I HEAR THE WARP! THE GODS CALLS TO ME! HELP ME ASNWER THE CALL BROTHERS!
1d100 for Renegade Chapter or Legion warband!
Legion pls
dice+1d100
Rolled 40 (1d100)
>>47104006
>>47105338
Woops, meant a D10 but we will run that as a 4. So we are a renegade chapter
D100 for why we fell
Rolled 93 (1d100)
>>47105405
well shit I'm dumb
Rolled 18 (1d100)
>>47105384
>>47105420
Near the brink of annihilation, the Marines took an extremely cowardly or horrible action to preserve their Chapter, and were excommunicated for this.
cool I've never gotten that one!
d100 for our progenitor!
Rolled 34 (1d100)
>>47105481
Rolled 29 (1d100)
>>47105481
>>47105535
One re-roll so we don't have to be related to the smurfs(if same result again tho we will take it)
so 1d100 for progenitor
Rolled 77 (1d100)
>>47105631
Rolled 33 (1d100)
>>47105631
>>47105672
Ah the Imperial fists, cool
1d10 for warband beliefs, crossed fingers for loathed or neutral
Rolled 96 (1d100)
>>47105709
Rolled 9 (1d10)
>>47105709
>>47105742
d10 ya fool
>>47105777
My bad.
Take this guy's roll then>>47105765
>>47105765
ugh great fanatic... I kinda wanna re-roll but we already spurned the dice gods once... I'm just sick of deity driven warbands so once more, see if we can at least get neutral.
This will be our last re-roll simply because every Warband I've seen in the last like 30 threads has been fanatic
1d10 for our belief in the ruinous powers
Rolled 3 (1d10)
>>47105803
>>47105819
Neutral. The warband believes Chaos to be more of a tool than something to be worshipped, serving the dark Gods when it benefits them.
alright good
d12 for which god or gods we occasionally seek the aid of/use their relics and powers more
Rolled 5 (1d12)
>>47105833
Here's hoping for Tzeentch!
>>47105857
Well we got a 5 for Slaanesh... luckily we are neutral sowe don't eat babies and all that grimderp shit
I'll say no re-roll unless you in the thread want to, lest we call the wrath of the dice gods
d100 for what form our beleifs take
Rolled 64 (1d100)
>>47105877
Balls. Welp, guess I'll get the power dildos...
>>47105900
Well we got Daemonhood that... really does not make a whole lotta sense for a neutral Warband, so thats a re-roll so shit does not get weirdly contradictory
Also we are only neutral my fried, no power dildos here... and again, if the thread is sick of seeing slaanesh warbands we can re-roll
regardless d100 for what form our beliefs take
Rolled 74 (1d100)
>>47105930
>>47105938
Power demands Sacrifice - The Marines of this force understand that in order to gain you must first give something in return. They're willing to sacrifice anything to advance themselves, even their lives or the lives of others.
See now that makes sense.
d10 for our demeanour
Rolled 1 (1d10)
>>47105954
Rolled 9 (1d10)
>>47105954
>>47105968
Exploit and Conquer. The Warband views all others as mere pawns, assisting them when it helps their own goals and tossing them aside once they are no longer needed. These Marines are selfish and untrustworthy.
Well that synergizes very well!
d10 for our common mutations
Rolled 8 (1d10)
>>47106000
>>47106006
Body horror, never got that one before... neat
d100 for our figure of legend!
Rolled 72 (1d100)
>>47106078
>>47106109
We got a dreadnought, interesting!
d100 for his deeds
Rolled 78 (1d100)
>>47106123
>>47106146
The legend committed great atrocities during the boarding of an Eldar Craftworld. He and his Warband are still hated to this day by the Eldar.
Probably did it for a favor from the big S
d100 for our homeworld
Rolled 68 (1d100)
>>47106240
>>47106297
Ah a fortress world, sticking to our Imperial fists roots
d100 for our terrain
Rolled 7 (1d100)
>>47106371
>>47106383
A jungle fortress world, welcome to miles and miles of jungle tunnels
d10 for our combat doctrine
Rolled 3 (1d10)
>>47106440
>>47106445
Armoured Fist - Heavy use of vehicles, tanks, transports and mechanized infantry.
We enjoy our predators and land raiders!!
d100 for our special equipment
Rolled 34 (1d100)
>>47106474
>>47106490
eeehh bestial companion... we wanna keep that or try again?
Rolled 47 (1d100)
>>47106507
Roll for retry
>>47106517
Unholy Wargear.
Well thats extremely vague, oh well we will figure it out later.
d10 for our warbands status
Rolled 7 (1d10)
>>47106550
Rolled 2 (1d10)
>>47106550
>>47106557
Nice slightly over strength, doing well for ourselves
1d10 for why we are bigger than normal
Rolled 5 (1d10)
>>47106601
>>47106631
The Warband joined forces with another Warband that shared the same goals or a common enemy.
Looks like we merged with another warband... cool
d100 for our allies
Rolled 38 (1d100)
>>47106655
>>47106675
Some Dark Mechanicus or even a traitor titan legion! We are damn well off huh?
d100 for our enemies
Rolled 35 (1d100)
>>47106701
>>47106724
A tyranid Hive fleet, interesting
Alright, let me get the summary, lets see if we wanna try to re-roll anything, and then we can move on to fluffing!
>>47106761
Gotta admit, having our figure of legend be a dreadnought and our allies the Dark Mechanicus is really interesting. Maybe we can fluff it as our FoL was wounded heavily in battle and the Dark Mech saved him by interring him in the dreadnought sarcophagus?
>>47106655
Joined forces with an Iron Warriors warband in a desperate battle against a bigger foe?
Could be called the Forgiven or some such.
>>47106788
Do like that angle. Certainly fits. What were they like before? Some Slaaneshi-sorcerer?
Alright. This might not be what other people are picturing, but here's what I'm thinking.
>Imperial Fists successors fighting Iron Warriors on their generic fortress world.
>Suddenly, Tyranids.
>Both sides rapidly get outnumbered. With the Iron Warriors lacking manpower but having plenty of tech, and the Imperial Fists doing the opposite.
>Cue veteran leaders of both factions deciding the only way to survive is to work together.
>"We were brothers once. We will be again."
>Suddenly, the Iron Warriors are bolstered with Imperial Fists reinforcements, and the Iron Warriors begin to send heavy weapons to support the Fists.
>The Planet gets covered in Tyranid jungles, the Chapter Master gets interred in a Chaos Dreadnought, and they get the message they've been excommunicated.
>We are a renegade chapter descended from the Imperial Fists Chapter
>We were excommunicated from the Imperium after we commited atrocities and/or cowardly actions as we neared annhilation in order to survive
>We are neutral, seeing chaos merely as a tool and consider the 'faithful' to be fools and slaves
>Even so, occasionally we give souls to please Slaanesh, in order for us to receive the occasionalk assistance from them
>We believe that power demands a sacrifice, and we are willing to sacrifice anything to advance ourselces, even our own brothers.
>We believe all that aren't us are merely pawns to be used and expended when we see fit
>We are often mutated in horrific physical ways(TBD)
>Our figure of legend(and possible current champion) is a dreadnought, who commited great atrocities upon an eldar craftworld and his name is still loathed by the race
>We live on a fortess jungle world, sticking to our fist roots somewhat
>We focus on armored combat, using many battle tanks to crush our enemies beneath our treads
>We make use of unholy wargear(TBD)
>We are slightly above strength, following our merging with another chapter with similar goals to ours
>We are allied with a Dark mechanicus and/or Traitor titan legion
>We are enemies with a hive fleet
Anything we wanna re-roll or just straight up change? Personally Slaanesh feels out of place, as we seem incredibly practical.
>>47106788
>>47106817
Both these ideas are good, though possibly not 'The Forgiven' for a name, sounds a bit loyalist to me
Why does it have to be baby rape?
Noise Marines or obsession with perfection via artifice and tactical genius might suit them better
>>47106939
>From my perspective, it is the Imperium that is the traitor.
Bumping so we don't 404
>>47106918
I'd say it'd be better if the FoL, if he's the Chapter Master or not, should probably be mortally wounded when attacking the Craftworlders, and was placed into the dreadnought afterwards.
But the idea of a Dreadnought leading a Legion is very interesting to me.
>>47106918
That sounds fucking tits.
>>47106918
This is kickass
>>47106951
YEs, but everytime anyone heres 'Slaanesh' in regards to a warband it goes straight to that shit.
Maybe we follow undivided like the warriors, but pay a bit more homage to Slaanesh when it suits us? We are neutral so it sounds good to me personally
>>47106993
Or it might just be indirect Slaanesh worship.
Like, they're really into perfecting their war machines and weapons, to the point where Slaanesh blesses them without them asking in the first place.
>>47106973
>>47106918
>>47106970
>Chapter Master rules the chapter for a significant portion of time.
>Falls fighting the Eldar Craftworlders.
>Gets implanted into Dreadnought.
>Continues to command the chapter indirectly through trained loyal cast of servants
>Comes out to lead his troops in might armoured raids across the universe
And he shall carry them to the Eye of Terror himself!
>>47107015
Thats a good idea, I like that.
So we know how we started and are bigger than regular cause this >>47106918 is just so kick ass
What is our body horror thing? Any suggestions? Also what is our 'unholy wargear'?
>>47107015
Actually, thinking about that and what was said >>47106918
Maybe they are perfecting their weapons in a sort of arms race with the Tyranids on their partially Tyranized Fortress world.
The Elder Craftworld thing might have been a test run, to try new weapons systems to fight the Swarm.
Perfection of biological form versus perfection of artificial form, with a backdrop of brotherly competition between the former IW and IF. Instead of building better weapons and fortification to fight each other, they build better weapons and fortifications to try to one up each other.
>>47107037
Maybe the Slaanesh started favoring the warband after they merged with a Slaaneshi leaning warband.
There would be some nice tension between new members of the legion and those old dogs who agree with theur Iron Warrior battle brothers about being neutral towards the chaos gods.
>>47107037
Perhaps a bit stereotypical, but maybe mixing with the Iron Warriors our marines' flesh have begun to intermix with a lot of their augmetics and mechanical pieces in grotesque manners - eyes suddenly being over taken or growing in lighting fixtures, veins literally becoming coils and tubing that just burst in and out from the skin, metal building layers upon layers off bones and skulls 'til they start to jut out unnaturally into new bits.
>>47107075
This is fucking perfect! Always in an arms race, didn't even mean to please slaanesh with all those Eldar and our kickass weapons, fortifications and tanks. We are going with this I say
So what should our name be? A combination of Iron Warriors and Imp fists succesors, obsessed with perfect weapons, vehicles and fortifications, in an eternal arms race with the tyranids on their world
Should their Body horror mutations be from the Tyranids fucking with their gene seed over time?
>>47107037
Mechanical body horror maybe?
They upgrade themselves with augments that slowly start to spread and take over to create more perfect mechanical warriors?
If we didn't reroll the Daemon Prince thing, then maybe the Dreadnought interred Chapter Master slowly warped into some daemonic war machine.
>>47107138
>>47107132
Good idea, fuck the tyranid thing I suggested, slowly merging wwith their own machines is awesome
>>47107132
>>47107138
Sort of like a more elegant version of Tetsuo the Bullet man.
>>47107147
Sets up the strong Dark Mechanicus allegiance.
Actually, this chapter seems almost reliant on the Dark Mechanicus, between heavy mechanical body modification and massive mechanized warfare. I imagine the Dark Mechanicus asks a lot of "Favours."
Probably related to why the chapter attacked a craft world. You don't really just attack a craft world as a testing run for weapons.
>>47107185
good idea, sounds like our mechanicus compliment wanted some xenos tech. Do we want to also have titans, or jus the Dark Mechanicus?
>>47107195
I'd imagine nothing would make this legion harder than a Titan.
An active goal of the chapter would probably be to place their great Chapter Master into a Titan.
>>47107195
I think Titans would be a little much.
Probably shitloads of Dreadnoughts though. Like, whole squads of Contemptors, each one perfectly fused with the marine interred inside to become ridiculous killing machines.
>>47107247
Yeah, I'm thinking it'd be better if they didn't have a Titan, but were striving to get one.
>>47107222
>>47107247
Shit. Maybe it's partly a go big or go extinct thing. With the Tyranids having lots of Bio-Titan's and Carnifexes, they have to make big walkers to compete.
>>47107247
It could be considered an honored ritual among our warband - where as most loathe or would choose to fight being interred, to become one with a dreadnought is a true pleasure that they have not yet invented words needed to describe
>>47107247
>>47107289
>>47107280
Yea cool! I'm loving this!
Alright, what do you name these kick ass dudez?
Also, what do we have for that whole 'unholy wargear' thing? Is it our machines have like... unholy blessings or something?
>>47107147
Maybe they get stuck in their suits, and end up just building on from there.
Power armor because a Terminator, Terminator becomes a Dreadnought, and soon the Dreadnought Chapter Master might be a Titan.
>>47107299
Yeah, but I imagine it's something like >>47107015
The gear is consecrated by a priest, but Slaanesh is impressed with their striving for perfection so he blesses the gear of his own accord.
>>47107307
ooooo sort of a weird version of the obliterator virus? I like it
>>47107320
good idea, they are getting blessed by slaanesh and they never even know it
>>47107299
Perhaps, in Slaanesh's infinite capacity for serving pleasure and pain together, they possess... possessive wargear?
A boltgun that seemingly is so well maintained that it's practically a part of you... and then is. To the point where you're not sure if you're using it or its using you.
>>47107344
They just end up considering themselves the weapon, with the boltgun just being an extention.
>>47107373
>>47107344
In a way, some troops would just eventually become calculated, just about soulless, killing machines.
Kind of like Rubic Marines, except they're a lot less predictable, harder to control, and easier to kill.
>>47107344
>>47107373
I like it, like I said, a weird version of the obliterator virus mixed with this >>47107307
>>47107342
I imagine that's it's probably a lot less mutilated and unintentional looking compared to the Obliterator virus.
Like, ignoring that this is a Black Templar, something like this.
>>47107403
I'd say Rubric marines are to dead inside.
Its more like they become extremely dangerous servitor like beings, as they become their weapons, or machines and they don't even realize the change
>>47107299
The Brotherhood of Anguish?
The Forged?
>>47107416
Well yea, the obliterator virus is to ugly for the big S, we have a more elegaant version he/she/it modified themselves for us, cause we are so enjoyable
>>47107430
THe FORGED! That sounds terrifying! Agreed thread? Are we now the forged?
>>47107427
Yeah.
Probably more like actual Abominable intelligences than Servitors. They retain all their cunning and self determination, just shedding all the stuff that made them human. Kind of grows out of the IW and IF fighting alongside each other. First they set aside their hatred so that they can win, then they start doing it to everything else not related to victory and warfare.
>>47107459
Exactly, love it!
>>47107459
Sooo did we make Chaotic Borg Marines?
>>47107458
Maybe the Forge Warriors as a little shout-out to our boys, the IW?
>>47107535
Nah, in my opinion 'The Forged' just sounds kick ass, and it represents their change from IF and IW to brothers 'forged together in combat'
>>47107517
More like self improving Terminator Marines.
>>47107458
Maybe the Reforged? The blade that was broken, remade. Better and sharper than before, in the crucible of eternal war.
>>47107535
Sounds like it'd be giving them too much reverence for whatever reason - the two melded as one, there should be no longer a distinction between them, except as maybe some kind of company structure
Ok. We are either going with 'The Forged' or 'The Reforged'. I like the forged better personally, obviously, but thread?
>>47107589
Vote for the Forged
>>47107589
>>47107598
I feel like Forged implies a certain level of old world sensibility, or even dirtiness.
These guys are using the cutting edge of Chaos technology. Forged sounds like people are making the shit with hammers, but these guys have like a hundred robotic arms precision shaping stuff to the nanometer.
>>47107636
Not, the forgers, the 'Forged' as in they are forged of metal and flesh, the ultimate weapons. Forged is not simply with hammer and anvil, Weapon-smithing involves advanced tech but is still called 'smithing'. Ithink it works perfectly in the macabre realm of chaos, especially since they are so heavily supported by Hereteks
>>47107671
It also can mean how they were forged through battle - made from two parts, they were taken into the fires of combat against a common foe and were made into something stronger, fiercer and deadlier than they could ever have been separately before
>>47107636
I don't really have that problem, but I feel like Forge is just kind of an overused word in the 40k universe. Everything technology or crafting related has the word forge in there. I feel like it's really fitting, but unfortunately forgettable.
>>47107721
Well what would you suggest? If forged is overused what else can we call them... hmmmm
>>47107721
>>47107747
Seriously, if we're getting into that, then any use of the words "angel", "fist", "claws", "wolves", "imperial", "iron", "fire", etc should be stricken right out
>>47107589
How about Sons of the Forge?
>>47107819
YEa thats true.
We are going with 'The Forged' it sounds kickass, makes sense in several ways and ends this arguement.
Alright, what else do we need? Other than general Write and drawfagging...
Oh whats our symbol?
>>47107848
Two firebrands coming together at their hilts? With maybe a Slaaneshi icon worked in somewhere?
>>47107869
Remember we don't actively worship the big S, he/she/it just likes us because we are perfectionists.
I like the firebrands though
>>47107848
>Symbol
I'd go with some type of hammer and anvil arrangement.
Or how about a communist hammer and sickle?
Communist Chaos Space Cyborgs
>>47107848
Colors.
Which is kinda tough here I think.
>>47107886
How about they're centered in the middle of an iron eight-pointed star?
>>47107905
Perfect.
>>47107892
ah yes, colors. One of the ultimate problems...
They should be muted, like the iron warriors to an extent, no super flashy being perfectionists but practical.
I have only skimmed the thread, but it seems to me that an important part of fluffing these guys is the thing that's been ignored the most.
Who where they before going to chaos?
>>47107939
What, like when they were still loyalists?
We covered that - they were a company of Imperial Fists that ran into some Iron Warriors, but as they were getting into it, some Tyranids showed up and it became a huge shit-show that neither would survive on their own, so they joined forces to beat them back and became our current warband
>>47107964
I would consider what they where when fluffing what they are, that's all
What's the summary on these guys, in all?
>>47107939
Probably fairly generic Imperial Fists descendants. Maybe with a bent towards the more pragmatic and military strategy/high quality gear.
>>47107892
>>47107930
Working on some test schemes now
>>47107964
>>47107985
>>47107996
I like the idea of them being just a strait up Imperial fists company(I always thought it was weird that a 'rouge company' was not a choice on the table)
>>47108003
>>47108003
If they have some IW in them, they should have a hazard stripe in there somewhere imo, but then you kinda limit your color options.
>>47108019
>>47106918
>>47106939
>>47104006
So basically its a bunch of guys acting like in Vietnam, killing shit in the jungle, fucking whores, and abusing anyone they come across who can't defend themselves. Neat. They also take orders from a washed up old guy stuck in a cargo container. Sounds like a Vietnam era admiral or some shit.
>>47108053
Not... at all... thats.. .extremely incorrect... read the thread dude
>>47108050
Trying for some darker (dimmer?) shades
>>47108019
>>47108050
I like these two definitely, and maybe like>>47108020 says we can throw in a hazard stripe or two? Or just leave behind that part of the IW
>>47108080
OH YES, thats kick ass actually, thread?
>>47108063
I read some shit about guys in a jungle worshiping that god of hermaphrodites. Someone also said something about fucking babies, but I figured I'd give this crew the benefit of the doubt.
Was I wrong? Are the babies fuck?
>>47108080
I definitely like it, but it seems too similar to other warbands already. Maybe that's not a bad thing though.
>>47108095
Just read the fucking thread dude.
>>47108095
The babies thing was a joke about slaanesh worshippers.
Again jusrt... read the thread man, like the most recent posts at least. Someone should put up a summary though, I'll work on that now I suppose
Does anyone actually play Crimson Slaughter? They seem so pointless, something nobody wanted or asked for.
>>47108105
Sorry, I know. Kind of been trying to avoid that. Jsut a bit hard to go for something more... iconic? For lack of a better word that still remains fairly dull or lacking anything too bright for soulless machine men
>>47108158
If anyone can give me some idea of which direction to take this in, between like >>47108019
and >>47108080 that'd help some
>>47108158
That actually works really well. Keeps the Fists heritage in the yellow and has room for a hazard stripe on one shoulder if we wanted to do that. The silver helmet is also pretty boss.
>>47108121
>>47108131
Yeah I read like halfway and then I saw these space marine designs. I don't actually like 40k except I own some kickass Kroot models. ( cuz Tau are way cooler than spass marin )
I'm glad to hear about the babies though. Occasionally 40kers are into some super crazy shit, especially those Slaanesh-type.
>>47108158
>>47108080
Dude your awesome. I say one of these two personally, I really like them, and fuck wether or not thewy are a bit similar to existing ones, Ithink they are unique enough.
>>47108153
Thats... why the fuck is this being mentioned??!!
Also, what next boys? Again, aside from general write and drawfag(which all are welcome to do)
>>47108195
Ok, tell me when your done, cause this one is awesome to... so many kick aass choices
>>47108195
Oh fuck, I like this one even more.
Also, I'm a graphic design student. If you guys come up with a logo I can work up a quick mockup with my toilet paper degree.
>>47108217
Well if we're close to something we can make a final decision on, I can stop it right there
>>47108222
Two fire brands still hot meeting at the hilt, encircled by a burning star in the shape of the 8 pointed atar of chaos.
Thats what we have so far, use muted colors if you intend to color
>>47108204
OP's pic and the seething rage that the likes of the Death Guard and Iron Warriors still have to use the current croc of shit we call a codex.
>>47108225
Yea lets stop and look at our options
Personally? These three are the best
>>47108195
>>47108158
>>47108080
Thread?
My gripes and/or points I'm ignorant on
>Slaanesh worship. Why? What led them down that path of horrible music and a perfection fetish?
>What's their name?
>Why wouldn't their paint scheme be relatively the same? Maybe some old school Rouge Trader chamo?
>Why does their wierd armour/weapon thing have to be a Snowflake Obliterator virus thing and not just Warp Taint/Gene Flaw?
>They could be knockoff Iron Hands/Salamanders/Iron Warriors at this point right? Traitor Titans, Dark Mechanicus, Iron Warrior allies and some wierd technological meshing+their chapter master being a giant robot anyhow...just saying we could probably play up the artificer elements alongside the Muh Tactical Superiority inherent in Fists.
>Pretty much every loyalist chapter picks up cultural queues from real life, what are these guys? Greeks? Islanders? Slavs? Native Americans? 'Muricans? Indians?
>>47108294
Ok, so Chaos marines tend to ignore cultural stuff, its cooler that way.
They are 'The Forged', forged anew as brothers, as weapons
They don't actively worship Slaanesh at all, he/she/it blesses them without their knowledge
What do you mean relatively the same???
How are they Knock offs of those legions? Just because they happen to be tech based?
Its not a snowflake thing, I was comparing it to the virus, their thing is a geneseed flaw/Warp taint
>>47108294
Pretty sure we covered most of this.
>Slaanesh worship. Why?
They seek perfection through their augmentations and mechanical practices as part ritual/part-contesting against each other. Not huge worshippers so much as Slaanesh happens to take notice and began to 'bless' them for their actions
>What's their name?
The Forged. We just literally settled on that.
>Why does their weird armor/weapon thing have to be a Snowflake Obliterator virus thing and not just Warp Taint/Gene Flaw?
What are you even on about?
>>47108341
Everything they just said
>>47108260
As the guy that's just been throwing these out, I personally like scheme 6 the most
>>47108260
This one here's my personal fave >>47108195, especially with the armor choice he gave the marine.
>>47108341
>They are 'The Forged', forged anew as brothers, as weapons
>>47108375
>The Forged. We just literally settled on that.
Ah, I too played Fallout 4.
>>47108443
What? Is there a faction called the Forged Fallout 4? I don't own the game so...
>>47108443
>>47108459
Eh, I don't see it as a problem. Fuck's sake, 'Deathwing' has been used surprisingly frequently too.
>>47108195
A best
Maybe>>47108080
But it seems so generic for chaos-boys.
>>47108459
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Forged
Leader's even in a "Dreadnought".
>>47108195
So this is clearly the favorite. I say, we roll with it. Its badass, perfectly colored, and makes me think 'Machine'. THIS is our color scheme.
Ok, so Lets work on our figure of legend.
He was the captain of the Imperial fists when the Warband was first made, so tell me, who is he? What is his dreadnought armament? What sort of kick ass body horror machine shit does he have? How does he act?
>>47108504
Ok maybe I'll read it late. regardless, they have nothing to do with this thread, lets move on
>>47108396
>>47108410
>>47108494
Think that's three for >>47108195
>>47108537
>Ok maybe I'll read it late. regardless, they have nothing to do with this thread, lets move on
Other than a shared, highly uninspired name?
>>47108559
If you're not gonna contribute anything of substance, fuck off
>>47108537
Did we want to go with the standard box-on-legs or maybe say something like a Contemptor pattern dreadnought frame?
>>47108583
Contemptor would be pretty rockin'.
>>47108583
Touchy, aren't we?
I'm going to assume The Forged is your contribution? It's not a bad name, but there's nothing...fiery in particular about these guys. And it seems more Khornate than Slaaneshi regardless.
>>47108583
Why not the Leviathan pattern? Like, it started regular box on legs maybe, but transistioned to Leviathan due to the whole 'evolving machines' thing? Contemptor is cool but I never see the Leviathan get any love
>>47108611
We could get away with it too I think - something our IW half had stored away from the Heresy era
>>47108611
>>47108583
Snowflakey.
A hellbrute would be more fitting.
>>47108625
That's because it's rarer than shit. Rarer than a Contemptor which are pretty fuckin rare to begin with.
Unless Super Special is the goal.
>>47108619
What do you mean fiery? Not every CSM or SM Chapter need be insane, and these guys have plenty of cool shit.
As for whose contribution it was, no idea, but I the OP put it up as cool. And honestly they are largely godless period, slaanesh is in now way worshipped, they just bless the chapter for there extreme perfectionism
>>47108641
He was interred during their first battle as Traitors, I don't think they were corrupted enough for a hellbrute.
As for the Leviathan I mean... yea its rare, and seems a bit snowflakey, but I have heard of 0 in lore, extremely rare and non-existant are 2 different things.
Plus? If the IW we merged with had a shitload of archaotech along with the Dark Mechanicus boys, I don't think there being 1 would be too super far fetched right?
>>47108641
Eh. Point.
I'd like to see some kind of power claw or something
Alright, here's what I have so far.
I'm not a big fan of the branding iron though so I'm gonna try another variant with an anvil and maybe a hammer.
>>47108726
That looks pretty good...
Though yeah, now I'm looking at it, the irons do kind of just blend in with the rest, don't they? Let's give the hammer and anvil a shot.
>>47108726
I think Swords would probably be better than literal brands. Idk.
>>47108619
That's what I was saying at >>47107636
>>47108294
I agree about the manufacturing stuff. While I like the ideas of perfecting themselves as war machines, that should really extend to how they do war as much as what they do it with. The Imperial Fists were always about using good tactics and battle plans rather than the Iron Warriors who relied on just huge amounts of military might. These guys would have to be a fusion of those two ideas.
>>47108792
Good lord no.
They're not Salamanders or even Iron Hands.
If it has to be somehow forge/artifice related, I'd say hammer and tongs. It's less done, and proverbially it means to do something with a lot of enthusiasm.
>>47108832
>>47108848
Those would work too, maybe
>>47108832
Works for me! An interesting combo that should make.
So are we just making the champion a standar Dreadnought then? I'm just wondering what we are doing. Personally I feel it makes less sense to make him a hellbrute, since that implies a certain amount of distaste with what has happened to him.
If we are making him more vanilla, just make him a regualr chaos dread I say as he would have been interred at their first battle being traitors, so a hellbrute feels off
I still put forward possibly a leviathan pattern, but I get it seems snowflakey and will drop it if no one else agrees
>>47108885
The champion just gives us a cool oppourtunity with our heretek friends who would have some truly ancient shit, and I feel like we aren't using that potential by making him just a hellbrute
>>47108885
I'd prefer contemptor. If only because I actually can't stand the boxy no-knees style dreadnoughts. They just look goofy to the point of impracticality. Plus, these guys seem to care about having the best cutting edge stuff. So I imagine that it would probably be important for the chapter master to have the best available.
Though I think the Leviathan is kinda pushing it.
>>47108885
I see like huge fuck off pincer claws powered by hydraulic presses, or maybe some kind of tentacle flail thing
>>47108915
I was picturing an actual sword. Like how Wraith Knights or Wraithlords have them.
Maybe even some artifact weapon pillaged from the Craftworld?
>>47108926
Wraithblade? I like the sound of that.
How's about the Felhand/Fell Hands as a name?
Okay, take two with hammer, tongs and silver background to better reflect the warband's paint scheme.
Thoughts? I might change the color on either the hammer or tongs to help one stand out.
>>47109081
Why? We have a name, 'The Forged' and no reason to re-name it.
>>47109088
I like this, yea maybe change the color of one of the tools and... chaos it up? I dunno, addp spikes to tools, maybe make the tongs specifically spiked?
>>47109088
I still say we're getting too wrapped up in this whole forging and creation business. They don't even make anything new, they just improve on what's their. Sure, the Iron Warriors have some pretty heavy stuff relating to creation, but these guys are majority Imperial Fists and it's a secondary characteristic of the Iron Hands to begin with.
I say these guys should be something like the Steel Predators or the Evolved. Maybe play up tactics and strategy in their self improvement stuff.
>>47109118
Because it's dumb and doesn't have a lot to do with them besides coolness?
>>47109141
One set of traits doesn't mean necessarily it MUST be exemplified by a certain chapter or legion. If they preferred to fight in close quarters, are you saying they ought to be Blood Angels instead?
>>47109194
We're pretty much settled on it I think. There's seriously no reason to keep posting about changing it except to annoy the piss out of us that want to move forward.
>>47109141
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Something to consider as well is their chapter Demeanor. These guys probably have egos the size of Necron World Engines, you ask me them making up for eating humble pie and siding with fucking IW by becoming Superpredator murder autists possessed by their gear/giant ass hole braggards is what drew the eye of Slannesh
>>47109250
>us
You mean you?
I'm not alone here sport >>47109141
>>47105405
How does he wipe himself?
>>47109265
He probably doesn't eat.
>>47109194
Does not have a lot to do with them? It has everything to do with them. Its about their origin, their gear, their evvolution, their purpose. Its all about 'Forging' something new and more powerful that it once was.
And if thats your problem, what the fuck does 'fell Hands' have to do with anything????
>>47109141
Whats wrong with focusing on the creation part? it sets them apart from their preceessors, both IF and IW
>>47109251
Being egotistical does not necassarilty mean 'braggart', you can be completely self obsessed and noot let anyone know it(smart narcissists do this all the time)
Their whole deal is self improvement and a march towards perfection which slaanesh loves. They want to be the perfect killers, the perfect marines, the perfect soldiers, perfect everything.
>>47109300
>And if thats your problem, what the fuck does 'fell Hands' have to do with anything????
Calm yourself my autistic friend.
It was in reference to their more hyper predator endstate, where the armour and Bolter is more in control than they are.
A little less on the nose as well, I think.
>>47109300
Because it sets them so far apart as to render their predecessors pointless.
Also.
Yes. Improving every part themselves. Not just their gear. The gear is very important, sure, but it's not the central idea. So the forge iconography kinda falls down. Symbolism doesn't run deep in 40k. If you have hammers and are called the Forged, your primary focus is smithing gear. Which isn't these guys primary purpose.
>>47109264
Also >>47109250 is also not alone anon. If you look up the thread, plenty of people agree with him including me
Also, before shit gets bad, may I ask that those who wish to suggest things lets not devolve into calling eacho other faggots over the intwernet and try to have intelligernt conversation
>>47109329
Less on the nose? Personally tI think thats weirdly specific, they are about more than just their weapons merging with their hands.
>>47109333
They are clearly trying to set themselves far from the grievances of their forebeareers, also, just because GW can't do intelligent and deeper symbolism does not mean we cant.
We are allowed to be a bit more intelligent than GW
And who says forging applies only to gear? whatever happend to 'forged in the fires of war'? It just refers to making and improving something
>>47109394
I just told you what about it implies it.
Look at 40k. Look at the symbology of it. Hammers and Anvils? They make stuff. It's not a complicated place.
>>47109329
I disagree. Fell Hands just sounds like it could be applied to anything as justification.
>>47109333
Not pointless, just different 'cause of their melding together - like a new alloy being made from other materials
>>47109411
Really?
>Hammers of Dorn
>Don't make shit, just follow the codex like a bunch of book thumping christians and use heavy weapons
Again, I think your oversimplifying it yourself, or just using the dumb ass examples like the Iron hands who have literal metal hands
>>47109394
They used to be fists anon. Most of them are ---- Fists/Hand/Dornfingers.
>>47109394
-sigh- Yeah, agreed. Things are getting a bit heated.
>>47109436
We are traitors, why the fuck would we use our Loyalist naming conventions???
>>47109434
That's just hammers though. Which are as much weapons as swords are.
If they were the Hammers and Anvils of Dorn that would be a different story.
>>47109446
>>47109456
Ye sorry, I'm getting heated at this, only put 1 question mark on that pls
>>47109436
Black Templars. Celestial Lions. Soul Drinkers. Fire Lords. Executioners. Astral Knights.
>>47109498
Don't the Black Templars pre-date the Imperial Fists in publication history?
>>47109474
Their chapter badge is a hammer hitting an anvil
As for more examples?
Mentors
>Don't teach people anything, just crazy secretive
The Cleaved for Chaos
>Other than murdering peopple, are just weird CSM who seem to be Daemons or some shit
>>47109498
Has several good examples
Silver skulls
>Weirdly superstitious fuckers
Iron Snakes
>Sure, a bit of serpent stuff, but superstitious space greeks
>>47109456
Lmao bruh, could you get any more perturbed? The name is a tad silly for these guys.
I think the Evolved is kinda neat, or maybe Genesis Knights? Geiger Reverse Chivalry anyone?
I'm gonna admit I'm mainly arguing against the Forged because I think one word chapter/warband names, especially ones that really simple descriptors, are really forgettable and becoming overdone.
I'd much prefer something classic that's *adjective* *noun*.
>>47109528
>>47109498
This stuff only makes me more adamant about it. Those names have absolutely nothing to do with what they are, but are much more memorable than if they were.
Except the Mentors. I think that's kind of a dumb name for space marines.
>>47109581
>Evolved
>Genesis Knights
>Less silly than 'Forged'
>>47109603
Less silly and less tacky/overdone is different though.
Forged just seems so forgettable.
>>47109601
I feel like kind of opposite somewhat. It just seems really easy for a name that consists of like 'adjective' 'noun' could be interchanged with just about anything else fo a similar note
>>47109616
Fell hands is not any better in that regard
Ok, if the Forged is so forgettable what do you suggest that isn't then? Something that has nothing to do with who they are or what they do? what then?
>>47109639
Also Fell hands is just gonna make people think of Bjorn
>>47109639
Agreed. That, if anything, is easily more forgettable.
>>47109637
I also agree with this, that style is so fucking overdone, I actually find the single words far more interesting and rememberable, like the Mentors, the Cleaved, the Purge and such
Since names are in Flux I've had this idea for paintscheme that I haven't been able to create...
>Main colours are obnoxious Marines Malevolent yellow, with black Vines/Laticework/Cobwebs or White Scars esque Thunder bolts across the armour.
>The hands are some obnoxious magenta/vermillion colour.
>The eyes...green?
>Mostly use Beaky and Maximus armour with fur collars. Because fur collars on Chaos Marines is rad
>>47109639
I didn't pitch Fell Hands. I offered up the Evolved and the Steel Predators. I'm not so sure about either of those, but there's something in that line of thinking in my opinion. I think Remade would be better than Forged as well.
Something about the Forged. It just feels like something I've heard a dozen times before. It's got no pop, nothing that makes it stand out. I dunno, maybe I'm just having some weird autism, but it just doesn't have anything that makes it stick in my mind.
>>47109722
We have a kickass color scheme already we all agreed upon >>47108195
>>47109728
Honestly? It may just be you aat the moment like you sdaid, the rest of the thread bar you and one other appear to like it, and as neither of the two you suggested seem particularly interesting(to me at least) or memorable, lets stick with the Forged as more people seem to agree its good and move on ok? We have alot to fluff
Remade also just kinda sounds... sorry it just sounds kinda dumb and unreative. 'Remade'? Just kinda boring
>>47109773
Remade and Forged are pretty much identical in terms of memorable-ness in my mind. That is, very little.
I just like it better in the context of who they are. A remade legion, remade people, a remade planet even.
I guess I'm fine with them being the Forged. I didn't really have a name in mind when I thought about them being a fusion of IW and IF anyway.
>>47109773
Meh, it's okay. Kinda boring for Slanneshi dudes. Kinda boring in general.
When I make these boys myself I'm gonna ignore that shit. Like I ignore the dumbass Sanguine Shields lore
>>47109812
Well lets move on then and agree to disagree anon
Ok whats next? Really I think we need some writefagging if anyones up for it
I'll get something up tomorrow probably.
Hmm... we still ned a name for our champion, as well as a definitive decision on what kind of dread he is
Someone suggested he use a looted Eldar Wraithknight sword? That was pretty cool
>>47109827
Ok anon, though muted and reserved is different from boring your choice
Though if they ain't painted the scheme the rest of the thread chose, I'd hardly say your playing the forged.
And I would like to remind everyone, they don't actively worship Slaanesh! They do so passively through their strive for perfection and the big S blesses them for it
>>47109873
Dude, no.
You act like a fucking police officer, like you own them.
We don't like that name, stop being an Ultra faggot
>>47109873
To be fair, their passive behavior has to be enough like Slaanesh worship to warrant blessings from him.
Anway. I'd say a highly modified contemptor. Maybe even verging into something like a Kytan, Chaos Knight, or Decimator.
>>47109873
>Though if they ain't painted the scheme the rest of the thread chose, I'd hardly say your playing the forged.
At this point I'm sure that's a compliment
>>47109937
Some of us do like the name though.
If you don't like the direction this going in, do your own thing. Stop being more of an Ultrafaggot.
>>47109937
Who the fuck is we?
Two people so far have said they don't like it, and none of them have put forward superior choices so until the time as the thread claims a better name we are keeping it
>>47109952
Take it however you want anon, I couldn't care less
OP is going too sleep now.Keep the thread alive and... try not to let it implode intoinsults and faggotry. Discuss fluff, writefag if you wish
Here, a bump from your devoted friends of the Dark Mechanicus.
>>47110390
Oh Hai vex
