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So I've yet to see this posted up here yet but It's become quite a big card game as of the last few months. I've enjoyed playing it quite a bit. I've got a regional coming up and I wanted to see what all everyone is playing OTHER than Alice's World.
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>>46938823
>posting worstbutt
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I've been trying to get into it. What's the best way to start? Just buy some boosters, the intros or just order a bunch of singles?
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So how does this game work? And how should I start?
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>>46939072
Essentially, the best bet is to buy a Starter Deck for $15 online or a local shop. The starter decks are really good so far. Arla has the best one for the current meta. But to play in competitive you'll eventually have to buy singles. www.fowtavern.com has a lot of good decks.
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>>46939095
Imagine Magic Meets Yugioh. You have two decks. One which holds your stones(Mana) and Your main deck which you draw from each turn. You have a Ruler who is essentially like a Commander in EDH Magic. It takes a bit to get used to, but it's worth looking into.
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>>46938823
Are there more quality butts like these in this game? If there are, I might have to look into this.
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>>46939146
Well, I try to get into every CCG I can, so I'll give it a shot.

I'll probably base my choice of starter deck on waifu, though.
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>>46939129
>>46939146
So is an non-attribute Machine deck viable?
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>>46939169
Right now, she has the best ass shown in the game. She is know as Booty Mage. We have something called Booty Cat too.
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>>46939129
Are these dual-attribute/legendary stones going to fucktuple in price like the MTG equivalent did?
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>>46939171
I honest build a deck around a character I liked as well and now everyone at my local shop hates me.
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>>46939327
The next set that comes out in June literally has some of the most OP cards we've seen in this game so far that are machines. One which cannot be destroyed without literally summoning Hitler from his grave.
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>>46939340
We're not sure yet. We do know that they might not get a reprint since certain things haven't got reprints. We also know that they will have a Standard Rotating League and a Legacy League, so there is a high chance.
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>>46939356
So...yes?
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>>46939367
Should I buy them up, then?
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>>46939375
Essentially yes. But why not throw in some crazy cards with attributes when this exists.
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>>46939392
I'd probably buy a playset of 4 if anything. They'll still go up in price with the legacy format coming out.
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>>46939356
So this card costs 10 colourless to cast right? How big is 2000/2000? A 20/20 in Magic?
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If anything, the card artwork is great.
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>>46939336
>quality butts
>literally two enormous spherical domes
>no gravity, no indication of softness/firmness, just two monolithic spheres
You niggers never actually saw a butt in your entire life or what
Jesus fuck, that art reminds me of that retarded news story when doctor injected cement in his patient's ass to make it bigger.
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>>46939432
Yes. It's essentially a 20/20 in magic.
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We also get Seasonal and Holiday Promos.
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>>46939356
To be fair Machines up until this point have been shit-tastic outside of Machina's one-shot-wonder super turn, which was tier 2 optimistically.

New machine stuff is cool and might bring Machine decks up to "actually playable" tier, but I'm not soiling my pantaloons in fear over it.

I play B/R religiously and have to win through at least two Arthurs in every local I go to, I can deal with Darksteel Colossus-lite.
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>>46939356
So it's like Dark Steel Colossus, except with affinity for artifacts?

I can't see how this can go wrong.
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>>46939432
It's roughly a 10/10 in magic terms. Starting life in FoW is 4000, and creatures are roughly 2x as big as their MTG equivalents.
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>>46939474
Currently I'm running my Gill Lapis Control and I've enjoyed it a lot compared to playing anything in the Grimm Block. What's your Deck List if you don't mind posting it?
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>>46939443
By which you mean 10/10.
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>>46939476
I don't think it can go wrong but when a lot of our removal spells get rotated out in October, it could be a bit of a small problem. Though FoW seems to be prepared with something.
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>>46939500
Yes, I hit 2 instead of 1 by accident.
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>>46939441
The great thing about butts and breasts is that there is no singular right answer. They come in all shapes and sizes, due to an incredibly diverse interplay of muscle, fat, ligaments, and bones.

Some people do have "gravity-defying" breasts or cheeks because of them having more supporting ligaments and muscles. Add that to the license all illustrators have to exaggerate and stylize, and there's really nothing to complain about.

There are no wrong breasts. There are no wrong asses.
All is wonderful.
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>>46939460
Awesome.
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This has to be my favorite Promo so far.
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>>46939572
Awww, she's adorable.
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>>46939572
How does one get a promo like this? Is it just through the Will Power System or are they found in packs?
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>>46939497
Ruler: Gill Lapis
Main:
4x Illusory Demonic Globe
3x Witch of the Night
4x Dark Faria
3x Lillith
3x Lucifer
4x Thunder
4x Call of Primogenitor
4x Space-Time Collapse
4x Burn to Cinders
4x Flame of Outer World
2x Pitch Black Moon
1x Robe of Fire Rat

Sideboard:
3x Deathscythe
3x Barrier of Shadows
2x Robe of Fire Rat
2x Schrodinger's Cat
2x Awakening at the End
2x Mephistopheles, the Abyssal Tyrant
Dark Alice

Stones:
4x Scorched Bales
3x Moon Shade
2x Black Moon's Memoria
1x Little Red the Pure Stone

I take first most of the time at my locals, though it should be noted that my deck is tuned fairly specifically for my local meta, your mileage may vary, though I don't feel like it's too abnormal since we've got our share of mostly competent people who aren't afraid to netdeck.

Fun fact, my record for number of times casting Lucifer in a game is 8, against a R/R Naya control deck.
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>>46939617
Usually I buy mine online. But they are distributed to stores or at events. They're fairly cheap. $5 when they first come out and usually end up around the $3 margin a few months after.
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>>46939129

I'll look into that tonight, thanks.

What is the current meta like and do the elements have enforced attributes like the colors in Magic do or is it more just aesthetic?
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>>46939640

3x Cheshire
2x Lucifer
2x Valentina, Puppet Monarch
1x Arthur Pendragon
1x Rapid Decay
3x Thunder
2x Space-Time Collapse
1x Barrier of Shadows
4x Flame of Outer World
3x Space-Time Anomaly
2x Stoning to Death
2x Voice of the False God
2x Dream of Juliet
2x Sign to the Future
1x Pitch Black Moon
4x Artemis, the God’s Bow
1x Laevateinn, the Demon Sword
2x Interdimensional Vessel, Apollo
2x Illusory Demonic Globe, The Earth
Stone Deck
4x Ruler’s Memoria
4x Magic Stone of Moon Shade
1x Grusbalesta, the Sealing Stone
1x Magic Stone of Dark Depths

This is what I'm smashing with right now. It's
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>>46939693
Essentially the current meta is circling around 2 Rulers called Yggdrasil and Reflect/Refrain. You can have any colors you want as long as you can produce the mana like in Magic.
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>>46939396
Should I just buy this to start?
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>>46939785
It has some really good cards in it for the up coming set in June. It's a nice set to play with and I enjoyed it personally. I'd say go for it if you're looking to make a machine deck in the future.
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>>46940006
Great, thanks.
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>>46940020
No problem.
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I'm going to my first tourney today. I have no idea what my meta is.

>>46939436
I disagree. It's all really hit or miss. Some are good. Some are just bad.
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I've gotten addicted to this fucking game. Shoot me and end my misery...
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>>46940203
I've enjoy most of the art work for it other than one Promo which is this one.
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>>46940313
I would but then I couldn't chase it.
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>>46939545
It would've looked a lot more natural if it was just a bit smaller.

Right now it looks like one of thse Tumblr OC things, where they draw their favorite part twice the size of the rest of the body.

tl;dr - it's shit
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>>46939736

What I meant is like in Magic most mechanics are tied primarily to one color. Like green has the most creatures with trample, red has the most burn spells, blue has the most to do with drawing cards, etc.
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>>46940462
That's really all just you saying "I don't like big butts." With an "any art I don't like is tumblr" thrown in.

At least if you had said deviantart I could have almost taken you semi-seriously.
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>>46940504
Ahhh I get ya now. Essentially it's like that for certain things. Red is burn. Blue has a lot of draw power. Green has life gain. But there are quite a number of things that change it up in each set. Red usually stays the same though.
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Did I forget to mention Mats?
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>>46942151
Mats are great. I'm enjoying the Kagura magical girl one.
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>>46942349
I love the Shion mat for Hong Kong's Tournaments.
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Pulled this full art yesterday. It's my first one.
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>>46939356
The golem isn't the card people should care about, its the beast. If you use the new machina ruler and somehow have all four of his terrible memoria on board, your J-activate nets you: a marybelle, two machinas, and a clockwork soldier. The machinas search a beast and a march, beast drops for free, march plays for free. Thats enough for game if literally everything is perfect.

That said, the old machina is definitely better than the new one unless some card or game mechanic that puts memorias into play for free comes out.
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>>46940633
I like big butts (and i cannot lie).
I like them when they're proportioned to the rest of the body.
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>>46943207
Hey they're literally bring affinity to this game. Wonder if we're going to see an arcbound ravager. Its almost like mirridon standard.
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>>46943044
I'm actually running one of those in my current deck.
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>>46943353
(Different Anon.)
Different strokes for different folks man. I know a few girls with natural proportions greater or equal to that and I think they're hot as hell. One in particular was really into tennis and her ass was just like the OP pic, but with bigger breasts by maybe a cup? The card really isn't anything bad seeing as its not intended to be photo realistic to real life.
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>>46943207
This counts as a Machine btw.
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I wish that this game had some players where I live, since it seems interesting. I've seen the packages in stores, but never seen anyone buying them.
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Is there a Standard rotation in this game?
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>>46944084
Not super knowledgeable, but there is A rotation. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Origins-this is legacy.
Valhalla-Valhalla set only. Similar to saying "MTG alpha cards only"
Grimm-Grimm set only. similar to "Ravnica only"
New Frontier-Newest two clusters (blocks). This is standard. Grimm Rotates out in September ...next year I believe? Maybe this year? Somebody more qualified than me should probably be answering.
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>>46944490
September this year
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>>46944490
Also they announced Wanderer which will be like Legacy. Everything from Grimm on words will be playable in it.
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Yes, as said, there will be a Standard and Legacy format. Standard has a Rotation when a new Block comes out essentially.
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I want to fuck Piruruk.
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>>46947377
>>46947473
EDH when
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>>46947978
People are working on a custom EDH style game mode for it as well.
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>>46943739
Know that you've made someone feel incredibly stupid today, anon.
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Is there any good youtube channel for FOW yet?
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>>46947766
I'd rather an Iona, but it's nice to see you again
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>>46950616
How so?
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>>46951082
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtwx1OTVawyBv6OHQMoXBHA
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I haven't played since Bahamut fucked everything up and, from what I can tell, now Reflect is currently fucking everything up again.

I just want to play a nice control deck but I'm not interested in Reflect. Is the meta as rigid as it seems? Does my old Scheherazade deck stand anything of a chance? Is it better I just wait it out until Reflect fucks off the meta?
Are Six Sages usable yet?

How'd they eventually sort out Bahamut anyways? I heard in sort of vague terms that they just introduced some sort of counter to Laevateinn.
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>>46952382
six sages is pretty gud. provides deck lists and games with commentary.
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What's the best Ruler to run with a WR Knights of the Round deck, Blazer?
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>>46952353
I've been playing Machina for two months and didn't realize that. Almost every game I've lost has been because I thought I didn't have five machines for march.
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>>46953944
reflect is also good it doesn't fix your mana but it lets you filter or pump one of your guys each turn witch is great in the aggro matches
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>>46955242
I still don't quite understand how Reflect works exactly.
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>>46955268
Someone mentioned that you could play Force of Will online via Untap.in, but is there a gatherer tool, or some sort of card database to look at?
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Can someone tell me what all is going out of rotation this September when the new stuff comes out?
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>>46957034
Grimm cluster.
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>>46957150
Is Vingolf part of that?
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>>46957199
Yes. There should be another Vingolf-like set at some point near the rotation.
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>>46958133
Well, there goes a lot of my useful magic stones.
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So there's no easy to use card database for FoW and I have to dig through the Wiki?
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>>46958181
There is going to be eternal formats. These Alpha-tier dual lands aren't going anywhere.
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>>46958362
Honestly, I just use things like TCG player and flip through the cards and such.
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>>46958476
Well I decided to flick through the wiki and look at a couple Rulers to learn subsets of the card that way and now I'm rather upset. Vlad Tepes is both a shitty card and extremely disappointing art-wise. Kill me now.
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>>46958659
That's Vingolf in general.
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>>46958659
That's because she's from Vingolf, a one-off set that was a tie-in product to a japanese mobile game or some shit, and isn't representative of the rest of the game.

>shitty card
I mean, she's consistently been tier 1.5 tournament viable, so you might just have brain problems.
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>>46958437
Mainly want to play competitive, so losing those is going to hurt a bit till I can see what work a rounds will be in the new bits. Not sure how much it'll affect my Knights of the Round deck, but it can only end well.
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>>46958739
What. To put in mtg terms she's an card that reads "2: this card deals 1 damage to target opponent, you gain 1 life"
Although, I guess she's also a 4/5 with conditional exile that kills a low cost creature on ETB. Is that really powerful in FoW?
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>>46958874
>Although, I guess she's also a 4/5 with conditional exile that kills a low cost creature on ETB. Is that really powerful in FoW?
No, actually. Decks that win with her sometimes don't even have the black mana to flip her.

They just mana ramp their balls off and drain you to death.
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>>46958901
That seems really weird to me. Huh. Thanks anon
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So how do Magic Stones work? Only 4 of the same name like with other cards or any number? If so, what's the difference between the "Magic Stone of Darkness" and "Darkness Magic Stone"?
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>>46959430
>what's the difference between the "Magic Stone of Darkness" and "Darkness Magic Stone"?
There isn't one, they cleaned up the wording at some point but they're the same card.

>So how do Magic Stones work? Only 4 of the same name like with other cards or any number?
Yes, except for basic magic stones which aren't limited to 4.
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>>46959430
Generic stones like Magic Stone of Darkness you can have as many as you want of as long as your total number of stones is between 10 and 20. The 4 card limit only applies to "Special Magic Stones" like the dual color stones, memorias, and such. Basically, if it says anything other than just "Magic Stone" at the bottom of the card where the card type is listed, you can only have 4.

Darkness Magic Stone and Magic Stone of Darkness are just different translations, they're effectively the same card.
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I play magic for the flavor.

Explain the flavor. I might like this more than magic if the lore is good because I like butts.
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is it legal to have different resonator / rulers of the same characters on the field at the same time?
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>>46961401
Yes it's legal, there is no character exclusivity.
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>>46938823
Bullshit. You've been posting the same thread with the same picture and opening multiple times. Maybe you should be honest instead.
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>>46961667
What I'm wondering is if it's just one guy shilling this shit, or if it's more than one.
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>>46961697
Actually, it was me that was posting the thread with that picture the last few times. I mainly just wanted to deck about people's deck composition and what they run at weeklys and such.
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So it was announced that we will be banning Grimm Cluster on June 11th.
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>>46962871
On the one hand, I only lose 9 cards from my main deck. On the other hand, no more Robe of the Fire Rat and Lance/Pricia/Athena are still in the format. On the other other hand, no more Cthuga to chunk me on turn 1 while triggering a rukh egg.

Not sure how to feel.
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>>46962871
>just bought Little Red and 4 blasting waves
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>>46962916
Cheshire, Thunder, Flame of Outer World, and Gretel are gone too.
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>>46962871
That soon? That's going to fuck me over for a bit unless I can replace the stuff with things from BoA.

So what are the sets to be banned, all Grim and Vingolf?
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>>46963017
>http://fowtcg.com/news/agp-format-change/
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>Friend got into this
>Ask him why he likes it
>Literally admits he's in it only for the anime girls
>mfw


I'll stick with MTG
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>>46963484
I'm in it for the anime grills, and the bullshittery that is MtG gives me no reason to go back.
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>>46963484
To each their own. I enjoy both MtG and FoW. Both have similar gameplay, both are fun, both have good art and shit-tier art. It's more annoying when I hear people getting into FoW purely because "anime girls." Like, why spend money on pictures of anime girl? You have the Internet, get a pixiv account or something.
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>>46963470
So, is FoW now played as some kind of Standard, or what is going on?
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>>46963484
>Every thread
Thanks again
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>>46962871
>banning
It's not being banned from anything. Format change to block constructed is what's really happening. It's shitty for people that invested money in Grimm cards to build decks that they wanted to play at locals that shift or agps, but it isn't outright banning those cards. I feel there should have been more of a warning from the powers that made said decision rather than the sudden lolnogrimm out of nowhere, though. Expecting a few months more for certain cards and having only one now might make people feel cheated and betrayed.
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>>46963759
I'm surprised but not upset. The cluster was going to be rotated out in september anyway, and they have no interest in scaling new cards to contend with staples like cthuga or cheshire. We're coming to the last set of the block and the execs probably don't want keep to looking at alices world in the top eight.
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>>46963585
>>46963590

While I still enjoy MtG the fact that I can build 3 or 4 solid FoW decks with the same budget for a single competitive MtG Standard deck is really hard to ignore... and that's ignoring Jace.

Also how I can crack nearly any FoW pack and find something neat while a MtG booster will have me tossing aside Limited Bombs, Possibly Good in EDH Possibly and pure Jank.
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>>46963854
I'm slightly sad that I can't use Akashik whatever and the sac a human draw 3 cards trick with mariabella, but I guess that technically means less bullshit hurdles for my deck to jump over in terms of cats and signs.
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>>46964002
>>46963854
I'm just wondering what I'm going to do about some of my dual magic stones that I'm going to be losing. Most of my deck will remain intact, but losing those kind of hurts a bit.
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>>46963916
EDH is fun, but I wont even touch standard or modern. For me I always wanted a game that was magic along with a more anime style aesthetic. That and the game removes some of the more clunky mechanics of MtG in addition to being cheaper.
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>>46964036

The way mana is setup in FoW is what drew me to it in the first place. Not too crazy about some of the art and changes to some of the existing art, but overall I've been having quite a bit more fun with this than I did with the last 2 or so years with MTG.
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>>46964017
I know what you mean. I run Sylvia with 4 blasting waves, in addition to cthuga. Now I'm going to have to figure out what to do about that deck. Chances are I will add 4 Athena and replaces Gilles with Lancelot. Bloodfire also looks like a really good addition for popping rukh eggs.

However that gives me more reason to work on my Kaguya deck.
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>>46964196
Yeah. Some of the artwork is wonky, but at least that lancelot is better than the promo one.

The promo would be 10/10 though if he had the pepe pose going.
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>>46964249
>but at least that lancelot is better than the promo one.

How dare you, that one is amazing.
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>>46964287

It's like if Andre the Giant and Stephen Colbert had a kid.
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>>46964210
Really hoping we'll get a better idea of what's in BoA soon. I don't think my local tournaments will really enforce those rules that early, but I'm still going to have to find a replacement eventually.
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>>46963484
Came for the babes, stayed for the best resource system any TCG has ever had.
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Okay, someone please explain to me all of what is off rotation. So all of the Grimm cluster is gone, or can I still use Set 4?
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>>46964777
Wait, does that mean Faria and Melgis can't be used either since that and the Vingolf set came out in between the Alice and Grimm clusters?
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>>46938823
Is lewd art like that the norm for this game?
If so I must play it.
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>>46964790
Faria and Melgis were from Seven Kings of the Land, ya dingus. They had a duel deck that had the same orange border bullshit as vingolf, but they aren't from vingolf.
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>>46963634
It has a Standard and Legacy format as of June 11th.
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>>46964882
It happens in at least 2 to 3 promos a year. It's great.
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>>46964287
That needs a Pepe edit
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>>46964777
Anything from Grimm and Vingolf will be banned from Standard on June 11th.
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>>46965017
>Anything from Grimm and Vingolf will be banned from Standard on June 11th.
That's just for the AGP tournaments, other ones like ARG haven't said anything, and local ones are likely not to just yet.
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Please tell me BoA is going to have some Dual Will Magic Stones.
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What are the acronyms for the sets being taken out that are put on the bottom left of the cards?
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>>46965201
It would make sense for them to add some, but they might be dicks and not.
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>>46965078
>local ones are likely not to just yet.
Good thing too. I have all of 1 box of TTW and 4 packs of both SKL and TMS(I sort cards by their codes, so I can't remember what sets these are) outside of Vingolf.
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>>46965345
I hope not, but I can totally see it.
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>>46965319
CMF, TAT, MPR, and MOA are all gone. Vingolf is also gone, but I dunno the acronym. Probably VIN. You can tell them apart by the terrible art though.
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>>46965510
Well, my decks are basically dead. Guess it's time to make that spazzy Void Machine deck now.
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>>46964698
The Spoils and the second Game of Thrones card game have a much better resource system.
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>>46958362
http://db.fowtcg.us/
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>>46958940
As someone who plays this deck, it's actually quite good. The way it works is you play a lot of counter magic and flash creatures and if they're not needed you drain on their end of turn with your left-up mana, Because of how aggressive this game is, the 200 life gain is also really nice.
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The next set better have fucking moon lands I swear to god. I really want to build a Kaguya 3.0 deck but the only one staying is Moonbreeze Memoria.
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>>46965510
Is that all the ones being removed then from rotation?
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>>46965856
Black moon's memoria is a thing. 4 of each and then a crapshoot for the other 2. Might need to start running the rampant growth to make stones better.
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Rulers are the same for this rotation, right? If they're from the Grimm/Vingolf bits we can't use them anymore?
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>>46966529
Correct. Only rulers from SKL, TTW, or TMS may be used for Alice cluster format. Once BFA is released, then those 5 rulers will also be legal. Be sure to get ready to bow to your robot overlords, by the by.
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>>46966874
I'm actually looking forward to making one as well.
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>>46966995
Machina 1.0 or 2.0? I'm pretty sure 1.0 just enables insane combo kills, but 2.0 seems fun for ruler aggro.
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>>46967227
Probably 2.0, I just need to see what's all in the new set for BoA to then decide. Though I want to see what Knights are being added in for that one as well, think they said 1-2 are coming in BoA, so hoping that can flesh out my wonky KotRT deck a bit better.
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so wait, what's the difference from what the AGP is doing with the Alice only clusters and the rotation that would happen in September?
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>>46965821
I run hyper-agressive vlad. Not as good, but I can care a bit less about my own face for when I run out of steam.
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>>46967588
anyone happen to know?
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>>46967989
AGP is a lot earlier, taking place in June.
Rotation would happen around September.
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>all this asshurt over the tournament rotation
Are they just mad that their 100+ competitive decks are defunct for AGP?

Anyone with half a brain knew that if they started a banlist R/R and Cheshire would be at the top. Not to mention that Grimm was going to rotate out in several months anyway. It's not surprising that the execs didnt want to have a slew of miserable tournaments.
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>>46938823
This game frustrates me because I really like the gameplay/design but the shitty weeb aesthetic makes it unplayable for me.

If only they toned it down so I didn't feel like I'm touching a bunch of body pillows or some shit
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>>46971175
I don't mind it at all. It was rotating in September anyway so it's fine with me.
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>>46971771
Every thread. Every fucking thread.

If you don't like it go take your nerdy button laden fedora and go play MtG. It's got great support and replayability, and you'll be among your kind.
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So outside of the obvious Reflect what control decks could I look into building with? Especially with Grimm cycling out. I just want a cute ruler and heavy control.
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>>46972308
Edgy Alice maybe?
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>>46972308
Go Kaguya. Join the magical girl club. Run WoW, and Tsukuyomi Noble.
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>>46972340
As a former Best Alice player I can't recommend her as a main ruler anymore. She can get super BTFO by an aggressive Kaguya or Primogenitor flip.

Speaking of, Primo is a pretty decent control-ish ruler, so is Kaguya but G/W control is boring.
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>>46972442
>>46972472
This Kaguya? Eh I dunno she's not all that cute.

Is Ygg control? I'd manage with a world tree as a ruler as long as its effect is to bring out a cute girl anyways.
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>>46972442
>>46972472
Does Kaguya 3.0 even count as control? Isn't it more midrange?
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>>46938823
>It's become quite a big card game
For you.
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god I hate weebshit
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>>46972759
When you can cast unchaseable cancel spells, and shut down your opponents board by casting noble, I'd call that control.
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>>46972976
Then go play magic you autistic manlet.
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A bunch of my friends got into FoW but I just can't do it. I hate the look of the cards, it's the combination of super weeb waifu art and the cards generally looking super cluttered.
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>>46972976
He said on 4chan.
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>>46973632
>>46972976
>>46971771
It wasnt enough that he had to shitpost in the thread about weeb art. He had to samefag about it too.
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>>46969945
But it's basically the same thing, just earlier right?
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>>46974419
The major backlash is that it was unplanned. I wouldn't be surprised if people just finished rounding out their dual lands or Cheshires for the AGP in a month and throughout summer just to hear that they won't be playable. It also caused a huge flux in prices to other cards in Alice cluster due to the sudden news.
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Id play if half the cards art wasnt terrible deviant art tier, and the whole 'rotating format' on a new game that will last less than three years doesnt seem worthwhile.

>inb4 someone says it will last longer
yeah, thats what they all say. but its not even doing well in its home country, and is too much like magic play wise and too much like yugioh art wise. it doesnt have a place to last long.
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>>46964698
Hecatomb, Duelmasters, Spoils
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I wanna get into this game, but I have no friends who are willing to switch games. Is it possible that any of you fucks are from Long Island and know of a store where there's a Force of Will scene?

please help
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>>46975795
I can't be the only person that wants to be an ecchi animu planeswalker, can I?
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>>46976332
If you just want the ecchi and Planeswalker parts, Magic's got a decent bit. RBW are the colors most likely to have it.
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>>46976332
no, but a large amount of the art is garbage and I just with to fuck Piruruk.
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So is Arla dead in the story line? Pricia survived, but it basically said all the seven kings were dead as well, and the new Rulers we're getting are basically like past versions of them.
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waifufags get the fuck out of my hobby
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>>46977531
Arla, Faria, Melgis, Machina, and Rezzard got murdered by Dark Alice. Pricia survived by hiding and Valentina survived by being a traitorous bitch.

I'm not up on current fluff but apparently Pricia and Valentina are dead now too, I'm assuming they killed each other.
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>>46978303
Pricia 'killed' Valentina.
Valentina now apparently bodyjacked Pricia via some blue fuckery.
I will be legitimately mad if Pricia isn't the victor, not even my waifu. I really hate it when writers make a character then use him or her as a punching bag who can never win.
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>>46972624
Ygg is a great buyer of a time. It works great as a ruler for a deck where you are going balls to the wall rush and want to give no shits about your life. It can buy you an extra turn or so should it come to that.

Other than that, it isn't a useful ruler.
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>>46939356
>One which cannot be destroyed without literally summoning Hitler from his grave.
is there actually a hitler card?
please let there actually be a hitler card
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>>46978303
Pricia lives, but Valentina's voice still echos inside her. She's currently headed to a dark place, and at present we do not know what is going to come of it. Valentina has been slain, but lives inside Pricia.
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>>46978369
It was said in a recent QA that Valentina has basically taken over and will continue to be a villain, at the very minimum as far as the first set of the Lapis Cluster. I guess the "Valentina" that we know wasn't even her original body, she's apparently been hopping bodies for a while now.

I'm really curious to see what she's got planned for the Lapis Cluster, if we're moving back to Grimm's world. I'd love to see her become the BBEG from under Lapis' nose. She could fuck some real shit up if she ended up mind jacking somebody like Pandora or Lumia.
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>>46938823
>that's the A4 promo
God yes I'll get 8.

One of my LGS basically got me into the game during TTW and I alternate between playing super jank like mono-green all full-art Pricia cards and trying out netdecks like Yamata and red rush Minamoto with minor changes. We've got about 10+ people that show up semiweekly to play while there's an unspoken rule about nobody playing broken as shit Reflect decks. I'm about to break that by bringing NecroLance to try out but I think it's fairer by being an anti-tournament meta deck, plus the guy who usually wins when I don't (one of the LGS employees) constantly puts anti-Yamata tech in every sideboard because fuck me so I don't foresee my incarnate chain working too well when I'm getting Xeex'd.

>>46953570
The meta is mostly just people stuck in their own ways. Plenty of people show up to tournaments entirely prepared for only 1-2 decks and can get fucked by anything that isn't shit but off the radar. Recently Yggdrasil piloted an Alice's World deck to top 8 and so did a Minamoto deck. Bahamut has also actualy placed and Barrier of Shadows is very much capable of fucking R/R.

>Are Six Sages usable yet?
Funnily enough R/R actually super synergizes with Six Sages and is more than just a deck fixing engine in it. A Six Sages deck recently got like top 4 or something.
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>>46978495
So what's the deal with Gill Lapis, plotwise? He's a qt evil shota so I'm already happy with him, but he is he insufferable or is he a decently written character or what?
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So, is this a viable Ruler? Or is just <Tier 3 for casual nopower matches?
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>>46980057
Someone was telling me there was a deck with him that was actually competitive deck involving him but I have yet to see it. To be fair Athena is pretty good and that 1 drop that can become huge is abusable. It might see a power rise with that neat 1 drop Field that nukes the board repeatedly coming in A4.
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>>46939736
This just in, Reflect Refrain can get fucking dunked on like the degenerate pile of shit it is.
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>>46980436
The real question is can we get it out and destroy their J/Ruler with Arla+Artemis+Almerius/Blazer fast enough while still conquering their board, and would destroying R/R even win us the game?
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>>46980436
Thank you for showing us the light.
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>>46980436
I really, really dislike that font.
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>>46978303
>Arla, Faria, Melgis, Machina, and Rezzard

I still don't like this.

Also, is Faria supposed to be Arthur's sister? Her flavor text at the bottom of the card kind of makes it seem it.
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>>46978620
Aren't most of the Six Sages being burned when the rotation shift happens in September?
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To clarify the comments people are making about Grimm being "Banned," it's not. Starting with the next AGP (Area Grand Prix) after the upcoming one, they will be switching from New Frontiers (Standard essentially, most recent two blocks) to a block constructed format. This was done to deal with an extremely cancerous combination of cards between Grimm and Alice blocks. A format change for SOME large events does not mean Grimm block is being in any way shape or form banned. I don't necessarily agree with the decision either, but people should probably get their facts straight before posting false, alarmist information.
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>>46978937
We've seen so little of him that it's hard to say. BoA and the Lapis Cluster will probably tell.

Up until now all he's done is linger in the background and get hyped up as the most evil thing ever, he hasn't had much actual focus or character. He seems fairly smug, at least, without being an obnoxious shit like Dark Alice.
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>>46982216
But it basically means you can use them unless it's a Legacy format, so it's pretty much the same to them.
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>>46980057

>Directly synergizes with the Time Goddesses
> His God Art fucks them over

Why?
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>>46982696
It only really fucks them over if you want it to. The putting cards back into your graveyard is entirely optional. Just if you've got over 10 removed cards and wouldn't mind recasting a Demon Flame/Flame King Shout/Torch the Timeline/Thunder, you have that option.

Also the God Art is essentially just wiping your enemy's board, so more often than not its probably the end of the game if it comes out. Alisaris all on his own is getting you at LEAST 1000 in on that same turn.
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>>46980436
I don't understand how this dunks R/R. Does it help kill it or something?
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>>46982487
Again, ONLY for SOME AGP events. ARGs, which are all most people are likely to attend, and locals are totally unaffected.
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>>46983545
But isn't the rotation in September going to remove those sets from competitive play anyways?
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>>46983210
Refrain would be unable to flip back to reflect side during your opponent's turn which is the only time you're allowed to use that ability. The other refrain abilities involving magic counters can still be used, but only during your own turn now. The important lock is of the 0 ability to flip refrain back since blazer can just kill refrain with new angel out. Blazer just got a lot better for Alice cluster.
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>>46983639
Can you only flip Blazer on your own turn?
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>>46983612
Yes they are, so people who are making a massive stink about it would have had to deal with rotation at not only AGPs but also ARGs, locals etc in only 4 months anyway. Were they planning to throw a hissy fit when a planned rotation came along?
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>>46983661
Yes. You can only J-activate or call a stone once per turn and only on your turn.
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Vingold 2 set to release on July 29th. Announced on their Facebook.
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>>46983639
Can you lightning bolt refrain too? what manners of creative murder exist to kill that which may not battle?
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>>46983639
>thinking your opponent will actually play into that when they see blazer and white stones.

Also

>actually trying 3 colors in Alice Cluster, especially RWB

Good fucking luck scrub.
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>>46984848
Who said shit about 3 color? Also, blazer does have text on both sides saying that stones tap for red, so RW is actually fairly simple with him. Also, just having angel bitch and no blazer just means your opponent cannot do judgement unless they want to be cut off reflect till angel dies or gets main phase bounced. Either way, you're forcing R/R to play on your terms. Maybe you should git gud and try some reading comprehension and logical thought processes sometime.
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>>46984661
Can't Thunder it, can't Flames it, etc. Literally only 3 cards/combos that can kill it, giving it flying with Almerius and shooting it with a Bow with 4 counters (Arla only), Blazer, assuming your opponent is dumb enough to not flip back to it's non-ruler side in response, and Siege Warfare, which necessitates playing Puss in Boots and having all 3 of the 3 Musketeers in play.
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>>46983199

Yeah, I was dumb and misread it.
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I won this in a store thing a while back

is it even playable?
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>>46985567
It's sadly not playable due to it being from an older set.
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>>46980436
Jokes on you I use Reflect almost exclusively. Refrain requires me to not play a stone.
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SPOILERS BOYS!
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>>46986775
>15 stones
looks like we get another format of perfect mana.
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>>46939474
>Not bringing in Portal of Truth for Arthur
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>>46986109
So its not in "standard" or is it just bad/
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>>46986814
I wouldn't be surprised if they made something akin to shocklands, deal 400 to you for it to enter untapped, although they might say fuck it and ramp the damage up to 500 to enter untapped for the sole purpose of being able to call them thunder stones.
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>>46986775
>V2: Valkyria Chronicles

Uhh, what?
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>>46987210
they could make pain lands that tap for void unless you pay 200 to tap for 1 of two colours.
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>>46987286
>V2: Valkyria Chronicles
Sega's going to throw a massive hissyfit, aren't they? I wish I could find a worse picture to represent their incoming lawsuits.
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>>46986775
I really wonder what's going to be in this set.
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>>46988822
more anime girls with minamalistic art, and random ass reprints
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>>46978434
Any other cute rulers for a control deck, then?

People seem to have mixed feelings on Alice. Then someone's saying Kaguya (not that cute anyways) is more of a midrange thing so I don't know anything.
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>>46988822
Probably Not-Europe.
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This game looks cool. I like collecting cards for arts too.

So, how is it? Is it easy to get cards in UK?
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>>46990107
It basically plays like MTG with some alterations to things like Mana/Magic stones being their own deck rather than included in your main deck and similar to MTG Commander with how the Ruler/J-Ruler works. It's fairly cheap to pick up minus a few cards like Cheshire Cat and so on, but you can build a deck on the cheap. Starter decks are also about $15 bucks and have some pretty decent ones like the Light one with Arla, Machina has some great inclusions in that deck even if it isn;t the most amazing, and Pricia is a nice starting point as well.

Anyways, best thing to do is just go and get a starter deck and try playing with some locals and such. Not sure about the card acquisition in the UK, but I imagine it shouldn't be too bad.
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>>46990296
Thanks bro. I like looking at art anyway, despite never playing. I got the old Warhammer card game just cause I liked the art.
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>>46990107
I just tried to find some starter decks in the UK and they are sold out everywhere except for a few very overpriced ones on Amazon.
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>>46990497
Darn. I'll need to look around for some in stores if I go out. Thanks for looking.
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>>46939785
It also has 4 Snow Whites and 4 Flame King Shouts so even if you change to red it's still a good buy.
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>>46986775
>Valkyria Chronicles

Well it's not Symphogear but I'll take it.
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>>46987286
>>46987915
The Vingolf sets are licensed crossovers.

You just didn't recognize the first Vingolf stuff because it was from some random Jap mobile game that no dirty American has ever heard of.
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>>46992679
That's going to be weird then.
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>>46992679

You're not serious about this, are you? This sounds fucking stupid.
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>>46993117
What, you never once questioned why Vingolf resonators and rulers randomly had a different artstyle than the rest of the game and had no connection to the lore?

Is living under a rock comfy?
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>>46992644
Next year Symphogear S4+5, and Vingolf 3: Tsubasa a shit.

I want to believe.
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>>46993235
>Is living under a rock comfy?
Yes, why?
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So, if I I'm playing Kaguya 3.0 and I play a Tsukuyomi Noble, do I get to draw a card y/n?

I know that Noble counts as a moon for its own effect, but I'm not sure about kaguya.
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>>46993394
Yes, you draw a card
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>>46993394
Yes you do get to draw a card. Kaguya doesn't care about what type of card it is as long as it's got the Moon subtype.
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>>46992679
Well that explains what >>46993235 pointed out. So is Welkin gonna run shit over with his tank? I know my friend would love Selvaria as a ruler. I wouldn't be surprised if she was.
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