In this thread we discuss goat folk. How can they be used most effectively on a setting? As an antagonistic/barbarous race or as some sort of wood elf, forest creature analogue? Both seem to be correct from their appearance on mythology.
also post pictures of hoofed qts.
They do make good wood elf stand ins, andtotal elf replacements
>>46869049
Any tips on how to make a reformed Satyr? By reformed I mean he got tired of the partying life and decided to follow a less hedonistic path. I was thinking of him trying to become a priest or something but I feel like I'm making him into a special snowflake.
>>46869148
Yeah m8 i do believe elves are kinda overdone in fiction, so i was thinking about making a setting with other mythical beings, satyrs, centaurs, harpies etc...
Same for dorfs and orcs and all the other clichée fantasy races.
>>46869214
Just make him a carpenter or general laborer.
>>46869230
So you're making Theros?
>>46869375
Or a monk.
>>46869390
Nahh not sure if i want to go with the Graeco-Roman aesthetic, i was thinking of a more central asia/silk road themed setting, which is from where myths of strange ccreatures like centaurs, manticores and griffins came to the greeks on the first place
pic related.
>>46869049
Satyrs were generally some sort of nature spirit, known mainly for their music, dance, and partying. Goats tend to be independent and curious creatures, able to get just about anywhere and get into anything. There's a number of different ways you could take it.
They could be reclusive forest dwellers, expert trackers and experts at hiding where they live. Few see them or know much about them, but most people living nearby understand that they protect their forests and don't try to anger them.
They could be tricksters, thieves, and scoundrels, never ones to keep their hands to themselves and will occasionally "borrow" belongings of others... especially those who annoy them.
They could be wandering gypsies, traveling in large troupes who engage in music, dance, revelry, and festivities in any town they come to.
They could be explorers, wanderers, and people who just don't know when to avoid sticking their noses into dangerous places.
They could be willing to live in the strangest or remote parts of the world, climbing up and living off the land on cliff faces or frozen tundra, where most others would not even consider visiting.
They could be all the above. Nothing stops a species from being limited to a single stereotype, after all.
>>46870598
Hmm those are certainly some interesting prospects, i must confess i like the gypsy prospect the most, having them as travelling caravans through forest, tundra and steppe seems interesting.
>>46869049
We had them in a campaign setting awhile back. They had their own country and were known for agriculture and food exports. Some of the best farmers in the land and known for having outrageous seasonal festivals. One of the other players ended up playing as one that had previously been part of the city guard in a border trade city. They were treated as more civilized and industrious than elves but still kept their ties with nature by working the land and growing crops and animals.
>>46871040
Ahh so kinda like halflings/tolkenian hobbits? That's an interesting way of using them.
>>46869049
>also post pictures of hoofed qts.
You have no idea what you have summoned.
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>>46869148
Not really. Satyrs are like the exact opposite of elves, actually.
>>46872900
How so?
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>>46872894
Mmmm yes this is bery gud
>>46872900
How come? They are if anything, very similar to wood elves in some aspects, if anything, they're a more "wild" or "barbarian" version of wood elves.
>>46872976
Are you having faun?
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>>46872976
Elves are more often than not defined by being reserved and elegant creatures, even when living in trees.
Satyrs are literal rapists. Like, all they do is lure shepherds away from civilization and rape them whenever they're not just raping nymphs. The pan flute was the original rape whistle for fucks sake, except instead of alerting others that a rape was occurring, it was to give the rapee a head start on running away from the rapist
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>>46873212
You're going to make me ask for the source for that, aren't you?
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>>46872761
A picture for ants?
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>>46869214
I'd make him a merchant who's all business. Will gladly enjoy a drink or two, but only if it'll help set the tone for negotiations and will make sure to only get cheap stuff for himself. Then again, I have a hard on for Spice and Wolf and end up making have my characters into Lawrence.
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>>46873692
Sweet
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>>46873924
I suppose I'll dump some non-cute too
>>46873915
I've decided that there's not enough beef in this thread.
>>46873956
Sorry anon.
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>>46873971
No problem, man
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>>46874116
Here I am talking shit and forgetting to contribute myself.
>>46873477
>gypsies
>not the scum of the earth
I'd kill every satyr I came across in your setting
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>>46874153
Something a little different now.
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>>46874085
I am sorry that you are so butthurt by me that you can't just enjoy the dump.
Maybe you would like to actually... Contribute?
>>46874109
>Muh 2d waifus
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>>46874210
>muh 3D scene girls
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>>46874223
>Thats correct.
>Its great being able to actually indulge in my kink IRL
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>>46874325
Now im just sure you have no idea what the word means...
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>>46874210
Just for curiosity, who's that cosplayer? Ohh for research purposes of course...
>>46874137
Careful lad, you might cut yourself with all that edge!
>>46874319
I guess fauns don't make him horny.
>>46874137
Aren't gypsies mainly disliked for thieving, or something? While them having the traveling lifestyle works, I can't really imagine satyrs giving enough of a shit to steal anything, except maybe some food and alcohol.
>>46874452
Yeah i don't really think they'd be thieving on this setting, they'd be more like wandering artist troupes, going from town to town bringing their music and spectacle
>>46874434
No clue. Try google reverse image search.
>>46874452
Gypsies are to Roma as Niggers are to black people. The worst of every stereotype of the race turned up to eleven. They do exist, and we are ashamed of them.
>>46874525
I thought Gypsy was a colloquial way to refer to the Roma? Again, i dont know many of the people so i can't say for sure.
>>46874525
>They do exist, and we are ashamed of them.
So they're you?
>>46874499
>yet another shitty namefag
Joy
>>46874643
Hey, this isn't faun pics, it's just some pathetic attempt at an argument. Well I never!
>>46874452
>I can't really imagine satyrs giving enough of a shit to steal anything
Because booze, properly treated leather for pan flutes, and anal virginities just grow on trees, right?
>>46874722
Dryads
>>46874452
>>46874522
I could totally see fauns and satyrs stealing, as they may not have a sense of property, but not so much the nomadic lifestyle, probably preferring to live their lives in their woods.
>>46874499
Welcome to the party
>>46874516Whats wrong? Not down to clown?Honk honk
>>46874570
Only so much as nigger used to be also. It originates as a misidentification, that would turn into a slur. Gypsy, gypo etc, are all short form of "little egyptian", being traced to the Romani people entering Europe in the 15thC. Modernly, most see it as a slur, but it has a history of being used as the go-to, and even today is still widely used. Then again, I come from a place where "colored" and "mulatto" are still standard on official state documents, so take it with some salt.
I don't get bent out of shape over it, but for some folks, its fighting words.
>>46874643
Nah, I haven't stolen gold teeth and children in YEARS.
>>46874722
>leather for pan flutes
What? They are made of hollow reeds and canes.
>>46874733
Quite cheeky that.
>>46874783
I think he means leather to hold the tubes together.
>>46874733
They rape those too, yes
>>46874827
Still grass, reed or cane. Occasionally woven textile.
>>46869214
Does anyone else kind of hate the alcoholism hedonistic aesthetic of true Greek mythos satyrs/fauns? I kind of find it a turn off for their whole people, they always seem like dwarves that traded material wealth for social skills. Is that bad of me?
>Female Satyrs
Nope, nope, nope, the classicist in me just threw up in my mouth.
They mate with nymphs and human women in Greek myth, they take after their father Pan in godly aspect, and are not truly a "race" in the sense of having males and females of the same species, but a culture of debased demigods.
>The satyr people are found in mountain ranges are a reflection of the Sherpa of Nepal in customs and aesthetics.
Would this be the best use of satyrs?
>>46877940
Yes, it's bad.
Their predilection for drink and sex is basically shorthand for total lack of self-control.
You failed to read between the lines of the stereotype to the greater truth.
>>46877995
Yak-Men would be more appropriate for that.
>>46877944
well, on my settings satyrs don't have a sex, they are spirits of lust and gluttony, they will appear as any gender and try to lure you into the forest, then, when there you will be fucked, killed and sometimes eaten, not necessary on this order. Usually they prey near roads so they can steal travellers supplies, some acquire a taste for wine.If a satyr is hungry or lustful for some time it will eat or fuck anything it can get hands on, likewise it will eat parts of a lured human to satiate part of his hungry then proceed to use the corpse to attain pleasure in any way it can think ofthey are not really gluttony spirits but there is much pleasure on feeding
>>46878100
Just about acceptable.
Carry on as you were.
>>46877944
Well then post some cute satyr boy pictures then if it's pissing you off so much
>>46878013
What is the greater truth, anon?
>>46874525
>They do exist, and we defend them every chance we get.
Fixed
In old myth, satyrs are all male, how would this work in biology?
>>46879488
Pic related, but in reverse.
>>46879488
Why would old myth satyrs need to work in biology, they're, like, nature spirits or least-tier gods or whatever aren't they?
>>46879488
Ass babies
>>46879488
Male satyr can impregnate females of any medium-sized humanoid race that reproduces sexually. There's 20% chance child will be born satyr, otherwise child is the mother's species.
>>46879488
>In old myth, satyrs are all male
NOPE
O
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>>46880086
Fauns had men and women, satyrs were exclusively male.
Also see >>46879628, last I checked whenever a satyr is presented in fiction they can totally fuck any humanoid and produce more satyrs that way.
Question is, do satyrs havehorse dick or normal dick? They're infamously hedonistic so I'm leaning towards the big floppy one.
>>46880176
They are supposed to have a normal, albeit huge "human" cock.
SHEEPIES!
>>46869049
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centaurides
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glaistig
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satyress
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>>46873144
>Elves are more often than not defined by being reserved and elegant creatures, even when living in trees.
Boring. Elegance is cool, but being reserved is not. How can you be reserved but also be prone to wanderlust? Doesn't work out.
>Satyrs are literal rapists.
Elves are literally associated with sexual threat.
>>46878426
Not him, but they're a representation of base pulsions and animalistics impulses in humans.
The opposite of civilization.
Hard to represent them without it.
>>46880505
>red hair
>not red fur
Triggered.
>>46880505
>painted hair
>>46881141
Dyeing your legs is a lot of work.
>>46881141
Well yeah, hair and fur are completely different coverings. It'd be like complaining the color of your nails doesn't match your hair.
Satyr are horse based
Fauns are goats based
>>46881616
Satyrs are goats
Fauns are sheep.
>>46881616
are you drunk?
>>46881707
No. Look it up.
>>46880176
Most likely normal big dicks. Though they're rapey, they do like it when people do agree to mate with them.
>>46881616
Satyrs sometimes had the ears and tails of horses, they've been portrayed with goat, horse and human legs.
>>46881918
that's some newfag right there
can't even get the triforce right
>>46882563
Nah, im still rockin'. Just busy.
>>46884830
In my setting satyrs are magical semi parasites, while looking female they are all functionality male, using pheromones to lure prey and make them more suggestive, they rarely have to force a coupling with their date rape cloud, the partner will awaken the next night as a fellow satyr
>>46886404
Sounds really fetishy
>>46886404
And then I imagined poison as a satyr
13 year-old me was all about Wayne Reynolds satyr in the 3.5 Monster Manual.
I still kind of like it, in spite of the Dynamic Pose! and wall-eyed expression. The fact that he's nakedreally tempers Reynold's usually cluttered character designs.
>>46892931
forgot my pic.
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>>46873144
Elves are considered pretty chaotic and if you go for the elf = fairy viewpoint they are more chaotic in general.
In other words, depends on the setting but satyrs could certainly work as an elf stand-in depending on the elf.
