Anyone else like the new BW Eldrazi Taxes deck? Seemed pretty fun to me. I like these new Eldrazi decks without eye, just big creatures with good stuff, it's pretty fun and fair. Interested in seeing who wins the scg tourney today. Lot of Abzsn Company, the deck seems to just keep getting better as we move forward, seems like as long as there's creature tutors, that deck will stick around. Also the 8-0 D&T player last night cheats.
>>47018485
I was building that deck before Eldrazi exploded, same as a lot of people were. It's fun, but I hate TKS in a deck where Aether Vial and Temple pull you in differing ways.
>>47018717
What do you mean Eldrazi exploded? Like after it got banned? Why build a bad version before it got banned?
Jim Davis said BW Eldrazi Taxes is bad, pack it in everyone.
>>47019092
It is. D&T lacks tools to compete in Modern.
So everyone agrees that infect is the best deck in the format right?
>>47019202
Jund is popular right now, so no.
>>47019202
Haven't you ever heard the rule that infect is bad when bolt is big?
>>47018485
I played against the deck with U Tron and absolutely dumped on it. So it must fucking blow.
>>47019292
thats not true because lighting bolt is bad against it and it has a good match up against jund.
It has some game against (GR) Tron which frankly will never be tier 1 again without Eye. Just unban Eye, ban temple and mimic and be done with it.
>>47019411
>lightning bolt is bad against infect
Are you retarded?
>>47019495
He also thinks jund is bad against infect, so probably
>>47019495
>>47019501
so it is good to see that you guys just started but infect has these things called, become immense, apostle's blessing, everything that give +4/+4, spell pierce, spellskite, vines of vastwood inkmoth nexuses, wild defince, dryad arbor, and more. The match up is easy for infect.
>>47019495
>>47019501
are you guys dumb, that match up is everything but a by for infect
>>47019569
>he doesn't know you can cast removal during your main phase
>>47019633
in response i cast vines of vastwood.
>>47019633
damn it /tg/ why are you so bad at magic.
>>47019607
>>47019683
>>47019655
Is this like the new fresh meme or something?
>>47019706
no, the match up is just in infects favor and people are being dumb.
>>47018832
No, as in before it was even a deck. Processors and the BW Taxes builds predated the second set of the block, which is where Eldrazi as most people now know it took off.
>>47019655
I pay 2 life and redirect to my spellskite
>>47019736
>implying it is game two
>implying that i can't kill it and keep going with the vines
learn how to play magic retards
It is junk not jund with the good match up against infect. Infect is practically built to beat jund while junk has a tutorable Melria and can out value infect. all the jund has is k command.
>>47019717
Are you fucking stupid? Before you even have a chance to try to buff your creatures, I can thoughtsieze or IoK them out of your hand.
Plus, Jund runs shit loads of removal, more than protection you have. Also -2 lili
>>47019777
though seize doe not hurt the deck is redundant, I have just as much protection with two spellskites, four vines, four apostal's blessings and all the pumps. also fetch four arbor is one of the oldest tricks infect has. Are jund fags really this salty that there $1200 deck has a bad match up.
>>47019838
Nah, your just clearly retarded and never played against Jund. Thoughtsiezing and IoK'ing out all your threatsakes it easy enough.
But with 3 Abrupt Decays, 3 Terminates, 2 K commands, 4 Bolts, and 2 Pulses, I have much more removal than you. Since I don't have to care about damage from you, I can have several confidants out and am much more likely to have the cards I need than you as a result
>>47019838
>Jund is $1200 dollars
did you just wake up from a coma? Jund is like 2k now. also, the matchup is generally unfavorable for infect game 1, but invisible stalker really does a lot of work out of the sideboard.
>>47019838
uhhhh... block with tarmogoyf
in response you pump
bolt?
response pump again?
dismember?
oh wait I already thoughtseized that 2nd pump out of your hand
my turn? lily -2
gg scrub
>>47019878
>I don't have to care about damage from you
wow, not the guy you were replying to, and I'm also not saying the mu is good for infect, but this is how you get killed by pumped hierarchs/skites
>>47019753
>taking the bait
>>47019736
>baiting
Shame on both of you
>>47019878
>>47019885
>>47019890
Eating the bait
>>47019907
Fuck off troll
>>47019954
>it's ok guys, i was just PRETENDING to be retarded
>>47019987
I wasn't the one shitposting. Just calling out the troll and all the folks that got too many vaccines to realize there's a shitposter.
>>47019633
>tfw when went 1-4 to infect in a deck with 11 maindeck instant speed removal
>tfw every game i lost was to an inkmoth and the game i won was where he mulled to like 5 and had no protection for his inkmoth
June is bad against infect? When the fug did this happen?
>>47020364
why were you playing sets of 5?
>>47020372
Never. That anon is just dumb. Jund is the most, or one of the most, played decks in the new meta.
>>47020372
Jund is infect's 2nd worst mu, everyone else is trying to out-autism each other.
>Fucking up your triggers
YOU IDIOT!!!!!
>>47020408
oh maybe i formatted wrong. we did two matches. i lost the first 0-2 and the second 1-2. so counting games overall i was 1 and 4. inkmoth nexus is a terror
>>47018485
>Abzan Company
I was facing some dude who was playing Modern for the first time with a list from some primer and he ended up making first place - just play every creature on curve like some braindead 14 y o and clog the board until you eventually win - this deck is everything that is wrong with modern
I don't even get why they banned Pod to begin with
we are at the fucking same point again where Finks/Redcap Combo are easy as fuck to assemble as early as turn 3 and reliably on turn 4
they have access to every sideboard card in a format that is defined by sideboard cards and where everyone else is denied any sort of filtering
I mean seriously, why do you ban Pod and then print two new pieces for the deck? what is the fucking purpose?
>>47019736
>mfw my friend took this bait
he couldn't redirect any faster.
>>47021032
Kill the deck, throw them a bone. This new company deck is nowhere near as potent. It cares too much about the combo, old pod stopped being a combo deck and was just valuetown when it was banned
Just when I'm starting to think Modern General might someday get better at Magic, a mouthbreather says Infect is good. Goddammit /tg/.
>>47021158
>le anime shitposter face
O anon surely thou jest
>>47021158
And what deck do you play?
>>47021158
>>47021092
Between Voice making */*s pop up, Scooze randomly hosing a lot of strategies as a maindeck card, Fulminator Mages doing Wasteland impressions and Finks beating for 5 I don't feel like this deck cares for it's combo as much as you say it does.
As I wrote, without removal or filtering for any other color but green they can just play everything on curve, still have mana open for Chord/CoCo and win just by the fact that they play nothing but creatues in a format where efficient removal is considered Hitler
>>47021213
Grixis Control. Infect folds hard enough to Bolt, Kommand, Terminate and Electrolyze that I can't even imagine how much harder Jund fucks it with Abrupt Decay and Liliana. Infect feeds even more free matches than Twin did.
>>47021451
>Be Infect's hardest matchup
>Wonder why the deck folds so easily
Don't be retarded, anon, even Jund is easier to face.
>>47021300
All the cards you listed are played in several decks, run in sideboards or as 1 ofs in the deck. Yeah the deck is strong but any deck with interaction can beat it. Jund plays a lot of those creatures but runs efficient removal and is an all round better deck.
>efficient removal is considered hitler
Are you high? Have you seen kommand vs affinity? Abrupt decay against most permanents? Path and bolt are crazy too. Coco requires it to have an active graveyard and works with 3 creatures. If that is too linear of a combo you're deck has no interaction at all. What do you even play that can't bolt in response to the combo? Yeah they have value creatures, so does pretty much every deck in this format, but they opted for a combo side than removal.
Why are Memedern players such babies?
>waaaaaah muh reprints
>>47021490
Infect's hardest matchup is melira co. Abrupt decay is v good against me unless I'm on nexus, in which case it looks real silly. Jund and grixis are both definitely not good for me, but they aren't unwinnable like company is.
>>47021622
I mean, at least try a little with your trolling
>>47021300
>play nothing but creatues in a format where efficient removal is considered Hitler
Modern decks run the most removal out of all the formats
>>47021754
Yea Melira can be a bitch but its only one card that you will often have an answer to.
I've folded hard to Grixis due to the obscene amount of removal and counterspells, but I guess that it just depends on the matchup.
>>47021858
>Yea Melira can be a bitch but its only one card that you will often have an answer to.
Such as? Unless you can deal 20 normal damage with Hierarch good luck drawing your one-of Dismember.
>>47021898
Sorry, meant to type that its only one card that you have to worry about.
Also doing 20 damage isn't impossible.
>>47021938
You probably won't have to deal 20 since nearly every deck doesn't care about going fetch->shock against infect.
You'll probably have to deal 14-16, which is still hard
>>47021938
It's not, but requires a nut draw and isn't an option after infinite life combo, the turn after you're dead.
>>47021762
>trolling
>waaaaah y u no reprint Tarmogoyf instead of Dead Weight?
>>47021985
>Implying that I don't nut all the time.
>>47021858
they also run spellskite, a ton of tutors, and generally clog up the board with a bunch of dumb blockers that don't die. I can occasionally just cheese midrange decks out with an early kill.
>>47022211
>dumb blockers that don't die
Do you not Distortion Strike or Blighted Agent?
>>47022249
I don't really like distortion strike and I'm not going to mulligan to agent. there's only one company in my meta anyway, the rest is easy as balls.
>>47022249
>distortion strike
Slips are the new meta brah
>Opponent shuffled his deck after cascading
JUUUUUUDJE!
As a owner of 4 decks (Ex Twin, Jund, Affinity and Infect), I must say Jund and Junk/Abzan preys on infect decks since the chance of winning for jund is 70 - 30, however SoI gave the UG Infect some tools to defend from discard. The new sorcery counterspell for U was a big surprise when I played vs an infect guy. He made the fucking match last over 10 minutes, time enough to setup delirium and remove my stuff from my deck. I kept killing his creatures and spellskites, hoping to land a lily (bobs didnt showed that match unfortunately). He saved a fucking negate to screw my lili. My tarmos were countered by spell snare and I was wondering what the fuck was going on. Had abrupt decays in hand that were useless vs the Inkmoth and died of Aids.
I still believe Infect is not good vs Jund, but they have now some stuff to fuck us if we go with the full discard and and beat plan.
>>47022544
Nevermind judge I read the card now
>>47022555
Sry m8, but you must be a shitty jund player for losing vs infect.
>http://www.starcitygames.com/events/coverage/3757_day_2_metagame_breakdown_.html
Scape and Elves are popular. Odd because Elves had many problems in this meta. Also, Mono-Red Dragons. I need a list.
>>47019890
that literally never happens when you play against someone who knows what the hell they are doing, and there is always more than two pumps. lily 2 take arbor, fuck off fags and learn to play magic.
>>47020372
jund has always been bad against infect, people on /tg/ are just being bad at magic again.
>Kalitas making a full comeback from 1 life
$50 card soon?
>>47022631
half of jund does nothing to infect.
>>47021898
you never have just a one of dismember dumb ass, there are always multiples plus infect has plenty of filter now
>>47022768
Already hit 35 beaver bucks. It's fucking stupid. Modern playable mythics that see play as a 1 of, while in print are that expensive. Fucking avacyn is around 65 beaver bucks this is jace the mind sculpture levels of cost
>>47022845
>1-of
Grixis deck was running it as a 3-of just now
>>47021490
Jund being hard for infect at all is the joke
>>47022858
What
The
Fuck.
Seriously?!
>>47022864
Check the SCG stream, they're playing now.
Living End vs Grixis Control
>>47022874
Jesus christ. Who knew the card was that good?
>>47022906
Jesus christ. Who knew the card was that good?
If you're being serious, a 3/4 with Lifelink that exiles your opponent's creatures and basically 2 for 1's with giving you zombies and can pump himself for 2BB is pretty damn good.
>>47022906
Jund and grixis players in my area have been on the Kalitas train since he came out. The guy wins games by himself.
>>47022768
The living end player is so bad.
I still need to buy my set of Traitors. Foil or non-foil?
>>47023036
Foils are shit
>>47023036
I got 2 foils back when they were only $25.
I love them. Kalitas is just so goddamn good
>>47022753
Fuck off with your trolling mait
>>47023079
But they also increase in price exponentially compared to non-foils, and right now it's only $30 vs $40.
>>47021236
>>47023119
Stop posting useless, off-topic reaction images.
>>47023162
Calling out a troll
>>47022631
Cant give an opinion since th lack of details in the story, but as I understood, was that we gotta make sure we have discard on t1 before they can defend with that new counterspell.
I agree we can get screwed if that thing is cast with delirium. Removing our IoK and Thoughtseizes can be a pain.
Some jund players remove their lightning bolts and rely on lily/bob/goyf + discard spell because of the fear of them having wild defiance and that is a mistake. Lightning bolt is one of the best spells in modern and they shouldnt be removed post sideboard.
>>47023183
>feeding a troll with (you)s
>still posting worthless, shitty reaction images
Please leave and never return.
>>47023119
not trolling I am right
>>47023120
I guess I did a great job buying a set for 20$ when they were spoiled.
>>47023184
>Some jund players remove their lightning bolts and rely on lily/bob/goyf + discard spell because of the fear of them having wild defiance and that is a mistake. Lightning bolt is one of the best spells in modern and they shouldnt be removed post sideboard.
That really seems like it should go without saying. Wild Defiance still eats Decay, and chances are better that Bolt puts in work than Defiance lands and sticks around.
>>47023120
If you want to play with them, foils are the original expeditions. Overpriced cards that look bad.
>>47021585
>>47021829
The reason modern decks run so much removal is, because it is creature centric
The reason why control still doesn't work is because the removal is shit compared to what creatures can do
No matter what removal you pack, you always got huge blind spots in certain matchups while a creature always does the same no matter what opponent you face - you can always slam it on the board an kill with it
Also, try to stay on card parity when you try to remove Finks and Voice
Even PtE, the most easily available removal, that bypasses their abilities gives your opponent a free card
That is what I call inefficient removal - we are already at a point where creatures aren't on par with point removal but surpassed it
Efficient removal in this format would have to be shit like a Doom Blade with Investigate - or something like StP - heck I wouldn't care if they printed Swords to anything that is not them gaining card/board advantage
>>47022564
>>47022544
But, you only shuffle the revealed cards and put them on the bottom of the library?
>>47023559
the reason memedern decks run so much removal is because it's a broken format full of OP cards
>>47023589
Nah thought that you had to put them in the bottom without changing the order, but Cascade says that you put them back in a random order..
Is it at all possible to run a budget Jund list that doesn't lose every game or do I just play something else until I have 2 grand lying around?
>>47023727
Modern is full of weak shit. All of my old standard decks arent modern legal. The only good cards are the creatures: hence the ubiquity of removal
>>47023559
>Efficient removal in this format would have to be shit like a Doom Blade with Investigate
I would exchange a kidney for Terminate with Investigate stapled on for free. Hell, I would even play Complete Disregard with Investigate stapled on for free.
>>47023805
Don't even try playing Jund without Goyf, Bob and Lili.
>>47023808
Just unban punishing fire
>>47023887
this desu fampai
>>47023231
But you're wrong.
What was the name of the little autistic cheating with D&T yesterday?
>infect is a good match up for Jund
Why is tg so bad at magic?
>>47025483
it's really not that bad. infect is just overpowered.
>>47025483
Infect IS a good match up for Jund. Next you'll be implying Eldrazi isn't a good match up for Prison.
/mtg/ modern in a nutshell
>infect is shit
>i lose to infect but i swear im not mad
>I SAID INFECT IS SHIT
>smug anime face
>infect is shit
>look, i cant lose to infect, just "cardname" and "cardname" your "cardname" gg kid
>WHY ARE INFECT PLAYERS SUBHUMANS
>infect is shit
>smug anime face
>>47025483
>Why is tg so bad at magic?
Because people are just making one-line posts from their phones without backing up their statements with any substantial personal experience or evidence.
if you lose to infect as jund, you got outplayed plain and simple. you probably think it's a bad matchup because you cast like 500 removal spells and lost anyway because probably cast the wrong ones at the wrong times and probably were casting them on their combat like a monkey
>>47025557
Nobody said Infect players are subhumansbut Burn players are. I just don't consider it T1 and it auto-loses to a ton of popular decks.
>>47025627
>implying you're good at magic
lmao retard fucking 1v1 me on modo then if you're so cool
>>47025557
You forgot the eventual
>"X deck isn't shit, but burn players are!"
Post
>>47025640 THIS
>>47025703
lmao you are right
>>47025633
>infect player damage control
enjoy your bans, nerd. remember, no combo deck should be able to kill before turn 4. why should infect be an exception? #downwithinfect
also
>infect players thinking their deck takes any skill
lmao
>>47026162
i think Infect will always be around because from what I've seen, everybody who comes to MtG from another game like Yugioh or Pokemon always builds infect and doesn't have the skill to play anything else.
>>47026205
it's fine if it is around post bans, so long as the deck isn't super bullshit 64 braindead cancer I'm a-ok with as many people playing it as they want.
>>47026205
But the closest decks to YGO are Abzan Company and Living End (or Boggle, if you ever played Railway).
>>47022725
Netdecker lol
Any tips to help make this better?
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/27-04-16-fzJ-uwr-control/
>>47026423
throw it in the trash.
>>47026442
You're right I'll just play Bogles
>>47026514
I was going to recommend Jund
>>47026423
>Gideon Jura
Why?
>>47026519
Aha fuck there's a reason I don't have scalding tarn in there instead of arid mesa
>>47019292
>>47019411
even faeries is good against infect
>>47026716
>suicide deck
>against a deck that deals no damage
Because this was in question?
>>47024600
no, the only place that has ever said that it is more than a 50/ 50 match up is /tg/ and because we all have plenty of proof that /tg/ is bad at magic I am fairly certain I am right.
>>47025633
or infect just had enough protections spells. This match up literally comes down to opening hands and infect takes it more times then not because Jund will let you kill them with regular damage more than any other deck. Removal is not enough against infect one because it is bad in modern and because infect has a shit ton of protection. People here seem to think that just having a response is enough when it is not because infect is the one active while Jund has to spend all of its time reacting to what infect does giving infect plenty of time to just keep swinging on it already fast game plan. Also thoughseize is not good against it because it is a very redundant deck with a ton of cantrip effects and evasion.
bought a pack of MM15 for shits and giggles, pulled a skrillex bob. Wat do? Also why is this card expensive?
>>47026842
>Also thoughseize is not good against it because it is a very redundant deck with a ton of cantrip effects and evasion.
Twin played a lot more cantrips than Infect and still had a terrible match up against jund. You're just wrong.
>>47026716
No infect can kill it with regular damage, faeries just has counter spells and good blocker really.
>3 abzan company decks in a top 8
I feel a ban coming
It's literally taking creative deck diversity and fucking raping it and also it's 50% of the meta
Wizards please save us
>>47026862
4 of play in all BGx
>>47026883
The difference is that infect can counter abrupt decay and rending volley, those cantrips do more in infect because of become immense.
>>47019753
>implying spellskite isn't maindeckable
I knew tg was bad, but I didn't realize they were THIS bad.
>>47026862
Draws extra cards for potentially no life. Just has to sit there. Can do damage.
>>47026914
Junk doesn't use him, only Jund.
>>47026894
It really doesn't deserve a ban, as it's not an unfair deck.
>>47026951
>implying fair decks don't get banned
>>47026923
Not the infectard, but who the fuck would main Spellskite in Jund?
>>47026923
>implying that spellskite is main deck in jund
yea /tg/ is bad at magic
>>47026921
Jund holds up a lot more removal than you seem to think. They'll just kill it again in response.
Plus, Become Immense has nothing to do with all your pumps or creatures having been ripped out of your hand. If you're in top deck mode against Jund, you're fucked.
>>47026937
You're right, I thought they both play bob and lili.
>>47026894
Welcome to modern, where playable= bannable
Why does Based Bananaman see play only in Grixis and no other decks that run black?
>>47026894
>it feels like pod
>its combo
>it can do infinite something
>sometimes it does things at instant speed
#BANNED
>>47026894
not to mention kiki company, and bant value company.
I played a knightfall meme deck as affinity today.
>Smack him with an inkmoth nexus for 7 cuz plating
>try again, eats removal. Fair enough.
>Vault skirge gets plating then, - gain 7 life - you go to 2 life
>motherfuckin Worship
>45 minute game 1 ensues - i eventually get as far up as 51 life- double steel overseer on board, he has 3 knight of the reliquary's out that are 11/11's that trample with kessing wolf run.
>after 7 more turns I get another inkmoth nexus - sac my 7/7 ravager to it.
TO says we don't get a game 2.
>>47026894
Why ban a fair deck?
>>47027124
muh diversity
>>47027027
Jund has Kalitas now.
Abzan company was never going to use him.
>>47027124
When it makes up half the fucking meta.
Lots of Jund also at the SCG Open, might as well ban that too.
Anyone ever tied a game before? Not from time, but from no one being able to win? Just happened to me.
>>47027174
And if they ban it just because it makes up half the meta some hot new deck will just do the same.
???
>>47027209
This has never stopped wizards before
>>47026983
1. infect kills far before it get there
2. Yes become Immense does because those cards can be delved and become Immense is a kill condition on its own.
3. in response infect protects whatever Jund tries to kill.
4. Jund is a deck that tries to out one for one you. Goyf being better than any creature for value, all of its removal is the best such and such. Thing is that infect works under that because infect needs to be out valued for you to win. Infect if do much fast than it to not be able to just keep going when it looses one creature. When one guy can take your life in one swing that warps the amount of time you have to actually respond. infect lets you burst down them while they are at low mana and hold off just long enough to win. It is a deck that takes a lot of skill but then again fagots here don't get that because they think burn is simple. I was joking when I said it was the best deck in modern because it looses to junk, merfolk, grixis, DnT, and B/W tokens is another hard one but shit guys its pretty easy to see how infect beats Jund. All of infects protection beats all of Jund removal. Counter spells work against infect, out valuing works because infect has no way to make extra value. The only things tht make extra value is Kalitas, k command, and Tasigur, two of those come out too late and can be evaded while the other one is the reason why Grixis goes from hard to a death sentence.
>>47027224
I feel like you are just saying that because they banned twin.
>>47023742
Yes, and the random order is achieved through the shuffling of those cards you revealed through the cascade trigger. I don't get your point.
>>47027190
You mean timing out? Usually decking means every game is inevitable with enough turns.
>>47027246
1. It doesn't. When all your creatures are taken out of your hand or Terminated/Bolted/Abrupt Decayed, you're not winning any time soon
2. Become Immense just gets Bolted in response
3. Jund has much more card draw with Bob, it will have much more removal than you have protection
4. Not reading that shit.
>>47026971
If you know infect is a big player in your meta, it's fairly reasonable to take out slower, less interactive cards (read huntsmaster) for skite. Not every version of jund wants maindeckable skite, but if your tuning against infect its good.
>>47026981
I guess if superior deck building and meta shot calling makes you bad, then I'm bad
>>47027306
1. that only happens when you over extend or they get a really really good hand.
2. in response vines with the bump. GG
3.Bob hurts you enough to where infect can kill you with normal damage. Even Tom Ross said that most of his normal damage wins comes from Jund.
4. I know you don't want to be proven wrong because it would hurt your ego but I am doing this for you so you can git gud.
>>47027372
>implying that what you said is "superior deck building and meta shot calling" and not you just making other match ups worse just to go after that you can win if you just get more k commands.
>>47027372
Nice thumbnail
>>47027463
What is that sentence?
Are you even writing in English anymore? Just to go after that you can win if you just get more k commands" are you trying to say run k command instead of skite? Legit confused right now. The point of skite is to get out early / under infect, not play into their disruption.
>>47027502
Thanks
>>47027463
1. So you assume you always have good hands and your opponent doesn't.
2. In response Bolt again. This is assuming I didn't thoughtseize that out.
3. Won't matter when none of your creatures can connect since their dead
4. Nigger, that's 5 fucking lines where I already know you're wrong. I don't need to waste that much time.
>>47027285
Nope. I was playing against lantern control and got to ultimate jace after he had needled liliana, and played an ensnaring bridge. Got him down to 0 cards in library and he kept recurring artifacts with academy ruins. I couldn't get milled either because of Emrakul. Even when he ran out of artifacts he could just sacrifice lantern every turn. We hardlocked eachother. Really weird.
>>47027590
I know big word are hard for you because you are a autistic gibbon but let me break it down for you. Remember this morning when you were playing with your Hotwheels? when they got to the bottom they shot up to the high point afterwards right? that is how infect works it goes low then wins
>>47027673
1. No learn to read because over extend was in there to
2. Now your in magical Christmas of multiples of one card and enough mana to do it after they cast something on there turn like a goyf. that is when we win because we evade then become immense. Also in response Might of old Korosa.
3. Again infect has enough protection and can ramp with noble to keep stuff alive. Jund rarely gets everything. Tom Ross and other like him can tell you that.
4. but again you need to git gud and those lines keep me from repeating shit got that little one.
>>47027781
Are you fucking retarded? That is exactly why spellskite is good, it interacts early and often.
Holy shit work on your English please, or go back to whatever third world European countries fourms you came from shitter.
>>47027781
>Tom Ross and other like him can tell you that.
Not him, but you keep mentioning Tom Ross. Provide source where he says all these things, I'm curious to see what he has to say.
>>47027829
please go to the hot wheels part of that because applies to you
>>47027846
let me make one clearification before hand that main what he talks about in this is 1. older infect 2. he does not say it all in this link. This one he just talks about hot you get kills of normal damage from jund.
http://www.starcitygames.com/article/28653_Infect-in-Modern.html
it was the one I was talking about for the low damage thing. I don't want to put words in his mouth because my argument is not his.
That moment when everyone is not letting themselves be perfected.
>Cracking a land
>Putting yourself at 1 mana
>When you damn well know your opponent can have life gain
YOU IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dat destructive revelry
How did the worst burn player get into top 8? I missed the rest of the tournament.
>revelry on the spellskite
This is why Tron can actually beat burn. Because burn players are literally all fathe retarded fuck niggers. What a fucking botch retard, lmao average burn player, fat retard. Hope he goes home and kills himself.
>>47028044
Cell please go.
>Keeping a no-lander
>Cracking your lands at the wrong time
>Relvry the Skite
YOU FUCKING IDIOT HOW THE FUCK DID YOU EVEN GET TO DAY 2 OR TOP 4.
GODDAMIT I'M MAD NOW.
>inb4 one of the fucking billion Abzan Company decks win the final
>inb4 it gets banned shortly after
>>47028395
Nah, Tron will get it, and Joe Losset knows how to play. I guarantee he wouldn't have been hitting that spellskite
just going to leave this here
http://www.starcitygames.com/article/25160_A-Guide-To-Playing-Modern-Infect.html
>>47028357
Keeping a no lander isn't the worst thing someone can do, the revelry on the spellskite really just threw up the retard alarm
What did you expect from a burn player?
>>47028489
I am a burn player. This fat sack of shit gives burn players a bad name.
>>47028516
Whatever you say retard boy
What happened with Revelry on Spellskite?
>>47028554
He was supposed to hold hs Revelry and use it when Joe attacks with his Wurmcoil next turn, because Joe would have to kill himself if he wanted to save the Wurmcoil with his Spellskite, which would have bought the Burn player an extra turn to draw an answer.
Instead he decides to cast it on Spellskite without thinking and lost the game because of it.
>>47028554
Joe Losset was at 4 life playing ton with a spellskite and a wurmcoil in play. No way to produce blue mana. Burn player was on 6 life, with a destructive revelry in hand. He cast it on the spellskite, in his main phase, in true burn retard fuck fashion. Then drew a mountain. Tbh if he drew a boro charm there I would have been mad as fuck, cause he deserved to lose for such an autistic fucking play.
>>47028621
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
BURN
PLAYERS
>GETTING DAY 2 WHILE BEING THIS RETARDED
JUST BURN THINGS TM
Lucky fucking little spic drawing perfectly
>>47029104
He also played well.
>>47029150
I disagree. You had to assume if Joe Losset had a sweeper her was going to play it. The odds of playing around firespout hitting your bird are way fucking lower than having ulamog hit your 3 birds, I believe he had 3. It was the usually wrong play, but in this case he got lucky, you can't attribute it to anything except luck.
>>47029099
Show us on the doll where the Goblin Guide touched you.
This commentator is such a retard. Firespout would hit a bird or a hierarch, not both.
>>47029277
where is this happening
>>47029348
Scg twitch, good game, finals
>>47026894
They won't because it's creatures: the turnening: the deck: the movie.
>>47029411
I haven't seen the deck win from beats once. It's literally just shitty pod, with 8 pseudo pod
>>47029458
>I haven't seen the deck win from beats once.
Doesn't mean anything. I've seen them win from beats all the time.
>>47029241
>A-am I really allowed to touch the doll's red zone?
Did he just put the rest of the Ancient Stirrings cards into his hand and shuffle his old hand under his library?
>>47029699
Joe wins both of his bad matchups and loses a matchup that should almost be a bye. What a strange journey for Joe.
Fucking lucky little spic, I mean Joe's lucky too to even be there but that faggot spic drew perfectly.
Infect is the realest deck in this degenerate format: you just turn creatures sideways and use pump spells. If you're not playing infect, you're not playing real magic. Just a thought, kiddo.
>>47029905
So Joe is allowed to be lucky but not the spic?
>>47029931
What about affinity? You go wide but basically do the same thing.
>>47029931
Ok so I am the guy from the beginning and even i think this is retarded. Junk is hard to beat and its really good.
>>47029967
Yeah pretty much. I mean Joe won by out playing to aggro babbies. The spic won because Joe didn't see a tower after looking at 18 cards.
>>47030084
>outplaying aggro babies
Can't outplay a retard
As soon as this fat blazer guy decided to revelry the wrong thing he deserved to lose.
>3 Abzan CoCo in the SCG top 8
Fuck I hate this deck so much it resembles everything that's wrong with modern magic.
Also blue is still shit tier even with those 2 únbans, it's hilarious to think that there were some retards here that said that those cards are broken and shouldn't ever be unbanned.
>>47030409
Why is it "everything wrong with modern magic"? It's a value deck with the ability to tutor for combo creatures or utility creatures. Nothing more or less. Do you hate tutors? Do you hate flashing in creatures? I don't get it.
>>47026888
that's not really true; so, OK.
BB gives a blocker each turn.
>>47026951
I agree with you but I remember saying the same thing about pod.
>>47030462
I have a problem with them because they get better with every standard set while every blue or combo player gets fucked.
>>47030409
What's to hate? It's turning creatures sideways, AND comboing off, AND going to value town. It can be hated and interacted with. It's everything that IS Modern.
>>47028516
there are only two relevant burn players
patrick sullivan and cameron ramsay.
here is cameron giving a fucking clinic on burn and how to maximize your play with it.
http://bccomix.com/playing-the-game-with-legacy-burn-cameron-ramsay/
note that while the list itself is legacy, the points are still relevant.
you're welcome.
>>47030470
with how much evasion infect has it does not matter.
>>47019655
>cast removal on your main phase, or their end phase
>force them to blow their pump spells and vines in such a way that doesn't increase their damage output
>win game
are you a caveman?
>>47030753
Infect plays 2 apostle's and 4 blighted agent. Idk if that's a lot.
>>47030807
bro hes trolling you
So ancestral and thoper sword weren't enough to make blue broken, or even particularly great it seems. What cam control get to make it good?
>>47030807
there are so many pumps its does not matter and vines does that more than it pumps
>>47030828
inkmoth and slip though space and there can be as many as four apostle's.
>>47030855
no I am not, I bored and killing time until i go to sleep by debating with idot's because how easy it is to see the Jund looses to infect is comical that there is another side
>>47030828
4 agent, 4 rancor, 4 inkmoth, some rune distortion strike and / or artful dodge / slip through space. Some run as many as 4 nature's claim in the sideboard too.
>>47030807
>he doesn't know vines of vastwood gives your creature hexproof
>2 for 1 you by countering your spell + getting bonus infect damage in
gg?
>>47030931
>>cast removal on your main phase, or their end phase
can you read
>>47030904
control is ok in modern. It's just typically midrange. Grixis and lantern are good and thopeter is doing fine
>>47030913
>jund loses to infect
Are you fucking retarded? You're the one making the outrageous claim here, pull up any ducking statistic that shows Infect has a good matchup, duck pull me up 1 infect player on reddit saying infect has a good jund matchup (I'm sure you use reddit)
>>47030913
Against BB inkmoth isn't really a thing. And the vast majority of decks don't run 4 apostle's. Slip through space is a card, but it's definitely not a 4-of. I don't think it's even a 3-of
>>47030927
I have yet to see an infect list that runs 4 rancor. It's usually a 1-of if it's played at all.
Where are you guys getting your lists from?
>>47030981
Control is not okay in modern though, and thopter is still mediocre. Control is like 10% of the meta including "ton the control deck" Control just isn't a thing in modern.
>>47030955
buffs only remove between turns you retard
>>47031047
Read his post again. Your reading comprehension is seriously lacking.
>>47030990
you see here>>47028463 and Tom Ross makes the match up seem fine. It is literally on /tg/. No i do not use reddit primarily because the voting system is dumb.
>>47031073
>grasping for straws this hard
honestly i don't know why i even bother arguing with you retards
if you don't understand how basic mtg works why do you even post?
>>47031033
Jund is control. Midrange decks are plentiful
>>47031023
BB isn't the reason Faeries shit on Infect. Spellstutter Sprite is.
>>47031094
You're absolutely fucking retarded, I'm beginning to think you're trolling. He says to cast removal at the infect player's endstep (or really just post-combat) or an you main phase (or just your turn in general).
>>47031133
I was waiting for someone to say it. Is /tg/ finally learning to play magic
>>47031155
>or an you main phase
>shit i just realized im retarded, quick id better act like i was trolling all along!
yeah ok buddy, lmao
im sure you were just pretending to be retarded :)
>>47031133
I'm not saying it is. One guy mentioned BB produces blockers against infect, and the other guy claims infect has a lot of evasion which, against BB, isn't really the case. The fact that no one mentions the fact that infect can just kill you before BB comes onlines is whatever.
>>47031094
Do you really have that much trouble understanding what was written, or are you just continuing the stupid act after realizing your mistake?
>>47031077
>one fat retard from 4 years ago claiming that Jun is a good matchup because he won some games
Lmao, literally talk to Tom Ross. Post the question "Is Jund a bad match up for infect?" on one of his YouTube videos and see what he says.
>>47031166
Faeries isn't a real deck, so anyone with even a rudimentary idea of how to play it in Modern is by definition a shitterlike me.
>>47031201
>He mistyped on the internet
>surely he's an idiot.
You're fucking retarded. You know exactly what I mean. You can't accept the fact that you've been proven wrong and is just trying to redirect the argument to literally anything else in order to save face.
>>47031047
>cast removal spell on your turn
>they use their pump spell to prevent it
>you end your turn
>their pump spell goes away and does not deal extra damage to you
>>47031155
>He says to cast removal at the infect player's endstep (or really just post-combat) or an you main phase (or just your turn in general).
this is the correct solution.
You have to make the infect player spend their pump spells and blessings in such a way that they are functionally casting Negate rather than Giant Growth.
The kid you're all arguing with is essentially saying 'no I just Counterspell you' to every possible scenario, which makes me wonder why yall niggas aren't just saying ' I Sudden Shock your Blighted Agent gg no re'
>>47031228
Ok so go and read the rest of the thread, I have written a novella on it at this point.All you fag have said is removal and i have proven that as wrong. Next have you read any of Tom Ross's stuff he makes it clear that the match is at worse 50/50. Have you asked. does not matter because infect decks go up with Jund decks and down with Junk
>turn 1 discard spell
>turn 2 kill spell
GG Infect fuccboi, thanks for the bye :^)
>>47031286
>You can't accept the fact that you've been proven wrong and is just trying to redirect
jesus christ anon, can you at least finish elementary school level grammar before embarrassing yourself by trying to understand magic
>>47031312
uh, vines of vastwood counters your spell AND pumps. pretty fucking gg to be honest.
>>47031372
so one I would would cast vines to protect my creature and keep swinging.
>>47030904
Jace
Seriously, I'm not sure why this guy is still banned when literally every deck would just ignore him and do their un-interactive dipshit strategy like normal
>>47031397
How about you focus on the actual argument and not on my grammar?
>>47031350
I've read all your retarded posts, yeah you can pump a guy out of bolt range, good for you. It's funny how in the very article you posted, that fat retard mentioned pumping their guy in response to bolt and then winning. Like, who the fuck bolts a glistened elf pre combat? It's retarded. It's pretty much like saying "lmao dredge is the best deck in legacy, so what if they have Rest in Peace? I'll just nature's claim it!" It's retarded. And if Jund isn't a bad match up for Infect then tell me, what is a bad matchup, cause if Jund isnt, then Infect should be easily the best deck, bar none.
