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Everybody Lied to Me Edition

Previous thread: >>46754421

Get in here, post games, miniatures, questions, whatever you like.

List of mini providers:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uGaaOSvSTqpwPGAvLPY3B5M2WYppDhzXdjwMpqRxo9M/edit

List of Historical Tactical, Strategic, and Military Drill treatises:
http://pastebin.com/BfMeGd6R

ZunTsu Gameboxes:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/yaokao3h1o4og/ZunTsu_GameBoxes

/hwg/ Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/tghwg/

Games, Ospreys & References folders:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/lu95l5mgg06d5/Ancient
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/81ck8x600cas4/Medieval
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/w6m41ma3co51e/Horse_and_Musket
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/vh1uqv8gipzo1/Napoleonic
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/bbpscr0dam7iy/ACW
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/bvdtt01gh105d/Victorian
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/b35x147vmc6sg/World_War_One
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/z8a13ampzzs88/World_War_Two
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/z8i8t83bysdwz/Vietnam_War
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/7n3mcn9hlgl1t/Modern

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/8tatre3vd10yv/Avalon_Hill
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/pq6ckzqo3g6e6/Field_Of_Glory
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/r2mff8tnl8bjy/GDW
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/whmbo8ii2evqh//SPI
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/ws6yi58d2oacc/Strategy_%26_Tactics_Magazine
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/lx05hfgbic6b8/Naval_Wargaming
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/s1am77aldi1as/Wargames
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>>46831484

>Wargaming Compendium
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cghxf3475qy46aq/Wargaming+Compendium.pdf
>Saga
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/alj31go19tmpm/SAGA
>Black Powder
http://www.mediafire.com/download/o5x6blwoczojmfr/Black+Powder.pdf
>Bolt Action
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/n7jmdnlv1n0ju/Bolt_Action
>Hail Caesar
https://mega.nz/#F!s9xTTDpQ!CasEjRETeqZsJ5LOzYrJdg
>Warhammer Ancient battles 2.0
http://www.mediafire.com/download/uttov32riixm9b0/Warhammer+Ancient+Battles+2E.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ta7aj1erh7sap1t/Warhammer+Ancient+Battles+-+Armies+of+Antiquity+v2.pdf
>Warmaster Ancients
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cifld8bl3uy2i5g/Warmaster+Ancients.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/3emyvka11bnna1b/Warmaster+Ancient+Armies.pdf
>Advanced Squad Leader
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/d9x0dbxrpjg48/Advanced_Squad_Leader
>Impetus
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/28i9gevqws518/Impetus
>Ronin
http://www.mediafire.com/download/m8xke04pc3hne2k/Ronin.pdf
>Battleground WWII
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/cb83cg7ays4l1/Battleground_WWII
>By Fire And Sword
https://mega.co.nz/#!jxgCWTYD!FCp52DAqIUc-EM-TsRsWv7fB92nJ3kkzKsNcD_urI5Q
>Modelling & painting guides
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/7b5027l7oaz05/Modelling_%26_Painting_Guides
>Twilight 2000/2013 RPG
https://mega.co.nz/#F!C9sQhbwb!NVnD4jvUn5inOrPJIAkBhA
>Phoenix Command RPG
https://mega.co.nz/#F!b5tgXRwa!mzelRNrKPjiT8gP7VrS-Jw
>Next War (GMT)
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/eupungrg93xgb/Next_War
>Battlegroup
https://mega.nz/#F!SolyxarJ!GUg6zWBStfznr6BvYedghQ
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>>46831487
Desired scans :
Black Powder supplements
Rank and File supplements
Harpoon 3 & 4 supplements
Hail Caesar! Late Antiquity to Early Medieval Army List
Force on Force supplements
Hind Commander
At Close Quarters
War and Conquest
Germany Strikes!
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TODAY IN MILITARY HISTORY April 22nd
238 The Senate declares Decimus Caelius Calvinus Balbinus Pius & Marcus Clodius Pupienus Maximus Roman Co-Emperors (Apr 22-July 29, 238)
1073 Election of Pope Gregory VIII - Hildebrand (1073-1085), later canonized
1164 Frederick Barbarossa makes Guido di Crema [Anti-]Pope as "Paschal III" (1164-1168)
1363 Battle of Canturino: The White Company defeats the Milanese
1370 Construction of the Bastille begins in Paris
1509 Henry VIII becomes King of England, d. 1547
1521 King Francis I of France declares war on Spain
1526 First known slave revolt in what is now the US, South Carolina
1529 Treaty of Zaragoza: Spain & Portugal divide the eastern hemisphere
1676 Naval Battle off Etna/Agosta/Catania: Dutch-Spanish vs. French
1769 Madame du Barry becomes King Louis XV's "official" mistress
1796 Battle of Mondovi: Napoleon defeats the Piedmontese
1809 Battle of Eggmuhl: The French defeat the Austrians
1898 President McKinley orders blockade of Cuba
1898 USS 'Nashville' captures Spanish ship 'Buena Ventura'
1913 Balkan Wars: Montenegrans capture Scutari, Albania, from the Turks
1914 Mexico severs diplomatic relations with the US
1915 Second Battle of Ypres: Germany introduces poison gas
1930 Signing of the The London Naval Arms Limitation Trety
1944 Hitler & Mussolini confer at Berchtesgarten
1944 New Guinea: U.S. Army troops land near Hollandia
1945 3rd Inf Div demonstrates American cultural insensitivity by blowing up the swastika atop the Nuremburg Stadium
1945 Soviet and Polish troops liberate the Sachsenhausen Concentration Camp, near Oranienburg in Brandenburg, which held many political leaders from Captive Nations and special military prisoners
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On this day in 1945, Adolf Hitler, learning from one of his generals that no German defense was offered to the Russian assault at Eberswalde, admits to all in his underground bunker that the war is lost and that suicide is his only recourse. Almost as confirmation of Hitler’s assessment, a Soviet mechanized corps reaches Treuenbrietzen, 40 miles southwest of Berlin, liberates a POW camp and releases, among others, Norwegian Commander in Chief Otto Ruge.
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Anybody can recommend a book with a good look at the Battle of Leipzig? Academic account preferably.

Thank you /hwg/
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The Battle of Eckmühl fought on 21 April – 22 April 1809, was the turning point of the 1809 Campaign, also known as the War of the Fifth Coalition.

Napoleon I had been unprepared for the start of hostilities on 10 April 1809, by the Austrians under the Archduke Charles of Austria and for the first time since assuming the French Imperial Crown had been forced to cede the strategic initiative to an opponent.

Thanks to the dogged defense waged by the III Corps, commanded by Marshal Davout, and the Bavarian VII Corps, commanded by Marshal Lefebvre, Napoleon was able to defeat the principal Austrian army and wrest the strategic initiative for the remainder of the war.

Operating over a fifty-mile front, from Regensburg (Ratisbon to the French) to Pfaffenhofen (district), marked by stretches of rugged, wooded terrain, neither the French nor the Austrians had developed adequate intelligence about their opponent's strength, dispositions or intentions. Assuming that the bulk of the Austrian army was deployed so as to cover their bridgehead at Landshut and the main highway to Vienna, on 20 April 1809, Napoleon launched most of his army in an attack to the Southwest.

The resulting Battle of Abensberg was a clear, French victory, following which Napoleon ordered all but Davout's III Corps and Lefebvre’s (Bavarian) VII Corps to pursue and destroy what he thought was the remains of the Austrian Army.

The French attack, however, had only split the Austrian Army, separating its Left Wing, composed of the V Armee Korps, VI A.K. and II Reserve A.K., from the balance of the army.

Two corps, III A.K. and IV A.K., were withdrawn by Archduke Charles to the North, forming a nine-mile line from Abbach on the Danube to Eckmühl on the Grosse Laber. More importantly, unbeknownst to Napoleon, the Austrians gained a victory of their own on 20 April 1809, by surrounding and capturing the French garrison at Regensburg and its strategic bridge over the Danube.
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>>46831520
With the seizure of the bridge at Regensburg, Archduke Charles no longer needed to defend the Landshut bridgehead and instead moved to concentrate his remaining forces so as to envelop and destroy Davout's corps. FML Prince Friedrich of Hohenzollern-Hechingen's III A.K. (15,700 men) and FML Prince Franz Seraph of Rosenberg-Orsini's IV A.K. (21,460 men), were ordered to hold the Austrian left, pinning in place Davout's corps, while FZM Johann Kollowrat's fresh II A.K. (28,168 men) and the elite grenadiers and cuirassiers of G.d.K. Prince Johann of Liechtenstein's I Reserve A.K. advanced south from Regensburg and deployed against Davout's exposed left flank. Inexplicably, no orders were issued to G.d.K. Count Heinrich von Bellegarde, so his powerful I A.K. (27,653 men) remained on the north bank of the Danube and played no role in the subsequent fighting.

For his part, Napoleon was intent on enveloping and destroying the Austrian forces retiring Southwest to Landshut and its bridge across the Isar. The II and IV Corps (App. 57,000 men under the overall command of Marshal Masséna) were directed to cross the Isar upstream from Landshut and block the Austrians from crossing to the South Bank. Meanwhile, under the overall command of Marshal Lannes, Lannes' Provisional Corps, the VII (Württemberg) Corps, a division from VII Corps and two cuirassier divisions (App. 51,000 men) were to closely pursue and destroy the defeated Austrians.
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>>46831538
The mop-up of what Napoleon thought was a "curtain of three regiments" was left to Davout, even though more than half of the III Corps' original units had been detached to create Lannes' task force.[3] Despite Davout's reports to the contrary, Napoleon ordered him to attack the Austrians on his front in the morning, with the proviso that Lefebvre's equally depleted corps would support him if he needed help (A total of approximately 36,000 men for both corps).

The leading elements of the Austrian attack ran into Montbrun's determined cavalry, who managed to reduce the impetus of the charge thanks to hilly and wooded terrain. Austrian General Rosenberg displayed serious concern when he realized that Davout's troops were not moving to account for the ongoing battle, and rightly assumed that more French troops were on the way.

These troops had, in fact, arrived and brushed aside Rosenberg's flank guard. Napoleon had set the French army into motion around 2 a.m. on the 22nd and had his men march 18 miles north in just a few short hours, meaning reinforcements for Davout would be arriving faster than promised.
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>>46831546
The vanguard of the assault were the German troops under General Vandamme; these soldiers stormed the bridge at Eckmühl and even captured the town's chateau after ferocious Austrian resistance. At this point, Davout launched his men against the Austrian center at the village of Unterlaichling and the woods to the north. The famous 10th Legere Regiment became involved in vicious fighting around the woods, but eventually was strengthened by Bavarians under Deroy and managed to capture the positions. North of Unterlaichling, Davout's troops under Louis Friant and St. Hilaire steadily pushed back the defenders of Oberlaichling and the surrounding woods, overran a redoubt held by Hungarian grenadiers, and prompted Charles to order a general retreat.

The struggle now devolved into a series of major cavalry clashes as the Austrians attempted to extricate their army without losing too many prisoners. Perhaps the best cavalry in the Habsburg army, the Vincent Chevaulegers and the Stipsic Hussars, occupied the Bettelberg ridgeline between Eckmühl and the woods above Unterlaiching. These elite units demolished some German light cavalry before being stopped by Bavarian infantry. Napoleon was insistent on the immediate capture of this position and ordered forward two heavy cavalry divisions under St. Sulpice and Nansouty. These horsemen were pummeled by Austrian artillery but came on nonetheless and managed to saber the gunners after having seen off the enemy cavalry.
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>>46831549
The first phase of the retreat ended, but it was not over yet. The Austrians had found a chokepoint in the road and were instructed to stem the French tide. Three French cuirassier divisions supported by additional German light cavalry attacked and a swirling melee developed. The Austrians fought heroically but were heavily outnumbered and had to retreat. During this part of the conflict, more French cavalry struck in their flank and the remaining Austrian horse fled north to Ratisbon with great celerity.

The French had won the battle, but it was not a decisive engagement. Napoleon had hoped that he would be able to catch the Austrian army between Davout and the Danube, but he didn't know that Ratisbon had fallen and thus gave the Austrians a means of escape over the river.

Nevertheless, the French inflicted 12,000 casualties at the cost of just 6,000, and Napoleon's speedy arrival witnessed an entire axial realignment of his army (from a north-south axis to an east-west one) that permitted the defeat of the Austrians. Subsequent campaigning led to the French recapture of Ratisbon, Austrian eviction from Southern Germany, and the fall of Vienna.

Napoleon is alleged to have remarked of the series of manoeuvers that culminated at Eckmühl, it was "the finest" that he ever conducted.
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>>46831558
Nicely done AnonOP. Here are the Ospreys I had collated for Eckmühl; the campaign, the French folder (with all the various allied German stuff) and the main Austrian titles.

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/h14yg76hee9z3/Napoleon's_Army_and_Allies
http://www.mediafire.com/download/93ddbt9d0uezdyv/Osprey+-+CAM+056+-+Eggmuhl+1809.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/mki5svyi11inwsh/Osprey+-+ELI+101+-+Austrian+Commanders+of+the+Napoleonic+Wars+1792-1815.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/wwmyirmtgrk85k0/Osprey+-+MAA+176+-+Austrian+Army+of+the+Napoleonic+Wars+%281%29+Infantry.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/9gi1y3en11mq3w1/Osprey+-+MAA+181+-+Austrian+Army+of+the+Napoleonic+Wars+%282%29+Cavalry.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/kiacpbzz0i33h3i/Osprey+-+MAA+223+-+Austrian+Specialist+Troops+of+the+Napoleonic+Wars.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/jt8c77rddr24c7t/Osprey+-+MAA+299+-+Austrian+Auxiliary+Troops+1792-1816.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/8kbbvdb63tddbpz/Osprey+-+WAR+024+-+Austrian+Grenadiers+and+Infantry+1788-1816.pdf
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>>46831587
Do you have any of the Napo CAM?
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>>46831668
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/vh1uqv8gipzo1/Napoleonic

If there's one missing from there that you what, let me know
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>>46831686
I'm looking for #25 Leipzig
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>>46831701
Oh you're the anon from upthread? I was just in the process of adding that. This one could probably do with an updated/revised release now.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/5qkfrmkww10zkxt/Osprey+-+CAM+025+-+Leipzig+1813.pdf
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>There are people on /hwg/ who haven't read all three volumes of Thunder on the Danube RIGHT NOW
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For the chap that was thinking about Early Byzantines have a Look at Footsore (formerly Musketeer) they do the best I think.
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>>46831730
You are a saint anon, thank you so much.
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>>46831587
No worries. I'm in .jp timezone so I caught this once at a good time. Hope it covers the basics (amused by the date thing, and tried not to go too /pol on it).

Off to paint some plastic Brits. Thinking about Japanese army, probably 6mm.
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>>46832486
> Off to paint some plastic Brits.

What period?
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>1945 3rd Inf Div demonstrates American cultural insensitivity by blowing up the swastika atop the Nuremburg Stadium

I'm triggered. And also believe I'm gamesmanship and winning at all costs. Because BA is a tournament game, games have winners and losers, and nothing in life is more important than victory points.
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>>46832619
Late WW2 plastics. Not great. New skills to learn dealing with plastics and not metal.
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>>46832715
>And also believe I'm gamesmanship
Hello gamesmanship, I'm dad.
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>>46832728
Hi Dad, I'm 'Pingvinstoerpanzer'.
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bmp für die Gesundheit
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Anyone in here backed the Miniature Wargaming movie on KS? There was a new update video today and i admit i slowly get hyped for it.
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>>46833118
link? Never heard of it.
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>>46833118
Nope.

Can't think of a reason to be interested in it. I suspect I am not the target market.
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>>46833166
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/954318608/miniature-wargaming-the-movie
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Some vehicle previews from Warlord: an A13 tanks and a Lasik Field Car (Which is impossible to Google thanks to laser eye surgery).

As someone who likes both interwar/early war tanks and Poland in WWII, this is relevant to my interests.

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>>46833476

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>>46833485

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>>46833476
>Lasik
it's laZik
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>>46833698
>>46833476
It's a Fiat 508 originally, if you search for that it makes things much easier.
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>>46833698
>>46833750
Ah, Warlord must have spelt it wrong in their facebook post.

This is in no way my fault for not knowing enough about cars.
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>>46833491
>polish lazik
>somebody stole the wheels
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In a little bit of vidya news that is nonetheless pretty /hwg/ related, Panzer Corps is free on Steam this weekend.

This also means that it's pretty heavily discounted if you decide you like it enough to buy it
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>>46833951
No bully kurwa!
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>>46833951
Prolly germans, they were worse than gypsies when it comes to tanks and shit, stealing stuff wholesale.
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>>46834076
Would you recommend it?

What are your experiences with it?
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>>46834098
I've played it a bit and I like it well enough.

It shares the problem that many games of it's ilk have which is they feel a bit more like a puzzle than a strategy game.

By this I mean to complete a scenario with the best result there's usually only one or two 'correct' ways to do it, you spend your time trying to figure out these optimal ways rather than developing your own strategic approach.

Still, it's only about 5 ameribux/3.5 britpounds with the discount, so if you want a decent wargame with a reasonable amount of content you could definitely do worse.
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>>46834098
>Would you recommend it?
If you don't likes wargames.
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>>46834098
Not him, but for 4,99 (its 75% off) its well worth it.

I played it over the last few weeks (i have the eastern grand campaign dlcs for germany 39-45 as well) and finally reached the year 45. Took me almost 90 hours and i'm playing on medium difficulty. The game is great and offers tons of content.

From what i heard, the Afrika Corps and Soviet Corps campaigns are great too, but i haven't played them yet.

I recommend buying the DLC from key seller sites though, because there you can save a few more bucks. I payed like 1,50€ for each of the grand campaign modules.

>>46834177

>by this I mean to complete a scenario with the best result there's usually only one or two 'correct' ways to do it,

This is correct for the original campaign where you have turn limits for your objectives. Like capture XY in 30 turns for a minor victory. Capture it in 15 for a decisive victory (earns more presige (= currency to buy stuff) and might unlock optional missions).
The Grand Campaign however eliminates this "need to rush" by giving different goals for both kinds of victory like Capture 3 of the target cities for a minor victory and capture 3 enemy generals and conquer all 6 terget cities for decisive victory. (Did i already mention the GC dlc is awesome?)
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Silly Finns and their perfectly ordinary islands.
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>>46836026
>if ships can be standing near islands forever
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>Don't fuck with angry Dutchmen. They'll ruin your day at the beach.
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>Notice Polish Infantry are missing their standard
>the flagpole has broken off
>can't find it anywhere
How do you lose a pink standard?
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>>46839032
Never mind, I found it lads
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>>46839032
>Polish Infantry
>pink standard
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>>46838811
A report has come in from the Soemba
That their salvoes go of like a Rhumba
Two guns, they sound fine,
But the third five point nine,
He am bust and refuse to go Boomba
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>>46839911
Not that anon but some duchy of warsaw flags were slightly pinkish

Plz dont hurt me
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>>46839911
>he doesn't have pink flags


Reminder that the Vistula Legion standard literally has a chicken on it.
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I want to get into a historical wargame, but have no idea what period or scale or any of that stuff. Where should I start figuring it out?
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>>46840057
What do you find interesting, from a model or historical point of view?

How much money would you want to invest?

Depending on your answers, we could give you some more detailed advice.
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>>46840057
> Period
Go with what you like best. You like knights and shit? Do medievals. You like fancy hats? Do Napoleonics. You like mud? Do WWI. etc. etc.

> Scale
28mm is the one most people are familiar with and you get nice multipart plastics for a lot of stuff. Great for skirmish and smaller battles but kinda gets clunky for larger scraps.

20mm is similar to 28mm but has the advantage of dirt cheap plastics, especially for WW2.

15mm is pretty good for both large battles and smaller affairs, the most versatile scale IMO.

10mm and smaller is best for big battles. An individual soldier model isn't much to look at but en masse they look great (see >>46840055)
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>>46840057
Read about different periods, see which one interests you
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>>46840152
If he'd want to go for air combat or naval combat, scales are again different, though.
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>>46840152
>Doesn't mention the best scale of them all 6mm

Anon plz

6mm is great, they are not that expensive, they are easy to paint, look great on the tabletop. They are there for most periods (I would like to advice baccus for a very large range).

Here are my 6mm Napoleonics. I also ordered some ww2 guys last week from baccus and they seem to look great.
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>>46840341
>>46840152
I knew you mentioned it offhand by saying 10mm and smaller, but sometimes 6mm needs it's own very small spotlight
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>>46840341
>tfw my 6mm French will never battle against DutchAnon's British
sad
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>>46840341
> best scale of them all 6mm

Hey anon, dunno if you noticed but I think you lost the other 4mm you meant to include in your post.

Obviously you're a smart guy so you know that 10mm stronk.
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>>46840480
While I agree to dissagree with you, those chaps look awfully nice, who makes those?
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>>46840680
The blog I found them on didn't specify, though if I had to guess I would say Pendraken.
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>>46839998
I will fight you in the street
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>>46840480
>10mm for combined arms games
>In a world where GHQ exist

M8...
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>>46841094
GHQ is too pricey m8, 10mm is cheap as chips.
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>>46841138
10mm is really not cheap by comparison to 6mm, even GHQ's overpriced nature. Cheap compared to 15mm maybe.
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>>46841094
These are gorgeous
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>>46840141
>>46840152
>>46840174
The things that interest me most:

>Golden Age of Pirates
>American War for Independence/Revolutionary War
>Spanish and Ukrainian Civil Wars
>alternate history
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>>46843033
...there ain't much for any of that shit, sorry m8
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>>46843033
I know there's a fair few rulesets that can work for the AWI, mostly the ones that also work for other conflicts of the era.

All in all, I'm not too knowledgable about those, though.
More of a WW2 guy, with the occasional foray into other 20th century stuff and passing knowledge of other eras.
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>>46843061
There's probably a lot more than you suspect.

Except Ukrainian civil war.
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>>46843135

There's enough RCW stuff around.
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>>46843061
what are you talking about?

There's a lot for Pirates and AWI. Empress do a range of 28mm Interwar stuff, theres some 20mm things floating around.
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>>46843135
If by Ukrainian Civil War you mean Donetsk and all that, just use any moderns ruleset.

>>46843033
Tangentially related, but there's a KS for a pirate game up right now

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/firelockgames/blood-and-plunder

Not suggesting it as a first game because suggesting a KS for that would be dumb. I'm just pointing out its existence.
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>>46843061

Please hold off commenting when you don't actually know what you're talking about, "m8".
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Has anyone on here played By Fire and Sword? I have the rulebook and it looks like a solid enough system, and now that I've got a better paying job I'm debating grabbing two starters and trying to do demos. Just curious what ithers here think. Love the whole 17th centuey eastern Europe thing going on.

Also: is the BFaS zip in the download links just the main book, ir does it have more stuff? I would like to get my hands on The Deluge if possible.
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>>46843033
Well choice of scale would affect a few things, but you have a number of options here

>Golden Age of Pirates
>American War for Independence/Revolutionary War

See the Horse & Musket folder; for the former there's Gloire, Flashing Steel and On The Seven Seas; for the later Muskets & Tomahawks, Long Rifle, British Grenadier, and from the Napoleonics folder Black Powder.

>Spanish and Ukrainian Civil Wars

With interwar stuff you can use pretty much and WW1/WW2 ruleset (refer those folders); but specifically here you could try Chain of Command with the No Pasaran expansion for SCW, and A World Aflame for the UCW.

>alternate history

Perhaps A Very British Civil War might be your thing there, seeing as you have a fancy for interwar conflict.
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>>46844027
Posting the Chain of Command SCW supplement because I don't see it in the folders.
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Bolt Action Primer - British Uniform does not match any uniform color I have found made by Vallejo (For example English Uniform 70921). IT DOES MATCH Panzer Aces 316 - Dark Mud.

Good job I have some dark mud.
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>>46843365
>If by Ukrainian Civil War you mean Donetsk and all that, just use any moderns ruleset.
I mean Makhno and company vs. the Reds, mostly.
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>>46844129
Uniforms are a tricky one.

Sometimes it feels almost comical to try and get the 'right' colour.
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>tfw no WWII board to play on and no money to build it

Can I just slap some green felt on some plywood and have a board? Maybe put some foam under the felt for hills, some black sandpaper on the felt for roads, and cut up doormats for crops?

Will still cost heaps desu, ~$50 for the plywood and about the same for the felt.
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>>46845025
I mean, you can do whatever you want. Just get a green piece of fabric and some fake hills and shit so you can play now, and save to make something fucking awesome later.
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>>46844102
Does it have rules for when Leninist bastards who pretended to be your comrades line you up against a wall and kill you along with a bunch of athletes who came to participate in an alternative, anti-war Olympics, because you didn't want to suck USSR dick with them?
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>>46845109
>anarchist detected
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>>46834076
>doesn't run on Linux

Nice "program" you have there

>>46844027
Fugg dat beautiful board, pretty incredible

>>46845059
That's basically the plan.
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On the subject of the Spanish Civil War, below a certain scale it won't be clear anyway, but at larger scales it will: In the SCW, among the socialists there were some mixed-gender armies and some all-female ones. Any female miniatures with appropriate weaponry for the time?
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This might be more in line with a WiP thread. but, seeing as this is HWG related. I figured I'd ask here as well. I sort of went on a painting binge and finished up my 28mm WW2 German vehicles this last weekend.
And I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions on an easy way to weather them. I'm leery about just experimenting and ruining them. But right now they need some mud and dust and such.
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>>46845219
I'm a shit painter so I wouldn't listen to me at all, but I just drybrush my tanks with brown or white, or sometimes black if you're careful, taking care that its barely visible on most parts of the tank, but very visible on the tracks and gun barrel etc.
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Has there ever been a historical miniatures game that represents like, the Mafia vs. the FBI in Prohibition-Era New York, or clashes between police and radicals in Greece? Stuff that's not actually military at all.
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>>46845209
>Any female miniatures with appropriate weaponry for the time?
Lots
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>>46845411
There are several gangster-themed wargames
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>>46845413
Fuck yeah! I'm going to make a display representing a coalition of democratic socialist and anarchist forces, to occupy the top of my dresser.
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>>46845411
One of the expansions for Legends if the Old West had alternate rules for doing 1920's games with mobsters and such.
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>>46845196
>Fugg dat beautiful board, pretty incredible
It was stunning
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>>46843061
U wot m8?
Independence war and pirates Age has hitload models. Ships are pricey tho.
Don't know about Spanish Civil war, but some anon was talking about ukrainian some threads ago
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>>46845411
The people who make Dead Man's Hand are actually about to come out with one. It's called The Chicago Way from Great Escape Games. No idea if the rules will be any good, but...
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>>46844965
Yeah. Lucky I had the mud. Means I can patch up those little mistakes I make as I go.
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>>46845219
they look too lovely to weather with dust and things. Keep them with a parade shine, all nice!
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>>46841238

GHQ seems to have great sculpts though.
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>>46849362
GHQ are nice. I have a shit load of them. Worth it IMHO. But that is subjective of course.
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>>46850736
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>>46844903
No one called this "Ukrainian civil war". Whole conflict called "Russian civil war" since it's former russian territory and parts of it called like "eastern front", "western front" etc etc and wars within new formed republics and communist, like "Soviet-Ukrainian war", "Soviet-Finnish war" etc.
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>>46851918
I like that! Big gun is big! I have an 88 in 6mm (not big).
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>>46841238
GHQ might cost 4 times as much as Heroic and Ros or Scotia, but damn is it worth it. However, they're cheating with going 1/285 instead of 1/300
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>>46845209

http://www.empressminiatures.com/userimages/procart23.htm
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>>46845219
Did we ever get a full scan of the Battlegroup Kursk rulebook? Starting on page 177 there are some painting guides which feature some subtle but nice weathering.

If needs must I can take a shitty photo of the relevant pages in my copy, don't have a scanner to hand sadly.
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>>46851962
>Big gun
___4U_____
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>>46852564
school me on big ones, daddy.
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>>46845219
Light (or heavy) drybrush with dust/sand color.
Use a sponge or a piece of the foam from blisters and dip it into dark/metal paint and do little chips of that paint on places where the paint might have chipped off from your vehicles (fenders etc).

Video related:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYEnKPy7P10

He shows some simple and basic weathering steps too.
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I'm thinking about starting a ASoIaF Riverlander army with Perry miniatures but what bases do you guys recommend I use?
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I'm running a game of Chevauchee for the guys over at /SoS/ using some fantasy rules I knocked together.

I've drawn on their fantasy setting for inspiration. Without going into too much detail, a mercenary captain has been hired to take out a rogue noble. He's holed up in a fortified mansion in the midst of a maze of alleyways. He's also got a pet troll.

>>46800104 Here's the /SoS/ thread.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/14We958Hp13sMxEFcDv06fpqtFZWXQbQPMQ-6X_pZrQg/edit Here's the fantasy rules supplement.
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>>46853697
It depends on the system. For skirmishes you want individual bases but for big battles you want to move several dudes at once.

If in doubt, base individually and use movement trays. 20 or 25mm square bases are probably best, you can get plastic ones or mdf ones, which also have the advantage of being super cheap.
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>>46854087
> which also have the advantage of being super cheap.

The mdf bases, that is. For example a pack of 30 20mm square bases from Pendraken is about £1.30.

That being said, plastic bases aren't much worse. A pack of 40 20mm Renedra bases on the Perry webstore is £4 and would be more convenient if you were ordering your minis from Perry as well.
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>>46853697
Coins.
Individual.
FTW.
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>>46845441
It took me a second to realise that they painted them to look black and white rather than used a filter.
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>>46858158
There's this one painter who does whole sets like that, in "greyscale". It's stunning stuff.
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>>46840341
My ultimate goal is to field the 1863 Armies of the Potomac and Northern Virginia by regiment in this scale
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What are good recommends for Samurai & Korean minatures? I've been looking at Perry Minatures with a view to trying Ronin. Any other good suppliers?
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>>46862320
If going 20mm, Zvezda's plastics I believe are the correct direction.
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>>46862320
foundry has ex-citadel ranges, northstar have a few sets, warlord has the wargames factory stuff, it's realistically proportioned so I think it looks odd.
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>>46862962
Wow those are really nice!
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Which system is considered best for realistic simulations of battles? Particularly Greek, Samurai or Roman?
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>>46862320
Steel Fist for Samurai,though they are a tad oversized.

http://www.steelfistminiatures.com/
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>>46863993
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Talking to a gaming buddy about painting his 28mm Napoleonic French for him, it would be about 45 models to be painted at tabletop quality. What would be an ok price to ask for this?
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>>46864233
1-2 currency units for each miniature if he is a good friend.
If not, 5-15 currency units per hour.
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>>46862320

I've been using Kensei, Perry, Wargames Factory and a few Moonraker minis.

Of those I heartily recommend Perry. The WGF plastics are awful - but if you're looking at a larger game than Ronin not a bad deal.

The Kensei minis are beautiful, but almost GW expensive and slightly fantasy.

Moonraker's okay, but they've only got a handful of appropriate models and they're a little small.

Of the Samurai minis I've personally worked with, Perry has been the best value/quality balance.

Steel Fist looks great though, and I want to grab a few someday.
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Is there anything stopping you from using the Perry British infantry box for the Zulu War? The box art shows them in Khaki but their equipment seems to be identical to that of the Warlord Games Zulu War models and the date range overlaps the Warlord box.
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>>46865110
>Is there anything stopping you from using the Perry British infantry box for the Zulu War?

My wallet sadly
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>>46865130
Well the Perry figures are £20 for 36 against £20 for 24 in the Warlord box. So its about as cheap as you are going to get for 28mm multi pose plastic.
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>getting MA in cultural anthro
>thought about getting it in history instead
>don't really regret decision but too goddamn busy to read military history on top of my usual workload
>want to get into historical wargames but know I'd only enjoy them if I was reading about the context

Thinking I might just buy and paint miniatures and make displays and dioramas and shit.
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What's the best WW2 wargame for a beginner? Accuracy and realism is super important to me. I don't really want to paint miniatures, with the exception of larger pieces, e.g. tanks.

Also what scale?
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>>46865631
What kinda stuff and how much of it do you want on the table?
Going for accuracy and realism at a maximum will severely limit what games are an option, depending on what you'd want as a minimum.

Also, do you have an active historical wargaming scene locally?
Getting into a game that's actually played actively is generally more fun.
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>>46844903
Blacks vs Reds is not UCW, m8.
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>>46865806
Yeah, my bad.
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>>46865850
No worries. Don't forget the tchankas!
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>>46865110

Captain Blood spoke with the Perry's at salute and they said they're working on Zulu War British infantry, it's not entirely clear weather he means metal figures or a variant of the plastic set.
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>>46862320
>>46864543
WGF is best used to bulk up forces though you get what you pay for(rigid poses,soft details on faces etc.).

Perry's is the best bang for your buck but from my personal experience the mold lines are ubiquitous and details are fiddly.

Steel First is the most aesthetically pleasing(most expensive by far) though it does suffer from scale creep.

Tiger Miniatures offers 28mm Koreans but the Perry's outclass them in every way.
http://www.tigerminiatures.co.uk/page19.htm

It's a shame the Perry's never bothered sculpting a historically accurate Ming range...
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>tfw its very difficult to build a boer/afrikaner army in 28mm

Warlord only sells 4-packs of Mounted Boers, and the only other supplier I can find is 1st Corps, who sell 8-packs of Boer farmers and scouts.

I just want to beat up my friends' British and Zulu armies.
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>>46875817
I would have thought there was a lot in that range; Foundry do some nice ones (pic related); also look up Redoubt, and Old Glory (although the latter are 25mm).
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>>46875868
>http://www.redoubtenterprises.com/shop/?page=shop/browse&category_id=755b4b649c85525d5879b1eaf46c50f3&ps_session=be697fc3d5e28e44f7b4a68ba68cca84
>http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/files/cache/52be5c2d3abd7b9137de8b941b437244_f2967.png
>http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/files/cache/3d1f04ac8aca57cebd1eeecd0b1d3baa_f2969.png

That adds a few more products, thanks. What ruleset would you recommend for it?
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okay I don't know how many people in this thread play SAGA due to it only being """""historical""""", but my friend has started running his vikings as Jomsvikings and they're savage as all hell.

I play a cavalry and archer heavy Norman list (1 serfs, 1 warriors with spears, 1 warriors with cbows, 2 mounted hearthguard in one unit) and they seem to give me a really nasty time. My usual tactic is to sit back and volley them until they get close, then come flying out with the cavalry. But since Jomsvikings can just flat out kill your soldiers with that ability of theirs, I have to play aggressively. Should I just drop the archers and grab more cavalry or what?
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>>46875909
>What ruleset would you recommend for it?
That's a harder question to answer. We have a generic title on the subject which might interest you:

http://www.mediafire.com/download/kv5k4jjzdsk1708/Wargaming+in+History+-+The+Second+Anglo-Boer+War.pdf

Perhaps Death in the Dark Continent might be a good one for it, especially because you could then incorporate British and Zulu armies among others:

http://www.mediafire.com/download/vn5d4w4n674ysk7/Death+in+the+Dark+Continent.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/hb0f8wn1r23dq9a/Death+in+the+Dark+Continent+-+Army+Lists.pdf
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>>46875914
Saga is fine, was quite popular at one point, anybody telling you that you are a dirty casual is probably one of the shitposter blow-ins we've had trouble with lately.
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>>46875988
Cool pic btw, and thanks I'll have a look through those rulesets.
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>>46875914

Levies, mate.
I usually main Jomsvikings, and the first match is savage for the enemy and the second for me.

Deny him wrath when you can and he can't pull off the good combat abilities / jomsborg.

Use levies to soak Northern Tempest, or just accept that wrath.

Attack them when they have little wrath and no tricks up their sleeves.
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Valentine Infantry Tank 1938-1945 (Osprey New Vanguard 233)

The Valentine was the most produced and most widely used British tank of the Second World War. The Valentine first saw combat during Operation Compass in November 1941 and remained one of the main medium tanks in British service into 1943. As the Churchill became more prevalent the Valentine was relegated to specialist and tank-destroyer variants, which would remain in service in the Far East to the end of the war. This book describes the evolution of the Valentine design and weighs up its impact on the battlefield. Although widely regarded today as one of the weaker tanks to be fielded during the war, it was exceptionally numerous, with more Valentines produced than any other British tank.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/d05qvoeet9ra7h9/Osprey+-+NVA+233+-+Valentine+Infantry+Tank+1938-45.pdf
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>>46875817
empress miniatures have boers in 28mm

http://www.empressminiatures.com/userimages/procart4.htm

They're underneath all the 1879 british in their zulu war range
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>>46876989
There are a number of mounted and dismounted boers there, thanks.
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>>46876615
Churchill is a really ugly tank though, valentine looks a lot better
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>>46877363
Valentine is quite pretty. Comet is my tank waifu though.
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>>46877408
>not crusader
I guess we have different tastes anon
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>>46877615
>>46877408
>>46877363
H-hey senpais, am I kawaii?
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Can i join too?
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I say, chaps... my thing fell off. Be a champ and give an old friend a hand.
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>>46876615
At least it's faster than matilda in warthunder
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>>46878131
how do you call lonely matilda on a top of a hill?
a miracle
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>>46866265
Variants I think as the two kits have basic similarities,
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>>46878205
I'm typing this alt-tabbed from an auto-pilot matilda. Woohoo.
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>>46878245
Anyways, what is it with the British and anemic engines? I think Centurion and Chieftain had troubles, too.
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>>46878253
For the WW2 infantry tanks, it's simply design priorities.

Infantry tanks were meant to provide close support to the infantry, which means heavy protection on all sides, but no need to go much faster than walking pace.
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>>46848603
if it's like the previous games it will be cinematic in style.
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>>46831484
Sharpe Practice 2 is out, anyone getting it?
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>>46878762
I got an email from TFL which thanked me for advance ordering the bundle. It had a pdf copy attached and promised me that my hard copy would arrive soon.

This slightly confused me because to the best of my knowledge I never advance ordered anything.
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>>46878253
Centurion was fine just very thirsty.
Chieftain was an engine dealing with too much tank for it's weight.
There's a version of the Chieftain they have at Bovington that was upgraded for export sales, you can tell how different a machine it is just on sound because it doesn't shriek like a TIE fighter as it goes past.
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>>46878803
>It had a pdf copy attached

Go on...

I'm planning to buy the print set but wondering if i's my jam before I plop down all that cash (prefer print and support tfl)
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>>46878990
I got an email back from Rich saying basically they're sorry for the mixup and that I could just consider it a gift.

As a result I'm a bit loath to post the pdf here because it feels a bit cheeky to TFL.
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>>46879045
Agreed, It would be a bit cheeky.

Do us a good review instead?
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>>46879102
I'm unlikely to be playing it any time soon, which makes sense as I wasn't even planning on owning the rules, but I can give it a read over at some point and write up a brief summary.
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>>46879045
My main interest is the army lists, any way you can share those?
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>>46879223
Yeah that shouldn't be too hard, I don't have time to do it right now but I'll try and get them up either tonight or tomorrow.
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If anyone is interested, Chevauchee anon is posting again in Song of Swords thread
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>>46878253
The Chieftain was down to political shenanigans. They had a great engine for it... but they needed it to be built by British Leyland to try and keep it alive. This was a problem.
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>>46882195
>when you're in a battle but it's siesta time
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>>46866765
Have you fielded a Korean army?
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>>46877615

This fellow knows what he's talking about. Crusader just looks awesome.
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>>46886772
>Crusader just looks awesome.
With the emphasis on just?
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>>46886772
The Crusader is also my favourite tank. I remember staying up really late in one the early threads posting pictures with a dude.
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>>46884196
I've never bought 28mm Koreans.

Tigers and Scheltrum look inferior to Perrys while North Star is only planning on releasing a warband.
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>>46879233
That would be nice, anon.

After every AAR posted in TFL News who was steamrolled by those Red Coats in every single battle I'm a little worried about the imbalance of the new SP2 lists.

That's putting me off so look to those lists would be cool.
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>>46889204
I played a test game with some friends today, although we went for FIW and was mostly based on making up lists using the models we had.

Anglo-Americans had 2 groups of provincial troops with a corporal (Status 1) and a Lieutenant (Status 2), two groups of colonial rangers as skirmishers, each with a status 2 leader, and two groups of Highlanders with another lieutenant (status 2) and corporal (status 1).

The French had three groups of Marine Regulars with a Status 2 leader and a status 1 leader, two groups of Marine Skirmishers, each with a status 2 leader, and a group of tribal Indian Allies with a level 2 leader. Points values were exactly even and we dispensed with supports, partially because of a lack of models and partially because we wanted to get a grip on the core mechanics.

I played the Frogs, made some tactical errors that lost me the game in the end. Seemed fairly even all around, probably could've won if I'd played smarter. We also missed that most of our troops could only controlled volley the first time we shot (oops).

Still, long range musket volleying was mostly ineffective at killing people, but skirmishers, etc, just piled shock on my big Marine unit until I really couldn't move or shoot effectively. Highlanders beat back a flank attack by my Indian allies and that was all she wrote. Good fun, though.

I think that if you find the lists aren't balanced, you can build your own relatively easily; leaders are 3 points for a status 1, with an additional three points per status level after that and the troop lines/costs are in the book.

I have a copy of the rules in PDF that I bought fair and square, so I could provide a DL link, or at least a look at the lists.
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Is it just me or do these models look like half-made shit?

http://bicorne.net/cgi-bin/ss000001.pl?page=search&SS=boer&PR=-1&TB=O&ACTION=Go!
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>>46891519
JUST
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>>46891519
That looks like it was carved out of a small tree with a chainsaw
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>>46879045
Yeah they're good guys

Prices are generally quite fair anyways
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>>46875817
Could you use ACW confederate?

I guess one of 28mm problems is it's more obvious if uniforms are slightly incorrect. Might be worth considering anyways
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>>46891754
Basically what you said, the differences would be obvious at 28mm. Excluding the Bicorne Miniatures, I've found 49 different infantry and 11 different cavalry models between 1st Corps, Warlord Games, Redbout Enterprises, Wargames Foundry and Empress Miniatures.

What I really want are models for the Staatsartillerie, but I guess they're too obscure to have models. On the other hand, it's probably easier to find something that looks like them, as you suggested.
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>>46891892
The main problem is that distinctive piping on the chest, looks like. Otherwise I'd say you could convert some other artillery chaps.
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>>46892147
Do you have a good picture of the piping? The photos I've been using are pretty old but I'm not sure what you're referring to.

http://samilitaryhistory.org/vol094df.html
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>>46891892
>>46892147
Did some digging; Old Glory 25s apparently has a pack of Staatsartillerie crew in uniform, but no pictures on their website, alas.

Hope that helps you out a little.
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>>46892410

I was referring to their dress/full dress uniform; sorry for the confusion!
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Ok I got a problem /hwg/.

I bought some Adler French Napoleonics and the command strip comes with an officer, a standard bearer, a drummer and 2 'colour guards' with halberd type weapons. I've heard of these dudes before but can't find any information on their uniforms or how to accurately paint them.
Help?
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>>46891519
WHAT DID YOU DO
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>>46892565
It's regimental command just for clarification.
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Where would I go to get some plastic (Don't care about scale) middle eastern insurgents and irregulars? I want to try my hand at modeling a warband based on one of the current Syrian militias.
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>>46892630
Similar question but I want to model Kurdish resistance.

fite me
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>>46892630
>>46892667
http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=344439
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What's a good game for babby's first hex-and-counter? Especially interested in medieval, interwar, or 21st century games.
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>>46848116
>Such is winter in the Zone

... god, that would be hell. Could you imagine if STALKER had working seasons?
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>>46892667
Literally nothing wrong with that
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>>46892565
This might help.
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>>46892803
Also this.
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I've heard/read before that generals and such have used war games to learn and understand strategy which could then be actually applied in reality.

Were these games closer to/more like hex-based games, or miniatures games with measuring distances? What ruleset should I use if I want to learn enough to accurately depict the strategic elements of a modern-day conflict? In both urban areas and more open spaces.

I'm not figuring on being involved in any real conflicts, but knowing how seems like a cool hobby, and if I'm going to learn strategy, I figure I might as well learn some that could apply IRL in some kind of crazy shit-hit-the-fan situation.

Plus, y'know, if zombies or some shit happened it would be good to be better strategists than rival survivor groups.
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>>46892921
Most miniature wargames are relatively small and focused on the tactical level (usually anything from squads up to corps, depending), so I'd think larger, more abstract games would be better for large-scale strategy and operational thinking.
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>>46892667
Go here http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/PeriodList.aspx?period=48 and scroll down to Asia/Middle East. Plenty of figures for your rank and file. I imagine that you can find pewter technicals to fit them elsewhere.
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>>46892921
Most of the ones that were actually used by militaries such as the original wargames that the Prussians made were larger scale hex and chit deals.
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Wanting to get into Historical Wargames i like Medieval Knights and would prefer 28mm and i like World War 2 and do not care about the scale for them as much any advice on what would be good for that ??
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>>46892471
Ah I didn't look at Old Glory 25s because they're not listed under 28mm on the google doc in the OP. Thanks.

>>46892494
Np. What nation's artillerymen would you suggest as looking most like the Staatsartillerie?
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>>46893166
Depending on the period of Medieval you're looking for, the Crusades expansion for Saga might be worth looking at. There's also our very own Chauvachee anon who's got a set of rules floating around here somewhere.

WW2 there's Bolt Action (28mm) and Flames of War (15mm), both of which are reasonably popular. Do you have any idea what people play in your local area?
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>>46893166
With Medieval Knights there are a decent amount of rulesets. Hail Caesar comes off the top of my head. You can get some of Perry's very very nice 100 Years War or WotR knights, which are an amazing bargain for 28mm figures.

For WW2 the two biggest systems are probably Flames of War(15mm multibasing on a company level) and Bolt Action(28mm individually based on a smaller level). Flames has its own general which gives more detail than I could ever give. Bolt Action has a neat activation system, and some really well done official figures. I would recommend grabbing 3rd party 1:48 tanks though, as you can save a bundle.
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>>46893166
If you want really popular games, you could go for Saga and Bolt Action. Both are 28mm. And of course you can also play other rulesets with your armies once you have them.
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>>46893205
>>46892471
Oh I see, they're 25mm not 28mm. I'd prefer not to mix and match, it might be obvious if I have to put them next to 28mm artillery crewmen.
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WW2 you can also look into 6mm, there are a number of companies making some real nice 6mm models.
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What are some of the more interesting anti-authoritarian military forces you know of from throughout history, /hwg/? Obviously there were the straight up anarchists who fought against Franco and those who fought against the Soviets. There are also the Zapatistas and the Lions of Rojava.

Any further back historically instead of more contemporary? Might be fun to field the militant reformation-era anabaptists vs. some kind of royal and/or Church forces.
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>>46893213
>>46893217
>>46893234
>>46893234
>>46893294
Alright are there any cool systems for World War 2 Sky battles ?? I would love to have me some spitfires
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Is A House Divided a good starting point for war games?
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That'd be too cool, anon.
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>>46893311
Fuck the anabaptists.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00nkqrv was really good on the Siege of Munster though).

The various radical groups of the English Civil War come to mind, but it's arguable how much influence they really had, or how much was read into it by lefty historians in the C20th.
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>>46893311
The Blacks / Black Hundred from the RCW. Some ran around in women's clothing and put maxims on horse-drawn carts, fighting both Reds and Whites.
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>>46893533
Check your 6 is pretty good. There are a few others, check out the WW2 folder in the OP
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>>46894289
Those were the anarchists who fought against the Soviets, to whom anon already referred.
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What are some good, realistic games that simulate tactical rather than large-scale strategic combat? Say, 15-20 individuals per side, tops.

Imagine I want to develop serious plans for some kind of paintball game, for instance. Or that I want to write a very realistic story about two modern-day mafias that emerge.
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Can someone recommend for me some good, in-depth history books which tell the human story rather than just lists of events, but also go into a bit of depth about military tactics and such?

I basically want to read some books along these lines in an effort to figure out what periods I'm most interested in.
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>>46894746
anything by Antony Beevor is worth a look.
a little bit pop-history but a pretty good starting place imo.

his book covering the entirety of world war two is good. it gives you a starting point to research more in depth. before reading that book i always just thought the battle for france and poland were complete white-washes but it turns out they were hard fought, and worth looking into more

What period are you interested in though?
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>>46894746
Military Experience in the Age of Reason, by Christopher Duffy

Sextant: A Young Man's Daring Sea Voyage and the Men Who Mapped the World's Oceans by David Barrie
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>>46894746
There are no books which cover all of history (which presumably is what you want if you are trying to work out what periods you are interested in) and are in depth.

Probably best to just think about what you are interested in (most people have some idea) and then find histories of it.
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>>46894903
There's something I find aesthetically interesting about the early modern period. From a more general standpoint...

>AWI
>battles in India between Sikhs, Hindus, Muslims
>Spanish Civil War
>Sino-Japanese wars
>American Civil War
>current conflict between Kurds and ISIS, and Kurds and Syria
>golden age pirate shit
>Godzilla: Monster War

>>46895019
Thanks!

>>46895020
Yeah, I said books plural in hopes people would just recommend books on whatever eras they found the most interesting so I could read them and see which ones appeal the most to me.
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>>46894532
Check out 5 men in normandy from the OP.
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>>46894746
I recently read Soldiers and Ghosts: A History of Battle in Classical Antiquity and enjoyed it immensely.
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>>46895050
Road of Bones: The Epic Siege of Kohima 1944 by Fergal Keane is great, even if it'll make you a sad panda.

I'm just throwing out history books I've enjoyed reading, and thought were great. There are plenty which are well written, but need more care when reading (Seven Pillars of Wisdom, or Secret War about the battle of the beams, for example) . Or others which are authoraritive but drier than Riyadh (anything I cited in my dissertation for example).

When it comes to current events I really liked The War Nerd, but now it's on a subscription only website.
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>>46831761

Thanks for the heads-up, they have Goths too which I was also interested in finding (need auxilliaries)
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>>46843033

Warlord Games just re-released Wargames Factory's AWI infantry sets, and came out with an unreleased set (Hessians) as well. Perry Brothers also makes very nice sets for AWI. Both are 28mm multipart plastic, Perry is simpler to construct and nicer sculpted but I dont think they have Hessians (also anybody correct me if I'm wrong but they look pretty darn close to useable as SYW Prussians...)

As for rules, Warlord publishes Black Powder, a somewhat streamlined ruleset focused on large-scale battles with lots of figs, and an AWI supplement.

A better entry-point might be Muskets and Tomahawks, a skirmish game set in French+Indian/AWI with army lists for both wars.

A box of Americans and a box of Brits from either Perry or Warlord would be plenty for two starting warbands (or w/e they're called) and probly run you about 50-60 USD, both Black Powder and Muskets and Tomahawks are available in OP (Horse and Musket folder) if you want to skim them and see if either looks cool to you.

I've seen some people game Spanish Civil War using Bolt Action, but figs are all metal and therefore rather pricey. I can't remember the manufacturers but I think I found two or three when I was tempted to start a spanish foreign legion force a few months back
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>>46892921

i think i read it in the back of an older osprey, of one old-school "serious" wargaming style where the two players don't even see the table, instead they sit in separate rooms and send orders by "runner" to the referees who move the pieces, and get notes in return informing them of the situation on the ground

sounded cool, though in retrospect it's kinda close to just being a video-game without a computer
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>>46896574
That's one of the classic attempts to simulate the complexities of command-and-control, it's very much something from the Featherstone School of 70's wargaming (see pic related).
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>>46890524

Is it not too much "British oriented"? Your AAR ended with a win of those Red Coats again and even Benito remarks the British proficiency shooting on everything in almost every situation.

http://mylardiesgames.blogspot.com.es/2016/04/sharp-practice-first-shots.html

All of us love Sharpe and would like to play games "based" on it, but not "to play a Sharpe´s episode" when one side will always have the upper hand cos "He is so awesome".

I love CoC but playing Ruskis against Krauts it's always the kind of game that the soviet player has to be prepared to loose hard, ever with Late-War lists. I'm worried SP2 would have the same tendency between Red Coats vs everyone...

So yeah, it would be so nice to take a glance to those SP lists and faction rules. Thanks anon.
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>tfw no good rulebooks uploaded in the mediafire for games set between Napoleon and WWI
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