>Question of the day:
When did you realize that Leviathan is better than Force of Nature against most code gates?
>What is Android: Netrunner?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAslVfZ9p-Y
>Android Netrunner Official FFG News & Spoilers:
https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/tag/android-netrunner-the-card-game/
http://boardgamegeek.com/blogpost/24049/netrunner-spoilers
http://www.cardgamedb.com/index.php/netrunner/android-netrunner-card-spoilers
>Floor rules
https://images-cdn.fantasyflightgames.com/filer_public/66/62/66628aed-d2e3-41c3-9ea2-1caae96b104f/adn-floor-rules.pdf
>Official FAQ (post-MWL), Compendium on rulings, and common mistakes
https://images-cdn.fantasyflightgames.com/filer_public/c9/e5/c9e522d2-d9f6-4053-9a80-684198c25fa5/adn_faq_v301.pdf
http://ancur.wikia.com/wiki/Project_ANCUR_Wiki
https://www.reddit.com/r/postalelf/comments/2sm1d2/welcome_to_netrunner/
>Netrunner Card List and Data Pack Details:
http://netrunnerdb.com/
http://blackat.co.uk
http://acoo.net
https://github.com/shyndman/ono-sendai (You’ll need to build it yourself)
>Deckbuilding Resources:
http://netrunnerdb.com/
http://meteor.stimhack.com/
http://acoo.net
http://www.cardgamedb.com/index.php/netrunner/android-netrunner-deck-builder (not recommended)
>Articles and Blogs:
http://teamcovenant.com/blog/category/netrunner-lcg/
http://cardgamedb.com/index.php/index.html/_/android-netrunner
http://stimhack.com/
>Podcasts
http://runlastclick.blogspot.ca/
http://canlaugh.com/nerdrunners/
http://www.northerngamingnetwork.com/tagme/
http://thewinningagenda.com/
>Videocasts:
https://www.youtube.com/user/ANRBadPublicity
https://www.youtube.com/user/ANRBlackHats
https://www.youtube.com/user/cjfm27 (Hidden Assets)
https://www.youtube.com/user/TheJacksonHoward
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQ7hPuO4R15t0qAKnjFi-Iw (Metropole Grid)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPhQKKX1XHTNPO_PCQZiyUQ (Neoreading grid)
https://www.youtube.com/user/dodgepong (PeachHack)
https://www.youtube.com/user/TeamworkCast
https://www.youtube.com/user/Willingdone
Try "Why I run", great for prospective Runners looking for a hands-on demo on how Running works (replace the spaces by dots):
www nagnazul com/whyirun/whyirun.html
I've been trying out some spicy salsa islands tech. With Hayley's ability, Tech Writer, Scheherazade, Professional Contacts, and the number of credit-neutral programs shapers have access to, it's been rather fun. No Imp or Cache cycling, but refreshing D4v1d at will is fun. Too much set-up for tier 1, just enough shenanigans for tier fun!
>>46854518
Pic related
Continuing with my Fisk rambling, sorry in advance, but been hard working on that deck for a while...
So, one thing Fisk is supposed to do is artificially create agenda flood. And, obviously, the very existence of Howard so far has killed that plan dead in its tracks. In the competitive meta at least.
Got me thinking yesterday though. Crims are supposed to be the faction that hits HQ. They're the ones that are best equipped to deal with agenda flood. From HQ multi access to Gang Sign. How much more than the other two faction do you think crims diminished by the very existence of Howard, a card that is just too goo at its job?
By the way... Fisk + Woman in the Red Dress + Bhagat is very fun, despite killing your influence.
>>46854529
1 credit: Break up to 2 ice subroutines is the best thing.
>>46854518
That one seems really fun to play. I love those shapers busy decks.
>>46854518
Have you run it with Oracle May? It may just add to your set shenanigans up, but that could be useful.
>>46854861
Well, the thing is that nobody plays Criminal as a Flood faction. Nobody targets HQ as their end game, unles you count Siphons. Gabriel and Silhouette both uses HQ to stablish a certain degree of board control, but they are not stealing agendas from it. Which is why everybody thinks Honor and Profit sucked for Criminals.
So, in fact, even when Jackson should have done plenty of damage, it goes barely noticed in the competitive meta due to R&D lock and remote snipe.
>>46854861
Crims get killed pretty hard by J-how, much like Weyland gets killed by ice destruction - it's bad for everyone, but when a large part of your focus is on one thing, that thing getting weaker weakens you a lot
>>46854529
Man, I hope we get some more anti-AI tech, that guy + David is brutal
>>46854950
>it goes barely noticed in the competitive meta due to R&D lock and remote snipe.
Yeah, that's partly why I'm asking the question.
We ended up with the focus on R&D lock in no small part because of FA. What I'm wondering now, because I hadn't looked at it from that angle, is, first how much FA happens to be a problem born of the original issue of agenda flood, and then now how much of the pestering about agenda flood was just in fact a consequence of Crims being the dominant faction in the early times of the game.
Oh, and to answer the question of the day, about as soon as it was was published.
Still, poor Levi can hardly hold a candle to Yog.0.
>>46854948
>
I have not, but it's a pretty balanced mix of cards. If you can't guess right 90% of the time, I don't think she's worth it.
The Brahman Bull
Hayley Kaplan: Universal Scholar
Event (4)
1x Levy AR Lab Access
3x Sure Gamble
Hardware (12)
3x Akamatsu Mem Chip
3x Clone Chip
1x Maya
1x Net-Ready Eyes
1x Plascrete Carapace
2x R&D Interface
1x The Personal Touch
Resource (10)
2x Kati Jones
3x Professional Contacts
2x Sacrificial Construct
3x Technical Writer
Icebreaker (5)
1x Brahman
2x Cyber-Cypher
1x Inti
1x Mimic •
Program (14)
3x Cloak
1x Clot ••
1x D4v1d ••••
2x DaVinci
1x Net Shield
1x Parasite ••
1x Paricia
1x Scheherazade •
3x Self-modifying Code
10 influence spent (max 15-4=11)
45 cards (min 45)
Cards up to Salsette Island
I don't think this is the best version of the deck, but it scratches my inevitability itch. I think Lady would be a good trade for a DaVinci or other utility program to increase aggression. Refractor and Lockpick are also pretty great, but it takes more card slots than a couple of CyCy.
Killroy Was Here
Make a run.If the run is successful, instead of accessing cards install Killroy Was Here in the server as condition token with the text" Trash: access cards in the server as if you had jut successfully completed a run.
Cost 3 Criminal. Influence 4
>>46855215
She may be worth it as a one of. Only one credit to install and nets you a credit over Proco each time you grab your returned program. You even have one influence unspent. Worth a try in my opinion.
Or you could slot out Inti for Lady with that influence. It will be a 4 credit difference to break wraparound, but its not free so its not as easily bouncable.
I never thought I'd say this, but this list may actually call for Cybosoft MacroDrive. You don't have the memory for Sahasrara, can't use netchips and keep your installing credit, most of your programs are 1-2 credits (save david), and you are constantly installing things. You should be able to get that credit every turn and if you Haley it out, its like a kate's discount on prepaids. The only problem could be D4v1d, which is costly.
>>46855254
The corp should have an out or it makes scoring out in a glacier too hard. Wiping viruses or a credit cost, but make the event free to play.
>>46855041
>a consequence of Crims being the dominant faction in the early times of the game.
That's an interesting point. If we assume that FA is a consequence of Crims harashment, without the tools for fast advance the Corps might have leaned more heavily for glacier, ambushes, and flatlines; the more Netrunner part of the game. Supermodernism could have made a bigger impact, and with it, the anarch rise might have come earlier. Destroying both their ICE and damage cards before they get used and using AI breakers to bypass their gearchecks. Noise solitaire might became stronger because of it though.
>>46855490
>Noise solitaire might became stronger because of it though.
Truly, the worst.
MRW this cycle is the worst one ever.
It is just game breaking cards and silver bullets to "fix them".
It is like Lukas want to give us a bight fuck you before he left.
>>46857613
To be fair, whatever happened with the meta, Noise was going to come out winning. That's his style.
>>46857784
https://media.netflix.com/en/press-releases/netflix-teams-with-fantasy-flight-games-to-produce-android-walls-of-kowloon
>FFG and Netflix are teaming up for a new original series set in the Android universe.
>It will be 24 episodes focusing on personalities described in the popular Netrunner LCG.
>It will focus around an AI having taken over the wall city of Kowloon.
HOLY FUCKING SHIT THIS SOUNDS AMAZING.
Sounds like Apex is going to be fucking some shit up.
>>46857794
Yes, it is.
>>46858427
Stop reminding me of that awful game. Really one of the worst releases FFG has ever done.
Watching live the ANRPC Great Lakes Circuit
www twitch tv/anrpcgreatlakescircuit
Just finished round 3 with an awful MaxX vs IG game. Misplays everywhere, a banana on screen, memes.
Timed win for MaxX.
>>46858218
not real, etc.
fuck you for getting my hopes up
>>46858493
Nay, FFG has plenty of worse releases.
>>46855479
There is an out: the corp can abandon that server.
Point taken though, yeah. Some form of interaction between corp and runner would probably be for the better here.
Would make things more interesting. I'm just not too keen on the purge idea.
Oh well, that's just a made up card.
>>46855479
>I never thought I'd say this, but this list may actually call for Cybosoft MacroDrive.
With Bazaar (for people that aren't Hayley - probably Kate) and Replicator I've been thinking a MU heavy rig could actually use the macrodrives right now. Maybe Brahman is the piece we needed.
>>46857784
I don't know it's how I would describe the cycle, but yeah, it's probably the one I've been least enthused about so far.
I find there are some interesting cards, but overall the cycle kinda feels too much like stale air to me.
I'm entering into jank territory with Fisk over here.
I included 3 panchatantra, 3 gingerbread as fake AI breakers. But after a few games I get the feeling that panabread is not enough and I need normal breakers. Now I need extra MU. I was playing 2x Vigil because Fisk, and 2 R&D interface. The obvious choice for extra MU would be BOX-E. But I thought, what if I swap the Vigils and 1 R&D interface for 2 Maya? I would send troublesome cards to the bottom of R&D while feeding shit to the Corp.
Problem is I'm losing multiaccess in the process. Meaning less options for Maya.
Good idea? Jank idea? Is sending the card to the bottom of R&D worse than the conditional free draw I get from Vigil?
>>46862567
Back in Rambling mode, sorry in advance.
I don't like the idea of Maya + Fisk for one simple reason: by the time you can use Maya, you can't trigger Fisk's ability anymore.
One of the things I really like about the ID is, since the agenda flood plan is hard, you can fall back on... let's call it tempo control mode.
With Woman in the Red Dress on the table (and/or Globalsec Sevurity Clearance... I've had both on the table on a few select occasions, and that can be a lot of pressure on the corp) you can see the card on top of R&D. Meaning you know when to run there, and when not to. At worse you can just run there and force the corp to draw a card you know wouldn't have been an agenda.
And if you don't run there anyway, you're fastening the clock of the corp by a count of three cards per turn (corp draw, WitRD draw, Fisk draw.... add a Bhagat discard... which can now be selective since you know what card you're targeting and we're talking).
The corp needs to have a locked R&D. It needs defenses on the remote to prevent snipping. It needs defenses on HQ. It needs a remote that you can't snipe via Inside Job.
Add Gang Sign to the mix, and with good reading you can do decent things - the only time you want to use FIS really is when you know the corp is about to score - can't play those supernumerary cards *and* score at the same time, has to make a choice.
So now, about programs, the rig you want, I find is a rig that can run once per turn, as many turns as possible. Which screams Stealth to me... but then coming by the influence ON TOP of all the tools you need to make use of you ability is a deal breaker.
And then there's all the tools you need to have just to make sure Howard dies. Becasue that's your first priority. Even if just Feint + the gun to fasten the use, you don't want Howard firing on Agendas.
>>46853726
By the way, before I forget again: Why I run + the Gingerbread illustration = Genius.
>>46862567
By the way, if you're going in full overdraw mode, Vigil is great, but I find Turntables can be pretty good too with Fisk. You steal a "throwback" agenda from the corp which is the most likely kind you're going to get with your strat, you trade it for a sensitive one.
>>46863511
>>46863410
Thank you, I'm going to give all that some thought.
To clarify, my initial idea was to use Maya-Fisk the turn after with the information I gathered the previous turn.
I access 2 cards, next turn the Corp draws the first one as his mandatory draw, and I force him to draw the other one, this is normal Fisk.
Or I can detect a problem card, send it to the bottom, and next turn may or may not force him to draw an unknown card.
Of course, this works best with 3 accesses, having perfect information of the play is pretty important, which is why I was so worried about dropping the second interface.
Never thought about the throwback agenda like that. I used to play an anarch build with 3 spoilers and turntables. If the Corp managed to score a good one, those 3 cards trashed might be another agenda that I can trade for it. It really won me the league.
>>46864087
One thing, since I mentioned Bhagat, one of the reasons I started testing with him is
that, if you get really threatening with Gang Sign + HQI early enough in the game, some corps are just going to try and keep *nothing* of worth in HQ. And just waste minimal protection on it.
Bhagat gave me another angle of attack that still fit the original plan: corp makes R&D and scoring remote mad expensive to run? Well, HQ lets me hurt R&D too... Trash that top card I know I'll want through Archives, or I don't want the corp to draw, make it draw, giving me a chance to access something the corp couldn't have know would be there.
It's too bad, because, I *really* like the idea of Fisk. One of the IDs I've been most enthused about if only because of how different it is from the rest...
Finding the right pieces though? Tough job.
Do Jesminder and Qiuanju PT work with account siphon's two tags giving you no tags at all?
>>46864087
Oh, and I get you on Maya + R&DI.
Thing is, with the R&D snipping, you don't have to waste R&D runs - or at least not as many. And each piece of your rig is directly useful on its own., while Maya is a bit of a dud when it's the only piece you have. Which can still be worthwhile in some situations, but here, I don't know, I don't think it's worth it. Especially with it costing three influence.
That being said, you know, do test. Sometimes first hunches get disproved by experience.
>>46864742
I'm tired, but unless my brain is reaching over-addled territory, Jesminder and Quianju PT don't work together the same way having three Muresh Bodysuit installed cannot prevent three meat damage: only the first is prevented.
Same goes with the tag here.
>>46864790
Oh, I know the wonders of R&D snipe. I play Iain as my main Runner. Letting my credits pile up effortlessly while surveying R&D to go in and developing my rig with The Supplier.
>>46864742
>>46864856
I confirm.
>>46864935
>>46864790
Stupid Useless, useless bike.
>>46864935
I really need to do that. Been wanting to build some Stirling again for a while. Too many things to test.
>>46865011
All is not lost! Add Gene Condition Shoppe to your Pancake build and now on top of drawing two cards per turn, you get to prevent that first tag forever!
>>46864967
You ever see people riding a bike in India?
No way you'd be able to avoid a tag like that, just rely on your connections Jasminder
>>46864967
As a matter of fact, I also tried the bike in my Iain deck, since I didn't want to lose all my connections to a random tag. I try a few ways to prevent these, the click was too high price, the decoys were a waste of deckspace most of the time, NACH+Film Critic proved to be the most flexible of all, I combined those with Forger for the extra link my underworld contacts needed.
>>46865214
Yeah, NACH in Stirling is very nice - I find NACH is a weirdly forgotten card around here.
Really been digging The Source + Film Critic in crim recently. Creates interesting mind games between you and the corp.
>>46865384
Now that you bring up The Source. I find weird that Criminals never got a tool such as that to stop FA tactics in their box. It would be huge for them to clot HQ like that. Instead they got Donut Taganes to increase the cost of their operations, something I would deem anarch.
>>46865912
Something that weirds me out is that, when you look at the beginning of the game, econ taxation and control really seemed like it would be a crim thing first and foremost.
You had Forged Activation Order and Crecentus/Emergency Shutdown, Account Siphon, Cortez Chip,
Anarch had... Xanadu and Vamp.and Whizzard.
To the point that, when Reina was released, most of the cool toys you wanted to build with her where in Blue.
Fast Forward, and and most of the anti-econ cool toys are in orange now.
Blue got some new stuff, but it just can't compare I find.
>>46866158
I don't get why they made 2 separate abilities for the same effect, and then come up with an excuse to say they are different. I'm talking about Cortez Chip and Xanadu effects. Both effects increase the amount of credits the corp has to pay to rez.
Not even getting into the Vamp-Siphon because, as far as I'm concerned, Vamp feels very anarch in the way that it hurts both the runner and the corp.
Although then we have Bribery, a Vamp-like effect in the way that both must pay the same credits, but the Corp can decline to pay! It was such a let down. Forcing the Corp to rez the piece of ICE with the additional cost would have been incredibly interesting.
>>46866158
I guess they wanted it to be shared,in a similar way to the way recursion is between shaper and anarch?
>>46867273
Bribery allows for micro-targeted headlock. I've seen it played in Silhouette. Just pay 1-3 credits to put the ICE you've already exposed out of reach of the corp and go through, for less than it would have cost to break, if even you could. Not great. But playable. Used to play Cortez Chip like that with Reina in the very beginning to mass run R&D with Medium, since the chip lasts for a full turn.
Similar with Running Interference, only this one is more about getting once into that scoring super-server you haven't ran at for the whole of the game. Too big a gun really. Which is why I think they tried to introduce Bribery, as complement/correction.
Muertos Gang Member... I like it. It's not the strongest, but it's fairly interesting to play. Risky,but potentially very powerful.
Blackguard... that one hurt, so much potential. Been experimenting a bit again with recently it and I still just can't figure the right tempo for the deck.
>>46867712
Yeah, but the weird thing is, it was so much more a blue thing in the beginning. Really didn't expect the tables to turn that much.
>>46867917
Oh wow, I just realize that Muertos Gang Member let you ignore the rez costs, but that doesn't include additional costs. So MGM is a pretty good complement to Bribery, Cortez Chip, and Running Interference.
>>46868903
Okay, that's actually kind of cool
>Getting kicked from a twitch chatroom for calling Dan out on being a shithead like he always is.
I am so tired of the ANR community sucking that dudes cock, he is toxic as shit.
>>46869038
I played against someone good (calishima I think) on Jinteki - first I was using a Gagarin deck, but he just straight up said something along the lines of "I'm not wasting my time with a deck that shitty to play against" so I use a different deck - as I had been working on the Gagarin for a bit, the deck I was using hadn't been changed for a while, and I hadn't played it for a while.
Do you know what he played?
Fucking Noise.
While he was correct in saying he could probably beat me either way (I was like, srsly, you complain about my deck and play Noise?) I still think that's a bit dickish
>>46870171
He is constantly yelling shit like "play fucking better" on Jinteki.net and stuff even when he loses.
The dude is fucking worse than Alex Frog ever was. He has not even put anything relevant into the meta for ages and just complains when people try out new shit.
He is the cancer killing competitive netrunner.
>>46870171
>>46870363
Win a fucking world championship (OR FUCKING 2) like he did and then you can talk shit.
>>46870403
Better idea: Don't, because then you have to deal with the competitive shitheads.
>>46870171
>"I'm not wasting my time with a deck that shitty to play against"
"Well, you can fuck off then".
Seriously, whoever that was, that was really shitty thing to do. If true.
>>46868903
Nice catch.
>>46876177
His main issue was the time, but he was still a dick
>>46867917
Try Blackguard with Hacktivist Meeting. Wait no, they can decline paying additional costs.
Damn you Lukas.
>>46878241
Also Blackguard is far too expensive - people didn't play Monolith and Toolbox, and then they produce another 2-digit cost console.
Nexus may be annoying, but it's still a better design than Blackguard
>>46878301
Monolith is really interesting though.
Initially it costs 18 credits, it's huge credit swing, that's fair.
But Monolith let you install 3 programs reducing their costs by 4 credits.
So potentially we have a 6 credit console with 12 credits worth of programs on it.
On top of that, the install of the programs is clickless, so the console potential worth is:
12 credits of programs.
3 install clicks.
Which leaves us with a console worth of around 3 credits.
Of course, this doesn't really matter, you're still paying those programs, they are just included in the outrageous cost of the card.
Honestly, I'd just play Motivation+Eureka and fill the deck with programs to be ready to install whatever 3, then use Scavenge.
Maybe Oracle May filling the 1 influence slot.
>>46878462
Something like this, but not shit.
Identity
The Professor: Keeper of Knowledge (Creation and Control)
Event (12)
3x Diesel (Core Set)
3x Test Run (Cyber Exodus)
3x Scavenge (Creation and Control)
3x Eureka! (Second Thoughts)
Hardware (6)
3x Clone Chip (Creation and Control)
3x Monolith (Creation and Control)
Icebreaker (6)
1x Morning Star (What Lies Ahead) ••••
1x Femme Fatale (Core Set) •
1x Gingerbread (Honor and Profit) ••
1x Mongoose (Kala Ghoda) ••
1x Deus X (A Study in Static)
1x Cyber-Cypher (Creation and Control)
Program (12)
1x Datasucker (Core Set) •
1x Parasite (Core Set) ••
1x Keyhole (True Colors) •••
1x D4v1d (The Spaces Between) ••••
1x Trope (Old Hollywood) •••
1x Magnum Opus (Core Set)
2x Self-modifying Code (Creation and Control)
3x Panchatantra (Kala Ghoda)
1x Clot (The Valley) ••
Resource (10)
1x Oracle May (Honor and Profit) •
3x Motivation (Opening Moves)
3x Fan Site (Old Hollywood)
1x Film Critic (Old Hollywood)
2x Artist Colony (Kala Ghoda)
Total Cards: 46
Total Influence: 25 / -3
http://www.acoo.net
>>46853593
Question for you guys.
I am just now branching out from the starter decks. What is a generally accepted deck size? The instruction manual has some recommendations and currently my decks are sitting at 49 cards.
How many cards do most players use to make decks?
>>46879554
For Runners stick to the minimum. That way you always get the cards you need and not random cards and dead draws.
For Corps, You need 45-49 cards for 20-21 agenda points. Stick to the upper limit, this way there are less chances for the Runner to access an agenda out of R&D, or you getting agenda flooded. This is what we call reduce the agenda density of your deck.
>>46879554
>generally accepted deck size?
45 for runners (the minimum for most identities), 49 for corps (reducing agenda density).
>>46879554
Runners generally go for the minimum they can, or 1 or 2 above at max - it's not a hard and fast rule that you either go 45 or go home, as some very good players have proved.
Corps are a bit different, but they should almost always try for the max size in their agenda points bracket, so 49 for 20-21 points, though recently there has been a card introduced that promotes 50+ card decks, leading to 54 cards being popular as well - 3 copies of the card, an agenda and a bonus card.
>>46880008
>>46880071
>>46880268
Cool! Thanks for the advice, anons.
Runners seem straightforward enough. And all I'll need to remember with the Corp is to maximize my ratio of cards:agenda points.
>>46880413
>to maximize my ratio of cards:agenda points
Yes... and no.
The fewer agendas you have, the more each one matters - scored or stolen - and the more difficulty you'll have finding one when you want one. Bigger agendas make you safer, but are harder to use, and losing one to a random access hurts a lot.
>>46880603
So what you're saying is that I should get some Aggressive Secretaries. Gotcha.
>>46880744
I do love me some AggSecs. It's a pain that recursion exists but, it's still tempo loss.
Any anons out there familiar with 3D printed tokens and whatnot for Netrunner?
Are there any recommendations?
>>46870171
if you were playing a competitive asset spam deck in the casual room, you deserve it
>>46880934
>casual room
I don't think these words mean what you think they mean.
>>46880924
I like using poker chips. No acrilic set feels the same.
>>46881014
>>46881026
Top 16 Regionals 2015
>>46880934
>competitive asset spam
Hardly. For a start it's not IG, no bio-ethics, genetics pavilion shock bullshit.
Here's the list:
Gagarin Deep Space: Expanding the Horizon
54 cards
Influence: 15/15 ●●●●●●●●●●●●●●●
Agenda points: 23
Tournament legal
Agenda (10)
3 Hollywood Renovation
2 New Construction
3 Oaktown Renovation
2 Project Atlas
Asset (25)
3 Commercial Bankers Group
2 Daily Business Show ●●
2 Encryption Protocol ●●
2 GRNDL Refinery
3 Jackson Howard ●●●
1 Lakshmi Smartfabrics ●●●
2 Mumba Temple ●●●●
2 Mumbad Construction Co.
2 Museum of History ●●●●
2 Public Support
1 Team Sponsorship ●
3 Turtlebacks ●●●
ICE (13)
2 Dracō
2 Enigma
1 Fire Wall
2 Ice Wall
1 Swordsman ●
3 Tour Guide
2 Wormhole
Operation (6)
3 Dedication Ceremony
3 Diversified Portfolio
And it's a known tourney-winner, why would I not bring my cheesiest deck out to give me the better chance?
>>46880744
What I'm saying is you can get 18 points in 4 cards, but that doesn't mean you should (at least not without a solid plan, an several good backup plans)
>>46880771
I haven't done AggSec, maybe I'll try and do an uncorrodable with it
>>46853593
bump
Somebody asked for this in the last thread.
>>46854529
>>46854875
>>46855021
>>46855215
London Library, anyone? Hayley is going to be brutal with this one, and I'm looking forward to reworking my chameleon/LL deck to break out the Brahman.
>>46881078
Took a similar list to a Regional yesterday, though I'm running all public agendas to score out of hand and different assets. Went 3-3, with 2 losses due to 8 points off of R&D. Absolutely loving the asset spam out of it.
Why Lakshmi?
Pic related was easily the MVP of the day. Only one opponent actually went to trash it whenever it came out. I love grabbing 6 credits a turn due to ignorant runners.
Tips for Bioroids?
>>46889984
The whole point of bioroids is based on the assumption that clicks are more valuable than credits. Taking away clicks, or making the runner spend them, means he has less time to develop his rig, gain credits, draw cards, remove tags, or run again.
So capitalize on that, make it so spending clicks is desirable over spending credits, and then punish him for it.
>>46891269
lol this community
I think Capstone is even less played than Force of Nature.
>>46892083
True as far as I'm concerned. And even then I think I'm one of the only two persons I know that actually played Capstone.
In the category rookie mistake but I regret nothing: faceplant into Next Gold x2 via The Twins. Cute death of the day.
Since we're talking unloved cards...
So, in the light of WotC assassinating Pro Magic, do you think FFG will try to pick up the slack?
>>46894744
Must have missed something among the seas of drrama, what did WotC do?
>>46894916
Cut down Platinum Pro attendence fees by 90%
Basically, Top Pros got payed a decent buck for showing up to big events. Now payment is shit for the time you have to put into it to reach that status.
>>46894971
Tempest in a teapot for us, I'd say. Hell, not only I think FFG won't pick up the slack given its history, I hope it won't.
>>46895033
Well I think more players is always nice. I just wondered if FFG might try to snatch up the High Profile Paper Pro Scene by offering greater pro support.
>>46895226
Highly unlikely. It simply doesn't fit into FFGs plans.
>>46894338
It is the nichest of cards. This is how I see it.
Anarchs have Paige to reduce dead draws from your deck by eliminating multiplicity.
Capstone does the same. It swaps any multiples in your grip for new draws.
Criminals have Mr. Li to improve the draw by sending 1 card to the bottom and 1 to your grip.
But where these cost 0, 2, 3 credits, angel arena is X, essentially you pay X to look at the next X cards, if you don't want it, send it under, if you like it, draw it. How useful it is to spend X is hard to say, since I've never seen it in play before.
>>46898987
best agenda
>>46899463
One day... one day we'll know what they were thinking when they designed this.
And when we understand... our mind will be blown by the awesome we missed all this time.
>>46889984
Bioroid decks? I have had a good deal of success with this pretty basic Bioroid deck.
But there are definitely people here that are much better than me, so I hope they'll tell me why this deck sucks and how I can fix it. :3
Haas-Bioroid: Engineering the Future
49 cards
Influence: 15/15 ●●●●●●●●●●●●●●●
Agenda points: 21
Tournament legal
Agenda (9)
3 Priority Requisition
3 Private Security Force
3 Accelerated Beta Test
Asset (9)
2 Melange Mining Corp.
2 Aggressive Secretary
2 Pad Campaign
3 Adonis Campaign
ICE (16)
1 Wall of Static
2 Hunter
2 Rototurret
3 Enigma
2 Viktor 1.0
3 Ichi 1.0
2 Heimdall 1.0
1 Hadrian's Wall ●●●
Operation (10)
2 Biotic Labor
2 Hedge Fund
1 Shipment from MirrorMorph
1 Archived Memories
1 Scorched Earth ●●●●
1 Shipment from Kaguya ●
1 Anonymous Tip ●
1 Closed Accounts ●
Upgrade (5)
2 Experiential Data
2 Red Herring ●●●●
1 Research Station ●
>>46899687
I can tell you. It's meant to be played with Docklands Crackdown and IT Department more than anything. But mostly for Docklands.
You see how Docklands is 2 clicks to add a counter? That means the Helium-3 deposit is worth 4 clicks with that card rezzed.
More recently, it helps Quicksands and Lakshmi Smartfabrics.
Still pretty underwhelming and niche, I know.
>>46899866
I played H3 + Dockland in Gagarin, was fun, still didn't make me pierce the biggest mystery of all: why is that agenda in Weyland instead of being neutral?
>>46899781
Why Shipment from Kaguya?
Since no ICE benefit from it I'm guessing you're playing it for Install, Install, advance both cards... but given your very limited selection of ambushes, how often do you plan on that to happen?
Oh, and welcome to the game I guess.
>>46899781
You know what I like about Bioroid decks? Tags.
I know it sounds absurd, but think about it. Either the Runner spends extra credits to break through the Bioroids, or he spends clicks. Either way he will be too broke to remove the Ghost Branch tags, or you can SEA Source him next turn.
That's why I love Custom Biotics, even when nobody else thinks is cool to have 3 Scorched Earth, 3 Ghost Branchs, 3 Jacksons.
>>46900106
Kaguya doesn't come up too often, but when it does it is worth it. Otherwise though I try to drain the Runner's resources by playing the shell game with my AggSec and lots of ICE. It usually occurs once per game, sometimes more. But once is usually enough to give me control of momentum and force the Runner to respond.
>>46900279
Originally I had more Scorched Earth cards as well as better tagging ability. I've just had poor luck with that strategy so I retooled the deck.
My card selection is limited to the Android: Netrunner box. I haven't gotten any of the subsequent releases yet. But maybe next paycheck I will.
>>46900404
lol every community ever
>>46887732
>Why Lakshmi?
It's really nice for scoring windows when you haven't got counters on MCC, or are getting flooded - put a public out naked and as long as you have a one or two other unrezzed assets it'll be fine.
Can also be used during HQ runs, so accesses can be much less useful.
And it's really nice when the agenda is New Construction, which you use to play out Smartfabrics and your other asset.
Film Critic works against it though
>>46903366
That this little beast of a card never enabled the Leviathan meta is disheartening.
>>46900404
>Fixes the meta
>All but requires people to play Archives Interface and Scrubbers/Whizzard
I can't fucking wait for Kowloon cycle.
>>46904525
That is how LCGs work. 1 deck owns the entire game till someone finds a counter for it. Game of Thrones was like this for ages till they rebooted it.
>>46904566
Didn't that place get torn down years ago?
>>46904927
It will forever live in the hearts of the Cyberpunks.
Is Archangel OP? It's like a mini-Leela for Corps. Strong trace, high strength, just 4 credits to rez. A pain either way. It's like a Tollbooth for half the price, plus can be used as Wendigo to "snipe" icebreakers so the Runner can't break the next piece.
Hey anons, I have a question for you all about what to buy.
I have the Android: Netrunner box. I'd like to have the entire set of cards eventually. If I continue to buy every one of the bigger box sets that have been released will I eventually have all the cards? Or are there smaller packs that contain things I will have missed?
How should I go about getting the entire set of Netrunner cards?
>>46906609
The deluxe boxes and the datapacks contain different sets of cards. So yeah, you'd need to buy:
>4 Deluxe boxes
Creation and Control, Honor and Profit, Order and Chaos, Data and Destiny
>5 datapack cycles, with 6 datapacks for each cycle.
Genesis cycle, Spin cycle, Lunar cycle, SanSan cycle, Mumbad cycle.
>Between 1 and 3 core boxes
Depending on how much you want to have the complete playset of each card.
I recommend starting with the deluxe boxes. They are awesome.
>>46906802
Okay that sounds good. I'll work on getting the bigger boxes first.
Is there any way to buy the neutral cards in a pack? I only have the one set which locks me into two active decks at any time. I'd love to make more decks.
>>46906165
Yes, yes it is OP, and not for only the reasosn you listed.
My main beef with archangel is that one of the only real strategies against FA is multi-access on R&D and this thing almost more than any other trap punishes multi-access.
>>46906926
I bought the second core set almost immediately. It not only allow me to have 4 decks at the same time. I also got full playset of all the cards that only included 2 cards in the box, and 2 cards for all the singles.
You could check ebay to see if somebody is selling the neutrals, but you're better off by buying a second core set or checking is somebody is selling his cardpool in your area.
>>46907364
Awesome. Thank you for the info, anon.
>>46903366
I really like how interesting the card is. It raises the bar for how many credits the Runner needs to pass the ICE, but in doing so the actual tax is that of a regular Enigma. Probably the most interesting ICE design-wise in the entire cardpool. Even with funny types like Morph and Deflectors.
>>46908819
I like cards with drawbacks in general. I understand why they're not popular, hard enough to win without arming the other side, but they make for interesting situations.
>>46910012
How many cards like that are there?
Celebrity Gift
Medical Research Fundraiser
Little Engine
Mental Health Clinic
Palana Agroplex
What else?
>>46910439
Everything with BP
>go to md v. va tournament yesterday, teams of 10
>four rounds of swiss, go 3-5
>haven't played in nearly a year and didn't know any of cards from mumbad cycle
So does anyone else consider Minions a real deck? I played it an went 2-2 but the losses were a one point loss each time.
>>46910439
Let's add: the directives, Activist Support, Joshua B, the cards with mandatory click loss at the beginning of the turn, Cybernetics to a point, Drug Dealer, Muertos Gang Member, Trimaf Contact, Rolodex, Stim Dealer, Donut Taganes, Corporate War, the 5-influence Executives, as mentioned BP cards - NAPD Contratcs and Vulcan Coverup - Server Diagnostics, Worlds Plaza in a way I guess...
I'm certainly forgetting some. Akshara Sareen?
>>46911953
If we are adding the runner cards we are missing an important one: Stimhack.
Guys, I was tinkering with my Fisk-Maya deck, making preparations for tomorrow games, and then I realize. Dorm Computer + Maya to avoid the tag. 4 runs. For 0 credits.
But, I was wrong when I thought that Masanori + Dorm worked, so I'm asking if I'm right with this.
>>46913728
Masanori + Dorm Computer doesn't work for the same reason Masanori + Sareen doesn't work: look at the time structure of a run: it *ends* at 5. It is considered unsuccessful *after* the run has ended, at 6. Tags taken when a run is declared unsuccessful cannot be prevent by effects that prevent tags *during* a run.
>>46913728
By which I mean, yup Dorm Computer + Maya works. Good catch. Interested in seeing how this goes.
>>46913153
STIMHACK NATION REPORTING IN
>>46914658
>yfw your opponent plays stimhack while you are rocking a research station, servers are iced up, and you only need to score one more agenda
How does Jeeves work?
Is it Melange/Purge only?
If Leela steals an agenda her first access from a legwork/HQ interface, does the player bounce an unrezzed corp card at that time or after accessing?
>>46916054
I think it's at the time, but I wouldn't say for definite that that's the case
>>46916054
By the rule of cascade triggers, she bounces a card, then access the next card.
>>46915040
Purge only, "action" means the normal actions avaliable to a player, the wording is just in case they need to introduce more actions in a later set and they want this to work with them too.
At the moment its only for purges
>>46918789
Not the other anon, but that'd be unfortunate, my interpretation was that it would also trigger if you did the same action 3 times, eg. "1, 2, 3 clicks, gain credit, extra click from jeeves, last click install".
>>46919268
we have no confirmation on this yet, we have to wait for the release of Salsette to get the UFAQ on ANCUR.
>>46922091
nice
Have we ever been told exactly what it was that Nasir found and accidentally released on Heinlein? I've heard some speculation that it was Apex, but I can't find a source. (sorry if this is a super old question, I'm just now getting around to reading those story inserts)
>>46924555
There hasn't been any definitive answer. I think FFG is being smart in doing that. A bit of a mystery is more interesting.
The main theory though is that Apex was somewhere within that code Nasir brought back.
Whether it was the whole of it, or just some hyper virus in there and the rest of the data is lot and devoured, or yet to be liberated again makes for interesting potential future events.
>>46924555
It's not explained, but there's suggestion that it could be the original code for the Net (which would mean it's something NBN wrote) or an old military version of the net - possibly even something pre-Blackout
It's certainly possible that apex could be in there somewhere though
So besides being unfun to play against, IG museum don't have any way to win besides killing the runner right?
>>46927068
Well, they can score agendas the usual way. If the runner isn't running.
>>46927068
Kills get surprisingly easier when you combine Bio-Ethics, Genetics Pavilion and Chairman Hiro
>>46900404
Source on art?
>>46854529
...Brahmasaurus? Or Personal Touch, Net Ready Eyes?
That 2c/STR is rough considering how many 4 STR pieces of ice there are.
David is an expensive recur target but it's definitely a good combo. We spending Saharsara credits to bring these programs back then? Paricia recursion for Tech Writer credits seems like a legit thing too.
I don't want to play Whizzard but I sure as hell need to trash annoying assets in this asset-spam meta.
/anrg/, what corp should I build next? IDs or cards ok for suggestion. Currently running Gagarin asset spam, Adam Faust, and Geist Spy Cameras.
>>46927834
Shadowrun Hong Kong
>>46927975
How about adding it in as a catch-all breaker in Hayley Chameleon decks? Just bounce the Chameleons a phase earlier.
>>46927975
>Net Ready Eyes
Definitely NRE, but Dinosaurus is not awful either. You can choose Brahman as your target after you use it.
It basically means you can install Brahman on London Library, use it to break a piece of ICE, and then put it back on top of your stack without spending a cent.
Oh boy, the meta is going to love this card.
>>46928128
As a Weyland player I absolutely fucking love Chameleon Hayley decks
>>46928001
Weyland BABW
>>46928182
>Net Ready Eyes
I really like that, shame the rest of the cybernetics are meh - I've tried to go as cyborg as I can in a not very sensible deck: I've got a skulljack (surprisingly useful in this meta), net-ready eyes, a brain cage, a spinal modem, cyberfeeders and e3 implants (so the only think I'm missing would be ribs) but it just doesn't work out very well, which makes me sad.
Recurring credits are nice though
>>46928001
Currently running:
Fisk with the following combos
>Gingerbread+Panchatantra
>Maya+Dorm Computer
It performed poorly in tonight games. Definitely needs more draw, but it was only my first night with it.
Honestly, I think the deck would be better out of Ken.
High Stakes Job is awesome.
GRNDL Rush, with IT Department for fun.
>Power Shutdown
>Scorched
>3x Ireress
>Grims and Archers
It's hilarious when I turn 5-6 bad publicity into a credit drain for 0 credits. It's like weaponizing bad publicity. Thank god nobody plays Yog anymore.
>>46928426
I used Brain cage, Titanium Ribs, and NRE for my Faust decks. I used Titanium Ribs to target I've had worse in my hand when I install both cybernetics. Plus, choosing what I lose to net damage is always nice. The Brain Cage was basically an untrashable Public Sympathy, playing Faust with 9 cards was pretty comfy. Not as comfy as my 15 cards grip Nasir deck, but nice.
>>46929913
I think the biggest problem I had was the set up time and cost, especially as the extra stuff is all anarch - it feels a bit like big rig shaper, but I'm not very good at that (anyone got any tips?).
Does feel pretty rad when you've got everything though, shame the corp's often half way to winning
>>46931029
The big thing about playing big rig is that they need to optimize their tempo, while still keeping the pressure. It's why Hayley is so good at it, she plays 2 clicks for one, literally halving the time she needs to set up.
The rest of the Runners are not so lucky, they need either extra draw to sped it up, or tutors to avoid drawing.
If you need to click for draw, click for MO/Armitage, and still have to run every turn to keep a lock. You're losing tempo everywhere and inevitably will fall behind.
For this reason I don't feel comfortable with Chatterjee University. You have to install and click 3 times to get a discount of 3 credits. That's a lot of tempo loss. The good thing is that next turn you can click to add a token, click to install a 4 credits card free. And you need to do that a lot to come up on top. 2 clicks, 4credits+install. I haven't done the maths yet, but I wonder how close it is to Magnum Opus.
On what do you spend your last point of influence?
Stimhack?
Datasucker?
Film Critic?
Political Operative?
Employee Strike?
>>46931029
I played a thematic cybernetic deck, and I really enjoyed it, it's cool the small synergy between Brain Cage and Titanium Ribs - and I've Had Worse.
Clearly meant to be made in Anarch, even discounting Chrome Parlor (I think Faust also, was meant as an enabler, allowing you to get read of superfluous copies). Too bad about Skulljack in all probability having been nerfed into oblivion (at least you get to deprive the corp of one credit in case of Product Recall) - that or maybe there's an upcoming card that only target assets/upgrades below a certain trash cost I guess...
Sorry I don't have any tip, was just a pure jank build I made. You need that genetic draw though.
>>46928458
What was the issue with that Fisk deck? Too slow to get the pieces in place?
I HAVE NEVER PLAYED THIS GAME BUT I LIKE MAGIC AND I LOVE CYBERPUNK, IS IT GOOD AND HOW DO I START?
SORRY NOT SORRY FOR YELLING.
>>46932984
1. Best card game ever made, or at least around right now.
2. Buy the Core Set, and try to rope a friend into playing it with you.
>>46932984
It's good. Or so I think, check the OP, should be everything you need to get started.
Rules are on FFG's site, there 's a link to a video tutorial, and you can start playing the game ASAP via Jinteki.net if you're that eager to give it a try.
>>46932617
One of the shards.
>Get into Netrunner with a friend
>Order/Chaos is on sale at the store so I pick it up before I even knowing what I'm doing
>Look at core, like the Anarch faction
>Look at Order Chaos, ton of support for Viruses
>Love Hivemind
>Do some reading, people hate "Noise Solitaire"
I just started and apparently the deck I want to make is hated by the community. Is it worth it to make the deck or will I be greeted with a moan whenever I sit down pull Noise out? Are viruses/Anarchs good outside of Noise?
>>46927975
As a newbie, I wonder how did the asset spam meta came about. I don't follow the meta at all, but only after lurking for a bit did I realize I also made an asset spam deck using Argus, so I'm curious to how that could happen.
>>46934938
Depends on you play it. Noise "Solitaire" is disliked because, as the name implies, the purpose is to interact as little as possible with the other player.
You can play some Noise virus-heavy decks that are just fine though.
>>46935082
Thing is, for an Asset-heavy meta, you needed the assets. Since you've build in Argus, just look at the assets Weyland had just before Order & Chaos was released.
I am bit in a flunk as a Runner. I really enjoy shaper but none of the currently popular decks look like fun for me to play and my own builds lack aggression to keep up with rush decks.
>>46938670
Have you tried Spags Hayley? Top Tier Shaper Bullshit. It's almost Cathartic
>>46932738
Yes, for the most part. Didn't see Panchatantra in the whole game. Added Mr. Li to filter the draw over pure draw from Earthrise hotel. Let's see how it goes. I had to put pressure using central breakers and Emergency Shutdown/Inside Job.
>>46935082
>how did the asset spam meta came about
It's slowly developed, but it starts with NBN's ID Near Earth Hub, in lunar cycle, which typically became the "default" NBN ID because though NBN's ID abilities are weak NEH has extra influence.
NEH rewards you for making lots of servers.
Later in the cycle you get Jinteki's Industrial Genomics, possibly the best ID for the archetype, and Hostile Infrastructure, both of which makes trashing cards hard for the runner.
Industrial Genomics was accompanied by Turtlebacks (which the art totally messed up, but I digress), which gives you money for making new servers
Split over packs there's other support for the archetype - Gagarin gives Weyland an ID for it, Diversified Portfolio makes you money from lots of servers, Team Sponsorship brings trashed assets back - it gradually became a part of the meta, with 3 IDs and cards that support it.
But it's really taken off in Mumbad due to the shear number of good assets available, which has been a bigger portion of the card pool in this cycle.
The best of these is probably Museum of History, which gives the corp mad levels of recursion, making games a lot longer and tougher
That's one big bit, but it's not just corp cards that are the reason for spam; the other reason is that, by the start of the Mumbad cycle, ice was not in a good place - the meta was dominated by a style of deck that uses a ton of ice destruction (one of the reasons I'm still glad that Museum is a thing), so outside of a few decks, forting up with tons of ice wasn't all that viable.
Asset spam decks don't rely too much on ice, which made them very strong - they care very little about a large portion of the opponent's deck, and are difficult to deal with if allowed to pick up speed
>>46934938
There's a difference between "playing with viruses and virus support" and "Noise solitaire" - the latter never really intends to run, just mill by constantly installing and recurring viruses, which sucks for the corp
>>46932984
Watch the intro videos and stuff in the OP
Look at some resources on the basics.
Play on Jinteki.net with "first time player" in the game title
>>46939112
Ahh, that's interesting that it came about due to a wide selection of assets from the most recent cycle instead of as a reaction to a common runner playstyle. What's the appropriate counter then, beyond getting ahead in credits over the corp to comfortably trash any assets that pop up?
>>46939374
Hit centrals, Keyhole, Apocalypse.
>>46939374
No 2 decks are the same, even if both deal with Asset Spam.
NEH uses FA tactics, which means you need to target their R&D to lock them out, which btw, is impossible as long as a Museum is rezzed.
Butchershop combines FA with tag'n'bag. So you need to be particulary wary. This got even better with 24/7 news cycle.
IG used a stick and stick strategy when it come to his. You had shocks and Shi-Kyu in archives, plus ambushes in the remotes. You could try to ignore both and just target R&D, but Ronin can get you that way.
Nobody really knows what's going on with Gagarin, I haven't seen an stablished archetype for it, although not for lack of trying.
>>46939480
Gagarin has Tour Guides.
>>46939374
It's a good time to be anarch - Whizzard rules the meta with a power glove, and scrubbers (and the program Paricia) have become a common slot these days (skulljack, in theory, could also help, decreasing the trash of everything you trash, but you have to hit 3 trashables per turn)
Imp is also a good choice - doesn't matter if IG makes museum have a trash cost of 12, it's all the same to Imp, and the inevitable purge next turn will be a nice tempo boost for you.
Currents, specifically Hactavist Meeting (stops them getting use out of unrezzed assets, though less good against IG, who is quite happy to trash their own cards) and the fantastic Employee Strike (more generally useful, can be devastating to certain IDs, of which IG is one) are in.
If you're going to use Strike, I'd recommend having enough money to trash some key assets before you drop it and go for a power turn - get them in the bin before a corp current or agenda can be scored. I've been caught out by not doing this, playing as soon as I got it, happy that all the employees would stay on strike while I gathered some cash
Digging centrals is a big help, though museum can be a double edged sword there, and against IG protection will be necessary.
Clot is a big help against NBN fast advance, and it helps if you can't trash Mumbad Construction Co right away - IG is unlikely to fast advance though
Might pic related be a pretty good answer to bio-ethics in shaper?
I'm thinking if you put a few in a deck it might be good, but the specificity of the match up would be a concern
>>46942061
Netshield might help. Omnidrive to pay it, unnecessary.
What I'd do in shaper:
Escher, put Cricks where Hive are, play Hunting Grounds/Mongoose/ Femme in case of Komainu. Indexing. Probably Film Critic to avoid the Psi game.
>>46942376
>Probably Film Critic to avoid the Psi game.
The amount of times I forget Critic...
Quite often I'll have NACH out as well, to make it worse
I will pay $100 to anyone who can post definitive proof that there is a new cycle coming after Mumbad.
>>46946145
Add at least one zero to that and maybe I'd consider it
>>46946350
Not only one zero, I'm going to add two.
$100.00, go
>>46946350
I would consider that if you posted anything that would make me believe you actually had proof.
>>46946469
I am jakodrako and I edit Netrunner cards
>>46897918
I played Angel Arena in a Noise deck once, before bullshitcakes. All of your examples listed take extra clicks to help you find shit. A massive 8 counter Angel Arena let's you dig 8 deep. It's usually mid-late game when that happens, so you've likely drawn a bunch already. You then filter the next third of what remains for that 1x you want but haven't seen yet. Keep the last counter on for savings and pawn that place off.
>>46946560
If my Mr. Li idea doesn't work to find those Panchatantra early, I'm definitely going to try this. The jankest of decks.
What deck is most similar to Prepaid Kate?
I don't really like any of the meta decks at the moment, Anarch is boring as shit
>>46948350
>Anarch is boring
>wants a PPVPKate clone
What am I reading
>>46948378
Reina Headlock was the only interesting Anarch deck, everything else is a boring mess
>>46948440
Nothing is more boring and straightforward PPVP Kate though.
>plop down PVPP
>play Legwork/Maker's Eye with SMC on the board
that's terrifying bland
>>46948350
If you're looking for shaper BS with clone chips/SMC to install what you need:
Hayley Pitchfork
>>46946145
Why would there not be - handing a game over to a new lead only to terminate it before he can work - given Mumbad was Lukas's last work on the game - makes no sense
>>46951807
Why the fuck are you able to include an Adam deck with 4 copies of directives, when the Big box only included 3 of each.
Can't they errata Adam to say that the 3 directives dont count towards your deck limit but DO count towards total copies of cards?
>>46946145
>>46946469
They've confirmed there will be a rotation, can't be a rotation if they don't release new cards.
DEFINITIVE.
>>46953859
The rotation is Netrunner dying and getting replaced by L5R
>>46951769
>>46941192
Wow, never realised from the small cards how phoned in that piece of art is....
>>46959549
How phoned?
>>46946542
Given that it's you I'd slip you $1000, but I'm fairly certain you wouldn't even consider that, given your love for what you do.
Are there any viable Reina decks?
Also what's CT like at the moment, what does she excell at?
>>46956684I wish.
>>46962468
>Are there any viable Reina decks?
Well... all of them are viable. Some more than the others. None of them are very effective against flavour of the month.
>Also what's CT like at the moment, what does she excell at?
Watching last week Regionals I picked up this deck that blew my mind
https://netrunnerdb.com/en/decklist/34243/art-thief
How do yall feel about the over representation of core identities in the competitive environment?
my local meta uses very few identities in total and over half of them come from the core box. I would rather have a tiny bit of power creep than this many still born identities.
>>46963610
Overrepresentation of core identities?
http://www.acoo.net/anr-tournament/1164/durham-nc-2016-regionals/
Top 8, 2 Noise, 1 HB
http://www.acoo.net/anr-tournament/1143/california-regionals-2016/
Top 8, 1 Noise, 1 Kate, 2 HB
http://www.acoo.net/anr-tournament/1163/hackaholics-regional/
Top 8, Literally 0 core IDs
>>46963895
How do I make a good deck with Santiago?
>>46955247
Does this stack with Red Herring?
>>46964513
wait for the meta to shift
How do people feel about bioroid the deck?
my playgroup is tiny and its been working well so far but theres no tricks other than going from 45-47 cards just to fit in 2 caprice because I had the left over influence.
>>46964622
I don't even know what the meta is. My friends and I just like to play Netrunner. :3
>>46964649
Bioroid plays a mean shell game if you are into traps. You just suck the life out of Runners. They blow all their money getting through your ICE, only to get fucked.
>>46964697
>if you are into traps
sempai nooooo
>>46964751
It... is too late for me, anon.
>>46964649
Corp decks should be 49 cards to lower that agenda density. Those extra cards make it less like that the runner randomly accesses an agenda.
>>46964840
I agree with you. But for the sake of argument, I'll add this as well for >>46964649.
There has been success with Corp decks above that size. It's worth experimenting with for sure, but as the size of the Corp deck increases you really need to make sure your strategy is sound because, as anon said, a Runner may be able to nip agendas from you quickly.
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Salsette Island is now on sale
https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2016/4/28/make-an-entrance/
More importantly, the UOFAQ is out
http://ancur.wikia.com/wiki/Salsette_Island_UFAQ
Now we know the rulings for Stock Exchange and Jeeves
Stock Exchange
>Neutral cards do not belong to a faction, so they are out-of-faction cards for every Corp.
Firstly
>All three of the clicks must be spent while Jeeves Model Bioroids is active in order for its ability to trigger. Rezzing Jeeves Model Bioroids just before spending the third click is not enough for its ability to trigger.
But what we all want to know:
>Advance three different cards: Yes.
>Install a piece of Ice, an Asset, and an Upgrade: Yes.
>Use a copy of Marked Accounts three times: Yes.
>Use 3 different copies of Marked Accounts: No.
>Purge virus counters: Yes.
>Use Melange Mining Corp.: Yes.
>Play Biotic Labor, then play Shipment from SanSan: Yes.
So any 3 clicks spent on operations, played normally, is good, no matter how many operations are played with said clicks
>Use Mumbad City Hall to search for and install Mumba Temple and Museum of History, then use it to search for and play Heritage Committee: Yes.
>Use Mumbad City Hall to search for and play Salem’s Hospitality, then play 2 Neural EMPs: No.
That 5 trash cost looks pretty harsh right about now
Something more can be done with this, I'm sure
>>46969325
>any 3 clicks spent on operations, played normally
Damn now I'm going to be trying to fit Jeeves in Weyland, or maybe use Custom Biotics to pull off SEA triple Scorch.
Who knew butlers were so useful?
>>46971107
>Who knew butlers were so useful?Batman
>>46969501
That guy to the left...do my eyes deceive me or is that the Jackson suit? Yes, it's perfectly reasonable that other people use this style. Yes, that's secretly Jackson with the NBN makeup crew's handiwork on his face.
>>46971107
I'm not sure, let's ask Jeeves.
Any word on Salsette Slums? This strikes me as a simple way to stick it to museum of history. That said, I can't wait to see what IG comes up with to counter.
>>46938926
Reporting back.
Mr. Li did a pretty good job. Not only finding panchatantras, but also emergency shutdowns and account siphons when I need them.
Funny story, at one point I had to choose between Maya and Siphon. I picked Siphon.
Next turn I had to choose between the second copy of Maya, or the only R&D interface.
Mr. Li problems.
That said, I didn't use Fisk for these games. I bought Democracy and Dogma and wanted to try Nero right away. Fits like a glove. The Runner is just pure aggression. Fearless.
>>46971722
>That said, I can't wait to see what IG comes up with to counter.
They called up one of Salsette Island's Executive Search Firms and found an answer.
See the slums are a location...
>>46972158
They might get Executive Search Firm for free because alliance, but their influence is pretty tight. How do they include the 2 influence for her?
>>46914717
Stimhack topdeck on zero creds, second to last click right, after your opponent promises it's game over.
Best feeling ever.
>>46969325
So with Jeeves on the board, install, subliminal, shipment from Sansan lets you fast advance a 3/2 from 0 credits.
>>46951867
I was wondering this too, you think they couldve put an extra of each in otherwise. Sorta defeats the idea of the expansions
>>46973295
Subliminal FA meta
>>46973295
As if Headlock needed to be kicked down even more
>>46969325
Mumbad Virtual Tour is also pretty neat.
>If the Runner does not have 5Credit but has an installed Imp that they haven’t used yet, is the Runner forced to use the Imp to trash Mumbad Virtual Tour?
>Yes. The Runner is able to trash Mumbad Virtual Tour, so they must do so.
>If the Runner has only 2Credit but a full Ghost Runner installed, is the Runner forced to spend the credits from Ghost Runner to trash Mumbad Virtual Tour?
>Yes. The Runner is able to trash Mumbad Virtual Tour, so they must do so.
Could be a good method to force runners to waste their resources, unless they're filthy rich.
>>46975599
Yeah, its pretty good. Its basically a credit snare. More restrictive, since the runner has to have the resources, but its stackable, free to activate, and combos with cost raising (Hostile Infrastructure). Ironically, I'm not sure how well it will work in Genomics. The cost to trash can easily get high enough that it won't fire.
>>46975015
The solution is simple, just run every turn. Unprotected assets will also hurt the combo, which is at least partly self balancing, since Jeeves probably should stand on its own.
>>46976068
You could also probably combine it with any "pay to steal agenda" card and make it so the runner doesn't have enough credits to steal.
On a side note, how do you use upgrades? I'm having a hard time including them in my corp deck since they're usually easily trashable and most often just a one-off thing.
>>46973295
That's pretty neat - I can think of a fair few turns where I would play 2 ops, but 3 would be a push. Subliminal is great for that
>>46964538
Yes.
>>46964513
I want to believe it would be something like Pheromones/Sneakdoor, Emergency Shutdown, Siphons/Vamp, and Nerve Agent. With enough Nerve Agent tokens you could use Fisk Investment Seminar to access the whole hand, plus these new cards.
What are the best reasons to run criminal as a faction?
>>46981281
You like, and feel comfortable, playing Criminal.
>>46973295
But the click spent as an additional cost to play Shipment from Sansan doesn't counts as a click for Jeeves, right?
>>46981588
Why wouldn't? You spent both clicks to play the card.
>>46981588
It does, that was specifically addressed
>>46969325
>Biotic Labor, then play Shipment from SanSan: Yes
The UFAQ doesn't say you have to play a third operation, so we can assume the 2nd click in a double counts
My inside sources have confirmed to me the only release we will see from Fear the Masses to Worlds will be the Champion Decks. Champion Decks will release at Gencon then there will be nothing till the first pack of the 6th cycle will release at Worlds.
Most of the Netrunner team is working on L5R. It sounds like L5R is in design hell and they are trying to have something to show at Gencon. All their top designers are spending most their time working on it so the other LCGs are on the back burner.
So enjoy the next 7 months of IG meta.
>>46982854
please be a troll....
>>46982854
>inb4 slumlords everywhere
>time for operations (and by extension Kim) to shine!
>>46982854
That is... depressingly reasonable - I've seen people muttering that about now is the time a new Deluxe would be announced - by all indications there isn't going to be one, at least not immediately, so the only new thing before the next cycle would be the World Champ decks (still cool, dat full bleed, etc, but not on the same level)
New cycles need big publicity, so a Worlds release wouldn't exactly be surprising, and wanting to lauch/give a big preview of L5R for Gencon does make sense.
IG meta, I don't know, Slums stacks, so it's certainly not as invulnerable as it was pre-Salsette (enjoy that anarch dominance though)
>>46983323
>anarch dominance
I honestly forget there are other runner factions some times.
>>46982854
Usually when I read about inside sources, predictions, and shit like that, I call it bullshit and move on.
But that sounds so much like something FFG would do that I just can't. And that we will have 7 months to figure out how to get rid of IG meta.
So what do we do. How do we kill IG. Is Slums enough?
>>46983323
Slums help but it is still an econ race. If anything this just rises the value of Dumblefork since you want to spend all your credits removing cards from the game.
>>46983323
L5R is not coming out till 2017 Gencon but I can see them doing a preview this year.
>>46980827
Awesome!
>>46983298
Well there are a few cool operations coming up - Latteral Growth is cool, especially with Stock Exchange in Core Weyland, and I really want to see if Subcontract will be worth it, and even if it is 3 IDs in Liberated Mind there's still space for some criminal tricks, and Weyland - who's ops are generally better than their assets - should still have their Alliance Operation (which the can play from the stack with Mumbad City Hall)
