organize my stuff pretty well.
>>47151525
That's bullshit, you people will try and snipe each other because someone hasn't posted or you'll claim you haven't seen it.
>>47151234
Multiple jumps aren't allowed.
Alright whenever Brows wants to talk about this I can be contacted most easily at [email protected]
This really came out of left field for me because I've been back in this thread for a while and hadn't read anything about Brows making it.
Hopefully we can work something out. I worked pretty hard on this and I don't want to give it up, but I'm sure Brows will feel the same way and in the end I was gone for a long damn time. I have my own IRL reasons but that's just life sometimes.
Please please no shitstorm please. There is absolutely no reason anyone has to fight. If Brows insists I can just delete the damn thing. It is not worth it.
>>47151774
Chillax bruh. There's no shitstorm, just a couple shitheels.
>>47151756
I just agreed with the other guy 4 months is a good time limit for a claim in between posted/relinquished WIPs.
>you'll claim-
There's this thing called 4plebs that is a bane against bullshit and oneupmanship.
>you people will try-
Well excuse me for hoping that for all our faults as a community we can try to come to a consensus instead of acting like petulant manchildren over actually important stuff
>>47151709
Sort of. He's in cahoots with Arael. Well, he got caught in her mindfuck too but she persuaded him to go along with whatever she's planning.
>>47151732
Why wouldn't you want to be a Fool Arcana?
The shit they get involved in, not only is it insane, but they are legitimately threatening even to a Jumper. I fucking love that.
>>47151774
It’s cool, you made a great jump, and I am sure you and Brows can work something out.
>>47151812
>good time limit
No such thing, you vicious little shit.
>>47151593
Don't forget that white people aren't allowed.
>>47151153
I just have one question - what's your logic behind some of these prices.
I mean why the fuck is Aurelion Sol 1600 CP.
>>47151774
Let's not jump to conclusions just yet, man.
I mean Brows is probably at work right now, so it might take a bit of time. But I've already gotten the email address passed over along with the message, so hopefully sometime today this can be resolved. I've been helping critique the jump she had been making and while it's definitely a different kind of system, no one says the entirety of one or the other has to be discarded. Both jumps have their good points and interesting material.
Don't let thread tell you what to do in this SPECIFIC case. Critique is one thing, but when it comes to which creative work is accepted, I think that's something only you and Brows can decide. This is a really unique case I feel, and no one's going to have the right answer except you two.
Just take a deep breath, try to calm down a bit. You two are sensible people. A solution can be found, just need to work together on this with jolly cooperation.
>>47151822
So it's for the power.
>>47151822
You realize you're going to be involved in the same sort of events regardless of what Arcana you pick, right?
>>47151864
Because he made the goddamn stars in the sky. Also he's as old as the universe. Also he's made of goddamn stars.
>>47151896
Quick question before I make an ass out of myself.
Hypothetical situation: You add a non-Wild Card Fool option. If I choose that, will there be a second Fool who is the Wild Card?
>>47151032
What are the jumps with options that would let you do that?
>>47151884
>"If I take this option I'll get involved in insane events that'll even threaten me."
>"So it's for the power."
What the fuck, anon.
>>47151846
Explain why it's acceptable that IPs be locked off for the rest of time for years on end, then.
Vicious little-oh, the gall of that hypocrisy. Have I not made it clear I absolutely do NOT approve of sniping jumps or all that other petty bullshit? I'm saying-reasonable time limit of 4 months; literally just have to post a WIP during this stretch. Meanwhile YOU are proposing we do absolutely nothing in the face of circumstances beyond our collective control that leave someone unable to make a jump for the rest of their natural life, or if someone leaves without telling anyone/passing on their work.
>>47151680
Just a heads up, I don't think the guy went by any username so it's a bit tricky to find, but I think I'm getting there judging by finding SpyroAnon's posts about ruining things in Undertale.
>>47151965
Explain why you think you're a jumpmaker's god and deserve to be kept updated on their lives at all times and appeased so you don't steal their jump.
>>47151965
*just have to post a WIP to extent this timeframe
It's hard to be coherent when you're feeling salty, apparently.
>>47151846
>>47151965
Can you two not have this argument again? You don’t agree, the thread will never agree, so just leave it the fuck alone.
>>47151934
That's really up to you. The way I envision it, you're going to be the protagonist of your Jump, and there isn't going to be a wild card in it - just you, your friends, and the Perks and Items you purchase. Unless you take the +0 CP option I'm adding in when I revamp it that'll make you a part of the actual games, in which case the existing Fool will be present. But if you want there to be a Fool in your Persona game I won't stop you.
>>47151976
>a jumpmaker's god
The fuck did I ever say that. The fuck did I even say anything about stealing a jump? I've never even MADE a jump you fucking retard, I'm saying the current system leaves some IPs indefinitely locked off. I don't want to be "updated on their lives" but I think it's reasonable to see a WIP posted to prevent Muyo's situation from happening again.
Now you explain why you think it's fair to the rest of us if one person leaves for good without telling anyone else.
>>47151992
This issue isn't going to go away if people just pretend it doesn't exist.
>>47151884
> they are legitimately threatening even to a Jumper
Sure, yeah, power.
>>47151896
The other Arcana don't have the added consequences the Fool has though, nor do they ever actually know about it.
When you really think about it, it's the other Arcanas, and not the Fool that has the free ride in that World. After all, when it came down to it, the Fool is the one who would face the Big Eldritch Bad at the very end, alone, and in all but one case, would sacrifice themselves to end it.
That's why I asked about the Fool, what could be more entertaining to Jump-chan, then watching a Jumper try to be the second Fool to survive their Journey?
>>47151924
>What is Stellar Fusion
>a potentially free perk that does the same thing and can go to any companion
>what is the fact that Aurelion can be shot and killed by Jinx
>>47151774
Not gonna lie, expected a shitstorm.
I don't have the time to read it just this moment, because I'm going to be spending time with my mom, but it does look good. As much as I don't want to just drop my ideas, I'm sure you don't want to drop yours, and I'm not gonna be that asshole that insists you take it down, because then everybody loses.
Long story short, I'm a bit busy right this moment but hopefully the result of this can be jolly co-operation. I'll shoot you an email as soon as I can.
>>47152024
Are...are you serious? Stellar Fusion does NOT make full-size stars, it makes super-hot fireballs that can grow to the size of a large building. Aurelion Sol makes entire constellations/galaxies of no-bullshit stars
The League's sealing most of his power. His lore explicitly talks about him cultivating civilisations through his works, which lemme tell you-Sundancer never did.
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>>47152043
I honestly think we only avoided one because everyone involved was freaked out at the thought of one actually happening, and even then as you can see there were some aftershocks about tangential issues.
Anyway. Just wanted to say-thanks for being understanding about this. Glad this thread probably won't devolve into a bitter feud.
>>47151936
God of War lets you make a big fake environment around your warehouse and basically make it look different, with its upgrade letting you move Attachments and reallocate where the 'storage' space is, so it's not just a big square if you want.
Bayonetta's warehouse upgrades let you mix and match some of the aesthetics.
Matrix grants access to 'falling code' pieces, but combined with Bayonetta it can do shit like snowfall instead.
Fountain's 'Biosphere' warehouse aesthetic made by SJ-chan is kind of like GoW's warehouse upgrade? But I feel that it's a more specialized version. Whereas GoW lets you make big and grand changes, Fountain's Biosphere helps with fine tweaking.
And of course, my jumps like Macross, Resident Evil, Indiana Jones, that stuff is going to have attachments like none other. Soooooo have fun.I've always been more of a fan of utility and customization instead of 'make it better', so it's why my Warehouse stuff tends to be more bells and whistles.
>>47152043
>Mother's Day
>I'm going to be spending time with my mom
>Mother's Day
Ugh.I'm such a horrible son.
>>47151993
I mean, it's not like it's without precedent. The first three Persona games don't have Wild Card protagonists, but they got up to plenty of high stakes stuff. More than the Wild Card-bearers did, actually.
>>47152024
When not restrained by the League, Aurelion Sol dwarfs the entire Scion avatar (since we don't know enough about full grown Entities) by a ginormous measure. For one thing he's capable of perpetual personal interstellar flight unlike uh, every other League champion.
>>47152006
>I've never made a jump.
Rest my case.
>>47151993
While you're here I have a question.
When it comes to Castlevania's Power of Dominance what would you consider the Bullet and Guardian souls manifesting as, magic, spiritual/soul constructs or a case-by-case basis depending on the soul?
>>47152048
>The League
Wot's that?
Oh you mean that thing Riot's phasing out for a more 'grand world' where they don't have to tie everything back to glorified bloodsports?I am bitter, yes. Some of their new lore's been fantastic, especially with stuff like Mt. Targon and the new Shurima stuff, but god DAMN.
>>47152107
Way to completely ignore all the valid points I've made and resort to the old jumpmakers>anons fallacy.
I've answered your question, and you've failed to answer mine beyond crying because you're afraid of dealing with a legitimate issue demonstrated by Muyo's absence.
So, Jumpers!
Who Romulan here?
Alternately, who did what in the Star Treks and why?
>>47152128
I'll have to take your word for it. Personally I'd just like to know where they got the juice to bind things like the star dragon.
>>47150992
That sounds beautiful. What warehouse upgrades, specifically, did you use to turn it into that?
>>47151896
>>47151993
This reminded me of something.
Are those temporary Deus Ex Machina power ups that were needed to resolve most of the main Persona plot lines available, or are we stuck solving the new plotline with just the purchased stuff?
I mostly realized were going to have less resources that even the Persona 4 group, and most of those groups barely fixed things even with their advantages.
>>47152083All children are horrible in regards to their mothers, anon.
>>47152142
Apparently the star-beings sponsoring the phenomena around Targon forged the crown that's binding Aurelion Sol to their whims, with the penalty of destroying one sun for each time the star-dragon defies them.
And part of Aurelion's little lore / story blurb was realizing that their control over the crown's waning inch by inch.
>>47152043
Thank you Brows. I'm sorry this happened, and while I'm thankful you don't want me to take it down you shouldn't feel like an asshole if you decide to. I should have posted about it or previewed it months ago. I'm going to work anyway so I wouldn't have been able to talk for much longer either.
>>47151967
FOUND IT
http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/43329199/#43345101
>>47149533
Ditto fighters.
>>47152016
People get really angry about the "what would Jump-Chan want" justification, so I try not to consider it. But if I were her? I'd be up for seeing how someone who wasn't a Fool could handle things. Gotta mix it up.
>>47152114
As in, would they count as magic for the purpose of magic perks from other Jumps? I generally dislike weighing in on cross-Jump interactions, but I'll say they're closer to spiritual constructs. You could probably still get some benefit out of them on a case-by-case basis, though.
>>47152148
Power of Friendship Deus ex Machinas are pretty much part and parcel of Persona, so I won't say you're not getting one. Just don't neglect your social links just because you didn't take the Social Link perk, and don't count on it, because you just might be facing the final boss instead of the cutscene boss.
>>47152184
She's saying she emailed you so you can work together though
>>47149859
It's gonna look like Eldar built it soon enough.
>>47152294
That's what I thought I just wanted some official weight behind it.
I was just curious because some souls (Flame demon, Malachi, etc) seemed pretty similar to direct spells, while a lot of others summoned the creature to 'cast' the soul (Such as Persephone and Amalaric Snipera personal favorite)
Anyway rambling aside, thank you for clarifying.
>>47152294
>Power of Friendship Deus ex Machinas are pretty much part and parcel of Persona, so I won't say you're not getting one. Just don't neglect your social links just because you didn't take the Social Link perk,
Okay. Also I just thought of a few mroe questions.
1. Assuming you don't take the Revelations drawback is the distortion you have to fix a 'You can't miss it' one like in 3, or a 'you actually have to have been looking for it' like in 4 one?
I mostly realized that as is their a good chance the jumper won't even have a guide like all the other protagonists, and it would be kind of embarrassing to fail do to missing the distortion.
With the Self-Aware perk how powerful are Awakened and Ultimate personas compared to a normal one? Oh also is the primary benefit supposed to be the persona upgrade, the self understanding, or sort of both together?
>>47152294
Speaking of Persona, just gonna add a location to account for 5 when that comes around?
While it seems like they're doing some degree of big changes i'd honestly be okay with just acknowedling its existence/events post release.Also the idea of Persona Cops and Robbers is too amusing to not go through with
>>47152294
>People get really angry about the "what would Jump-Chan want" justification, so I try not to consider it. But if I were her? I'd be up for seeing how someone who wasn't a Fool could handle things. Gotta mix it up.
Huh. Never thought about it in that sense.
I'm just gonna go and sit down and ponder for a bit. Thanks for the insight.
>>47152146
Glad you liked it! As to how I did it? Titanic Sanctuary from God of War, and the Biosphere from The Fountain lets you make an “outside world” for your warehouse, and Creator's Grace in Bayonetta gives you some more esthetic control as well as making everything look more heavenly, the tower is the song tower from Ar Tonelico buffed with all of the above, and the endless ocean is from the FOB scenario in the Metal Gear jump, The music is either coming from the tower or just from one of my numerous soundtrack perks. All of the other buildings on the island are either just decoration or some of the various warehouse additions from too many jumps to list, like Franken Fran, Indiana Jones etc.
>>47152430
That's also something I'm going to leave up to you. There's definitely going to be signs that something is going terribly wrong, especially because you know - based on the fact that you took the Jump - that something is going wrong.
Awakened and Ultimate Personas are significantly stronger than Normal and Awakened Personas, respectively. I tried to make both sets of benefits equally interesting for you.
>>47152455
I don't even know about P5. I haven't had time for RPGs in over a year, and I always feel weird making Jumps for something I haven't played. I'll try to add some references to it, but like FO4, I wouldn't mind someone else taking it.
>>47152601
P5 is looking interesting. More varied dungeon gameplay, some cool new aesthetics, and bringing back some themes from Persona 1 and 2. I'm looking forward to it.
>>47152601
Have a PV:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFx77tQvWTk
And a staff interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT5_c2L7QH8
And know that this is the most hyped I've ever been for anything ever.
>>47152545
Thanks!
>>47152673
>>47152703
I'll give them a watch later, but I don't think it's going to generate $200 worth of hype for me. Might be considering it if I had a P3 already, but I never had the heart after I missed my chance to get a backwards compatible one.
>>47152778
It'll be on PS3 & PS4.
>>47152601
Sorry but I thought of a few more question.
Does the difficulty of using an Arana/Persona that your personality is incompatible with go away post-Jump?
If not is it possible for the jumpers Arcana to eventually change?
With the Strange Journey drawback can you clarify which SMT games it includes?
Oh also if it induces SMT Strange Journey like I assume will the jumper need to be able to get past a matter disintegrating wall of plasma like in normal SMT Strange Journey, or will their be a way to get into the Schwarzwelt without being able to deal with that kind of stuff?
>>47152869
I have a slight feeling that the PS3 version is going to be gimped in some way, like the past-gen versions of Shadow of Mordor.
Then again P5 doesn't seem like it'd be the type of game that absolutely needs the extra power, as long as they're smart about it.
>>47151456
My wives.
>>47152998
>SMT Strange Journey
Man, I can not wait for the real jump. HYPE!!!
>>47149859
It's a fucking warehouse bro. It's a lot of crates, with the crates magically expanded so I can fit a lot of stuff.
>>47151456
I use a very simple system.
I fight with a sword most of the time(unless it's a setting where swords aren't really used)
I use my bare hands when shit gets serious.
I pull out The Sword when I'm completely and utterly pissed, or if I need it.
>>47152601
In my persona jump the fact that I could not become the fool or even select a relevant arcana to me as if I wasn't good enough for it drove me incredibly bitter causing me to avoid social links like the plague and beat the final boss purely out of hate for these SMT power of friendship bullshit. Contrariness ho.
>>47153016
Well that game had a lot of enemies on screen at a time, combined with fluid combat, and great scenery. Of course it was gonna be gimped for PS3. Persona Games are different, a lot of it isn't that graphically heavy or particularly demanding on the processors. However I suspect the real treat would be playing it on PS4. Too bad it won't be on PC, I don't play console games anymore. Steam is where it's at.
>>47151456
Green Lantern Power Ring. It's everything you could possibly want.
>>47153083
>The Sword
From Dresden Files?
>>47151456
It's kinda funny, but:
>>47153029
This guy has it right.
Akitsu and Kurumu are my Death Scythes, with Kirishima as my Unison Device.
If they aren't available, then I've got my Puppet Master strings from Hellsing that I've treated to channel chakra. After that, a number of mystic codes for pretty much every situation.
Okay, I've got a question on Vampire Diaries and judging by how it's written, I'd prefer anyone BUT the jumpmaker answer:
Are these power levels serious? Every view I've seen of it shows that it's just a shitty supernatural romance show, and yet the jump makes it seem like the world's in constantly in danger of getting karate-chopped in half by a pissed off vampire who didn't get enough blood in his coffee.
>>47153196
Isn't it a nerfed version?
>>47153203
No. It's a Sword I've spent my entire chain making and upgrading. I've likened it in the past to Red's "Bow of infinite fuck yous". It's been a long term project for the ultimate Sword. I've never named it because I'm fucking terrible at names.
>>47153233
Maybe I should get started on that too, I've upgraded my body and powers to acceptable levels. Maybe Mystic Code and Fuuinjutsu the Puppet Strings to the point where it becomes a Noble Phantasm?
>>47153227
let me put it like this:
The cast vs a modern military? The army would win.
None of the witch's higher-power shit is capable of being done in the blink of an eye and they are not continent breakers. The jumpmaker just has a group of waifus in that jump that he wants to hype up.
>>47151456
I guess it would be Miniaturized and efficient Minecraft Antimatter and Red Matter Bombs, upgraded with Asgardian tech from Marvel, Calamitytech, Setup Mage and Angel of Logic, delivered through Eliatrope Portals or Farscape Wormholes.
>>47151456
my chainsword can cut through vacuum, think about that for a second,, not passing through vacuum, cutting vacuum itself leaving rips in space.
>>47153227
>>47153363
>the cast can't beat a modern military
>the jumpmaker was bitching about how if he lowered power levels by even a little bit, even the weakest vampire would assrape them
>even a late-game jumper
>then this
What.
>>47151456
BCTL guns (Negima). No need to beat the shit out of someone, I just remove them from the battlefield, accomplish my goal, and handle them separately at a later time.
>>47153228
Yes. However it's still a very powerful weapon. Plus it's constantly at 200% thanks to Hope Corgi being around. It still isn't up to snuff of the DC Jump's rings, but it's still great weapon.
Plus I use my strength, so getting hit with a baseball bat hurts. Getting hit by baseball bat by likes of MCU's Thor, that's deadly. Not to mention if the construct is destroyed, I can just make another.
I'll be gettin the DC ring soon, I'm slow on jumping. Mostly like to see what's going on in the thread, browse /co/, shit post in /pol/, and etc. So that takes up lots of time.
>>47151456
Ragna Blade.
Speaking of swords.
If the people who took notice of it last thread are around, is this any more balanced?
>>47153502
Yeah, you know how that guy said he made jumps purely for power and needed Merchant to rein in Bartimaeus?
Turns out, this is what happens. The most powerful characters can take on a group of their own kind, but they are NOT that strong enough as to be a global threat.
>>47153660
Oooh, a lot more fitting of the price point and definitely a shoe-in for me on release. Good show, SMTAnon.
>>47153363
Wait, there was continent level stuff in the Vampire diaries jump?
>>47153733
Even in the jump it looked like the best that a jumper could achieve against the army with the perks available would be not die after being filled with countless bullet holes.
>>47153471
...so?
>>47153892
There isn't. Shit seems to be worded as such, but doing some comparisons between the TV show and the jump - the only thing lining up power-wise with what the Jumpmaker claimed was the Witches managing to make alternate-plane prison worlds and an Afterlife.
Which did not happen in a second.
>>47153892
The jumpmaker claimed even a late-game Jumper like the Anti-Spiral would be bent over a table and rodgered righteously up the arse.
We're seeing now the Jumpmaker may've been full of shit.
>>47152869
I own neither.
>>47152998
I'm going to say yes, because it fits with the general policy of in-game restrictions going away. The Strange Journey drawback is basically all of them, except filtered through the lens of the Collective Unconscious, and with at least some of the goals being preventing things from going pear-shaped rather than surviving the aftermath. So don't worry about Plasma Shields - your Persona will get you into the Schwarzwelt.
>>47153047
Sorry to report that I haven't made any progress on it in a few weeks. I just haven't had the time or mental energy to write, and I feel like I need to start over on several perks. Still, I've got outlines of all the perks and Companions, and a lot of ideas for the drawbacks and items.
>>47153984
Got a quote for that? I thought it was more he flat out admitted he was only making the jump for power.
More importantly-does he even have an arse to rodger? I thought he was made of tentacles. Trying to rodger that sounds like a terrible mistake to make.
>>47154031
I beg to differ.
>>47154054
Elaborate. I find it hard to imagine how pleasurable feeling something-potentially multiple somethings-lodged in your urethra would feel.
Something candiru something piss in a river
>>47154031
It was in IRC when it happened. Of course if Red didn't open her mouth and tried to ram her "opinion" down the guy's throat we might have a decent jump. But no, she fucked it over for us.
>>47154031
I am reading the Vampire Diaries jump right now and I don't see any of the bullshit power levels you are saying are in there.
The only thing particularly powerful are the mental abilities of True Immortals and the incredible difficulty in killing True immortals or Vampires, both of which are appropriate to the setting and show.
>>47154129
First, that was a joke and I would rather not talk about lewding the people here seriously.
Second, go look up sounding.
>>47154165
*original vampires
>>47154159
Take your grudge elsewhere, anon.
>>47154159
Everybody was telling him to tone his shit down in the IRC, cabrone.
And when he brought it to the thread? Everybody STILL told him to tone the fuck down.
>>47154222
No no, anon. Clearly only Red calls for nerfs. Nobody else does. At all. Nope. None whatsoever.Everybody is the Red Menace.
>>47154236
Get out, Carlos.
>>47153660
Personally I was thinking you could've just swapped the price-tag on Kuri with the Peacemaker, but this works just as effectively.
>>47154165
Yea after reading the whole jump the only thing that suggests power beyond the scope of the setting is the magic resistance perk that says that it would allow you to tank the magical equivalent of a dozen RPGs.
>>47153990
>Sorry to report
Hay man, it’s cool. Take your time and have fun. I eagerly anticipate being able to begin jumping itfuriously. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5uT7fas-WE
Anyone else got any jumps where you've started acting out things from other settings? Y'know, shamelessly ripping something off and passing it off as your own. I do it in a lot of jumps
Built a Labyrinth after taking over a Goblin cartel in WoW as a blood elf followed by some minor kidnapping, started a group called the Vox Populi in One Piece, paraphrased most of the speech in this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQ4Sb_rnCqw
to Harry Potter after meeting him, set up a sword in the stone type dealy in ASoIaF, etc.
Plenty more but those are the ones that come to mind.
>>47154222
And guess who was leading the charge.
It's funny how everyone bitches about Val and then casually ignores how pushy Red gets. Her "wounded deer" act every time someone questions her just grabs everyone every time and it's frustrating how all of you let her bully the community.
>>47154236
Trying to joke it away doesn't make it any less true, anon. She censors and bitches everyone who doesn't suck her off.
>>47154159
>>47154258
>>47154165
He actually did end up listening to input and messing with the jump making it less of a power wank. One early version basically had everything focused on what was the best for total power. Eventually he focused more on representing the setting and characters rather than the power, while still managing to keep it in. Every perk being described in relation to the ones above it was boring as shit to try and build for.
>>47154280
Okay, first off? Making a lot of assumptions here. I don't see "everyone" complaining about Val just a few salty fuckers-which considering Bancho numbers among them I frankly consider a commendation for Val.
Second off-if you're going to bait can you at least make up your mind what bullshit you're meddling? First you complain about Red saying nothing, then you complain about Red "leading the charge" and you honestly wonder why everyone treats you as a joke.
