>Bajorans never stop complaining about the Cardassian occupation where 15 million people died over 50 years
>This means 300000 deaths per year
>Meanwhile 480000 people die of smoking per year in the United States alone
What a bloody, brutal occupation.
>>47091056
killing that many people is still pretty serious effort
>>47091056
Assuming a population of a billion, that conflict was of a lower intensity than simply living in Chicago's ghettos.
That's over 5500 people killed per week, on average, and depending on what kind of military occupation it is, that may very well be nighttime raids and firing squads, among other counterinsurgency tactics.
No wonder the Bajorans are pissed about it.
I mean, a lot of Bajorans probably died from the lack of law enforcement or famine, disease, stuff that happens when the government actively desires your death. You can't count those as military casualties, but that's still tens of millions of deaths you could most likely add on, in addition to economic damages and all the natural resources the Cardassians took.
>>47091585
That's 5500 a week, but over the entire surface of a planet. Imagine 5500 people dying on Earth a week. It's be a drop of water in the bucket.
Also, given that the major Bad Thing the Cardassians did to the planet was widespread ecological disaster that required dedicated effort by the occupation government in order to fix, I'd assume a large number of those deaths came from mass starvations as Bajor struggled to feed itself.
>>47091831
Mass starvation still counts as genocide.
>>47091867
A pretty half-hearted one, though. 300,000 a year is nothing compared to what Stalin and Mao did in single countries. Hell, the Soviets lost 6 million to famine in a single year. This is almost nothing compared to that.
And the occupation was actively trying to fix the issue, and eventually did after a number of different efforts and techniques.
I'm pretty sure the Bajorans never had a huge population base, for their technological level and planet size and history and whatnot.
I always got the impression it was on the low end of things, with reasonably small families, being highly dedicated to the arts and spirtualism as a people, while having the technology to provide for excellent medical care, which meant a low infant mortality (and thus low family size) rate, too.
15 million, if their population size was closer to 200 million or so than an Earth-size population, is a pretty big deal.
>>47091056
Bajor's present population is 3.8 Billion during DS9. Presumably it was lower before the Occupation because the Cardassians did bring superior technology with them when they colonized the planet. Even so, we're talking about a total death-toll lower than individual famines in Maoist China--which at the time had a far, far lower total population than Bajor.
Frankly, this makes the Cardassians sound like fucking amazing administrators, they invaded, enslaved, and brutally strip-mined a planet, and they STILL killed fewer people every year than Coalition forces did in Afghanistan.
If the Boer War is anything to go by, the Cardassians are like 1/20th as brutal as the British Empire.
Listen this is just a case of scifi writers failing to think things out and apply scales that make sense. it's like saying millions of the imperial guard die to take a planet. Its supposed to be this big shocking number that makes us think they took horrible casualties, but when you stop and think about it even a few dozen million Is a pretty good deal for a planet. Millions of soldiers died just for a single continent in ww1, and it happened again in ww2. considering the population of the empire, even 100 million for a planet is nothing, chump change. The reason these kinds of numbers get used by writers is cause most people don't stop to think things through, they just see "millions dead" and think holy shit that was brutal.
