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Yesterday's thread
>>46902523

Check out the pastebin for story, technologies, stats etc.
http://pastebin.com/t7gWa2pa
And an archive of ALL previous threads if you want to skim through some of them.

http://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/boards/pol.tg/subject/Civ/username/Civ%20bulgar/page/1/


>Population:46 500 000 (63% white, 3 % chink,3% kafi, 3% hibibi, 6 % pajit, 4% darkskin,11% ramki,6% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 7 700 000 Eyerdar 1 600 000 Veita 1 600 000 Ocras

>Economy:7/10
>Food stockpiles:7/10
>Food production: 7/10
>Political Stability: 7/10


>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Construction
>F.Improve Military
>G.Research science
>H.Improve Navy
>I.Improve economy
>J.Regional development
>K.Diplomacy and war
>L.Government and laws

Previously - for a year we waged war on the Pacharnati Empire in Eyerdar, ultimately winning and splitting the territory of that nation between us and our allies as we agreed beforehand. The world is getting smaller - aside from us, our vassals and allies, there remain only two nations - the Barniju Spice Islands and the New Pajit Union. Both of those have not crossed us in any way so far and take part in foreign trade with no issue.
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The NPU faced major defeat in their fight against the Empire and did not gain any new territories - that left more for us and our allies, of course.
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>>46923441
L. Enact a one of two child policy applied to the Kafi and Darskins until they're like .5%.
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Geological surveys in Ocras revealed great underground riches, among which coal and iron in large quantitites, which has increased the pace of colonisation of this previously uninhabited continent.
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The Kaichou were given colonisation rights in Veita and have used this to seize lands from the aboriginals for the establishment of new colonies.
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Industrialisation continues at a reasonable pace in the home continent as new technologies are spreading.
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>>46923441
>D.Settle new lands - Veita
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>>46923441
A. Gotta find the final spire.
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A
Let's find the last spire
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>>46924037
>>46924131
Where would you like to explore?
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>>46924241
You've forgot to tweet bulgar
also explore the eye of sand.
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>>46924241
Eye of sand
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>>46924442
This I've got a gut feeling something important is in there.
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Rolled 86 (1d100)

We shall sent out scouts to thoroughly search the Eye of Sand, the desert area in Eyerdar
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>>46924492
>high roll
let it be the last spire, or ruins, or a spaceship, or any kind of lost technology, or an ancient library.
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>>46924492
We're either going to find something amazing or awaken a giant golem that's going to attack everything In sight
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>>46924610
That wouldn't be that bad considering we have dynamite, as long as the golem is not a High INT super AI we would be able to fuck him up with a good planned take-down and even salvage some of his tech.
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Over 600 rangers were sent into groups of 4 to 8 men. At the headquarters we established on the northern edge of the desert we've recieved a number of reports - it appears the mountains in this desert are rich in coal and gold among other things. At the eastern edge of the desert live michiki tribes, in the west and south there are some pajit settlements, the locals having found some decent-sized coal mines.
Our rangers are trained in all terrain survival measures and the desert won't be able to kill them on its own - which is why we are now concerned, after three month of operations, with group 7's status - they sent us their last report three weeks ago and they're searching through the central parts, two weeks is enough time for them to report back.
Another week's passed and all other groups are still actively reporting or have already completed their assignments and returned - all except group 7.
Their last report was as follows:
"Ranger group 7 report number 4 - day 41, within grid area 7 we had so far discovered nothing of note or value. Today we found signs of human activity - we're certain of it. Within a cave we found metal and glass - remnants of a constructio or building. We are continuing our investigation"

A.Continue operations as orders dictate, await their return
B.Recall all ranger groups and move to investigate grid 7
C.Send some of our best groups to grid 7
D.Recall all ranger groups, call in army support and then move on to grid 7
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>>46924809
>C
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>>46924809
C. proceed with caution and be very sure to send word back if it goes tits up.
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>>46924809
>. Within a cave we found metal and glass - remnants of a construction or building. We are continuing our investigation"

we need to see this C
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>>46924809
C.Send some of our best groups to grid 7
If they don't come back we'll get army support.
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>>46924809
>C.Send some of our best groups to grid 7
if we march with the army the nose will know when we come and they'll destroy every piece of intel they have
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>>46924809
C
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Rolled 14 (1d100)

Ranger General Armsted called in groups 13 and 14 - 9 of our best rangers, experienced, willing and able.
Mission briefing:
"Grid 7 was given to ranger group 7 as the target area to conduct reconnaissance. This here's their last report - from one month ago. Grid 7 is in the central part of the desert, as far away from civilisation as you can get on this continent. Your task is to search for them, find any information on their whereabouts and what happened to them and bring them back if possible"
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>>46924973
well fuck, send in the army.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Yy7YLOTYEs

A report was recieved from groups 13 and 14
"HQ, we've located the cave site after 8 days of travel. Metal and glass remnants as they reported. They left signs pointing to their objective, it's deep in the desert. Coordinates described as follows..."
That was 24 days ago, past appointed time for report submission.
Another squad that had passed near grid 7 has also gone missing
A.Finish all current assignments and get the hell out of there
B.Assemble all ranger forces and move on grid 7
C.Call in army support for this
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>>46925094
C
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>>46925094
B. move in smaller but more numerous groups to ensure greater intel gathering, begin moving military forces to the area.
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>>46925094
>C.Call in army support for this
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>>46925137
This
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>>46925094

Call in the army. Full force baby!
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>>46925094
B
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>>46925094
>C
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>>46925094
>C.Call in army support for this
it has to be done we need reinforcement otherwise we won't have the whole area under lock-down and they might be able to escape through tunnels, send our best armed forces.
also fuck me for installing my wifi router to the opposite of my room.
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>>46925094

C! Army support.
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>>46925094
Call in our elite forces, back them up with as much professional armed forces we can rally quickly. All present units now act as border guards; secure the region, contain what ever this is and protect all civilians!

The longer we wait the worse this will get but if we throw our resources away we might lose more.
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>>46925094
>C.Call in army support for this
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>>46925323
> Sargerasl
>Not Sargeras
say what?
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Rolled 32 (1d100)

We've called in a blitzkrieger regiment, as many njordgales as Supereme Command can spare, light cavalry, all availabel ranger units, some infantry regiments and a few light artillery corps, a total of 20 000 men are being mobilized for this operation.
Fortified camps have been established at several points on the desert edge, rangers have established a perimeter surrounding the target area. Our forces are ready, General Tarek and Ranger General Armsted will now lead them towards grid 7.
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>>46925432
>Rolled 32
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>>46925477
We might need another army
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>>46925496
We need my rolls
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>>46925514
Inky, we want to live on this planet, not to have the enemy win!
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Rolled 2 (1d2)

>>46925514
let's ind out if we need your rolls
>1 means you'll roll somewhere between 95 and 100
>2 means you'll roll somewhere between 5 and 1
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>>46925543
go away, both of you, now
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Rolled 99 (1d100)

>>46925543
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>>46925563

WOAH
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Rolled 92 (1d100)

16 000 men marched on Grid 7
Along the way as we approached the range at which the missing groups had sent their last message we began to lose outlying patrols, vicious sandstorms came down upon us. Not that many men died from the head or the sand, but any group that split off from the main force sooon went missing and the storms contributed to that.
We lost 740 men in three days, but we kept going. 16 days after departing from HQ we're now in the middle of grid 7 and at last - object sighted in the distance - a spire!
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>>46925563
Dice gods work in mysterious ways I'm starting to think Inky is their champions at this point
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>>46925616
The ORGINIZATION well this should be fun.
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>>46925616
we should inform the SA and KE about this.
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>>46925676
KE would be pissed off if we didn't inform them but we have to say it's our own operation and that we'll give them information as we please, we never know who to trust with the spires.
You know they're always con-spiring
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>>46925616

So wait what're the spires, what do they do/what's inside them?
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>>46925676
Agreed
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>>46925616
I was hoping it was not this...

Well! No time to waste now, the longer we wait the more time they have to disperse and to destroy any documentation they might have.

Assault them, immediately.
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>>46925743
you should have read the previous threads
http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/search/username/Civ%20bulgar/type/op/
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/username/Civ%20bulgar/type/op/

both link are for the archives, start by the pol threads.
tl;dr :
Spire are where the conspiring fucks of this planet lives and they're a elusive race that we're trying to fight while they conspire against us.
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>>46925743
The spire's are constructs, dens of one of our gravest enemies. They use them to gather information, to control and manipulate societies in order to maintain their own power.

They were responsible for the pajit beginning to war with us, they also attempted to reverse engineer our technology for their own perverse use.

We must tread carefully, they have destroyed these before just to deny us the knowledge inside but seeing as this is their last... we might see their real strength.
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>>46925834
>but seeing as this is their last
might not be, who knows what Veita and Ocras wilderness might hide
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Rolled 51 (1d100)

Approaching the spire we find no sign of human presence around.
The spire is identical to what our records indicate all other spires were from the outside. Only one way in, it's locked so some old-fashioned force does the trick.
As previous records indicated, there's office floors, storage floors, laboratories at the top and some quarters. Maps of all continents can be found, even charts to the top secret military island - rummaging around we find more heavily classified information from our own republic, but also from the Sunset Alliance, the Pacharnati Empire, the NPU and the Barniju isles. Information in regards to secret military development, deployment, national security, internal and external affairs. An entire library of books with information on the various races, their histories, languages and beliefs.
Within their storage we find schematics for steamships, locomotives, dynamite, experimental rifle designs - all new technologies developed within our nation, some of which are closely guarded secrets! There's also information on SA rocket artillery development, kaichou rail transport innovations and experimental weapon designs we didn't know of.
Interestingly the information available on the kaichou government stops at a certain level - the imperial cabinet and most importantly - the God-Emperor. Dossiers are available on various top government officials, reports of secret societies that are established through the lands.
These documents are also marked with levels of classification, the top ones pertaining to secret societies, agreements and top military secrets at levels designated as "Palace" "Fortress" "Market" "Prince" "King" and such.
We find evidence of a top level clearance designated as "God" - no such documents are available here, their existence is only implied.
Further search continues
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>>46925936
this implicates the KE?? have we been duped by them for centuries?
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>>46925823

Ah, nah I haven't seen all the previous threads sorry. Will check em out.

Right on, let's kick their ass.
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>>46925936
>>46925989
if the Emperor is against us this would be worst since they have been partially adopting a political system close to us, so i guess we did counter the spires in a way.
But informing KE about this might not be the smartest play now guys.
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>>46925989
They might not be able to get anything on them didn't the ORGINIZATION assassinate one Of their emperors a while back the kaichou likely upgraded their security
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Rolled 56 (1d100)

We find a pair of keys that lead to an underground level - a prison and interrogation room! We discover the remains of our missing rangers in various cells, in the interogation room we find one of the rangers tied to a chair, his throat slit and with wounds across his face and body.
On the walls behind the dead ranger large letters, written in blood, read:
"WE HAVE AWOKEN"
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>>46925989
It all makes sense. The God emperor could only claim such a title if he was helped by the "chosen people".
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>>46926055
>Assassinate one of their leader
>put a leader that's part of the Organization instead
It adds up
>>46926080
>"WE HAVE AWOKEN"
get ready for WW1 boys
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>>46926080

fuck
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>>46926080
well shit, time to prep with all out war against everyone. I think it would be best to assume that we will be alone, and the primary enemy is probably KE and SA who have been very close recently.
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>>46926080
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZp3Mtn-Ysl

it has begun
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>>46926153
>>46926110

Everyone? Should we head back to the homeland and just prepare to defend it and hunker down?
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After a thorough search of the spire we find the entrance to a secret underground tunnel. The entryway is collapsed, judging by the fact that we've found no living humans around it is most likely an escape tunnel of sorts. Engineers determine that further use of explosives would collapse the tower - its foundations have already been stirred by the previous detonations that have occured, its a wonder it didn't collapse then.

>>46926083
>>46926110
>>46926150
>>46926153
Check the bottom part of the pastebin for the excerpt on the God Emperor's encounter with the Organisation. This is the information we were given from the imperial government when we first signed our alliance.
Our men have completed their search of the spire. We've recovered all documents, items and the remains of our rangers.
If you want to do anything with the shaky remains of the building, say along with your vote.

>Population:47 000 000 (63% white, 3 % chink,3% kafi, 3% hibibi, 6 % pajit, 4% darkskin,11% ramki,6% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 7 700 000 Eyerdar 1 600 000 Veita 1 600 000 Ocras

>Economy:7/10
>Food stockpiles:7/10
>Food production: 7/10
>Political Stability: 7/10


>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Construction
>F.Improve Military
>G.Research science
>H.Improve Navy
>I.Improve economy
>J.Regional development
>K.Diplomacy and war
>L.Government and laws
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>>46926216
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZp3Mtn-YsI
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>>46926080
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WgT9gy4zQA
"IT'S WAAAR TIME BABIES. I'VE BEEN HATCHIN' UP SOME IDEA'S TO FIGHT THESE NEW WORLD GOOKS. WE USE MECHANIZATION AGAINST THEM, MOVING CANNONS, USING GAS AGAINST THEM, FUCK ALL! COMBINE BOTH, AND SOME AUTOMATIC MUSKET BOYS."
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>>46926218
no get as much intel as we can, those schematics are pure gold for us
>>46926230
>L.Government and laws
Anti spy laws now time to spot the nose among us.
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>>46926230
G. lets look more into metalurgy and steam power, this is the future of warfare.
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>>46926230
L
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>>46926230
>L.Government and laws
Laws to stop the nose from getting more people in the government
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>>46926230
>G. Research tanks.
We must get mechanized horses. This will give us a great protection against enemies in the fields of battle as we'll be behind steel as we gallop through war.
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>>46926230

G, gotta research better guns!! And battleships.
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>>46926230
>L
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>>46926318
>*G. Research sciences
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>>46926230
G
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>>46926230
the jews need to go L
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>>46926355
>>46926318
>>46926340
>>46926322
>all theses people who want to research while it's been proven that all our research were taken by the spires
>wanting to research tank while there is an intel leak so they have them to
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>>46926410

...TRUE.
And I doubt there's a way to guard secrets safer.
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>>46926230
>>L.Government and laws
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>>46926230
>>L.Government and laws
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>>46926439
more safety protocols
>burn all records that aren't in a safe archive
>hold everybody who works in the gov as a hostage
>publicly execute traitors in the worse way possible
>give bounties for people who denounce people with proof (but little they know investigation will also investigate those who denunciated)
simple really to reduce the amount of traitor we need to detect them more and incite people to defect less.
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>>46926510

That'd definitely work.

No trials for traitors? Just straight-up execution? I feel they'd be wanting us to instill fear among the populace.
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It seams the kaichou have made great advances into steam power and rail transport.Their rail program seeks to make their trains pass through great underground tunnels to traverse mountains, hills and other harsh terrain - our railroad construction capabilities have increased, more distant targets are now accessable.
The kaichou have made advances in metallurgy as they are also producing cheap and strong steel, but they are also have designs for steam warships, clad in iron!
Military research in the past years resulted in the creation of a new pistol - the revolver. Our current models are capslocks and loaded as muzzle-loaders, but gun manufacturers have begun taking more interest in these guns, which are finding a wider market, Their advantage over older pistols is in their accuracy and a capacity of multiple metal balls, though reloading is done in a fairly slow, old-fashioned manner.

>Population:47 500 000 (63% white, 3 % chink,3% kafi, 3% hibibi, 6 % pajit, 4% darkskin,11% ramki,6% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 7 800 000 Eyerdar 1 700 000 Veita 1 700 000 Ocras

>Economy:7/10
>Food stockpiles:7/10
>Food production: 7/10
>Political Stability: 7/10


>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Construction
>F.Improve Military
>G.Research science
>H.Improve Navy
>I.Improve economy
>J.Regional development
>K.Diplomacy and war
>L.Government and laws
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>>46926534
>L.Government and laws
anti traitor laws now.
>>46926526
No trials would be stupid, of course we'd investigate circumstances
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>>46926534
L
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>>46926534
J. strengthen the colonies, build up the military presence there, and add fortifications and plans for defense and assault.
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>>46926534
>>L.Government and laws
Anit-Nose Laws
Like Obelix says >>46926510
Reduce the traitor scum,
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>>46926534

E. Better fortifications for the eventual conflict.
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>>46926534
>>L.Government and laws
We should really vet our higher ups. See about flushing out spies.
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Information leaks from almost all levels of the government need to be adressed - national security is at a risk.
What measures shall we enact:
A.Harsh national security laws, open surveilance on all levels of government, public executioins for traitors - drastic measures
B.Reshuffle cabinet, increase funding for national security and secret service, more secretive counter-espionage actions - be more subtle
C.Another suggestion
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>>46926668
B
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>>46926668
B, shadow wars are fought in the shadows.
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>>46926668
B
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>>46926668
B.Reshuffle cabinet, increase funding for national security and secret service, more secretive counter-espionage actions - be more subtle
If we do A I think the Nose will try to turn it against us.
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>>46926668

B
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>>46926668
>B.Reshuffle cabinet, increase funding for national security and secret service, more secretive counter-espionage actions - be more subtle
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>>46926668
>B.Reshuffle cabinet, increase funding for national security and secret service, more secretive counter-espionage actions - be more subtle
the Nose has good PR, too harsh of anti traitor law will be seen as bad by the public while convenient accidents will keep people aware of the fate of traitors but not the origin of such fate.
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Changes have been enacted in the national security department. National archives have been secured more thoroughly, some old officials have been fired, more funding has been given to the njordgales.
Some of these changes have been noticed and there's been a slight stir, but they are not too drastic and are considered as more of a development of our national security than as a change of course by the general public.

>Population:48 000 000 (63% white, 3 % chink,3% kafi, 3% hibibi, 6 % pajit, 4% darkskin,11% ramki,6% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 7 800 000 Eyerdar 1 700 000 Veita 1 700 000 Ocras

>Economy:7/10
>Food stockpiles:7/10
>Food production: 7/10
>Political Stability: 6/10


>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Construction
>F.Improve Military
>G.Research science
>H.Improve Navy
>I.Improve economy
>J.Regional development
>K.Diplomacy and war
>L.Government and laws
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man, seems like potential for a lot of good as well as a lot of bad. A department that only answers to 1-3 people in government. That has funding directly to find/infiltrate into the spire. And kill/interrogate associates of the spires.
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As someone who occasionally visits these threads and has a vague idea of plot, can someone explain to me why everyone is "holy shiting"?
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>>46926803
+1
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>>46926789
>L.Government and laws
We have to increase political stability can't have revolts.
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>>46926789
H
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>>46926789

G.

IRON CLAD STEAM TANKS.
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>>46926534
L.
Make the FBI now.
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>>46926789
>>L.Government and laws
>>46926821
mhm agree. Give some people what they want
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>>46926789
>H
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>>46926789
>2

H

Battleships pls
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>>46926836

Seconded.
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>>46926803
this man is smart
have a +1
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>>46926789
L
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>>46926789
>G.Research science
now we must prepare
>>46926813
it's mostly because we don't roll best of three, every roll matters and since we have shit/good luck it's pretty fun, especially Inky's quamtum rolls that are 1 and 100 at the same time until he hit on the post button.
but yeah we get pretty carried away but i guess it's a good sign.
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>>46926813

Because the Spires have been the most mysterious, frustrating, and dangerous feature of the entire game, and, well... we seem to have pissed off their owners, the Organization.
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>>46926878

I was talking about the whole "WW1" talk.
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>>46926789
L
We still need laws to increase stability
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>>46926789
G.
We need tanks.
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After initial experiments we had conducted based on kaichou schematics, we've now built strong, ocean-going ironclad warships! Various designs exist with different kinds of armor and weaponry, suitable to a variety of conditions. The age of sail is now a thing of the past as most of our servicable frigates have been fitted with steam engines and we've constructed several of these new ironclads. The latest ship of the line models are still of superior firepower and speed and will continue to be employed, but it is obvious that the future lies in metal armor and steam engines!

>Population:49 500 000 (63% white, 3 % chink,3% kafi, 3% hibibi, 6 % pajit, 4% darkskin,11% ramki,6% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 8 000 000 Eyerdar 2 000 000 Veita 2 000 000 Ocras

>Economy:6/10
>Food stockpiles:7/10
>Food production: 7/10
>Political Stability: 6/10


>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Construction
>F.Improve Military
>G.Research science
>H.Improve Navy
>I.Improve economy
>J.Regional development
>K.Diplomacy and war
>L.Government and laws
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>>46926970
>>L.Government and laws
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>>46926970
>I.Improve economy
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>>46926970
>G.Research science
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>>46926970
>L
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>>46926970
A
Let's look for the last spire or two.
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>>46926970
>G. Research science.
We need tanks
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>>46926970
G. better and longer range canons with the power to penetrate iron clads.
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>>46926970
L. Enact laws to suppress suppress Kafi, Darkskin and Pacharnati subjects. They're the must likely to rebel and side with the enemy incase of war.
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>>46926970
>>L.Government and laws
We need our country to be stable for the future.
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>>46927031
That's stupid we've no reason to have it that way. Now if you suppress them you give them a reason.
It's better to include them so they feel this is Thier home.
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>>46926970
L
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>>46927021
+1
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>>46926970

G. What >>46927022 and >>46927024 said
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>>46927031
meh. I do not want this. As modern times come about, we need to pull people closer instead of creating enemies where there are none.
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>>46927079
+1
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>>46927079
This, if we can VERY secretly develop armor piercing rounds before anyone else we can have an immovable object and an unstoppable force in one thing. besides, when the real ironclads were built this was exactly the problem, nobody could penetrate their armor so they just sat their until the enemy ran out of ammo, they cant sink each other.
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>>46927057
I have my reasons. The Kafi have betrayed multiple times in the past and we just fought a war with the Pacharnati where their emperor rallied them to total war. As for the Darkskins I don't trust them to stay loyal in a war that could be of epic proportions and uncertainty.
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>>46927079
>>46927024
>>46927022
Why wouldn't you just go with either H or F. Since that directly relates to what you want. Instead of having GM throw out 2 dice to see what gets upgraded like he has always in the past. That may not affect what you want at all. Even indirectly.
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>>46927129
You want suppress people basked an assumption. That WILL negatively impact our nation, AND definitely cause the resentment that could lead to the lack of trust you assume they don't have, or wanting them to backstabbing us.

Are you working for the nose son?
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>>46927180
I agree, were fighting shadows and traitors, not other peoples entirely, like I said earlier shadow wars belong in the shadows, use our njordgales and spy networks to our advantage and quietly look into everyones affairs.
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>>46927135
Better to have two bird in the bushes than one in the hand I guess is our logic.
what if we double roll mechanic inventions?
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Public suspicion of the government has grown. We have several proposed options to increase faith in our leadership.
A.Give the colonies representation in Congress
B.Increase the rights of chinks and make them equal citizens(will greatly improve relations with the SA and our vassals Waru Poto and Bei Poto as well) - they currently have limited representation in the Lower Chamber of Congress
C.Loosen up our bloated government, delegate more legislative power to the provinces so they can solve local issues more efficiently
D.Stronger security, propaganda, get the religious institutions to help us
E.Another idea
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>>46927252
C. maybe give colonies more autonomy and ability to tax themselves to maintain their own roads and trains and ports?
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>>46927252
>A.Give the colonies representation in Congress
No American revolution
>C.Loosen up our bloated government, delegate more legislative power to the provinces so they can solve local issues more efficiently
Also less powerful government, because the nose strives for big government.
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>>46927252
B
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>>46927252

A.

The most "good guy" option is the best one.
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>>46927252
>D.Stronger security, propaganda, get the religious institutions to help us
Any others action might make us more vulnerable to corruption.
Also propaganda works really well.
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>>46927252
A & B
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>>46927252
D. That would raise of the morale of our nation as a whole instead of just the colonies or a minority group. It would also increase the willingness of our people in the event of total war.
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>>46927252
B and A
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>>46927297
>Also less powerful government, because the nose strives for big government.
>thinking the nose doesn't want to get delegated power and use corruption in our provinces
>Giving representation in Congress to a land not nearly as developed
>thinking the American revolution would have worked in 1840
they have little chance for revolution now
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>>46927355
Why not also increase hedgemony among our people with more religious and cultural ties, we may be spread out, but we are still one people.
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>>46927349
changed to B and C
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>>46927252
B
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>>46927252
>B AND C
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>>46927355
K, so since you give a detail reasons
I change my vote to D
>>46927297
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>>46927336
If we're choosing two then I would also like C along with D.
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>>46927252
>D
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>>46927252
>B
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>>46927252
D.
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We've enacted steps to give the colonies representation in the upper chamber of Congress, the Council. Lower chamber representation would be more difficult to pull of, but already this move has increased our approval as colonials feel closer to the homeland.
We've signed the Chink citizenship recognition act which allows the chinks in our lands to vote in all elections and marry freely. Chinks mostly live in the Westerlands, between the Sunset Alliance and the two vassal states.
With full citizenship granted to our chink subjects we also have the option to integrate Waru Poto and Bei Poto into our republic now - polling leads us to believe the chinks would welcome such an act. Currently 1 300 000 chinks live in our territory, the vassal territories are home to another two million.
A.Integrate the vassal territory
B.Leave it as is
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>>46927252
B
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I don't understand why people are voting for A and B. Those options only appease certain subjects. We should be focused on the republic as a whole.
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>>46927252
>A.Give the colonies representation in Congress
>B.Increase the rights of chinks and make them equal citizens(will greatly improve relations with the SA and our vassals Waru Poto and Bei Poto as well) - they currently have limited representation in the Lower Chamber of Congress
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>>46927485
A
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>>46927485
>B.Leave it as is
We can't handle the increase in pop. that quickly.
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>>46927485
>B.Leave it as is
it's ok as long as they are clearly aligned with us.
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>>46927485
>A.Integrate the vassal territory
>>46927498
It's more a question of doing something thats long overdue. We also want to prevent any American Revolution situations or possible civil wars.
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>>46927485
A
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>>46927485
B. There would be no purpose integrating them.
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>>46927485
>A.Integrate the vassal territory
Direct control is better.
>>46927527
That iss less than a 5% gain. And do all of their farms and granaries disappear all of a sudden?
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>>46927551
It has been this way for hundreds of years. If the general public is growing suspicious of the government then why just appease to minority's and colonies. It serves no purpose other then just hiding the actual issue.
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>>46927485
A
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>>46927591
Slowly implementing it is reasonable. Especially doing it first with the people who have been with us for longest time first.
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>>46927485
A.Integrate the vassal territory
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>>46927626
But chinks only make up 3% of the population. If there was ever any dissidence from them it would be minor. Compare that to if 20% of the total population were to revolt its effects would be drastic.
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At a grand ceremony in Crossfort the leaders of Waru Poto and Bei Poto formally signed the integration of the two city-states and their territories into the White Republic! These are well developed and fertile lands, approval of our government has increased.


>Population:55 000 000 (63% white, 9 % chink,2% kafi, 3% hibibi, 5 % pajit, 3% darkskin,10% ramki,5% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 8 000 000 Eyerdar 2 000 000 Veita 2 000 000 Ocras

>Economy:7/10
>Food stockpiles:8/10
>Food production: 8/10
>Political Stability: 8/10


>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Construction
>F.Improve Military
>G.Research science
>H.Improve Navy
>I.Improve economy
>J.Regional development
>K.Diplomacy and war
>L.Government and laws
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>>46927626
Sounds good. We need to slowly give rights to our people not all at once.
>>46927682
Going to be about 6-7% now.
And it sends the message we reward those who are with us. That trust is earned/won.
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>>46927742
>G.Research science
research motors, we seriously need them tractors, mustard gas would be cool too or just electricity would be fine as well.
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>>46927742
>>I.Improve economy
We should get on this.
Especially if we're going to want to focus on national changes/technological advancement based on the government so everyone can use them cheaply.
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>>46927742
J. Improve settlements inOcras which is rich in minerals.
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>>46927485
>B.
The darkskins would ride us up thr bum if we continue further. I prophesize that like in the folktales of old, we will become a nation like in the tale Europa called Sweden.
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>>46927742
I
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>>46927798
Agreed
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>>46927742
>G.
We need motors for the tanks and other tech.
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>>46927742
>>I.Improve economy
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>>46927742
J
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How should we improve our economy?
A.Invest in agriculture(cash crops like cotton, sugar, coffee)
B.Invest in mining and foresting
C.Invest in manufacturing
D.Invest in infrastructure
E.Improve finances
F.Lower taxes and let the free market grow stronger for long-term growth
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>>46927742
>F.Improve Military
They have awoken. We must be ready.
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>>46927953
>F.Lower taxes and let the free market grow stronger for long-term growth
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>>46927953
Free market got fucked in the 08 crash. So i'll go with C. We must industrialize.
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>>46927953
>A.Invest in agriculture(cash crops like cotton, sugar, coffee)

>>46927984
>wanting the nose to get access to the free market and pull out monopolies everywhere
WHY
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>>46927953
B
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>>46927953
>D.Invest in infrastructure
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>>46927953
>D.Invest in infrastructure
Don't think we've done this in a while guys. We should really improve our railways. and roads.
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>>46927953
>B
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>>46927953
b
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In what way would recycling be in?cause if we could start that soon. Then by the time it's fully implemented we could have to use a lot less resources. Per person, to achieve 1st or 2nd world amenities.
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New mines have been opened in the Corelands, providing a close supply of raw resources for the local industry. Manufacturing has begun to develop in the colonies as well, some railroads are being built in more economically important locations.
The vast supply of resources available to our market will allow increased growth of manufacturing and easier construction to occur in the future.

>Population:57 000 000 (63% white, 9 % chink,2% kafi, 3% hibibi, 5 % pajit, 3% darkskin,10% ramki,5% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 8 000 000 Eyerdar 2 000 000 Veita 2 000 000 Ocras

>Economy:8/10
>Food stockpiles:8/10
>Food production: 8/10
>Political Stability: 8/10


>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Construction
>F.Improve Military
>G.Research science
>H.Improve Navy
>I.Improve economy
>J.Regional development
>K.Diplomacy and war
>L.Government and laws
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>>46927953
C. be ready for full industrialization and mass production.
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>>46928281
>I.Improve economy
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>>46928281
>G.Research science
we need motors and electricty
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>>46928281
C. improve religion and culture to unify our peoples and solidify our nation. maybe expand our religion for non white integration?
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>>46928281
F
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Rolled 64 (1d100)

>>46928281
>I. Improve economy.
We need to have a grand economy for war to support the troops and guns.
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>>46928281
L. Place laws to limit hunting of certain species and the extent of which foresting is allowed. Have we not forgotten our believes and the holiness of nature?
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>>46928281
>>I.Improve economy
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>>46928281
>F
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>>46928281
C
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We continue to make efforts to improve our economy
A.Invest in better,large-scale agriculture, increasing food and cash crop production
B.Invest in the development of factories and manufacturing
C.Invest in infrastructure, constructing railroads to link more distant provinces to the Corelands, better ports for our steamships, better city planning
D.Let the free market fix it, cut taxes
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>>46928281
C
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>>46928417
>C.Invest in infrastructure, constructing railroads to link more distant provinces to the Corelands, better ports for our steamships, better city planning
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>>46928417
C.
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>>46928417
C. Railroads
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>>46928417
>C.Invest in infrastructure, constructing railroads to link more distant provinces to the Corelands, better ports for our steamships, better city planning
with all the railroads logistics will be easy
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>>46928417
>C.
I shall lead this infrastructure revolution, with my architectural prowes it shall be a great Railroad. Better than the one the kaichou has developed. And they're teaking our jobs on the rails. NO. Whites come first in building the Rails to unify our people under the White rails.
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We have rifling and can mass produce ammunition right?
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A massive new project has been announced as the National Railroad Company will be expanding its operations across all of Aymsland over the next two decades. With dynamite and tunneling technology from the kaichou we've linked Ranger Valley to the north, providing us with rapid access to vast amounts of high-quality timber from the northeastern provinces. Railroads are being constructed in the deserts, the mountains, the steppes, the forestlands - it will be a major undertaking, but we will see it through and our continent will be linked to the railroads! The NRC is expanding its operations in the colonies as well.
Resources are brought to producers, who bring their products to the consumer - all done easier and cheaper with the harnessed power of coal and iron!

>Population:59 000 000 (66% white, 9 % chink,2% kafi, 3% hibibi, 3 % pajit, 3% darkskin,9% ramki,5% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 8 400 000 Eyerdar 2 300 000 Veita 2 300 000 Ocras

>Economy:8/10
>Food stockpiles:8/10
>Food production: 8/10
>Political Stability: 8/10


>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Construction
>F.Improve Military
>G.Research science
>H.Improve Navy
>I.Improve economy
>J.Regional development
>K.Diplomacy and war
>L.Government and laws
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>>46928612
>>C.Improve religion/culture
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>>46928612
>I.Improve economy

We can further push the boundaries of our nation's industry! If we can lower the number of farmers needed to sustain a certain population, then we can send those spare people into the mines, factories and armies of our nation!

OR

>G.Research science

We have so much more industrial capacity, lets see what we can achieve with this, shall we?
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>>46928612
F
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>>46928612
J. Set up more mines and places to harvest valuable resources in Ocras. 10/10 Economy when?
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>>46928612
C
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>>46928612
>G.Research science
we can't keep using coal forever, we need electricity and oil
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>>46928612
>G. Research science.
We must finally build the motor to be place in trains and factories, quickening the processes.
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>>46928681
To be frank, chances are we could last off of this worlds coal for quite some time. Mostly because we have direct control over businesies which use it and over most of the supply
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What area of our religion or culture should we improve?
A.The arts
B.Religious construction
C.Religious institution(public morale and higher birthrates)
D.A new wonder
E.Something else
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>>46928731
C
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>>46928731
>D.A new wonder
A wonder of engineering a proof that will eternally last of our existence
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>>46928731
D
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>>46928731
C More white born rate
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>>46928731
C.
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>>46928731
>D.A new wonder
We should focus on culture a little. Really give the newer generation TIES regardless of race.
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>>46928731
A
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>>46928731
C
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>>46928731
>D.
We must build the statue of our God the size of the Lady Liberty our previous empires had before the tech was shut down to it's beginning we build up.
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>>46928731
>C
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>>46928731
>D
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>>46928731
C.
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>>46928731
A
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Religious institutions have increased our people's unifying belief in the Elements and our ambitions to secure a future for our race.

>Population:61 000 000 (67% white, 9 % chink,2% kafi, 3% hibibi, 3 % pajit, 2% darkskin,9% ramki,5% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 8 600 000 Eyerdar 2 500 000 Veita 2 500 000 Ocras

>Economy:8/10
>Food stockpiles:8/10
>Food production: 8/10
>Political Stability: 8/10


>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Construction
>F.Improve Military
>G.Research science
>H.Improve Navy
>I.Improve economy
>J.Regional development
>K.Diplomacy and war
>L.Government and laws
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>>46928933
D. Settle the eastern shores of Veita.
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>>46928933
F
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>>46928933
>>F.Improve Military
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>>46928933
>G. Research Science
Get motors
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>>46928933
>F
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>>46928933
>F.Improve Military
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>>46928933
F
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Military improvement time is long overdue now
What are TWO areas we should focus on in particular?
A.The creation of a military-industrial complex for mass-production of armaments and supplies
B.Improvement in infantry training and light armament(rifles, revolvers)
C.Improve our cavaly
D.Improve our officers, strategy and tactics
E.Improve our artillery
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>>46929075
B.Improvement in infantry training and light armament(rifles, revolvers)
D.Improve our officers, strategy and tactics

Two more turns of mil tech, then we do science?
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>>46929075
A and B
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