Fuck the Old World! Long Live Age of Sigmar!
Heroes sighted:
Stormcast Eternal (Sigmarine)
Human Barbarian
Priest of Sigmar
Dwarf Warrior
Rumored Foes List:
12 (Pink?) Horrors
4 Screamers
2 Flamers
6 Cultists
1 Sorcerer
1 Deamon Prince of Tzeentch (boss)
in all honesty the stormcrap and that dwarf are ruining the box for me... and did i mention the nigger priest???
>>47148813
What about the priest?
>>47148789
>>47148805
holy shit these are beautiful minis.
>>47148778
better view of the box art
>>47148778
I'm sure it will be a fun little Hero Quest, but I don't really think there's a market for it in this age of coop vidya? Plus, those small game lines have never really been a profitable affair for GW? Necromunda, Mordheim et al.
>>47148778
I feel like that foes list isn't correct. There's at least 4 beastmen in the box too going by the pics
>>47148877
Boardgames are still pretty popular and its probably aimed more at drawing those folks into the hobby. Plus it'll hit the nostalgia button for a bunch of us.
They probably don't do to badly in proffits with limited run being an excuse to jack up the price.
>>47148910
Would be nice if it's not too hard to convert old material.. There was more old stuff in published WD, CJ and shit than I expected.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warhammer_Quest
Can you get hold of pdfs of Deathblow Magazine anywhere?
>>47148850
The new Diablo expansion?
>they actually think people are going to warm up to Age of Smegma
>>47148789
The heroes seem a little mainstreamy compared to the old version? Standard archetypes, nothing really stands out about them...
>>47149074
The old heroes being "A dwarf", "A wood elf", "A barbarian" and "A Grey Wizard that looked like Gandalf".
I mean, dude. Come on...
>>47149074
wot? the old version was about as mainstream as you can get. Barbarian, Dwarf, Elf and wizard.
>>47148789
first look at the new dark elf/high elf style?
Kinda weak. Priest looks great though. So do the chaos dudes.
>>47148778
>black paladin
Wow! Is that Diablo:Tabletop game?
>>47149074
Can't tell if youre being serious.
>>47148882
That's why it says rumored
>>47149161
It's a priest not a paladin.
>>47148783
>>47148789
>>47148805
Can anyone translate?
>>47149213
Who cares, he still looks like paladin.
>>47149103
>>47149113
Chaos warrior, berzerking trollslayer, pit fighter dude...
>>47149226
those were all expansion heroes (of which there were a shit ton)
base game just had the elf, dwarf, wizard and barb
>>47149226
Those where in later expansion packs.
The warhammerquest game just had a dwarf an elf a barbarian and a wizard initially. This reboot is starting off already more diverse and less generic.
>>47149283
>This reboot is starting off already more diverse and less generic
Because it have priest of dindunuffin?
>>47149222
Not really no Its very dnd cleric (or warhammer warrior priest)
The paladin is the stormcaste
>>47149283
kk. Never played the old WHQ so I dunno shit about the details of that game. But if they'll release more heroes for this one there'll hopefully be some interesting dudes.
>>47149283
To be fair, it's still only grabbing from pre-existing WHQ heroes.
Sigmarine is probably going to act like the Chaos Warrior or Bretonnian Knight
Dank Elf will likely be similar to the Wardancer
High Elf's just a wizard
Priest/Slayer are straight from WHQ
Honestly it's the deathrunner that has me curious. Is he a hero, or just a special minion.
>>47149274
>base game just had the elf, dwarf, wizard and barb
This guy is right.
>>47149304
The starting elf is a darkie?
>>47148778
The starting box only having tzeentch chaos enemies seem a little meh.
>>47149324
>Barbarian
>WS 3
>>47149356
Tzeentch and skaven.
>>47149356
It is called the silver tower.
>>47149344
look at >>47148789
you have naked elf and wizard elf
>>47149356
Tzeentch has basically no mortal/beastman models. It's a bit of a welcome change from more nurgle/khorne, even though I play khorne.
>>47149490
Those White Dwarf pics show birdmen, skaven (both types of Beastmen?) and cultists.
>>47148813
The sculpt itself does not have negroid features it was painted that way because the GW Corporate art director demanded more deversity.
>>47148877
Boardgames are booming right now. Orginal WHQ sets sell for $200 USD or more. I pieced one together sans box for about $150
>>47148990
I have, I think that Stormarine looks pretty swagger. >>47148789
>>47149217
My french is kinda rusty, but here goes
>Every legend has its heroes, and WHQ Silver Tower gives you the choice between six champions, from the stern dwarf to the inscrutable wizard, passing through the chaos lord and the noble priest of Sigmar. All willing to triumph over the Silver Tower
>>47149217
resolution from the other two pics is not that good, lots of words are too blurred
>>47149624
he still needs a headswap and the giant-ass runes on the parchment filled in
>>47149655
I guess the barbarian is going to be a chaos lord in this, then.
>>47149675
>he still needs a headswap
But I like masks.
>>47149693
fuck off you don't know what you like
>>47148789
>this fucking CAD dwarf
>this bland as shit sigmarine
I'm not normally one for board games, but this i am very, very tempted by. Have we had any word on price yet?
>>47149735
a smart ballpark would be the price of Overkill
>>47149748
What is street price on Deathwatch: Overkill? MSRP is $165 USD
>>47149735
It's a nice change of pace from full battles, actually, and you still get to play with minis.
90's WHQ was lots of fun to play, hope they polished the rules and improved the narrative.
>>47149217
>>47148783
From the fiery lands of Aqshy to the towers of Azyrheim, the legend of the Silver Tower and its mysterious master, the Gaunt Summoner, is told. It tells of a nightmarish realm, but also that the hero that triumphs over the king-sorcerer of that cursed place and his tests will see all his wishes fulfilled. Thus, champions gathered from the four winds will brave the nightmarish horrors of the Silver Tower, in order to win the [can't read, something like "spoils"] of the Gaunt Summoner.
In Warhammer Quest Silver Tower, you and up to three of your friends take the role of champions exploring the Silver Tower. Some search fortune and glory, others want to kill the Gaunt Summoner. Warhammer Quest Silver Tower is complete boxed game, with 13 double-sided board tiles, a 40-page manual, a 40-page adventure book, cards, tokens, dice, and 51 strikingly beautiful Citadel miniatures, representing the inhabitants of the Silver Tower, and the heros who venture therein.
[Text in red box is illegible, the title is "what haunts the Silver Tower?"]
>>47148789
Every legend has its heroes, and Warhammer Quest Silver Tower offers a choice between six champions, from a taciturn Duradin to an unfathomable Aelf Mage, passing through the Chaos Lord and the noble Priest of Sigmar. All want to triumph over the Silver Tower...
Fyreslay[er]
Renouncing ...
to their [native?] homestead ...
lended a ...
[depends on context, could mean "conducts" or "leads to"] ...
...[?] the [reasons] ...
is it a rit[ual] ...
of a Runes[???]
father. Certain ...
of a homestead ...
the last [ser?] ...
once ...
the others ...
right to the ...
what terrbile [something] ...
the dange[rs] ...
Dar[k aelf?]
It is [spoken of] ...
but in ...
[Tenebra...]
... [end of a word]
that he/it ...
like ...
the other ...
in clouds ...
such is ...
truly ...
... [end of a word] ...
[either naked (female plural), or end of a word]?
battle
is this ...
for ...
same ...
reason[s/able] ...
<cont>
>>47149945
>[either naked (female plural), or end of a word]?
Nues can also mean heavens, or skies.
>>47149945
>and 51 strikingly beautiful Citadel miniatures
MY TZEENTCH BONER.
>>47149811
GW stuff usually sticks pretty close to MSRP. The board games are pricy, but you do get a lot of plastic in them.
>>47149103
You have no idea how roleplaying works.
You don't start with intricately designed heroes with grand backstories.
You start with blank slates and develop them over time.
>>47149217
>>47149945
>>47148805
Tzaangors
The Tzaangors are ancient beastmen, devoted to Tzeentch, that the architect of change has remodelled more to his taste, replacing their snouts with a beak, and endowing their rough skin with shimmering feathers, ruffling their necks with tentacles, similar to those of the Horrors. Under they birdlike appearance and their armor of surprising quality for beastmen, the Tzaangors haunt the cursed halls of the Silver Tower to flush out the heroes and the weaker occupants of the Gaunt Summoner's realm, eager to satisfy their violent impulses. They close on their prey in a flood of beaks and blades.
... Deathrunner
... [rodents?} of the Silver tower do not
... by the will of their [master]
... [?]. It's by the command of
... [Death]runner has come to the Silver [Tower]
... [to accomplish] an assassination, without
... [?] who is the target of
... []. Except the blade and the
... [Deathr]unner magic madness
... [disa/a]ppear in two
... its illusory twin
... that the Deathrunner
... faints as soon as one
... exposing the attacker
... the real assassin
[kind of hard to explain with a direct translation - it sounds like this guy can make a shadow clone of himself, and only when the enemy exposes himself by killing the clone will the real assassin appear and take advantage]
Kairic Acolytes
Corrupted in body and soul by their fanatic devotion to Tzeentch and the Gaunt Summoner, the Kairic Acolytes are the warrior-sorcerers invigorated by a killer zeal. They are all accomplished spellcasters, capable of blasting the intruders mad enough to risk themselves in the Silver Tower with magical discharges as well as slitting their throats. Their masters are the Kairic Adepts, (top left), the most capable among them, but despite their unfailing loyalty, they are, for the Gaunt Summoner, nothing more than sacrificial pawns in his intrigues.
<personal comment cont.>
>>47149994
I just bought lost patrol for $45 shipped in USA. MSRP on GW site is $105 wtf
>>47150171
As a native-level French speaker, living in a non-French-speaking country, who still prefers to consume English content in the origin language, the French in all of this is stilted AF. It's like they took the English text, passed it Google Translate with the "flowery words" checkbox on, then let a fourth-grader made sure it works on the most basic of language levels. Stuff like there are non-French idioms and expressions that are translated directly from English.
If this is the level of translation that GW has for the actual products (and not just in WD), my god they give 0 fucks.
>>47149945
>>47150171
Thank you French Anon!
>>47150211
GW only wants you to buy moar! This is the problem of Publiclly traded corporations in niche markets.
>>47149324
> More than triple WS is 6+ to hit
This needs to come back into other GW rules.
What do we know about the silver tower? It was a unit in Epic that's all I remember.
>>47149981
I assumed it's either the end of a word, or it refers to how Witch Elves fight with almost no armor.
Think you can do a better job, translate it yourself, buddy.
>>47150263
It has a constantly changing crystal Labrynith
I'd like to see the orginal gate way doors return but this looks like just tiles. They painted up nice and easy.
>>47150260
I'm seeing some pink horrors, smaller blue horrors like the fluff, and even smaller swarms of ... Yellow horrors? Maybe they're just little fire sprites or something but the idea of a further split into swarms of smaller beings is sweet.
>>47149756
Silver towers are a tzeentch thing. Like khorne and his skulls or nurgle and flys.
>>47150395
Horrors in this game don't die. They split in two. So pink - into two blues, blue - into to yellow. But at first when i see dat yellow horror on art i thought dat it was purified by priest common pink horror.
>>47150292
I could but I honestly can't be arsed to translate AoS shit.
Mfw GW kills off the old world and WHQ will have no halfling thiefs, witch hunters or Bretonnian Knights.
>>47150395
tzeentchlings would be pretty funky
>Trusting anything from GW's bottom of the bin game designers
Just play Descent or another mechanically superior dungeon crawler
>>47148778
Well I'll be buying this to add to my tzeentch army then. Holy shit I want to see what the prince looks like
>>47150625
Descent requires An overlord/DM player I thought?
>>47150668
It does.
However they've just or are about to release a phone app that acts as the overlord (so i hear)
>>47150668
It does
As >>47150685 said it will be possible to go without it
Other dungeon crawl board games like Dungeon Saga don't require an overlord either
>>47150698
Kingdom Death
Myth
Journey
etc etc etc
>>47148877
>>47148910
Believe it or not! Some people enjoy hanging out in meat space!
Are there pictures of the Daemon Prince at all?
>>47150609
This. In an age where gritty down to earth stuff like Game of Thrones and The Witcher get popular, they have to throw all that stuff out to pander to the World of Warcraft audience.
>>47150742
My favorite game to play is 2.5D tile based RPG lite games with miniatures and a Dungeon Master. I've been running an Indy game called Trapdoor using Warhammer FRPG orginal setting.
>>47150747
Theres no daemon prince, BolS is just sht at making up rumors. The endboss is the gaunt summoner.
>>47150775
Oh well. I still want to see an actual Daemon Prince of Tzeentch model, as there are multiple official sculpts of Khorne and Nurgle princes.
>>47150775
We will know for sure in 13 days.
>>47148813
Are you 12?
>>47150809
We know now.
We have pictures of the contents.
>>47148783
>>47150740
Sexy minis. I've never been a fan of moonface tho. It's one of those "Why would you do that?" kind of deals for me.
>>47150828
Looks like there is a giant monster to the right of black Sigmar priest.
>>47150862
it's the big minotaur looking dude on the cover
>>47150862
Not him but its not "giant". Its only the same size as the stormcast. I'd be pretty suprised f that was the prince, because if it is its not even as big as the default plastic one.
>>47150892
More likely to be a Tzeentchian minotaur or something similar. Maybe a Tzeentch take on that monster that was included in the starter set?
>>47149217
>>47149945
>>47150171
>>47150211
>>47150740
[G]aunt Summ[oner]
The terrible master of the Silver Tower is
... -king deamon with occult powers
... phenomenal. The Gaunt Summoner is such
... god in his infernal realm, because he
... remodel the impossible topography
... Silver Tower at the will of his whims
... invoking or transporting
... monsters and heros from different
... to make them confront eachother in
... [cr]uel and unecessary [battles]. However, despite
... [div]ersity, the Gaunt Summoner is
... fair player, even if it is to his
... following his skewed principals. If a
... [endeavors] to surmount the challenges
... [Gaunt] Summoner, the latter will grant a
... wishes, and there are very few things indeed
... [sini]ster lord-sorcerer cannot
... [? .] But rare are the adventurers that
... [?], and most are trapped by
... the topology of the Silver Tower,
... toys to its tennant.
[Famili]ars
... of magic
... Familiars have no
... master that the
... itself, and
... are nuisances
... [?]. The imperious
... [fills] the ears
... with its
>>47150813
More likely he spends time on /b/
>>47150923
>[div]ersity,
Just realized that the half-word could also be "diversion", as in - the Gaunt Summoner only sees this as a game
>>47150921
Dude's got a big magical staff, though.
>>47150775
May not be a Daemon Prince, but fits that role.
>>47151027
That isn't a daemon prince?
>>47151036
You know this how?
existing Tzeentch minis
>>47151042
I didn't say I know. I am asking. Looks pretty Daemon Prince like to me. I am no chaos expert though.
>>47151036
Well Tzeentch, being the essence of Chaos has the power to make his favored champios whatever he well damn pleases.
Vulture guy Daemon Princes and mushroom flamers and goofy horrors are just clichés that I wish had died a quarter century back.
Get creative. Tzeentchy things have no unique set form.
For anyone interested, Gamezone Miniatures is doing a re-release on Hero Quest, the original game from 1989.
>>47151054
The fairer comparison for the sorcerer would be the existing Gaunt Summoner.
>>47151092
Is that ever going to come out?
>>47151092
Yeah I totally trust them to release that. That project is so plagued with shadiness I don't know if I would buy it in person.
>>47151112
>>47151123
Seems legit.
>>47151138
What store is that sold at?
>>47151066
No, it's a Tzeentch Minotaur
>>47150763
That is a great point. There was something cartoony about all GWs recent stuff and I couldn't quite put my finger on it. I thought they were just trying to emulate warmachine. Its that same WOW style early 2000s.
It is funny how that more standard low fantasy stuff has gotten super popular lately as well and GW seems behind the power curve.
>>47151173
Still, Gamezone miniatures up for pre-order as it seems. Don't know about the progress, just know they are getting it out there at some point.
Have ordered from these guys before, when wanting some good´ol fashioned grimdark models for my Mordheim team, when GW´s latest and greatest turned too cartoony for my taste, and the old sculpts simply didn't do it for me. Great quality overall.
>>47151180
>>47150945
Thats pretty meta
>>47148789
Sigmarine actually looks okay, with a headswap he'd probobly be a good model
Fyreslayer is a Fyreslayer
Barbarian just looks silly
Warrior priest is fantastic
Other two things are visual vomit
>>47148805
Cultists look good, tzaangors are visual vomit, skaven is weirdly naked without fur?
>>47150740
Much better than the one on the disk, has a lot more life to him. Familars are fucking goat.
Overall it seems to oscillate between good models and shitty over designed ones, as has the res of aos
>>47151027
This could be any number of things as it's design is just "a big chaos bloke"
Well I guess this means no halfling thief.
>>47152541
That''s an oddly short nigger.
>>47152464
Agree on most points. The parrot beastman look awkward af. I guess blue works with the tzeentch scheme but just looks off on beastmen, they look more beastly and savage in brown/black fur and humanoid skin.
The Cultists are a bit too spare (and fit) imo, would've liked more robes and mutation/crippling handicaps.
Is the bird doggie supposed to belong to the Warrior Priest? They've never had pets, do they?
>>47148783
Those pink horrors seem to have gotten an upgrade over >>47151054, like champion horrors or something.
>>47154375
I'd like to see some better shots of the tzaangors. Themed beastmen are nifty to me.
>>47155053
They look like around a similar size to the exalted flamer from the chariot kit.
>>47148778
Adding sigmarines kills the game.
>>47151054
Those plastic horrors are such shiiiiiit!
>>47148789
We mother fucking Diablo III now.
>>47155272
Hey, that's actually pretty accurate comparison.
>>47155272
Yeah the whole Wierd Fantasy thing battling Chaos on planes of existence disregarding space and time. How are you going to go back to town and buy a new sword or potion?
>>47155224
Maybe these will be new ones? That pic is just what is currently available.
>>47155346
No towns in AoS or merchants just constant war my friend and designated shitting streets.
>>47155366
> designated shitting planes
>>47155366
Constant war requires constant logistics. Don't SigMarines need weapons, food, armor, repairs, Loos to poo in?
>>47155385
What if a toliet monster lives on the plane of shit?
>>47155432
Nope. They shit diamonds nigga.
>>47148850
Is this Magnus the Red?
>>47155467
That's Eldar, silly.
>>47155432
>Don't SigMarines need weapons, food, armor, repairs,
Nope, they are teleported onto the battlefield in full gear, fight until they fall, then their soul returns to the forge where they get remade.
>>47150850
'Cause he's gotta lynch that Warrior priest
>>47148778
>Fuck the Old World!
Fuck you dude!
I have old VC battalion (10 ghouls, 20 skelly and zombie) a necromancer and a banshee. Can i start this money pit?
>>47151196
>It is funny how that more standard low fantasy stuff has gotten super popular lately as well and GW seems behind the power curve
You mean GW is sticking too the same over the top style they've used the last 3 decades or so.
>>47156119
Warhammer Quest? Doubt it
Age of Sigmar? Yes
>>47156320
given the amount of fan content for warhammer quest, I'm pretty sure there's rules for fighting against a necromancer and his undead minions in a quest
I'm almost certain one of the expansions was about exactly that
>>47152480
kinda looks like a daemon prince. Might be that they decided on a simpler look since the game is already packing a lot of plastic in there. Gaunt summoner himself is a smoother simpler version of his AoS mini
>>47156107
>misses the joke in the title.
i didn't know people would loose their sense of humor so quickly.
But this is the internet, and this is /tg/ as well.it's still gonna suck, though
>>47152541
>>47149074
yall acting like you can't just pull a mini from the hundreds of existing fantasy game franchises and just homebrew a hero. Thats what I remember doing with my m8's when we played heroquest. Back when you could buy a $3-$5 GW blister at your flgs
>>47156725
>reminiscing
So, would it be possible to play this just one other person or does it have to be the max amount? I don't have any experience with warhammer quest anything, so I don't know if this is like an rpg thing, or just a board game.
>>47157063
>would it be possible to play this just one other person
Yes. You could even play it by yourself if you really wanted.
>>47155545
Wrong for the most part. That's like saying marines depend on deepstriking all the tie.
Stormcast need the Realmgates to move the bulk of their forces and when they arrive they conquer lands and use their Free Guilds/Free Folk allies to build fortification and settlements to secure the purged lands.
>>47149143
I kind of like them, need to get abetter look at them though.
>>47150211
Consider it's only a $4 magazine, doesn't really surprise me that they wouldn't go all out on it.
>>47150763
Fantasy the game was never like ASoIaF or even the Witcher.
>>47150850
I like it, the moonface was one of the things I liked about the newest Herald of Tzeentch GW put out.
>>47151054
GW unfortunately doesn't sell that Sorcerer anymore, which is a shame since it was a great model.
>>47154375
Gryph Hounds are loyal to Azyr and are known to ally themselves to those fighting for a just cause.
>>47159960
The moon face is on one of the older Chaos sorcerer dudes too.
Tempted to convert a disk to look like a hamburger and you the newer moon faced herald as an HQ in a vaporwave themed army.
>>47160575
Yeah, if I recall correctly they gave the Herald a possible moon face because of that older model.
>>47160677
Both 40k and Warhammer have been stealing from old material for some time already. Stuff that's been way back in the catalog and their earlier stuff has been seeping back in.
>>47161571
I imagine it's because those were aspects the sculptors found interesting and wanted to try their hand at with the technology available.
>>47159960
>Fantasy the game was never like ASoIaF or even the Witcher.
>pseudohistorical states and policy
>most of Old World is low fantasy setting.
Was interested in this game, then looked closer at the hero sculpts. They all look like shit.
The Stormcast dude is obviously there to kill the mad sorcerer.
But what about the others? They must be there to have one of their wishes granted.
The fyreslayer, barbarian, exile aelf, and highborn aelf. What are they going to wish for?And how will the sorcerer twist their wishes?
>>47149575
>sister in law finds out i play warhams
>says she has a box of warhams i can have
>freeminis.jpg!
>hands me warhammer quest
>unpunched
>all there
>sell it for $400 on ebay
>never tell sister in law about it.
>>47162281
You really do not know what low fantasy is huh ?
>>47162491
>hurr if it have a magic it couldn't be low fantasy
>>47156725
>yall
You really are a cunt aren't you?
>>47162511
At least you'll sleep less dumb tonight slav, glad I taught you something today.
:^)
>>47155272
Pretty fucking much, goddamn
>>47162564
Nice argumentation europoor.
>>47162491
>It's a semantics episode
People seem to confused by what "high" and "low" fantasy are, especially because they are such fucking worthless descriptors. There is no clear midpoint or hurdle to be crossed where low becomes high or visa versa, so using it especially in an attempt to qualify what is actually probably "mid" fantasy like warhammer or the witcher is a lost cause.
It is true that warhammer is grim and gritty and has a magic level actually lower than the witcher in most cases however, so I'm not sure if you're trying to argue that the witcher is massive thematic departure from warhammer because it honestly isn't.
>>47162281
>pseudohistorical states and policy
It takes a lot more than that to be the same as either setting.
ASoIaF especially is all about politics and intrigue which was largely missing from Fantasy outside of a few mentions here or there in recent years.
Sure Fantasy had the potential to be like them, but GW would likely never take it in such a direction because it was all about your dudes and two armies fighting for reason.
Also it's really hard to to quantify Warhammer as either low or high fantasy since it could be either by dint of being a setting composed of everything and the kitchen sink.
>>47149356
You're right, fantasy is dangerously short on Nurgle and Khorne minis you could use in the game. I'm sick of all the Tzeentch releases these days.
>>47162681
>ASoIaF especially is all about politics and intrigue
Yeah and that's why now in ASolaF all main characters related with some magicshit.
>Sure Fantasy had the potential to be like them, but GW would likely never take it in such a direction
Redshirt please, WHFRP 2 ed. is mostly focused on Witcher-tier of setting.
Also, for low fantasy more important how magic toned in setting.
>>47148789
Pretty happy with all this TBQF, will likely buy two copies.
>>47162783
shill harder
>>47162817
Um...I'll buy three?
>>47162838
I'll raise you.
I'll buy four!
>>47162854
Well played, Anon, well played.
My interpretation of the difference between High and Low Fantasy always comes down to how commonly accepted/used magic or other things that defy the natural order/physics are. If the nearest town has a shop you can buy spell components and magic items in and nobody bats an eye, chances are you're high. If most normal people don't even realize magic exists, and will likely never have any interaction with it, you're low. Monsters and such don't factor in unless they're actually magical. They're just part of the ecology and wouldn't be treated as out of the ordinary, just rare.
Basically, Conan is Low Fantasy, D&D is High Fantasy.
>>47162643
>mid fantasy
So here we are, shitting invented words ?
Sorry WHFB was clearly Hot-fantasy
>>47162681
>>47162643
I think it would be wise to have a scale with more granularity than a binary measurement of being "low" or "high"
Maybe a 1-5 scale
Tier 1 is everything is pretty much reasonable and mundane albeit in a fictional world. Magic and non hard sci fi elements are absent.Stuff like Mount and blade, The Road, that sort of thing
Tier 2 is still reasonable but with magic or !Notmagic on the edge of the setting in an esoteric and not readily apparent way. Things like Asoiaf, Thief, Conan.
Tier 3 is when magic or equivalent is known by all to exist and touches and colors the setting in it's entirety however the setting apart from this is still just people being people. People still farm crops in a mundane way and still go about their mundane business but they know over in the town is a mage tower and in the forest are some evil skeletons. Pretty much standard fantasy. Witcher, WHF, A good portion of DND worlds, LOTR, Black Company, TES, Vanilla World of warcraft, ect ect.
Tier 4 is even when the mundane is colored by the fantastic nature of the setting, where everywhere you turn something or someone is magical in nature, BUT the world still operates in a manner similar to our own at the end of the day albeit with magic. The trains and the farms might be magic but they are still trains and farms. People still die if swords hit them.This is where armor and other combat gear starts caring more about style than being functional. Whether this or tier 3 is the break point of being high fantasy is usually the source of these squabbles.Examples include Dark souls, Ebberon, most fantasy animes, Star wars, Post Vanilla World of warcraft and Warmachine.
Tier 5 is Rule of cool tier. No attempt and mundanity is attempted. Everything is fantasy at all times. Age of sigmar, Heavy metal, ODing on psychedelics, ect.
>>47162898
This is the true definition..
But Wizards, dragons, zombies, corpse constructs, ghosts, skavens, fucking ents and demons are part of average joe everyday life in WHFB.
Tell me how this isn't high fantasy. The mere presence of an elf or skaven makes it high fantasy
>>47162901
The reason it was in quotes was because it's not a term that is used, I was pointing out the uselessness of attempting to argue about a thing that is roughly center field being "low" or "high"
>>47162920
Tier system you just pulled out of your ass isn't a valid argument for anything.
>>47162931
>monsters and such won't factor in
They're part of the ecology. Elves are just another race, like the Orcs are basically the scary mongol black people.
Besides, actual Wizards wizarding are pretty rare, at least in theory - We see the wizards and the magical items all the time because that's the part of the world that we, the viewers, are interested in and want to hear more about.
80% of the population can't cast spells and will never use a magical piece of gear,even if they're fighting against goblins and other monsters. Hell, Mordheim is all about having maybe 1 wizard in a band of a dozen adventurers, and that's a game that explicitly deals with adventurers and treasure seekers that don't give a shit about the bans on magic.
>>47162931
>average joe everyday life in WHF
What. No. Wizards are viewed with suspicion and distrust by most people. Dragons are considered myth by many. The undead are something only encountered in a few specific places in the world or at specific points in it's history. Most people don't believe skaven exist. Ents are rare as fuck and are probably only believed in by brettonian peasants in a legendary sense. Daemons are near nonexistent outside of the realm of chaos save in the occasional incursions from that place, and knowledge of many of the aforementioned topics is controlled/violently suppressed.
For the average joe fantasy is just 16th century Europe and any encounter with magic they happen to have is likely going to be the only one they ever have or from a comfortable distance.
>>47162958
It's not an argument about the topic you mong. It's a suggested solution to the fact that I see this retarded "is it low is it high" argument at least once a week.
>>47162920
Warmachine I'd possibly argue is more 3 than 4. It's my understand that magic is mostly just used for fighting.
>>47163010
You do know that Beastmen outnumber the humans in the Empire lands many time over, right? Beastmen being Chaos mutants.
You can't go off road too much in the Empire without being attacked by them.
>>47163037
Beastmen aren't magic. They're just particularly ugly barbarians.
Elfs dwarves goblins ect are just weird looking people and are as about as significant as the redrawn geography to how "high" fantasy something is.
And mutants and beastmen besides are creatures half shrouded in myth to most citizens save those living in settlements deep in the woods.
>>47163037
(picture related).
The "average joe fantasy" has a high chance of being raped,shat on, killed, and eaten (not necessarily in that order) by a mutant that has pure magical evil running through his blood.
>>47163114
>>And mutants and beastmen besides are creatures half shrouded in myth to most citizens save those living in settlements deep in the woods.
Most of the Empire is woods
>>47163133
Forgot my picture.
>>47163114
See my picture. You are talking shiz.
Beastman are very magical. The very earth and the forest around them withers and rots from their unholy presence.
>>47163148
And most any human settlement clears or manages all woods in a good few mile radius just like in the real world?
The point remains, magic is not a thing most humans will encounter in their life time without it killing them. No one is going to walk into town and buy some magic potions from the town magic shop. No one is going to be buying spells of protection from their towns local mage.
>>47163150
Other than Morgor Shadowgave or whatever his name is that's not typical. Most are just ugly goats with axes.
>>47163175
>And most any human settlement clears or manages all woods in a good few mile radius just like in the real world?
Actually, they have to garrison every town and village in the empire or else risk a beastman attack. They are in a state of near-permanent siege. Going into the woods would just provoke the beastmen.
>>47163010
Did you read the Von Carstein saga ? if yes you'll know ghost, zombies, corpse constructs and shit are pretty much very widespread in the empire.
>>47163175
OK you are literally trolling now, please go take ANY WHFB books or armybook related to the empire (which are not even 5% of overall old world population and as such doesn't qualify for any representation of the setting being low or high fantasy)
WHFB is high fantasy, just deal with it
>>47155489
ye... no
>>47163206
There is at least one mention that comes to mind of perfectly safe managed woodland in a warhammer novel being contrasted with the beastmen infested shithole of an insignificant town being attacked by beastmen while the citizens shit their pants because it's the only encounter any of them except the protagonists and a handful of rangers who had been encountering easement in the preceding month had ever had with chaos.
>>47163218
>certain points in history
Before and after carstein tried to take the empire the undead were back to being a minor and uncommon threat. The point being argued is
>is your average city dweller or peasant likely to a live a life in the warhammer world markedly different from that of a 16th century european with different proper nouns
and the answer is usually no
>>47163242
I literally don't even know what you're saying in the first sentence.
I'm going to guess what you were trying to say "please go take ANY WHFB books or armybook related to the empire [ and read them in because I think they disagree with your point]
I've already read quite a few. Other than the protagonists who the stories focus on the level of fantasy encountered by the characters is usually minimal. A Chaos cultist who's only encounters with anything magic were knowing the name of slannesh, and having his rune appear on his chest because he'd been huffing warpstone. Some innkeepers who just sort of generally know that some chaos altar exists in the woods somewhere maybe. Thats the level of intimacy post people in the setting have with magic.
>>47150051
Yes, thank you for clarification. This comment was done in response to someone claiming the new heroes were bland compared to the old ones, so thank you for clarifying the old ones were bland as hell.
I do agree with your point though, simple archetypes let you build from them and once you know the game inside out you can still homebrew more colorful classes.
>>47150609
>>47150763
Except Witch Hunters are still very much a thing
>>47163534
>Witch Hunters
Aren't they called "Sorcerwoman Killstalkers" now?
>>47163534
hrmn. are they better with the pistol and greatsword or the rapier and double pistols?
>>47163621
Wow, what a completely original dig that no one has made before. Good one, anon. Why don't you post it on your facebook. I'll be sure to like it.
>>47163654
I'm sorry."Sorcelwomyn Kyllstalkers" fits way better.
>>47163621
>>47163714
their new in-fluff name in AoS is the Witch Hunters of the Order of Azyr.
>>47163421
I think slave was arguing the fact that your whole argumentation is "b-but the empire civilian don't encounter magic" yet Empire isn't even 5% of teh whole Warhammerworld. And literraly the other 95% if full of everest mount sized shaggot, elfs, krakens, undeads legions, dwarf with runic weapons and armors everywhere etc.
The skaven alone outnumber humans 30:1, Adn then there is the undead etc.
it's like saying Starwars is not scify since I know an indigenous human group hunting with bows and arrows totally normal animals, never in contact with anything but standard wildlife, when the setting revolves around "100 quadrillions beings".
So I just noticed:
1) GW made a new sub division for specialist games
2) Said sub division tosses out that Assassin board game, Space Hulk, the Imperial Knight thingy and the Genestealer cult stuff
3) Now said sub division tries their hand at a fantasy game
Does that mean, if we buy this thing and show them that people indeed want revamps of their old Fantasy specialist stuff, they might give us an official Mordheim: Age of Sigmar?
>>47163654
Remember that you can use all of your missiles weapons even in close combat. so this should answer your question.
>>47163874
As far as I'm aware the Specialist Games division had no hand in the Assassin game, Deathwatch, or even this game. The only confirmed ones are Betrayal at Calth and Bloodbowl.
The Imperial Knight game is based on a minigame that was included in an issue of WD around the time the Tau Stormsurge was released.
Suppose it's possibly the Specialist Design Studio (Which is part of the FW Design Studio and not the GW one) could work on something akin to Mordheim, but from recent reports they're working on reinvention of Epic and if Bloodbowl does well will probably set to work on creating more teams for it.
They do seem to be going off of sales though, if the new iteration of Bloodbowl doesn't sell well enough they weren't going to bother with it anymore from the sound of things. Will probably find out more next weekend since the Design Team is supposed to be at Warhammer Fest.
>>47163877
That one additional shot every two melee phases is not worth giving up +1 to wound and rend.
Now, if you can keep the guy well protected behind some screening troops and have him blast away at things that proc Sigmar's Judgement it'd be another matter.
>>47163877
Not really. One load-out gives him two shots and three strikes. The other gives him one shot and three strikes, though these strikes have better rend. You're exchanging a shot for better armor piercing in melee.
However, Witch Hunters are better against Wizards and Daemons.
This means that their main targets are Chaos Daemons, Seraphon and Wizards.
Squishy Wizards have a 5+ save so you don't really need extra Rend for them, Seraphon ignore -1 Rend so it's better to use the two shots against them and Chaos Daemons by and large have bad saves also.
So yeah, the two-shot variant is probably better after all.
>>47163874
>Mordheim: Age of Sigmar
For what it's worth, they still sell the End Times books. If they can release a 30k game, I'm sure they can also release a game set in pre-AoS times. It would be a great excuse to use some of the model designs that never made it to production.
>>47163534
>are still very much a thing
Nope, even IG more important.
>>47163874
>Mordheim: Age of Sigmar
This combination of words has me both extremely excited, and extremely scared.
So, ogre mage, anyone?
>>47164216
Hurry.
Someone get a French guy to translate this. WE will settle on a Canadian or Belgium guy, just get it translated.
>>47164216
Fits better than the other suggestions at least
>Minotaur mirite
>>47164229
French fag here, will only extract the important bit :
He is the boss of the tower, commanding all servants of tzeentch within the tower.
The rest of the text is fantasy jerk off about awesome super flames of super tzeentch being super magical, and the ogre boss being so strong and with a massive 48" dick, fighting in endless super battle.
>>47164263
>He is the boss of the tower, commanding all servants of tzeentch within the tower.
If he is the boss, then what does that make the Gaunt Summoner?
anyways, Thanks.
>>47164229
I can speak french marginally.
Says he's a master of rituals who comes out when people piss off the silver tower. Sounds like he's equally good in combat as magic as it says" he charges into the fray head lowered like a insane berzerker before unleashing gouts of tzeentchs multicoloured supernatural fire" or something to that effect.
He directs the cultists and directs rituals equally well as he performs in combat.
The snots are deminutive slaves "remodeled by their existence in the corners of the silver tower. They live in the palatial(?) labyrinthe of the grand summoner and use poinsons and nets to help him catch impudent foes." the rest is a bit lost on me cause my vocad is shit. But basically guys who rest better watch out and they're good in numbers.
>>47164263
>>47164258
>>47164229
>>47164216
This, French-fag here, most of the text is GW jerking off, 1 line is about that Ogor being the Boss
>>47164282
It's the "boss" as in leading the troops, he is still under the summoner's command.
>>47164284
>The snots are deminutive slaves "remodeled by their existence in the corners of the silver tower.
Chaos greenskinz confirmed.
>>47164300
>>47164300
If you look closely they have 6 limbs. 4 legs 2 arms.
So yea pretty much.
Thanks French dudes.
LAdy atia have all the pics on her website , the dark elf is indeed a guy but not a wych, it's a "myth" <- lol
But elf mage is a girl.
>>47164349
>the dark elf is indeed a guy but not a wych
You would still hit it, though. Amirite?
>>47164472
From my limited understanding,his is basically how the SE is sent by Siggy to beat the silver tower and recover powerful artifacts, having legendary skills om par with the greatest champions.
>>47164497
What's wrong with their feet? They look red and swollen.
>>47164216
The big guy is pretty cool, but those multi-limbed chaos goblins are weird.
>>47164521
That's the point of them, they should not make sense, their bodies adapted to a Wizard tower that change every minute.
>>47164306
At first I thought it was two goblins trying to be a pantomime horse.
Frenchfag from before here (>>47149945 >>47150171 >>47150211 >>47150923).
Getting to work for all you folks who want the actual fluff and not just the cliffs notes version.
This... will take a momentAnd it's less fun when there's no guessing or decyphering and the text is all clear. That shit reminded me of the fun homework in the first week of the cryptography course. Boo!
Only 2 Nightrunners in the box? Damn. Here I was hoping I could finally include some Gutter Runners in my skaven army.
>>47164488
Brimstone horrors are basically animated warpfire given a limited consciousness - something something. Blue and pink are the usual guys, manifestations of magic given life, gibbering, capering and laughing maniacally. Kill a pink, two blue pops up.
>>47164374
It's a scantily-clad elf. What do you fucking think?
>>47164598
K, working in page order:
>>47164472
Top part I already translated in >>47149945
Knight-Questor
Each Stormcast Eternal was, during his mortal life, a valiant hero, before being transformed into an instrument of the will of Sigmar, clad in shining Sigmarite and gifted the power of the skies. The Knight-Questors are distinguished from these champions by the legendary nature of their exploits, and it falls to them to fulfill the most dangerous quests that can be found in the mortal realms. The God-king personally entrusts them with the task of taking down the most terrible enemies or recover the most powerful artifacts, and it is such a mission that brings the Knight-Questor to the dungeons of the Silver Tower.
>>47164349
Fyreslayer Doomseeker
Renouncing their brotherly [familial?] ties and their natural homestead, the Doomseekers take an unbreakable oath that drives them to a solitary life. A Fyreslayer does not reveal the reasons of oath-taking: perhaps it is an initiation rite, or the destiny of a Runeson that will not inherit his father. Some of them are survivors of a disappeared homestead, fulfilling the last wishes of their deceased brothers. Some return to their homesteads as heores once their quest is complete, others roam the Mortal Realms until their death. Only the Doomseeker knows what terrible oath has driven him to defy the dangers of the Silver Tower.
Tenebrael Shard
While often spoken of in shaded corners, almost nothing is known of the Tenebrael Shard, some even considering it a myth. It is said he can walk between the shadows like a man walks from one room to another, further that he can turn into a cloud of living darkness, playing like smoke between enemy weapons. Can he really break a sword's blade with his bare hands? Can he stop a heart with one glacial stare? None know, save the Tenebrael Shard. Like all regarding this unequalled killer, one can only speculate as to the reasons that have driven him to the Silver Tower.
<cont.>
>>47164608
I thought there were gonna be about 10 other skaven mooks, too?
>>47155489
It is - that's an Epic scale model, though
>>47164598
>>47164765
>>47164349 cont.
Darkoath Chieftain
The heroes that risk themselves in the impossible maze of the Silver Tower are not all pure-intentioned paragons of nobility and virtue. Pitiless and brutal, the Darkoath Chieftain is a warrior who seeks the favor of the Chaos gods, crushing the weak and the craven to better himself on the path to glory. The Darkoath Chieftain has vanquished a myriad of rivals, monsterous beasts of the Mortal Realms and heroes of Order. Currently, he wishes to test himself at the demented maze of the Silver Tower, and is ready to risk his life and soul to tear his reward from the maleficent master of this place.
>>47164371
Mistweaver Saih
A riddle wrapped in a mystery covered by an illusion, such is the Mistweaver Saih, of none know anything. Some claim she comes from Ulgu of the haunted shadows, without presenting any proof. Who does she serve? Who are her allies? Who are her enemies? What brings her to the Silver Tower? The only certainty of those that fight alongside the Mistweaver Saih is that this enigmatic aelf is an enchanter of the highest order, magical lightening disappearing any who provoke her ire. She confounds and blinds her enemies by way of illusions displaying their hidden desires, sowing paranoia and discord, pushing her adversaries to tear themselves apart, finally turning on their own selves, while she floats peacefully on a cloud of mystical haze.
<cont.>
>>47164371
Mysterious aelf (female), probably coming from Uglu. Nobody knows jack shit about her. She uses tricks and lightning. Basically an Eldar.
The warpriest bears the word of the God-kind. Sigmar's light allows him to heal allies or wound ennemies. He has come to kill the Gaunt Summoner
IMPORTANT RED NOTE : its says that there's a way to include more adventurers in WQ: silver tower
>>47164598
>>47164765
>>47164873
>>47164371 cont.
Excelsior Warpriest
A simple mortal, bringing the light of Sigmar to the darkest of places, the Excelsior Warpriest has the courage of a true hero. Both powerful warrior and ardent orator, the Excelsior Warpriest spreads the word of the God-king across the Mortal Realms, applying his flaming sermons with his scared war hammer. His light of Sigmar allows him to heal his allies or incinerate the vile manifestations of Chaos, and he can trust the presence of his Gryph-hound, a loyal and ferocious companion, who can as a final resort give its life to save that of its master. If the Warpriest has traversed the Mortal Realms to reach the Silver Tower, it is for a simple reason: far from searching the favor of the Gaunt Summoner, he has come to kill him in the name of Sigmar.
[Uncountable champions]
These six heroes are the architypes of their kind, come from all the Mortal Realms to defy the Gaunt Summoner and his infernal dwelling. But, they are far from being the only ones to brave the Silver tower. Go [to] page 30 to know more on how to include more heroes in your adventures of Warhammer Quest Silver Tower!
<cont>
>>47164598
>>47164765
>>47164873
>>47164970
>>47164477
Gaunt Summoner
The terrible master of the Silver Tower is a king damon with phenomenal occult powers. The Gaunt Summoner is akin to a god in his infernal realm, because he can remodel the impossible topographyof the Silver Tower at the will of his various whims, invoking or transporting monsters and heros from different realms to make them confront eachother in cruel and unecessary games. However, despite his perversity, the Gaunt Summoner is quite a fair player, even if it is in his way, and following his skewed principals. If a hero succeeds in surmounting the challenges
of the Gaunt Summoner, the latter will grant one of their wishes, and there are very few things indeed that the sinister lord-sorcerer cannot make real. But rare are the adventurers that succeed in this, and most are trapped forever by the topology of the Silver Tower, serving as toys to its tennant.
Familiars
Incarnations of pure magic, the Familiars have no other master than the Silver Tower itself, and are as much nuisances as they are helpful. The imperious Tweak (1) fills the ears with its grandiose plans, for it thinks itself a Lord of Change. The kleptomanic Pug (2) is always looking to nick all that is shiny. As for Blot (3), it may contain all of the secrets of creation, but it is indecipherable. And Slop (4) the nauseating is a fish-thing, that can be smelt coming from far away.D'awww thems so cute!
<cont.>
>>47164970
>Go [to] page 30 to know more on how to include more heroes in your adventures of Warhammer Quest Silver Tower!
Anyone got page 30? I'm all about extra PCs.
Excelsior Warpriest is the first black guy in history of GW? GW should make many kind of human, we are in 2016, after Barbie and Infinity miniatures GW discover there are many different people
>>47164873
>The heroes that risk themselves in the impossible maze of the Silver Tower are not all pure-intentioned paragons of nobility and virtue. Pitiless and brutal, the Darkoath Chieftain is a warrior who seeks the favor of the Chaos gods, crushing the weak and the craven to better himself on the path to glory. The Darkoath Chieftain has vanquished a myriad of rivals, monsterous beasts of the Mortal Realms and heroes of Order. Currently, he wishes to test himself at the demented maze of the Silver Tower, and is ready to risk his life and soul to tear his reward from the maleficent master of this place.
He is a Chaos champ? Then why would the other adventurers fight beside him? Especially the Order guys.
>>47165068
It's AoS, who give a fuck ?
>>47165038
BL series about the adventures of Tweak, Pug, Blot, and Slop when?
