Not Some Shitty BA edition
>Rules databases
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>FAQs
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>40k 7th edition quick reference sheet(s)
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>Forgeworld Book index
http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Forge_World_and_Apocalypse_Rules_Index
>Novels (Working link as of 02/02/2016)
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>White Dwarves
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/tx4hcy4u487pv/WD
First for the rhino
Can someone explain the chicken?
>>47006004
This thread is shit.
Real thread
>>47005049
>>47005049
>>47005049
>>47005049
>>47006038
memes
Blood Angles thread is better. Shitposters stay here.
>>47006038
It's a meme, and skub.And just like skub, anyone who hates it is a subhuman faggot
>>47005447
Explain how it looks bad.
>>47006038
It's a /pol/ meme that one guy kept posting to counter this one undelightful guy. In Russian roosters mean faggot and the chicken asks for proof add two and two together.
![maxresdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/pQnE1jY.jpg "maxresdefault[1].jpg")
This thread is ALIVE!!!
>>47006070
skub a shit
"You had one job" Edition
>>47006047
>doesn't have the OP image to make it easily identified
>doesn't have the copypasta so people can get the rules, lore, supplements etc. easily
>made by some newfag to get his questions answered easily
Yeah, nah, fuck off, you're a cunt.
Where the fuck is the genestealer?
>>47006100
Found the subhuman
You trust him
Don't you?
>>47006090
>It's a /pol/ meme that one guy kept posting to counter this one undelightful guy.
So it was shitposting to counter a certain shitposter. Care to explain to me why is it on the OP image?
>>47006168
I always thought it was Chicken Boo.So new fags would insist it's a chicken, but everyone else would deny that there is a chicken there.
>>47006168
general images are tumorous growths that develop over time from the stagnant waters of their general threads
it is there because someone put it there, and removing things rocks the autism boat
Supposed to be a 1000 pt list, but I have 155 left over that I'm not sure how to spend. Any ideas?
+ HQ (230pts) +
Captain (120pts)
··Captain:Terminator Armour [Power Sword, Storm Bolter]
Librarian (110pts) [Mastery Level 2]
··Power Armour [Force Sword, The Primarch's Wrath]
+ Troops (400pts) +
Tactical Squad (200pts) [Plasma Gun, Rhino, 9x Space Marines]
··Space Marine Sergeant [Chainsword, Combi-plasma]
Tactical Squad (200pts) [Plasma Gun, Rhino, 9x Space Marines]
··Space Marine Sergeant [Chainsword, Combi-plasma]
+ Heavy Support (215pts) +
Devastator Squad (215pts) [4x Heavy Bolter, 9x Space Marines]
··Drop Pod [Storm Bolter]
··Space Marine Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Boltgun]
>>47006004
>>47006048
>>47005049
MULTI-THREAD-SHITPOSTINGMULTI-THREAD-SHITPOSTING
What if we had an informative thread pic instead of memes?
If I have an Unbound army, does the 0-3 rule for Imperial Guard Priests, Psykers and Enginseers still apply, or can I field a hundred Priests if I want?
>>47006255
what if you got the fuck out?
>>47006255
>informative thread pic instead of memes?
We also have
>Id4chan
>links
>A dedicated painting thread
>constant flow of new GW shit
What we don't need is shitty newfags and their shitty armies.
>>47006255
what if we didn't bitch about the stupid meme image for a thread or two
>>47006209
It seems to me that's more like you guys are rewarding shitposting by putting it up there. No wonder the threads are in the state that they are now.
Oh well, Suit yourselves. It will be entertaining to see where things go.
>>47006267
It's unbound, that means you get to field whatever you want, and then watch your opponent shake their head and walk away.
>>47006315
Cool, thanks!
>>47006315
now thats called age of sigmar
>>47006305
Literally no-one wants your shitty thread. You are shit.
>>47006341
Not for long.
Once that official rules list comes down, nobody is going to play without it.
>>47006118
Tyranid infiltrators and not!Xenomorphs dating back to the Rogue Trader days. They infect people, the people start up cults that worship them, and the cultists infect more people. The hybrid children start off ugly as sin until future generations look completely normal. The next generation is Genestealer again. They are one of the reasons space hulks are so dangerous as the Hive Mind sticks thousands of them into the hulks. Beware their rending claws for even terminator armor is of little protection. Pic related is a strand of stealers that the Hive Mind wants to avoid for genetic instabilities that grant them their ability to shapeshif, and has been around before the First Tyrannic War.
>>47006343
What? What are you on about?
>>47006244
But why?
If Tau individuals have no True Name and more like a a fuckton of nicknames refering to their achievements, are they invulnerable to sorcery that requires to know the True Name of the victim?
>>47006391
True names only work on daemons. When a Tau becomes a daemon prince, then we can worry about that subject.
>>47006356
>nobody is going to play it.
fixed
what space marine chapter would look the best when surrounded in a collapsed building, kneeling shooting and all tacticool
>>47006419
So the people I see playing at my store aren't real?
>>47006458
fists
>>47006243
I would start by getting rid of the dev squad, at least how you have it. They accomplish pretty much nothing. Dropping them in means that you lose a whole turn of meaningful shooting. Taking extra dudes doesn't really help and heavy bolters aren't for devastators. Basically, everything about that squad is wrong. It's a huge amount of points for absolutely nothing.
>>47006490
>lying
>on the internet
like why dawg
>>47006153
I think I hate him more than before
>>47006458
Star phantoms. Any imperial player worth their grain of salt would know that thise fuckers where probably the ones who caused the building yo collapse and are now working on "remodeling" the rest of the block.
Time to get sad Imperial Guard players:
The new Death from the Skies supplement isnt optional and contains all the new rules for flyers in it.
Vendetta isnt included.
>>47006153
No, because how can I trust a man who doesn't trust anybody but himself?
>>47006551
>Vendetta isnt included.
Not surprised thb, it didn't had the actual conversion kit, and GW can make you buy new fliers to compensate.
Delete chinkin bread. Go Blood Angel bread. Too many generals.
>>47006551
I hate flyers, good thing I play Steel Host so I HAVE to take a Hydra.
>>47006090
>It's a /pol/ meme
wrong
>In Russian roosters mean faggot and the chicken asks for proof add two and two together.
right
>>47006551
Isn't the Vendetta just an "upgrade" to the standard Valkyrie, though? I'd imagine that it'd be, for all intensive porpoises, considered a Valkyrie with a different weapon loadout and losing its Transport Capacity.
>>47006643
Fuck off. The other thread doesn't even have the links.
>>47006733
Doesn't matter. Links can be posted in othr posts and they are for newfags anyways.
Blood Angel bread was posted first. Which means chickin brea is illegal. Delete this now pls.
>>47006004
So I just bought the Chaos Lord's Cadre that I want to run with a Termi sorcerer to kill Tau with. If I'm deep striking them how I should I kit them out? Is it worth using the force weapon to try and ID a Riptide or should I be casting spells?
>>47006643
Naw. Let them stay here.
The other thread is for tgentlemanly discourse.
>>47006776
power fists are how you kill riptides
combi-meltas are your friend
flamer if you want to kill pathfinders
autocannon or another combi-melta otherwise
>>47006795
You are right. Chickin men would shit up the other thread.
Let this be their hen house
>>47006776
Combi-weapons and stock power weapons makes them dangerous and cheap. It's the best way to be cost effective with them. Combi-plasma are probably the right way to go for fighting Tau.
Charging into a Riptide to ID it with force could work, but only if you can get past overwatch. It's probably not a bad idea since the Riptide will tank anything else. You might want a force axe to try and get past his armor though.
Why is Magnus the Red so red?
>>47006887
Because BIG E stole his mojo from the Chaos Gods.
>>47006776
Use the sorcerers formation to shoot to their guys with his riptides
>shooting all the stormsurges missiles before he can use them
Mfw
>>47006675
If it's an upgrade, then I can tell you that the Datasheet in Death from the skies doesn't have that upgrade for Valkyries.
Khorne is a Woman.
Which are the bonus for Bombers, Attack Planes, and Fighters?
>>47006960
You're thinking of Slaanesh.
I'm putting my first squad of termagants together, what should I kit them out with?
>>47006998
She's just prettier than her. That's why she hates her.
>>47007000
fleshborers
gants don't deserve upgrades
>>47006981
Bombers suck
Attack craft is good
Fighters do not lose skyfire, but gain -1bs against ground.
>>47007000
Hormagants.
By the time you get in range with your 12 inch gun, you could have had your fleet unit get slightly closer and charge. And tarpit fearlessly whatever you're probably going to fail to kill instead of just harassing it with plinky, useless guns.
Tell me 40k general, what is your favorite unit in all of 40k and why? Is it because of the lore, the models, the crunch, or because of some personal reason (like them being the first thing you ever got for 40k for instance, or even something else?
>>47007061
space hulk
>>47007055
you were almost hepts
>>47006833
Is the autocannon actually worth taking? I've heard that 2 AP4 shots without being able to move is pretty weak for the price point.
>>47006244
A real dillema programmers face for self driving cars.
>>47007061
Grey Knight Interceptors. Fast, badass force swords, cool models. That's about it...
>>47007152
>I've heard that 2 AP4 shots without being able to move
You dont play the game, do you?.
>>47007055
>>47007000
This
Hormagaunts are the shit, brilliant rules for such dirt cheap infantry. either tarpit stuff or tear apart enemy Orks / cultists
Termagaunts are only worth existing if you spawn them via Tervigon, but having a tervigon is far from mandatory, but is can be a fun/ powerful army build
>>47007000
>what should I kit them out with?
Hope.
>>47006946
I really hope that's just speculation, otherwise I'm going to be very sad.Though if a Valkyries get Vendetta upgrade options, this would mean Militarum Tempestus would have access to Vendettas
I'm probably going to be very sad
>>47006776
>If I'm deep striking them how I should I kit them out?
Force stave + Iron Arm + Force = 3-4 S9 AP2 attacks with ID
>>47007040
>Bombers suck
Why is that? I'm guessing they suck at areal combat, but shouldn't they be excellent at attacking ground?
>>47007055
Naw. termagants to unlock Tervigons as troops, and for late game spawning/objective grabbing.
>>47007152
it's overpriced
2 S7 shots aren't horrible if you're plinking vehicles, and terminators count as stationary regardless of movement.
But more often than not you'll be better off taking the heavy flamer for the odd unit or another combi-bolter for more melta/plasma shots.
>>47007232
Theres no single bomber in 40k thats actually good with bombing and the book really didnt make them any better.
>>47007232
As i understand only the Dark eldar bomber actually has good bombs / weapons, it gets like AP2 or 3 large blasts i think.
That said i don't play DE and never see them on the table, so their must be some crippling weakness to them. Price? FA slot? i wouldn't know.
I do know the Ork bomber is shit for it's pts, and again never see anyone take 'bomber' fliers
>>47007191
Not often. I'm pretty new.
>>47007269
>never see anyone take 'bomber' fliers
Why?
>>47007269
Necron forge world bomber is pretty neato.
>>47007211
>>47007232
>>47007269
I have the book. Vendettas not in.
Bombers are bad in dogfights, and all but one or 2 attack patterns only benefit their bomb. That's right; Most bombers only have 1 bomb. (I.E: The dark eldar one). Also. Bombs are dropped in your movement phase, attack patterns bonuses start from the end of a movement phase in which all flyers stand in pattern, to the end of the next movement phase, thus, bombers do not benefit from their attack patterns on the turn they enter from reserves.
>>47007349
That must be an oversight.
>>47007349
Well there you go, straight from the horses mouth.
Forgot that bombs are limited ammunition, yet another weakness since most bombs do poor damage
Say if you have the new book can you see if the Heldrake is in it and where it stands? did Vector strike change at all? finally are any FMC's included?
Thanks.
i wish land raiders didnt suck
>>47007000
Depends on the unit size, but I usually kit 1/3 with Devourers and the rest with Spine Fists. Place Devilgants at the back where they are safer and can better make use of their superior range. The Spine Fists at the front will work as meat shield to your Devils and the Spine Fists Provides better Overwatch which is good because they are more than likely to get removed from the table by your opponent's next shooting and assault phase.
>>47007055
>By the time you get in range with your 12 inch gun, you could have had your fleet unit get slightly closer and charge
Or you could you know Shoot X amount of S4 AP5 and charge for 2X amount of S3 attacks instead of just 3X amount of S3 attacks that Hormagants offer. Hormagaunts have their uses and I5 is good, but Ternagants are hardly useless by comparison
>>47007407
FMCs are not included.
There are basically no changes to any datasheet other than role, 2 new stats (Pursuit and agility) and that all flyers, heldrake included, can be taken in units of 1-4. They do not act as squadrons, but enter from reserves together, with their entry points within 4" of each other, and then, act independently.
>>47007302
Terminators have Relentless special rule which allows them to move, shoot and charge with Heavy weapons as if they were normal Assault weapons
>>47007409
Same. I would love to play my Deathwing but I don't want to shell out so many points for the only transport worth bringing for them. Without them the DW Knights are pretty poopy.
>>47007486
Oh. Damn. That seems super useful.
>>47007460
Huh, cool. thanks for looking.
So i only ask because i assumed this new 'dogfight' phase triggers if both players have a flier. and i wondered what happened if one is an FMC.
Few people at my LGS run fliers and i own mostly FMC this update ain't gonna mean much for us
>>47006243
Jesus Christ, that formatting is a shitshow
Hint: only list upgrades (i.e. don't list Captain's wargear since it's Terminator Armor default gear)
Hello Tg could you give me some feedback about my army, it's supposed to be competitive but not spamming units powergamer, just decent. Also I'm new around here so if I've done this wrong please don't bite my head off.
Blood Angels 1850pts
+++ HQ +++
-> Astorath the grim -165pt-
+++ Elites +++
-> Death Company Squad -285pt-
- 10 deathcompany (chainsword, bolt pistol)
- 1 powerfist
- 1 thunder hammer
-> Furioso Dreadnought -150pt-
- Bones of baelsor
- Blood talons w. storm bolter and heavy flamer
-> Sanguinary Guard -195pt-
- Chapter Banner
- Death marsks
- (3x encarmine sword 2x encarmine axe)
-> Terminator squad -220pt-
- Assult cannon
+++ Troops +++
-> Cassor the Damned -140pt-
-> Tactical squad -200pt-
- Flamer
- Heavy Flamer
- 9 tactical marines + sargent
-> Rhino
- Overcharged engines
- Storm bolter
+++ Heavy Support +++
-> Stormraven Gunship -205pt-
- Extra armour
- Twinlinked Lascannon
- Twinlinked Multi-melta
-> Vindicator -145pt-
- Overcharged Engines
- Siege shield
- Stormbolter
-> Vindicator -145pt-
- Overcharged Engines
- Siege shield
- Stormbolter
What do you think?
>>47007061
a guardsman
it's what got me into the 40k universe thanks to the games and i absolutely love everything about them
>>47007409
So what exactly is the problem with land raiders?
How do we fix them, and all vehicles for that matter?
>>47006795
Have you seen the other thread?
It's all just a bunch of shitposting about space wolves.
This thread only has chucklefucks like you shitposting
>>47007349
>>47007385
>no vendetta
Since it's a forge world kit, I'm not surprised at all.
>>47007890
>So what exactly is the problem with land raiders?
they fucking suck
>>47007890
>How do we fix them
make them 150 points base and give them armored ceramite for 20 points
>>47007061
Tyranid Warriors.
Honestly they didn't need a new box, but i'm glad i own both old and new. Model wise they are such a massive improvement over the shitty old school buck-tooth warriors.
Lore wise i love the image of them slashing shit apart whilst firing a deathspitter all the while keeping the lesser creatures in line, perfect multi-tasking officers leading on the front line.
Even if the book is weak and S8 wrecks them careful placement and their synapse will keep them alive and valueable, just recently my 4+Prime unit distracted the fuck out of two battle-cannons all game, only losing 2 of them on turn 4 but surviving with smart use of cover + Venomthrope support. I love using them and never play without at least 3.
>>47007961
There's pages for Valkyries so you can make the same thing
They'll sell valk kits at 50% more with sprues so you can make 1 of 3 or 4 varaints
>>47007061
>what is your favorite unit in all of 40k
Interrogator Chaplins
These guys have bad ass fluff, the model is damn sexy and he is fantastic on the tabletop (when on a bike in a RW Command Squad)
I already liked the idea of Chaplins being morale boosters and keeping everyone in line and on task so when I read into the Interrogator part it just made them that much cooler.
>>47007628
it's pretty decent, and definitely fluffy. Not sure how your getting all of cassor the furioso and the deathcompany into battle. Could use some drop pods then.
>>47007961
the upgrade kit is FW , the rules are in the regular codex
>>47007061
Leman Russ Battle Tanks. I own a couple copies of every variant and I usually run at least five in a game. Love the look, love the rules and I love running armies where I don't actually have to put infantry on the table.
>>47008088
Okay, I was planning on having cassor in the stormraven and have the furioso foot slog it, but you make a good point, thanks for the suggestion. Oh and the death company have jet packs I forgot to add - sorry
>>47007061
terminators are cool
>>47007061
Eldar warriors- they were the first unit I ever bought (the box of 4) back when I was a child - I have never bought any eldar since though
>>47008065
Murderbots because morderbots, also tune swords that suddenly ignore the most advanced armour sounds rad as fuck.
>>47008183
I wish the were as cool on the table top as they are in fluff.
>>47007061
SM captains.
My first model was a RT era captain, a gift from my uncle.Then some twat threw him at a wall and he broke in 2. It took 3 guys to hold me back, but with greenstuff "bionics", he still sees the field in my most important games, because the Emperor Protects.
I love them because of their versatility and while they aren't top dog, piles of responsibilities in the field are put on their shoulders.
>>47008128
My cousin got me to start playing again when we got him a huge IG lot to start and I dusted off my 5e Orks and switched to Necrons when the Start Collectings came out and Leman Russ are still wrecking me. I thought gauss would melt them like jet fuel but his Pask N Co. is just the worst thing. I need to get a bunch Destroyers.
Ilike the new fluff for theNecrons.
>>47008216
terminators with rerolling all saves + santuary is pretty broken
>>47008035
I know, my roommate plays guard and I keep trying to convince him to convert one, since he understandably doesn't want to shell out fw money for just some lascannons.
What I meant was, I'm not surprised the Vendetta isn't in the gw made supplement, seeing how it's a fw made product.
Turns out I'm mistaken >>47008100 well, then it's just stupid.
>>47007061
Baharroth and by extension the Swooping Hawks. He was the first 40k mini I ever bought (10years ago), before I even started playing. I just love the concept of the aspect warriors in general and I have a soft spot for "flying" units (aussault marines soaring through the skies on columns of fire, scourges circling the spires of high commoragh, ...)
>>47008227
Or get some wraiths, and hf stabbing them to death
>>47008284
Unfortunately, that's an enormous investment. If GK termies got sanctuary by default, it would be pretty easy. However, you'd need two separate librarians and/or a shitload of luck to get that to work.
>>47008311
Sorry meant to tag
>>47008266
>>47008332
My main problem is that I hear both of the formations are too strong but I use a Reclamation Legion with a lot of infantry so I am not sure if I want to buy stuff that may be too strong and be unplayable
>>47008215
I love the exert in the Codex about them swarming all over a giant Chaos Terminator who keeps swatting them away with a Power Fist, before one tunes it's blade, right through his armour and into his rotten hearts :3
>>47007061
>Tell me 40k general, what is your favorite unit in all of 40k and why?
Hive Tyrants. Their models are sexy, fluff is sweet and rules are great, making them very trustworthy on the table. If only they had the access to a 2+, a ++ and Crushing Claws they would be one of the greatest units in the game
>>47008314
libby conclave and inquisitors are easy
that new reroll saves power is so broken that its made terminators, especially th/ss one of the hardest to kill deathstars
>>47008415
>If only Tyranids were allowed to have nice things, they'd be great.
Sounds about right.
>>47008425
Inquisitors really aren't a good way of going about that. The conclave is, though. I keep forgetting about that. I'm a BT player, so I try really hard to forget that we get left out of everything nice.
>>47008314
Well you will have to buy something other than infantry to keep your army balanced, but if you don't like them maybe a doomsday ark? Also do you use any transports for your warriors, and how much terrain do you use when playing, because some intervening building would benefit you as well.
so who's exited for new tyranid stuff next week ?
>>47008500
What new stuff?
The Gene Stealer cults or something more?
Also, how do the new Flyer Rules affect the Tyranid Flying Gargantuan Creature?
>>47008497
I have a sneaking suspicion that you quoted the wrong post.
>>47008377
>>47008497
Dammit done it again, sorry
>>47008425
I would love to face th/ss deathstar. You can run away from that.
>>47008517
donno
the WD teaser was very clearly tyranid stuff though
>>47008517
None whatsoever. SoD wont affect FMCs and no new nid stuff.
>>47008536
Yup. If only terminators had a decent, affordable transport option. I swear to the Emperor that I would drop my wallet and buy a fucking army of land raiders if they made them good again.
>>47007890
Cost needs to come down, less vulnerable to melta, base transport capacity needs to increase.
It's a schizoid transport that tries to be a tank, but doesn't have the loadout to support either as a dedicated vehicle.
>>47008100
You mean like how Griffon, Medusa and Bombard were? I would not put it past GW to just axe Vendettas from the codex and make FW put it into their books for what ever duration they bother to make those lascannons.
>>47008570
And thats not even the worst if it: av14 4hp vehicle isnt just durable in this game anymore. D, grav and haywire all ignore its toughness.
>>47008536
yeah, good luck running away from the 24 inch moving terrain they are in and can assault out of.
>>47008564
terrain is free last time i checked
>>47008608
Wait, they can sit in the terrain and move with it? lmao
>>47008544
>the WD teaser was very clearly tyranid stuff though
>Yfw it's actually AoS Ghouls
>>47008628
yes kek, and assault out of it the same turn it moves
its fucking retarded, like i said, the new broken as fuck psychic shit made them good.
>>47008603
Also this.
LRs have the same problem 2/3+ saves do: too many fucking ways to render it moot when the assumption is that you are paying points for something of value.
I still have fond memories of running terminators before they had the 5++. Eldar were a fucking bane of my life, and nobs would rip you to shreds effortlessly.
>>47008544
>the WD teaser was very clearly tyranid stuff though
Any pics or links?
>>47008630
ghouls only eat the dead though
>>47008544
What WD teaser?
>>47008570
I think the transport capacity should stay. It's a fundamental part of the vehicle and defines the difference between the Godhammer and its the Crusader and variants. They need access to armoured ceramite and blessed hull needs to come back. Even still, >>47008603 has a point. AV is just too squishy at this point. They either need a HUGE point drop or some kind of resistance to all these weapons that completely circumvent the normal mechanics.
>>47008608
Why the hell are you even using terminators anymore? If you have even psykers to be able to reliably obtain two powers on two different tables, why not just nuke the piss out of everyone with your librarians?
>>47008646
holy shit ok time to get librarius conclaves with terminator armor guys
(don't forget all the ordo Malleus detachments with salvo psycannon terminator armor)
actually wait, that gives me another question--for purposes of weapons does the terrain move count as their move?
>>47008656
it was something along the lines of
"living flesh, burned flesh , dead flesh all will be consumed"
>>47008658
Yes, they kill their pray and then feast
>>47008646
Anon, you can't say a unit is good because something you may not even have or run in your army because you need other support psyker shit merely exists.
That is the worst kind of theorycrafting.
>>47008667
>Why the hell are you even using terminators anymore? If you have even psykers to be able to reliably obtain two powers on two different tables, why not just nuke the piss out of everyone with your librarians?
yeah because its hard to get 2 powers when you have 5 libbys
only plebs run 3 man libby conclaves, take 5 of them
>>47008227
That stuff about your first captain sounds awesome. You got a picture of this badass, green stuff bionics and all?
>>47008678
Ye that's an undead teaser.
>>47008266
Get scarabs. Lots and lots of scarabs. If you're up against a tank heavy list, no matter the army, you want scarabs.
What fancy gubbinz is dis?
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Gork-and-Mork-Dice
>>47008675
>actually wait, that gives me another question--for purposes of weapons does the terrain move count as their move?
no, so you can also rape people with grav if you want
>>47007061
Tech Priest
Admech fluff is what got me into 40k and the model and crunch for the cultmech dominus turned out pretty damn great as well.
>>47008719
For an ML2 librarian, you have a 1/3 chance to get a single power from a discipline, with replacement between psykers. If you put two librarians per discipline, you have a 5/9 chance of getting the power you want out of that one discipline. You need to have two powers from two different disciplines. If power selection worked like spells from Fantasy and there were no repeats in an army, it would be easy. As it were, I wouldn't bet on it.
Also, the whole thing turns into a pile of ashes if your opponent take a culexus. I'd hardly call it a strategy.
>>47008401
what's this? Pls enlighten a fellow anon
>>47008796
well one of them would be loth with invis just incase anyway
>>47008721
No pics on hand, at work right now and... well, let's say I won't be able to get to my models for a little while.I'm being evicted from my place tonight, everything is packed up for storage.
>>47008759
Yeah, the tech preists are sweet. My brother plays skit/mech and steel confessors (since they're a real fluffy choice for mechanicus allies), and I've always thought that the mechanicus stuff looks real cool.
Only thing that I don't like is the lack of customization. If and when we get the skitarii-ad mech super codex, they better add more options. The fact that currently you can't do stuff like make the HQ a magos of one of the different branches (like a magos biologis, magos explorator, magos reductor, magos prime etc.) is a fucking crime.
>>47008839
So now you've got a 5-man conclave, a named special character that requires a specific chapter, a big-enough terrain piece to ride, and a hammernator squad in order to...put a single five-man squad into combat. That is capable of - at most - killing one squad a turn. Sure. Go for it.
>>47008909
Shoot, what I'm thinking is that the current codexes are like testing phases, and when they release the Combined AdMech codex, there'll be a ton of new rules and most likely models to coincide with this.
Also, Steel Confessors are awesome. What scheme does he do his Skitarii in?
>>47008719
>one five man conclave
>not two three man conclaves
>>47008963
>put a single five-man squad into combat
>5 man
stupid troll/10
try harder next time kiddo
>>47008971
>not two five man conclaves
>>47008658
No they don't.
Next in line will be AoS Ghouls, expect:
>Battle-tome: Flesh eaters
>Start collecting! Flesh eaters
And of course repackaged renamed Ghoul King on terroghiest, Ghouls, and Crypt horrors with round bases. Possibly a new unit or return of an old Strigoi vampire mold in plastic
Why else would they the preview mention 'flesh'? Tyranids do not eat flesh, they absorb Biomass. also i saw a image of the cover art in the aos thread
>>47008975
Enjoy your boondoggle.
>>47008965
>there'll be a ton of new rules and most likely models to coincide with this.
I hope so. They batter have a magos prime at the very least. A magos specialzing in warfare that can be the size of a dreadnought? That shit is fucking rad.
And his army is in martian color scheme.
>>47007061
It's tough but I gotta go with the ironclad dreadnought. I remember lusting after the model long long ago before I even played, thinking the armor, the industrial cc arm, the hurricane bolter rack and the missile pods looked awesome.
When I finally got one I had a great time painting it, it was surprisingly easy. Finally playing with it... that 13 armor drop podding in with ironclad launchers and heavy flamers does not disappoint. I love getting him stuck in with fearless units who lack S7+ in CC. What a great distraction unit to take attention from my heavy weapons.
>>47008909
Rumors are that the combined dex will just be adding some robots and a flyer, as well as allowing them to go as one force org.
However Forgeworld might help there, IA14 will be adding some of the 30k mechanicum units, and we should be getting pic related at some point.
I need a name for a SoB from agri-world Lolita. Something along the line Order of _________
Any suggestion?
>>47009125
i like where this is going
>>47009032
I've never heard of the Magos Prime until now.
I must read about this awesome thing.
Martian scheme is cool, Stygies VIII amd Metalica are my favorites, Ryza is cool too.
I really wish that there was an official Kalevala scheme, then I too, could do Steel Confessors fighting alongside the Skitarii of their Homeworld fluffy army.
>>47009070
Eh, better than nothing, I suppose. Just hope that they keep it so that Skitarii have no HQs or if they do get one, they're 100% optional. I like that bit about them.
>>47009125
SEXUALISE THE SISTERS AND YOU DIE MOTHERFUCKER
>>47009070
All sounds great, but I have to womder what name charecters will be in the normal codex. Only really famous tech-priest I can think of (outside of the big boys like the fabricator generals) is Arkham Land, but he's been missing for quite a while.
Not many ways they could use him, except like some weird form of Dragio, perpetually stuck underground in the Libraius Omnis, only popping up on the surface every so often to help acquire a new STC before returning to whence he came
So this is mainly just to play against my little brother's Orks, nothing too competitive, and we both generally like assaulting. Grimmy rides in the LRC with the large crusader squad. Scout bikers are to get the Van Vets to deepstrike where ever they're needed most. Talons are to pop transports, whittle down any heavy armor, and possibly threaten any lone ICs, as my brother likes to stick his Big Mek in cover to shoot blast templates around safely. How useful is a 1st company strike force's fear and fearless and -2 LD aura against Orks? I don't quite remember how their mob rule works in 7th Ed.
BT 1500 (1499pts)
HQ (150pts)
Chaplain Grimaldus (150pts)
+Troops (685pts)
-Crusader Squad (115pts)
Initiates x 5
Sword Brother with Power maul
Neophytes x 2
-Crusader Squad (115pts)
Initiates x 5
Sword Brother with Power maul
Neophytes x 2
-Crusader Squad (455pts)
Initiates x9 Power maul, Meltagun
Swordbrother with Power maul + Meltabombs
LRC with MM
+Fast Attack (334pts)
-Scout Bike Squad (84pts)
Scout Bikers with Grenade Launchers x2
Scout Sergeant with Combigrav and Locator beacon
-Stormtalon Gunship (125pts) [Twin-linked Lascannon (15pts)]
-Stormtalon Gunship (125pts) [Twin-linked Lascannon (15pts)]
+1st Company Task Force (330pts)
-Vanguard Veteran Squad (110pts)
5x Van Vets with Jetpacks
-Vanguard Veteran Squad (110pts)
5x Van Vets with Jetpacks
-Vanguard Veteran Squad (110pts)
5x Van Vets with Jetpacks
>>47009064
Someone repaint that Dreadnought, it's looking awfully shabby, definitely not up to Chapter standard.
>>47009125
How about the Order of I cringe at your shitty taste.
Seriously? Agriworld Lolita? Your neckbeard must be a dorito crumb filled glory.
>>47009187
>Black Templars
>Bikes
PICK ONE! >:(
>>47009187
Orks fucking hate leadership tests. Mob rule is garbage. I think I'd consolidate those crusader squads. I don't like strange numbers like that. You should also probably take the servitors. Reorganize all that shit and see if you can stick some weapons and extra dudes into your vanguard.
>>47009183
>>47009179
They would most likely keep the skitarii HQ-less, as the order in charge of them love to stay up in their ship, away from battle.
And yeah, primes are awesome.
>>47009125
make them felinids too...
mmmm....
>>47009251
What's wrong with Templars on bikes? It's the knightliest thing you can do with this codex.
>>47009187
If it's not too competitive then you probably don't need help from /tg/ to list tailor against your little brothers Orks. And yeah a -2 Ld aura will wreck orks' shit.
>>47009125
>Agri-world
>Lolita
Yessir, we grow only the finest jailbait here!
>>47009070
Holy shit all my piston powered techno-boners!
>>47009251
The Black Templar would totally make neophytes ride bikes around to get the big brother templars closer to hit things with their swords. And then they'd have to drive their bikes into melee as well.
>>47009260
It's hard to not want to get more bodies in crusader squads, since our chapter tactics kind of call for getting shot up to get pissed off. I might drop the LRC if I feel like he can't wipe an entire unit hard without a metal box to ride in.
>>47009300
I'm not really trying to tailor this against him, I'm just trying to see if it's a fun list. I haven't gotten too many games under my belt, and usually they didn't go well.
As in I tried to drive my 3 LRCs up a Lord of Skull's ass because fuck getting my own superheavies into a game. This is back in 6th before the Spearhead was in.
>>47009125
You might as well call them the Order of My Magical Realm
>>47009363
I meant fewer squads with more dudes. You only need two. Fill up the LRC with one and take the other with however many you please.
Do people still hate Grey Knights?
>>47009419
Ah, I get you.
>>47009439
This is 40k general. We hate everything and everyone. If you mean if people think they're broken, fuck no. They're depressing in their current state.
>>47009439
yes but its mostly just because the baby carrier looks retarded
>>47009125
Where is this from? Why is the Argi-world called Lolita?
>>47009483
GK suffer from some kind of cosmic balance. Everything that's a cool idea has bad rules and bad models. Everything that's good on the TT has terrible models. Everything with a good model is horrible.
>>47009439
Nah they are cool,a lot more cooler than Space Yiffs...
>>47009491
>Where is this from?
Only War Core Rulebook pg.330-352
>Why is the Argi-world called Lolita?
That's a great fucking question
>>47009363
>The Black Templar would totally make neophytes ride bikes around to get the big brother templars closer to hit things with their swords.
>Giant bike blobs will never be a thing again.
I want off the pain glove.
>>47009522
Exhibit A: The baby carrier. The best unit in our codex, but god damn that model.
>>47009542
>That's a great fucking question
I'm equally concerned with what goes on that planet as I am with the name.
>>47009491
because its fertile and vastly superior to its competitors
>>47009439
No, because they became weak in 6E then got weaker in 7E. They are basically "psychic allies, Draigo to bodyguard Centurion deathstars, and Dreadknight: the codex". A pure GK force is garbage. Your only options are Purifiers and DK.
>>47009673
I wouldn't say they're that bad. I mean, a competitive list is going to be comprised entirely of librarians, purifiers, and dreadknights. No argument. But for casualish games, they're alright. So long as you're not fighting the best a codex has to offer, it'll probably be alright. That being said, you're totally fucked if AV13+ shows up at all. Holy shit, GK can't deal with vehicles. It's fucking sad.
Mighty Kairos, when will we get a new CSM codex? Will it not be shit?
>>47009718
When CSM stop crying.
>>47009714
>I wouldn't say they're that bad. I mean, a competitive list is going to be comprised entirely of librarians, purifiers, and dreadknights.
Yeah that's what I meant. Not that GK can't be good it's that "a pure GK list is limited to purifiers and DK". A pure vanilla marine, Eldar, Tau, or Necron list has many many good choices in comparison.
Just take some allies and GK can be good.
>>47009718
>Will it not be shit?
the last good codex we got was over 12 years ago... you tell me.
>>47009718
There will never be a new codex.
Just some shitty supplement that won't fix any of the major problems.
>>47009738
Honestly, I find that allies often hurt GK. One of the few things they have going for them is shenanigans ML. Pretty much anything else you take just cuts down on your maximum stupidity. The only thing allies are particularly good for is squeezing in a few extra ML or providing cheap guns. I kinda wish there was a really cheap but somewhat decent anti-tank option available. Psycannons are not sufficient. I'm considering switching most of my librarians over to technomancy and just haywiring the piss out of everyone.
>>47009762
Maybe they've been saving up all the good rules. Take heldrakes as troops, Kharn gets 88 attacks. That kinda stuff.
>>47009560
The Crusade never ends, brother.
>>47009789
>I kinda wish there was a really cheap but somewhat decent anti-tank option available
Rapier Laser Destroyers.
>>47009855
Hard to get into a bound GK army. You need to pay a bit too much of a tax on that for my taste. Allying in an entire force just to stick in some rapiers seems rather inefficient.
>>47009820
Actually there's probably only a couple of years of crusading left.
THEN IT'S PARTY TIME MOTHERFUCKERS! WOO!
>>47009885
grav cents
>>47009885
>65-90 points for ML1-2 lib
>55 points for scouts
>tax done
>>47009820
Reminder that BTs are now only a little bigger than 1000.
Has anybody here got the weapon profile of the new Ork planes Tellyport Mega-Blasta? I assume either it's different than the Tellyport Blasta that a Big Mek can get or GW just forgot the name of the gun and stuck a mega in there for giggles.
The only source of info I can find on the new book is that thread on warseer, and I'll be god damned before I register for an account.
>>47010086
It's the same as the tellyport blasta but large blast rather than small.
>>47010086
It's got Large Blast instead of Blast, supposedly, but is otherwise the same.
>>47010105
>>47010133
Is it still 12" range? That would suck.
>>47010183
Yup, still 12". Also, the KFF projects out to 6", so the effective range would be more or less 6"-12".
>>47010015
I replace their official canon with previous, better canon and my own headcanon.
Helbrecht lies every time the faggots with pens call up to ask. Eternal crusade, faggots.
>>47009920
Will they renew the Ten Thousand Year Crusade or willThe 40k Endtimes ruin everything anyways?
What's the army that takes the least amount of skill to play and why is it Ravenwing?
Also, why is there literally no reason not to play Farsight Enclaves over regular Tau? Jesus fuck, GW, you could have at least tried to make the two factions distinctive.
>>47010349
If you want to run a lot of troops, Farsight enclaves is a bad idea. Bonding knife taxes add up if you actually bother to take no PM-battlesuit infantry.
>>47010246
The kff would just give targets within 6" a 5+ save which is kind of meh, unless I'm missing something. I guess because it's a flyer you don't have to worry about scattering your blast back on to yourself. It's basically a bomb at that range but without the drawbacks of being an actual "bomber" or being a single use weapon.
>>47010349
Tau are the bottom of the skill barrel. Point and shoot. Oh no they have cover, fuck 'em marker lights. They're getting close, fly away with jump packs. If you can't win a game as Tau then you must be the greatest foe of the dice gods. They've got more access to cheese than the entire Kingdom of the Netherlands.
>>47010349
Bike armies take no skill to play because they are units that act like good melee units (TWC, Wraiths, Khornehounds) but without any of the decision making or tactics of assault. You simply shoot at things instead then vroom vroom away. Plus they have scout moves to start herp derping one turn faster.
The only decision bike armies need to make is how to not build the army like a fucking idiot, which is easy since you know it's all bikes, how to scoot your bikes around on the table, which is easy: into the range of your guns and not into the easiest spots to get blown away by enemy guns. Your only real decisions are whether or not to use your free miracle 50% save jink.
It's like asking why assault armies are braindead if they could move 24" a turn and use their melee weapons like guns.
>>47010430
Just shoot the pathfinders. They die easy enough. Boom; entire shooting army is locked at shitty BS3.
Also, I playCSM; the note on the Tau was an observation.
>>47010349
>Also, why is there literally no reason not to play Farsight Enclaves over regular Tau? Jesus fuck, GW, you could have at least tried to make the two factions distinctive.
Bonding knife tax making everything 1 point more expensive.
Other than that, yeah, it sucks. I enjoyed playing farsight enclaves despite everyone telling me how subpar and worse it was than just going straight Tau Empire. Because damn, outside of the earth caste pilot, those signature systems are bad and overcosted, or fills such a small niche that there is not much use for them in a competetive sense, especially compared to the vanilla signature systems. But fuck, i will probably never NOT take a fusion blade commander again. Shit is just too fucking hillarious.
Making fire warriors one point more expensive pushes them straight into "don't bother" territory, so there is also that.
>>47010430
My first interaction with Tau was pretty recent. We only had one Tau player at my old LGS. Some guy with Aspergers who had hundreds of models but refused to paint them. He never actually played, he just argued why Tau was the strongest army. So when I moved to an actual city I went to the local GW for a kill team event. I ran a basic squad of CSM (I dont play CSM I had bought the models specifically to paint something different) and had some good games. And then I faced the guy with the unit of unpainted crisis suits. It was an eye opener.
>>47009655
>its fertile
They sure are!
>>47010658
>>47010463
Thing about Tau is they can basically outshoot everyone without issue having the best basic infantry gun in the game and tons of S10 AP1 weapons. Their supposed downside is they suck in melee. I've basically never seen a Tau player get more than a small number of delaying infantry caught in melee. Basically every suit is impossible to catch because they can jet jump. Yeah if the player plays poorly you can catch some fire warriors, but good luck taking down that riptide with anything short of massed lascannon fire. Which brings us back to them being able to out shoot everyone, you're not going to win a long range shoot out without running IG infantry blobs and even then there so many high S low AP pie plates for the Tau that it doesn't matter.
>>47010721
Not very hilly terrain, though. Mostly flat plains. A few valleys here and there, but no vegetation there, either.
Deimos Pattern Vindicator Tank Destroyer looks ridiculously good for it's points, possibility overpowered?
3 S9 ap1 ordinance shots at BS4.
>>47010837
its good but it isnt even close to overpowered
remember lascannons do nothing to tau, eldar, anything with a jink save, etc
>>47009125
>>47009158
>>47009183
>>47009220
>>47009329
>>47009377
>Everyone instantly assumes this poster has the worst motivations.
Everything they said we purely innocent, maybe you should try looking in a mirror before you accuse someone of having a dirty mind?
>>47010907
Don't fucking kid yourself.
>>47010828
its a small and compact little planet with a warm and wet climate.
>>47010906
It allows me to fill the rest of list up with lots of poison, fleshbane and ID. It's a shame it's a special rule that hurts it and not gets hot otherwise it would go really well with my divination psykers.
>>47010941
Wait, are you seriously upset over this?
It's only a bit of light fun and you should be glad there is someone who still knows the sister of battle exist in this day and age!
>>47010976
its probably a 'woman' or a fag.
they are the ones who get triggered when their little superiors get brought up
>>47010183
Well if you know what you're doing, you can probably work around the relatively short range.
My main concern is that, much like the Hemlock Wraith Fighter, if it jinks you lose the ability to even use said Blasts.
>>47010907
>>47010976
>Cropped porn reaction image
>Sisterfag
>!
>g-guise i know sisters exist am i an oldfag yet?
Yep, this couldn't be any more cliche. typical sister faggot still clinging to his long dead army on /tg/, the only place that still harbors you grognards. .
>>47010907I'm the guy who asked for help and I don't actually like sexualized lollies, in fact lollies ruin sexual things for me.
So space marines go rogue and renegade all the time, why are there no space marines working with xenos in the lore? I mean world eaters would love hanging out with orks (and the orkz would probably love a good scrap with them from time to time), some hedonistic (but non slaneeshi) marines would love a good time with the DEldar, and maybe some might agree with the Tau point of view.
I can't think of a single renegade space marine that hangs out with Xenos though. Is "fukken xenos!" that ingrained into their minds?
>>47011182
you can admit you are gay bro its ok
>>47011034
I think I might give it a chance. Being a flyer helps mitigate the range issue, and a 1/6 chance of ID could be a nice boon.
