>Here's my character, anon.
>>46767350
Sure. I've been wanting to play a nautical campaign anyway, and even wrote some rules for playing merfolk and other oceanic races.
>>46767350
At least it isn't another goddamn gruff, Scottish dwarf with a chip on his shoulder about elves
>>46767350
>here's your (you), anon.
>>46767441
How many of those have you played with?
>>46767350
Nigga, we playing Dark Sun.
>>46767539
>Hilariously useless merman shotaboy gets wheelchaired around by party in dystopian desert world
>>46767350
post monsterboys
>pic probably related?
>>46767546
>useless
the party sells him as a prostitute and every Wizard King in the world wants that boypussi for rare spell components they can cut out of his abdomen, that bitch is a plot device.
>>46767507
27.
Seriously.
>>46767604
>>46767648
>>46767663
>>46767674
>>46767546
>>46767619
That's a girl, by the way.
>>46767681
>>46767696
>>46767724
>>46767733
>>46767626
Explain how
>>46767747
>>46767626
I totally get your sorrow, senpai. Never had an obnoxious, snobbish elf in a party. Had thousands and thousands of generic scottish midget drunkard axe-wielding Dorfy McDorf. No matter how many years pass, I'll never get what's with /tg/ and dorfs, except for that "we're also unwashed and with a -2 to Cha" copypasta.
>>46767759
>>46767774
>>46767806
>>46767619
Oh, so sort of like Immortan Joe's wives in Mad Max: Fury Road.
>>46767774
But that's forbidden love!
Colette pls
>>46767692
Not true.
Here's mine
>>46767441
>hating on based Dorf
>>46767773
>>46767441
>>46768418
>no tits
Re-roll or get out of my game.
>>46768719
But he's a boy!
>>46767692
>>46768732
All of the character images posted in this thread so far are of boys.
>>46768706
R. LEE ERMEY
>>46768440
No, you know it's fucking boring when you're trying to make a believable and cool character with a background capable of offering some decent plot hooks to the DM and then THAT GUY, yes, THAT GUY, shows up telling that his original idea is playing a drunkard asshole with an axe. Rigorously CN even though their usual alignment should be LG.
I mean, I'm not asking you to play a thri-kreen rogue/wizard, just... just try something that isn't a walking fucking joke, senpai.
>>46768706
Yes, this scene was funny.
WAS, that is, until every single beardaboo started unironically reposting it.
>>46767773
Because for most people it's easier to associate with a bearded manlet with a funny accent who holds a grudge against a specific group of people than with a 10/10 immortal Aryan übermensch.
>>46768889
D&D elves are also manlets though, it's not like they're Tolkien elves or anything. Dwarves are just easier to meme with, because an elf is expected to act his age.
You're a gay fish
>>46767350
I can't help but feel you'll be at a bit of a disadvantage... I mean, a tail on land?
We'll compromise, okay? How do you feel about snakes?
>>46768918
Wait, you're not gonna tell them off for trying get their shota fapbait into the game?
>>46768915
For whom?
>>46768931
What shota fapbait ?
>>46767350
God damn it Frank, I told we're running a campaign set in the year of the first crusade.
How is your fishboy even going to ride a horse or camel in the desert?
>>46768931
Not him, but no, because I'm not so insecure that I would let such a small thing befuddle me?
If people want to be be degenerate in their play-pretend, let them be. I have enough of a moral high ground to not let this shit rustle me in the slightest.
>>46768931
no, frankly that doesn't worry me at all, because i am not paralysed by paranoia
10/10? Dude, D&D elves don't even have a Charisma bonus, they are shorter humans with pointy ears and faces. But then again, the everyday casual player will imagine them as Tolkienelves, duh.
>>46767350
>Can I see your character sheet please?
>into the trash it goes
>46769053
>46768889
Sorry man, quoting's a bitch from mobile.
>>46768931
I'm the guy running the game, therefore I have ultimate control over the NPC.
I just won't indulge his magical realm. Maybe if he behaves, I'll have one or two female characters squee over how cute he is, but that's the limit of it.
Seriously, when is it ever a problem, if the GM isn't in on it? Besides, knowing my group, if he tries acting effeminate or weak, he'll get bullied out of the room.Save me. I don't indulge magical realm (much), but ffs, they approach every problem with ultraviolence and testosterone! It's impossible to run a game where something doesn't get blown up or disemboweled twice a session!
>>46767350
That's how the Mermaid campaign I'm in started.
We were going to be pirates, our That Guy wanted to be a mermaid and so we all went mermaids going on a pirate hunt.
>>46769182
>shota mermaid pirates
2spooky4me
>>46769084
>they approach every problem with ultraviolence and testosterone!
how is this a problem
>>46769182
That's nice, but did they ever get serenaded with A SONG OF THE FISH IN THE SEA
AND IT'S WINDY WEATHER, BOYS
STORMY WEATHER, BOYS
WHEN THE WIND BLOWS
WE'RE ALL TOGETHER, BOYS
BLOW YE WINDS WESTERLY
BLOW YE WINDS BLOW
JOLLY SOU'WESTER, BOYS
STEADY SHE GOES
>>46769084
>they approach every problem with ultraviolence and testosterone! It's impossible to run a game where something doesn't get blown up or disemboweled twice a session!
What consequences do you give these actions?
>>46768772
Sweet merciful fuck my eyes
>>46769407
It's supposed to be an investigation-based Dark Heresy game! Skulking through the underhive, pursued by genestealers, borrowing atmosphere from Alien: Isolation!
>>46769496
I've TRIED to kill them! I've sent bounty hunters, cultists, mutants, gangers and now even genestealer hybrids after them!
They just keep rolling well! The psyker just gives everyone a shield with a 60% chance to flat-out ignore anything I do, then unleashes a fucking black hole on the enemy! Nothing I do WORKS, as they just murder everything in one turn and tank literally any and all damage I can unleash!
>>46769437
I know that OLD BILLY RILEY WAS A DANCING MASTER
OLD BILLY RILEY
OLD BILLY RILEY
>>46769539
>Dark heresy
So, HOW is this a problem?
>>46769539
Automated Defenses Mate.
Someone that Minmaxed has a weak point. He's not an Ultramarine. Poison gas, LSD Grenades, Social Conflict that can't be resolved with physical combat thus forcing him to either act or set the party back so far they fine themselves stuck spinning their wheels, their investigations going nowhere all the clues they find keep leading them to people who are already dead. Make the party not want to support him.
>>46767350
Thats actually quite good, mermaid bone totems are up there in price with unicorn totems, so all I need is a comparable mate and I can start up my fortress breeding/harvesting program. Best part is, we don't even need to wait for them to reach adulthood, as the bone drop is the same, just let them pump out babies that immediately air drown.
For fuck's sake dude, I said you were gonna play a party of maids and butlers with guns. Where the fuck did you even come up with mermaid fuckboy? He doesn't even look slightly dapper!
>>46767866
>wives
Prized breeders, you mean
>>46769613
I've tried automatic defenses. The combat wombat tech priest just hacks them and shuts them down, or turns them on the fleshy enemies.
And I've tried poison rounds and hallucinogen grenades. They've practically never failed a toughness test! Fuck, they're mixing spook in with their own hallucinogen grenades for the lulz! The psyker is snorting the stuff neat!
And every time I put a social character in their way, then just go, "Okay lol, whatever" and leave, then go, "Right, we'll find their cogitator and hack that for the info we need!"
I try to come up with a reason like, "Uh, cogitators aren't common, guys..?" and they just reply,
"Yeah, but for an organisation this big, they HAVE to have one, right? Just to keep everything co-ordinated!" I make a point not to try and shoot down logic without better logic, so what can I even do?
And it's not ONE character! The psyker's a fanatical, drug-addled nutbar who solves everything with telekinetic ass-whuppin; the arbites is never there, due to his irl wife being in hospital lately; tech priest 1 is a close combat monster who loves everything to explode; tech priest 2 is literally only there to loot all the guns and improve them; the assassin is silent half the time, except to snipe people; then the latest addition's a fucking Atillan rough rider!
Please, GOD, what can I do to try and make them realise this system is supposed to be dangerous and lethal and you're supposed to approach every conflict with care and consideration?!
>>46769688
Daemons.
Also swap their dice for a new set you've just bought in the shop because the rolls sound suspect.
>>46769713
I've made them roll with my dice! It doesn't help!
Plus the bloody anarchists often use this sodding computer program one of them wrote... I've tested it. It is random, but their fucking luck...
And I tried a daemon at the climax of the first mission. The psyker opened a warp portal and they noped out to the extraction point. Didn't even see the damn thing, much less confront it.
It's got to the point where they're starting to get upset that my attitude is "Antagonistic." Well maybe it wouldn't HAVE to be, if you chucklefucks would suffer some fucking consequences for your actions!
>>46769656
Its a mer-maid
>>46769823
>>46769656
>He doesn't even look slightly dapper!
Of course he doesn't look dapper, he's nekkid
Get him in a butler uniform and he'll look elegant as fuck
>>46767350
No game inserts, OP.
This is my PC, I will fight my right to use old ancient doom-bringers as puppets AND my right to fight the evil oppression of pants and unacceptably long skirts. On both men and women. If your absolute territory doesn't show you're a heretic.
>>46767773
>tfw you play a personable, friendly elf who basically tries to help everyone up to and including little old ladies with cats stuck in trees
>dorffag still acts like you wrong them by fucking existing and not being an obese hairy drunk
>>46767350
>>46767350
All these sorry ass manlets hating on dorfs. The dwarfs had much cooler germanic mythology than the treefuckers. Nobody thinks prancing nymphs inflicting mental disorders on livestock is cool, and this is what the anglo-saxons believed.
>>46770235
>literally worms feeding on the carcass of the earth
>cooler than fucking Alfar
Also greasy manlets is literally who worships dwarves.
>>46770273
>blacksmithing, mead of poetry
>vs. mental disorders in livestock
no.
>>46769968
>implying you can fool anybody with your cheap tricks
>>46770301
>implying
The master smiths and poets were the elves, not the literal maggots.
>>46770400
>implying svartalvir
>>46770418
Dwarves are the svartalvir
>>46767372
This.
Hope you like ocean steampunk. Light steampunk, mind you.
>>46769182
you could have still had a mermaid pirate. Would be rather useful for rescuing crew who fell over, retrieving loot that fell into the sea.
Just keep the bugger in a barrel of seawater when you need to move around.
>>46769938
>「TWISTED SISTER」
>>46767751
Because for some reason it's one of most popular characters, especially with beginners. I personally rolled dwarf fighters like that for years when I started D&D. It's an easy character to roleplay and you get to bash elves.
>>46771160
>「NO PANTS FOR THE WICKED」
>>46771174
My first character was an human druid, then from there I explored all the classes, races, combinations and then handbooks. My bros did the same. I mean, is playing a character that isn't a walking joke THAT difficult?
How do you get around? I told you this game was taking place in a fucking high desert, and I guess it's worth mentioning now that it's far inland.
I'll allow one of the following, if you can't think of anything: You Can polymorph your tail into legs and back at will, but it feels like you're walking on glass when you're using your legs, and you take -2 CON during the effect; You can polymorph your tail into legs, but they're toddler legs.
>>46771374
>normal people
yeah but telling people that they should play something else is a little difficult and could be met with some hostility.
>>46771374
Hey, I was teenager back then and the games weren't serious, but usual murderhobo dungeon crawls, so my drunken Dorfy McDorfington just fit fine with group that usually consisted of similar walking jokes like ambiguously gay elves and absent-minded wizards with dementia.
>>46771374
>is playing a character that isn't a walking joke THAT difficult
Yes.
Not even memeing you, people nowdays put zero effort on shit in general.
Specially even worse when you have to get on making them play anything but the first system they tried or 3.5.
>>46771552
>nowadays
Are you implying that it used to something better at some point? I started this hobby in late 90s and can say zero effort joke characters nor people being stuck with their first/favorite system aren't a new thing.
>>46771681
Yeah, because back then me and my friends and the people I played with where giddy kids.
>>46767692
Oh my. Suddenly NSFW.
>>46767724
This one actually looks really cute.
>>46771174
>tfw
My first character was an elf Fighter/Mage
>>46771095
We thought about that but decided we all wanted to be Mermaids. Our DM then just reworked the script a little mostly switching the role the Imperial Navy and Pirates would play with each other.
>>46772048
>Fighter/Mage
That sounds like you were powergaming hard or trying to do so.
>>46772134
Not really, it was 2E, I was 10, and the DM suggested it because I had the stats for it and I wanted to play an elf anyway.
>>46771767
He's trolling. Artist tags on pixiv say it's a shota
Reminds me of a manga called +Anima where small children who endure a near death experience get animal totems ang can gaon a partial shift into their totem.
So you had the crow protag who could sprout wings, the androgynous pretty boy fish totem who could be a merman, the token loli with bat wings and ears and the bear totem silent dude with amnesia.
Surprisingly fun at times that mango. I'd play in that setting.
>>46767350
>as long as you take a -5 agility penalty on land (for balance reasons)
>>46773126
Merfolk characters in PF just move very slowly on land, but extra fast in water.
Why a massive agility penalty exactly? Shouldn't it just be you suck at walking?
>>46769763
You ever think that the reason they RIP AND TEAR in every session is because you keep sending them a constant stream of things to kill due to your fixation on "punishing" them?
>>46769084
What if he wants his boypussy stretched?
>>46773622
It's like a self-fulfilling prophecy
>>46769084
>>46769539
>>46769688
>>46769763
Put them in a Justice Field. Anything they do gets rebounded onto themselves.
Also, talk to your players. Ask them why they insist on killing things.
>>46767350
>There's the door, anon.
>>46771174
My first character was a dwarf fighter too.
>>46767350
>And here's mine.
>>46774505
>>46767350
i am lucky in the sense my players are not assholes trying to punk me in every session
>>46774581
![Unconventional_Armour[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/CchGr4N.jpg "Unconventional_Armour[1].jpg")
And here's mine.
>>46772240
Holy shit I havent seen that manga in years.
>>46774581
Is that that one fat youtuber? Boogie?
>>46774799
Yes
>>46770235
Nordic dwarves were just dark elves, depending on the translation.
>>46767441
>>46767773
>>46769968
>>46768889
Sounds like someone hasn't played a fookin' dwarf! That, or there's an unnatural amount of tree lovin' 'ere!
As fer why we use axes, IT'S TO CUT DOWN YER' GODDAMNED PANSY TREES YA' TREE HUGGER! Just cause it pisses yee off~
>>46770869
ocean steampunk? As in steamboats andcthulhu?
>>46768998
Chariot bathtub? With tactical bubblebath camo?!
>>46769763
Thats the thing though. It really is all riding on luck. Calm down, maybe change the enemy type to a super spy they can't just hack and crack. It isn't fair to hate them for being lucky and doing things their way. Sometimes inquiditors just extermanautus the world so at least they aren't doing that yet. Eventually they will slip up and somebody will die or the psycher will roll some 9s and blow his own face off.
>>46767350
I see you've read the campaign notes, good job
>>46775308
>unironically roleplaying
>unironically roleplaying as worst stereotype
>DUDE AXE LMAO
see, this is EXACTLY why you dwarffags are cancer.
>>46775696
>getting baited by pasta
You are pathetic.
>>46767350
>>46768418
>>46769938
>>46774573
>>46774696
Would you play with this party, /tg/?
>>46771432
Swap the mermaid tail with a snake tail, snakes do both.
What the fuck is wrong with everyone. Dwarfs are quiet and stoic. They are contemplative and prone to depression. They are a quiet race by requirements due to living underground. Things echo terribly and a very loud noise could collapse a mine. Stop being a short viking raider and be a dwarf instead.
>>46775768
Nagas and yuan ti a degenerate though
>>46775958
Look at the rest of the party, everyone a degenerate.
>>46775920
But my macho gimli clone
>>46775753
yes
>>46775920
Okay then give me a viking clone who can also be a comic relief.
>>46776165
Regular vikings are memes, you can comic relief it up either way.
![dungeons_and_dragons_06_stor[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ihFimjX.jpg "dungeons_and_dragons_06_stor[1].jpg")
>>46776165
>>46775753
Is this not a normal party for you?
>>46775753
>not all-fuckboy party
fuckin dropped
>>46776442
>all-fuckboy party
There needs to be at least one bara to keep them in line.
>>46775994
No. Macho gimli is meh anyway. Make a macho elf. He is ripped as hell, not super bright and can't shoot bows for shit. He beats his foes to a pulp with a giant club made out of his favorite tree to play in as a child. It died in a harsh winter so now it serves as his crushing tool. Add spikes or metal bits later for damage boost/flavor.
>>46769910
Wonder what that games about.
>>46776442
>all-fuckboy party
>first antagonist is musclegirl or milfcubus
>will constantly try to separate individual heroes from the party and convince them to switch sides
>once defeatedwill have change of heart and start supporting the party
>her methods of support are suspiciously similar to what she did before
>>46777510
>fuckboys
>anything but places to stick cocks into
The two antags are going to end up with each other, and milfcubus' kids will hate musclegirl until they get their bondign out of the way.
>>46777510
>her methods of support are suspiciously similar to what she did before
This made me laugh for some reason. Totally stealing this for a comic relief antagonist/npc
>>46767626
I've been roleplaying for 3 years and have had 15 dwarves if I remember off the top of my head who fits the "Tank with an axe" descript.
>>46767441
At least it isn't another goddamn gruff, Scottish elf with a chip on his shoulder about dwarves
>>46775753
>Players have suddenly fucking moved away from their comfort zone, deciding to play something like this.
If this was my party, I would fucking eat it and like it.
>>46777620
>yuri
No thanks
>>46775718
It's fresh pasta, though
>>46776193
>Regular vikings are memes
Just like dwarves
>>46778124
Which meme is better?
>>46767350
>also he's a bardSHOO BE DOO
>>46774799
Specifically, that's Francis, Boogie's stereotypical "raging super-nerd" character that he does in some videos.
I ignored most of the guy's stuff after seeing a few things like this because I didn't realize it was staged at first. Turns out he's actually a really cool guy, I just skip any of his "Francis" stuff.
>>46778440
Half fae catboy
Cool. I'm interested to see how you're gonna manage your limited movement options. Oh, and how are you gonna keep yourself hydrated?
I'm legitimately curious and looking forward to it.
>>46779644
barrel full of water in the party wagon, it can be dumped and refilled with magic for hygiene reasons. If the wagon is too big to go the places, the barrel can get strapped to the biggest motherfucker in the party.
>>46779445
Colette is bad meme
>>46772240
Nigga I remember that.
And the mermaid get used as rape bait all the time.
>>46779760
Well, we start at level 1 but a party wagon and a magically refilling barrel sure is a nice thing to work towards.
I also hope you can find a big guy in the party nice enough to carry you around. It'll make for cute character interactions and bonding moments.
>>46780020
Not even OP.
Also isn't create water a low level spell in a bunch of settings?
>>46767350
Good. Now scrap that shit and make one that fits the setting.
>>46767350
I knew someone who had a guy play as a dolphin. The party had to lug a giant fish take around for him since it wasn't an under water game. They later found out the rules stated that type of dolphin could morph into human form...
>>46780054
So I see you'll either be playing a Cleric or a Druid. Neat.
>>46780165
again, not the OP, so I ain't playing dick.
Also other party members could be said classes to take up that role if need be.
>>46776374
Every party I've ever played in.
>>46769437
>>46769558
Whiskey is the life of man!
WHISKEY! JOHNNY!
Whiskey is the life of man!
WHISKEY FOR MY JOHNNY-OH!!!
>>46780187
So now you've got your fellow players literally carrying you and most likely another one keeping a spell slot occupied just for you! Sure is a sweet and helpfull party.
>>46769823
>>46769847
>>46769849
Fuckin' fine, but there's a condition. You have to take advantage of the fact that your character can swim fast and doesn't need to breathe air to get in a sneak attack with a harpoon gun during a Yacht Party or similarly located event at least once.
>>46773225
Tie your legs together and try to walk man.
>>46780020
>I also hope you can find a big guy in the party nice enough to carry you around.
Can he big only relative to the merboy?
>>46780128
"Guys, just... guys, throw an enemy into the tank! I wanna hit something! Guys, come on!"
>>46780764
A merboy and a barrel full of water according to the guy I was responding to. But I guess if its just the merboy, you just need someone kinda big and with enough carrying capacity left.
>>46780165
Or spend 500 to 1,000 gold on an item that can cast it at will. Or, even better, talk to your GM about spending a bit more on a collar that keeps you perpetually moist... with create water as the prerequisite spell, it should still be pretty cheap.
>>46780899
unf
>>46780947
Y'know, that's not how I meant it, but now that I think about it... there has to be some subconscious reason why I defaulted to "collar" instead of "amulet", or "ring", or something.
>>46781042
where'd they banish the smut thread to, I finally have need for it
>>46780899
What item would that be? Wont you need a decent UMD? Pretty cool, thats an interesting thing to invest in.
And even though create water might be a cheap spell to cast, permanency sure is isnt. Might be a while before you run into anyone who can too.
>>46781088
Let me go find my 3.5 books and tell you the answer to that.
>>46781088
There are rules for creating your own magic items. An at-will spell is spell level x caster level x 2,000 gold, and a 0 level spell counts as 1/2 for calculations, so you can either pay someone 1,000 gold to make it for you, or pay 500 gold if you make it yourself.
If you want the "constant moisture" item instead of just an at-will usage of a cantrip, those rules aren't really as concrete, you just kind of have to eyeball it. Use create water as a starting point (you don't actually need permanency, it's just used as prerequisite because it's the most thematically appropriate spell), and I'd say 2,000 gold is a good price for an item that takes up a slot, doesn't give you any overt benefits, and is just around so you can travel with your party without dying.
Plus, it opens up some interesting story ideas, like your item being stolen and you having to track it down before you dry out... dashing from water trough to flooded gutter just to keep your moisture up.
>>46781088
>>46781288
Oh, and a "use activated" magic item doesn't require UMD, you just use it and it works. UMD is only needed for a spell completion or spell trigger item, like a scroll or a wand.
Unless it was an item that only worked for mermaids, and your non-merfolk character wanted to use it, or something... then a UMD check is needed to "Trick" the item into thinking you're a merfolk.
>>46781288
>>46781322
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/feats.htm#craftWondrousItem
Cool. That's an interesting feat to take when you hit that level 3. It'll give the party acces to a bunch of interesting options. I'm probably still gonna need to see that Permanency though, I'm not the kind of DM to wave making sense just because the benefit might not be that significant. But seeing how you're all commited with taking Feats and all, I might throw a scroll your way.
And show me this "use activated" item that lets you cast Create Water. It sounds cool.
>>46781537
>I'm probably still gonna need to see that Permanency though, I'm not the kind of DM to wave making sense just because the benefit might not be that significant.
What do you mean? You don't need permanency to make a magic item, it's a magic item, it's permanent because you're paying gold (and exp, in some editions). And pricing on magic items is supposed to take into account how useful they are anyway.
> And show me this "use activated" item that lets you cast Create Water.
The entire point of my comments was that you can make your own magic items, you don't have to only settle for the ones listed in the book. There is no create water item in the official items (that I know of), which is why you have to use the guidelines for creating your own items. It does require GM permission and input, but the guidelines are all there.
>>46775753
Of course
>>46776460
>bara
Hell no
MuscleMILF
>>46777510
This guy gets it
>>46781752
Keeping someone permanently moist isnt what Create Water does though. You're just gonna have an item gushing water forever?
I'm not letting you make an item that lets you just invinitely cast a spell effect at will either. Otherwise, what would be the point of wands?
>unironically wanting a qt merboy in your party
>>46767350
CUTE!
A CUTE!
>>46781915
>Of course
Well congratulations! You got yourself a magical realm party.
Now what's the next step of your master plan?
>>46782166
A nearby mine has gone silent, go investigateIt's giant spiders
>>46782212
>shota monsterboys working for MILFqueen going oncompletely normal and nonsexual adventuresand then they fuck when they get home
>>46783485
>bait and switch followed by actually giving out the bait
Lame as all fuck.
>>46783485
Pretty much
>>46783546
look, I need to sate my erection somehow
plus, it's like, a double bait and switch, maybe they just fuck outta nowhere in the middle of the season after the bait-n-switch is established and the only ones watching think it's cute adventuring
>>46781072
It's loss was one of the great tragedies of our time.
>>46782045
>a commisar usint 'qt'
>>46783614
It was the closest English approximation of Low Gothic jargon.
>>46783602
I know it's out there somewhere. And now I need it.
![tumblr_nl4k5suq6R1qg0qulo1_500[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/PCRgRjG.jpg "tumblr_nl4k5suq6R1qg0qulo1_500[1].jpg")
What's the general consensus here on tolerance of GM and/or player magical realming? Just tell them to show self-control and not be too self-indulgent? Or kill it with fire?
>>46783914
Magical realm is forcing your unwanted fetishes into the game. It doesn't automatically mean the presence of fetishes in the game. With this in mind magical realm is never something that should be tolerated, it should be rebuked. As for the level of rebuke it depends on how hard and transparently they opened the gates to their realm. If they throw that shit shamelessly then it needs to be killed with fire.
>>46783996
It seems that a lot of people freak out and cry 'magical realm' whenever something seemingly fetishy shows up, resulting in players and GMs shying away from such things in order to avoid such accusations. Monsterpeople and beastfolk especially. Is that actually the case?
>>46784123
No, mostly just /tg/ autists, those sort of people never last more than a session in a real game
>>46784123
Expanding on >>46784210, fetishy or potential fetishy aspects in games are only magical realm when they're unwanted, if no one cares it's not an issue
>>46770869
Oceangrunge is better.
>>46784123
It's overexaggerated, like all things on 4chan, I really think a lot of anons are doing something to get themselves into these awful games.
In the case of beastfolk it's mainly just paranoid lashing out at furries since furries were the enemy of this site before sjws came into the limelight. It's a lot of hot air and autism.
Also, sometimes it's because it's THEIR magical realm and they don't like being hot, bothered, distracted, and uncomfortable. So they try to get it out of the game or don't take it well.
>>46781940
> Keeping someone permanently moist isnt what Create Water does though.
Yes, but every magic item needs a prerequisite spell. The item doesn't necessarily have to do exactly what the spell does, it just has to be thematically appropriate. That's why you can use flame blade, flame strike, or fireball as the prerequisite to create a flaming weapon, despite the fact that a flaming weapon doesn't duplicate the effects of any of those spells. You just pick a spell that is closest, thematically, to what you want the item to do... and create water is closest, thematically, to an item that keeps its wearer slightly moist at all times.
> I'm not letting you make an item that lets you just invinitely cast a spell effect at will either.
It's your game, so you can run it how you like (though it worries me that you're running a game while knowing so little about how the game works). This is also why I prefer the "wearable item that keeps you moist at all times" approach, as well, since it doesn't have the added utility that a simple at-will create water would.
What should someone do if they're falsely accused of magical realming? State their case or just back down?
>>46784774
Like all touchy subjects there's no one right answer. It depends on the person.
>>46784660
But thats how a specific item is created by set rules in the game. When you're given general guidelines for creating magic items, you cant just go by whatever is thematically appropriate because that invites a crazy amount of abuse.
>>46784774
Say "fuck it" and show them what it really looks like when you magical realm. Just go all out...lay a tauric dragon hermaphrodite with three dicks and twelve breasts, take any feats you can to get a slave harem, and make sure to throw in a bunch of mind-control and transmutation magic so you can bend the minds and bodies of everyone you meet to your will.
Maybe next time they'll remember that playing a cute elf mage girl really isn't so bad, all things considered.
>>46784879
No, because the GM is supposed to be involved in the creation of the item, so if it's abusive, you can just say "No, that's too much." You can't just let your players create whatever the fuck they want with no input, that's just irresponsible GM'ing.
>>46784774
Embrace it.
>>46784973
Thats too meta and emmersion breaking. The rules of the game are the rules of the world which define what the PCs get to do.
I'm not getting in a discussion with players about whatever they consider "thematically appropriate" whenever they think of something broken they want to do or in this case, think of an easy way to make a limitating racial trait not matter.
>>46785290
>The rules of the game are the rules of the world which define what the PCs get to do.
And the rules of the game are that a spell used as a prerequisite doesn't have to perfectly match what the item does.
Look, if you're not comfortable with players making their own magic items, that's fine. New GM's rarely are. But the rules work just fine the way they are,
> I'm not getting in a discussion with players about whatever they consider "thematically appropriate" whenever they... think of an easy way to make a limitating racial trait not matter.
Except that there is no merfolk racial trait saying that they have to be wet all the time. This isn't trying to get past a limiting racial trait, it's just flavor for the character. By RAW, merfolk are not in any way penalized by being dry... they're slow on land, but this item wouldn't change that. Literally all it does is add some flavor to the character.
>>46784228
I'd like to hear more stories like >>46769182 of potentially fetishy concepts being used in non-magical-realm ways. I bet there's enough stories out their for their own thread even.
>>46775753
First four: yes.
Furry gets booted for fetish noncompliance.
>>46772240
Huh, looks pretty cool.
>>46780165
Why is everyone retarded? If druid, do whatever nesr shore for xp. Level up. Wildshape into new body. Yay you made it out of the water!
>>46783790
It is in another realm now. Lightyears away, serving tabletop playing aliens their smut.
>>46784252
>oceangrunge
>a bunch of hipster merfolk in Puget Sound
>they make "coffee" by spilling bags of discarded Starbucks grounds on to the seafloor and breathing deeply
>fashion changes towards the end of the 90s give them a steady supply of discarded plaid shirts
>Kurt Kobain lich BBG
>>46769437
I DREAMED A DREAM, THE OTHER NIGHT
LOWLANDS, LOWLANDS AWAY ME JOHN
MY LOVE SHE CAME, DRESSED ALL IN WHITE,
LOWLANDS AWAY
>>46767350
God damn it (insert player here)! You didn't listen at all to the description of the tritons in this setting.
>>46788106
Always the worst shanty.
>>46767773
As someone who is currently enemies with both the drow /and/ and obnoxious, snobbish elves, I really wish the dwarves in my setting hated the elves more.
>>46767626
In a row?
>>46788225
"You've played with 27 dwarves?"
"Stop it--"
"27 GODDAMN DWARVES, DOES THAT EVEN INCLUDE ME?"
"Um... 28."
"I'M 28TH?!"
>later
"She played with 27 dwarves, can you imagine that?"
"In a row?"
Here's mine.
Not pictured: a hat to not get lynched on sight.
>>46780719
>Tie your legs together
Go to sleep SKR
Not who you were responding to but seriously?
A merfolk would have a lifetime of experience in using their tail then a human who just had their legs tied together, and would far more then likely have a much greater degree of movement in it as well.
Further, Agility is more then just movement speed and we never see any reason to believe, in any media, that Mers would have reflexes adversely affected on land; only their base movment rate.
>>46788409
>Here's your potion you little knife ears!
>Excuse me?
>It's cool, I'm bringing it back!
>>46768998
I like how instead of just saying no, you ask them to defend their choice.
You sound like a good DM.
>>46788652
The cat! In the hat!
>>46788652
Good taste there, anon. Also, we're playing Anima, so you better keep that hat close, because the Inquisition is always around the corner.
>>46788780
Perhaps it's just a hat on the cat?
>>46778851
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4TedkQP_hM
>>46773622
They complain when the sessions don't involve something dying horribly. Anything involving subtlety just makes them grumble until there's something new to shoot...
>>46775676
That's another thing; the psyker is damn near unstoppable, as he's taken every possible feat that lets him just ignore psychic phenomena. He SAYS he's a ticking time bomb, but in practice, he delights in breaking the game by making his character invincible!
>>46787607
We have had threads about "how to defuse magical realm" or "how to nonchalantly use magical realm subjects" and so on.
They kinda veer into just discussing the realms themselves rather than their conditional uses.
>>46784774
State your case, pepper with "wtf man". But really depends on circumstance,
>>46787607
It happens a fair bit, but it devolves into:
a) Cleave-and-smite shitters calling everyone disgusting neckbeards who can't keep it in their pants;
b) Cleave-and-smite shitters false-flagging as magical-realm fags and posting farcically obvious fetish rants;
c) The occasional panting spoilered-out femdom fantasy dialogue between the femdom types, who are for some reason the only ones who reliably get shrill about it.
>>46783790
Its over on /d/.
>>>/d/6785286
>>46780020
>>>46779760
>I also hope you can find a big guy in the party nice enough to carry you around. It'll make for cute character interactions and bonding moments.
Merboy Prince who needs speedy overland transportation to an inland sea for diplomatic mission and needs escort from your party, one of which is a Huge Knight who has no love for merfolk but slowly comes to be friends with the young Merprince in the barrel in his back.
Sounds fun
>>46767350
dont inert your Goru-fetish in my game anon!
I don't want you to be eaten by the PCs
>>46783602
It really isn't. The board's better with it gone
>>46788167
I disagree, but that's because the first time it came on for me I was skulking through a misty canal with some crazy reverb going on while sneaking up on a convoy.
>>46791636
It's gotten quieter
I don't like it
>>46791636
What exactly is it that's gotten better? How exactly did it affect you that a containment thread that you obviously never lurked or posted in is gone now?
>>46795224
>It's gotten quieter
Less shitposting is a good thing
>I don't like it
Then go to /d/. Or /b/. Or /trash/. Those boards might be more your speed.
>>46795932
At the very least it means NiceDaemonette spend less time on this board. That alone is worth its exile
>>46796038
>At the very least it means NiceDaemonette spend less time on this board. That alone is worth its exile
They hated him more than anyone else here
Fucker kept coming in and shitting up our threads
>>46796038
The only thing it accomplished was to drive that utter ass-clown out of the containment threads and all over the rest of the board. Rest assured, everyone on this board except for ND loathes that waste of skin, and considering that he seems to have the IQ to breathe and type at the same time, he must also be intelligent enough to have self-awareness and thus hate himself.
I lose my temper on the Internet often, but ND is one of the few shitters who's persistent and malicious enough to earnestly make me want to brain him with a wrench if I got the chance.
>>46796126
According to some posters, he even annoys the shit out of /toy/.
>>46796126
>The only thing it accomplished was to drive that utter ass-clown out of the containment threads and all over the rest of the board
Except he always did that. In fact he used to be worse about it to "cultivate lewdness" for the /wst/. He's been posting less and less since its removal.
>>46797766
Mr. Capslock Meme, Neckbeard whatever, Sergalfag, Curzefag, fluffbringer, that guy who used to roleplay as his gryphon fursona in every single thread
Just off the top of my head
Did a janitor/mod really need to delete a few OT posts about old trips while leaving some other shit on the catalog?
>>46801035
Yes
>>46803344
They've got their priorities straight.
>>46803453
They do it for free, after all
>>46767350
Gay, kill yourself.
Is playing as a nymph more okay than a mermaid?
>>46806755
Isn't that art for GW2's salads?
Man what happened to that game? I've not played in ages and I never got anywhere because I couldn't get into the game at all.
