Dead games are fine too edition.
Link to last thread: >>46834573
>1d4chan
1d4chan.org/wiki/The_End_Times (Compilation of all the End Times changes)
1d4chan.org/wiki/Category:Warhammer_Fantasy (All pages marked WF on the /tg/ wiki)
>Warhammer Wikis
whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Main_Page (Warhammer Fantasy wiki)
warhammerfb.wikia.com/wiki/Warhammer_Wiki (Warhammer Fantasy wiki)
warhammeronline.wikia.com/wiki/Warhammer_Online_Wiki (Warhammer Online wiki with lots of background articles too. Also AoR is not ded: /vg/ for details.)
>Resources(Armybooks, Supplements, Fluff, Crunch)
pastebin.com/8rnyAa1S
www.pastebin.com/0e6RuQux
>Endhammer
http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Endhammer
>9th Age
http://www.the-ninth-age.com
>Total War: Warhammer
store.steampowered.com/app/364360/
>End Times: Vermintide
store.steampowered.com/app/235540/
>Mordheim: City of the Damned
store.steampowered.com/app/276810/
>Bloodbowl 2
store.steampowered.com/app/236690/
>Man O' War
http://store.steampowered.com/app/344240/
>Third party Miniature manufactures
http://pastebin.com/CvGaNyrk
Vlad did nothing wrong
Reposting question from previous thread because I'm curious about WHFRPG
>>46896127
>>46896218
> Not them but what do you mean by FF goo? I've only played their SW games. Also are the systems themselves worth playing in their own right?
>tfw you're about to sell some old magic the gathering cards off for cash money.
What warhammer related purchases should I make?
>>46896567
Vlad should have stayed dead and buried.
>>46896685
>purchases
You'd need to give more info about what you want.
>>46896784
I'm caught between magnetic movement trays/ magnets and a 40k starter.
>mfw got three verdant catacombs 4-6 years ago for FNM prize rares.
(ain't got no good camera, so you'll have to imaginefy)
Chaos Warshrine guy
left hand is open hand, not the sword
head is swapped for helmet-less Stormvermin head
that's my Skaven Warlord
he was cool for some time, but my army is steadily going full-Skryre, and he needs some techie bits
how should I Skryre-ify him?
>>46896876
Break his head off, put it on a space marine.
You can also glue 40k bits to his back.
AoS is getting points costs
you know, SOMETHING THEY SHOULDN'T'VE GOTTEN RID OF IN THE FIRST PLACE!
oh, the stupidity of GW and its fans
>>46896890
*sigh*
I won't even comment on that
oh, wait, I just did...
*sigh*
>>46897205
Are points inversely proportional to the amount of money each model costs?
>>46897205
Only for tournaments, you can still play without points and use warscrolls too
>>46897205
Meh, It's an assload of usable points systems up until now.
My group will continue to ignore these ones as well.
>>46897205
All they really need to do is publish a PDF of WHFB 8th with some tweaks akin to 9th (or even publish 9th) and say something like "but in some realities, the old world still existed..."
>>46896539
hey guys, im running a game of WFRP set in endhammer (i posted here earlier) and i have a friend that after watching this, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf3Wj_d-aOE was wondering if there was anything like that he could play. after a few moments of thinking i realised he could be a bloodbowl player, and i was wondering if anyone had made stats for a bloodbowl player in WFRP 2E. If not how would you guys handle this. I was thinking he would use his constitution and armor as his weapon and fight by grappling and tackling. Also id just like to add that im totally on board with this, i gave the player the condition of making it fit the sitution and he did
>GW only announced points system
>WHFB-general already dead
kek
>>46898653
I can't wait to forge a narrative!
>tfw using stormfiends for the first time.
9D6 is ridiculous, I can't wait to bring these to a tournament.
>>46898389
That was horrible.
>>46898739
the video or the concept?
Really tempted to back this kickstarter just for the vampire model
>>46898852
The concept.
>>46899045
Why not man? im not gonna have him rolling around like fucking sonic the hedgehog, but correct me if im wrong, bloodbowl is still a canon sport within the WFB universe. The idea of a bretonian Bloodbowl Chav disillusionned with his noble life style traveling the world to beat the shit out of people and become a hero using his bloodbowl skills sounds pretty good. The problem comes in with implementing it, its a fun concept i just dont know how to do it.
>>46899101
There's no bloodbowl in whfb, bloodbowl is an alternate reality.
>>46899133
really? i mean i know that Bloodbowl took place in an alternate reality, but i thought it was still a sport people played. Like i know people dont fight wars with it, or over it, but i thought people still had "Freindly" games of it casually.
>>46899133
Ha ha oh wow
>>46899101
Don't listen to that boring guy, blood bowl is the shit
>>46899171
Ignore this nigro.
>>46899157
Yeah really, the idea of a guy who grapples in spiked full plate is bad ass but I can't imagine someone wanting to do it for an entire campaign.
Even masked luchador characters get old eventually.
>knights of the questing beasts
>troy horse siege chariots
>flying ships
posting what glorious bretonnia could have become
>>46898688
You can deny this, but now none literally will care about WHFB or 9th Age since AoS is become tournament game.
Would a Mierce Cnebba be good as a Terrorgheist?
>>46900014
Had you bought the Marienburg skyship and the Empire's meme god not been popular, that could have been a reality.
>>46900022
1) People will care about Fantasy lore, because unlike Age it has a clear setting.
2) Just because it has tourney rules doesn't mean it'll be popular. GW is notorious for terrible balance, and interest in all GW products is waning as it is.
>>46900112
>Had you bought the Marienburg skyship and the Empire's meme god not been popular, that could have been a reality.
What did he mean by this?
>>46900022
The damage is already done. Pretty much every tournament in the US at least has swapped to KoW. People are finding themselves incredibly happy with the product, and no-one I've spoken to has any intention of going to AoS even if they staple on point costs.
>>46900022
>>46900112
slav go home.
>>46900137
>it has a clear and dead setting.
fix
>GW is notorious for terrible balance, and interest in all GW products is waning as it is.
So? 40k is still playing in ETC so will be AoS, when 9th Age will be BTFOed.
>>46900197
it's like saying LotR is dead setting because it's no longer updated and it has its final end described (as prophecy, but still)
or sayin our world is dead because we already know how Ragnarok will unfold
>>46898739
9d6 shot mean 7 wound on average.
Then the space marines have a 3+ rerollable. Which mean you'll probably do 1 or 2 wound, so not even Killing a standard dude
>>46900197
How is a setting "dead" when nothing ever advancing is the norm?
The problem with Age lore is it is advancing without allowing the setting to catch up.
There's no maps of the Realms, characters are getting entire story arcs while other things go barely mentioned, and everything is seen through the eyes of one of two factions; Sigmarines or Archaon's.
>40k is still playing in ETC so will be AoS, when 9th Age will be BTFOed.
9th is not a product, dumbass. Its just a balance for 8e. It can't be BTFO because it doesn't have a profit margin because it isn't being sold.
>>46897205
With some luck they will backpedal the entire setting too
>Age point values
>"Take as much as you want from any faction, plus 25% Core. Does not have to be the same points as your opponent's list"
>>46900525
seems legit
comfy.
Are treemen any good in 8th
they seem decent enough except for the fact that i dont really see use for it in anything but a melee heavy list
>>46900525
I haven't really read the AoS rules as such. How the fuck does not having the same points as your opponent even work?
>>46900507
>some
Bit of an understatement.
Even IF GW was willing to admit they made a mistake they have spent so much money on making all these shitty AoS models they will keep selling them.
Also GW is too incompetent to be trusted with WHFB anymore, basically all new fluff after the early 2000's has been inferior.
>>46900022
It is far more likely that GW has lost those tournament bases forever. AOS is nothing like WFB and basically there is nothing new to bring them back into the fold.
Points AOS could create its own tourney scene, but it is unlikely to replace what exists now.
>>46900707
He is making a joke based on the fact the AoS rules do not even attempt balance and exist only to facilitate models sales.
That is why there are no limits and you can take whatever models you like from any army.
>>46900707
Just don't be a cock about list construction.
>>46900702
Sorta, all treemonic legion units blow in 8e because GW thought the wood elf book should revolve around elves.
>>46900702
yes. they are quite tanky, they have some shooting and even WE need an avil from time to time. as long as you keep them away from flaming attacks, they rock
oh, and Lore of Beasts buffs just make them obscene
>>46900718
meh, D&D 5 brought back not only 3ed-style rules, but also Planescape-like cosmology. Blizzards of Tabletop can admit mistakes and go back to better stuff, so there's hope.
>>46900702
they are quite stronk in 9th. 9th shines for Forest Spirits all round
>>46900755
Its a lot cheaper for them to do that though.
Not only is GW actively spiteful towards its former long term fans but it has hundreds of thousands or millions invested in moulds that nobody likes. Its going to want to try and make more money out of them.
>>46900492
>It can't be BTFO
It can ETC just replca 9th AGe by AoS and that's all.
>>46900707
AoS does not have point values and either relies on the players alternating on deploying units until they feel like the game could feel balanced or play a scenario where the forces are not supposed to be necessarily equals.
>>46900747
>Just don't be a cock about list construction.
The problem is you can't trash talk when you win if there's no army comp rules to fall back on.
Beating Banner Lions in 8e with Tomb Kings is cause for celebration. In Age, without a proper balance mechanism then everything comes down to "clearly player 1 just didn't put enough good models on the table".
>>46900800
Except Age is literally there to be something to play that isn't Age.
So it "wins" no matter what because many, many communities have no Age players.
>>46900833
Not to mention that what some people think is 'being a cock' others innocently and honestly think is entirely reasonable.
>>46900800
Seriously, by the number of posts one could think you'd have learnt how to communicate in written english.
>>46900900
Just look at AoS shills flipping out over points.
Some say "Oh teh noes, the return of a billion mandatory Slaves!" and others say "Ermagerd, not the armies packed full of large models and heroes!"
That alone tells you that people's version of what kind of list is a dick move to bring is entirely subjective and contrary to each other.
Having a proper points system with balanced counters, advantages, and disadvantages at least makes everything viable so the only list you have to worry about is your own and how it reacts to different situations.
But Age is a clusterfuck where any problem is solved by "bring more and/or bigger models" and when playing alternative scenarios (because the main battle is just a boring punchup in the middle) entirely fuck over entire lists.
>>46900993
Seems to me that any game where you have to rely too much on your opponent not being a cunt is open to massive abuse.
Feels like GW being so incompetent in redressing the awful balance issues in eg. 40k that they came up with a system so they put that onus on the players.
Would be great if every single player was an experienced and fair game designer.
>That guy in the Age thread saying playing with no point or balancing system is like being unplugged from the Matrix
Holy shit, Age really is the MLP of /tg/.
>>46901646
Nobody is forcing them to play with points among friends or at a wargaming club but its god damn vital for pickup games and new players. These morons act like they are FORCED to never take fun or fluffy lists.
>its like Pandoras box
>pretending competition is bad
>muh core tax, how dare I have to play an actual force instead of a gang of super dudes
>muh morpheus pictures
>points mean only equal pitched battles all the time
It would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.
I remember seeign a link to a gallery with a bunch of awesome WHFB concept arts here a few months back. Anyone still got it?
>>46902635
The site is down
fortunately I saved all of them expecting this would happen
do you need all of them or only the ones for a specific faction?
>>46902986
I need the crazy Empire ones. i remember there was a bunch of awesome war machines, or something
>>46903037
It may take a while, but I will post a link here.
>>46903323
cool, thanks!
>>46903562
>>46903323
>>46903037
since I'm at it I'm uploading all the 300+ images
first 150 here http://imgur.com/a/k3bQl
>Few hours into GW announcing point system for Aos and AoS outselling WHFB and on par with 40K
>WHFB general already dead
Kek
>>46903919
great, thanks!
>>46903982
Where's the data to support this?
Because according to their stocks, there IS no sales increase on anything.
>>46903919
part 2 http://imgur.com/a/U7gBf
>>46904704
last part http://imgur.com/a/Lk3H2
>>46900014
>Units other than Knights or peasants
>big centerpiece models
>unicorn headed giant chariot/battering ram
>best air force in the old world
This could have been glorious
>>46903919
>>46904704
>all those fabulous Wizards for all colleges
>all the incredibly badass named characters
>insane ornate machines
>four riders of the apocalypse
god, this would've been soooo glorious... where did it all go wrong?
>>46905247
Bretonnia is coming to AoS tho, so just wait a year.
100% updated plastic kits.
>>46904704
oh, so Bloodbound were designed back then, even... but they weren't so overdesigned though
>>46905402
yeah, heard that one. before End Times, I did. guess what?
jeez, how do I gloo metal minis? my superglue gel won't hold them
>>46904278
omfg faggot, for the 7415215741 times stock are not related to sales.
go check what a second offering is and you'll understand why the PSR went down faggot.
>>46905435
you heard before end times that Bretonnia will come as a full airborne force for AoS? wow nice one.
that's literally fresh from today. Hasting - SadPanda etc
>>46905493
ah, oh, I take that back then. praise the lady ok
>>46905382
They saw the concepts for the Sigmarines and said "THAT, make an entire game for that!"
They also figured no points and no restrictions means people would want a sea of everything.
'Tis time for this rift betwixt our communities too heal, with the advent of points 'tis time too come home and nestle in the lightning wreathed bosom of Sigmar.
Will you not take our hand in friendship /WHFBG/? Will you not stand with us as brothers and free men?
>>46905571
no.
>>46905470
So you're throwing out conjecture and claiming its data then.
How cute.
>>46905402
And they will almost certainly ruin them just like everything else, so what?
>>46905571
I don't see any way to.
Two different games, no possibility for lore overlap, and a LOT of bitterness combined with extremely autistic fucks on both sides.
The only thing we share is models, but every two months that connection is diminished. Before long it'll just be the Daemons, making Age as much Fantasy as both are to 40k.
>>46905605
They'll be Bretmarines.
>>46905571
No. Your game is unclean, abomination of steel and death, and must be purged
>>46905571
what do you mean by that?
So, /whfb/ what are you currently working on?
I don't get why they don't just put the 8e rulebook up for free download, say that Fantasy and Age both exist as separate universes, and give a flimsy fluff explanation for Sigmarines and Orkmarines.
They could only gain money from it, and having a fanbase at war with itself is TERRIBLE for business.
>>46905751
My untouched IoB Skaven. For a tabletop Vermintide game, which we don't have rules for yet.
Anyone have some scans of the new units in End Times: Nagash? The only pdf floating around is screencaptures off of a tablet version, and obviously the mouse-over links don't work. Not the whole book, just some quick snaps at the special rules.
Would be much obliged!
>>46905592
>>46905640
>>46905664
>>46905748
You wound me, but I am eternal and will return.
Remember that the Gates of Azyr are always open to you, so do not lose hope.
>>46905751
>>46905800
heh, what a coinsidence, I'm working on Vermintide minis too! making packmaster with things-catcher and a couple of single-model ratling gunners
>>46905571
People are not ready, brother from another dream, we could have been 2 universes walking as one, but circumstances set us in opposition: we will keep ours in denial of the executioner's axe and yours will be sewn from the spoils of ours; many of you will see us as primitive and close minded, many of us will see you as mindless and uncritical, both will see the other as malevolent and in the end it was but the last will of a madmen that dictated our inimicy.
My feet will never move, but if we can't be one, we can try to be close, my hand will be oustretched
>>46906121
holy shit fucking off yourself you autist
>>46906121
Yeah, we don't have to be cunts to each other.
We both hate the shitposters, Agefags aren't happy about models getting chopped, and we're all critical of GW's terrible decisions.
We don't have one General, but its not like we give the 40kfags shit for playing a game we don't like.
>>46905751
assembling some eternal guard
kinda annoying to put on bases for some reason
at least they're easier to rank up than fuckin glade guard
>>46905640
>no possibility for lore overlap
They are different eras in the same universe. They share the same lore.
>>46905782
>Games Workshop
>good business practices
dude lmao
>>46906259
Getting better every week, praise be to the new CEO. Shame he didn't come soon enough to save Fantasy.
>>46905927
"Fuck I love hammers" - the picture
>>46905455
pin them or take your blade and score both sides it'll make your life much better
>>46905455
idk, never had any trouble gluing metal minis together myself, try pinning them if they're large parts i guess? and green stuff.
>>46906245
Not really.
99% of the first setting isn't in the second, the survivors are all drastically changed with the exception of the Mortarchs.
What third party folks make Fantasy bases?
Sigmar-possessed Karl-Franz.
http://lawhammer.blogspot.com/2012/09/karl-franz-conversion-on-foot.html
>>46907523
nice
Why could they not remove 40k instead?!
>>46908122
because it provides them comparatively way more income
>>46908175
>because it provides them comparatively way more income
I know but... Whatever I guess.
>>46908175
30k sells more thsn 40k, why not squat that one.
>>46908175
40k outsells Age, why did they replace the Space Marine outfront with an unknown quantity while also making budget cuts?
>>46908277
>why did they replace the Space Marine outfront with an unknown quantity
To show how much faith they have in the product.
>>46908122
>Why could they not remove 40k instead?!
>>46908175
>because it provides them comparatively way more income
Point being, I really miss fantasy. Fuck Space Marines.
>>46900702
Treemen are the only tree-thing that got better in 8th
>>46905887
https://mega.nz/#!WEhFRJAR!M2YqPyzcPfIdPXRG4UIpaohbemVZISPcnhOsJ_IJELg
>>46908277
They put that stupid statue there slav before AoS was even on the market.
>>46909032
How does that disprove how stupid a point it is?
Its like Skywalker Ranch replacing their bronze Yoda with some new property. Or Disney replacing the statue of Walt and Mickey with a statue of Lasseter and a character from Coco.
1) There's no reason to do it.
2) You are shitting on your own history.
3) What are you gaining?
>>46906322
>Getting better every week
>shitty models
>broken game system
>useless FAQ
>>46903982
>AoS sales increase
>WHOA, All these WFB kits are selling like hot-cakes!
>Err, I mean AOS kits!
>totally not WFB """limited edition"""" kits at all!
>people actually believe GW's bull
Luitpold von Holswig Schliestein grimaced at the squat, brick building at the end of the cobbled road. It sat like a hunchback at the top of the hill; mishapen and looming over the neighborhood of poorly-built shacks and tenements. What had once been a place of community gatherings and drunken merriment was now a filthy, broken wreck. A tusked, red face was crudely daubed on the door and many of the windows were shattered. Even yards away, the Prince of Reikland and Averland could hear the raucous voices inside.
"Are you... sure that you don't want us to just burn the place down?" Lieutenant Gustav asked. He leaned over in his saddle to get the ear of the Emperor-to-be.
Luitpold pinched the bridge of his nose and wondered if his father had ever had to treat with Orcs.
>>46912465
They hadn't yet made it into charging distance when the noise from the tavern died down into angry questioning. Windows were re-broken and ugly, loaded crossbows began pointing out of the tavern's cracked walls until it looked like a pincushion.
"OI! 'OO GOES DERE?! Don't you come no closer 'less you got more mead. We's been waitin' for three, stinkin' days!"
The Lieutenant bristled but Luitpold spoke before his subordinate could insult their unwanted guests. "Luitpold von Holswig Schliestein. I've come to speak with your chief."
Murmuring. Angry cursing. More confusion. Finally. "OI! RUGLUD! HUMIE PRINCE WANTS YOU, BRUV."
"DA FUCK YOU WANT, HUMIE PRINCE?!"
Ruglud, the Armored Orc, did have a way with words. The door to the tavern kicked outward and out stomped a massive, green figure, covered in a makeshift suit of armor made from old Tilean and Imperial scraps... though there appeared to be a few Dwarfish bits here and there. The orc jabbed a fat choppa into the ground and hefted his stolen crossbow on one shoulder... then he hawked a loogie in front of the Prince of Reikland.
>>46912465
>>46912555
Go back to some fanfiction forum.
>>46911527
The models are shit and getting shittier with even worse prices (90 AMERIBUCKS FOR THREE MAN-SIZED FIGURES), but they're resurrecting the Specialist Games, pimping out the IP for some really good video games, and actually have a small degree of community interface now.
Its getting better, just FAR too late for us. The 40kfags will benefit from it, and the small number of genuine Agefags will too.
Hey, if we're lucky Blood Bowl will come back strong and they'll bring back Mordheim. Maybe even Man O' War.
>>46912465
>>46912555
Keep going.
>>46912569
Suck a cock, you pansy ass bastard son of C-3PO.
>>46912615
>but they're resurrecting the Specialist Games,
Bitch, please, should I remind you why SG died?
>Its getting better
Nice try redshirt.
>Hey, if we're lucky
1) If YOU will lucky.
2)none cares about AoS here, so fuck off.
How do I Skaven?
I have an Island of Blood set, and my community plays 9th Age.
Should I get the Start Collecting Pestilens? I kind of prefer the super science to the Horned Rat and plaguing or the warriors.
>>46912681
>Should I get the Start Collecting Pestilens?
Nah it's useless, just buy more monster and return to your general.
>>46912669
>Bitch, please, should I remind you why SG died?
Because GW panicked about the fact they printed a metric fuckload of Gorkamorka sets in Spanish they couldn't sell by mistake?
>Nice try redshirt.
I said better, not good. They're still in the absolute shit PR range.
Also, redshirts wouldn't call you a badger-fucking cunt still suckling his mother's teat when not taking it up the ass for pocket money to throw at your plastic crack addiction. A redshirt also wouldn't say you're still at least much better to deal with than Games Workshop.
>1) If YOU will lucky. 2)none cares about AoS here, so fuck off.
Hey, a lot of us want to play Blood Bowl on the tabletop with better looking minis than the third parties have available. Have you found a good proxy for Skaven Gridiron players? Because I fucking haven't.
Also, who the fuck brought up Age? Because I mentioned Agefags, not the game.
>>46912755
I'm talking about Fantasy you fucking faggot, not Age. Skaven are not new.
>>46912681
I would because it comes with the bits to make a screaming bell and a warp lightning cannon off of the furnace and catapult kits respectively the cannon you're going to want at least 2 anyway, the 20 plague monks are a bit too small for a unit but if you pick up another box of 20 for cheap you'll have more than enough also they're fun with a plague banner.
>>46912777
>Because GW panicked about the fact they printed a metric fuckload of Gorkamorka sets in Spanish they couldn't sell by mistake?
Nope, because SG was shit worthless for everyone except WHfans.
>I said better, not good.
Primitive =l= better.
>Hey, a lot of us want to play
Yeah, a lot of you, but you can discuss it in your general, just like everyone who loves to suck GW dick.
>>46912823
>Nope, because SG was shit worthless for everyone except WHfans.
Specialist Games was Fantasy AND 40k. Newfag.
>Primitive =l= better.
Better is a comparison. It means improvement.
You can improve from shit and still be shit, just slightly less shit
>Yeah, a lot of you, but you can discuss it in your general, just like everyone who loves to suck GW dick.
Pic related
>>46912806
Wait, so I need to get two Start Collecting sets? Are Plague Monks something I need to have to run Moulder/Skryre?
I can see the 1d4chan Skaven tactics, but the tactics for Skaven in Age is still blank.
I also have an Abomination, sort of, but no base for it. Its a Mierce Miniatures two-headed rat thing.
>>46912884
>Specialist Games was Fantasy AND 40k
Yes, and all of them (probably except BFG) was bad, Mordheim and Necromunda was just light modification of FB and 40k systmes and that's why both of them was bad as skirmish games.
>>46912884
>You can improve from shit and still be shit, just slightly less shit
>GW shill talks about 50 shades of shit
Well, why I am not surprised?
>Pic related
>hurr if it's Warhasmmer thread everyone should suck GW dick
Again, go back to your general.
>>46912796
>I'm talking about Fantasy you fucking faggot
>asking about AoS models
L.o.L.
>>46912971
Those are Fantasy models, dumbass. Age didn't release any Skaven.
>>46913005
>I am so love muh GW
Into AoS general it goes.
>>46905782
Hell, they could probably just email the 9th age people and ask for the following
- Rules for Sigmarines, Orcmarines, and Mirrordwarves
in exchange for making 9th age's rules an official project. I'm sure that the 9th devs would jump at that.
>>46912948
How is that two headed guy? I've been eyeballing him for a while could you post a pic next to something? I haven't had a chance to play 9th since my playgroup is all about Offical fantasy stuff but monks have been pretty solid and with a plague banner it's pretty hard to beat that volume of attacks rerolling to hit and to wound, but no you can do just fine with Clan rats, Slaves, and Stormvermin. To tell you the truth if you could afford it I would get 2 since you'd get 40 monks which is more than you need a furnace and a bell, 2 plague priests and a spare grayseer, and 2 cannons which with the IoB box is an amazing start especially since you have the Abom already
>>46905782
>keep WHFB alive
>gain money from it
>>46913404
He's really good. Almost no mold lines, they did have very thick chunks on the bottoms of the feet and back of the two heads that I had to saw off and file down. But the casting was perfect. I got mine secondhand, but only one fingernail was broken off meaning he was probably undamaged when new. Glued it back on no problem.
The problem is the preview image shows him with his feet and one knuckle on the ground flat, but when you assemble him the knuckle is in the air when his feet are on the ground. Pic related shows that (not my image). You have to put something between base and knuckle as a result, but that's not a big deal. Like a rock or something.
He goes together really well, gaps aren't too wide and they're at the flat part so they're easy to greenstuff.
I left the tusks off the sides of the face on mine, they kind of distract from the monster-y look that I like.
I'm keeping his dick and balls on, some people sand them off. Makes him looks more plausible in a strange sort of way though, like they pumped him full of mutagenic shit to make him grow instead of just sewing smaller Skaven together like the Rat Ogres look. Like Ratzilla and Frankenrats.
Honestly, I'd recommend him 10/10.
Thanks for the advice. I'll have to look over the Age Skaven myself then, maybe I'll throw in some evaluation on it when I get some playtesting in. I obviously can't compare it to 8th very well for people transitioning but I'll do my best to give my thoughts.
>>46913332
That'd be cool.
Are they keeping their April Fool's army? Because I liked the idea of it.
>>46913624
![7ba907c10e[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ax5PLAe.jpg "7ba907c10e[1].jpg")
Hold the fuck up there's a "Hobbit" tabletop game and one of the armies is Isengard? Why haven't I ever heard about this?
>>46913770
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Games_Workshop#Ringhammer
There's been a tabletop game for Tolkien for quite some time. Its GW's only balanced work. They added the Hobbit to it.
>>46913624
By Age, I meant 9th Age. Not Age of Sigmar.
Wasn't thinking when I typed that, I'm sorry. Have this.
>>46913624
Anytime, and that looks ace I'll have to pick one up as my 2nd HPA. Anyone know anything about Black Scorpion minis? I'm thinking about picking up a couple of these guys to use as gutter runners
>>46913900
No, but I found a review of their cowboy minis.
http://www.mywargame.com/2013/02/10/review-black-scorpion-miniatures-tombstone-2/
What goes for one product should probably describe the other as well.
>>46913770
Who decided on that stupid grate that's so vulnerable to undermining the wall?
>>46914150
I guess the same people who had lived most of their lives in unwalled towns in fields or in their "major" city that had a single wooden palisade. I think it's a miracle Rohan had a castle with a stone wall at all.Saruman was fucking retarded. Not sure why he was in a hurry. Gondor was getting fucked up by Mordor, and Rohan didn't have the military strength to take fortified positions it seems. Instead he sends his entire army to assault a heavily fortified position instead of just taking and holding land, burning farms, and otherwise growing his forces.
>>46912615
>90 bucks
>not buying propainted armies on eBay
>>46900173
Probably talking about FW retired the Marienburg Landship because it wasn't selling.
>>46914889
I thought it was retired because they damaged the mold and didn't want to bother fixing it.
>>46914936
Ah, you're right. The master model apparently needed some repairs done and would require quite a bit of time to achieve and the borrowing of one or more sculptors from more pressing projects. The original sculptor apparently no longer worked for FW at that point.
I probably got mixed up because they then go on to say that some models simply are removed because as they produce new stuff they need room and so their solution is to cull what isn't really selling.
>>46915227
Yeah, I think the Tau Orca was a model where they decided was taking up too much room and wasn't selling so they got rid of it all together.
>>46913900
You still here?
Mierce has a Kickstarter going currently, you can buy a lot of their old monsters at a discount through it. Flint-fang included.
>>46916174
I kind of want to get this, because a giant moving bronze statue in Fantasy would be really neat, but what factions would use it?
It kind of looks like Myrmidia I guess. So...Empire and Marienburg? Anyone else this would work for?
Do the Elves have any warrior goddesses this would work for?
>>46916275
if you're up for modding it a roman flavored tombkings would be pretty sweet could go Ben Hur with the chariots
>>46916174
good looking out thanks man
>>46916174
So it sounds like after the kickstarter goes through they give you store credit...i'm not sure if i like that
>>46914150
same people who never saw explosives before that one battle? It's a massive stone fortress standing on solid rock. you can't undermine it without explosives, especially with defenders raining stones and arrows on you from above
before Saruman invented his "creeping fire", this literally wasn't a weakness
>>46916422
I'd check to see their past like three or four Kickstarters, see if anyone had any issues.
>>46916275
That'd be a pretty sick fucking Giant for a Dogs of War army. Guess I'm buying it.
How long 'till that Mierce kickstarter ends? Can't go to Kickstarter from work.
>>46913642
I hope it comes back. I'd totally dig a fishmen army. I love fishmen, especially after Darkest Dungeon.
>>46916174
Fuck Mierce, goddamn scumbags.
Nice models, though.
Fuck em.
>>46917239
Are they a bad company? I'm pretty close to giving them my money
>>46917322
They fucked a lot of people over when their last company went bankrupt. Maelstrom Games.
About the models, I've seen some scale issues. That obviously doesnt concern the monsters, though.
>mfw you'll niggas can't wait to buy some AoS models, but the sweatyneckbeard you are know they'll be rejected by their toxic peers by doing so
>mfw mere hours after point system of AoS gw's around the world are emptied from their stocks by WHFB loving crowd.
>mfw WHFB general and 9th Age are dead since the AoS point system was announced
>>46917852
*this_is_finishing_pole.jpg
>>46917852
>Paul Jarzecki
>>46917852
>dat picture
>dat mmo design
>>46917852
Slav, you've said over and over, at least three times in this thread, that the thread is dead.
First of all, you should realise that nobody cares about you. You are just sad.
Second, the WHFB generals go faster than AoS ones and, although far from the 40k generals, they are among the most active threads in tg.
Now go beg some food to your local oligarch. And English lessons while you're at it.
>>46918479
Not him.
Firstly, AoS threads, this week at least, went faster than WHFB threads.
Secondly, Slav is a troll who doesn't play or like either WHFB or AoS. You know how he posts and you have the archives. Check it for yourself.
Thirdly, stop replying to shitposters and trolls.
>>46918479
>First of all, you should realise that nobody cares about you
Yeah and also nobody cares about WHFB, look at your threads, you discussing fanfics, homemaded shit, fandexes, kickstarters, but not the game because you're minority, while most of WHFB players prefer AoS.
>>46918520
>fluff, homebrews, minis
yes, that's all parts of WHFB. WHFB is not limited to GW-made stuff.
>>46918513
>Thirdly, stop replying to shitposters and trolls.
He cannot because without trolls your threads will disappear.
>>46918554
>WHFB is not limited to GW-made stuff.
It's GW property, so yes it's limited by GW stuff, if you want to discuss 9th age or fanfics make your own thread without "Warhammer" in the OP-post.
>>46918520
>while most of WHFB players prefer AoS.
>>46918513
>Firstly, AoS threads, this week at least, went faster than WHFB threads.
Looking at those threads, thank god we only have the slav and not 80% shitposters like they do. I much prefer slower threads with more content.
>>46918670
>271 voters
Whatever you say whineseer, but I am talking about PLAYERS, not posters in internet.
>>46918691
Since you are a 'poster on the internet' I'll take your advice and disregard your opinion entirely.
>>46918691
I don't know what you're talking about, both games are alive and well in the UK. If anything AoS is losing some steam with a few players in the community.
But then you're probably going to start arguing that 9th Age isn't technically WHFB and therefore the constant huge tournaments, active gaming groups; and events don't count.
>>46918691
Post something supporting that then
>posters are not players
>>46918745
>both games are alive
>only 16 came to ETC with WHFB
Kek
>>46918761
>>both games are alive
>>only 16 came to ETC with WHFB
>Kek
You mean over 300, while being capped at 8 per country:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CEtdwddLLrlF29C5HV8_ICWqSu8--mlt2CY_TA0t-TE/pub#h.eqwz7y3xavqz
The fuck are you on slav?
>>46918794
Also note that the largest, GW-endorsed AoS tournament with unlimited registration had the third of this amount, while ETC could be twice this size if the logistics would allow it.
>>46918824
>if
Whatever you say shitposter.
>>46918856
Yeah, I'm the shitposter continously talking about some imaginary 16-people ETC when people have repeatedly refuted me.
Fuck off, slav.
>>46918905
>Yeah, I'm the shitposter
>bitching about GW in GW's game general
Yes, you are shitposter.
>>46903919
>ariel concept art
>2004
>tfw we could have gotten ariel back in 9th edition
>tfw she could have gotten a new mini
>tfw her art instead got used for spellweavers
>>46905571
>free men
>GW
Nah, I'll rather join to Warcraft community.
Has anyone got some guidelines for board size in relation to points?
I'd like to fast-track standardising my games and create modular settings for them, but think that there are a number of factors that come into play when it comes to this.
4' x 6' is the standard, and that's good for 2000 points with d6+4 large terrain pieces, but with less points the game favors high movement and high range too much without a lot more terrain that blocks line of sight, and with more points you've got very limited maneuverability unless you decrease the number or size of the terrain features. It just seems like it's either too luck based or rock-paper-scissors. I'd like to play Combat Patrols and 4000 points or have 3 vs 3 with 1500 points each.
Any ideas or guides for how to include terrain pieces in the army points? Wood Elves have an item, Acorn of the Ages, for 100 points that grants one type of d3 woods anywhere on the board, arguably providing Scouts and Waywatchers with a huge bonus, restricting an enemy unit by a great deal or allowing a caster with a 40 point magic item or Drycha to create devastating rear/flank threats. Do other armies have similar terrain altering abilities or items?
>>46905455
Is your superglue old or has had too much air exposure?
Those two factors are a constant problem for me.
But yeah, pinning and scoring are key.
>>46919082
4x4 for smaller games i suppose?
i think the acorn is d3+1 woods and one army special rule lets them bring one forest already?
i dont think other armies have terrain creating things outside of the brb item that lets you build a watchtower
>>46919082
>Do other armies have similar terrain altering abilities or items?
Wood elves are the only ones, in older editions the woods came free and automatically when deploying the elves too
Maybe the other army was daemons but I cannot recall exactly how this was a thing
Pricing buildings is a bit tough, but you could use fozzrik's folding castle as basis for that
For tables I prefer to use 2x2 up to 1000pts, 4x4 up to 1850 and 4x6 up to 3000/4000 (depends on how many points are spent on big stuff rather than numerous troops)
>>46900702
They are a mediocre lord level unit in your Rares. They get popped off easily enough with all manner of ranged attacks if they have to march all the way into the fray from your deployment. Can be useful as a dispensable target, they're like cannonfire magnets, but I think they are only really good at 2250+ points with Drycha summoning them in.
>>46919172
>Wood elves are the only ones, in older editions the woods came free and automatically when deploying the elves too
They still get a free wood, the acorn only gives more above that.
>Wood Elves have an item, Acorn of the Ages, for 100 points that grants one type of d3 woods anywhere on the board, arguably providing Scouts and Waywatchers with a huge bonus, restricting an enemy unit by a great deal or allowing a caster with a 40 point magic item or Drycha to create devastating rear/flank threats.
That's true, but then your lv4 has no ward saves (or even worse, you have a naked combat lord), and you'll have 2 less ranks of glade guards.
>Any ideas or guides for how to include terrain pieces in the army points?
You can go and just give terrains a point cost 40k fortifications-style. Whether or not these costs will be deducted from the army's points or are part of a distinct 'terrain pool' is just a matter of convention, I can see both working out fine.
>>46918745
>WHFB and therefore the constant huge tournaments
>constant huge tournament
keksimus maximum
>>46918479
> not seeing the truth that since the point announcement the WHFB community is shaking in awe and buying thousands of $ worth of kits all around the world.
>pic related, AoS haters in a nutshell
>>46919159
>>46919172
>>46919260
Yeah, Fozzrick's. Good call. The Acorn is not without its cost. The entire magic item allowance is a big deal, especially considering the base cost of the Lord/Lord level caster. And, in addition to the free forest on your side of the table during deployment, the random terrain table puts a forest on a roll of 7 with 2d6...
>>46919264
>>46919301
shouldn't you be in class or something
this bait is pathetic
if i buy one of the magic resistance talismans for a character, does the bonus move over to any unit they join?
how about the ward save ones?
>>46919442
>if i buy one of the magic resistance talismans for a character, does the bonus move over to any unit they join?
Yep. That's why the Witch Hunter is money for 55 pts.
>how about the ward save ones?
Nope.
>>46919467
Do you have an opinion about the Unicorn mount granting Magic Resistance (3) for 60 points?
>>46919554
Correction: Magic Resistance (2).
>>46919554
Isn't that only MR2?
Anyways, imo your lv4 should have a ward in most cases (the cost of the Unicorn is simply too high in case of a hero level caster), or in case of taking the Acorn should probably be with a unit of sisters or tucked away with a small bunker of glade guards.
In either case, the MR doesn't worth losing LoS. I'd say strictly a fluff choice.
![demigryphs[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/X55xj0b.jpg "demigryphs[1].jpg")
Am I right to understand that Monstrous Cavalry always use the toughness of the rider?
>>46913844
If by balanced you mean Moria shitting on everyone, sure. It did combine a lot of great things about 40k and fantasy at the time, however.
>>46919653
> LoS.
Losing Fast Cav (when req a steed)?
>>46919691
Unless there is an errata or a rule in a separate section of the book: Explicitly Yes. (pg 83, 82 BRB)
>>46919691
If you go by the rulebook, yes, but it got corrected a bit after the arrival of the demigryphs in a FAQ: When riding you use the higher values for wounds and toughness.
>>46919777
Not sure what your question is.
LoS: Look Out Sir
>>46919777
Ah. the errata DOES add mount's toughness to the ways in which monstrous cavalry is different from normal. My chickens have been buffed
>>46919814
Sorry, I got confused with "Look Out Sir" and "Line of Sight". I don't know how I connected Fast Cav in there. Yeah, I'd really like to use Unicorns, but I don't see how the handicap is worth to ascetics.
Awesome. I really need to print out all the errata. They've finished with 8th, right? There wont be any more E&As? for 8th
>>46919848
Giant Eagles have T4 and W3... There we go. Now, if I can just find definitive answers to joining units.
>>46919691
>mfw cold one knights are t4 in 9th age now
The look on my oponents face when I brought them against his slaanesh daemon faggotry last week was priceless.
>"..4+ to wound.."
>"5s"
>"w.wa?"
>>46919920
The answer is no unfortunately. Characters can't join flying or chariot units.
>>46919947
Bah. I was hoping that a Flier (Giant Eagle) could join a unit of Fliers (War Hawks). Getting a Giant Eagle to join an infantry unit being legal is very silly but I can't see anything that rules against it.
>>46919981
Stuff about that is more GW forgetting those cases exist than anyting else
IIrc there was a similar problem with pegasi and terradons; if I were you I'd quickly houserule it into the game with your enemy before starting.
It doesn't even seem like giving a big advantage after all so I doubt anyone will have something to say.
>>46920135
True. I like as few houserules as possible, but am certainly open to common sense ones.
To be fair to GW, it's a pretty huge game, even if it seems like a fairly obvious situation. But it does have a few more to it than it first appears. Fliers are Skirmishers so they get the -1 to hit, free reform, fire on the march, etc, etc. I'll have to look up Pegasi and Terradons.
>>46906501
>>46919132
okay, scoring it is thensince it's the only way i can conceivably score in the nearest future
>>46919934
No, just no faggot. Maybe just stop cheating next time ? They are cavalry and not MONSTROUS cavalry, both in 9th age and 8th.
>>46919981
it isn't legal, IIRC. fliers, mosnters and chariots can't join units
>>46920317
so? all cavalry use highest T in 9th
>mfw Glade Lord on Great Stag in T5 now
>>46914150
Before explosives, at best the enemy would be able to tear out the grate, and even then that wasn't much of an opening since it was only large enough for maybe one or two men at a time, so it could be easily held.
>>46920341
I don't have the Errata or FAQs, so there is almost certainly something in there, but Characters can join units of In, B, Cav, MI, MB or MC. Cannot join a unit of Monsters, Fliers, Chariots, Swarms or Warmachines. Characters that are monsters, are on monsters, or in chariots cannot join units. Previously, the BRB made the distinction that Monstrous Beasts were not Monsters. So while a flying character, or a character on a monstrous beast that can fly, can join a unit, they can't join other characters on fliers (making a unit of characters) nor can mounted characters join Skirmishers...
I could have something wrong, I've read over the applicable sections in the BRB pretty throughly but don't have the FAQs on hand. This is bloody convoluted.
What is in the WHFB equivalents of Australia and North America? I think that Australia is full of beast men and NA is full of elves but I'm not sure about this. I have the rest of the world figured out but these two places I'm not so sure on
>>46920817
North America is full of Dark Elves. I'm not sure Australia exists...
>>46920817
Naggaroth and america are the dark elves, malakeiths sundering is pretty much the civil war from crazy old british perspective.
Lizardmen are south america.
Australia is a hard one to place.
>>46920817
Elves as in Dark, High and Wood? I would have gone with Empire myself. I'd say Aust is ... There isn't really a Chilled Out faction in WHFB. Maybe Tomb kings. Or OK. Probably OK.
>>46920817
Wait, are we applying a WHFB allusion to the Real World or what WHFB took from the real world as influences?
>>46909032
Much appreciated, anon.
>>46920916
The Warhammer World looks a lot like the real world, so you could call Cathay China and Norsca Norway.
>>46920916
Yeah I was kind of vague. Sorry. I was talking about WHFB races in the real world's geography's locations. What the fuck is there?
>>46909135
It's still there it's just been moved
>>46920979
Yep, and you could say that those factions take influences from those countries. But you could also say that the Columbia population is most similar to Skaven or Dark Elves, and High Elves, with the Wood Elves/Lizardmen being wiped out. People from the USA would mostly be OK and O&G, but it's such a diverse place you'd probably find people that are similar to every race in WHFB.
>AoS doesn't sell.
>Megaboss already out of stock.
All whfb faggot dropping thousands on AoS since the point announcement is hilarious
>>46921107
More like 40k players buying Orks. Check out the 40k ork fansites, they are all over them.
>>46912951
Learn proper grammar you piece of shit or go back to vk.com and jerk off to gay videos about Putin being buttfucked
>>46921158
If 40K player are buying AoS miniatures, then AoS miniature still sell.
Not only AoS miniature are so good they outsell WHFB, now they cannibalize even 40k Sales.
That's like saying : Avatars of war Witches don't sell since they are used in 9th Age.
>>46921102
I'd say that's only true for the old world and the south america part of the new world. North America is nothing like it actually was, because the Dark Elves came long before anything else could rise up.
Don't feed the slav buddies.
>>46921174
There was some fluff about primitive humans sometimes and other times they became primitive orcs and goblins
>>46921203
>dat buttblasted WHFB fanboy
Hey, look here-> >>46921107
>>46921360
I wouldn't be surprised if the Dark Elves enslaved them either way. GW has long lost the boner it had for the Native Americans.
>>46916972
There's four so far.
Two of Talos, one Athena, and a bulky one.
>>46917193
14 days.
>>46917322
>>46917452
Incorrect.
Maelstrom was originally a shitty company, the guys that ran it into the ground sold off all the assets.
The Mierce of today is unrelated to the Maelstrom of yesterday except having all the sculpts.
>>46918991
Now you know you can use Spellweavers as Ariel though.
>>46919132
>>46920313
WRONG.
You glue metal using a sheet of tissue paper, or paper towels if you split the layers. Something so thin you can oartially see through it.
Glue the metal on one side, apply that paper, glue the other side. Becomes like cement.
>>46919981
In 9th Age, anything can join a unit of anything. Play that if you have a chance, much better system.
>>46920817
WFB Australia was only ever mentioned in passing, and is pretty much undefined except "Thar be monsters".
>>46921050
To under the stairs, behind an Age display.
Report every one of the AoS shill Slav's posts.
Shitposting and off-topic discussion are against the global rules, he will get a ban.
>>46921803
will that work will gel glue though? i thought it required liquid one
>>46921865
Worth a shot, if you have any metal sprue parts or shards you clipped off try it on those first.
>>46921864
>AoS shill
AoS doesn't need a shills to sells better than Fantasy (>>46921107 ), unlike Mantic or some fanmaded shit.
>>46921803
>Incorrect.
>Maelstrom was originally a shitty company, the guys that ran it into the ground sold off all the assets.
>The Mierce of today is unrelated to the Maelstrom of yesterday except having all the sculpts.
I heard the CEO is the same guy, among others.
