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Angels of death PDF scan edition
>Rules databases
https://mega.co.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ
https://kat.cr/warhammer-40k-pdf-library-t9575373.html

>FAQs
http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Rules-Errata

>40k 7th edition quick reference sheet(s)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4104995/Games/7edRef_V7.pdf

>Forgeworld Book index
http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Forge_World_and_Apocalypse_Rules_Index

>White Dwarves
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/tx4hcy4u487pv/WD
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>>46954328
>Angels of death PDF scan edition

Rank and file edition.
Church your bases edition.
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>>46954343
>Autistic Rank and File Debate Edition
Get it right.
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>>46954387

Your pathetic rank and file insult can't phase my officerly cool.
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>>46954343
I'll admit, all of those are better.
Wasn't in a very creative mood, sue me.

Anyways, tell me how you store your models 40k General. What do you keep them in? Where do you store them (a seperate room for a painting station and gaming stuff, just an office in your house, or something else?)
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>>46954315

DW sure look rank and file when the Tau were BLOWING THEM OFF THE FACE OF THE PLANET LIKE GROTS
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I like the aesthetic of the new Ork Flyer, but I already know its a meme in disguise, wat do?
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>>46954439
>seriously quoting fluff

Every force has destroyed every other force.
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>>46954415
Walmart bins. I'll probably end up buying some of these: http://www.walmart.com/ip/Plano-Protector-Series-Four-Pistol-Case/16662942 and putting some rip apart foam in there for my starting up Dark Eldar army.
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I2
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>>46954439
When was this? I remember the Dangles doing this to the Tau once. The Inner Circle must have really wanted to test "rock falls, you die" that day.
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>>46954494
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>>46954415
atm my desk is cluttered due to some basing attempts, i need stronger glue because elmer's isn't gonna cut it unless i prime the miniature. otherwise i keep them in my gaming box, or in a box lined with felt. if i really have them on the backburner they're in my dresser waiting for me to remember them
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>>46954494
Could you stop? We know that they're I2 already, but what do you have to gain from this?
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>>46954494
I wish I could say I didn't immediately recognize that image.
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What's a good medium for buying/selling various 40k merchandise? I have an unopened Assault on Black Reach box I really don't want to put on ebay.
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>>46954460
Well, the good news is, it might be on par with the Dakkajet, so it probably won't be too bad in an Ork army.

That's assuming the new Flyer rules don't fuck it up though.
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>>46954494
>Look mom, I posted it again!

Seriously, Ork players are some of the most respectable players. They have to deal with GW shitting on them all the time and they still love their boyz.
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>>46954555
Amazon's ebay service
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>>46954460

Stop mucking about.
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>>46954523
>>46954542
>>46954550
>>46954571
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>>46954571
>Seriously, Ork players are some of the most respectable players

They also make a percentage of the worst shitposters. Right along with
>Tau
>Eldar
>CSM
>SM

SHIT POSTERS
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P
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>>46954600
Got me to laugh, I guess ill buy 3, thanks anon....
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>>46954555

eBay's the best. Are you trying to avoid seller fees? You can use something like Bartertown or trading forums but everyone there will be trying to Jew you whereas eBay forces people to buy at market or slightly below (or try to win a lucky bid).

The fees from eBay will probably be worth the ease of selling and the increased price you'll get compared to some faggot offering you half of what you would normally get on eBay.
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>>46954571
>Ork players
They're known for being the worse type of player for knowing/understanding rules.

But then again, if they did fully comprehend the rules of the game then they wouldn't be Ork players now wold they?
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>>46954639

I don't see much Eldar posting anymore these days.

SM shitposting is always started by other factions whining about them. Tyranids should also be on the list.

IG and BT used to be on the list.

SoB should be on the list.

And before you say Tau shitposting is defensive, there are active Tau shitposters who pretend Tau aren't OP and who actively stir up shit without provocation.
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The xeno scum of the Green Lantern Core are shifted into 40K space. How does this change the universe? Would they be strong enough to be a faction?
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>>46954666
>eBay makes you pay market price plus shipping

Exactly why no one smart uses it anymore.

There's the occasional good deal, but its not what it used to be. It's a place for sellers to Jew buyers, and for buyers to make PayPal claims against sellers.
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>>46954666

Not trying to avoid fees. Just haven't used ebay in years. It used to be super easy to rip people off. I don't know if that's still the case, but I was just scoping out other options.

I found Bartertown earlier today, but the place seems like a shithole with others expecting me to ship goods without payment. That's not how the world works.
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>>46954705
Yeah because every player who doesnt play Orks knows both the BRB and their codex rules by heart
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>>46954705
>>46954639

I fell that alot of /tg/ players have picked up orks due to hazing of playing other armies and now use orks for an excuse to shitpost. Most of /tg/'s history is filled with
>"Shitpost"
then
>"I play orks :^)"
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>>46954343
>/wip/ memes in my 40k general
yes
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>>46954639
I never see eldar posters shitting it up but I agree with all other choices.

>>46954723
>SoB
Who?
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>>46954806
I hate this logo they used so much, there is already an existing faction with the same type of logo that they could have used. Pic Related
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>>46954782

I think that's some kind of logical fallacy.

He's saying "no ork player knows the rules". What non-ork players do or do not know is irrelevant.

Now, if your claim is "hey faggot, it's not like the non-ork players don't have non-rules-knowing faglords amongst them", then I suppose the counter-argument would be "yeah, but at least ALL orks don't know rules" or "two wrongs don't make a right, read the rulebook you filthy grot".
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Confess your sins, /tg/. Repent for you could die tomorrow.
>>46954786
I don't think the play at all.
>>46954806
I hate seeing that picture.
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>>46954771

He's a seller, so he should definitely use it.

And then get Paypal claimed and forced to refund.
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>>46954863
>this is your last chance to buy this item before THE STAR PHANTOMS FUCKING OBLITERATE IT FROM THE FACE OF THE INTERNET GODDAMN THEIR FIREPOWER IS SO FUCKING HIGH IT JUST STRAIGHT UP ERASES SHIT FROM EXISTENCE SO IF YOU WANT THIS SHIT YOU BETTER BUY IT NOW FAGGOT THE STAR PHANTOMS ARE COMING
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>>46954916
I once wondered what the Fallen were.
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>>46954953
>mfw
>>46954967
They're just marines who fell down the stairs on important battles, citizen. Heretical stairs can't handle the weight of loyalty perfected. Move along.
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>>46954782
Ork players have a reputation of being especially bad.

I'm sure I'm not the only person here who has seen the kind of advice they sometimes give other players. You see them forgetting basic rules suggesting things like charging the turn you outflank, shooting one unit and charging another and shooting fliers with blast weapons.

I'd call it in character if it was still funny.
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>>46954953
Yes! This guy gets it!
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>>46955001
I guess im the exception to the rule as im both the Ork player and the "rules keeper"
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>>46955001

They should implement all that shit.
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How fast does GW replenish out of stock items from their website? I wanted to grab Sgt Telion
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>>46954666
2nd for Bartertown trying to Jew you. It's not terrible to use if you are not worried about waiting a while and having to repost it onto the forums. eBay is hella easier, but you just need to be careful about how you make your auction.
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>>46954782
>>46954909
Jeez, the last sentence was a joke.

>But then again, if they did fully comprehend the rules of the game then they wouldn't be Ork players...
...Because the rules for Orks are complete shit! Orks are shit!
BS2!
LD7!
I2!
They commit suicide when they fail leadership tests!
They have no invulnerable saves!

The list goes on and on.
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>>46954755
They are all about as strong as Magnus, and replaceable, so it depends on how easily they fall to chaos.
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>>46954916
I pop in and out of the hobby every four years or so.

I pop in when I read lore and remember how much I love the 40k universe, I pop out when I go to play and realise who I have to play with.
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>>46955095
Oh and I forgot one last thing
Strength three
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Am I better off taking a normal Bloodthirster from the Chaos Daemons book with a Blade of Blood & Greater Etherblade for +1 S Master-crafted Rampage shenannigans, or going for the new D-strength bloodthirster?
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Post your favorite 30k and 40k character.

Garvy and Cato coming through.
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>Want to make Deathwatch Terminator formation
>Along with 10 terminators need two TH/SS sets, one pair of lightning claws, plasma cannon, SW assault cannon, chainfist and the storm bolters/powerfists
>Plus all the shoulder pads for different chapters
sorry wallet
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I don't mean to start any shit but I am legitimately curious about this.

What is the stance of the Imperium on gay marriage and transexual people?
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>>46955095
>>46955191
You forgot to mentioned their crippling lack of options

Want a plasma gun? Get fucked! Want a power weapon? Better shell 25 points for the klaw!
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>>46955279

40k is my guilty pleasure so I feel free to edgelord it up.

Within reason, of course. No traitors/CSM/Chaos for me please. I like loyal WE/War Hounds more than RG but they don't have any cool loyalist officers. That War Hound Blackshield guy is cool though.
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>>46955362
Are they trying to summon daemons, rape babies, and want to make the Emperor cry? No? They're golden but the local government might not agree.
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>>46955362
As long as it isn't heretical, the Imperium couldn't give less than s hit about what you do. tHere has been no fluff about butt sex and genital manipulation as heretical.
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>>46955270

Always D-thirster, unless you have no use for a D weapon against your normal opponents.

>>46955362

It's literally irrelevant. As long as you're not a heretic or xenos sympathizer you can do whatever the fuck you want. Heterosexual marriage is probably unimportant and insignificant enough as it is.
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>>46955362
The Imperium only cares for this

Are you human? If yes then get ready to repay the blood debt to the Emperor in one way or another. If no then get fucked to death by chainswords. Also pay your taxes, otherwise get raped by bolter fire.
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>>46955362
>>46955430

Remember, the Emperor got rid of all religion until the Imperial Creed popped up. And the Imperial Creed doesn't mention anything about sexuality or marriage, so one can safely assume there are no taboos regarding gender, sexual orientation, or marriage, because all of those stem from old (our) religions.
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>>46955442
Figured. Swinging at initiative 1 just feels obnoxious though, even if it is crushing everything into the dirt.
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>>46955362
There is no overarching imperial law concerning it so it varies from planet to planet.
Some places will be fine with it, some places will flog you to death for it.
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>>46954328
Which guy is the genestealer cultist faction?
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>>46955388

Kaedes is one scary motherfucker. Nykona Sharrowkyn was a pretty badass RG officer, he nearly MLG420-360NOSCOPED Fulgrim and beat Lucius in two duels.
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>>46955270
You can only swap one gift for a weapon in the chaos daemons codex and even if you could you have to choose to use one. If you have a master crafted sword and one that gives you rampage you can choose which to use for which bonus and +1 attack for having 2 weapons.

As for bloodthirsters, the D axe is generally accepted as the best, you can buy other weapons for him to clear away weakers units with suffering I1. I build the unfettered fury bloodthirster with skull reaver and a eather blade which does the same job with much more versitility but less reliability, that's something to consider.
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Could a Marine and Tyranid bro do me a favor and compare any marine next to a Ravener?
I'm trying to build a serpentine Slaaneshi lord and I wanna see if the Ravener tail will fit with a Marine torso.
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>>46955481
>no taboos regarding gender, sexual orientation, or marriage, because all of those stem from old (our) religions.
Literally all that shit is older than any religion of today.
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>>46955481
The most oppressive regime imaginable? Really?
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>>46955668
yes
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>>46955708

Do tell me how you have record of prehistoric data which by definition has no record because it is pre-historical recording.
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>>46955727

We have all those taboos today. You really think we are an "oppressive" society? All the modern day repression comes from shit like Islam anyway.

Ain't nobody being "oppressed" because they aren't being allowed to slice off their penis or marry a faggot.
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>>46955362
The imperium as a whole doesn't care, as it is actually rather lax when it comes to laws, only caring about xenos and heretics. What you're asking is like asking "what is the human species opinion on gays and the mentally ill who mutliate themselves?"
The answer is: it depends.
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>>46955685
The sword that gives Rampage gives Rampage just for having it. No need to swing.

I'll look into the Skull reaver suggestion though.
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>>46955685
>>46955484
>with suffering I1
*without suffering I1

You can choose to use a different weapon, if you have one, and attack at I9.
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>>46955754
What the hell are you talking about? None of the big "religions of today" are prehistoric.

We have historical accounts or records predating all of them. We don't have to dig into prehistory, because there is a period of time between prehistory and the birth of "religions of today."
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>>46955754
>judaism is older than writing
Great b8 mate.
On the off chance you're serious, ancient motherfucking Greeks had marriage and sex and taboos about both. The fucking Romans had them too, so did Sumerians. And Egyptians. And fucking everyone. Taboos are not defined by just religions, but by the whole surrounding motherfucking culture you fucking knob.
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Making a fluffy ork list

How badly will this go if i dont bring mek guns?
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Do the Iron Hands have any named characters?
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>>46955944
Smashfucker
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>>46955708
>>46955881

How is being older even relevant? That it still exists is the point.
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>>46955970
Mate, he's not a real named character. Though he is cool, I'll give ye that.

But really, do they have any?
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Are you guys trying to imply that modern homophobia is due to ancient Babylonian blood cults?

I'm pretty sure it's because of Christianity and Islam etc.
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>>46956020
I'm pretty sure it's because of our monkey brains.
You're getting a little too militant atheist.
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>>46955793
Modern identity politics and /pol/-tumblr turf wars have nothing to do with what that poster was saying. The imperium is described as the "most-oppressive regime imaginable" in the opening blurb of every brb down through most of the editions and a significant amount of black library books have that same intro in the front.

The point is that its hard to believe the "most-oppressive regime" would be so laissez faire about anything let alone sexuality.
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>>46955975
The premise was that taboos are caused by modern-day religions.
Because taboos are older than modern-day religions, the premise must be false.
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>>46955924
Depends on what you're facing, but bad
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>>46956020
Pretty sure its due to the fact that a dude sticking his dick in another dude is weird.
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>tfw canadian
>CSM are STILL out of stock
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>>46956056

I was in the military. During boot camp I didn't feel the urge to jack off even a single day in a 3 month period.

I can easily imagine an oppressive regime where sexuality is irrelevant. These are people who use their own corpses for both food and fuel and where "being innocent does not mean you are innocent".
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Stop derailing and go to >>>/pol/ or else ye better get back on the subject.

Now, on subject, which army do you find the most fun? Doesn't have to be one you currently play, mind you, just one you think is the most fun to play.
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>>46956056

The only time I'm aware of homosexuality even coming up in a Black Library book is Magot and Grifen, the lesbian couple from the Ciaphas Cain series, and no big deal is made about it there.
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>>46956073

Taboos of any given period are caused by the religions of that given period. Makes sense to me. "Our" taboos are caused by "our" religions. "Our" stuff would be old in 40k's time.

>Because taboos are older than modern-day religions, the premise must be false.

That's not true at all. Birds cause bird shit on your car. Because bird shit is older than cars, that means it's not true?
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>>46955924
Probably shouldve posted the list
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>>46956020
Are you trying to imply that everything to do with gender, sexual norms, family dynamics, etc. are the cause of Judeo-Christian religion?

I don't remember very many cultures were open homosexual relationships and marriage was on par with heterosexual ones. Yes, you have cases of dudes fucking dudes, but it wasn't widely regarded as perfectly normal and accepted, or even seen the same way we see it. I mean, dudes fuck dudes in prison all the time without anyone really regarding it as homosexual relationships.
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>>46956144
Taboos are not caused by religions.
Fear and taboos coalesce into religions.
You get out what you put in.
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>>46956146
actually it looks solid, I just hate Buggies so i wouldnt recommend those
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>>46955861
>The sword that gives Rampage gives Rampage just for having it. No need to swing.
It says "The bearer of the blade of blood" has rampage. If we're going by an ultra literal interpretation then unless your unit is called "The bearer of the blade of blood" then he doesn't get rampage.

Or it could mean that if he brings the weapon "to bear" against an enemy he gets rampage. Either way I don't think he gets rampage just for owning the sword.
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>>46956158

Nowhere was it said "everything" was DIRECTLY caused by those religions.

Are you trying to imply that these current issues don't stem from current religions?

>I don't remember very many cultures were open homosexual relationships and marriage was on par with heterosexual ones.

Maybe you should brush up more on your history then.
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>>46956020
Christianity is about living by Christ and actually means loving everyone like Jesus did. Saying that gays are to be hated and stoned is the same as saying that Jesus never died for your sins and that you are to live by the old testament which was meant as punishment for those who lived backed in those time for to repent past sins before the New Covenant along with sacrificial blood.
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>>46956171

How did "yo, don't fuck other guys" turn into stories about splitting oceans and angelic wars?
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>>46956099
Except sexuality isn't irrelevant to the imperium. Sure its not what they directly care about but it is related to their core concern, a constant flow of warm bodies to the front lines. There are surely some strictures and rules about it even if they are mostly related to maintaining the maximum breeding output of a planet.
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>>46956184
>Are you trying to imply that these current issues don't stem from current religions?

Do show me how it's unique to Judeo-Christian religions.

>Maybe you should brush up more on your history then.

Do give examples.
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>>46956184
>>46956171
>>46956144
>>46956158
>>46956142

OUT! OUT, I SAY! TO >>>/pol/ WITH THE LOT OF YE!
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>>46956209
And how would the reverse work?
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>>46955975
I don't even know. I'm not the anon that brought it up, but it's still a dipshit stupid thing to imply that older-than-modern-religion = prehistory.

And I don't particularly give a shit, either. Marriage is a combination of religious ceremony and inheritance law. If you aren't interested in a deity's opinion and you aren't planning on legally binding your estate with another for the purposes of determining ownership of possessions in the event of death or divorce, then marriage is a scam to get you to fork out thousands of doubloons to make a promise to someone.

The Emperor is dead, so his opinion is moot and nonexistent.
The Imperium owns everything anyway, including your soul.

Individual marriage and sex taboos in 40k fall to the individual worlds playing "small" government within the greater imperium.
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>>46956144
Many, many, many, many and even more many of the modern taboos regarding important areas of life such as sex are older than modern-day religions.
So what I am saying is that because bird shit on your car is younger than the car, the bird shit has not given birth to the car.
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>>46956219

When populations are as high as the Imperium is, sexuality is irrelevant. You will have enough hetero breeders regardless. And even worlds that don't will find other ways to generate the flesh tithe.

Human bodies is the ONE resource the Imperium gives NO shits about. It is their largest and most expendable resource. This is explicitly stated over and over in every single source regarding the Imperium and its war machine.
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Geez guys, lets focus on cancerous /tg/ topics instead of /pol/ topics such as

>Tau are a mid tier Codex
>IG are actually just as powerful as tau
>OP image is better without the tau face and chicken needs to be removed because I hate it
>Ork players
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>>46956219
This here is the only reason I think it would be prohibited

>>46955362
Are you happy with what you've done anon? ARE YOU HAPPY
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>>46956222
>Do show me how it's unique to Judeo-Christian religions.

Buddhism. Atheism. Agnosticism. None of those care about homosexuality.

>Do give examples.

Greece.
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>>46956225
I've never understood the idea that /pol/ is made up of different people than those who post on other boards.

You are /pol/, and so am I.
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>>46956144
Digestion causes birdshit on cars. Because digestion is older than birds, birds don't exist.
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>>46956249

Modern religions can be pretty damn old though. Thousands of years BC is pretty fucking old.
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>>46955668
I am shit with paint, but I made a mod of one. Just paint the helmet purple and put it where the chicken is.
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>>46956177
If it said 'the bearer of the shield of blood has rampage' and the 'shield of blood' just gave a 4+ invuln, would that be any different?
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>>46956252

Right, but if the Emperor were to come and destroy all birds, there wouldn't be a bird shit problem. Why are you guys thinking there would be bird shit in 40k if there are no birds?

Or if you want to use the car as the analogy, why do you guys think bird shit on cars is a problem if the Emperor got rid of all cars?
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>>46955668
To quote the wise Aussie shitposters:
Fuck off we're full
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>See new /40kgen/ in catalog
>"this one has to be better than the last 26 gens"
>first reply I see is >>46956187


ffs guys is this the new standard? Shitposting drives away people that come here to post actual content. This is the future you chose.
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>>46956146
Looks pretty solid, I wouldn't give your boss cybork if he's going with the pain boy though.
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>>46956284
Some sects of Buddhists and most Hindus do.
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>>46956284
>Atheism is a religion
>Greeks didn't have taboos on marriage
Oh my fucking God. Ancient Greeks had taboos on homosexuality.
Mainly that being the underling is faggy as shit.
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>>46956305

Digestion = Religion
Bird shit = Taboos

You didn't even define birds, so nice try with your moronic parody.
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>>46956315
No need. There's already a nid.
We don't need yet another week of bickering over a stupid OP image, just let the three be switched between.
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>>46956315
I love it. Can we give him a little genestealer claw, too?
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>>46956353
kill your self, you aren't helping the problem
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>>46956332
Religion is not the fucking single reason for taboos to exist. The whole society and culture are the things which generate taboos.
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>>46956353

Bird shit edition.
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>>46956306
>thousands of years BC is old

You don't say. Say hello to my sample of acastic gneiss.
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>>46956374
>Atheism is a religion

It is. At least the way the atheists go about it. Otherwise it wouldn't be called atheism, it'd be called agnosticism or "being a normal human being." Something the fedoras don't understand. It's like how feminism isn't actually about equality. Otherwise it'd just be called fucking equality, or humanism.
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>>46956209
First, learn what "coalesce" means.

Second, you do know that holy texts are not just someone making shit up on the spot, but collections of long held beliefs regarding all manner of things.

You know how in old vampire stories garlic, silver and running water like rivers can be used to stop and hurt vampires? Because they're considered holy. Because in time people have noticed that silver and garlic have healing properties and you don't get as sick from drinking running water as you do standing water. And the simple fact is that solver and garlic do have antiseptic properties (some hospital equipment even have silver coating) and if you've done any wilderness survival, you know to drink running water and not standing, because it doesn't have all sorts of bacteria brewing in it.

Religious dogmas regarding how to live your life didn't just spawn out of nothing because "any other way is wrong". A lot of things were purely discovered to work best that way and not the other. Of course there's things that have become outdated, but I think there's a lot that people in old times knew that we're slowly beginning to realize weren't such dogmatic and narrow minded views on the world.
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>>46956359
Painboys going with the mob of boys not the boss.
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Hey guys im confused, what Str would this Thunderwolf Calvary be?
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>>46956177
Except you roll for how many Rampage attacks you get before you chose what weapon you're using. There's no way to read it otherwise.
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>>46956331
I wouldn't say so. The difference is that in 40k a unit can bring a shield "to bear" against an enemy along side a weapon while the rules state you must pick a single weapon to attack with in melee.
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>>46956408

Religion is absolutely the reason they persist. If society doesn't grow to eliminate ancient and outdated taboos, it's only because religion is still a part of that society.
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Japanu Guard faction?
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>>46955362
Mutilation of the human form would be seen as degenerate, and mindsets that distract imperial citizens from performing their required tasks would be harshly dealt with, regardless of its cause. I doubt they have any specific laws against either, but the Imperium isn't exactly a place where people have the time to think about anything other than grueling labor in service of their Emperor.

that said, the upper echelons are going to be filled with a bunch of disgusting old monsters who do whatever they want regardless of the consequences because of their immense personal/political power. Imperial Justice will find them eventually.
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>>46956410
>hur dur the Earth is older than humans

Is this what it means to be autistic? To not realize we're talking about human constructs? It's okay, you can keep playing with your shiny rock collection though.
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Tau are pretty under powered, its fucking gay we don't get psyker powers.

I think tau would be alot better if instead all troops started out with bs4 and go up from there to represent how much better the targeting system they have is in comparison to the rest of the imperium. Also, all skimmers should have av14/13/13 and should be able to have a 4+ save against melta/armourbane.

Another thing that makes me mad is how over costed suits are. Each suit fully kited out should cost 35 points max per model and have 4 wounds. Also a 3+ save instead of a 4+ to represent how far advanced tau armour is.
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>>46956462
And what if it was 'the bearer of the standard of blood'?

You aren't bringing that 'to bear' against anyone. You're just 'bearing' it. Bearing doesn't necessitate using.
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>>46956466
Be honest, you're just now getting into Sam Harris, aren't you?
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>>46956441
>implying God didn't make the Bible up on the spot and tell some dudes to chisel it in rocks and ink it down on sheepskin

Fucking heretics.
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>>46956466
>>>/pol/
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>>46956495
Sorry you thought a few thousand years was a long time bro.

Even sorrier that you got butthurt when called out on it.
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>>46956446
The new FAQs would be up around this days probably, until then I'll higly recommend you to get to agreement with your gaming group before playing with them.
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>>46956446

This super plain, totally un-wolfed up marine riding a TW really shows how ridiculous the whole Space Wolf wolf wolf wolf thing is. Could've just easily put that guy on a bike and he'd look pretty badass.
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>>46956435
What the fuck? Are you implying that religious folk aren't "normal human beings"?
Atheism literally just means "without god". It's the lack of faith in any belief system. Antitheism is being against god(s) and that could be described as a religion, however. And a lot of fedorafags come up as being edgy antitheists rather than mere atheists, I'll give you that.
>>46956466
(You)
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>>46956513
>you're just now getting into Sam Harris
>getting "into" someone

Sorry I don't waste my time on stuff like that. I'm going to assume he's some Carl Sagan type guy.

I don't need to read about others' opinions because in this moment, I am enlightened by my own intelligence.
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>>46956549
However if the marine was "wolfed" up then the meme would still be there...
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>>46956498
Nah. Move markerlight application to the psychic phase and let it apply the whole turn.
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>>46956404
Someone sure can, I have done my part. Just trying to make his helmet look good took me 30 minutes.
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>>46956531
>mfw I purposely set out today to make the least butthurt posts possible and to give as little of a shit as humanly possible
>some guy still calls me butthurt

Lol I guess I proved my theory, but it's not like I really needed to validate it. Perhaps it's because you're the one whose butthurt about your dumb little stone?

You could've just picked up a rock from somewhere outside instead of buying that, and you'd still have something created from the atoms of the Big Bang.
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>>46956466
>dialike of a dick in a dudes ass is outdated
(You)
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>>46956607
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>>46956635

Get with the times. It's also passe to be white and hate niggers for acting like niggers.
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>>46956284
>Buddhism.

There's restrictions and bans.

>Atheism. Agnosticism.

Not religions.

>Greece.

Homosexual relationship between two adult men was not like between a man and a woman. For a man to assume the passive and feminine role of the bottom was not highly regarded.
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>>46956653

Says the guy still posting. And just accusations and images at that.

>actually bothering to have a "u mad" folder

Damn son how butthurt do you get that you have to have this stuff at the ready to deflect onto others?

inb4 guaranteed response
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Man, I wish orkz were as good as the beast series wants to make them look, I mean I understand they aren't as refined as the other races but at least make them tougher to reflect their dangerous aspect of the race.
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>>46956718
>replying is being butthurt
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>>46956736
I should really read those books
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>>46956736
Unbound, play all warbosses and Big Meks?
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>>46956736
the only base stat change orks really need are T5 nobs.

The rest is a lack of good options and really janky points costs on the shitty options.
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>>46956783
Toughness 5 Nobs, Toughness 6 warbosses. Make it a steady curve upwards of Strength, Toughness, Initiative, and Attacks.
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Really, do the Iron Hands have any characters? The Sons of Medusa have one FW character, but that's all I've found, and that annoys me.
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>>46956777
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>>46956810
I mean orks are supposed to get bigger as they get better, right? Having the roughest and toughest wounded like regular boyz just never felt right, even with 2W.
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>>46956777
How many Warbosses would it take to make something resembling an actual army though? Could you even effectively use them in the same way you would Nobs?
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>>46956817
Nope
Yeah it's dumb. If the next codex is going to add anything, it should be the Iron Hands Master of the Forge with a bunch of neat repair and vehicle-related gear/rules the way Tigurius has cool psyker gear/rules
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>>46956498
Suits do have 3+ ya dingus. Broadsides even have a 2+. You're not even a real Tau shitposter, you're a phony!
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>>46956810
Ork warbosses and nobz should receive a rule to ignore unwieldy, adeptus mechanicus have a pseudo SaP without the drawbacks of it allowing them to overwatch, why not giving orks a rule to ignore unwieldy? I3/4 CC attacks aren't game breaking with current state of bullshit 40k already has.

I know pic related isn't 40k buth it looks like a great base for a warboss.
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Alright, GW has given you the power to swap the color schemes of any two chapters, retconning what they had before.

Which chapters' colors are swapped?
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>>46956969
>Psuedo SnP

You mean Relentless?
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>>46956939
There would be very few of them, but megabosses actually cost less per wound than meganobs (33 vs. 40) and cheaper/tougher than nob bikers if you go that route.

Big Meks on bikes make for artillery spam if you use shokk attacks gunz, and everyone can cheap kombi weapons.

Would it be good? I would need to play it to know. But it sounds like fun.
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>>46956999
Novamarines and Aurora Chapter
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I take my little brother to games workshop. I buy him his first model we play a couple games with my armies. He wants Chaos bikers cool, So I get him the dark vengeance kit and a codex we are having fun and I'm Reading his codex and realize he needs a couple chaos spawn for boon charts and shit. Ok That will a good birthday present, IT'S 45 USD after taxes for 2 fucking spawn! I go on miniswap and get and land raider for 45$. Thank GeeDubs I tried to do it your way and support my store.
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>>46957005
No, I mean the kataphrons guys, they have technically slow and purposeful but bot the rule itself to allow them to shoot during overwatch.
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>>46957030
Make a chaos spawn out of random leftover bits and greenstuff
That's more or less what the current chaos spawn models, are, barring anusfaceman
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>>46956969
Might as well. Initiative Powerklaws would probably make up for their lack of any other decent melee weapons.

I actually really like the Maw Krusha. It's surprisingly cool.
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Can anyone explain why cult mechanicus and skitarii are seperate codexes? I haven't looked into them that much but it seems like GW is double dipping on admech codexes.
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>>46957008
Hmm...that would also mean it'd be easier to fit more 'wounds' and 'attacks' into the same transport space as well, although I'm not sure if a Battlewagon is the best move.

Still, it sounds really awesome.
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Dark Eldar players wear Jnco.
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What if grenades weren't just an assault modifier, but an actual weapon?
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>>46957091
So you can ally Skitarii easier with other factions along with scions. I hear they are going to make another codex with both admech and skitarri soon
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>>46957121
They are though? Nobody is preventing you from using them. S 4 blasts can be decent in the right circumstance, especially if all you're giving up is firing a pistol or whatever.
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>>46957091
gw wanted more money
>>46957121
??
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>>46957139
how exactly does having two seperate codexes make it easier to ally them in? surely one codex (with an actual hq choice so you can use the allied detachment) would have made things more concise
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>>46957073
As well as any worthwhile armour save, GW could also give rules to the electric saw big choppas to be ap3, would it kill them to give decent CC weapons to orkz? Fucking genestealer cult have power hammers.

I know right? He looks perfect for a snake bite Klan
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>>46956969
I really like that creature he's riding....
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I want to make a Space Marine army.

But I'll never be able to decide what chapter I want to do.
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Hey fa/tg/us
I'm feeling down and I just got paid. I've got 100 bucks. Dubs decides what I buy. Don't include shipping cost. I'm not trying to make enemies, so no super heavies. No metal or finecast. Will post pictures when they arrive.

TlDR;
>100 dollars
>No super heavies
>No metal or Fincastle
>Dubs decides.
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Guys, what if Ork transports "Every single transport" could hold unlimited units? Such as the transport capacity on the inside fills out, every extra ork can "Hitchhike a ride" where they latch onto the vehicle. Each 5 orks is -1 inches you can move and each ork can take a hit for the transport and has to make its toughness test. If it passes, the ork dies. If it fails, the ork dies and the transport takes the wound,
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>>46957187
Yeah. It baffles me that they have 2 weapons on their list. They can't even get better than AP 5 without being unweildly. Basic power weapons or some equivalent would be sweet.

Yeah. Only trouble is that it's so big there's nothing good to count it as
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>>46957091
They used skitarii to see how popular would be the army, when both of them succeeded they probably decided to blend them release more models and make us pay for them.


I for one welcome our mechanical overlords
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But they aren't necessarily the same army. They are like separate factions inside of the mechanicum. Blood Angles vs Guard. Each has their own codex and usually where their is space marines, there are guard as well.
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>>46957241
Ask yourself 3 questions

1) What's your favorite Space Marine unit?

2) What's your favorite battle strategy?

3) What's your favorite color?
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>>46957121
I don't know, but I just came up with a grenade that would help assault armies.
Smoke Grenade: Throws down a cover a smoke that the assaulting unit charges through.

You must declare that you are throwing smoke grenades when you declare a charge. After your opponent rolls to hit in overwatch, but before they roll to wound, your opponent must re-roll successful to-hit rolls in overwatch. All modifiers that affect to-hit rolls in overwatch still apply in the second roll.
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>>46957250
A rope to kill yourself with
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>>46957265
Make it a bit less ridiculous: You can choose to have an second unit on the outside of the transport, and they give a 4+ cover save to the transport. Whenever it succeeds the save though, an Ork dies.
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>>46957250
what army do you play
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>>46957250
What army/armies do you play? I need to know this.
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When putting a template over a vehicle does it have to be centered on the vehicle or can it be placed over any part of it?
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>>46957250

Dubs has it.
>>46957344
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>>46957348
>>46957359

SM/CSM/Deamons
Willing to get a new army too. Orks are prefrables, but I'm up for anything
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>>46957250
Buy the genestealer cult off of Ebay for $85 and be awesome.
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>>46957344
WinraR!

>>46957250
OP better deliver
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>>46957250
A dreadknight
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>>46957320
1. Probably Devastators, I like Heavy Bolters and Heavy Weapons in general, and they seem cool.

Or Dreadnoughts, if we go fluff-wise.

2. I'd say having heavy armor/survivability and being able to lay down impressive firepower.

3. I actually don't know this one.
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>>46957250
>>I WANT ORKS
>>NO FINECAST OR METAL
Get some nurglings. They look adorable and fun to paint. How could you ever be sad with nurglings
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Rolled 1 (1d2)

>>46957400
Hmmm.....

Get the Skitarii Start Collecting or the Imperial Guard Start Collecting, I like them both, fluff-wise and on the tabletop.

>1 means IG
>2 mean AdMech.
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>>46957250
Instead of killing yourself with a rope, you're now the owner of a Start Collecting! Orks!
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>>46957532
No dubs, no good.
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>>46957498
Imperial Fists or their successors.

Reroll 1s with Bolters, and Devastators get Tank hunters, so Heavy Bolter devs are actually viable, and other Devastators with Heavy weapons get better as well.

Heavy armor and firepower is Fists all the way.
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>>46957534
Is there a difference?
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>>46957573
That's the point! He can experience all the despair and depression without the pain of a rope! Reroll!
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Is this game worth getting? I'm not sure I'm ready to invest in imperial knights yet.
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>>46957400
Checkem for a second rope to hang yourself with
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>>46957589
Well, you are paying around 60-80$ per knight depending where you go for a 155$ model with free scenery
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>>46957589
If you want two Knights, it's worth it. If you want 1, it's worth splitting with someone.
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>>46957560
Yeah, I was thinking either them or the Iron Hands.

I still can't decide on which color scheme to go with, I've seen a few that look good, and while I love the Imperial Fists colors, I am not sure about painting yellow, I've been told that it is quite hard, as well as me being inexperienced with painting.
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>>46957588
But, no. Seriously, OP. Get the Start Collecting! AdMech. It's a great box and a fun army.
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Would a house rule saying that The Cloak of Saint Aspira allows the canoness to reroll her Rosarius (4+) invulnerable save if she takes it make her OP? Or would it just bring her in line with the other two HQ options? She's for sure the weakest of the three.
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>>46957650
You can always come up with your own.
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Thinking of including terminators with my TS army. The only question is, do I convert Chaos terminators with their tusks, vanilla SM Terminators, or the pre-heresy Cataphractii?
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>>46957658
Nah. We give the Swarmlord Eternal Warrior over here.
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In Stronghold Assault, do Obstacles bought for a fortification (such as a tank trap) need to be deployed as a single (up to 6") piece or can it be broken down to several pieces (totaling 6")?

Breaking it down seems like it could be abused. Like deploying a mesh of tiny slivers of tank traps, spaced close enough to not allow most vehicles to pass through them, but in small enough pieces and far enough from one another to fully surround the fortification.
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>>46957498
Go for StarPhantoms. Sick logo, Colour Scheme, character that makes devastators both heavy support and elite troop choices, and one turn of twin link shooting ARMY WIDE.
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Alright. I'll do a vote off. 5 votes wins. Starts collecting + one extra kit (first one to say picks, no more than 30 bucks). Goooo!
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>>46957658

She is also the cheapest so of course she should be the weakest.
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>>46957675
True enough, though I'm an autist who prefers canon over homebrew. I'd probably go with Crimson Fists, but for some reason their color scheme bugs me, and I don'tknow why.
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>>46957498
>>46957560
Imperial fists are my shit and hell yeah BUT

You should also consider:

STAR PHANTOMS: DROP POD IN AND BLOW YOU THE FUCK OUT, DEVASTATORS ON DEVASTATORS WOO

IRON HANDS: SUPER SURVIVABLE, DREADNOUGHTS FOREVER, ARMOR AND VEHICLES ARE THE BEST THINGS EVER, DID I MENTION SURVIVABLE?

also, check out the siege assault vanguard list.

Also... Iron Warriors...


>>46957250
Hey.
>>46957534
This is absolutely the best choice.
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>>46957686

Should probably wait for the 30k thousand son terminators.
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>>46957736
probably the primary colors
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>>46957724
Well yes, but even upgrades to an equivalent point cost of Uriah or Celestine she underperforms
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>>46957696
I should add. I will give them a custom paint scheme, and play a campaign against my brother. Battle reports and possible writefagging if it pleases the voters.
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>>46957250
>just got his paycheck
>only has $100 in spending money
>/tg/ tries to claim they aren't poor when they whine about GW prices
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>>46957761
>heaping tons of points of wargear on the shittiest cheap HQ

That's not the point of that HQ. Although SoB do need a "good" customizable HQ. Maybe a Chapter Master equivalent to the Canoness's Captain.
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>>46957792
SoB need a lot of things

Like plastics
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>>46957284
Wich us ridiculous for a race dedicated only for war and GW could even sell upgrade kits with this weapons.

warboss and retinue in bikes perhaps?, the nobz on bike would be the wyvern, with power klaws to represent the wyvern strength, a pity we don't have anything that truly flights
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>>46957696
Admech and an extra box of Rangers. Runs you about $115 at GW prices or sub $100 if you get it from discounted LGS/Ebay/Online Retailer.
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>>46957792
The title you're looking for is canoness superior
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>>46957696
>>46957765
AdMech start collecting, go for something close to the Steel Confessors scheme and claim that they're from Forgeworld Kalevala, the Steel Confessors homeworld.

And the Skitarii transfer sheet, because the only other Skitarii kits are $39+.
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>>46957650
If you're sticking to Fist successors...

Astral Knights, Celestial Lions, Crimson Fists, Crusaders of Dorn, Death Strike, Emperor's Warbringers, Excoriators, Executioners, Fire Lords, Fists Exemplar, Hammers of Dorn, Honoured Sons, Invaders, Iron Fists, Iron Knights, Knights of Dorn, Red Templars, Shadow Wolves, Sons of Dorn, Soul Drinkers , Subjugators and White Templars. A gorillion color schemes.

IMO Invaders and the Hammers of Dorn are the prettiest.
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Alright, two for admech so far.
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>>46957693
>>46957743
Star Phantoms seem pretty cool, and I do like the Iron Hands.

>>46957743
Let me check the Siege Assault Vanguard list, and what do you mean by Iron Warriors?
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>>46954639
>Shitposters
>Lists the 4 most popular armies in the game

Maximumbait.jpeg
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>>46957914
This guy knows what's up.

Hammers of Dorn have a sweet color scheme, and the Invaders have some sweet fluff.
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>>46957818
post your face when sisters get plastic
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>>46958043
I don't play sisters, but their plastic will be all muh powered armour henchmen
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>>46957944
Just sayin bro, maybe you're feelin a little heretical today. It's cool. Maybe you wanna drive over your enemy in a vindicator covered in the blood of your own expendable men while shelling yourself at danger close. It's cool. Maybe you wanna decimate your army to show em who's boss. It's cool.

Just a suggestion in case you wanted to be a heretic instead but do basically the same tactics.

Siege assault vanguard is pretty baller but it is a bit limiting. You gotta have a siege lord and you gotta always lay siege to a siege objective or you lose the game. You get access to a gorillion heavy and siege type weapons and slots and you can put shields on all your dudes to make em ded ard.
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>>46958043
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>>46957696
DA ORKS
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>>46958140
True enough, I do love their color scheme, but I'm not one for chaos, sorry, heretical thoughts just ain't going to work for me!

Looking at it, it seems pretty cool.
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