Vronak is best snowflake, prove me wrong.You can't.
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Previous thread is >>46763285 even
there
>>46778560
I'm OP of all other flake threads. How dare you start a new thread before me, you trolling faggot.
>>46778493
Yeah, the decent ones should get a bit of love or else all we'll have are the shitflakes.
>>46778676
Well, the stance of the thread, which is probably for the best, is that all snowflakes are shit, but iv Vronak is now claiming to be the best he has forfeited his protection of being judged no better or worse than others.
>>46778676
Did you like Gaia? Or is she a shit flake? I'm just curious. I want to know if my creation is well-received. I'm a fan of oldwalkers being more a part of the setting than actual characters.
>>46778706
But Vronak is best and better than shitflakes like >>46778707.
Posting the last made compilation until the usual anon returns, start discussions people.
>>46778707
Considering OldWalker the idea is actually not that outlandish, and it's pretty neat given the implications as to why we never have cat-people here, among others. Cool thing, would use as RPG setting.
>>46778560
Is that Vronak's original sheet?
>>46778726
Based on my roll here, >>46778626 it would appear the next matchup of all the walkers (except Razorcock) would be Harla vs Sonia.
Sonia being a pacifist, I assume Harla wins by default.
>>46778707
More like gay ayyyy.
>>46778707
I think it's a rather unique idea. Tragic at the same time, as she must remain unconscious (partially), or else lose the thing she loves the most.
>>46778794
That was my idea behind it. I'm ok with the idea of all-powerful (or nigh all-powerful) beings, but only if there's a catch. The catch for her is her freedom and soul.
>>46778781
Agreed.
Ok, guys... here's my snowflake...
>>46778770
Yes, it's good enough that he doesn't need another, ever.
Here's all of his spells. He's so powerful that I need three pictures to contain them all.
>>46778887
>>46778887
Bro. We know you're not the creator. Chill with your trolling. Go back to sucking that big Domain walker dick. Pleasure your master.
>>46778726
To remind people making new flakes...
The under-populated colors and color combinations are:
>Blue, with one.
>Simic, with one.
>Esper, with one.
>Abzan, with one.
>Jund, with one.
>Naya, with one.
>Bant, with one.
The over-populated colors and color combinations are:
>Boros, with five.
>Selesnya, with four.
>Temur, with four.
The over-populated origin plane is:
>Innistrad, with eight snowflakes.
The planes that no one has come from yet are:
>Ulgrotha
>Kamigawa
>Lorwyn
>>46778904
>>46778880
Also, here's the card.
>>46778880
I like the reference to Braids. Good on you. Overall not a bad concept.
>>46778726
Did I miss something? I thought there were three Naya flakes.
>>46778970
I believe one of them shifted to straight W/R, because in retrospect he didn't feel green was needed for the concept.
Rolled 15, 26 = 41 (2d48)
>>46778707
I like the implementation of this one. Immense power at the cost of eternal sacrifice seems fitting, and a nice contrast to a lot of the really strong walkers (and some flakes) that have a lot of power and zero responsibility.
Her plane sounds like it'd be interesting to have a set on, too. I like dreamscape-style sleeping god shit.
>>46779131
The plane is literally Earth, though. Sorry to disappoint.
>>46778726
>Nine flakes from "land unknown"
Please explain
>>46779216
For the most part that just means "not from an established plane and didn't make up a name."
>>46779207
>The plane is literally Earth, though. Sorry to disappoint.
Not really. Definitely not Earth. It's Gaia's Realm.
>>46779216
If you want to count the flakes from their own invented planes, it's fifteen.
>>46773924
>Ariadne lore shattering
>Cuz a golem can have a spark from a dead guy but an angel no
Fuck off Maro
>>46779131
>15, 26
These two?
>>46778726
>Which is the most boring snowflake?
>Which is the most Mary Sue snowflake?
>Which is the most Tumblr snowflake?
>Which is the most off-color snowflake?
>Which is the edgiest snowflake?
>Which is the most lore-shattering snowflake?
>>46779431
Oh man. Belloski has this this one beat so hard. He would con the shit out of poor little Mihails.
Here's me. It was only after I was almost finished that I scanned the other submissions and saw Mihails, so I hope that mine is sufficiently blue enough to be different.
>>46779355
Yeah, but that was Urza's spark.
QUICK
All the walkers in an overpopulated color combo of your choice meet, what happens!?
>>46779451
>>Which is the most boring snowflake?
The cock
>>Which is the most Mary Sue snowflake?
Vronak
>>Which is the most Tumblr snowflake?
Katin
>>Which is the most off-color snowflake?
Vronak
>>Which is the edgiest snowflake?
Shauna
>>Which is the most lore-shattering snowflake?
Irriad
>>46779641
>>>Which is the most boring snowflake?
>The cock
You take that fucking back. Unglued walker is amazing. Unglued was amazing.
>>46779431
>they're even currently on the same plane
As Mihails' creator I can safely say he has not got a chance in hell here, pending something really stupid happening in that fight.
On the other Mihails would totally be down with helping Belloski work on his travel guide, assuming he got to interview a dragon(?) in exchange.
Reposting Acervus because no feedback last time.
Also, should I post my Selesnya flake even though the color combo is overpopulated?
>>46779741
Out of curiosity, does he feel guilty over leaving Bant?
>>46779431
Jew dragon wins hand down.
Everyone knows that if all the snowflakes were in the same room, they'd all be having a massive orgy.
>>46779509
>Belloski doesn't even need to get his hands dirty
>He can just sell a cursed amulet or send Milhaus to his doom
Feels good to have created the dragon Jew
>>46779728
They could work together, especially since Belloski wouldn't (immediately) fuck over Mihalis.
>>46779451
>Which is the most boring snowflake?
Corvin
>Which is the most Mary Sue snowflake?
Vronak
>Which is the most Tumblr snowflake?
Kaina
>Which is the most off-color snowflake?
Huija
>Which is the edgiest snowflake?
Irriad
>Which is the most lore-shattering snowflake?
Unit IV
>Bonus: Most useless snowflake?
Sonia. Who the fuck wants a pacifist?
>>46778726
Xaniphe lacks Theros symbol
>>46779822
Shit I hadn't thought about that. I guess he would?
>>46779848
Really it'd be even easier than that. I decided I didn't want Mihails to be the combat type when I was designing him, which is why all you need to do is get rid of his book and he's just an eight-year old with amnesia.
I'm down with Belloski wrecking Mihails' ass to get him as a business partner; he doesn't have any major interest in artifacts once he's done cataloguing them, so he could provide wares for the jew dragon's business.
>>46779983
>>46779983
>Razorcock declares Belloski the winner
>The next round is called.
Rolled 48, 25 = 73 (2d56)
>>46780017
There's fifty-six snowflakes these days.
>>46780065
There's more if you count the new ones.
>>46779981
I imagined that would be the case. Any good knight of Bant knows all about duty (and your snowflake seems like a good person. His and mine (Kolya) would get along.)
So I assume he would feel a duty and obligation towards Bant, if not outright affection. I totally understand also feeling obligated to Innistrad after the Cathars saved his life. Bit of tension, there.
When Elspeth left Bant, she still felt loss, but also felt like she didn't belong anymore. That doesn't seem to be the case for your fellow. So you might want to explore his reason for not returning to Bant.
>>46778986
I guess that's alright. I'd rather have a bunch of 1 and 2 colours than a fuckton of 3 colours.
>>46780065
Izari vs Corvin?
here's my second ever snowflake. my first one was removed from the list for some reason? new management?
it was a long time ago anyway, and i like this one better. is it stated anywhere how long it takes goblins to reach maturity, and how long it was between phyrexians winning over mirrodin and elesh raiding the great furnace? only issue is I don't know if this guy's timeline's feasible in lore.
>>46780210
Izari, I'd say. It takes balls to survive Grixis, and Corvin (besides being bland) seems very nonchalant. If it came down to life or death, I'd put my money on the former.
>>46780257
I like the backstory, but the colors seems off. A Goblin without Red is possible, but you also have him going further to associate with Izzet, but give him Dimir colors.
>>46780358
Izari creator here.
She's also a disciple of Pharika, so...
I don't know much about Corvin, though.
>>46780431
>>46779641
Aside from being a "they" how is Katin Tumblr?
>>46780481
That's enough tumblr for me
>>46780481
That's precisely it. The lack of gender is why the character is Tumblr bait.
Ginger's a reverse trap and Acervus looks like a woman but at least they use sensible pronouns.
>>46780481
Note that it's *most* tumblr.
>>46780520
So Ashiok and Karn are Tumblr bait?
>>46780571
Ashiok is
>>46780358
Zix here. I wanted a goblin without red specifically which I guess is a little sue ish. Mono black goblins exist, and the other colour I usually see them in is blue, so that was that. No goblins in Dimir, and I kinda like the idea of a character being part of a guild they don't quite gel with. That, and Dimir doesn't do artifacts all that much and he's from former mirrodin.
Does that make sense? Tinkerer might not be the best class in retrospect.
>>46780520
desu does anyone care about what alt right people think about your flake? They're generally retarded
>>46778726
>Razorcock
>Chicken
Oh god I want to see the full version of this
>>46780584
Nah, I don't think it's too sue-ish. The bit about not being the brightest blue mage, but determined, made him seem very genuine. I just thought the associations were a bit off-color, but those are good reasons for having them.
>>46780520
Acervus is a pretty boy, but at least he is a legitimate male, right?
>>46780640
I don't have the flake sheet, but I saved his card.
>>46779451
>>>Which is the most Tumblr snowflake?
All of them. Creating OC "snowflakes" is tumblr incarnate. Not that I have an issue with it, but let's not play pretend.
>>46780674
This is not really that different from roleplaying. What makes it tumblr is how one does it.
>>46780674
Hence the inclusion of 'most.'
>>46780642
Acervus' (and Katin's) creator here.
Yes, he is.
>>46780695
Tumblr is a porn site, so unless your character is porn based, I don't see how.
>>46780723
Good stuff. Since I've got your attention, why the gender games with Katin? Or are we missing something.
>>46780665
Thanks
>>46780640
Here you go. Enjoy.
>>46780792
Double thanks
>>46780769
Half because I couldn't decide if I wanted Katin to be a guy or a girl. Half becauseit's my fetish.
>>46780898
Creepy. And confirmed for most tumblr, desu. Thanks for being honest, though.
>>46779629
DIOMEDES LEADS THEM TO GLORY! FOR IROAS!
>>46780948
>fetishes not being the most tg of things.
>>46779629
They all are separated in Naughty and Nice list. then the nice beat the naughty to deathWith gifts
>>46780948
No problem, man.
Bonus fun fact:Acervus is partially a reference. Guess what to.
>>46781174If it's not "A Cervix" I'm going to be disappointed.
>>46781224
reposting my first flakesend help before I make a fourth one
>>46781239
...FUCK HOW DID I NOT NOTICE THAT
>>46781224
>green/black
>clearly has a flame in her hand and red hair
>>46781442
>red has never been used in draining effects
I didn't even notice the hair was red, actually. What's wrong with red hair?
Honestly, I picked a picture out of Google that looked good and not edgy.
WHO AMONG YOU FLAKES WILL STAND BESIDES ME, DIO, AND FIGHT FOR GLORY?
>>46780454
>>46781224
Hm. I feel like if Corvin's bardic legend shenanagans don't take forever to set up, he's got the fight tucked up, but if Izari gets the jump on him with her poison stuff she wins.
Corvin's profile doesn't suggest he's as willing to promptly kill a bitch as Izari is, so I'd say Izari probably triumphs, although only in circumstances where the two need to fight. They don't seem like they'd normally have a conflict with each other, but that applies to so many flakes it's not even worth considering.
The fourth of a cycle, a black flake. Not totally sure about it but I wanted less edge, more grit for the character.
>>46781012
>>46781842
Whenever I see Diomedes I think of the captain in Dawn of War who shouts IT IS THE BEHNBLEYDE
>>46781678
>What's wrong with red hair
It's a color she's not associated with and generally planeswalkers outfits and shit are associated with their color in a way, like how Chandra is all red, Jace wears all blue etc etc. If I was to guess her colors by look I'd guess R/U or America colors
>>46781935
Let's be fair, while color themes are well and good, it'd be kinda weird if every red planeswalker was a ginger and/or was wearing red all the time.
The gatewatch generally have the power rangers "always wearing my color" thing covered, but it seems unlikely all other walkers would be so fashion marketing conscious.
>>46781935
Also I don't really care, I was just being nit picky for the hell of it. I actually like the image
>>46778560
>>46778887
Entomb and Cabal Therapy don't work the way the creator thinks they do. With Entomb it isn't casting a copy of the body of a creature spell and putting it into the ground it's literally burying something that's already there, Cabal Therapy also doesn't leave a corpse because it removes the spell from the targets mind so they can't cast it. The other's are generic Liliana spells.
>>46778904
Akroma was a vengeful mass murderer and never let people get close so studying her would be very difficult.
Avacyn would never work with someone who used necromancy so that's more studying from afar while the object of study would try to kill the one studying.
Griselbrand and Jin-Gitaxias are the ones I see who are most likely to let the planeswalker study them, in return for favors so pretty much making deals with demons.
Visara is a gorgon, she killed anyone who got close to her cave and is very difficult to study a a result.
Sheoldred was very busy fighting the other Steel Thanes but was very up close and personal about Compleating her subjects so she's difficult to study.
Urabrask told his people to leave the Mirrians alone unless they got in the way, but his title is the hidden so pretty hard to study.
Iona probably doesn't even notice people so I guess that's easy.
Gisela is like Avacyn on crack, she's maim and kill all necromancers so that's the opposite of what a necromancer would want in studying someone.
>>46778934
These seem like something a necromancer would carry around, but they're a bit powerful.
So in the end this is Liliana but believing that game=lore fully.
>>46782029
Fuck you, you don't need to study creatures, you just know the mana they're made of. All a planeswalker needs to know is that Akroma is 5WWW and bam, they can summon her.
Prove me wrong, oh wait, you can't. Fuck you and your made-up shit of having to 'study' creatures to summon them. Planeswalkers can summon whatever the fuck they want.
>>46782066
In Drop for Drop, Kiora had to form a bond with Arixmethes or she wouldn't be able to summon a copy on Zendikar.
>>46782098
That's because she wanted to literally teleport him on to Zendikar, you fucking moron. She wanted to transport the actual fucking Arixmethes between the planes.
Read, if you know how to.
>>46782066
You can't summon anything that you're not at least familiar with.
You have have greater familiarity to create
specific creatures, like Legendaries.
>>46782124
As disputed in the previous thread, you can't pull living creatures to other planes because they can't survive the Blind Eternities. Copies are made by your use of mana to pull a facsimile from the Blind Eternities that is made of Aether.
>>46782124
It doesn't say that, though it does say.
>Come to me, she willed him. I need to get the sense of you.
She needed to form a bond mana or otherwise to be able to summon a copy to other planes.
>>46782188
>>46782173
You're taking it too literally.
Besides, find a source that says that you can't teleport creatures from one plane to another. Here's a hint, you can't, fuckboys.
You can make copies of any creature that you figure out the mana cost of or you can teleport creatures from other planes to yours if you're familiar with them. That's how this shit works, idiots.
>>46781873
He should join the Theros rangers as the dirty fighting smart guy.
>>46782245
It's in The Eternal Ice, but if you wan the planeswalkers can bring things with them that's in the the secretist novels.
>>46782340
Wrong, the Eternal Ice says that exact opposite. It proves me write. Read it, if you've got eyes.
>>46782340
Fuck it's Agents of Artifice .
>>46782365
The Eternal Ice talks about summoning, and Agents of Artifice talks about planeswalkers can't bring living creatures with them or across the blind eternities.
Rolled 36, 25 = 61 (2d56)
We've had this argument at least four times now. It never seems to get beyond
>"That's not how summoning works."
>"Yes it is!"
Maybe it would be better if we just dropped it? It's clear nobody's changing stances on the matter.
Rolling for two more 'flakes to throw in the ring.
>>46781295
I don't even know if that's what he had in mind, but it would be ironic.
>>46781842
Glory? Glory, you say? What a petty reason to fight and a waste of your might. You should fight to protect the weak and innocent of the multiverse from the myriad evils that infest it.
>>46782405
And both of them prove me right. What's your point?
>>46781842
>born weak and dim
>family decides to train him extra hard
>not infanticide
Doesn't sound very Akroan m'boy
>>46782422
Izari vs. Deka, eh?
We've already gone over the offensive prowess of Izari, but I don't think you can underestimate a Cathar who survived Innistrad and had at least some training from Thalia.
Deka might have greater potential, but it seems like she is still learning about her powers, where as Izari has been a walker for longer. On the grounds of experience, I vote Izari.
>>46782462
That's the opposite of what they do. Eternal Ice says you need to either know the creature or study it closely. AoA says that planeswalkers can't bring living things across the blind eternities.
>>46782245
>Teleport between planes.
This is the worst part of your argument, to be frank. Not even Planeswalkers teleport between planes, being flung through the Blind Eternities by their spark by their intentions. This is to say that the only way to move between planes is to be able to access the space between them, which is confirmed to be impossible to survive except by Planeswalkers and a rare handful of things (such as the Eldrazi).
You can't just ignore the hard canon that separates out the planes and makes Planeswalkers special, and then insert terms that aren't relevant.
The decision on how to interpret the limits of summoning have changed through the game's history, especially regarding the mending. However, it's been cited already that the creative team, which is literally an authorial source for the game, runs on the concept that all summoning works on pulling creatures from the Aether. Please, just stop misinterpreting the lore when no sources that you quote for this purpose explicitly support you while several sources are against you.
>>46782504
Unless you can quote it exactly, I'm pretty sure you're misremembering, fuckboy.
>>46782506
The creative team means literally nothing, they can't write for shit. Fuck, they wish they could write a planeswalker as good as Vronak.
>>46782569
>The people that determine the lore don't matter.
Well. I think everyone's done with you now.
>>46782569
I can't believe I almost fell for it.
Well I fell for the first part.
>>46782569
I hope you've enjoyed your time in the spotlight. Kindly stop shitting up the thread now.
>>46782589
I can't believe you take the people who are ruining Magic seriously.
Summoning really doesn't take much effort. I mean, during BfZ, she summons Lorthos and then quite literally ten minutes later she conjures a gigantic wave that nearly washes the Jacetice League away.
>>46782489
Man, the dice like Izari tonight, huh?
I think you have a point. Typically if someone just started as a planeswalker they don't have a ton of experience with how to even use mana or an understanding of many spells. Deka is likely an extremely formidable combatant, Cathars kinda have to be, but I'd give this one to Izari on the basis someone who knows what they're doing in a planeswalker duel is assuredly going to be the winner.
>>46782173
Why can't you pull anything beyond the planes?
Could you kill a creature and then resurrect it? If so, could you kill it, move its corpse to a new plane and then resurrect it?
How do planar gates work then?
If non planeswalkers can't ever travel, why was liliana so worried about griselbrand?
>>46782029
>Avacyn would never work with someone who used necromancy so that's more studying from afar while the object of study would try to kill the one studying.
Avacyn's less than a decade old, she was created just before Sorin beat Nahiri's ass and planeswalked to Zendikar for the Zendikar block. She's not got enough experience to know someone's a necromancer so immediately.
![f_untitledmvm_4b54bbb-1[1].png~c200.png](https://i.imgur.com/WW60vda.png "f_untitledmvm_4b54bbb-1[1].png~c200.png")
>>46782764
>>46782764
The Avacynian church is centuries old at this point, you fucking moron. Nahiri and Sorin fought like a thousand years ago.
>>46782805
What? It's true. There's nothing that says otherwise anywhere. If she didn't already look like a grown woman when Sorin summoned her, she would be illegal.
>>46782832
There's literally nothing that says that anywhere. The events of the latest fiction happened literally minutes before the Zendikar block.
>>46782737
And both times, the consensus is a win for Izari. I'm sticking around in the hopes that my flake shows up eventually.
Rolled 8, 11 = 19 (2d56)
>>46782873
Have another then.
>>46782764
>>46782837
>The three angels had a long and complicated relationship with Avacyn. Gisela, Bruna, and Sigarda weren't truly sisters, not in any way that the word described humans. But they had come from the same essence, the same dawn times, and they had fought the horrors of the world together for a very long time. Before Avacyn had first appeared, a thousand years ago, there had been four sisters, one the eldest and most powerful of the angels. Bruna. Gisela. Sigarda. And the one they would no longer name.
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-story/gaze-blank-and-pitiless-2016-03-09
>>46782759
>How do planar gates work then?
Planar gates haven't worked since the Mending.
>>46782897
That just means that there were four sisters a thousand years ago. Not that Avacyn existed back then, because Avacyn is less than ten years old.
Learn some reading comprehension.
>>46782896
Ginger and Forpols...
GOTTA GO FAST vs a fun guy who has nonetheless taken a very, very long time to pick a new home for the thallids to live in peace.
Ginger can always escape, but probably can't do any lasting damage to Forpols, who would kick his ass if he stuck around. I'd consider retreat defeat by forfeit, so I'm giving this one to the fungus among us.
>>46782940
>A thousand years ago, Avacyn single-handedly destroyed their sister and her entire small flight, and they had made the very mention of her name forbidden.
Read the story, faggot.
>>46782029
1) Entomb is a spell. You are taking a summon spell from your spellbook and manifesting a corpse into the ground.
2) No one ever said Cabal Therapy leaves a corpse behind. Cabal Theropy performs exactly how you stated it.
3) You can't say "generic Liliana spells" for cards that all existed before there was even a Liliana.
4) Liliana only has two abilities that are akin to the Reanimator spells. And that is her ultimate on her very first printed card. Which WotC intergrated as it was a popular theme for black. And her Origins card as it was made to mimic her first first printed card's themes. Every other card of her has never had any reanimate abilities on it.
5) You don't have to get close to a creature to study it. Zoologists observe animals from afar every day and usually without anything ever knowing they were even there.
6) Akroma was not a mass murderer. She only vowed to kill one being, Phage. And she faught along side a lot of other beings to achieve this end.
7) Avacyn wouldn't kill a human in any regard prior to her corruption.
8) Again, no creature has to ever know that it was ever being studied to begin with. Let alone having to make deals with Griselbrand or Jin-Giraxias.
9) I feel like you've spouted this non-sense before and last time multiple people corrected you and said you were stupid.
10) Again, don't have to be close to Sheoldred or Visara to study them.
11) Urabrask is only "the Hidden" because no one knew where he slumbered. He was still out and about when he was massacring the locals.
12) You know nothing about Iona.
13) Gisela won't kill a human. Ever. Under any circumstances.
14) Don't argue with >>46782066. He's just trolling you.
15) Stop making shit up like you know any of the lore at all.
Can we ban the span of time regarding Avacyn's creation, what happened to Elspeth, and how Summoning works in the OP of future threads? That'd be great.
>>46782764
Stepping outside the timeline argument for a moment, let's just look at Innistrad itself. You're saying that the Avacynian church, and Avacyn are less than a decade old. But the flavor and implications within the story don't support that.
Let's take one very simple example. Avacyn herself wiped out the White/Black angelflight. Yet the name of the flight and the angel leading it were already lost to memory. That happened in less than ten years?
What about the walls of Thraben that have never been breached due to their protective (Avacynian) charms? Were the city walls built that recently?
Or perhaps the Tomb of the Lunarchs where Mikaeus was interred. Was he one of the first to go in?
How about the Cathars? Were they developed in less than 10 years?
The entire culture of Avacyn worship sprung up in 10 years? Not even Jesus could do that.
>>46782952
You're taking it too literally. They don't literally mean a thousand years ago, it was just a long time ago in the eyes of Sigarda and she's a dumb bimbo angel who doesn't really have a good measurement of time.
Angels are pretty dumb so it would make sense that Vronak would be able to outsmart them and make servants out of them.
>>46782979
Yeah, that sounds good. I can't tell if the dude that has been making these ridiculous argument is the same guy and just trolling, different guys who are trolling, or a six-legged hamster.
>>46781873
>It could be that a planeswalking mother is the solution to that particular problem.
Oh boy, this is gonna get rapey.
>>46782991
I truly, genuinely hate you.
>>46782896
I feel like both would just opt to avoid combat. They don't have a reason to fight. But if I had to pick, I'd go with Ginger. The fungus ran rather than fought, while Ginger seeks to test his skills. If push came to shove, I think Ginger would have it.
(Also, thanks for the rolls.)
>>46783012
It's definitely just the same guy trolling. Certain styles of argument and phrases keep re-appearing, such as "You're taking it too literally." You may as well play it safe and just disregard any argument that misquotes a source.
>>46783012It's one guy who is trolling and one guy who is legitimately serious. See >>46782975.
Rolled 40, 34 = 74 (2d56)
>This thread
Christ, is this the fourth time people have fed the trolls this much?
>>46781842
For glory and Love, cuz love is all you need
>>46783048
What is that, Ariadne vs Marjanah?
I'm picking the old Serra's Realm Angel, because that shit is rare and definitely no joke.
>>46782124
>>46782098
>>46782173
>>46782188
>>46782245
>>46782340
>>46782365
>>46782405
>>46782504
>>46782506
>>46782569
>>46782620
>>46782635
>>46782759
You faggots are arguing with a troll.
And alsoC if any of you paid attention to Drop for Drop, Thassa explicitly said that she would not allow Kiora to take the creature.
Not copy it. Not make a spell to duplicate it. Not study it.
Take it. She was going to straight up take the big bastard. Like she does with all her creatures.
>>46782940
Avacyn is around 1,000 years old.
>>46783048
One of my flakes was picked
>>46783097
Yeah, I'd say among other things it's easy for somebody that can fly to get the drop on a blind opponent, and angels are typically way more powerful than humans. If it's those two, I'd be betting on Ariadne unless Marjanah had some prep time to make, I dunno, zero-visibility sandstorms for cover and put them back on even ground.
>>46783077
>>46782426
Two more to Victory! We shall fight for glory, love, and to shield the weak from the umbrage of the strong!
>>46782479
Fuck that noise. Just train harder faggot.
>>46783012
>six-legged hamster
If it's a legendary hamster, Vronak can abosrb it.And try to summon it's real body during a summon and fail.
>>46783048
Marjanah vs. Ivander
The self-hating wolfir obviously has plenty of strength, but is consumed by rage. I think in any fight against someone who isn't a total weakling, and can keep his cool, then can put him down like the mad dog he is. But I don't think Marjanah is strong enough. She seems more than a bit frail. So the mad dog gets my vote.
>>46783077
I do enjoy the angel-walkers. Though of the three, I think Kolya is the least lore-breaking as he started as human (and still is one, technically).
>>46783195
>>46783164
>Not ariadne
Welp, not happy anymore
>>46783195
>>46783177
>>46783097
Nevermind, did my counting wrong. Vote for Ariadne for reasons stated.
>>46783226
Damn it, man, you have put >>46783219 on a roller coaster of emotion!
>>46783234
Evidently!
>>46783219
My pardons, good sir.
>>46783195
Vronak doesn't summon the original creature or it's corpse.
>>46778726
Flake anon! Flake anon! Quick, we need an updated board! So many flakes are pouring in so quickly!
FLAKE ANON I SUMMON THEE!!!
Vronak needs to either be made five color, with a five color type of ability, and UWRBG mana cost, or mono black and remained the same.
Otherwise it's toxic, cancerous shit, and easily the worst, most hilariously misbegotten snowflake to arrive in the last thread and beyond.
I mean, the fanfiction that guy put out kind of makes it so already, but sheesh, at least he could design a halfway decent card around it to make up for his terrible excuse at self insert writing.
nothin' personelle vronak kid.
Rolled 20, 50 = 70 (2d56)
>>46783097
>>46783177
>>46783226
It seems like the votes are coming in pretty overwhelmingly for Angelwalker. And after Marjanah beat Razorcock in the very first pre-elimination fight, too. Shame.
>>46783291
Anna vs Shauna?
>>46783291
Anna vs Shauna?
Not sure how to vote on this one. Mostly because Shauna has about no details.
Anyone have the character bios?
>Sorin "Slaughter Your Daughter" Markov
>Sorin "Kill Your Children" Markov
>Sorin "Defile Your Child" Markov
>Sorin "Get Rid of Your Kid" Markov
>Sorin "Get Stabby With Your Babby" Markov
>Sorin "Mutilate Her if You're Her Creator" Markov
>Sorin "You Wrangle Her, You Strangle Her" Markov
>Sorin "You Raise Her, You Raze Her" Markov
>Sorin "You're Her Father, Only You Can Stop Her" Markov"
>Sorin "If You Birthed Her, Murder Her" Markov
>Sorin "Cast Vindicate Targeting What You Created" Markov
>Sorin "No Side Like Filicide" Markov
>>46783269
It's WUBRG.
I'll be making him into a flip card. And his transformed side will have abilities akin to the other mana colors.
And how old are you, Kid? How much do you weigh? And why do you say personelle instead of personal?
I feel like you're 16, weight 250+, and can't get along with anyone at all and its significantly hard for you to make and keep friends.
You're making your poor mother cry at night, anon. Start changing yourself for her. Do it for her, anon!
>>46783360
Creative.
>>46783360
>Sorin "Get Stabby With Your Babby" Markov
>>46783360
>Sorin "You Raise Her, You Raze Her" Markov
It makes me sad and it makes me laugh
>>46783291
Shauna, I suppose? Though Anna did survive a law-mage. It's hard to know without bios, frankly. Is a tie, possible?
>>46778726
Before today, I had no idea that Nomad and Advisor were creature types.
>>46782737
>Man, the dice like Izari tonight, huh?
It's nice seeing my flake come up.
>>46783354
Here is Anna's sheet. Once I finish the story I'm doing, I will go back and try to make it more flavorful but I was just trying to put in representatives from each deck I'm doing (and firespout for when she flipped her shit and blew up the law-mage)As for Kurkesh, it's basically from her obsessing over scrolls she found about the Onakke and actively searching the ruins for whatever information she can find to get a good enough picture of the ancient artificer in her head
>>46783474
They were more common "classes" in the older days. They don't come up nearly as often as the common ones like soldier and knight.
>>46783465
I think we should probably assume no ties, for argument's sake. One wins, one loses.
>>46778707
This one is nice. Good flavor and good balance for a domain walker.
Also, am I the only one that noticed "Arda" and "Eldar"? Is this planeswalker from Middle-Earth?
>>46783474
>Dark Confidant isn't an Advisor
wtf??
>>46783523
I thought the same thing.
>>46783512
>>46783506
Based on the character sheet, Anna seems plenty strong. And smart enough to handle what is essentially a berseker. Vote for Anna.
>>46783560
>I thought the same thing.
That she had good balance and good flavoring or that she was from Middle-Earth?
>>46783512
I'm not even sure if some of those advisors even should be advisors. Belloski is a merchant, which strikes me as 'Artificer', unless I'm forgetting something. Astera doesn't seem to be advising a thing, with 'traveling satyr looking for a yarn', which seems more like Nomad, funnily enough. Rinteller looks like a knight to me, but I dunno, he might be something different, I haven't seen his card. Vanya works, I suppose, given that she's a spyder.
>>46783606
Advisor and Artificer are typically the two used to demonstrate being a merchant, so it's probably a toss-up between them since there's no "Merchant" creature class.
Speaking as Astera's creator, I mostly made her an advisor because she tries to emulate the traveling philosophers of theros, who are Human Advisors.
>>46783597
Both, actually. >>46778794 was me.
>>46783523
>>46783560
Gaia's maker here. To answer your questions, yes she does come from Tolkien's Arda. Or at least an exact copy of it. I figured "Eh, what the heck? LotR is great and this is a flake thread". I couldn't think of another fantasy plane more appropriately old, classic, and well-developed. And I couldn't think of a better humanoid race to spawn this level of planeswalker than the Quendi. Specifically speaking, her spark ignited before the War of Wrath after the First Battle of Beleriand. She was slain in the conflict, but instead of her soul going to the Halls of Mandos, her spark ignited and she went beyond and into the Void (Blind Eternities). I'm unsure if she was descended from the Noldor or the Vanyar. I'd have to do some research on the timelines to decide.
>>46783782
While you're here, is she a 40k Eldar?
>>46783795
Nope. She is specifically one of the Elves of Arda. Also called the Firstborn, the Eldar, or the Quendi.
>>46783782
So you said she manifests subconsciously on the plane. Are any of her manifestations lore characters? Is sheTom Bombadil?
>>46783885
Well, Gaia's Realm is not Arda, so I'm going to say she's notTom Bombadil. But I wouldn't be surprised if she's had dreams aboutTom BombadilorTom Bombadillike individuals. So a version ofTom Bombadilhas probably manifested on her plain numerous times, sparking its own legends ofTom Bombadil.Tom BombadilTom BombadilTom BombadilTom Bombadil
>>46784005
Had a good kek, thanks.
>>46784069
You're welcome, m8
Just listen to this chucklefuck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4kNP2sFwKc
Does this sound better?
Vronak Hourk, the Reanimator
(W/U)(R/G)(B)(B)(B)
+1: Search your library for a creature card and put it into your graveyard.
-4: Put a creature card from your graveyard onto the battlefield under your control.
0: Remove all counters from target permanent. Transform Vronak.
Starting Loyalty: 5
Vronak, Domain Overlord
-3: Gain control of target creature until end of turn. Untap that creature. It gains haste until end of turn.
-4: Put a token onto the battlefield that's a copy of any creature on the battlefield. Its a zombie in addition to its other types.
-X: Until end of turn, creatures you control get +X/+0 and gain vigilance. Transform Vronak.
>>46783606
Wasn't Rinteller a fucking guildmage? That is textbook wizard right there.
>>46784163
>>46784155
Is this Vrokak's battle hymnn?
>>46783674
Coolio, chum. Just checkin'.
>>46784182
No, he was Count Dracuteller's man servant.
>>46780665
>must shoot self 3 times before you can shoot the opponent
>>46784163
Thank god, he can kill himself.
>>46784163
All this image makes me think of is "fantasy Tiberium."
>>46784223
All Planeswalkers can kill themselves.
>>46783885
>>46784005
>>46784155
You know...what if Tom Bombadil wasn't a Maiar at all, but was a planeswalker who kept a home near the Shire for funnzies? 'Cause he liked the trees and the little folk?
>>46784233
Because the spooky green everywhere?
>>46784245
Well, he wouldn't be the first Planeswalker to sit around and not do much while wars rage.
>>46784276
You see though? It's almost too perfect.
>>46778707
Wow....i actually stand corrected. This is actually a really neat way to express a being that harnesses all five colors of mana. Usually i say that any characters above two colors are bland, mary sues but this is actually rather decent.
>>46784242
But his isn't even a minus he just dies.
>>46784352
*blushes*
Stoooop you're making me blush, anon!but keep going
>>46784258
Yeah, basically. Now I kinda want to do a fantasy Tiberium setting.
>>46784299
Too perfect. Which colors, do you think? W/G?
>>46784382
Hmmm, not W. He's too chaotic and whimsical for W. But I could see either straight G or RG. He's not wrathful, but he does appear to be short-sighted, free, and impulsive (hence the red).
>>46784163
What's a transform limit on him? Like he can just transform whenever?
>>46784382
>>46784443
I feel like Tom is a good example of a really aggro-free RG character. He's not angry or stressed or savage, he's unimaginably powerful but a whimsical fellow that prefers to take things as they come and have a good time rather than use his immense power on others.
>>46784382
And Goldberry is a River spirit he fell in love with when Arda was young. They've lived happily ever after ever since.
>>46784382
>>46784474
>>46784494
So it's established then? Tom Bombadil is a very old and powerful RG planeswalker who is too whimsical to even notice the wars of Arda?
I'm starting to think that if I made a flake with the words "psssh...nothin personnel...kid..." right there in the bio it would neither be considered a troll nor would I catch any flak for it.
>>46784527
It'd most likely be taken as ironic.
>>46784521
Fucker probably didn't even notice the mending, if it even happened to him.
>>46784527
Go one further: see how well you can disguise a famous mary sue backstory, like try to actually replicate shadow the hedgehog or whatever that thing was in planeswalker form.
You'll get a lot of unironic upboats from people too delusional to tell the difference. Write some fanfiction where your hedgehog kills koth, and Vronak's creator will be leading the charge to promote your flake for its unique and interesting lore.
>>46784676
The mending effected everyone because it effected the very nature of everything.
It's just more likely that the changes are hardly even noticable to him.
>>46784676
>>46784732
Just read his and Goldberry's wiki page. Good god it fits.
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Tom_Bombadil
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Goldberry
>>46784702
Well, actually, most people will call you a faggot, but keep your parody on the list because the blizzard runs on the assumption everything is equally shit.
>>46784474
>>46784521
If he weren't so disinterested and took more care with regards to the outside world, I'd insist on adding the white. But his carefree attitude really does preclude that.
>>46784527
>>46784702
I think I might write a flake and fanfic where my flake kills Vronak, right after forcing him to admit he's actually mono-black with no real idea how his spells work since he was dropped on his head as a child, and mommy never gave him any blue mana while he was growing up.
Hey, I'm writing Anna's origin story. Would anyone care to tell me how shit it is and how to fix what I have so far?
>>46784927
Sure. Post that shit.
Is kamahl dead at this point?
I would like to see a kamahl walker and an arcanis walker, i need my nostalgia characters revived with neo-mtg shittery.
>>46784951
Nikita walked into the meeting room with her bag under her arms, most everyone on the Student Council was already present and she knew the only reason that she was here was because the usual representative was sick. Nikita adjusted the blue cuffs that signified her proficiency with the color and adjusted the rank symbols on her collar as she took her seat at the round table. “Nikita Morov,” a voice spoke, “I'm honored to have the head of Student Affairs grace us with her presence.” Aleksander Volaiv, a student a month or two older than Nikita at most and layered under so much formal clothing that the only clear feature was his striking face and expertly trimmed brown hair. He was the head of the student council, known formally as the President since he presided over all meetings of students.
“As you know,” She took out her papers while explaining, “my vice-captain has been sick for the past few days. It wouldn't do to have her attending meetings when she won't attend class.” Nikita had been giving herself a once over the whole time she had been talking to make sure every piece of formality she had to wear was where it was supposed to be. She brushed a strand of her blonde hair out of her face as a balding man with wild red hair in the dull uniform of the Arbitrators stood up to call the meeting.
“Everyone settle down,” the older man said in a gravely voice, “We're starting this meeting of the one hundred and twentieth student council.”
“Thank you, Ubul,” Aleksander said and beckoned for the man to be seated as he looked to the dozen other students sitting around the table, “Now, does anyone have a topic of discussion or should we move onto the voting for the monthly calendar.”
“Excuse me,” A brown haired girl raised her hand, “My name is Phula and I'm here on behalf of the gardening club.”
“Go on,” Aleksander prompted.
>>46785115
“As you know, there have been attacks on students by some kind of mind mage and my club members are scared to leave their rooms.”
A younger man, at least a year Nikita and Aleksander's junior and dressed in much the same way as Aleksander, turned to the president of the council. “May I?” He asked of his superior who nodded. “Phula, my name is Purono and I'm a law-mage with the enforcement division of the student council.”
“Sir.” the brown hair girl said in acknowledgment.
“Thank you, I assure you that the members of your club are in no danger. In fact, criminal activities have dropped to near zero in the past few months.”
“But the students who were attacked,” the girl started before Purono held up his hand to stop her.
“They were involved in illegal activities on school grounds, neither I or anyone in the enforcement division have any reason to believe the attacker would target innocent people.”
“But they are still attacking students,” Nikita said bluntly, leaning in as she looked him in the eyes, “as a member of the enforcement division, you cannot by condoning such actions.”
“As a member, I need to know how to prioritize, and looking for whoever is taking care of scumbags is not a priority.” Purono responded very curtly.
“Ubul,” Nikita's gaze turned towards the Arbitrator and her former mentor, “What do you think? You're an Arbitrator, right?”
“Woah,” he held up his withered hand as in defense,“I'm just here to call the meeting and make sure you don't stab each other.” Nikita just sat back in her chair. “You all are in charge of the goings on of the campus, you want the Arbitrators to get involved, take a vote and I'll pass it on.”
>>46785137
“We don't need the Arbitrators,” Purono stood up from his seat, “there is nothing wrong, Phula, your club members are safe.” Nikita packed up the belongings she had bothered to put out and pushed out from the table to leave. “We still need to vote.” Purono told her, like he had a right to give her an order.
She looked to the student council president and he nodded, they both knew that she took any matters concerning the Affairs committee privately. “Good day, Mr. President, Student Council, Ubul.” She let some derision slip in with the last name as she left the room.
Outside of the room she saw her assistant waiting with a notebook, a short little brunette who was two years younger than Nikita. “Captain, I have some news.” She said and started walking when it was clear Nikita wasn't slowing down. “As of ten minutes ago, I am the acting vice-captain of Student Affairs and-”
Nikita stopped her mid sentence “Bali's only been absent for two days, I appreciate enthusiasm but don't loot the house before it burns.”
“Uh..” The young girl paused, trying to refocus after that expression. “No, I mean, as of ten minutes ago, Miss Bali officially resigned.” She started walking again and Nikita followed suite.
“I know she sounded depressed, but that's not like her.” Nikita mumbled, “and if it was ten minutes ago, you should have gone to that blasted meeting instead. Are we sure she wasn't coerced to quit, I need to check in on that. So why didn't-”
This time the young girl cut her off. “Ma'am, I, well I tried to find you but a goblin held me up. Apparently her club captain was attacked by the mind mage and broke down a rig he'd been working on all year.”
“For what?” She asked, snapping her fingers for the girl to hurry up, “goblins breaking down half finished projects to start something new isn't unusual.”
“Scrap, Miss Hidecrawler said he just broke it down and threw the scrap away one day.”
>>46785156
Nikita massaged her temples, surely if she said something about it to the student enforcers, they would find some way to present any goblin as a sort of criminal. “So Bali, how do we know she wasn't coerced?”
And that's all I have thus far, when I get done, I will put it in a paste bin for ease of viewing.
New to MTG and was working on building my first deck. May be the wrong place to post this but...
Anyone see anything fucked with this deck so far? Shit I should watch out for? Change? Etc?
Artifacts(4)
4x Shrine of Burning Rage
Creatures (16)
4x Furnace Scamp
4x Rakdos Cackler
4x Grim Lavamancer
4x Chandra's Phoenix
Spells (20)
4x Lightning Bolt
4x Searing Blaze
4x Staggershock
4x Flame Slash
4x Arc Trail
Land(20)
8x Mountain
4x Foreboding Ruins
4x Needle Spires
4x Teetering Peaks
Sideboard(27)
4x Chandra Pyromaster
4x Dismember
3x Act of Aggression
2x Manabarbs
4 x Dragon's Claw
4 x Ball Lightning
2x Vulshock Refugee
4x Manic Vandal
>>46785276
Depends on who you're playing with and where. Is this just casual with friends or what?
>>46785276
It never fails that we get a mechanics question.
Also, play with friends. Sanctioned gets soul draining after a bit.
>>46785348
Mostly but I do plan on going to the local card shop and doing FNM as well since they go. I would like to be somewhat competitive. Currently only looking at modern until I get a better understanding and hang of this game.
>>46785389
I would say start on drafts to get a hang of the game. And then start moving into casual formats before you go to modern. Remember, if you don't have an inoculation to lesser memes, Modern will overwhelm you.
The Meme from lowest to greatest is
Kitchen Table
Sealed
Draft
EDH
Pauper
Highlander
Modern
Standard
Archenemy
Emperor
Prism
Bitch Magic (Oh we all draw from a land pile and our main deck)
Legacy
Vintage
Vanguard
Card Fight Vanguard
Secret Ally EDH
Multiplayer
French EDH
The Heat Death of the Universe
Tiny Leaders.
>>46785477
>Vast network of spies
But shouldn't he have nothing as far as personnel goes?
>>46785635
Hmm, that's a good point.
>>46785876
Is he the new Dank Memos?
>>46785178
Also this is how I imagine Ubul's voice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evk75OFiGVU
I was thinking about making a Naya colored walker who believes that the strong will always dominate, but that it means that he must be the strongest in order to protect the weak. Is that out of color?
>>46786587
And it will include an Naya Eldrazi deck with an infinite combo (Blinky+Brood Monitor/Emrakul's Hatcher+Impact Tremors) in addition to green stompy and other good stuff. Just saying as a forewarning because I know people don't think Planeswalkers should be summoning Eldrazi.
What's the most selfless way to be a b/r hero?
What's the most selfish way to be a g/w villain?
>>46787272
>What's the most selfless way to be a b/r hero?
Self-destructive heroism, definitely using underhanded tactics to win. Destabilizing before hitting really hard, really fast. I see a really clever berserker fighting for freedom.
>>46787272
The Selesnya Conclave.
>>46787272
A B/R hero is one who believes that society holds us back and that everyone's ideas should be judged on that person's ability to defend them instead of "Oh, that's morally wrong" Or "That's not tradition"
A G/W villain might not be selfish, but I imagine the Borg would be G/W (admittedly I haven't seen any of the movies and most of my experience with the borg is them just being New Phyrexia IN SPAAAAAAAAACE)
>>46787272
>selfless b/r hero
absolutely ruthless freedom fighter in a land dominated by w tyranny. Doesn't mind sacrificing himself or others to get the job done.
>selfish g/w villain
A guy trying to bring natural order to the land, and believes he is the only one who can do it. Doesn't mind subjugation to do so.
Lore speaking would a U/R Villain work as someone who loved hamming it up and embraced how much of a cunt he was?
>>46786705
As you explain how he was able to study Eldrazi close enough to summon them, that's fine.
>>46788687
He watched blinky the eldrazi
he made love to blinky
>>46782506
Actually in the UR where Jace meets Evil Garruk, Jace does seem to teleport-planeswalk directly to Ravnica. He opens an illusion of the city behind him, and steps into it, becoming the illusion and vanishing into the real place.
Someone... Chandra perhaps, does something similar to go to Zendikar, and a few other characters open "portals" as well.
It seems that you need a good sense for where you want to go - which makes sense, with how important "true memory" is to aether magic.
>>46782759
There is no resurrection magic - at least, not on Dominaria. The whole Feldon thing was about how magic cannot resurrect, but only create a facsimile (which can be near perfect and independent).
Theros has some, but their souls work oddly.
Presumably if you were ready and waiting to catch their soul as soon as it tried to leave their body, you could do it though.
>>46782764
Aside from everyone else's evidence, we actually have an exact date for the creation of the Avacynian Church. The bloodletter story took place shortly before Avacyn Restored, and put it at 700 years ago.
>>46788823
I think it all depends on the planeswalker, one ice planeswalker would create a portal of ice to step through while Elspeth planesfalls more than anything else.
>>46788853
Just punch the soul right in the fucking face
GET BACK IN THERE!
>>46784951
The Full Shit
http://pastebin.com/P509vXHj
>>46785538
Excuse me, but what the fuck are you doing with that list? It should go something like:
>Kitchen Table
>Sealed
>Draft
>Standard
>"Supported" casual formats (ie Archenemy)(optional)
>Modern
>"Unsupported" casual formats (ie Emperor)(optional)
>Pauper
>Commander
>Legacy
>Vintage
>Variant Commander (why would you play any of these)
>>46784368
Are you thinking the 0: ability kills him? What exactly do you think is making him die?
>>46784471
Once per turn on either of your main phases. Just like Arlinn Kord.
>>46789026
Any player that could care about lore would make him target himself.
>>46789046
You really have a sad life, kid. This is a group of people coming together because we all love MtG. And you're here being a pain in people's asses. Why? Why treat people, who share a common interest in something you love, this way?
>>46785027
Kamahl died in Scourge.
We don't know shit about Arcanis, but I suspect he was intended to be a character who has visited other planes before.
>He has journeyed where none have been before. Now he returns to ensure that none follow.
Turning him into just another pit fighter in 10th was lame. I like to think Aeon Chronicler represents his current form.
