Does the Glorianna have the advantage through sheer bulk, the amount of void shields, armor and mass?
The amount of shit the Enterprise's phasers and torpedoes can cut through is just so thick. And assuming they can even pinpoint a critical reactor that could actually cripple a ship the size of Manhattan island AND teleport through all those different shields, could they even assemble an away team capable of fighting it's way through a population of angry muscly slaves and cyborgs who know nothing but anal cramps and war?
Could the Entrprise even withstand a barrage from the smaller caliber Macro Cannons?
Could Picard negotiate a peaceful solution with them?
>>47099078
Why would you need to assemble an away team, beaming a proton torpedo directly adjacent to the main reactors on a ten second timer would do your job just as well.
>>47099110
That's if you can:
-Find the reactor, one of hundreds against the background radiation of kilometers of machinery that nobody has bothered to mask for centuries
-Beam through about ten different kinds of shields designed to ward off attacks in the tens of megatons ranges
-AND get close enough to teleport through a barrage of AA that is denser than LA Traffic on a Friday afternoon.
>>47099110
Yeah, if only transporters were affected by shields and metal thickness.
Oh, wait....While we're at it, beaming explosives is a pretty inefficient way of destroying things, since you can use a transporter as a directed energy weapon
>>47099110
If it were that easy, why doesn't every other race that has teleporters (pretty much every one of them) use them against the Imperium?
>>47099078
>Could Picard negotiate a peaceful solution with them?
With no problems, if he himself executes this damn filthy xenos of course.
>>47099110
Good try with that fucking shit macro meme.
It works with SW ships not with retardely over the top 40k stuff famfalam.
>>47099078
That prow that is 6 times as high as the enterprise is long? That is for RAMMING OTHER SHIPS
Federation starships like to float about a kilometer in front of the ship they intend to fight and then both ships shoot each other until one surrenders or explodes.
>660m of "Look, deep down inside we are all the same! Let us be neighbors!"
vs
>20km of "PART THINE CHEEKS AND BITE THINE TONGUE HERITIC FILTH, I AM ENTERING UN-LUBRICATED!!"
>>47099078
>Could Picard negotiate a peaceful solution with them?
With Perturabo? Make a guess
>>47099078
40k space weaponry ranges some 500km or even more. Star trek weapons are a lot shorter ranged.
Does the Federation even have actual warships? The Enterprise seems to be referred as a lot of things but not a warship.
>>47100164
>Does the Federation even have actual warships
Yes.
>The Enterprise seems to be referred as a lot of things but not a warship.
Because it isn't a warship.
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Starship_classification
>>47099249
Plus Trek transporters don't work unless you lower *your* shields first. If someone is shooting at you, why would you lower your own shields ?
Geller fields block teleportation.
>>47099934
500km? try 100000km for higher end, 50000km for medium and everything under 10000km is basically knife fighting range.
>>47099110
beaming requires a shield drop
dropping your shields within 10000km of ANY Imperium warship, much less a Glorianna class, is gonna be the last mistake you make.
>>47100231
It actually is a warship, the Federation just likes to pretend otherwise for propaganda reasons.There was this one episode in TNG where the whole crew lost their memories, and their first conclusion on reading the ship's specs was "We're a warship". However it's a multipurpose warship kind of like galleons and indiamen were during the age of sail, so it's suitable for exploration and commerce as well as standing on the line of battle.
>>47104049
>propaganda reasons
Why? Is the Federation trying to pass off as really pacifist by not calling their Fuck Your Shit-class murderships "warships"?
>>47104238
Honestly, I always figured they were so much more advanced compared to their one species empire neighbors that their science vessels and exploration ships were directly comparable to their rival's front line warships. And when they actually build a dedicated Warship, like the Defiant... well everyone else better start investing in some lube.
>>47101011
Why? There's nothing warpy about transporters. All materium-tier tech.
>>47101011
You're probably thinking Void Shields, which don't anyway even in 40k.
Ships are vulnerable to teleporation attacks, which is in of itself a risk in 40k due to warp shenanigans and the technology's inaccuracy.
Star Trek teleportation isn't as limited, though there's a short 3-5 second period where ratings can grab guns and ready themselves to fend off boarding parties or scramble to cover. Which of course doesn't matter if they're teleporting in photon torpedoes.
>>47104385
But the ST teleport has a limited range that is well within a Glorianna's attack range, plus the ship has to drop shields for a solid 20-30 seconds. Assuming the barrage even lets up for a minute.
>>47104322
On that note, if the Enterprise is in the 40k setting, all the telepathic crew that aren't Vulcans are going to have a bad day.
>>47104385
I thought void shields did block teleporters. In the RPG, you need to co-ordinate your fire to take them down before you launch boarding parties.
On the topic of shields, and this is pretty sketchy logic, but the Enterprise D's shields laugh at lasers, and a lot of 40k weapons tech is comparable to their laser macrobatteries. I feel like they could defend themselves against a 40k ship's weapons.
Also, macrobatteries. They're not accurate. I feel like the D could get in close, maybe just get right up behind the 40k ship and forcefully penetrate its shields. They wouldn't be able to board the ship though; 40k ships have a lot more able seamen.
>>47104440
You're assuming the Federation ship is retarded enough to make a slow leisurely approach from the Gloriana's broadside, instead of dropping out of warp directly in their blind aft spot and using their vastly superior maneuverability and speed to remain there. Or even making an approach at full impulse, which IIRC is something like half to three quarters the speed of light.
>>47104491
Your assuming a Federation ship knows how to tactics
>>47104491
>You're assuming the Federation ship is retarded
have you even watched star trek? that's not an unfair assumption
>attempt to hail the bad guy three times while being shot
>>47104543
Certainly better at it then the guys who routinely charge across open fields.
>>47104491
>Federation
>Tactics
>>47104582
It is generally easier to charge across open fields than doing so across, say, forests.
>>47104238
Yes, pretty much. The Federation tells itself and its neighbours that they're pacifists who only fight when pressed, but reality is that they're a heavily militarized polity given that Starfleet controls very large sections of their government and society. It's pretty funny watching Picard talk about how Starfleet isn't a military organization while flying around in warships armed with multi-megaton scale weaponry.
>>47104479
No the Ent-D's shields laugh at the lasers used by a civilization far less advanced than the Federation. They're not magically immune to all radiant energy, or else photon torpedoes wouldn't be effective. One presumes that getting lit-up by a laser cannon the size of city blocks would result in considerable damage to the Enterprise.
>>47104479
>but the Enterprise D's shields laugh at lasers, and a lot of 40k weapons tech is comparable to their laser macrobatteries. I feel like they could defend themselves against a 40k ship's weapons.
you don't know 40k ship weapons
>The Nova Cannon itself is massive; the barrel is the length of all but the largest Imperial vessels. The projectiles have a diameter of at least 50 metres and are fired at close to light speed after being accelerated by gravimetric coils. When the projectile has travelled the predetermined distance, the warhead implodes with a force equivalent to several plasma bombs. This creates a blast zone the size of a small planet, powerful enough to destroy a Light Cruiser in a single hit or cripple even a Battleship.
Yes it is written by 6 year olds. Federation tech cannot compete with NUH UH MY SHIP IS BIGGUR
>>47105067
>game is made to be ridiculous over the top
>complains when game is ridiculous over the top
Its certainly no less ridiculous than the kumbaya let's all get along if we talk fantasy.
>>47099110
In both settings it is extremely hard to teleport thru shields with the more powerful the shields the harder it is to do so. The voyager, which is a newer class of ship then the Entrprise, only teleport pass scout ships shield and even then it takes a bit of time.
>>47099110
Void shields block teleportation of all kinds
>>47099078
It looks to me that from the size of the barrels on the Gloriana's main guns, it would fire rounds almost half the size of the Enterprise.
Now we know from several Star Trek movies that ramming is effective even with their high tech shields.
The simple impact of one shell that large is going to destroy or cripple the Enterprise.
>>47099078
That particular Glorianna class is the Iron Blood
>At the time of the Great Crusade, it was considered one of the mightiest capital ships in the galaxy, capable of single-handedly annihilating other void fleets and entire worlds.
>clad in armour tens of metres thick. She was without viewports, for the war doctrines of Perturabo made it clear the battle should be conducted by calculation and firepower, and viewports into the void war were nothing but vanity.
>>47099078
Size ain't everything.
Hell, size is fucking nothing when comparing settings so radically different.
