Which is the better blue deck? Grixis, or Jeskai?
>>47095887
How many shocks did you pull?
>>47096072
Grixis
>>47096072
Jeskai
>>47096106
>>47096115
Cancer
>>47096072
I'd say Grixis.
But on that note, what is the best Jeskai version?
only Burn + Snappy or Kiki + Resto? And where do Dank Dwellers fit into this?
>>47096097
A total of none. Got a Sacred Foundry though.
It wasn't a great pull over all but got some fun stuff. I'm going to play competitively anyway.
>>47096072
RUG
:^)
Anyone here use Pucatrade
Is it legit, I got a few cards that are worth money but it seems like it'd easier to use that
>>47096137
>How many shocks did you pull?
>A total of none. Got a Sacred Foundry though.
I made my first modern deck. H..how'd i do?
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/trippin-3/
>vintage type 1
>legacy type 1.5
>standard type 2
>modern ????
What did wotc mean by this?
>>47095949
Decay destroys Daybreak Coronet, Ethereal Armors and any other dangerous auras
>>47096241
For Mythics I got a Giant Adephage, Aurelia the Warleader, Lazav Dmir Mastermind, and a Domri Rade.
No where near as good as my pull for the SoI release. From a booster box and fat pack ended up with 2 Arlin Kords, and 2 Jaces. The night before at FNM I pulled a Nahiri and an Arlin Kord in my 2 packs for coming top half. And the week before that at pre-release ended up with a foil Sorin.
>>47096253
0-3 drop in any decent meta.
>>47096311
>Doesn't know what shocklands are
>Thinks mythics are automatically good
Welcome, newfriend.
>>47096311
Innistrad, Dark Ascension, and Shadows all have the best chance for good shit with the DFCs tbqh family
Last week I bought a booster pack for shits and giggles and pulled a Jace, Abbey, and a foil Skin Invasion
>>47096329
Never claimed I wasn't new, friend.
Just realised I think I might have been thinking of fetch lands. I haven't gotten into Modern properly yet so I am still trying to learn the lingo. Shock/Pain/Fetch lands, it is still very much greek to me.
>>47096347
No worries. We're all new at some point.
>>47096347
Build eldrazi taxes
Cheaper than buying multiple boxes. And you interact with your opponent
Where does the fun come from in Modern? I'm a big fan of brewing decks or looking at what's available and making something that functions. Isn't the whole point of Modern to pick a deck from the lists, tweak it to your meta, and then play it until you get bored? Why not just play Legacy if you want to do high powered pilot fights?
Remember - Gifts Ungiven into Iona/Unburial should be banned.
>>47096648
because they need to feel good about something
>>47096648
Because spending the amount of money that it would take to get into legacy is dumb paper magic when less and less people are playing it irl. Online it is different but instead of buying a legacy deck in paper it is better to just pay for a hooker or something.
>>47096683
>what is clip wings
>>47096648
This:
>>47096842
Legacy is a dying format in paper while being more expensive. Due to Modern also being (half-heartidly) curated by WotC it still promises more interactive games.
>>47097011
>modern
>interactive
Haha nigga you serious?
>>47096137
>none
>Got a Sacred Foundry
What
>>47097011
Must suck to not have a thriving legacy scene and no job.
>>47096683
>total of 8 mana that gets shat on by counterspells, graveyard hate or simply having 2 different colors of removal
It hasn't been anywhere near dominant or oppressive at any point of modern. Why would it need to be banned?
What is the best / the worst set in your opinion? Let's say you can pick from M12 till now
>>47097282
Best: Innistrad
Worst: Dragon's Maze
This is really easy with such a narrow limitation.
>>47097281
Because people are salty over combos. If you need any more proof that modern babbus get ass devestated over combos look no further than last thread and the massive "waah twin was oppressive because I had to interact" derailment that took over the thread about half way through.
>>47097322
>BFZ
Why? I mean, I'm not playing competitive so as a casual player with friends we had a lot of fun with this set and entire block
>>47097282
From M12? Best is Return to Ravnica, worst is BFZ by a mile. That entire set is Homogenous the Gathering.
>>47096347
>doesn't know the Greek
It's like you can't even recite the Greek alphabetbackwards
Should I invest into Grixis Control? I wont be able to get Snapcasters for a while (i'm considering using Young Pyromancers instead) but i already have playsets of Bloodstained Mire and Polluted Delta. Or should I rather look at getting another deck?
>>47096226
I've always been interested, how quickly do things ship? How does card condition get factored in?
>>47097816
Shipping is painfully slow, hiw it takes 2 weeks to get out of their parents basement and into a mailbox is beyond me. Cards are all requires to be NM, but rarely are, the better people will message you and ask if you want a SP or worse card at a discount, the scumbags (most people) will just send LP cards anyways.
Modern : The Sideboarding.
This format is dumb as fuck. Either you draw your sideboard hate and win, or your opponent draw his sideboard hate and win.
If you both draw your sideboard hate. You're in for the durdliest game of magic you ever played.
Shit is boring.
>>47098243
How many more threads are you going to post this meme in?
>>47096136
>But on that note, what is the best Jeskai version?
jeskai nahiri is the best jeskai list atm
>And where do Dank Dwellers fit into this?
this is the best dankdwellers list.
>>47097011
HOLY FUCK BBAHAHAHHAHA this is what non-legacy players believe. Legacy is so much more interactive than modern.
>>47096347
>>47096311
>>47096137
>B U Y I N G B O O S T E R S
>>47098615
This deck looks like a piece of shit. I cannot think of where to even start
>>47098615
>crucible mb
>without a single GQ or tec in the 75
>thinks he gets to ever resolve boom against Tron
I think you need to re-evaluate your life, anon.
What do I do, I have a RWB midrangeish deck, and I am thinking of breaking it up into 2 separate decks, one kinda WB eldrazi processors, and the other being a RB vampire aggro deck.
>>47098848
Both final decks and the initial deck sound bad though anon, list of pre-deck pls
>>47098867
I'm at work right now so I can't type the deck lists up, they are mainly for fnm playing, they can't hold a candle to any tier 1 deck, but I can usually scrape out a decent record so I am happy with them.
>>47098615
>playing land destruction without smallpox
F U CK
>>47098802
>>47098818
been winning irl and modo for several weeks. naysay all you want, i'm just going to keep farming nerds for store credit.
What do you guys think about this card in a burn deck? I Get that as a topdeck it's kinda mediocre, but if you're at that point in the game, its going to be pretty big the next turn anyway
>>47097011
This must be bait.
>>47098948
Why would burn run this over a burn spell that deals 3? There's enough burn that deals 3 that this seems a little slow. You don't need cantrips, you need to end the game before they can stabalize
>>47098932
Sure about that?
>>47096910
what the fuck
this is modern general
>>47096683
Lmao what a cuck. I'll bet he wasn't complaining about combo when twin was a deck.
>>47099056
Because lots of burn spells arent nearly as efficient as lightning bolt I guess. I'm going to run it in a few matches and maybe see how it feels, since having it in your opening hand could give you some extra legs turn 4-5, where card draws are pretty important.
>>47098948
Am I missing something with the wrong art there?
>>47098970
It's /mtg/ bingo.
"Legacy is dead", "Modern is an Eternal format", "Printing good creatures is ruining magic", "Standard is boring but modern is fun", "Just play pauper" etc.
>>47099242
Meaning that there are answers to Iona in non-black. Hell, Rending Volley+bolt would get there.
>>47099540
Or you know maybe, Liliana?
>>47099107
I think he is talking about xmage, cuckatrice or the practice room on mtgo
He doesn't know he was facing only shitbrewers like him.
>>47096648
>Where does the fun come from in Modern?
Winning?
>Isn't the whole point of Modern to pick a deck from the lists, tweak it to your meta, and then play it until you get bored?
I'm not aware that that's the point. Personally, I play most of the decks, zero in one which ones feel right and then play 4-5 decks that I feel comfortable with. Since I'm only playing once a week, I've yet to get bored, particularly since there are meta shifts every quarter or two.
>Why not just play Legacy if you want to do high powered pilot fights?
Because I'm not interested in traveling 300+ miles to play paper magic.
>>47098243
>Shit is boring.
Then don't play Modern. And go bother someone else.
>>47096072
So I made this list without playtesting it at all and went to my local shop and beat the full power mirror (we're both Abzan) and I thought this deck was fun as shit.
It's a bit on the budget side because I traded to get most of my deck and I'm pretty much out of trade bait so I'd have to buy the rest, so for now this is it:
Lands (24)
4x Windswept Heath
3x Bloodstained Mire
3x Overgrown Tomb
2x Godless Shrine
1x Temple Garden
2x Woodland Cemetery
2x Isolated Chapel
1x Stirring Wildwood
3x Swamp
2x Plains
1x Forest
Creatures (16)
4x Strangleroot Geist
2x Fleecemane Lion
2x Courser of Kruphix
4x Siege Rhino
2x Sorin, Solemn Visitor
2x Tasigur
Sorceries (12)
3x Inquisition of Kozilek
2x Duress
3x Lingering Souls
2x Timely Reinforcements
2x Painful Truths
Instants (8)
4x Path to Exile
2x Dismember
2x Abzan Charm
What are some secret sideboard techs you guys can recommend? Preferably cheap because I don't have much expendable income because I have a trip soon.
>>47099685
Can't cast her after she's naming black.
>>47100005
I'd recomend adding 4 tarmogoyf and 4 Liliana
>>47096072
I just assembled all the cards for my first Modern deck after months of trading. Can I get some feedback/general tips?
4x Delver of Secrets
4x Young Pyromancer
4x Monastery Swiftspear
4x Stormchaser Mage
4x Serum Visions
4x Gix Probe
4x Lightning Bolt
3x Remand
3x Mana Leak
2x Spell Snare
2x Electrolyze
2x Vapor Snag
2x Sleight of Hand
6x Island
4x Mountain
4x Shivan Reef
2x Steam Vents
2x Sulfur Falls
My intuition after playing a few games is to cut two of my Stormchasers, but I'm not sure what to add.
>>47100523
oh yeah, sideboard:
2x Forked Bolt
2x Staticaster
2x Flashfreeze
2x Hurkyl's Recall
2x Dispel
2x Gut Shot
3x Spell Pierce
Maybe add relic of progenitus? Not sure what to take out
>>47100523
I think Izzet just really can't compete in the modern format because blue kind of sucks in modern.
I wish you the best of luck though.
>>47100556
Thanks, I was worried about that. Only way to find out is to play more at my LGS though
I'm thinking of going Temur or Grixis once I trade for some fetches.
>>47099304
It looks like it has potential, it could work. Might be better suited for a U/R prowess deck though, vapor snag into needle drop seems cool
>>47100596
but snag doesn't do damage
>>47100577
I played grixis control until I just couldn't compete with any deck, so I recently built the budget Abzan through trading (my deck list here >>47100005)
Grixis is probably your best bet, but Jeskai could be very fucking annoying too.
I think Temur isn't that good however, and blue really is just going to be remand and card draw while the other 2 colors do all the work.
>>47100410
There's nothing funny about being a poor little fag
>>47100646
What do you add with Jeskai?
>>47100523
nice list but change the stormchasers for snapcasters and add two blood moons c: .Most lists on mtgtop have them
>>47100707
Path to Exile, Boros Charm, lightning helix, shit like that would help you a lot.
There's a ton you can add but that's off the top of my head
>>47100707
helix, and saint geist
>>47100814
Trying to get some snapcasters through puca right now! Blood moon is something I'll pick up when I've concluded I like the deck archetype enough to spend a lot of money on it
>>47100821
>>47100829
Geist is spicy, I like it. I've got a few helixes so I could try it out sooner than later
>>47100874
In an aggro/burn heavy meta, lightning helix is the bee's fucking knees
Make burn cry
>>47100523
Delverbro here.
You could trim a land, 18-19 is usually a good amount but that's counting fetch, I would try 19 if you've been getting flooded. If not stick to 20, but definitely test out 19 a ton.
16 creatures can work, that's usually the cap for delver; imo Yung P could go down to 3, since having doubles of him can feel bad, although a Stormchaser being cut works too. Grim lavamancer is a cool 1of in delver but he needs fetch to truly make him degenerate.
I personally like seeing 2 storm chaser over 2 pyro in hand but imo Pyro is the better card, keeping 16 creatures is by no means bad though.
The 2 Sleight of Hand can be cut imho.
tl;dr
-1 land
-2 sleight
maybe -1 pyro/chaser
Brb but I can give other suggestions
>>47096072
>blue
>good
Green is the best color in Modern.
>>47101163
I'll cut to 19, then to 18 once I get fetches.
Between pyro and stormchaser, I think i'd rather cut a stormchaser. Lavamancer is a good idea
What do you think should be swapped for the 2 sleight? +1 remand +1 mana leak?
4x Delver of Secrets
4x Spellstutter sprite
4x Snapcaster Mage
4x Thing In The Ice
4x Thought Scour
2x Spell Snare
4x Vapor Snag
4x Remand
4x Psionic Blast
4x Cryptic Command
18x Island
4x Mutavault
:^)
>>47101681
Disgusting
>>47101223
>better=good
Shit tastes better than bleach but that doesn't mean shit tastes good
>>47101968
have u even drank bleach before?
Why do you drop in FNM? Isn't playing the game itself fun?
>>47101313
I really like the 3-3 remand/leak split, and the 2 snares, I think you have a solid counterspell package going.
I'd do 19 lands and test further. it's hard to measure the benefits of 18 land topdraws vs 19 land openers but 19 is playing safe.
Again it's hard to tell which could use a trim, the pyros or the stormchasers, or even if it needs a trim; if you do add a lavamancer I would find one to trim. Test a bunch and find out which one feels better in multiples in hand.
With 3 slots open, one of the most mvp cards I've found is a single Izzet charm.
Delver is good, ignore anyone who says otherwise, but needs to work a bit harder to get wins. This is mostly because the tempo game requires the right card at the right time for a given situation, and Izzet can act as spot removal or a counterspell, and can even turn that pesky extra land into more gas.
As for the two other slots, I've been pretty fond of a mainboard Roast. It is almost always a Terminate-lite imo.
The other slot you can fill with whatever you feel you need, be it a Forked Bolt, a Vapor Snag, a Dispel, even a burst lightning
Personally I really like 1 Izzet charm (and 1 Roast ain't bad but some may disagree), so try replacing the Sleights with those, and then figure out the land/creature replacements after.
>>47102071
I hate that shit.
I also hate getting "byes" because nigger I paid to play magic not watch magic
>>47102071
I hate it too. There's a guy at my store that drops as soon as he loses a match.
>>47102071
I sometimes drop in large tournaments one of the shops here does on the weekends. It usually has really good prizes like Lilianas and Goyfs so tons of people show up and it goes on forever. After something like 10 hours, I just want to get some sleep and go home.
>>47098615
I'm actually interested in this.
What are the bad matchups?
Why no Kiki?
is torpor orb worth side board slots again since chord decks will just kill cages? or just stick a cage and hope for the best? Orb also stops the random kiki deck, but cage can come in vs gifts, snapcaster based, etc where orb cant.
side boarding is difficult right now, as some decks will always need siding against (infect/burn/afinity) that take up the majority of slots and then the 5 or so slots left are 'do I side for x tier 2 deck or the other tier 2 deck (tron/scapeshift/gifts/boggles/reanimator/ad nausiumn/etc) and going to a larger tournament it feels like you just need to get lucky.
>>47103163
Why does nobody understand orb?
How does it not stop Snapcaster?
>>47103163
Chord decks can still kill orb with qasali pridemage.
>>47103293
true
>>47103367
also true
expecting allot of chord combo at the next event, and cant decide on the best sb hate for it.
>>47103410
What deck are you playing?
>>47103509
GRTron variant
it has enough wipes its not a terrible match up, but losing to EOT redcap combo or something similar is annoying.
>>47103538
how about warping wail? useful in other matchups too
>>47103769
thats what I am currently boarding, it works ok.
Why is better to nerf combo decks by taking away their consistency instead of their speed?
Not only only does this hurt the already weak fair blue decks, but it also leads to more unfun games.
Combo decks that consistently win on turn 4 would be better for the format than ones that inconsistently win on turn 2 or 3.
Take Infect for example you take away their Mutagenic Growth and/or Glistener Elf and give them Preordain and Ponder, This would leave the deck at a similiar power level, but would not only make the the deck more fair but also help completly underrepresented decks like Delver.
>>47097282
Best Innistrad
Worst is BFZ by such a wide margin I get angry just thinking about it
I'm going to playtest this bad boy in Mardu tokens with Lingering Souls and Young Pyro, wish me luck
>>47104290
Mardu tokens is already a piece of shit. I don't see him doing it any good
>>47097382
>>47104274
What made BFZ so bad?
I don't really keep up with sets much anymore
>>47104317
>Mardu tokens is already a piece of shit.
I havent really played with it. i just realized I have all the pieces to make it. why is it so bad?
>>47104375
>abilities that are only viable in its own block
>Ally subtype
>5 color ally decks a shit
>Eldrazi
>Ingest/Process
>Chase Expeditions
>>47104427
Eldrazi, devoid, ingest, and process are fun.
Why is Kolaghans command STILL legal in modern? Shits broken
>>47104290
I already tried this a while ago. The problem is you lack a catch-all answer like what Abrupt Decay is to GBx.
>>47104578
is this b8?
>>47104427
Oh ya
Devoid was just fucking stupid
>>47102669
>tfw drove 5 hours to comic con
>get there at noon
>there is a mini masters tournament about to start at the hotel
>get bye first round and third round my opponent left.
ended up winning the whole thing but shit nigga I just wanted to play magic
>>47104694
I know that feel, anon
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/curse-of-curse-decks/
Making a curse deck for Friday the 13th and wanted to see what other cards I can add.
Are there any good spells that prevent enchantment destruction?yes I know Curse decks are unviable as fuck but they have a special place in my heart
>>47104631
He only bait here is (You)
>>47104710
>http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/curse-of-curse-decks/
anon, not that I dont think curses are cool but I think you should make a casual thread for this
>>47104586
makes sense
>>47104586
What about that new vindicate that makes you lose 3 life? Has a sad sorin on it.
>>47104989
I dont think its very good in this case because you are already losing life to thoughtseize and bitterblossom. plus its 3 mana
this is what Ive come up
>>47105112
Nice curve lol
>>47105112
Isn't mentor better? Personally would run lightning helix to ease aggro/burn matchups, but seems solid enough. You will probably scoop against tron tho.
>>47096683
>only blocking out your username
You're a faggot.
>>47105241
Hello maestersinger1!!
>>47096683
>conceding when you have outs.
Jund player is an idiot.
>>47096683
>blocking out your name
Watch for those anonomoose hacks friend!! They might send you a picture of a dick lmao
>>47105542
What beats a resolved iona on black?
Inb4 clip wings
>>47105596
He could swing all out with ravine, deal 5 assuming you block ravine, or you block bob and tec edge the ravine next turn taking 7. Either way, you'd swing for 7, leaving him at 2, which means he can draw a bolt and swing back for lethal.
Assuming he's running 4 bolts there was a chance he could have won, not to mention the possibility of drawing a destructive revelry instead of a bolt too.
tl;dr he goofed
>>47100005
Think about Thalia + painful truths, since you're already running the truths
>>47105033
you do gain a fair amount of life back with Helix and you can play soulfire grand master to make your other burn spells heal too, I tried a Mardu midrange-ish deck with 4 bolt 4 helix and a couple soulfires + dark confidant, never had an issue with self damage. You can also use the w/b lifelink manland, that helps a little.
>>47105112
Rabblemaster probably needs to go
The tokens come into play tapped by the way so Intangible Virtue doesn't affect them when they come in. Mentor would be better here if you really needed a 3 drop creature. Pyro should probably be enough since you already have lingering souls.
>>47106134
>The tokens come into play tapped
What are you talking about?
>>47106177
my bad, was thinking of hero of bladehold's ability where they come in tapped and attacking. Rabblemaster forces them to attack but they do come in untapped.
Still a little slow though and kinda easy to kill.
>>47104920
I still want to use it in a Modern game at my FLGS, even if I get steamrolledfinished it, please stop me before I make a terrible mistake
>>47105946
To lose 4 life and draw 4 cards?
Apparently, Ad Nauseam is 6% of the meta. Does that mean that Ad Nauseam has finally ascended the title of being a meme deck?
>>47097382
BFZ is underrated. BFZ atleast had ulamog and some strong eldrazi cards for legacy. Dragon Gate was much worse as it only had one good card in it.
How long do fair blue decks have to suck in Modern before he gets unbanned?
A year? I guess it makes sense to invest in a playset if the current trend continues for the next few months.
In opinion every unban that doesn't have a big impact makes more unbans more likely, so it's really not that far fetched.
>>47106598
It's still a meme deck, but it's a good meme deck
>>47103538
>not playing the superior mono green eldrazi tron
So I'm trying to make a control deck and I want some defenders, it's only a casual deck (Azorius),
What 1 or 2 drop U/W/UW Defenders or Walls are there?
>>47106758
Implying modern will be around long enough for ban lists to matter
I'm going to the Modern Showdown tomorrow at GP NY. This will be my first trip to a GP.
is there anything that I should be prepared for?
>>47105112
Mentor is a far better 3 drop for your deck than rabblemaster.
>>47106540
>wait I have effects
>Leyline of Sanctity
>ok go
>>47106555
Yeah with moderate life gain the life loss doesn't really matter. Plus it taxes your opponent
What's a better card in modern, Banister Priest or Fiend Hunter?
>>47106916inb4 gtfo to casual
Wall of omens, judge's familiar
>>47107062
>banister
Fuck auto-correct, and also me. Banisher priest*
>>47106957
are you preregistered for the modern showdown? do you have multiple copies of your decklist filled out? do you have new sleeves (and back-up sleeves?) is your deck in a wholly separate box from your other cards? do you have snacks and water and deodorant? do you have friends to enjoy the experience with?
>>47107099
>are you preregistered for the modern showdown?
Yep
>do you have multiple copies of your decklist filled out?
Nope
>do you have new sleeves (and back-up sleeves?)
I have backup sleeves but no new sleeves
is your deck in a wholly separate box from your other cards?
Yep
>do you have snacks and water and deodorant?
Yep, Yep, Nope
>do you have friends to enjoy the experience with?
Yep
>>47107159
whats your deck?
>>47107243
Burn
>>47107035
But isn't it still draw 3 lose 3 because I'm not a four color deck?
>>47107099
>>47107159
It's really sad when you actually have to mention deodorant. It's even sadder when the answer is "Nope".
>>47107249
>>47107249
Do you run Birb?
I haven't seen your list, just pulled up and checked your thread.
>>47107257
>Not bathing
>>47107265
Both are required.
>>47107265
>Not bathing AND wearing deodorant
>Not wearing Cologne too
You're all faggots.
>>>/fa/
>>47107264
My list is here
>>47100005
>>47107407
Run Goyf and Liliana
No really.
>>47104710
>http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/curse-of-curse-decks/
no triskadeckaphobia? i feel like that was literally the card for this deck
>>47107249
Ah I saw the bloodstained mire and thought you had 4 colors for some reason
It's kinda hilarious everyone in "The Girlfriend Bracket" is a transgender. Super ridiculous they're on the community super league.
>>47109079
I would actually be pretty depressed if I was an actual girl in the bracket and I had to play a bunch of trannies
Naya burn with or without Nacatls?
>>47107689
I don't have that money anon
>>47109318
if you're going naya why wouldn't you just throw nacatls in? They're a huge draw as to why people even go naya.
>>47109432
>if you're going naya why wouldn't you just throw nacatls in?
Its a terrible draw after turn 2, they force you to take more damage to fetch, and they force you to fetch for a green source first.
>>47102935
>What are the bad matchups?
it is aggressively medium against tron and burn
>Why no Kiki?
i had a couple for a minute. mana is not conducive to triple red.
>>47099107
i appreciate the effort, champ
>>47103934
No that would kill the deck, it would become unplayable.
>>47110120
how is tron a bad matchup? you are a land destruction deck
>>47107062
i haven't played with either but i'd imagine fiend hunter surviving pyroclasm is better than 1 extra power.
also consider that fiend hunter has strictly better art
>>47109432
every time i play against burn i'm really glad when they run nacatl because my deck can actually interact with creatures
>>47107062
Fiend Hunter. But that's me being a fan of Wescoe's latest PT deck.
>>47096072
>Grixis
>Jeskai
Both have Red. Both are equally worthless.
Go BUG or go home.
>>47110757
His only LD is BoomBust, which is far too slow/low impact without Flagstones and he has nothing else that's relevant beyond the 3 Stony Silence in the side.
Why is Mardu midrange not played?
It get's almost everything, disruption, tokens, best removal spells, life, admittedly weak two drop slot, but probably the best sideboard access in modern.
No goyf? Abrupt Decay? SCOOZE? I honestly don't get why it's not a thing sometimes.
>>47111887
you can still fire it off on turn 3 with a fetch, which is fine on the play against tron
>i'm going to hold priority for two actions
>cast boom, target mesa and your temple
>in response, i sacrifice mesa
>pass priority
>>47112720
So what? T3 Karn is already gg for you or if you're on the play then the Tron player will just fetch the same land again with map or scrying the next turn when you have (most likely) no follow up play other than K-Command or Resto which don't matter one bit.
>>47112602
How do you close out a game?
>jund
Goyf, Liliana, manlands
>junk
*/*s from voice, goyf, Liliana, manlands, combo
>Grixis
Kalitas, snap-bolt
>Mardu
Yes.
Is UG infect good? What about BG infect?
>>47112817
No beaters?
>>47096226
It's worth it if you can get rid of your points quickly. I feel like the site is going to crash real soon. It's hard to get eternal cards though
>>47112854
Exactly. Mardu doesn't have a reliable way to close out a game very quickly
The price of Secure the Wastes has spiked for its use in some decks in Modern or just for the results of PT SoI?
>>47113444
Pretty sure its mostly demand from Standard.
It should get cheaper after it rotates.
>>47113444
Sick trips.
Yeah turns out the card is insane in esper control, jeskai control and a few midrange decks. I expect it to hit 30 dollars, if you can spec pick up like 5
>>47113314
This is a reason I prefer painful truths in the deck over bob. If you flip an Ajani or batterskull, you're just fucked versus aggro. Painful truths is a better card in my opinion.
>>47113444
GW Tokens picking up along with Seasons Past and Bant Company.
I'm thinking up a Mardu list, let me know if I missed anything.
Spot removal: Path, Bolt, Terminate, Helix, murderous cut
Wraths: Wrath of God, pyroclasm, damnation, anger of the gods
Card advantage/ discard: Painful truths, Bob, thoughtseize, inquisition of Kozilek
Planeswalkers: Really any walkers can be good, but Ajani Vengeant and LotV in particular
Utility spells and good stuff: Lingering souls, k command, Mardu charm
Big guys (For you): Gurmag Angler, Kalitas, Obzedat Ghost Council
The one department I think it's kind of lacking is Big guys and ways to close, you guys have any ideas? Also Tasigur just seems worse when we can't activate, and delve is harder with no cantrips.
>>47096253
what's with the signets??
apart from that, I think with a budget like yours I'd just stick with good old-fashioned affinity, i.e. stop trying to prank in blightsteel. The decks alright tho
>>47096340
you are the luckiest man alive confirmed.
you guys should really use untap.in
Big zoo or kiki chord?
Big zoo pros:
Easier to play
Already got like 70% of the creaturebase and spells
Aggressive
Cons:
Still missing a goyf and 2 hierarchs
Probably worse in a meta with topthers
Streamline. Less room to play
Chord pros:
Looks way more interesting
Theoretically incredibly versatile and adaptable to local meta
Presumably won't ever get boring
Cons:
Hard to play
Still missing all the chords and some restos
Which naya memerange deck do I build?!
I don't know if this will work with path and ghost quarter floating around, also haven't got around to card counts yet
Creatures: llanowar elves, avacyn's pilgrim, elves of deep shadow, nest invader, dwynen's elite
Spells: shamble back, backon apparition, sylvan scrying, aphotic wisp, tainted strike
Win con: westvale abbey
>>47114346
Are thopter decks even good? Control looks as weak as ever.
I just noticed that the price for Nahiri, the Harbinger kind of exploded from about 6€ to 16€. Is she suddenly getting played very often or why did the price rise this much?
>>47115459
Standard control lists mostly, sees some play in Boohooland's Kikichord.
>>47114535
Not sure, I know alot locals are playing it though
>>47114346
>Cons:
>Hard to play
No. It really isn't. How is being able to grab exactly what you need somehow making the deck difficult to pilot?
>>47115474
Why the duck are you always calling him boohoogland? So fucking what I'd he doesn't like people sitting on the Internet for no reason, so fucking what if he's gotten fucked over in tournaments and complained about it, every fucking person complains sometimes, you'd do the exact same thing.
>>47115761
What makes a deck difficult to play?
>>47115761
Because at any given moment you have several decisions to make. Sure it's not hard to pilot since you just grab what you want, finding the optimal line of play in an as versatile deck isn't something I imagine as too easy. Watching people in scg opens pilot it often showed me lines of plays that were just ridiculously more efficient than what the obvious play would've been.
>>47102071
>prize support only for people who go positive.
I honestly don't blame people when they go to shit stores.
>>47113297
>I feel like the site is going to crash real soon
thats what you guys have been saying for months on end
Anybody have experience playing the r/g eldrazi deck without eye? I'm looking for a new deck and this seems like a good one.
>>47116644
Why not play GR tron instead?
>Nahiris are now $23 and I need 2
>Kalitas is almost $30 and I need 2-3
Fuck, why do I ever wait. At least I got a set of tar pits for $64
>>47114346
Kiki chord is easily my favorite deck to play. Really fun and interactive gameplay.
>>47115459
>>47115459
Her +2 mitigates the downside of using a complete play set, and she's finding a home in all 3 major formats. She's average in standard, but only because there's nothing in the current sets that can be fetched and reliably win the game through her ultimate. The closest thing probably being Atarka.
>>47116726
It's cheaper, and idk about tron. Seems tron doesn't have the same punch it once did.
>>47116726
Since Tron doesn't have inevitability anymore playing midrange is more viable against the whole field since you're basically immune to land hate while having game vs aggro. TKS and Smasher still hurt control.
>>47116900
>play mana dorks
>fetch combo
>interactive
Kek.
>>47098243
Mad because bad
Anyone have a subscription to Quiet Speculation?
>>47117153
Tron doesnt have the strength it once did. Due to losing Eye and a shift in the meta, Tron has fallen pretty low. Its just a hard deck to win with, tapping out turn 3 to put down a Karn isnt as good as swinging for 7 and bolting twice or hitting 10 infect with a become immensed blighted agent.
>>47117734
>>47117478
That's why I'm looking to build the mid-range Eldrazi version. I think it has better game against aggressive decks, plus I might want to play Eldrazi in legacy too.
>>47117529
It's funny. I play skred and I actually have people complain because they can't hose my deck with sideboard cards they run
>>47107300
>close proximity
>cologne
pls no
>>47117495
it's okay mate, I'm sure your budget goblin deck will be tier 3 one day :^)
what are the chances of splinter twin getting unbanned in the future?
>>47118938
Never ever. Deck was boring
>>47118938
WotC admit they were wrong so soon like that? It's not gonna happen.
>>47119262
They weren't wrong
>>47119984
Ahaha it's you again
>>47120298
Yes it is I, the username anonymous. You caught me.
Will twin players ever move on?
>>47119984
No-one can be this stupid.
>>47120569
Different opinions are bait? K
Would it be better to invest modern on mtgo instead of paper? Cheaper and more convenient over thousands of dollars you riffle shuffle 1-2 nights a week?
>>47120673
Different opinions? More like wrong opinions. Give me one reason why being able to make an unlimited amount of 1/4s or 2/1s by turn 4 is a fair strategy. Being able to kill the first creature with removal is not an excuse when not having removal at that instant is a 99% guaranteed loss.
>>47118896
What the hell are you going on about?
>>47120908
Please learn to read.
I clearly said wotc made the right call banning twin.
Place is full of morons
I might compile a list of every modern viable deck (even like tier 4 stuff)
It's pretty autistic I know but would anyone even like this?
Kind of like a catalog of primers.
>>47121655
>Kind of like a catalog of primers.
You mean like the modern section of the mtgs forums?
>>47120908
>Being able to kill the first creature with removal is not an excuse when not having removal at that instant is a 99% guaranteed loss.
You could almost say the same for affinity infect, and bogles, and various other decks actually.
>>47120908
>turn 1 mana dork
>turn 2 mite/exarch/bellringer + mana dork
>turn 3 kiki
Heh kid...
i want this guy to be good is there anything he could work in, im brewing but nothing jumps at me
>>47121890
shit image quality sorry
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Creature - Spirit
Flying
When Topplegeist enters the battlefield, tap target creature an opponent controls.
Delirium - At the beginning of each opponent's upkeep, if there are four or more card types among cards in your graveyard, tap target creature that player controls.
>>47096226
fuck puca, people only send shit cards/bulk
>>47101681
titi meme noob
>>47121828
How is it that you're able to produce 4 mana on the second turn to cast mite/exarch/bellringer and a mana dork?
>>47121890
nah
>>47101681
Deck looks shitty, but I like the use of psionic blast fwiw.
Why aren't you playing skred, anon?
It's almost a free win in this meta. Creature decks simply cannot win and it out grinds jund and junk.
>>47122077
Are you a nigger? He told you, by un-tapping a land with the creature played that turn.
ATTENTION ALL MEME DECK MAKERS
ATTENTION ALL MEME DECK BREWERS
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
What're some good 1 drop spirits for a spirit deck? Already have 4 topplegeist
>>47120908
>not having removal at that instant is a 99% guaranteed loss
If not having instant speed removal on T4 ISNT a guaranteed loss, your format is going to go to shit as uninteractive decks like Company, Burn, and Infect just take over and run you the fuck over.
I will never understand why people believe that interaction is a bad thing. Like I play Jund, but I understand why DRS is gone and support it, these "muh instant speed win" kids are just irritating me.
Its actually kind of amazing. The only people who wanted Twin banned were people who played decks who's primary wincon was exactly what they hated Twin for: a solitaire combo kill.
Your daily reminder that Twin never won on turn 4.
>>47122077
>Untap target permanent
Damn people are so good at understanding Twin
DTT did nothing wrong unban DTT
>>47122583
>Your daily reminder that Twin never won on turn 4.
You may have had a point but this is pants on head retarded
>>47120908
How is a 10/10 with Infect on T2/T3 "fair?"
How is unlimited life/unlimited damage with a 4 mana instant speed tutor and drop "fair?"
How is having 5 permanents on the play T1 "fair?"
How is having 20 points of damage from hand off 3 lands "fair?"
How is making 7 mana on T3 and vindicating a land "fair?"
How is tutoring for an infinite damage combo at instant speed "fair?"
>not having removal at that instant is a 99% guaranteed loss
Twin didnt require you to have anything that any other deck in the format didnt. It just beat linear decks at their own game, thus the crying.
>>47122648
If a Twin deck could and did win the game on turn 4, you could replace the deck and the draws with literally any linear deck in the format and you still would have lost.
I'm going to document my fnm with you guys. Playing suicide zoo. Game one won 2-0 against memeobrand deck. c:
