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>resources
pastebin.com/J3Nv182k

Age of Chaos is a "gift" edition

All non-Stormcast novels are nice.
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remove sigmarines
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More Stormcast
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>>46919465
SILVER TOWER
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>>46919465
Archaon is literally posing there rather than bothering to fight. What a glorious motherfucker.

No, I'm not carnac. I'm just a sucker for some classy mid-battle posing.
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>>46919465

TheInsider has been exposed for the liar he is and can't stand behind his comments. Never doubt Hastings ever again.

TheInsider. • an hour ago

I have already tried to post today, I'm waiting to see if Natfka has the good grace to allow it.

I never said AoS was selling as well as 40k, but it is doing better the WFB this comes from the horses mouth.

I never attacked WFB fan's,or any other fans.
Go and read my posts in the other threads and see for yourselves.
To those of you who have taken my words and corrupted them to suit your own agenda, you are the very people that ruin the community, why you have done this is beyond me and is simply disgusting.

Hastings has no way of knowing GW financials that simply is nonsense.
Nor does anyone else, apart from the CEO and a few heads of department's.

Thanks to those who have acted like decent people, and I will say this the future looks good.
Wait and see!

I'll probably not be posting here again as the amount of abuse I have suffered for telling the truth is not worth it.
Thanks for all the fish!
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>>46919536

Hastings is our only true prophet.

Well him and Sadpanda.
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>>46919536
>"AoS has overtaken WFB and is up there with 40k for sales and interest."
>"I never said AoS was selling as well as 40k, but it is doing better the WFB this comes from the horses mouth."
>"The term "Up There" is a way of saying getting better like "getting up there". I was under a tight time line when I made those posts."
There's a little bit of easing off having written the first post in a way that could imply sales match 40k, but I wouldn't say he's admitted to being a liar.
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>>46919536
lol'd.
the point is: rumors are rumors.
Expecially regarding sales, if you really think aos is outselling 40k(and i for one like aos)you are delusional.
I still hope the rumor about narrative campaign beign focused on warlords is still true because its an interesting idea.
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>>46919536
>I'll probably not be posting here again as the amount of abuse I have suffered for telling the truth is not worth it.
Damage control: The post
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>>46919536
Much like mmo loot drama, lol.
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>>46919726
The thing is theInsider predicted points and aside from the sales thing, which is one sentence that seems almost throwaway the rest is entirely plausible.

Tbh sounds like both of them have no clue about sales.
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>>46919967
>Tbh sounds like both of them have no clue about sales.

Maybe, but you have to admit Stormcasts not selling is a lot easier to swallow than them doing just as well (or "up there") as Space Marines!
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>>46920035

There's no maybe, ifs or buts. Zero stormcast kits were amongst the top28 last year at GW, while several Sm, and even CSM kits placed on the list.
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>>46920035
Sure I'm not saying that but he's been right in the past and nitpicking one thing doesn't mean the rest is necessarily wrong.
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>>46919967
>The thing is theInsider predicted points and aside from the sales thing
Pretty much everyone was expecting the arrival of a point system down the road

The real thing with "TheInsider" is that it looked so much like GW trying to convince the fans the ship is not sinking it's not even funny.
We'll see if he's right about brets and TK doing a comeback tho.
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>>46920035
There's no way Stormcasts are selling as well as Space Marines

I think they are doing better than most of WHFB was, though. That's just the impression I get in my local scene.
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>>46920093
Until a few months ago everyone was saying points would never happen.
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>>46920107
Mind counting the number of people asking for points before the reveal of the announcement on their facebook page?
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So what do you guys think will be in the Flesh Eater Death Battletome next week ?
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>>46920187
>Mind counting the number of people asking for points before the reveal of the announcement on their facebook page?
Asking for them and saying they are definitely coming are different things entirely.
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How competitive/viable is a fluffy savage orc army (assuming clash comp)?
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>>46920219
isn't it the 3rd time you ask that in the AoS general ?
Anyway it's pretty viable, but much better if you add a couple of Arachnaroks. Forest goblin also fit the "savage" theme really well.
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>>46920219
Quite fine if you use 4-5 Stonehorns and a few Arachnaroks.
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Kind sirs, please, tell me does novel "Warbeast" spoil anything from campaingbooks or is it unrelated story as "Call of Archaon"?
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>>46920244
Asked it the first time last thread and only reply was a troll so tried again.
I'd prefer to keep it orcs only.. Maybe ogres too - but I can deal with arachnaroks
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>>46920189
Cool shit
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>>46920308
Speaking of trolls, Grab a box of river trolls and grab two bodies off a bits seller and you got 5 whole motherfukn trolls.
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>>46920048

If I was a betting man I'd say we'll see a handful of Stormcasts kits in their best selling end of year list for this year of 2016
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>>46920308
I could have sworn I replied to that...

A fluffy orc list will do good. Really, what part of orc fluff are you going for? What is the movie in your mind that your looking to make?
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>>46920366

Quite fortunate then that you aren't a betting man. Stay that way for your own sake.
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>>46920366
I've seen way more people use stormcast miniatures as 40k conversion fodder than as what they were intended for though.
That is of course just from the perspective of my personal bubble.
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>>46920219

Everything Works In Age Of Sigmar!
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>>46920308
Savage orks + Arachnarok will make a good force, if want to expand later you can add water trolls or Big ogre monsters like the thundertusk, they literally rape heavily armored force and that's the only struggle with savage orcs.
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>>46920397

That's right, and the reason why people like Serabro, Slaanesh Bro, or Butthurt Beastmen Bro can have a sense of success in this system.
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Finished a Bastiladon

Sorry about the bad photo, I still need to make a proper lightbox
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>>46920417
Not sure if you're phrasing that as a positive or negative...
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>>46920417
How much do the feds pay your bitch ass to fuck up 4chins? Seriously. I can't wait till your fuckass job gets outsourced to bots entirely and you can suck another marketing firms cock you smug shit.

Just end it.
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>>46920425
Looks amazing, I love the patterns on top.
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>>46920380
Not really any movie or anything in particular. The new orc shaman release I think looks great for a savage orc shaman, but just basically want to paint up a frenzied savage orc horde covered in tattoos etc, don't really like the aesthetic of black orcs and goblins though so would like to keep it as much savage orcs as possible.. Spider riders and arachnaroks I could live with though
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>>46920425
Here's a shot from the other side
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>>46920397
How do bretonnians perform in clash comp?
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>>46919465
Age of Sigmar General

>>46920442
>Just end it.

/agreed
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>>46920458
Generally are quite strong.
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>>46920446
That's fine...humm...Sounds like you have the makings of a good theme here, and it is a bit strong my only concern for you would be to consider what to add just in case of heavy armor. I'm not too familiar with the Destruction Alliance so...I can't give you much advice. Just that you may want 1 or two things with rend -1 or -2. Just in case your going against a heavy armor army like the Start Collecting Chaos box. Otherwise you should be fine with what you described.
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>>46919536
>WHFB fans bullying people for posting rumors

Literal goober gate level of retardation.
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>>46920189
Huh? First time I hear of this. I like Ghouls so cautiously optimistic.
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>>46920442

We've found Butthurt Beastmen Bro boys!
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>>46920538

>not interested in the truth, only muh feelings

Hmmm...
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So, looking for my second force next to beastmen. So far I am interested in these 3: Clan Pestilens, Wanderer or Undead with a focus on Skeletons. Out of those which would have the most interesting gameplay? Beastmen are pretty much get into melee and hope minotaurs can clean up at some point, so I am looking for something a little different.
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Repostin' :
Hey guys i'm looking to build a combined fyreslayer/dispossessed force and was wondering is there any synergy between the two?
So far i can only find abilities that specifically target each sub faction rather than Duardin as a whole. Have I missed something? Or is all the synergy self contained in each sub faction?
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>>46919536

guy's quite pathetic desu
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>>46919536
Did fantasy fans really attack the guy for posting a rumor? Serious question: How fucking butthurt are these people? How can ones jimmies be so rustled over a fucking tabletop?
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>>46920621
>How can ones jimmies be so rustled over a fucking tabletop?

Ask the Age of Sigmarians who had a meltdown when point system was announced
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>>46920636
Other than a few faggots posting "Oh noes, AoS is perfect the way it is plz no points" I have seen nothing of AoS player other than them welcoming the play options.
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>>46919536
BEHEAD THOSE WHO INSULT THE PROPHET HASTINGS
WARHAMMER FANTASY IS THE TRUTH
THE OLD WORLD CANNOT BE STOPPED
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>>46920636
Yeah but that died down a lot in a day.

A year later these Jimmies are still rustled to levels pleasing to Khorne. I'm not saying a lot of us didn't hit this level, I'm saying we came down from it.
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>>46920621

Not really, more like 40k fans started to ridicule and mock him when he said AoS sells as much as 40k, which is frankly understandable, because it's is quite clearly delusional.
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>>46920665
Were your jimmies rusteled because of the point announcement? Why? It is simply another way of play and nothing stops you from playing the way you play right now.
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>>46920689
I was miffed, because just a day ago I defended not having points. I got over it in...10 minutes. At which point I reached indifferent. It's optional so didn't care.

I think the thread where the announcement was posted went from Blood Thirster to High Elf Phoenix King (Sipping Tea and writing tranquil Haiku) in about an hour or less.
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>>46920578
Wanderer might be good, unique playstyle might tie in on beastmen nature theme.
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>>46920689
Sure, but who plays unbound 40k or narrative WHFB. There were rules for that for years. Some people were just worried they'll get forced to play with points because no matter how much GW plasters 'OPTIONAL' over it everyone will gravitate to it. I'm ambivalent personally. I'll see how they handle it.
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>>46920588
Might stay that way till new dwarf book
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>>46920782

DURADIN
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>>46920219
>fluffy savage orc

The battalion in legacy compendium is quite good and fluffy, +1A at 1st charge, and +1, literally 5+ to ignore wound. Savage ork is quite good, when you equip them with bow and choppa, don't forget the big stabba, and 20 model per unit if you can effort; boar boyz just go for wizard hunting.

You need some artillery, rock lobba, doom diver, thundertusk, pick anything that fit your theme, and budget(skip failcast if you can).
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Holy shit, just saw the new Orcs, they look amazing. that is all. Shame the new Megaboss is already sold out.
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>>46920788
>DURADIN

It's Duardin faggot.
WHFB fan are so retarded they can't even remember a simple name.
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>>46920588
>any synergy between the two
They, actually most order have minimal synergy cross faction, so just take whatever that fit your theme. In other side, Chaos gain tons of synergy across faction, no suprise they beat Order in Age of Myths.
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>>46921074

Nice try, fucker. Next time you will tell me that Sepharons are Seraphons or some other bullshit like that, right?
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>>46921074

It is incredible how easy is to trigger aosfags. Not even a challenge anymore.
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>>46921134
>Sepharons

All Lizardmen now have long silver hair and one wing.
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>>46921124
Unless it's a Dark Elf Dreadlord (works on anything Keyworded Order), I agree to a point.
Most of my "cross faction" is any Chaos Knight, Any Chaos Warriors, and my Slaaneshi lords are "any mortal Slaanesh" but we aren't super amazing end all of end all synergy with everything either.
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Pic very related to your posts.
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>>46921134
Not my fault if you just can't even troll properly

>>46921162
Is it just the salt coming from the Ork Megaboss already being sold out ?
What does it feel like having the proof that AoS outsell WHFB ?
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>>46921338
>Is it just the salt coming from the Ork Megaboss already being sold out ?

Wow you weren't kidding.
Fantasy Grognards on suicide watch confirmed.
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>>46921214
Yeah, hopefully gw don't adopt the scgt idea of restricting greater alliance force org in matched play.

I mean chaos player brings skarbrand in a pestilence nurgle list, why the fuck can't I run my WoC with Skellingtons?

Hoping they keep that shit unrestricted...
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>>46921425
>I mean chaos player brings skarbrand in a pestilence nurgle list, why the fuck can't I run my WoC with Skellingtons?
I mean if they keep the synergy quite restricted it's barely even OP.
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>>46921338
>>46921394

Age of Sigmar actually sold out of something. A first for the system. Thank all the 40k Ork players for this. Maybe next time give Sigmarines real bolters and powerfists and they'll actually sell. :^)
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>>46921448
Exactly. I want to forge some serious narrative.
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>>46920467
Just kill yourself, m8
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>>46921473
>NaCl
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>>46921473
So AoS Sales so strong they even cannibalize 40K ? wow. GW really nailed AoS then.
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>>46921522
>So AoS Sales so strong they even cannibalize 40K ?

Dat google translation lmao.
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>>46921522

Yes, they couldn't get SM players to buy their cheap knock offs Stormcasts but Ork players who haven't had a new kit in a decade run after these megaboss kit. Good job. :^)
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>>46921575
Glad we agree that AoS hit all the marks WHFB missed to stay alive.
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>>46921593

Yes, we are agreed that AoS 'fans' aren't buying anything and its all 40k players with armies neglected by GW buying stuff. :^)
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Why do you guys keep replying to these shitposters
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>>46921623

For you.
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>>46921623
These niggas never learn.

At this point, however, I find it kind of ridiculous and amazing at the same time that people can continue to shitpost the way they do and do it in such a concise manner that they are ontime around 10am EST. Shit baffles me.

On a shittier note, I just got my Deathrattle army squared away but shit's gonna take me at least 3 weeks to assemble and give a basic paintjob to play with. Damn Skellingtons.
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>>46920739
Don't you mean Aelf? :^)
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>>46920588
They have none in the way of keywords. All of their abilities only effect their own sub-faction.
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>>46921623
Because shitposting is over half of the content of these threads anyway?
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>>46921732
>New Orruk Release, New Boardgame announcement, Points announced
>People still shitpost
baka
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>>46921768
Yeah, its been rough the past several threads.
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>>46920621
Trust me he deserves it. Dude made up bullshit, then tried to damage control and accused people of "twisting his words" before throwing his buggies out of the pram and fuckig off.

Also, from personal experience on the site, the dude is the most passive aggressive dipshit ever on the site. He fuckibg nails that point where he says stuff to piss you off yet if you reply you'll probably get banned for reasons (banning works weird there).

In short, he's a cunt.
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So anyone there has got the cabagge rider yet?
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>>46921623
And the people who keep posting lies about AoS anything other than a sales disaster are not shitposting?

Hell yesterday one of you delusional morons compared GW not bothering to put in any way to balance game to being unplugged from the god damn Matrix. As if GW finally realising that releasing an unfinished game was a terrible idea was going to ruin the gaming experience.
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>>46918225
They did. Gordrakk is the firstbkrn literal son of Gork and Mork, the origin of all the new greenskins.

He's a Primarch. An Ork Primarch.
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>>46921919
Godamn there were a lot of errors in my post.

Instead of buggies I meant to say toys. Don't know how that happened.
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>>46919465
Hypothetically speaking, and I am asking an honest question here, what would happen if AOS didn't pick up and continued to tank?

Would GW do an AOS End Times? If so what would they look like?

What would come next?

I like AOS as a disclaimer.
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>>46921939
He isn't the origin of the Greenskins. He is just a shard of Gork that was created when Gork punched a Chaos Dreadhold out existence. Once he was born, he went out to defeat the 5 Megabosses of the Ironjawz and make himself the boss.

Normal Orruks and Ironjawz existed longe before he was born.
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>>46920752
>who plays unbound 40k

Obviously this is anecdotal, but it's pretty damn common in my community. Not in the 'I'm bringing eighteen Wraithknights' way, but in the 'I want to bring nothing but Burnas, Meks, and Deff Dreds as a scrapping crew for our Space Hulk campaign.'

I'm aware that this may well not be the norm.
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>>46922112
>if AOS didn't pick up and continued to tank?

Gone for good, or go to maintenance mode like mmo.
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>>46922148
Someone posted lore two threads ago saying he was the first.
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>>46922359
What's maintenance mode?

I don't play many MMOs I'm afraid.
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>>46922112
Put on the backburner, left to languish like the Specialist Games before (rules left up on the website for awhile, models no longer sold in stores, gradually left to die)

Old school WHFB is never coming back though, not even if AoS continues to tank.
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MFW I realized I like the age of sigmar shit post threads more than 40k general whiney threads.
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>>46922360
I am the guy who posted it and I tell you it doesn't say that.
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>>46922383
>What's maintenance mode?
No update, minimum to zero bug fix, just maintenance it until all customer leave. Such like what anon said. >>46922389

>>46922398
>it doesn't say that.
But... if Gordarkk say he is the 1stborn, I think not a single greenakinz dare to say no...
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>>46922482
>if Gordarkk say he is the 1stborn

What Firstborn means is that he is the first Orruk that was created directly from Gork and Mork. He didn't spring out from fungus like the rest of the Greenskins, the gods created from from nothing.
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>>46921898
>several threads
aos general that is not at least 60% shitposting is a bad aos general
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>>46922528
What fungus?
The only way there could be new greenskins is if G/M created some, since nothing survived the old setting. Greenskins are not naturally occurring wildlife.

So if Gordrakk is the first born, he's the first. Anything he encountered was created after him, but not in the same place.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/10055507
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>>46922624
>What fungus?

The fungus spores all Orruk and Greenskins come from.

>The only way there could be new greenskins is if G/M created some, since nothing survived the old setting. Greenskins are not naturally occurring wildlife.

Wrong, the Mortal Realms are populated by the descendants of survivors from the World-That-Was. This includes Orruk tribes. In the new AoS audiobook there are two Orruk tribes that have been fighting each other since the End Times and their war continued in AoS.

>So if Gordrakk is the first born, he's the first. Anything he encountered was created after him, but not in the same place.

Gordrakk was created during the Age of Chaos. There were TONS of Orruks and Ironjawz before the Age of Chaos fighting alongside Gorkamorka in the Age of Myth.
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>>46922653
Thing is, we've already sort of got open play rules, there's the least (that I can think) to be added. So, even though after summer I'll still probably be mostly playing open play, I'm most hyped for the narrative stuff as there's new stuff there.
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>>46922773
I should add that the bosses of the two Orruk/Orc tribes that have been fighting since the End Times are now mountain sized. Sigmar had to fight them both to stop their rampage. When he returned to Azyr, nobody recognized him from all damage he sustained.

Does this confirm that greenskins have no limit for how large they can grow?
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>>46922581
More like a dead general.

And I don't mean the posse of Nagash.
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>>46922653
Voted.
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Hey AOS General...got a question...How bad would it ruin things if I bought a Warp Lightning projector and swapped out the Skaven crew for something more fitting with my army?

I'm trying to get enough to get free shipping on my order and most of the other stuff I was thinking about getting is sold out. Is this a bad conversion?
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>>46923236
>swapped out the Skaven crew
If you can't make a cool conversion, just leave it as your skaven mercenary, since they hired by Nurgle, Tzeentch and Khorne already.

>>46922528
>Firstborn
Maybe, Gordrakk is the Avatar of Gorkamorka, much like Celestant-Prime to Sigmar.
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>>46923236
My feeling would be that it's a bit rickety in construction for a slaanesh army - the WLC frame looks like random bits of wood nailed together which isn't very elegant at all.

I mean, in principle it's a perfectly fine thing to do (I've got a tzeentchian beastlord on a disk who's pretended to be everything from a sorcerer on a disk to gorthor on his chariot) but I'm just not sure the WLC will look right.
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>>46923371
>Maybe, Gordrakk is the Avatar of Gorkamorka, much like Celestant-Prime to Sigmar.

He is, basically. However, he is Gork's boy. Gork created him from his brutality, and Mork breathed his cunning into him. He is the Fist of Gork.

What's missing now is the First of Mork. Some Greenskin who was created by Mork's cunning and had Gork breath his brutality into him. My guess is that it would be a Grot/Goblin.
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>>46923382
Good point. Perfection in all things and that is less than perfect construction.
>>46923371
Worth Considering. I do have a cheese but fluffy list to deal with of a Dreadlord on Black dragon, 3 reaper bolt throwers now, and 20 dark shards.

My list is Lord of Slaanesh on Demon Steed
Demon Prince with Sword and Wings
Sorcerer Lord
10 Chaos Warriors
5 Chaos Knights
1 Gorebeast chariot.
I need something to help take out those blasted bolt throwers or they will chew me up in seconds.
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>>46922112
Stealing this anons question.

What would Age of Sigmar End Times look like?
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>>46920425
I would have made the white highlights much thinner on the crystals but it looks great
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>>46923514
any suggestions Anons?
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>>46923591
Sigmar gathers up his old godly allies in Azyr for a last stand against Archaon.

Just as it appears that the forces of Order are about to win....Mannfred Von Carstein pops up from nowhere and screws everyone over.

Then everyone dies.
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>>46923591

Well I imagine it would play out much like the WHFB End Times did, except Azyr would be under siege and destroyed by the Chaos hordes (funnily enough, the story is working up to Archaon breaking into Azyr).

>>46923793

Yes I agree with the Mannfred part, it would be like poetry to have that happen again.
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>>46919465
GW killed my 20+ year interest in Warhammer with this but I don't want to just dump my thousands of models.

How is it doing? is there any hope that it will die or at least be remade into something with point values and strategy? For all I know it already has points values again. If there's no hope that GW will ever unshit the bed then what should I do with my models?

And no GW shills, this is not a troll post, it's a question about the state of the 'game' (an activity with no stakes and no skill is not a real game).
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>>46923825
They announced a point value game mode yesterday

More details coming this summer
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>>46923825
Do you believe a wargame must have balanced armies to be strategic?

If so you are in luck, army balance rules are coming
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>>46923825
If you want points values...
wait 3 months they are coming this summer.
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>>46923857
Well that's something anyway, that one detail absolutely killed it for me, I could never imagine how anyone thought it was a good idea.

>>46923864
A good meta is more important so being able to over balance against opponents is the point of any game. It seemed that they had loads of good ideas and then just shat on it all when they threw out any reason to play in the first place.

And round bases, not in this fucking lifetime. Can you just rank up your units in beautiful orderly squares or has that been banned?
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>>46923924
>I could never imagine how anyone thought it was a good idea.
It's fun in its own way

I am glad they are adding a point system, though; I enjoy unbound as well as comp
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>>46923895
Pfffftahahahahahahaha
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>>46923943
I think it's okay if you know your opponent well but there's enough fucking munchkins in this hobby that I don't see how it could work with unknown players. I had to deal with so much cheating even when there were points it was too much.
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I miss Duncan.
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>the aesthetics of AoS is entirely style over substance
>the rules have the depth of a sippy cup
>the fluff is entirely devoid of any wits or logic

Are dedicated AoS players the most shallow and unsophisticated of fa/tg/uys?
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>>46923973
Kind of agree here.

I find its fine with mates, but there needs to be structure between to unknowns. It's just too annoying to balance it when the two of you have different ideas of what balance is.
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>>46923924
It's not banned, but has 0 strategic benefit now. Might even be detrimental. You know like how American colonists were able to use tactics derived from savages to hold their own against the best army in the world at the time. Rank and file becomes a hinderance when everyone else is free moving, or spaced out. best advantage it could offer is to block some LOS.
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>>46923973
Yeah I hear ya

I really enjoyed open play AOS because I have some good buddies that aren't powergaming WAAC faggots, but trying to play it with strangers is a nightmare combination of aspergers and bad odours
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>>46924020
It's a testament to how much i loved Fantasy that I would brave the local GW and people who have no idea of personal boundaries or hygiene. But I wouldn't do it to let them smash their unpainted action figures against ones I've spent months painting.
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>>46924004
Do people do it though? And how many people have kept their square bases? It seems like something that could throw an opponent off if they were expecting you to skirmish and you're ranked up, just like when they figured it out thousands of years ago.
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I think it could swing the other way. Maybe the good guys win, and the chaos Gods get stomped for once. It would still be the end of the setting, but not the despiteallthe esteffortsofeveryonechaosstillwins we are so used to
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>>46924132
No rule against it so no harm. Some (all) of the Seraphon stuff my sister uses is from (10) years ago when we tried to get into fantasy but it was too damn slow playing and it's all square based. No rule against it, but no reason to either not going to throw anyone off. Anyone using old warhammer stuff mostly left it on square bases.
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>>46924132
I kept my skaven on their square bases, but that's because I still play WHFB sometimes. Plus, that's a lot of base swapping to do for a swarm army.
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>>46924132
AOS really punishes tightly packed groups of units with cleaving strikes

I kept summoning Kroxigor against a guy that had a bunch of empire units on square bases. Eventually he realized it would be a good idea to swap his stuff to circle bases.
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I am surprised that GW didn't a commission a vidya game to promote AoS.

So if they are actually going to do it, what kinda of vidya game genre should they choose?
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>>46924322
First person shooter?
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>>46924322
A pay to win mobile turd of course.
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>>46923445
Primarchs were preceded by the Warriors.

Prime and Gordrakk are Primarchs.
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>>46924322
I really think an arena/spectacle fighter would work really well. It's more YOUR GUYS than massed combat any more so Total Warhammer is a bit too large scale.
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This has probably been asked before but I just wanted to check. How do the contents differ in the Battletomes vs the "army" books?

Does the battletome Order contain all the lizardmen stuff in their book just without the fluff?

Or is it how I think it would be for most sales:
Order contains units + army scrolls, lizardmen contains units + different scrolls? So if I wanted all the Orc stuff, I'd have to buy Destruction + Orc book? or just Destruction?
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>>46924669
>>46924322
>Warhammer MOBA

Please no
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>>46924641
>Primarchs were preceded by the Warriors.

Primarchs came first and from their geneseed the Space Marines were created.

Celestant Prime was among the first Stormcast.

Gordrakk is just an Orruk that Gork and Mork created during the Age of Chaos to be their chosen Megaboss. Orruks existed before he was born see (>>46922773).

Gordrakk is more like the Emperor of the Destruction faction.
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>>46924770
There is 40k MOBA, early access or beta or whatever.
It. Is. Bad.
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>>46924785
Link?
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>>46924785
Not a surprise there, since there is no such thing as a good moba.
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>>46924817
Heroes of the Storm is nice.
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>>46924798
Dark Nexus Arena? Something like that. It's on Steam.
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>>46924826
I don't want to give a shitty company like Blizzard my money.
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>>46924768
>Does the battletome Order contain all the lizardmen stuff in their book just without the fluff?
Yes

Any model tagged with Order is in the Grand Alliance: Order book

Similarly, all Chaos units are in GA Chaos, all Death are in GA Death, and all Destruction are in GA Destruction.

*Except Tomb Kings and Bretonnians, but they have free rules online
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>>46924975
So to add to that, are all the Warscrolls[?] (unit groups) the same in both books?
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>>46924915
It's F2P.
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>>46925032
Do you mean the Battalions? No, those are not free.

The GA books contain some battalions but they aren't the complete set. I'm not sure about every faction but I can speak for Seraphon here:

1 in Start Collecting! Seraphon box
4-5 in Battletome: Seraphon
2-3 in GA: Order
1-2 in Godbeasts

I'm sure there is more out there. They add a few to each major book release, usually fluffy ones that correspond to the material in the book.

You'll have to dig through the online scans to find all of them.
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Its been a year, why do people still shitpost these threads. Like is your autism so bad that you have to hate on a game you dont like in EVERY thread.

If you want it to bomb just stop posting, let the thread die. Let it sink with 20 posts. You always say nobody plays the game so the thread should bomb hard without all you shitposters bumping it constantly.

But you know thats not going to happen dont you. You know the games doing fine and these threads are active when theyre not full of shitposts. But hey, look how well WHFB thread do. I havent seen a single one in months.
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>>46924892
>servers shut down since March 31st

LOL
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>>46925132
Oh that's disappointing. I was asking because I was considering picking up the 4 forces books and was trying to discern the purpose of the "army" books.

Given that I can get the scrolls for units online anyway I figured the forces books contained all of the battalions as a way to get you to buy the books. Apparently it's not that simple.

Thanks anon.
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>>46925225
The grand alliance books are just for convenience, really. I find the app very cumbersome and I enjoy having a hard copy in my hands.

Also makes it really easy for my opponent to look up any rules that he needs.

They're also way cheaper than the old codexes. I think GA Death and Destruction are only $20 each.

They are worth buying imo
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>>46924253
How do square bases prevent one to play on open formation?
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>>46924770
I hate mobas like the next person - it's the same thing as the MMO boom of the late 00s. Instead of the WoW killer, it's the LoL killer. I meant more along the lines of maybe Shadow of Mordor or even Spartan Total Warrior if you remember that lol
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>>46925253
Ditto. I have them all for convenience.

Did GA Order get updated with the Extremis Chamber stuff? I bought the battletome for it but I'm wondering.
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>>46925280
They don't, but they stack up better so players tend to group their units up more. The smaller edge space sometimes allows you to bring an extra unit or two within range with melee weapons.

You might be able to get more hits off but it also opens you up to a huge amount of cleaving attacks.
In the example of Kroxigor vs Freeguild, getting in range with your swordsmen for 3 more attacks with 5/4 R0 D1 weapons is not worth giving the Kroxigor 3 more 4/3 R1 D2 weapons.
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>>46925168
Its the same faggots trolling both Fantasy and AoS threads, pretending to represent the opposite game.

Report them. They get banned for it.
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>>46925345
Yes, EC is in GA:Order.

I only got my copy last night so I haven't looked through it closely enough yet, but I think there might be a unique Battalion for EC in there as well.
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>>46925168
There have been quite a few. There is one up right now. But, they are consistently dead.
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>>46925331
"the next person" doesn't hate mobas though
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>>46925353
What's a cleaving attack?
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>>46925404
I meant shitty knockoff mobas.
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>>46920452
>>46920425
I love the warm orange. Very lovely.
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>>46925417
It's an ability that some weapons can have. It allows the user to have 1 attack for each model within their striking range.

I know Kroxigor have it (it's called a Sweeping Blow here) as well as a few Khorne units.
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>>46925417
Some models don't have a fixed attack value, but rather get as many attacks as there are enemy models in weapon range.
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>>46925475
Kroxigors with moonhammer, Decimators, Prosecutors with grandaxe, Skarr Bloodwrath. Can't think of anyone else right now.
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>>46923983
It's still shitposters
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>>46923972
Don't strain yourself bucko. You'll need thy strength for the amount of cocks you'll be guzzling later.
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>>46925564
At least he gets got game at all.
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>>46925612
>At least he gets got game at all.
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>>46925612
I'm the guy he's insulting and even I think your full of shit.
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>>46925726
>We walked to school
>He would follow us on his bicycle
Wut.
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I understand if you don't like AoS but why do people have to constantly come in here and shit up AoS threads all the time? No one is changing anyone else's opinion here.

People are allowed to have different opinions.
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>>46926089
Just stop bitching and report them.
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>>46926073
You can bike pretty slow, less than a decent walking pace.
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>>46925083
I'm gonna guess you need to pay to unlock the cool characters.
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>>46926229
Or do quests to get gold so you can buy any character you want.

The gold from the tutorials and character progression is more than enough to buy any character you want.
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>>46926229
Nope.
Every week there's one character of every role and from each Blizzard game that is free, and they rotate each week.

By playing, you earn in-game currency to unlock characters for keeps.

You can try out any character in a short AI match so you kniw who you want.

Its just easier when you do buy like one character to main as.
Oh, and most cosmetics other than a single "took a level in badass" from the base model cost money. But cosmetics don't count.

Lili is best girl.
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>>46926073
Have another.
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>>46926258

Unlocks in multiplayer games have been a cancer since forever.
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>>46926258
Unlocking characters in any game is bullshit.
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>>46926298
>Lili is best girl.

I used to main her, then I discovered Brightwing.

Brightwing is much more fun.
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>>46926352
Not in games like SSB.

I love the satisfaction of kicking so much ass that you get another member on your team.
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>>46923979
Emma is a qt
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>>46926387
I'm always against locking away a playstyle from the start of any multiplayer game. You shouldn't have to play a boring playstyle until you can go with the playstyle you want to play.
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>>46926456
The fuck do you mean, all characters are free.
You just have to unlock to play the same character week after week after week.

They're basically telling you to play everything.
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>>46926456
That's fair I suppose. Just personal preference.
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>>46926455

Something tells me that isn't from the GW website. Are people stalkin' her instagram/facebooks/twitter?
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>>46926455
>Emma is a qt
>Implying Duncan isn't the #1 waifu
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>>46926562

I'd love to invite Duncan over and paint miniatures together
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>>46920425
don't know if it is is the color scheme or the fact that it doesn't have a base but it looks like 3€ toy
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>>46926588
Not OP of the photo - the strong highlights make it look a bit cartoony, yeah. I still like how it looks though, it's very clean and has a well defined style.
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>>46926456
Eh the most recent smash does it well enough since the secret characters are piss easy to unlock and you already have a Fuckton of play styles to begin with
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>>46926586
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Who here /squarebasethuglife/?

Fuck round bases. Goyim workshop will never get me to rebase my fantasy shit
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>>46927216

Right here. I own 5 armies and hundreds of models fuck GW if they think I'm going to rebase all that shit!
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>>46926552
How can you "stalk" a public social media account? Isn't self promotion the whole point of social media? Not that I support stalking her for real but come on.
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>>46926385
But lili is a sweet, tender loli panda waifu.
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>>46926301
Goddamn, that's the cutest.
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>>46927362
She was loli in her short story series, she's teen now.
Given hiw Chen sees a short but curvy dead relative panda and remarks "she looked like Lili" while walking away sadly after burying her, she'd be legal in a medieval society.

Then again, HotS is a multiverse crossover from all points in history. Tassadar alive, Raynor not knowing the events of Heart while Tychus doesn't know the events of Wings.

That's not even getting into how the cosmetics are different universes, like how Kaiju Diablo attacked Kexan so they built five robots that transform into Mecha Tassadar to fight him.
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>>46927286
just do like me.
Buy this https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Citadel-25mm-Round-Bases
then use http://www.master194.com/encyclo/patafix/patafix25.jpg

And just put your beautifully modeled base on top of the black round shit.
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>>46927431
I'm feeling generous.

Last one.
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>>46926298
Theres 10 free characters every week
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>>46928135
Dayum, they increased it!
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>>46920689
Underrated post
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So I'm thinking ahead and wondering about adding a Soul Grinder, but am wondering how to do a good conversion on it. I've seen some good ones, anyone have any ideas how this one was done?
Also want to make it look less Scifi more Steam Punk /Fantasy. Any Suggestions on a bits seller, to get the legs at and what to use for the body (Don't mind the project costing up to $80 USD)
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>>46929188
I saw an amazing drider conversion where they took the legs off a goblin spider but no idea of the one you posted. I quite like taking the head of a fiend of slaanesh for the head of a soul grinder too.
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>>46929188
Use the legs from an arackanork spider to avoid 40k feeling(really, thats one model that doesn't fits into fantasy). The body here looks hand made, but you can use any torso you like from third parties, even from greater demons and stuff it with good amounts of green stuff.
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If GW decided to make Godbeasts played on TT, how big are they going to be on the table?
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>>46929766
The whole table
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>dangerously out of the loop fag reporting in

Used to play a lot of warhammer lost interest with AOS, heard points are coming back from a mate was he bullshitting me or is this legit?
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>>46929540
any recommendation for a body? probably resin or reaper bones?
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>>46930102
Its legit, but to what degree is unknown.
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>>46929766
>AoS Warmaster
>Godbeasts are still titan/knight sized
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>>46929766

Way too big.
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>>46925168
>>46925358
No you don't?
You don't even understand the term "shitposting"
Protip: Its not posts you disagree with.

AoS comes at the cost of a game that has 30 years of history.
You're the autistic one if you can't put together why people might be a little miffed.

Do words mean anything anymore, all I see whenever I come back to check up on horuse heresy or AoS I see a load of people using terms that don't apply to what they are talking about.

Its like watching a preppy white kid try to use Ebonics, your using the wrong words constantly, and too anyone it just comes off as juvenile deflections on actual criticism.

Why is most art release for AoS so awful?
Why is the lore so bad?
Why are sigmarines so generic?
Why are the prices so high?
Why are they continually releasing things for sigmarines when if they had any common sense they would give as many factions an update to ensure their fanbase things aren't cut?
How pure was the cocaine that GW Ceo's snorted when they decided to put a golden statue of a sigmarine in front of HQ?

What you interpret of shitposting is me expressing my frustrations of a game I have followed for longer then a decade, from me going over to friends house to specifically read his army books.
Why is it shitposting to you when I am coming to a GENERAL thread to discuss bad aspects of AoS.
This isn't
>Sigmar circlejerk thread
This isn't
>Shit on AoS thread
It's
>AoS general
Which means all discussion of the game bad and good.
Get over yourself, and if the mods have fallen so low that they would ban people for "trolling" "shitposting"(expressing opinions others may be triggered by)
Then ban me for life because I never want to take part in a community so incredibly polarized by either extreme fan loyalty or denial of any redeeming features.
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>>46929766
The rumor is they are. They'll be based on a Realm of Battle tile that fits into the rest modularly and can reach anywhere on the battlefield without moving.
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>>46930495
If its an off-topic post, in other words talking about Fantasy in an Age thread or Age in a Fantasy thread, its a bannable rules violation.
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>>46930495
This.

Sigcucks are so blind to honest legit criticism it's embarrassing.
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>>46930766
No its not?
That's like saying discussing DaS in a DaS2 game is off-topic.
AoS takes place in a continuation of WHFB, not only that its a replacement at the cost of one.
Stop hiding behind the rules to prevent any criticism of the game.
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>>46930820
>AoS takes place in a continuation of WHFB, not only that its a replacement at the cost of one.

According to /whfb/, it isn't. Dicussing AoS there is forbidden and off-topic. So that's the end of that unless you are willingly to dip into double standards. assuming you are from /whfb/.
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>>46930912
Are you a child?
Are you honestly defending trying to silence others by basing the rules off of the interpretation of another general?
I cannot see a grown man using this reasoning.
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>>46930985
AoS is not allowed in /whfb/ and whfb is not allowed in /AoS/. These rules were created for the good of both threads.

Now get out.
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>>46931042
Who made those rules?
You lord determiner of rules?
You can discuss either, stop being such a girl kissing faggot.
Either can be discussed, stop trying to backseat moderate and stomp your feet like a little child coming up with rules that were only made and enforced in your head.
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>>46930102
Legit.
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>>46931089
>Who made those rules?

The community.
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>>46931131
No it seems to me to be a few people who are desperate to keep any discussion critical of the game.
>>46931131
Which I'm part off as well, you just don't get to pick and choose who represents that based on who disagrees with you and who doesn't.
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>>46930495
>Why is the lore so bad?

I find this incredibly disingenuous. I would kill to have an actual discussion about the lore BUT generally the guys who claim that AoS lore is bad haven't read any of it.

They get hung up on names and titles but have they read any of the campaign books or battletomes? No. They tell you the lore is bad because it's bad and then they demand that you spoonfed them the lore and teach them how the setting works which drags down actual discussion.

From the content of your post and posting style I thin recognize you. You are the epitome of "sponfeed" anons which is why I called your disingenuous.

How about you read the books and novels, get an idea of the setting, and then we can engage in discussion?
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>>46925168
I thought the shitposters were the people pretending to like Age of Sigmar?
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>>46931171
>failed attempt at samefagging detected

You are not. You break the sames. Get out.
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>>46931303
>From the content of your post and posting style I thin recognize you. You are the epitome of "sponfeed" anons which is why I called your disingenuous.
This level of paranoia is typical of someone so polarized by a echochamber which becomes increasingly rabid as they see all criticism to come from outside sources.
I haven't posted on here for a few weeks and when I did it was to ask about a tech thrall conversion for the heavy chainblades.

>How about you read the books and novels, get an idea of the setting, and then we can engage in discussion?
You mean purchase products from GW who have replaced a brand I enjoy which I'm not satisfied with its replacement?
The lore of WHFB was good without ever reading a book.
I do truly think the lore is bad, for many reasons, if you want we can get into them but it seems you don't want to have actual discussion.
>>46931388
Or I am alt-tabbing a game and made a mistake.
Again the incredible paranoia which can be attributed to a echochamber.
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>>46931303
None of these faggots , but Right now I've actually been listening to the audio dramas that were available in the pastebin compendium and so far I'm enjoying it. I'm not going in any particular order but at the moment I'm finishing the Hunt for Nagash aka Sigmarines Bizarre Adventure 2: Electric boogaloo.

Really enjoy the whole dramatization of the battle sequences. I thought I'd just hear dry british men speaking the lines but even the monologue Nagash had during the beginning of each drama was really enjoyable to listen to.
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>>46931432
>Buying anything

theres a pastebin with all the shit you need already there for free you stupid fuck. Actually make an effort to read it. If you want to talk shit about it , go open one of the files and take a fucking gander then come shit on the General with something relevant to say than >hurrdurr its bad because I don't like it
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>>46931303
Sigmarines that reincarnate endlessly fight demons that can't actually die and also there's undead.

That's not interesting, there's no stakes. if the Sigmarines lose a battle, they'll just try again, and if they win it the second time, Chaos can just come back and try for round 3. The same people fighting the same battles forever in some nebulous"realms" where everything's made up and the points don't matter.
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>>46931504
>theres a pastebin with all the shit you need already there for free you stupid fuck. Actually make an effort to read it. If you want to talk shit about it
You know being abusive to another poster is against the rules right :^)
Really dude, you need to chill out and stop associating your own self worth so heavily with this game.
>Failing at greentext.
I think you make the argument for me.
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>>46931432
>I haven't posted on here for a few weeks and when I did it was to ask about a tech thrall conversion for the heavy chainblades.

I have been in every AoS thread since the very start and even before during the End Times and way before that. I know exactly what's going on and what kind of people that enter here.

>You mean purchase products from GW who have replaced a brand I enjoy which I'm not satisfied with its replacement?

Or pirate them. Look in the pastepin above. 99% of the novels and books are in there. You have no excuse, start reading.

>The lore of WHFB was good without ever reading a book.

You having a giggle?

>I do truly think the lore is bad, for many reasons, if you want we can get into them but it seems you don't want to have actual discussion.

I don't trust you to have any good opinions because you just admitted that you have to interest in delving into the lore of the new setting and examining it thus you will not able to provide any good discussion.

I hesitated to call you a shitposter but seeing your admission now, I can call you a shitposter with no regret.
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>>46931516
>That's not interesting, there's no stakes.

Wrong.

Read Quest of Ghaz Maraz, or Balance of Power, then tell me what would have happened if the Stormcast lost the battles there.

>>46931540
Like I said. look at this behavior. Trademark of a shitposter.
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Somebody sell the Stormcast Eternals to me, or point me at some decent fluff.

I've been eyeing up the starter kit for a little while to take the plunge into AoS, but one thing that's holding me back is that I... don't really get them?

Are they more than one-dimensional holy warriors?
Do they take their masks off?
When they are killed, what actually happens? Do you get 'new' Stormcasts?

Thanks in advance.
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