Would witches with archetypical powers of women (sex, manipulation, cunning) completelly dominate a generic fantasy society? I can't imagine how would men/standard RPG witchunters have any chance against them. I think witchhunters would be females exclusively.
thoughts, /tg/?
>archetypical powers of women (sex, manipulation, cunning)
This thread will be good.
>being sexy and manipulative makes you invincible
Get a load of this beta.
>>47098240
>I can't imagine how would men/standard RPG witchunters have any chance against them.
"I'm gay."
>>47098311
Fuck, this is good. But a minuscule part of population is gay. It's hard to do something when half of population (male half) is against you.
>>47098333
>But a minuscule part of population is gay.
Well, presumably witches with archetypal powers of women (sex, manipulation, and cunning) with a desire to dominate a generic fantasy setting aren't that common, either.
The gay witch hunter doesn't have to beat ALL women, just the witches who are being bitches.
Well, this thread is headed places. Might as well dig into the controversial ideas.
So, who thinks prostitution and soldiery are basically equivalent?
They're both about doing something commonly seen as immoral (recreational sex, murder) for profit. Historically, both have involved young people being forced into them and taken advantage of, occasionally even children. Both can be options that people with no other work enter into to support themselves, and both can permanently ruin the lives of those they employ. When practiced without proper professional precaution and care, both can result in terribly physical illness or psychological injury. At the same time, there are a rare few individuals who find them empowering and enjoyable professions.
The main differences are that prostitution is about providing pleasure rather than injury, and that soldiers are more useful to the state than whores are. If one nation has soldiers, all the others need them too, which isn't the case with prostitution. I'd contend that that's the only reason war is seen as a more respectable profession than sex.
Anyone agree or disagree?
>>47098240
Weebs. Lolicon obsessed, 2D loving weebs.
Train them in wizardry and swordplay.
Basically an army of angry magical pedophiles. Stop that with your cleavage and honeyed words, you 3D wench.
>>47098333
That's a pretty big assumption OP.
Why would all of the men help that one magic bitch that keeps tricking them into painting houses and lifting things?
And what about warlocks, who would -in turn- have the archetypical powers of men (will, money, stabbing things)?
>>47098283
who do you think will start flinging shit first, /pol/ or tumblr?
Elitist gays would be nobility
>>47098438
Impossible to say, the false-flagging tactic is low-hanging fruit.
I will however bet that the phrase "nu-male" appears at least twice (not counting this post) before the thread gets deleted.
>>47098240
I think, mythologically speaking, demon summoning, prophecy and healing are also archetypical woman powers. There are a lot of different archetypes, though, depending on what culture you're talking about.
As for your question of whether they would dominate, well, any setting in which ONLY female witches have magic, of whatever kind, would result in them dominating. What magic do men get? What are the "archetypical powers" for warlocks?
>>47098473
>will, money, stabbing things
This, I guess.
>>47098240
This is now a Luis Royo thread. Post what you got boys!
>>47098240
>I can't imagine how would BIG THROBBING COCKS EJACULATING MONEY AND ATTENTION have any chance against them
You seem to lack a substantial insight to the female psyche, even for a fa/tg/uy
>>47098413
Would that mean that sluts and warriors are equivalent? Both are not really disciplined and professional about it, might be doing it out of necessity or even because it's fun.
>>47098497
>>47098521
>>47098466
>"nu-male"
'Fraid I'll have to fill half the quota by asking what in tarnation that is supposed to be now.
>>47098473
Conjuring in general if we go with western mythology as a group concept, not just demons, but yeah. Women were the ones who could summon shit, see the future and fix your nonsense. Male magicians are generally sinister tricksters or feminine guys who do women's magic, and those homomen are the ones who typically sexualize the shit out of it (outside of the Germanic and Norse practitioners of Seithr, but those also had a lot of dudes and fucking Odin was in charge of that shit).
>>47098561
>>47098240
>I think witch hunters would be females exclusively.
Eunuchs.
>Would witchhunters with archetypical powers of men (murder, domination, cunning) completelly dominate a generic fantasy society? I can't imagine how would women/standard RPG witches have any chance against them. I think mages would be males exclusively.
>thoughts, /tg/?
>>47098240
The witchhunters just need to make sure they have a wank before they go fight the sex witch. Problem solved.
>>47098603
>>47098658
>>47098240
>not defeating and punishing the witches with the power of hateboner
>>47098685
>>47098738
>>47098499
>that gif
good taste man
What about witches who have been brought up under male dominance?
>>47098785
I'm pretty sure this is a blue board anon.
>>47098785
>>47098803
>>47098333
>a minuscule part of population is gay
A minuscule part of population becomes witch hunters.
Coincidence?
>>47098240
>I can't imagine how would men/standard RPG witchunters have any chance against them.
Gay witchhunters?
>>47098413
Soldiers are not paid to kill people. The objective of any professional soldier today, and at most points in history, is to protect things from people who want to destroy them. Sometimes that my involve killing, but murder is not sanctioned by any military on the planet.
>>47098240
By the way, not all men think with their dicks. Just letting you know.
>>47098882
Lel good one.
>>47098240
>Would witches with archetypical powers of women (sex, manipulation, cunning) completelly dominate a generic fantasy society? I can't imagine how would men/standard RPG witchunters have any chance against them.
You know what else is archetypical about women? They fucking hate each other.
The moment any witch would gain the upper hand, all the other witches are going to manipulate everyone else against her.
It's basically a self policing system of passive aggressiveness.
>>47098889
Permavirgin detected.
>>47098827
>>47098891
Smart. I like it.
>>47098311
I can't not post this now.shame he had to die later
>>47098240
There's a short show on Netflix called Salem. Watch it.
>>47098899
>>47098800
IK, I would make this a Druuna thread if that was not the case
>>47098929
Well, I see a couple of tits there, not even concealed by a spoiler.
You might get a ban.
>>47098942
Wouldn't be the first time
If smite evil can be performed with an unarmed attack how much damage could a Paladin do to this witch with a pelvic thrust?
>>47098879
>I'm not murdering anyone, I'm just following orders.
>I'm not murdering anyone, I'm just giving orders.
It really is a perfect system.
>>47099020
>lolbercuck memes
Look, ace, murder is a specific kind of unsanctioned killing. Soldiers do not murder when they defend themselves from aggression, nor do they murder when they attack enemy combatants. Not all killing is equal and not all killing is bad or unnecessary.
>>47098240
If they control society, there are no witchhunters, you moron. It's that simple.
>>47099064
So droning durkas and theri kids&women = not murder?
Nice LE alignment you got there buddy
>>47099019
Depends on feat selection and stats.
But I'd say Base 1d3 +3 str + 3cha
So about seven damage assuming 16's in strength and charisma and he didn't take improved unarmed strike.
>>47098413
>>47099020
>>47099100
Bait deluxe in a bait thread...
>>47099064
Geneva conventions are nice and civilized thing for sure, but let's be honest here - first world soldiers only play by them when there's a chance journalists will show up on the scene, second world soldiers only play by then when journalists actually are on the scene and third world soldiers just kill journalists first.
>>47098466
I hate to say it fella, but like mister >>47098569 so kindly said. What in the sam hell is a nu-male?
>>47099100
>sand niggers
>people
>>47098240
Depends on the setting.
>>47099100
It's clearly not murder, as murder has a specific legal definition and air strikes on civilians in another country certainly don't come close to matching it. Some may argue that it constitutes a war crime, but overall I'm inclined to agree with >>47099150
>>47099123
>le let's get real :DDD
That's completely false, and shows you know as much about contemporary conflict as a fucking high school civics student.
>>47099123
Yes anon, all soldiers are horrible, horrible monsters and you should never talk to one or it will eat your soul.
>>47098413
No you asshat.
Whores can and have ruined families, moral society, and is the general side effect of a seedier, more criminal land.
Soldiers are the product of a nation or state that is upholding either their laws, or protecting their interests. This could be aggressive combat, or defensive maneuvers.
Now take you'd dumb ass back to the whore house you were surely born from.
>>47099172
>It's clearly not murder
>murder has a specific legal definition
Uh-huh.
So, as long as it's not legally defined as murder, killing another human being is better than having sex for money?
>>47099426
>waaaah, big mean soldiers are so mean :(
Fuck off.
>>47099400
>Whores can and have ruined families, moral society, and is the general side effect of a seedier, more criminal land.
And none of that has ever applied to soldiers in human history, has it?
I'm also sure prostitution could NEVER avoid those negative qualities even if it was subject to competent government regulation and accommodated as something respectable in a society's culture, could it?
>>47099446
I'm not hearing a yes or no, Anon.
>>47099503
That's because I give not the slightest shit for your question and am telling you to fuck off.
>>47099101
I don't think I've ever seen a more tumblr picture than that
>>47099518
Yet you care enough to actually tell me to fuck off, rather than just leaving without answering. You clearly do give some shit.
So, Anon. Yes or no. Is killing another human being, for which you will be paid, under someone else's order, morally better than having sex for money?
>>47099426
I haven't said shit about whores. I've just been telling you that soldiers are not murderers, and that they don't get paid to kill.
>>47098437
Witch hunters?
You need Will to resist, money to bribe or buy equipment and the stabbing things is part of the job.
>>47099599
>wah wah wah, I'm a whiny little baby because I'm naive enough to believe that every human life has value, and I'm going to go around annoying everyone with my poorly informed opinions
Just fuck off already.
>>47099623
Spoken as true burger
#Buildawalll "MakeMurricaFatAgain
>>47099650
Not even an American, faggot.
>>47099650
It's time to stop posting, anon.
>>47099615
You're right, you didn't say shit about whores. But in the context of this thread and how the discussion started, there was a heavy implication, don't you think?
Not that I agree with "soldiers don't get paid to kill". That's a question of definitions. A soldier is paid to do a variety of things, which includes killing. A soldier would have to be an idiot to sign up in the expectation that they won't have to kill someone at some point. There's no box on the recruitment papers that you can check labeled "no killing please". If you agree to be a soldier you are willfully acquiescing to the possibility that you will be required to kill someone, and that you will have to obey such a requirement or lose your job.
Saying a soldier isn't paid to kill is like saying a policeman isn't paid to catch criminals. Catching criminals isn't the whole of the job, they can direct traffic or act as guards or assist citizens in non-criminal affairs, so you COULD say "a policeman isn't paid to catch criminals". Technically. But it's one of the things they get paid for.
>>47099623
You don't seem to be having trouble giving your opinion, Anon. You're very heavily implying what your answer is without actually stating it. Why not just answer? Yes or no.
You also seem to be implying that not every human life has value. Are you saying that there are human beings whose existence is absolutely without worth, and for whom no consideration need be given as to whether to end it or not? Beings capable of thought, emotion, self-reflection and adaptation, who can feel pleasure and pain, who have entirely no worth?
Again, yes or no will do.
>>47099019
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>>47099773
You want my opinion? I'll tell you my opinion: it depends on who's getting shot and who's getting fucked. Happy now, crybaby?
>>47100018
yes or no will do
>>47100069
The question is inherently context sensitive. I can't give you a yes or no answer if you don't give me a context.
>>47100093
yes or no will do
>>47099711
>But in the context of this thread and how the discussion started, there was a heavy implication, don't you think?
No, not at all. I only replied to your post to correct your misunderstanding of what soldiers do.
>A soldier is paid to do a variety of things, which includes killing.
A soldier is paid to follow the orders of the state. In the first place, a state very rarely orders soldiers to kill people, as that typically constitutes a war crime. In the second, when a soldier kills, it is almost always in defense of himself or his comrades. When it can be avoided, militaries strongly prefer to capture the enemy rather than kill them, for a variety of reasons.
>>47100170
No context, no answer.
>>47099992
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>>47099469
Not the dude you're arguing with, but if i remember correctly we actually did try to legalize prostitution during the civil war. Least along the Mississippi. The problem was it was way to much work to regulate and make sure that all the girls were using proper protection and getting tested regularly. And all it takes is one or two working lady to spread the clap to half a town. Now you could argue "but that's just improper regulation, we could do it better today" which may be true. It would still probably be just as hard though. And all we're getting from it is hookers with out aids. The armed forces at least teach you other skills besides killing.
>>47100198
>Literally destroyed pussy.
>>47098240
Why not? If it makes for a good game, it doesn't matter how things might work out in real life. I myself have been toying with the idea of a yuri game where two basic rules state that 1) everyone who matters is a female and 2) is either lesbian or can discover that they're one.
>>47098413
I think there's another interesting parallel that you haven't drawn - many young men join the military to get a sense of freedom and adventure, and enjoy the benefits for a year or two. Prostitution actually initially gives a women a lot of freedom as well, especially in earlier times where most women would've been confined to the household or stuck in factories otherwise. But in both cases, an extended period of time in either profession will cause it to be less great, problems will arise and they'll regret joining, and after their service is done, they can have difficulty rejoining society and may face scorn.
But I think it's wrong to see soldiering as a more useful profession. In the defense of a country and maintaining order, that's all well and good. But prostitutes help maintain social cohesion, and aside from taboos and a chance of disease (that can be mitigated with the right precautions), there's no real downside to having prostitutes, where soldiers can riot if they're not properly paid, start revolutions, and occasionally wield more power than the actual government, such as in the case of WW2 era Japan.
>>47100230
And the force of your dick smash stuns her, deafens her, staggers her, throws her across the room, and terrifies her.
>>47098240
>Would witches with archetypical powers of women (sex, manipulation, cunning) completelly dominate a generic fantasy society? I can't imagine how would men/standard RPG witchunters have any chance against them.
>I think witchhunters would be females exclusively.
Just like in my fetishfuel then.
>>47098785
>>47100311
>fetishfuel
tvtropes pls go
>>47099622
No, you see, they have the supernatural archetypical masculine power of stabbing things.
This isn't your average, every day kind of stabbing. This is special magical stabbing.
Because penises.
>>47100302
God, what would have happened if we came inside.
Probably would have killed the poor thing.
Or whatever, she's evil right?
>>47100392
Jame Bond then?
Or some bard that likes to use magic on his dick before going to bed.
>>47098240
If they're proper witches, they wouldn't dominate much of anything. Too busy tromping through the rain to go deliver babies or keeping vigil over dying old folks or trying to herd goats. Or herd people, which are like goats, except dumber.
I mean look at that broad in your pic, OP. That's no witch. Where's her hat? Where are her boots? Where's her goats? That's some damp tart with a sword, not a witch.
>>47101218
Go away Pratchett, witches are weird old women who've made pacts with the Devil.
>>47098785
Ya know unless that waist strap is bolted on to her, that's a lousy way to design something with a ring to latch on to.
The moment it gets yanked on half the strap will lift up off her body before she even feels tension.
Purity/sincerity fetish would allow witch hunters to effortlessly BTFO their mind bullshit hexes. Seduction working is more of a sign of a failure of character from the target than skill from the seducer.
>>47098413
>If one nation has soldiers, all the others need them too, which isn't the case with prostitution.
If one nation has affordable accessible sex and another nation doesn't, one may predict a flow of population and resources from one nation to the other. War is not just waged with fire and steel.
>>47098240
Ya know not all males are nymphomaniacs right?
If I see a witch, I'm blammming it in the Emperor's name regardless if she's a real qt3.14
>>47101373
>prostitution is the only source of affordable, accessible sex
>>47098908
If it was just a four panel I bet you anything he'd say "Ok, stand up and take your shirt off slowly" and then plug them right between the eyes.
Then crack the one liner about being gay.
That would be pretty funny.
>>47098413
>killing = murder
Oh great, someone who's brain has been fucked by pacifist propaganda.
>>47101401
For some dudes it is
In the western world only a very small population of dudes live that way, but it's much more common in third world countries to have huge portions of the population that will never marry for economic reasons, those dudes literally have no understanding of courtship or "winning" a mate, prostitutes are their only way of ever receiving physical affection and they are totally fine with that
>>47101443
>Implying you haven't been brainwashed by propaganda yourself
I know I've personally received significantly more propaganda in defense of war than in judgment of war, so in my mind all the evidence points to you being the brainwashed one
>>47100178
All soldiers can't be defending themselves all the time. Someone has to be instigating.
>>47098413
>Historically, both have involved young people being forced into them and taken advantage of, occasionally even children. Both can be options that people with no other work enter into to support themselves, and both can permanently ruin the lives of those they employ. When practiced without proper professional precaution and care, both can result in terribly physical illness or psychological injury. At the same time, there are a rare few individuals who find them empowering and enjoyable professions.
all those things are true of many jobs historically, before the advent of widely avaliable white-collar work. for instance, you could say miners and prostitutes are equivalent by the same line of argument. people were sometimes forced to work in mines to support themselves, including children. working in a mine can injure or kill a person, especially if you don't take professional precautions. some people probably enjoy mining but on the whole it's not fun.
the only tenuous connection is that sex and killing people are regarded as bad in certain circumstances, but that applies to most things. hunting to provide for yourself and your family is considered okay, while killing random pets is frowned on. and however valuable the work of miners, you probably wouldn't want them digging a hole in your back garden.
>>47098283
>>47098438
I mean assuming that the witch they are hunting is just a bad person, a woman can use all those to be pretty devastating, add in magic and she could completely take over a court and rule a nation under the guise of a handmaiden.
>>47098569
>>47099133
I thiink it's something like a "beta" who is whipped by feminism.
>>47101540
>All soldiers can't be defending themselves all the time. Someone has to be instigating.
No, not really. For instance in most modern battles the combatants are not aware of the enemy's position and intent, and therefore when they encounter each other they are both obliged to defend themselves. "Shooting first" is a reaction the aggression of the presence of armed enemy combatants in a warzone.
>>47098569
>>47099133
Hello, resdient /pol/lack here. A nu-male is one step over a beta. Think Wil Wheaton/Anthony Burch types. They are outgoing (mostly on social media), but still are riddled with white guilt, and acting like they are ashamed to be white males. There is a really good image that I dont have, but most of them look alike. Balding, glasses, either scrawny s all hell or pidgy marshmellow bodies, and always a shitty beard that they jokingly attribute to their non-existant masculinity so they can have an excusr not to do sports, camp, shoot, lift, or other actually masculine activities.
*Also see "Cuck".
>>47101443
You're an awful person, peace is good, sociopathic rage monkeys can form fight clubs once the world government ensures all the more necessary aspects of the inevitable socialist paradise are in place, what the fuck is pacifist propaganda? Where would it come from in this world? I have no idea
>>47101521
>Implying you haven't been brainwashed by propaganda yourself
Hm? Nah.
Unless you want to argue "knowing what words mean" is brainwashing, you're flat out mistaken. Equating all killing to murder is as deranged as equating all sex to rape or to prostitution. We're not even on "war is good" or "war is bad," we're still stuck on "not knowing what words mean."
Murder is, per definition, killing performed outside that which is acceptable by the rules (moral, legal, theological, whichever you view as having precedence -- for clarity lets go with legal).
You can certainly argue that humans must never kill other humans, though hopefully you have justification beyond opinions.
But that's not what was being discussed -- it was murder. If soldiery hurts your feelings, there's a legitimate point (that I happen to disagree with) to be argued that society shouldn't sanction killing, or that its wasteful or whatever.The reason I say his brain is fucked by propaganda isn't because he buyed into it, but because he doesn't even realize his position is perfectly backwards. The problem is, in fact, with the existence of murder -- as murder is per definition killing that is not sanctioned by the state, calling all state sanctioned killers "murderers" is inherently incorrect.
>>47098240
Thats retarded.
>>47101770
>>47101521
>being this unable to realize that some human lives have no value
>>47098830
Yes.
>>47098240
I'm pretty sure that if they witches have magical seduction powers, an all-female force of witchhunters would just lead to /u/ stuff, not witches being burned.
>>47100311
Gonna need a link to the uncensored pic there, chap.
>>47102605
link in the bottom right corner anon
>>47098466
>>47098466
>>47101716
>>47101603
I hate the nu- thing and I instantly think someone is dumber for having used it, being a twitter generation fag drinking the 2010s kool aid like fucking sheep.
It's new. And no, fuck your shitty dialect that unironically pronounces it as "noo/nu". Niu/nyu is the way to say it.
This seems like a giant bait thread but isn't that basically Greek witches from classic stories (ala Circe)?
Seems pretty reasonable.
>>47101642
If you're going out somewhere with the intention to kill people if you happen to run into them, it takes some serious leaps to say that it doesn't count as real killing.
>>47098240
By murdering them hard with a hunk of barely sharpened metal you git
>>47102717
Using "nu" instead of "new" is specifically to convey additional information about how you should dislike it because of its label. Your reaction shows that it was transmitted successfully.
>>47103178
>real killing
>murder
You are mentally deficient.
>>47103413
Nobody's been talking about murder since before I got here anon. If they are paid to be somewhere and instructed to kill people if they run across them there, that is being paid to kill.
>>47103459
>instructed to kill people if they run across them
That is not what you are ordered to do, and that does not equate being paid to kill. Soldiers are paid to defend things from aggression, including themselves and other soldiers, and lethal force is just one tool they might use to accomplish that defense.
>>47103671
How are you seriously trying to argue that soldiers just defend things? Sometimes soldiers have to attack shit, and that's okay.
Well they already dominate real society.
>>47100201
You mean teach you Pavlovian triggers so you can drool like a dumb dog at their command?
>>47101251
Very humorous thread.
>>47099400
>Whores can and have ruined families, moral society, and is the general side effect of a seedier, more criminal land.
Spot the abrahamics
>>47098240
>>>
Ok despite all of the beta action going on in this thread, I actually want to know how /tg/ could make this Idea work as a possible plothook?
Personally I figure one way of doing it is a female dominated magocracy with such powers as listed could work if you spun it the right way.
I'd spin it as the witches rule the population through all three means, sex, cunning, and magic. And they actively regulate what children they allow to be born into the nation. all women sit in roles of power, men are kept docile though any means necessary, and any who attempt to rise up are dealt with in the most appropriate way by controlling them or disposing of them.
>>47098780
>What about witches who have been brought up under male dominance?
They grow up into decent little women with wholesome families of their own, like most lucky girls to have healthy father-figures.
>>47110769
>filename
kek
>>47101773
The state is not the highest authority in existence, it's nature. Nature deems that every conscious being has a different worldview. Thus, you telling someone they don't understand a definition of a word when clearly you both have similar aptitudes with the English language means as much to them as their 'backwards' opinions do to you. Using the laws of the state for clarity means you are priorisiting them. The state's laws only reflect the opinions of those who agree with them, which is never the whole population of any given state. Try again.
>>47110543
My issue with the whole ''female dominated society'' where women have all the power and positions of power is the fact that women can't cooperate for shit among each other, making the setting as believable as hot ice. Women also instinctually see men, not other women, as natural figures of authority, making the swapping of the positions between the sexes all that much tricky (at least for women).
Anyone who has ever worked in any female-dominated profession or workplace for a while can confirm this.
I'm not saying you CAN'T have a magical realm with women running a matriarchy with witchcraft and shit - I've done a few Drow settings and Amazons and stuff myself in a fantasy world - but you've got to keep it toned to a level that it doesn't conflict with natural human (female) behaviour, or otherwise it will come across as way too far-fetched.
>>47102266
What makes yours part of the exception, Anon?
>>47110886
I was thinking keeping those in actual power small. Like the witches coven rules the nation, and puts other select women in positions of power beneath them, possibly mix a bit of the amazon idea in as well, as women are trained for battle, and men are only allowed to hold lesser forms of occupation and office.
>>47098586
sauce plox
>>47098413
>If one nation has prostitutes the others don't
Good luck doing anything with your demoralized population
>>47110949
nvrmind, found it
>>47110940
>and men are only allowed to hold lesser forms of occupation and office.
You have to keep in mind that women much prefer to ''rule'' indirectly, via powerful puppets, rather than directly.
Having only minor puppets in miniscular and insignificant positions would be counter intuitive with this fact in mind.
There's a good proverb saying how ''Every girl wants to be a Queen, not the Queen-Regent'' = You can still hold tremendous power and influence over others simply by pulling the strings behind covers, or in the case of the proverb influencing the decision-making of a ruling male monarch, rather than being the monarch.
The prior relieves the female from all blaim and responsibility, the latter pushes great pressure upon her.
>>47098240
So... Bene Gesserit? They did a nice work, ruling the Empire from the shadows.
>>47110769
>Wholesome
Amish detected. Take your meninist rhetoric back to the farm.
>Instinctually
I'd love to believe anything you say but you don't seem to be able to utilise language in an effective manner. Making broad statements about the entire sex is mistake in logic. Just thought I'd let you know.
>>47098240
Wouldn't this lead to an extremely Puritan society? If a woman is sexy or seductive or tries to get involved in men's affairs = witch = burn her.
Women would be encouraged to cover up, and only speak to their husbands. Men would be encouraged not to trust women, disregard advice from women (If it sounds like good advice, she's trying tk ensorcel you) and rule them with an iron fist. You love your wife? You stupid fucker, she's used black magic to warp your mind.
Better beat her until she confesses.
Also, women would not be allowed to inherit, and might be killed when their husband dies. (She might have used sorcery to kill her husband, after all.)
>>47101251
>witches are weird old women who've made pacts with the Devil
Yes they are. Doesn't stop them from wearing boots and herding goats.
>>47111080
That's fucking dark.
>>47111112
That's because it's a logical conclusion based on the OP's retarded premise. Something that stupid wouldn't happen because it's so fucking insane, but this is the situation as it adds up on paper.
>>47098240
>Would witches with archetypical powers of women (sex, manipulation, cunning) completelly dominate a generic fantasy society?
Cut out the fantasy part, women already indirectly dominate modern day society. all institutions that protect against female manipulation have been destroyed.
>I can't imagine how would men/standard RPG witchunters have any chance against them.
>What is celibacy
Male, celibate witchhunters make the most sense.
>>47111182
Technically, Islam and the Indian practice of suttee are exactly like this.
>>47098240
>I can't imagine how would men/standard RPG witchunters have any chance against them.
That's because you're so starved for pussy you can't imagine anything in your life being more important than getting laid.
>>47111313
... and are also based on insane premises themselves.
>>47099773
Not that guy, but yes. Obviously yes.
There are people in this world who are only alive because they haven't been murdered yet. Some people simply need a good killing.
>>47111423
Not him, but from an evolutionary perspective that's literally why men exist. It's also why men are the disposable gender: reproductive reasons.
OPs setting keeps these fundamental facts in mind.
>>47111182
>That's because it's a logical conclusion based on the OP's retarded premise.
>Puritan societies never existed
>>47111449
>Everyone is wrong except the specific incarnation of the culture I grew up in of the past few decades
>>47111469
Puritan societies existed, absolutely, but they were retarded. Fuckers didn't even know how to farm until the natives showed them.
>>47111313
Not to go full /pol/ here, but I don't think hardcore traditional Islamic attitudes are exactly befitting of the 21st Century.
And traditional Indian attitudes aren't much better.
>>47099992
>>47100198
I love you, anon.
>>47111469
>Not him, but from an evolutionary perspective that's literally why men exist. It's also why men are the disposable gender: reproductive reasons.
>OPs setting keeps these fundamental facts in mind.
Human beings are capable of putting aside their physical desires, all this edgy "no one could possibly not want to get laid 24/7" flies in the face of centuries of evidence.
![aquinas[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/0gVeZ3I.jpg "aquinas[1].jpg")
>>47111859
>Human beings are capable of putting aside their physical desires
Yeah, and there's a reason why we call people who can do that saints: because it's not the norm, not by a longshot. We inherrently tend towards obeying our desires, and many if not most people are entirely ruled by their desires, especially in a civilization where moralistic institutions have collapsed or lost their authority.
This is precisely why I believe celibate witchhunters would make more sense than female ones. These celibates have proven themselves to be above their physical urges, and would have higher resistance to the witches OP describes.
tl;dr: Lex peccati
>>47098240
>Be a warrior of justice, tasked with hunting evil and those who would seek to harm the innocent
>Armed with steel, fire and faith, I delve into the cursed forests, haunted mines, eerie swamps and lost depths.
>I live to help the meek, to protect my loved ones, to uphold righteousness
>Everywhere I go I face alluring, buxom young witches
>Every time they slip off their outfit and give me a come hither look
>Every time they get penetratedby my blessed steel blade through their wicked hearts
>I can't help but wonder.. what kind of a faggot would abandon his duty and fuck a (sometimes literal) succubus
This thread is stupid and OP is a kissless virgin.
Ive always been super interested in figuring out what a society ruled by feminine power would look like. Every matriarchal society ive ever seen in fiction has just been role-reversal of power, motivated by the desire to create a society with bangable leaders rather than female leaders.
In the real world, you basically cant have a society built around feminine power because it is internally nurturing focused rather than externally competative, so it just gets steamrolled by the externally competitive. Masculine power has to be the crux of any real society for it to survive.
But fantasy is fantasy and you can handwave that a million ways.
And no, modern western society is not rule through feminine power. Argueing the point is meaningless, because even if it is in fact feminine rule than the essence of that concept would be so diluted through existing in all the chaos complexity and misinformation of the real world that it would lose all meaning. If we distilled it to a meaningful form the way only fiction can, what would it look like?
Would write something up myself but im only on my phone.
>>47098240
Real man have sex only with other man, so I do not see how a group of women no matter how sexy they think they are could manipulate anything.
>>47111922
>This thread is stupid and OP is a kissless virgin.
Yeah, because only real man write self-insert greentext stories about how all the fictional ladies love his dick.
>>47112020
Someone didn't read the spoiler.
>>47112020
Are you fucking retarded? The greentext I posted was exactly the opposite of that. If you think either gender is simplified to such base instincts as sex or hunger with no other internal or external motivations or that using sex appeal to solve all problems will always work, you're literally autistic.
>>47112063
You seem a bit buttflustered. Calm down.
>>47111080
Not really just take jews as an example, your average jew is relatively normal person. The shekel-grubbing, media-manipulating, woman-empowering, hook nose is out of sight and mind. He takes great pains to remain a creature of the shadows and thus a perfect analogy for OPs witch
>>47112104
But stupidity makes me mad
>>47112117
There is no need to be mad about yourself.
>>47112138
Nice burn, I totally got /rekt there. I guess your inability to comprehend reading really is nothing compared to me getting worked up about the fact that scum like you are allowed to exist.
>>47111958
>And no, modern western society is not rule through feminine power. Argueing the point is meaningless
Has anyone on the thread/board done so? Arguing that women run things in the west I mean.
>>47100018
Sounds like yes.
>>47098240
>>47098297
Contemporary psychology actually does point to physical attractiveness as being much more influential than people give it credit for. It even transcends sexual attraction barriers. Straight men will respond to attractive men more positively, straight women with attractive women as well. Obviously if sexual competition comes into play that changes, but barring that particular instance being pretty is a form of low-rent superpower.
>>47098311
>>47098333
That's not necessarily true.
>>47099623
You sound like a Marine.
"Semper Fi, shoot it until it's democratic"
"I solve all my problems by punching them"
>>47098240
>>47098240
>Would witches with archetypical powers of women (sex, manipulation, cunning) completely dominate a generic fantasy society? I can't imagine how would men/standard RPG witchunters have any chance against them. I think witchhunters would be females exclusively.
The land was filled with manipulative, cunning bitches
Only one man, a man of noble birth but modest means could resist their charms
He takes it upon himself to do a great quest to save the world, braving great peril and adversity in the process
>Elliot Quest
>>47116063
Only 4 inches?
>>47119583
Hence the virgin.
>>47119722
kek
>>47111423
>>47111469
>>47111859
>>47111898
Not OP, but you've just stated the reason why his premise makes sense.
Think about it. You're a man who can put his sexual desires aside and do what's right. How do you deal with the manipulated and controlled? Not the witches themselves, but the men they get to do their fighting for them?
And how does that change when they're the ones in charge?
>>47101773
>buyed
For all you prattle on about the meaning of words, you can't even get simple past tense right.
>>47111009
OK then. Let's stop figuring out ways that this can't work and figure out something that can. If women are the dominant gender of a society, they would need ways of keeping men in line, so you could possibly go the whole spartan route, any child born ugly or whatever is killed, men are only used for labor and reproduction, and spellcasting is used to keep them in line one way or another. So then who do the witches make their pact with? perhaps the first woman to rise up against a male dominated society before hand, who has long since passed on, and now has become a being of power to grant it to others who follow in her footsteps. Could this work?
>>47123451
Could be interesting. Add in something like those who first received their powers from he ascended witch are the most powerful with later empowered witches becoming weaker and weaker in terms of the power they receive leading to ambitious young witches seeking to overthrow their elders and absorb their magical powers.
Could lead to interesting plots where scheming witches lead witchhunters to their prey and the witch's former teacher/superior and swooping in at the last minute to take the powers and turn on the hunters.
>>47098240
Well with the right conditions any one with Magic+Manipulation+Cunning could take over. The whole sex appeal would just be a bonus, but a sexy warlock could marry the princess or get a married noble woman wrapped around his finger. So all in all any amoral, charismatic magic user could worm their way into power.
>>47098297
>invincible
No but it makes you a damn good spy and/or assassin.
>>47098879
>Soldiers are not paid to kill people.
Last time I checked we sent a team of trained killers to "take out" Osama.If you are about to say I am complaining about this, fuck you.
>>47120877
>>47098240
You just sorta described the lodge of witches from the Witcher series.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uOuLR1wSuM
>>47103271
>barely sharpened
>>47098240
Get state sanctioned program to make readily accessible super model.
Evil doesn't have a monopoly on sexy women.
![2dd[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/L0Wulvu.jpg "2dd[1].jpg")
>>47129410
>Evil doesn't have a monopoly on sexy women.
Oh geez
>The presence of witches and succusluts eases a theocratic coup
>The new theocratic regime starts summoning sexy angels
>These angels are so perfect, so pure, so beautiful, and so addicted to the cocks of their assigned men, that the men simply cannot be bothered with other women
>The avances of witches are universally rejected with "Get out of here, slut. I'm happily married!"
>Normal women start complaining too because men can no longer be bothered with them
>Human women go extinct
>A new human-angel master race emerges
>>47129428
I was just thinking beautify the normal women so people can be happy with their wife and ignore the temptations of the witches.
It's basic economics. We desire sex based on our biological instinct to fuck and continue the species. If a bunch of evil assholes have a majority of the supply and there are a deficit of good sexy women then we just need to increase the supply to counter our opposition's monopoly.#makewaifusreal
>>47098413
>and that soldiers are more useful to the state than whores are.
Capone and his ilk wouldn't have been so powerful if this had been true before industrialized militaries.
>>47098240
No.
Cause in the End a man with a big enough dick could beat them.
>>47129268
That makes them pretty obvious actually. Women like that becomes power-players. Politically power-players are always suspected of under-handed politicking.
>>47099019
Of course
>>47098240
>Would witches with archetypical powers of women (sex, manipulation, cunning) completelly dominate a generic fantasy society? I can't imagine how would men/standard RPG witchunters have any chance against them. I think witchhunters would be females exclusively.
You seem like a well adjusted person.
>>47098413
That's the stinkiest load of bullshit I've read all year.
>>47129696
This is just as magical realm as succubus fuckers.
>>47110917
>implying anything has any value
Objectively nothing means anything. Luckily we're subjective beings and pretty good at deluding ourselves
For fucks sake mods/janitors. An obvious bait thread for both /pol/ and tumblr has been allowed to reach 204 posts and you guys still haven't nuked it yet. Do your fucking jobs!
>>47129828
You must be new here
>>47129447
>It's basic economics.
Yeah, 'cause nowhere in the history of humanity has anyone ever wanted more. I mean, whenever anyone gets enough they stop, right? There's never any social standing associated with having more than the next guy, and people never behave destructive or self-destructive in order to advance their social standing.
Right?
>>47098891
This is why wizards don't rule D&D worlds.
>>47129835
No, just from a time when /tg/ wasn't constantly getting flooded with bait threads. Maybe it was because less assholes posted bait, maybe it was because the mods/janitors did their jobs back then but what matters is that the board was kept on-topic.Yes I'm bitter that my janitor application wasn't accepted.
>>47110886
>assumptions
They did just fine in China, Persia, and Egypt. They do just fine in agrarian socieities as well.
Women not cooperating is a thing in Western society because of monarcy and aristocratic power. (Note I did not say patriarchy, because that's not the issue - women are both commodity and hotline to power in monarchies and the like because their children inherit.)
>>47098240
>Gays guys and asexual autists become the most successful witch hunters in the world
>>47129885
>Yes I'm bitter that my janitor application wasn't accepted.
Holy shit, you're mad about not being able to do it for free? That's a new low, man. And probably this is a good thing, you sound like you have the potential to become the kind of janitor that drops permabans on people he disagrees with.
>>47129919
wtf are you on about?
>>47130020
Janitors can't ban, only mods can. And most forum mods moderate for free.
>>47110886
>Work in a government department that's less than 10% male
>Spend my days largely segregated down in my basement office as the gatekeeper to archives and inter-departmental communication
>Spend some time topside
>It's like an all-girls boarding school
>Lunch break rolls around and they break off into cliques
>Every week one of the cliques alienates a member who got too uppity and upset the power dynamic
>They cut each other to ribbons with slurs, rumors and insults
>Find a group of them standing around, not-so-quietly pointing and laughing at an alienated unpopular group member
>They undercut each other for promotions
>Actually try to get the "losers" fired
>Retreat back down into my office and really appreciate my working environment for once
>>47130070
>who got too uppity
What does that even mean? I'm a non-English speaker btw...
>>47098240
Gay men would also work for witchhunters, as would the bogglingly insane. Would you want pic related coming for your blood?
>>47125999
Sounds like an awesome plot hook to me. So then. We have a nations patron deity, the backbone of some history, and the current setup of a government and how it is run, and the possibility of the council of witches all vying for power against one another seeking to form a pact with the progenitor of their nation and form a pact with her.(Perhaps something like the Silver Flame faith ala Eberron). I'm cautious to go with the employment of witch hunters by the witches themselves, because then we're getting dangerously close to Faerun Drow society with the constant backstabbing, though I suppose it would happen from time to time, and not be the norm, since the nation's founding i suppose would consider it possibly taboo for a witch to harm another witch. that could keep it from only being the purview of those extremely ambitious and devious at that. Sound good so far??? Thoughts, feelings, additions anyone?
>>47130117
>Not realizing that is an incubus worshiping blackguard
>>47130116
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=uppity
>>47130116
Arrogant, thinks they're better than they are. Short for 'up themselves', as in 'head stuck up their own ass'
>>47130065
>Janitors can't ban, only mods can.
Then what do janitors even do?
>>47130169
Go "Eh ban this faggot."
>>47130133
This is >>47125999 here.
It looks good so far. Thinking about it I agree that the witches utilizing hunters should be uncommon. It appears that we have the basics of the witch nation (Would Covenant be too on the nose for a name?) but how would that particular nation interact with the rest of the world? I'm thinking that the witch nation would seek to create puppet states in the surrounding areas but never quite be able to get a solid hold on the entirety of another country due to all the power struggles preventing anywhere besides the witch nation from being held onto permanently. As an explanation for why a nation of powerful magic users haven't taken over the entire continent perhaps (in addition to the internal power struggles) witches are only able to access their full powers the closer they are to the spot where the goddess witch ascended which would be located in the center of the country with the strongest witch(s?) occupying the center of this locus of power? Should the witches be overseen by a single one of their numbers or would the head of their council be a Hecate Sisters like triumvirate? Any feedback would be appreciated since I think I'm onto something here...
(I really want to work Walpurgisnacht and familiars into this somehow.)
>>47129919
>They did just fine in China, Persia, and Egypt.
where they were also commodities? there are examples of powerful, independent, praiseworthy or whatever women for western monarchies as well. Doesn't make any of these cultures woman-friendly
