So, what's the deal with this thing?
Whas that -1/-1 really necessary? Did they really fucking see it THAT overpowered?
>we need some cards that make clash look like a great mechanic
>don't worry, the team will come up with something
This one is fun as hell too
My fav card from the Theros block
>>46886860
I think the idea for this one is that the high CMC enables you to win Clashes if you were drafting Clash.
>>46889399
Just make it a 4/4 that can block. It would have been at least somewhat playable then.
Pic related always amazed me with how much they overvalued soulshift.
>>46889695
It's not that they overvalued it, but rather that the mechanic is better the more expensive the card it sits on is, and that Kamigawa was made intentionally weak to combat the brokeness of Mirrodin and bring Standard back to a managable level.
>>46890114
>Iwazumas jitte
>>46890217
Everybody knows about the crazy allstar rares (and a few gems at uncommon like ghostly prison / sensei top) from the block, but the vast, vast majority of the set was horrible garbage.
>>46886936
Picking time spiral cards is cheating.
>>46886811
The point was to be the first -1/-1 creature. Then they went 'what can we do with a -1/-1 creature?'
>>46889695
Since this was pre-M10, you could block with this thing to trade with an X/3, sac it to kill something else, then get a free raise dead. Three-for-Ones are never totally unplayable.
>>46889695
they could of told the artist to drawn something besides a giant zit with other zits on top of it.
this fucking card
>>46894231
Has anyone built a deck around this?
>>46895189
Nope. too new of a card for any deck to have been built around it.
>>46894231
OP in prismatic, but shit everywhere else
>Prismatic: minimum 250 cards, must have at least 20 cards of each colour
>>46894231
>>46895189
There's a pretty fun Legacy deck built around it.
>>46894231
>Battle of Wits
>Me and mates played it when Standard legal
>Do okay with it
>Laugh everytime we attempt to shuffle
Priceless
>>46895244
you'd have to have at least 250 to have any kind of chance of drawing this wincon right?
>>46894231
this card is the reason wizards changed tournament shuffling rules from '5 minutes maximum', to 'a reasonable ammount of time'
>>46893715
I chuckled
At least it's an instant?
>>46895482
hard counter to gitgud toad, op pls nerf
>>46895482
>rare
Can you imagine anything more disappointing than pulling Mudhole from a booster?
Players can't play lands.
Lands can't enter the battlefield.
At the beginning of each upkeep, any player may sacrifice two lands or have Worms of the Earth deal 5 damage to him or her. If a player does either, destroy Worms of the Earth.
>>46895641
neat, gitgud stax time
>>46895697
Soooo your plan is to suicide your own lands to nothing just so your opponents can't play their own lands?
>>46895641
Nice, a black Lava Axe
>>46896604
not that anon, but i'd assume the plan would be to play that on turn 5, hopefully your opponent is still on four mana or less, and this means you stalemate with them you on 5 mana, them on 4 until they either take the two mana hit or 5 lifepoints.
i'm not saying it's good, but it doesn't require you to sacrifice your own lands.
>>46892345
Is it really? They are so damn incredible
>>46895641
That's the kind of cards I like, and I'm sure a playset will cost 10¢
Posting the OG weird card. Can somebody explain the art?
>>46896729
Not 100% sure, but I'm pretty sure I was a piece of artwork by Richard Garfield's Aunt.
>>46896729
well it was done by Fay Jones who never ever did another card ever apart from this one, so that tells you somthing.
also, apparantly she was an established artist, and did this as a favour (?) for her nephew or somthing or rather mumble mumble
schoolchildren were involved.
if I had to guess as to the meaning of the art,
I'd say the blue guy is you, the player, and he is vomiting blue to represent his disgust in himself in playing such a scummy colour.
you are sitting opposite your opponent on a level, balanced playing field, and you notice your opponent is a cunning fox, a metaphor of course for every MTG player that doesn't play blue, due to having some kind of critical thinking capability.
then there is a cresent moon, and a painters tray no fucking idea, it was probably looking a bit dull.
moral of the story, you are a bad person and you should feel bad for playing blue
have a gander at this one
>>46896682
It's easy to find weird cards in Timespiral.
>>46896804
> hating a colour
> not even a theme or sub set
> just the colour
>>46897250
i'm just interpreting the art in front of me man.
this piece just screams "fuck blue!"
>>46897250
People wouldn't hate blue if it wasn't so overpowered.
What is the point in paying 6 mana for a Craw Wurm if it can be hit by Counterspell for 2 mana and or even worse by Control Magic for 4 mana?
>>46896903
>Play Shahrazad
>Fork
>laugh maniacally
>>46897329
That's fucking evil
>>46897329
>run 4 shahrazads
>run 4 forks
>go to FNM
>play multiple games within games
>die a slow lonely death by yourself with no friends
Someone please tell me what this fucking thing does, or how is it useful
>>46897457
cheap carddraw for hellbent/madness?
>>46897457
if you are playing a deck that just uses up the hand, this card basically draws you more cards.
>>46897457
draw draw draw
>>46897457
so if im reading this right, and you enter upkeep with a card in your hand you DONT draw an additional card and just take 1 damage?
or you DO still draw and take one damage?
and you still draw directly after this card resolves?
>>46897469
>>46897482
>>46897483
And why would I play that instead of, for example, a Howling mine or >>46897483?
>>46897497
At the beginning of your upkeep:
If you have a card, you get pinged
If you don't, you draw a card
>>46897507
one less mana and tapping a mana every turn respectively.
fuck what's that card you have to hide things from your opponent? i can't find it
it's wacky as shit
>>46897507
There are decks that are built around an empty hand, having some extra draws is helpful.
Howling Mine is symmetrical, and your opponents will always get the benefit of an extra draw before you will
Grafted Skullcap is one mana more expensive
>>46897507
its quite cheap at 3 and it only gets you cards,
maybe someone uses it as a backup for some other carddraw in an EDH deck
>>46897250
>racism
>>46897547
Goblin Game?
>>46897623
YES
holy shit I have no idea what this card wants the players to do.
>>46897637
Everyone bets life. The lowest bidder loses had their life in addition to their bet. It's not hard
>>46887249
fuck yeah nigga, this + venser is great
>>46897637
its easy. All players hide a number of objects of their choosing. (hide meaning whatever so long as the other players cant see how many you hid). Then simultaneously all show their things. Each players looses life equal to the items they hid. THEN the person who hid the least objects looses half their remaining life.
It is a shit card but only JUST barely. If the damage instances were swapped (looser loses half his life THEN takes damage for each item hidden) then it could kill at some pretty high numbers.
>>46897637
>>46897497
You guys need to read more if you can't understand what these cards do. Neither of them are very complicated.
I use it to remove from my graveyard lands and useless stuff before I shuffle it back into my library with Feldon's cane in my Pauper Fog deck
>>46897720
>>46897718
>>46897694
what?
hide what objects? my deck? tokens? that coin in my back pocket? what if we are playing in an open field? are we reqired to have non-game items avaliable? or can we hide things that are in play?
it's ambiguious as fuck.
>>46897754
Read The Fucking Card. Hide whatever the fuck you want. You're the only person who I've ever heard of having trouble understanding this card
>>46897785
sweet, so i'm picking up my opponents deck and hiding it.
litterally how the card is worded.
>>46897637
>>46897754
>>46897785
>>46897833
Usually you don't hide anything.
It's all numbers anyway. You just pick numbers.
>>46897833
Sure but a deck or more specifically in this case an opponents deck itself counts only as one object. If you pick up two different opponent's decks that are both individually one objects each you are considered to have two objects.
i'm just going to stop.
goblin game is fucking stupid.
>>46897833
No it's not you drooling retard, a deck is not an object it's a stack of cards, and you can't rearrange your opponent's library unless something tells you to do exactly that. Are you this fucking dumb on purpose or is it just by accident
>>46895189
Yes, but it's more or less soft banned in competitive live Magic due to you being unable to provide a sufficiently randomized deck to your opponent within the three minutes you have to shuffle. You can totally play it on Magic Online though.
Still, I remember seeing some lists of it being played in tournies back in the day. I also remember that people who played the said they were very amused by how people would sideboard in stuff like enchantment removal against them, saying something akin to
>"My deck is 250 cards, there's literally no way I can consistently draw anything in my deck that you have sideboarded in hate against."
>>46898068
>a deck is not an object it's a stack of cards
cards are objects
the sleeves are objects
the playmat is an object
the table is an object
the rules section of the card instruct players to hide objects
it's not my problem MTG AND goblins game doesn't define an object, so I have to fall back to the linguistic definition of an object.
The card is fucking dumb, the wording is dumb, and the mechanic is dumb. whether Im fucking dumb on purpose or not is irrelevant.
>>46898068
>a deck is not an object it's a stack of cards
Uhhhhhh what.
Guess what that stack of cards form? An object called a deck.
>>46898127
>Yes, but it's more or less soft banned in competitive live Magic due to you being unable to provide a sufficiently randomized deck to your opponent within the three minutes you have to shuffle.
It's not soft banned in any form in competitive live Magic.
Trust me on this, I was at GP Melbourne and watched some guy play a Battle of Wits deck in the Super Sunday Series event.
>>46898127
i thought this card was the reason they had to change the wording on how long you had to shuffle to "a reasonable ammount of time"
>>46886811
>-1/-1
But why? Wouldn't it just die when it hit 0 toughness?
>>46898221
Yeah, but this forces you to use 2+ colours to have it live.
>>46897637
>>46897971
But that's not super clear, because "object" also has a meaning in the game rules. If you have to hide objects that are actually in the game, that could allow other players to know what your number is.
I would put this up there as a weird one, mainly because Wizards had NO IDEA how to actually get it to work when it was first printed. They actually errata'd it to an Enchantment at one point. Then Time Spiral and Suspend came around and they figured out a way to get it working.
>>46897436
>tfw your store has a "Physical punishment" rule so subhumans like you never come
Last time a little subhuman tried to pull illegal shit we beat his shit in, when he was crying for the judge he came with a sledge hammer and LITERALLY destroyed his cock and balls, we call him now "Jimmy the cucked cockless".
>>46897637
OBJECT
An object is any concrete "thing" in a game of Magic: an ability on the stack, a card, a copy of a card, a token, a spell, a permanent, or an emblem.
...
...
109.5. The words “you” and “your” on an object refer to the object’s controller, its would-be controller (if a player is attempting to play, cast, or activate it), or its owner (if it has no controller). For a static ability, this is the current controller of the object it’s on. For an activated ability, this is the player who activated the ability. For a triggered ability, this is the controller of the object when the ability triggered, unless it’s a delayed triggered ability
soooo
an object can be an activated ability on a card?
that doesn't seem like an object.
>>46898272
Rough, what'd he do?
>>46898306
>>46897637
i thought you were being autistic at first but i get your point now
this is easily exploitable
I hide 2 coins. If the opponent hid less objects, great, I win, if they hid 2 or 3 I say I hid 4 coin sides and I still win
>>46898339
Hence why the gatherer advises you announce what type of objects you are hiding. If anyone tried to honestly pull his autistic faggotry, they should be punched
>>46898352
Gatherer does not advice you to do that. What Gatherer actually says is:
>When it comes to choice of items, use common sense. Items should be small enough to hide but large enough to count. Make it clear what kind of object you are hiding beforehand. For example, one player may choose coins and the other may choose dice. If you can’t find something convenient to hide, write numbers on a piece of paper and reveal the numbers. Make sure the numbers are unambiguous (for example, underline a 6 or 9 so it can’t be misread).
>common sense
Goblin Game is so poorly thought out and worded that the official ruling is that common sense is the arbiter.
>>46893715
At least post the one with the great ass.
>>46898400
>Make it clear what kind of object you are hiding beforehand.
Fuck off autismfag
>>46898339
exactly.
you could reveal the top 4 cards of your graveyard, announce "these were the things I was hiding" count your opponents, and then say the activated ablility on one of those cards counts for another object.
it's fucking outragous, I know in practice, 99% of the time the actual play will probably go somthing like >>46897694
but the fact the rules would allow a player to run with something like this just goes to point out this card's shitty wording and mechanics.
it's just a dumb card
>>46898352
whoever wrote the rule section of GG should be punched for sure.
players using this card should be punched on a where-needed basis.
>>46898401
thats gay
you're gay
>>46897329
That's nothing, I was playing EDH with teams and one of the guys on the other team had this in a deck full of white and blue instants and sorceries and also Eye of the Storm, and the other guy on his team had Eye of the Storm in a red and blue deck full of instants and sorceries, it spiraled out of control instantly. White-and-blue guy's primary strategy was to use this card over and over again using his own eye of the storm until the other player just rolled their eyes and folded, with two of them it was fucking ridiculous, there were like a dozen new games in the first couple turns of it being played.
Anyways, it was a bullshit move, but I thought it was hilarious at the time, even though I rolled my eyes and forfeited.
>>46898221
the reason is that you can't play this in mono colored decks (althought it would be extremely shitty there even wenn 0/0...)
>>46898443
wouldn't you eventually fuck them up if you played all those subgames though?
they can't have much utility if they built two decks around gimicks like that.
and their life would move closer and closer to 1 every game
>>46898443
Can you forfeit one or more of the sub-games and not the main game?
>>46898465
>>46898221
>>46898234
More importantly it means that using five colors only gives you two activations with no 1/1 left to chump and forces you to go five colors to get all the activations you can out of it. The card is horrendously bad, but the design is mostly logical.
>>46898427
No, that's a chicken. Not gay. Even if it was a guy, you can still appreciate the fact that he has a nice ass.
>>46898505
Fuck, auto correct. Meant to say chick.
>>46898505
>No, that's a chicken
look mate.
Im no expert on chickens or negros, but i can tell you that is no chicken.
>>46898519
i see this, but I'm still gunna post because Im tenacious.
>>46898505
>>46898519
A chicken is fine too...
>>46898490
I'd assume so
they could never actually kill you with this strat, you'd round up to one life every time you folded.
>>46898443
>a deck full of white and blue instants...
>a red and blue deck full of instants...
>it spiraled out of control instantly
>>46898401
am I to take it from this artwork that next to scarred puma there is a black creature depicted attacking?
>>46886860
Damn clash sounds amazing and my first reaction was wanting to play it. Then I thought about the mechanics and its just so shitty.
>>46898443
Was it two headed giant? If so then only one person on their team could have an eye of the storm.
>>46898544
False; you round down, read the card carefully.
>>46898490
Theoretically yes
>>46898480
The decks weren't bad either, they weren't entirely based around gimmicks. They just had an unexpected synergy. Also, the white-and-blue guy had other legacy bullshit in his deck like horsemanship, the alternative to flying that never got off the ground.
All in all, the game was for fun, and it was hilarious, and I had a good time.
>>46898639
>you round down
fuuuuck those cunts then
Anyone ever see this played?
>>46898696
what the actual fuck
like
what.
what axis does it have to turn over? end over end? or can you spin it onto the table?
can you stand on your chair and ninja-star it into your opponents lands?
>>46898401
>Attacking black creature
HA
>>46898729
not sure, also look at this one
>>46898729
Even more fun if you create a token of this, as the game doesn't dictate the size and shape tokens have to be.
Your chaos orb token can be a bowl of confetti and it'd be perfectly legal.
>>46898729
No, you rip it to shreds and throw the pieces everywhere.
This card's wording, both on the card and oracle, is amazing. It genuinely bothers me.
>>46898761
Wheres that one long ass combo that uses this card where you get to rip up every cards in an opponents deck?
>>46898787
please be real
>>46898618
Clash was actually intended primarily as a mana smoothing mechanic for limited. It reads like a Timmy effect, but the idea is that both players essentially scry 1.
>>46898761
>>46898765
>>46898768
I'm fucking speechless
Only card to target libraries.
>>46898774
Why?
Forcing a draw made more sense when ante existed.
terrible card but funny as fuck
>>46898820
That's pretty cool.
>>46898824
10/4/2004: Equinox will not counter a spell which requires sacrificing land when it enters the battlefield, or one that requires sacrificing land as part of the cost to cast it.
10/4/2004: Equinox will not counter a spell that has a random chance of destroying a land.
10/4/2004: Equinox will not counter a spell which would indirectly cause destruction of one of your lands.
10/4/2004: The ability can target any spell, even one that would not destroy a land.
10/4/2004: Equinox will not counter a spell that deals damage to an animated land, even if it would deal more damage than the land's toughness. This is because the spell itself does not destroy the land directly. The land is destroyed by a game rule.
10/1/2008: Will not counter a spell which would destroy a land only if a choice is made.
9/20/2013: When the activated ability resolves, determine whether the targeted spell would destroy a land if it resolved right then. If it would, then counter that spell. Otherwise, it is not countered, even if the spell could, under other circumstances, destroy a land.
It is predictive. Imagine a card that says "counter target spell that deals damage" or "counter target spell that gains life". Nothing else in MTG really works that way. It is making you do the work, in a way.
>>46898810
You need another card to give Krosan Restorer haste since it changed control this turn.
>>46898862
So the point is to keep it facedown at all times?
>>46898862
What does it actually do though? Is it just supposed to be fodder to trick your enemy into hitting it instead of your other morphs? If so why not just use literally any other morph creature.
>>46898898
There are spells that have effects based on converted mana cost. Maybe that was the point.
>>46898915
Hmm. Maybe that's it.
>>46897833
>hide opponents deck
>bid 47 life
>>46898862
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?action=advanced&set=+[%22Scourge%22]&text=+[highest]
It worked with these cards from the same set.
Currently errata'd to have no creature type, as it is nameless.
>>46898862
>>46898915
Does it work with the dragon enchant cycle
>>46898894
>>46898898
The set was full of cards that cared about the CMC of permanents.
You flip your Egotist and those cards do lots of work?
>>46898932
>>46898945
So it might be good?
p anything either.
12/1/2004: Neurok Transmuter's second ability interacts strangely with March of the Machines from the Mirrodin set. If an artifact is an artifact creature only because March of the Machines is on the battlefield and you then activate Neurok Transmuter's second ability on that artifact creature, the result is a permanent with no types whatsoever. Neurok Transmuter's ability removes the type "artifact." March of the Machines depends on knowing what is and isn't an artifact. The permanent won't be an artifact when March of the Machine's effect is applied and therefore it won't be turned into a creature.
Allows you to have a blue permanent with no card types.
>>46898335
Played his lands in front of his creatures.
>>46898961
This seems like it could be a useful utility card.
>>46898966
that son of a bitch
you guys did good
Classic. Errata'd now, but the card text does clearly say you have to let Floral Spuzzem choose.
>>46898980
and he tapped his cards 45 degrees instead of 90 degrees
>>46898982
Name your children Floral Spuzzem so they can dominate in antiquities with this card.
>>46899009
or just bring him along
>>46898272
Fake and gay
>>46898886
it didn't tho
>>46898976
It isn't useless, I just like that it can make a permanent with no types. The thread did ask for weird cards, not just useless ones.
Here is this card's new wording:
torm Phoenix would die, return Firestorm Phoenix to its owner's hand instead. Until that player's next turn, that player plays with that card revealed in his or her hand and can't play it.
Pretty sure no other card is kept in hand revealed. I like that the original designers didn't even consider the possibility of you having two of these.
>>46899041
duh
>>46898961
>>46898980
you're able to dodge "destroy all creatures" then?
>>46898996
wait what
that's how you tap bro
my old lands have the tap symbol as a letter T on a 45 degree angle.
are you saying you tap lands to 90 degrees you fucking degenerate?
>>46899075
>not tapping 180 degrees
it's like you guys don't even want to win
>>46899075
45 degrees can be unclear if it's tapped or just accidentally nudged. 90 degrees removes all doubt and prevents awkward situations.
>>46899009
it's a price worth paying.
>>46899075
>>46899085
>Not tapping 720 degrees
git gud casual
>>46899094
I'm just saying if they wanted us to tap lands to 90 degrees they should have made the symbols rotate more than 45
>>46899109
I did chuckle.
Only card to feature these counters, as far as I know. Other weird PT counters are +2/+2, +1/+0, +0/+1, +0/-1 (as seen on the classic Wall), -1/+0.
>>46899129
so these are seperate mechanics to counters?
the power/toughness increases are just straight upgrades?
Why doesn't he have reach? He's basically on stilts.
>>46892793
>could of
>>46899212
I saw it too bro
some people
>>46899212
Really? A grammar nazi on 4chins??
>>46895325
>what are tutors
>>46899129
those aren't counters. not unless the eratta makes them counters.
>>46899242
>tutors
220 then
or how close to 200 would you feel safe playing?
>>46899170
The only real separate mechanic is that they don't cancel out the way +1/+1 counters do with -1/-1 counters. Also, if you proliferate them, you obviously generate more value.
But, you can't for example, use them with Retribution of the Ancients.
>>46899189
Whippoorwill is a real bird and is clearly depicted midflight in this picture. This creature doesn't fly.
>>46897313
>what's the point of casting anything if there exists a way to remove it?
I'll never understand how people have a problem with their creatures being countered over them being hit with a two mana kill spell.
>>46899252
The errata does indeed make them counters. Sorry about that.
>>46899298
Guess they just couldn't fit it on the card.
>>46899313
1/2 counters should be used more. It kinda makes more sense.
Card clearly says to use counters. Just, in general. Anyway, errata'd to "(This effect lasts indefinitely)", no counters at all.
>>46899416
Colorless mana counters?
This may not be true, but I believe this is the only creature that can assign combat damage to its own controller without any additional cards.
>>46899437
How? It says defending player.
Never saw this ability before.
>>46898639
>horsemanship, the alternative to flying that never got off the ground.
>got off the ground
cheeky bastard.
>>46899446
if Butcher ogre blocks then you ARE the defending player. But I wouldn't be surprised if this got an errata.
>>46899446
If you block with it, you are defending.
>>46899446
Block with it.
>>46899478
Lot of weird protections out there. This card is also the only card with Bloodthirst X, so it literally is the only reason for Bloodthirst X to be defined in the comprehensive rules (notice that shit is reminder text, not rules text).
>>46899493
kinda with horsemanship was still around. I don't like how flying has an a monopoly on evasive maneuvers
>>46899506
wow. that's true
>>46899522
>protection from instants
nice
also, I like cards that encourage you to do things on the second main phase
Bloodthirst should be used again.
>>46899506
It hasn't yet.
Anyway, speaking of defending player, here is a weird card. Did you know that there is a defending player even before you declare attacks? I didn't.
By the way, it is any of your opponents.
>>46899561
Wonder how this would work in multiplayer.
>>46899561
>>46899579
I should probably read your entire post before I respond next time. Heh.
>>46899554
>encourage you to do things on the second main phase
THIS
make second main phase relevant please
>>46899593
No worries! I didn't know that shit either. The fucking thing doesn't even have rulings, you have to dreg up the comprehensive rules as though it is obvious.
Anyway, here is a card that is clearly weird.
>>46899041
Why is this fake and gay anon?
>>46899635
That card doesn't seem all that weird.
>>46898401
Is that guybutt or girlbutt?
>>46899635
Wait, you can cast it even without Threshold ?
>>46899691
Looks like a girl.
>>46899705
I think you can but it does nothing.
>>46899705
Yes. And your opponent can also remove your graveyard in response to turn it blank.
>>46899686
It can resolve without effect.
But i think it's cool, there should be more of these cards, especially with recent delirium or madness.
>>46899686
>>46899705
I'll admit, there are cards that do nothing when you cast them under certain circumstances, like One with Nothing if you have an empty hand, but I do feel as though a card that literally does nothing without threshold is somehow different. I don't know why.
Anyway, due to manlands, Pyramids have some strange oracle text:
>The next time target land would be destroyed this turn, remove all damage marked on it instead.
>>46899602
Think I might make a Bloodthirst deck. What are some similar abilities?
>>46899691
>>46899706
how many girls you see around with that kind of muscle definition in the back?
it's a large naked black man, deal with it.
>>46899803
>many girls you see around with that kind of muscle definition
maybe ones that hunt large cats for food
Non-permanent card with an activated ability. Pretty well known though, as it has seen some play.
>>46899298
I kept saying if I ever got back into Magic I would run tribal bird so the store owner gave me 4 of these, and we all realized it couldn't fly.
Remember when a flying 1/1 for 1 WITH a special ability on top would have been crazy op?
>>46899832
I dunno man, the vibe i get from it is a fella just out for a walk who gets attacked by a puma.
he's got a secondary weapon, and shield, that's just his EDC though, is that really puma hunting attire?
who hunts pumas anyway?
>>46899871
good point but I don't care I'm not afraid of the bbc
>>46899857
Yes, the days of Cloud Sprite, after the days of Flying Men. But it is green. Funny though, that set surely had green flyers though.
Only card with Enchant Opponent. Though, they've printed a fair share of enchant players since then.
>>46899922
wow, this card is cheating
>>46899800
I dunno and it's late but imma look into it because that interests me.
>>46899947
still have to pay mana cost though and it's only a..
oh
6 mana 9/5
Is this card good or bad?
>>46899945
could be a cool way to nulify any card draw advantage they have
Only five color card that costs less than 5 mana.
Until they print some 3 mana 5 color monstrosity with hybrid costs.
>>46899978
I don't play EDH but I'd imagine it'd be a good include if you were in 5 colours.
>>46899800
Raid?
>>46899945
yhmm... curse cycle?
Best card in the game.
>>46900056
Curses are all enchant player. This one has to be only opponent, as otherwise, it doesn't make sense.
Anyway, I might be out. I probably will remember some more weirdos later, but unless I literally want to look through a few sets in entirity, I am out. Especially since Time Spiral block is cheating.
>>46899968
5 + 1 + 1 = 6
>>46900224
>fucked up face
this is the only card with Absorb
>>46900248
well...it's 3:20AM
Ante was a mistake.
>>46900249
>this is the only card with Absorb
For good reason. Maro claimed on a podcast just how fucking annoying it is to kill anything with Absorb
>>46900346
I can imagine, because the health returns to normal at the end of the turn anyway.
>>46898934
The grand creature type update was incredibly dumb.
>>46900346
It is funny how people seem to get how annoying Absorb would be in limited, where your only means of killing things is often multi blocking, but still think Bushido and Rampage are inherently flawed.
This shit here
>>46898401
>has both eyes
>attacking alone
God damn it, Aaron.
>>46900579
wtf, yeah this is a bad art thread now
>>46887249
I own this in french, along with a Japanese Lich's Mirror. I don't know why I put myself through that pain.
>>46900445
Flanking is A-Ok?
>>46900751
Flanking's only problem is that it tried to be Flying 2.0 and has that ugly "unless they have flanking" deal.
I also keep forgetting it doesn't work on blocks. I assume it is different bushido and it isn't.
>>46896903
I can't seem to find the screencap where you play Nefarious Lich or something similar, donate it to your opponent, Shahrazad, then Wish Nefarious Lich, meaning it's left the original game but that's not checked until Shahrazad's subgame ends. It leaves the opponent in a state where they've lost but are still playing.
>>46896903
Isochron Scepter + Hive Mind + Shahrazad would be enough to make me quit a game.
>>46895189
My best friend played it in a 235 card deck just prior to the rotation it last went out so that he could use every fog effect and cantrip going to get through the deck and hold off damage.
He often got it in hand by turn five but the problem was playing it and being open to lethal damage, he kept needed fog effects. He won one match on Gameday which is an achievement in itself and a judge insisted on counting all the cards in his deck. I gave him a fatpack box to use as a shoe to keep the deck standing upright.
>>46895556
I took a Mudhole as a last-but-one pick in Odessey block draft last year. Was ok though because I got a Cabal Coffers and an Ichorid.
>>46887249
That's an edh card if I've ever seen one
>>46899635
>>46899686
>>46899785
This one is pretty weird. The difference is that those cards do nothing WITHIN a certain set of circumstances, while this one does nothing OUTSIDE a specific set of circumstances. Doing nothing is its default state.
>>46899978
With some kinda landfall deck its not bad. With Gitrog Monster too.
Weirdest red card ever
>>46901569allahu ackbar
>>46894231
My buddy once won a game of 60 card kitchen table with this battle of wits and 300 storm crows. Magic is a fun game
Best card in the game
>>46901587
Not weird, it just blocks them from killing you until they remove it.
>>46901688
It just doesnt have the flavor of a red card. It would make so much more sense as a white card flavor wise.
>>46901653
Wonder if the chosen cards have to be legal in the format you are playing.
>>46901724
"Outside the game" is your sideboard.
>>46901751
ah. disregard me, I suck cocks
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?action=advanced&subtype=+%5BWeird%5D
>>46898696
Yes.
We ruled it had to flip face over back. Some people would interpret it as rotating 360degrees facing up. I don't think they understood what "flip" meant.
It's a lot less impressive than it reads. I think the record was 5 cards on a perfect drop? Most times it would hit 1 or 2 things.
We always blew it away when it was falling.
>>46901857
Just the idea of throwing a card seems crazy.
>>46898934
before the update it used to be "creature - nameless"
>>46900577
both in the same set no less
>>46898862
perfect combo
>>46898561
>>46901880
There was one more if you care.
It was the younger brother of Chaos Orb and way less cool.
I only saw one person use it.
>>46902042
wtf were they thinking?
>>46901857
Flip like a coin, not like a frisbee. That's a ruling on one of those cards.
>>46899978
Well, it can search for 5 duals, so that's a plus. Getting countered pretty much looses you the game with that kind of additional cost. If you're playing in a format with Coalition Victory, you just put yourself halfway to winning (but the same could be said of having a Prismatic Omen in play, at half the cost).
As stated, it's 5 landfall triggers, and if you have a Valakut in play, it's 15 damage provided you get the correct duals. It's basically a watered-down Scapeshift is the real problem. The only real upside in direct comparison is that depending on the lands you grab, they can come in untapped here as opposed to with Scapeshift. Also Scapeshift is Modern legal and this is not.
>Gives one creature flying ability
sounds like an activated effect on the creature, it's not though
>>46898243
The card was printed before MtG actually made since. They have errata'd 'object' to 'item' and have specified that if you can't hide anything easily, write the number in an easily legible way on a piece of paper.
