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Cyber music edition
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>>46693932
Presumably he would cast the puppet spells back in the safehouse and just go like a standard street samurai from there on. If the connection gets broken, then shit would hit the fan.
>>46693795
I haven't yet found the actual rules, but I did find this:
>http://shadowrun.wikia.com/wiki/Simsense
>Syndicates can control "chipheads" with "mind control chips" which they use to turn them into their hired muscle. These types of chips are controlled via the Matrix using Deckers an example is when the Yakuza Gang captured Gino and made him one of their Clockers. "Mind Contol Chips" like most illegal Simsense can be deactivated if the operator is away from the terminal or is incapacitated which will stun them.
>>46694073
There's more stuff on Simsense-related things in the Shadowbeat book, as I recall it.
>>46694013
CYBERMUSIC EDITION!
In some german book "Turbo Lover" by Judas Priest is described as the only true rigger anthem.
Hit me with what you think are the anthems for the archetypes!
>>46694099
That book is from the 90's so it'll hardly fix the rules question.
>>46694130
Cybermusic? Cybermusic!
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD-4g5w1h8xQpLaNS_ghU4g
>>46694130
I heard someone say cybermusic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xE72cKW5_4
>>46694073
Ctrl+F CRB Personafix chips
>>46694297
In what book? Also, wouldn't personafix chips only give the "user" a new personality rather than possible remote control?
So a thought on the Ares Supersquirt II (Electric Boogaloo). This thing utilizes a two cartridge system for the purpose of mixing two seperate chemicals together (for the purpose of DMSO-blends, naturally), rather than having a singular cartridge of the mixed component. Beyond the obvious and aforementioned utility, I've been wondering what other compound mixtures might be interesting to pull off. I'm going off the assumption here that the two chemical compounds are not mixed once slotted in, but once the trigger is pulled and they are both propelled through the same nozzle/business-end of the squirtgun.
Technically, this could be utilized by combining two chemicals that would produce a powerful acid when mixed together, but that runs the major risk of melting your squirtgun after the one shot, so I'm trying to think of other viable compound combinations, whether based on realism, or even some kind of outlandish or simply 'future-tech'y' ideas, like two compounds mixed together create something like Spidey's web solution, allowing you to squirtgun globs of sticky, industrial-strength gloop at people.
>>46694013
I assume there's lots of k-pop and j-pop style stuff floating around out there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxt7TexggGE
What did my former Johnson char do to piss off his employer enough to get fired, but not bad enough to just kill me?
>>46694405
It's fucking long, but check this out. You can have it play in the background while you do something productive: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnPM7I49fj8
>>46694474
Nothing, just budget cuts :)
>>46694468
Funny you should post Miku, when I posted an idea relating to a Vocaloid ESP gaining sentience a few weeks back in a previous general.
>>46694474
Anything from spilling his coffee or just screwing up a business negotiation.
>>46694474
Was taking part in intra-corporate sabotage between rival managers, which was discovered by the higher-ups before it got serious. He got taken away from Johnsoning and sent to a boring desk job.
If Jap, then they expected him to kill himself.
If not-Jap, he was supposed to rot away pushing paper, but still under their thumb.
>>46694496
I've already seen that. Everything he is talking about involves using DMSO.
>>46694540
>Foot fetish in the sixth world
>>46694326
CRB Aka core rule book. You could make one that will make person accept any/all commands from a particular comm number or with a particular code word. And just order it around via matrix.
If you mean literal remote control with a joystick, first why would you ever, second you'd have to take a complitely different approach:
1. Implant Move by Wire (Accept no substitutes)
2. Implant Commlink, or better yet RCC
3. Hard-wire them together
4. Use remote control/Jump in to control.
>>46694073
Yeah, but control thoughts and control actions don't last for more than a few rounds at best, since every single round the target gets to resist and reduce your net hits until none are left.
>>46694608
>If you mean literal remote control with a joystick, first why would you ever, second you'd have to take a complitely different approach:
>why would you ever
Direct control is just better than ordering around since it's faster and more precise.
Sure it's more complex, but now you can have your puppet do complex actions (as in not the game term).
>>46694652
Which is why you get yourself a braindead or at least mentally disabled meathead to control.
Too much cyber music, not enough punk music in here. Have some Hives.
The anti-wageslave anthem:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUdevXDzrcc
The greed anthem:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZs67ks1Hgw
>>46694652
Shadowrun doesn't give the rules for 'turning people into meat puppets' because even CGL knows it's a bad idea to give players hard facts about how to do that.
There's plenty of anthrodrones out there, I don't know why anon is so determined to have an actual person he controls forever unless minmaxing is the end goal (if I read last thread right, he wants to be a paralyzed dwarf with a troll puppet, i.e. get the dwarf brains and troll muscle).
>>46694724
How much actual punk do you reckon they still listen to? Would anyone in 2077 still recognize the Hives, or GBH, even the Ramones?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STKYogihTio
>>46694704
It really is not - It's VERY easy to block all matrix communications. A personafix under orders would continue following them. A MBW system will at best go to autosoft, and trusting dog brains to control a human body isn't a good idea. Also trying to have a conversation via such a set up.. suffice it to say it won't get any less complex.
You'll cowards don't even know cyberpunk music. 80s metal is the only way to go, really.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0SMz0NTF58
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bjyw1Swr9A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1B_pZC8aWU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xwan8GkQHPQ
>>46694704
If they're braindead you can't use control thoughts, and even then I would be very iffy about letting you use control actions on a being with 0 LOG or WIS.
>>46694791
>>46694804
>>46694851
It's more of a thought experiment. Playing such a character wouldn't be all that fun but having one as an NPC could be interesting.
Now I know that the best way to handle it is to just say that "this is how it is, stop asking for rules" but it just feels kinda bad to do that.
Ya know, somehow I think that there's a bit of a deliberate skew towards the more 'punk' and 'grunge' aspect of music amongst peoples' perception of the Sixth World. Shadowbeat pretty clearly defines that all forms of music exist, not just that one particular brand of synthetic dystopia.
Electroswing, for one, is something I could see playing in some of the more upper-end clubs out there:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twqM56f_cVo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HjyHB6ok6g
>>46694833
Actually Hitler appreciated Opera.
>>46694914
I mean, there aren't rules for a lot of stuff.
For example, cyberzombies don't have rules in 5e but I've thrown one at my players. Would I ever let a player play as one? Fuck no, so why would they need rules for playing one?
>>46694851
I wouldn't let it be a thing because control actions is Mental, I.E. requires a functioning brain. But you all are forgeting this fun mental manipulation rule:
"Logic + Willpower Test with a dice pool penalty equal to the spell’s Force"
AKA If you are under control, you are under control until mage stops sustaining his spell.
Not houseruling this rule the fuck off is insult to sanity, but it is on the books.
>>46694833
You seem unaware that cyberpunk is dead and we're in post/neo-cyberpunk now.
>>46694966
Shut up, I can still try to make the 80s live, damn it.
>>46694947
Well, only if the force exceeds your logic+willpower, which for most people would be a Force 6 spell.
But yeah, in the case of control thoughts or control actions, that'd be fucking retarded.
>>46694966
I still don't understand the thematic differences between cyberpunk, post-cyberpunk, and neo-cyberpunk, all of which I've been told are different subgenres.
>>46694993
The 2050's were the best times, man. The best times.
>>46694791
There's no way punk is entirely dead. It's probably been adapted into other subgenres featuring more electronic, but the sentiments and general sound are surely still around. And I guarantee there's still purists. There will always be purists.
>>46694919
I agree. I think the Sixth World will be much like today: where mainstream trends are hard and fast, but you can find people making literally everything.
Also, Electro-Swing is a great genre.
More music for people's listening pleasure:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDTCPYmWxbk
I find that trip-hop provides some good ambience for Shadowrun.
On the topic of control thoughts, how far do you let it go, /srg/?
Obviously with control actions, you could have a security guard blow his own brains out but what about control thoughts? Could you just make them think "Oh I should kill myself" or does the thought need to be "reasonable" to a degree (IE, it has to be justified to an extent)?
I like pseudoclassical with twists and some modern enhancements.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJjZM5zFGuA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1fTbDJiyrM
Golden earring's radar love is great for riggers. As is everythign from the Auto Assault and Full Auto video game sountracks.
As far as the more electronica side of the coin, enjoy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5joTyy3CCo http://megadrive.bandcamp.com/album/hardwired
In the metal-electronic venn crossover diagram, give Iron Savior's metropolic album a listen. Shit like Cybernetic Queen and Running Riot.
Shadowrun really has a large umbrella as far as themes and styles.
>>46695013
Cyberpunk is violent, constantly in flux world, with no rules but the rule of the strong(smart/ruthless/dilligent.. Point being no morals on governmental level).
Post/Neo-CP is a world where corps won over anarchists. Your shadowrunners exist to serve corps, not to challenge them. They are simply a tool of the corporate world. An unreliable yet very important tool.
>>46695026
Control Thoughts is still perfect control. The only difference between Control Thoughts and Control Actions is who's skill ranks get used when they're doing something.
Control Actions removes their brain from the equation - your brain gets complete control of their body.
Control Thoughts gives your brain complete control of their brain, which has control of their body.
>>46695013
Well, I can give you examples for two of those, act least:
Cyberpunk: The original Robocop, and Total Recall, the Alien movies, the Fifth Element.
Neo-Cyberpunk: The Robocop remake, that one movie called Lucy with ScarJo, that one other film, I think it was called 'Ex Machina'. Those ones are pretty much Neo-Cyberpunk.
>>46695013
>Cyberpunk Classic
Disenfranchised on the outskirts of a dystopian society governed by massive change in physical and informational technology, with uncertain outcomes
>Post-Cyberpunk
A society governed by massive change in physical and informational technology, with uncertain outcomes. Not necessarily dystopian, not necessarily outcasts
I've yet to hear a good definition for neo-cyberpunk that isn't the same as post-cyberpunk
>>46695024
>where mainstream trends are hard and fast, but you can find people making literally everything.
That's literally what Shadowbeat describes the music scene as. Right down to certain corps using synthesized voices and a trend algorithm to just straight up manufacture a pop hit. The 'real' music is basically entirely self-published, with everyone hoping to get picked up by a label because the labels are the ones with the money to let you do a live gig - which is where the real publicity is at.
>>46695117
How is Ex Machina cyberpunk of any variety? Transhumanist science fiction, sure, but not cyberpunk.
>>46695173
Specifically it's Neo-Cyberpunk. Largely uniform, clean and smooth like the backside of an Apple tablet. None of that nasty, grungy dark stuff that might make people uncomfortable.
I think the last recent cyberpunk film that I saw was Elysium.
>>46695214
>>46695214
Cyberpunk at it's core is about anarchists living in between cracks of high tech world that they, them selves don't belong. What you are describing is simply science fiction.
>>46695214
But that's not cyberpunk, or neo-cyberpunk. Old cyberpunk was largely defined by the neon and chrome aesthetic (if if not defined, included that aesthetic as a matter of course), but damn near every movie set in the future these days looks like Ex Machina. Fucking Big Hero 6 looks like Ex Machina.
>>46695272
>>46695276
I guess I'm conflating the two because to me Cyberpunk will always look like the 80's image of the future from Blade Runner, Robocop, Total Recall, or The Fifth Element, and so on and so forth..
So when the 'updated' Cyberpunk looks nothing like that, rather looking like Ex Machina and yes, even Big Hero 6, even if it perhaps retains its Cyberpunk narrative themes, the visual 'cleanliness' takes me out of the experience.
>>46694474
He was caught lining his own pockets. Corp Johnsons have an expense account to draw from for hiring runner teams, with payment adjudicated by the parent firm. The reason so many Johnsons stiff the teams they hire is because if they pay less than what's adjudicated, the parent firm doesn't ask questions and the Johnson pockets the rest. This kind of behavior is looked down upon and grounds for termination of contract if it's enough money. Absolutely every Johnson does it, absolutely every corp knows that every Johnson does it, and they all really hope no one gets caught because once someone gets caught, they have to deal with it. A good Johnson is hard to replace, and just killing them is a waste of their talents. So, firing them, putting them on retainer and paying them under the table to do more or less the same thing they did before but cheaper just makes more sense.
Hey guys, I just found this posted in my chatroom.
http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/180676/Shadowrun-Seattle-Sprawl-Digital-Box-Set
>>46696113
Is all of that stuff new?
>>46695272
I'd argue the Syndicate video game (the original) has nothing to do with the punks and everything with the corps and is still very much classic cyberpunk, if only by virtue of being too old to be post
>>46696728
As far as I know, yes.
>>46696113
Can't wait for someone who's not me to buy it and tell us if it's any good.
More of that good ol' Electroswing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0u90QZLjl8
>>46696774
I just bought it and have been going through it. It's not worth the money. Another poorly organized pdf with reused assets. They split it into 3 different books for some reason though.
>>46697157
Upload it, chummer.
>>46697497
you don't want to do that omae, they have serial numbers in the thrive thru files and they'll backtrace you
Sup tg
Just confirming from the fat guys here. I'm using a Kitsune as a mcguffin for an upcoming run and I want to ensure it's not an established metatype or that it currently has no real stat blocks.
I've checked the Critters book and not seen it, haven't found wiki entries on it, and it's not in SR5 or Run Faster as a metasapient. Minus the possibility of the new upcoming Critter book, can you let me know if there's any info I'm missing on Kitsune in SR? Am I free to houserule it without worrying about damaging the lore? (Trying to remain as faithful to setting as possible)
Hey does anyone know good software for creating floorplans? I've been using this: http://openofficespace.icovia.com/icovia.aspx
Is there a better way to make them?
>>46695034
>King of Strong Style's theme
Fuck yeah.
Speaking of which, ya think Wrasslin is still a thing in the Sixth World? Or have gladitorial games finally put old Vince in the dirt?
>>46697731
I'm pretty sure that Vulpine Shapeshifters are the Kitsune equivalent in Shadowrun.
Would any of you deckers out there begrudge me if this is how I made hacking work?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wXBe2jTdx4
Why is handloaded ammunition MORE expensive than their store-bought counterparts? It makes no sense that a full cartridge that has taken time to manufacture is cheaper than a set of parts.
>>46694517
I would run with an AI who thinks she's Hatsune Miku. Or even actually is.
>>46698108
I don't know game-mechanics wise, but real-life wise it's the same problem as all hobbyists face in niche hobbies.
They do not have the bulk deals required to make manufacturing these things cheaper or even profitable. They have to individually purchase things from specialized distributers.
>>46697914
But that is how hacking works?
>>46698136
With guns being as popular as they are it would make sense that people sell bullets, casings, primers and powder.
Only the initial cost of a handloading press hurts, but after that it's smooth sailing.
>>46698142
I think the differences in my version mostly involve things like not going comatose while hacking.
Instead, FURIOUS KEYBOARD NOISES
>>46698128
So...
When I was looking into AI last thread, I realized you can use Exceptional Entity to start the game with a 13 CHA AI.
Would you run with an AI face?
>>46698108
Economies of scale, omae.
>>46698169
If you play an AR decker, then FURIOUS KEYBOARD NOISES is exactly how it works. Adept decker builds do it all the time.
>>46697812
Kitsune are 9 tailed magic foxes that CAN Shapeshifter yes, but seem to be distinct from ordinary Vulpine Shapeshifters. At least how I view it.
Anyways nowhere in any lore I've found have they called Fox Shifters by the name Kitsune. There is a home brewed metasapient race for Sr online but... well... it's homebrew
>>46698193
>Would you run with an AI face?
If she was Hatsune Miku, sure.
>>46698195
Yeah, I looked into it myself. There was a Fox shapeshifter in the SNES game named Kitsune, so that's where I made that connection from.
To be fair, a Fox Shapeshifter mage is only missing the extra tails. Maybe your McGuffin is just a High-Magic Fox Shapeshifter with extra tails?
>>46697775
That's like asking if wrestling is useless because boxing is a thing. They have little in common.
>>46698222
A Kitsune is a separate Japanese awakened critter. By the logic shadowrun is running, they are a different subspecies and not the same thing.
>talk about AIs with exceptional attribute
But wouldn't that make you dog balls at everything else?
So I was fiddling around with Chummer5, and I noticed that there are cost modifiers for initiation.
Can you use them in character creation?
>>46698300
Yep. The only thing this AI build would do is talk. Literally no skill at at hacking or anything.
But thanks to Leadership, your AI would give bard-like inspiration in combat by yelling or singing into the teams comms.
>>46698336
You generally can't initiate at chargen at all.
>>46698344
See, if I was going to get super good at just one thing, it would probably be resonance with pilot origins.
Then I would be johnny, which fucking writes itself.
>>46698357
I may be blind but I don't see anything that would deny initiation at chargen as long as you use Karma.
>>46698366
>But thanks to Leadership, your AI would give bard-like inspiration in combat by singing into the teams comms.
Would run with /10
>>46698409
The rules say you can't initiate during chargen. Fullstop.
Unless you can initiate with the 7 karma carry over limit you get when you leave chargen you can't do it.
>>46698500
I was looking at the Initiation section of the rules.
I suppose it must be mentioned in the chargen section then.
Still in the region of hand holding a person who can't see shit, where's the numbers for unarmed damage?
>>46698639
Base Unarmed damage is (STR)S damage. Page 187 if you need to see it yourself.
Anyone got any good images or tokens for the workers at McHughs?
Preferably that vaguely fit the mob-dudes-in-cover descriptions.
>>46698689
Wiz
>>46698692
Just image search for Irish mobsters? It's not like they wear a headband that says "Irish Mob"
>>46698830
Probably add some badly edited in fast food uniforms to complete the look.
>Shadowrun: Seattle Sprawl Digital Box Set
Anybody bought it? How is map? How much info on Ork Underground?
So what is the Urban Explorer Helmet supposed to look like? Helmets are important for a runner, but god damn I want to look good.
>>46699000
Sorta like a biking helmet i guess
>>46698366
No matter what your theme song would be catchy af
https://youtu.be/hZQPd50haCc
>>46698941
The map is garbage. It's just Seattle with the roads highlighted and the Archology drawn onto it. No legend, no landmarks besides, nothing of value. It's like you took this and removed all the pinheads, and made it look "cool" "http://www.1w6.de/rpg/sr/map/?borders=on
>>46699036
And if you bling it out, it looks like something fit to be called "the helmet of Mambrino."
>>46698222
It would no doubt be possible for a SURGEd Vulpine Shifter Mage to fit the bill.
I just like the idea of Kitsune being a paracritter instead.
>>46698261
A metasapient metavarient?
>>46699083
Also removed the borders and the security ratings.
Is it possible to put sunglasses on the outside of a combat mask or helmet?
It's important that people know I am wearing sunglasses.
>>46699083
>>46698941
>>46696113
This is the "map"
Low res, because cheap foxit won't let me export images, the fucks. Do I have to crack everything?
>>46699256
I'd also like to point out I didn't cut out any land from that image. The barrens aren't in the "map"
>>46699109
sure chummer, you can do what you want
>>46698234
Fair enough. Now to write a struggling backyard wrestler trog turned shadowrunner.
>>46699109
sure chummer, you can do what you want
>>46699102
>A metasapient metavarient?
I don't know anything about kitsunes to answer that. Are they considered equals to humans in Japanese folklore? Then they'd be metahuman. Are they just intelligent animals? Then they're paracritters.
Look at it like this: Dragons aren't metahumans. They're technically paracritters.
>>46699256
i feel bad for you friend.
have a map pdf.
>>46699256
>>46699319
Well, that's sucks.
>foxit
I believe sumatra allow copy full size images from pdf.
>>46699373
Yhey're intelligent nine tailed magic fox spirits that would often Shapeshifter into human form to trick or help jerks in Japan and to suck off 15th century Furries.
It could go either way honestly.
>>46699487
>sumatra
Why are developers allowed to design webpages. Yellow is not a good color for anything.
>>46699256
>>46699487
I installed the UI abomination that is sumatra. Here y'all go. Full res "map"
I guess you can go to a printshop and put it on the wall over your table or something? ffs Catalyst.
Have to link external cus 38MB is too girthy for 4chan: http://imgur.com/O9RtD6x
Picture related is 20% of size
>>46699715
They are grognards stuck in web 1.0. It's still a decent, insanely fast reader (that still lacks some must have functions because of devs stubbornness)
>>46699824
Thank you based anon.
>>46699824
Ok that clearly didn't work either.
Here's the actual full rez version: http://www.xup.in/dl,66107942/Seattle_map.png/
>>46698639
>I was looking at the Initiation section of the rules.
>I suppose it must be mentioned in the chargen section then.
Short version, Initiation isn't on the list of things you can spend your karma on. That's why it's an optional rule that you can enable.
>>46699912
Ooo, shiny.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jvr-KU-vKvw
this one is a staple music when we do shadowrun
>>46699912
nod32 didn't like that link
>>46700223
nod32 needs to lay of the LSD
How do specializations affect skill maximums at chargen? Like, is 4 automatics with 2 specialization points in SMGs legal? Is 4 in automatics with 2 specialization points?
>>46696113
>All this will bring the sprawl to lifew while making it easier for players and gamemasters to dive into the shadowy depths that make Seattle legendary—and see if they can keep their head above water.
>lifew
A typo in the Drivethru description; that's the CGL we know and love.
So one of my co-players said he wanted to make a rigger and came up with this.
This character is so big of a mess I don't even know where to begin. Any help?
== Priorities ==
Metatype: D Attributes: B Special: E Skills: B Resources: B
== Attributes ==
BOD: 3 AGI: 4 REA: 6 STR: 2 CHA: 2 INT: 3 LOG: 4 WIL: 4 EDG: 5
== Derived Attributes ==
Essence 3,0
Initiative 9 + 1d6
Physical Damage Track 8
Stun Damage Track 10
== Limits ==
Physical 5 Mental 4 Social 4
== Active Skills ==
Computer 5
Cybercombat 4
Cybertechnology 2
Electronic Warfare 2
Exotic Ranged Weapon 2
Gymnastics 4
Hacking 4
Hardware 5
Longarms 4
Navigation 2
Perception 2
Pilot Aircraft 4
Pilot Ground Craft 4
Running 2
Sneaking 2
Software 5
== Knowledge Skills ==
Area Knowledge: Chicago 6
Business 2
English 2
Rig 2
Sniping 2
== Qualities ==
Analytical Mind, Catlike, Juryrigger, Low Pain Tolerance, Neoteny
== Lifestyles ==
Hideout 100 months
== Cyberware/Bioware ==
Control Rig Rating 2
Cybereyes Basic System Rating 2
+Image Link
+Smartlink
+Vision Magnification
Datajack
Grapple Gun
Thermographic Vision
== Armor ==
Chameleon Suit
== Weapons ==
Ares Desert Strike, Shock Gloves
== Commlink ==
Fairlight Caliban (ATT: 0, SLZ: 0, DP: 7, FWL: 7)
Microtrónica Azteca 200 (ATT: 5, SLZ: 4, DP: 3, FWL: 2)
== Gear ==
Ammo: APDS (Sniper Rifles) x140
Ammo: Taser Dart (Tasers) x28
Catalyst Stick
Fake License (Sniper Rifle License) Rating 4
Fake License (Driver's License) Rating 4
Fake License (Cyberware License) Rating 4
Mapsoft (Chicago)
Microphone, Directional Rating 6
Stealth Rope (100m) x5
== Vehicles ==
MCT Fly-Spy (Minidrone) x3
Suzuki Mirage (Racing Bike)
>>46700223
For reasons. This shit required you to disable adblock to download anything.
>>46700335
You can have Rating 6 + 1 Specialization at chargen for each skill.
>>46698366
You want to go Depth and Pilot Origins to make out the vroom vroom.
>>46700335
Specializations cost either 1 Skill point or 7 Karma at chargen then 7 karma after it. You can only have one specialization per skill at character creation and they give a flat +2 dice to the dice pool for that skill. Unless you are playing something earlier than 4th, but that's a different can of worms.
>>46698692
Here's my generic Paddy.
>>46700404
>>46700429
Yeah, sorry, playing 5th. Alright, so 6 + 1 specialization point? And I assume you need at least 1 point to put in a specialization point right?
>>46700486
Remember that on Skill Priorities ABC that the number after the forward slash is for skill groups not points for use in specialties.
>>46700359
This guy running a SURGE-baby or something? 'Cause that's the only way you can get Neoteny without being a Gnome.
>>46700359
>rigger
>no gunnery
>no RCC
>all these low-level decker skills
>commlink with 14 availability
>sniper with no weapon skills
>no van to hide your drones and freakin rifle
Are you sure he wanted to be a rigger? Because it looks like he wanted to be a decker, than he saw equipment section and decided to be an infiltrator/sniper.
>>46700359
So far I told him that he really needs to figure out the specific role of the character, because it seems like he wants to do a little bit of everything
I told him about initiative
I told him about his lack of a van and drones
I pointed out the problems with skills and lack of specs
I did point that the cliaban is availability 14
I did say that the sniper rifle license is useless because desert strike is forbidden
And that the knowledge skills are silly
And that he lacks a proper lifestyle
>>46700359
>Neoteny
Honestly it doesn't look that bad, he's just missing something worth jumping in to with his control rig, the Gunnery skill, and needs to put some skill points into Con and Etiquette. He could afford to move a point or two from reaction to logic, but that's not a huge deal.
He'll have to lose the Caliban though, not allowed to have DR7 stuff at chargen.
There's a few rookie mistakes, but I wouldn't call it unsalvageable by any means.
>>46700566
You can get negative metagenetic qualities for non-surge characters.
>>46700367
How unreasonable that they want ad money for use of their service.
>>46700359
The only thing is a full reboot
>>46700596
I can't seem to find that rule in RF, is it in some errata discussion somewhere?
>>46700599
Rghost doesn't bitch about adblock.
Mediafire doesn't bitch about adblock.
Dropbox doesn't bitch about adblock.
Do I need to continue? Also, swf ads. In current year.
>>46700682
p. 119
These qualities are the price for those cool advantages
of the Positive Metagenic Qualities. While these qual-
ities are intended to be the dark side of SURGE, they
can also be taken by characters looking for a little extra
flavor from their character’s background, such as mys-
terious mutations or the side effects of gene therapies.
Cavalier Deputy, or Ruger Super Warhawk?
>>46700735
I made a loli adept a while ago and I fluffed having that quality as a downside of her rather violent awakening. She has really high magic, so that backfired by stunting her growth when she was 11.
>>46700769
Warhawk easily.
The only reason (besides fluff) you may want to use revolver is better damage/ap. Deputy doesn't have it therefore it's shit.
>>46700812
Don't forget Ammo Skip. Go from gel to EX-EX with a thought!
>>46700807
You're a shit
>>46700894
Eh, you can reload smartgun pistol with free+simple action and spend another simple action on shooting.
With only 6 rounds it's not much you can do with mixed ammo. I wish they bring back extended cylinderand full-auto modfrom 4e.
>>46700968
It is a shame that you feel that way.
How high strength should a character have to make unarmed attacks a viable back up strategy in case the enemy is right at your face and/or you find yourself without a gun?
>>46701088
Depends on your agility. I could go with a strength of just 3 if I had enough net hits to take out a couple of mooks.
If your character isn't built around punching, chances are you wouldn't get very far regardless, so if you face more than a couple of bored fat securityniggers, just give up and look for a better chance.
>>46701088
Shock gloves do enough damage to cover that niche for most people. You need about 6/7 str + bond density or bone lacing to even think about using your bare hands instead of a shock glove.
>>46701088
Depends a bit on if they have any way of boosting AP.
If they do, then 7-8 puts you in worse than taser range. But honestly, if it's backup, just get a shock glove.
>>46701158
So I'll be good with STR 3 and AGI 7, unarmed 8, Killing Hands and couple of techniques from Jeet Kune Do?
>>46701234
I think so, if you build it around "oh shit I really need to escape and fast, so I'll just punch these couple of dudes and run like fuck"
I'd consider skipping the techniques, don't they cost a fair amount of karma that could be used for something else instead?
>>46701234
If you want JKD, also take the quality that lets you just take a maneuver and take Finishing Move. But you'd also want a boosted strength, especially because Killing Hands isn't doing you much.
>>46701283
Bending the Reed is great for dodging and Counterstrike packed in with Yielding Force (counterstrike) is a nice surprise.
Also I've built my adept around perception which means he has bunch of powers related to that. In this context the important power would be Blind Fighting that can be combined with martial arts technique Strike the Darkness.
>>46701307
KH is mainly for astral combat and small time mooks. It coupled with Spirit Claw is a mean combo.
>>46701396
I mean more that it's not going to do much for mooks unless you're getting really lucky.
You need six net hits for it to give your punches and kicks any benefit and that's against somebody in an armored vest. Depending on your stats, you might have a high enough limit for that, but you might not.
It's only three for armored clothing, but I'd count fighting most people in armored clothing as a win then and there, absent things like the guy in the clothes being an adept, a troll, or a troll adept.
So player got into a situation where he became a sex slave and was drugged,
How the hell should I determine stds? Are there any rules for stds?
Is she street samurai, covert ops or weapons specialist?
>>46702321
Neither, she's a street samurai
Does the small dragonfly from Stolen Souls inject the drugs it can apparently use via the bite attack that the microdrone dragonfly in rigger 5 has?
>>46702213
Not really sure on how to determine STDs. As far as rules are concerned you should just use the rules for diseases as normal.
>>46702321
She's a street samurai/decker hybrid.
>>46702424
Disease rules in core or other books?
>>46702496
Core or B&B, not sure which to be honest.
>>46702380
I think it is supposed to be the same goddamn drone, just reworked.
>>46702321
If I remember the original movies, she's a Street Samurai.
The GiTs series though? Definitely a covert ops/decker with some serious chrome. In GiTs she'd be a character who's been playing for so long they got 6(10)s in everything with all gammaware.
Who here has tried to play a Mind Flayer runner before? How did you do it? Was it cool or hard?
>>46700359
Okay, the guy took some advice, and decided to go for more of a full decker who dabbles in rigging. Any critique?
== Attributes ==
BOD: 3 AGI: 3 REA: 6 STR: 2 CHA: 2 INT: 3 LOG: 5 WIL: 4 EDG: 5
== Limits ==
5, 6, 5
== Active Skills ==
Animal Handling
Automatics 5 [Assault Rifles]
Blades
Computer 5
Cybercombat 5
Electronic Warfare 5
Gunnery 5
Hacking 6
Hardware 5
Pilot Aircraf 4
Pilot Ground Craft 4
Pilot Walker 2
Running 2
Software 5
== Knowledge Skills ==
Area Knowledge: Chicago 6
Business 2
English N
== Qualities ==
Analytical Mind
Low Pain Tolerance
Neoteny
== Lifestyles ==
Base (Med) 2 months
== Cyberware/Bioware ==
Control Rig Rating 1
Cybereyes Basic System Rating 2
+Image Link
+Smartlink
+Vision Magnification
+Thermographic Vision
== Armor ==
Armor Jacket
== Weapons ==
Ares Predator V
FN HAR
== Commlink ==
Microtrónica Azteca 200 (ATT: 5, SLZ: 4, DP: 3, FWL: 2)
+Edit
+Exploit
Transys Avalon (ATT: 0, SLZ: 0, DP: 6, FWL: 6)
== Gear ==
Ammo: Regular Ammo (Assault Rifles) x280
Ammo: Regular Ammo (Heavy Pistols) x90
Fake License (everything on char) Rating 4 x4
Fake SIN (Cornelia Shalom) Rating 4
Fake SIN (Anett Green) Rating 2
Mapsoft (Chicago)
== Vehicles ==
Ares Roadmaster (Armored Transport)
Horizon Flying Eye (Minidrone)
Horizon Flying Eye (Minidrone) x2
MCT Fly-Spy (Minidrone)x2
MCT-Nissan Roto-drone (Medium) x2
Shiawase Kanmushi (Microdrone) x3
>>46703374
Get some programs for those drones, ASAP.
The player's not running an RCC with modded in sleaze and sleaze boosters, so that's what should go on those drones and vehicles. (Also, remember that attack is noisy, and so should be avoided in hosts.)
>>46702624
>gammaware
As of 4th edition something that is for all intents and purposes, a cyberbrain case, exists.
It recently occurred to me that Black Lagoon is just about runners in a modern setting.
Thoughts?
>>46703628
Huh, you're right...
>inb4 someone makes a black lagoon crew
>>46703628
>Thoughts?
Generic anime about retards that's trying to look cool too hard to be enjoyable. It's not even pink mohawk, it's just stupid.
>>46703374
>No ranks in Perception
>3 INT
Hope he enjoys critically glitching on Perception every session.
>>46703628
Hell yes.
East Asia makes a great setting. We're mucking about in Thailand right now, sparking a gang war to cover a covert snatch-and-grab, followed immediately by a multiple target gunship run. Daddy needs a new pair of cyber buttcheeks.
>>46703641
>Balalaika Face
10/10 would run with and be personal sex slave to
>>46703676
Man, if Black Lagoon is generic to you, I need your watch list!
>>46702624
She's always been a prime runner; equivalent to a team of PCs.
>>46703759
It's not because of my "watch list". It's because despite it's trying to be action movie, it has so much anime in it, I can't enjoy the action. And then it pretends to be serious while dumb shit happens all the time. I have not seen any decent action anime or cartoon yet. All I can remember are films, be it realistic operator stuff or completely 80ths nonsense.
>>46703374
As >>46703739 mentioned, needs perception, and more INT, especially to locate things in the Matrix. Matrix Searches can be super important for information, and Matrix Perception lets him actually locate anything running silent, icon's he's looking for, ect. And where are his knowledge skills? He should probably have more through free knowledge skills. And he needs a datajack.
Also, what points does he have in Animal Handling and Blades? If it's at 1, there's no point, especially in these skills, where the character doesn't seem to have any items relating to them. If he has a dog or something, maybe it's okay to have Animal Handling, but with Charisma 2.... There's no point. Also, get some points in Etiquette. Rolling 1 die on Etiquette is reaaallly bad. Even if he doesn't plan on interacting with people, unplanned interactions happen, and... yeah. Bad times.
Keep in mind, he'll probably want more programs, as he can switch them around while decking, so different ones for different situations are good. And it's an attribute array of 5432, not necessarily Attack, Sleaze, Data Processing, and Firewall in that order. So he can also switch those around mid-decking as well.
Also, I have yet to see a situation where Analytical Mind is useful that can't be circumvented with the player just thinking about it, but I guess that depends on your GM's style and how you argue it. I'd much rather take Quick Config (from Data Trails) for those 5 karma, particularly if he actually gets more programs, as he should. If he can scrounge up the 5 extra karma somewhere, Codeslinger is really good. Or Overclocker, but I don't remember where that is apparently.
And, just a tip, I think Sleaze actions are better to use than Attack actions in situations when you have a choice, especially in a host, to keep from being noticed for as long as possible.
>>46704730
Overclocker's in Run Faster, page 148. And it's a great thing I often forget because I'm currently wanting to try strange Technomancer builds.
(Best realization so far, Skinlink + Forms = Laugh at Full Matrix Defense.)
>>46704761
Thanks, mate. So yeah, Overclocker is probably a better option for 5 karma.Haha, technomancers. Someday they'll be good. Maybe when the new book comes out.I wish.
>>46704812
Much like a machine sprite specialist Techno is a rigger or decker's best friend, a Techno that wants to use some of those Complex Forms has a best friend in a mage that can make 'em invisible.
Once they have skinlink. Or were willing to make the sacrifice to have a datajack. (And in that case, why not take Otaku to Technomancer?)
>>46704860
trode hat and a spare cable should work, to, no?
>>46704917
Mostly to combat the possibility that the GM says that you need the connection to be to the device you're going to be hacking with or getting the DNI with.
would anyone here have a random mana storm table? I plan to use it for the up coming run
>>46704959
Yes, I know I worded that badly. I probably need to rest so I can word it properly, but probably wouldn't find the thread still up by the time I did.
>>46705055
Check out Awakened Lands from 3e, there's something in there.
>>46705069
thanks
Can a mage still track you with blood samples if you remove all your blood?
>>46705185
Yes, it's still a material link.
You'd have to stop being you for that to no longer be the case.
>>46705195
damn, that would have made a good story.
>>46705185
It's not hard to get blood substitutes. P4M0 comes in 5 litre doses, for one.
So we're going through the skill system at the moment in Chummer, trying to confirm everything works the way it's supposed to in the new branch. As far as I'm aware, this is everything that affects skills in one way or another. Is there anything we might be missing?
Everything that affects skills
Ware
Mnemonic Enhancer
Reflex recorder
Skillwires
Skilljack
Active Hardwires
Magic
Improved Ability
Lots of domain specific stuff
Mentor spirits
Qualities
Generic (Catlike, Double-Jointed, Natural Athlete, Perfect Time, Sense of direction), Water sprite, Trustworthy)
Generic Group(Grease Monkey, Vehicle Empathy)
Jack of all trades
Linguist, Technical school education
School of hard knocks
Aged
Deaf, Blind (Technically they don't do anything right now, gives general modifier to perception tests)
Dimmer Bulb
Illiterate
Incompetent
Loss of confidence
Oblivious
Quasimodo
Superhuman psychosis
Uncouth
Uneducated
Wounds
+Damage compensator
+High pain tolerance
Drugs/BTL can too, but that is not supported in chummer
>>46705521
If you're including skillwires, you should also include move by wire.
>>46705557
Ha, knew we were missing something! Thanks for pointing it out
When checking a SIN, the pool is device rating x2. Is the limit the DR, or is there no limit?
If you use an anthroform drone for sparring, will it get damaged?
>>46705698
By RAW, maybe? But in any realistic sense, you can't damage metal with meat.
>>46705675
I'd say that if you want to have a limit, make it based on what's checked re: the chart on 364. Even if you use a bleeding edge device, if all you use it to check is 'do you have a SIN' you're not going to catch much of anyone.
>>46705698
The sparring specific ones won't, and the non-sparring ones only will if you can do, and decide to do physical.
>>46705712
T damage anything with "meat" you need to take -4 DP to turn damage into physical. And then have enough STR+Net leftover to surpass Armor+structure soak roll. 3 str 4 unarmed dufus will never harm any metal. A 6 str 6 unarmed is in "maybe" category. A cybered troll with 10 Str will wreck your drone to bits.
>>46705754
Don't forget shock gloves. I'd also say something about adepts with Electric Strike or Acid Strike, but honestly.
Adept. They should be exceptions to a lot of things.
Anyone familiar with Paranoia: High Programmers? Think it would be possible to refluff it to shadowrun?
I was thinking setting it in Hong Kong, with the players being members of the executive council. The corps would take the place of the departments, and probably different triads and criminal organizations would take the place of the secret societies. Does it sound doable without extensive conversion work?
>>46704730
>And he needs a datajack.
Control rig doubles as a datajack
>>46707117
a Control Rig provides a universal data connector for the purpose of a direct wired connection
a Datajack also provides 1 noise reduction when wireless.
>>46707117
It's close, but a datajack gives a free point of noise reduction. In addition to any Noise Reduction on the RCC.
Otherwise, yes. The RCC does double as a datajack, but the datajack's not hugely expensive and one more noise reduction's always good.
>>46707152
Control rig != RCC
Not saying that you're wrong, but you shouldn't confuse people when you say RCC and mean control rig.
>>46707209
Yes, you're right. I'm just so used to people talking about rigging stuff in general and saying that it's like a free datajack that I don't always noticed which part they're talking about.
At least when I say it, it's clearer that I've messed up.
Hey /srg/, I've got a lore question for you guys for a story I'm planning on writing soon.
Main character is a teenager who awakens after a particularly heinous prank by her ex-best friend and her new crew (I'm thinking a spontaneous bit of conjuring wherein she summons a spirit of some kind to help her get out of the situation, then passes out from drain/shock). Because of the environment (shitty high school of angst) and her personal history, the spirit wasn't exactly "nice."
The girl at this point wants Control and to the happy again after so much shit has happened to her (mom dies, dad becomes lifeless and neglects her in his own grief, best friends suddenly turns into gigantic bitch, etc etc). So I'm thinking, magic-wise, she's going to treat it as a tool to gain control over her life and for personal advancement-gain. Not in the malevolent evil sorcerer do-whatever-the-fuck-I-want way, at least not initially. It's at this point she gets approached by a mentor spirit - a more adult looking, aggressive, and confident version of herself who promises to help her reach her full potential.
The way I see it, shadowrun magic is a deeply personal thing, and nobody "perfectly" fits into any one tradition. Rather, they grow into the one they start to walk over time.
Given the situation and the story I want to tell, I'm thinking the tradition in question is Black Mage, and the mentor spirit is a slightly twisted Adversary. As the story unfolds, the character will descend deeper into the dark side of things until she gets to a point of no return, at which point she has to make a choice that could have her give up everything she's gained and start over (basically switching mentor-spirits/traditions).
So what I'm asking is, would Black Magic be a good starting point for the character's magical tradition while she's still learning, given her background and goals, and has anyone seen a character go through a tradition shift?
>>46707368
Is she a loli?
>>46707401
Then my advice is to make her one.
>>46707407
But the story already has one that can see the future. She's even been kidnapped by a creepy guy in a skintight body suit.
>>46707368
Aside from the fact that this entire thing is too Twilight for my tastes. You are fine, mages tradition is essencialy what rituals (broadly speaking) they follow when performing magic. I'ts entirely fine to be learning black magic from get go,just remember that overwhelming majority of people don't awaken at high Magic.
>>46707414
What does that have to do with making her into a loli?
>>46707368
My recommendation would be to go with one of the possession traditions.
And if things get worse, well, instead of Great Form spirits, perhaps it's an ally spirit that wants a more... permanent body.
>>46707461
Is there a particular reason?
>>46707418
Theres a lolifag in the thread, ignore him.
Black Magic or maybe Chaos Magic are the closest fit. Adversary might not be the appropriate mentor spirit, because the path you want her to take is a path of self-empowerment.
>has anyone seen a character go through a tradition shift?
No, because my runners are shit at roleplaying.It hurts
>>46707490
>Adversary might not be the appropriate mentor spirit, because the path you want her to take is a path of self-empowerment.
What?! Adversary is all about self empowerment self determination and screwing everyone else over. There may be some conflict if you become A CEO and have to obey corporate court but before that screwing your bosses, colleagues and everyone else in your way is the name of the game.
>>46707490
+1 chaos magic, thunderbird and raven are good mentor spirits too.
>>46707479
Lets you do horrible things to enemies and get yourself allies (easier if you can prepare them for possession, though) and the ally spirit is so that Inhabitation becomes available.
Prepare a sacrifice and have a roll off. You can get alllll kinds of interesting results of Inhabitation.
>>46707540
I see where Anon is coming from. Adversary is also very much about explicitly Rebelling against the cosmic order. The protagonist does on have a chip on her shoulder concerning authority, but it's more frustration with their perceived incompetence than anything else. The Adversary isn't a perfect fit, but I do think he's a very close one that she could grow into - however, this hinges on The Adversary being the one to find her and offer his assistance in learning magic, rather than her seeking the Adversary out to emulate him, which is how Mentor spirits are meant to function IIRC.
>>46707622
Well, there's that fluff story of the guy in a geomancy class at university where Coyote (IIRC) shows up and says, "These people don't know shit, come hop in my magic van."
Whether it's the person seeking out the mentor (or realising that a given mentor is the one they want or need to follow) or the mentor seeking the mage is a theological debate more than a simple question.
>>46707622
Mentor Spirits can come to you or you can come to them, it depends on the individual situation.
>>46707690
that sounds hilarious and awesome
And >>46707958
Well, guess that settles it.
Thanks for the help and advice, anons.
Does anyone have any brilliant insight as to a map I can use tonight for a Japanese destroyer-size warship's internal compartments? I'm a lazy GM and I'm hoping something like that already exists
>>46708646
Here's one from a Type 45, it's the top missile destroyer in the Royal Navy right now.
>>46708646
>>46708711
And here's one from a WWII ship, though I'm not enough of a shipnerd to know whether the Japanese ships would be very different from these Western ones.
So how big are the megas, anyways? I'm reading Market Panic and I can't figure it out.
The Shiawase section mentions things such as "...Shiawase Manufacturing brings in over a trillion nuyen for the corporation each year," (I don't speak enough corporate to know if that means revenue or profit) Biotech brings in "over two trillion dollars", and other divisions are in the hundreds of millions.
However, there's also this
>Renraku has the most employees of any megacorp, with over three million corporate citizens. Once you add non-citizen employees and subsidiaries, this number grows to close to eighty million. If you take into account the overall support network and related businesses that draw on Renraku money for jobs, they indirectly employ around a billion people.
3 million isn't enough people to make it as one of the 150 largest cities in the world, or in the 130 most populous countries in the world. It seems like an incredibly small number for the most populous megacorp if (as other fluff suggests) everyone who lives in the arcologies and other extraterritorial areas are citizens, and things like the armies of the AAAs getting citizenship for their service. Have I been playing Shadowrun wrong, and rather than corp citizenship being common among direct employees it's like the early Roman Empire, where there's a very tiny number who actually have citizenship (and if so, are they spread out throughout the ranks of the corp, so that janitors as well as executives have citizenship if they were born in the right place)?
>>46709105
Writers cannot math.
>>46709105
I think it might be that only 3 million have the equivalent of a Full Corporate SIN versus a Corporate Limited SIN.
>>46709153
That would make sense, if they hadn't specified 'non-citizen employees and subsidiaries'. I might just rule that group as the Limited SIN faction, because 80 million sounds about right for a global population.
>>46708711
>>46708759
Awesome, thanks man
>>46709105
Some justification is that a whole bunch of people were killed off with VITAS, IIRC. Like, a lot. But also, yeah, bad math. Archologies could also be more restrictive than we make them out to be. Not everyone gets corporate citizenship. Or wants it. And the large swaths of poor, unrecognized people could make up a lot of what's left of the world's population. Of course, I'm just speculating here, but that's what I can see being used as justification for the numbers. Does anyone have a reference for the world's total population in SR?
>>46709105
I should add, the reason I mentioned money is because Wal-Mart makes about half a trillion dollars a year, and they need more than 2 million employees. Even at O&G companies that have a very small number of employees relative to their revenue manage to do so by outsourcing all the actual work and just have high-level executives and paper-pushers on their rolls, and that doesn't jibe with other sources about how the megas directly control operations with workers who are not employed by subsidiaries, but are named as Aztechnology employees directly.
>>46709282
It's all super-contradictory. Going off of the Sixth World Almanac (and extrapolating a bit using censuses and what they say about birth rates), it's somewhere around 7 billion, which fits with offhand comments from writers that the population is about modern levels. But all the numbers elsewhere are contradictory, so free_shrugs.jpg
>>46709377
Okay, fair. In that case, they probably just don't know how corporations work. And maybe Limited Corporate SINs don't count as being a citizen.
Megas
Despite the fact that most CGL writers tend to ignore the As and AAs other than the pet AAs the megas aren't as massive as they tend to be protrayed.
They are still massive and for the most part larger than current multinationals but still much smaller than most modern nations (although their GDP is comparable to many).
I would say that most of the megas are roughly 2-10 times bigger than walmart in terms of economic output but that most of their "employees" are not corporate SINners but instead are national SINners who receive a Corp limited SIN while they work for a Mega.
In this effect it's similar to how lots of corporations currently have actually employees which are supplemented by huge numbers of temporary workers that are actually supplied by outsourcing firms.
>>46709516
Yeah, I'd assume most low-level employees don't count as full citizens of a megacorp.
You wouldn't want your cashiers actually having any rights or anything after all. They're called wageslaves for a reason.
Are there any good tokens for civvies?
>>46709516
>>46710208
>At the 15 Karma level the character has the Corporate Limited SIN; he has somehow gained a position in a megacorporation from the outside. He may have been hired as a wageslave (or been the minor child of a person hired as a wageslave), or perhaps brought in by someone in the megacorp who saw advantage in his skill, talent, area of expertise, or some other useful attribute. Under most circumstances the Corporate Limited SIN replaces any National SIN. His Corporate Limited SIN becomes part of the Global SIN Registry, to which law enforcement agencies and security corporations alike have access. Many of these Corporate Limited SINs record whether or not the character is Awakened. The Corporate Limited SIN allows the character to be employed by the megacorp under most circumstances, and it replaces any National SIN that the character may have had previously. With the Corporate SIN, the character can be gainfully employed by the issuing megacorporation as a wageslave, a low-ranking member of the corporation’s security services, or an enlisted member of the corporation’s military. Though he could have a secret-level security clearance to perform his duties, he cannot rise to a leadership position, become an officer, or be part of the megacorporation’s Special Forces (such as the Red Samurai).
The text of the Corporate Limited SIN Quality states that they are handed out to wageslaves, grunts, and anyone working for the corp who has any kind of specialized knowledge or training. Why have this category if there are not large numbers of people you want subject to the corp's laws (because that's what the SIN gets you, not any special rights that wouldn't be revoked the moment the bosses deem them inconvenient), if all you do is outsource? The point of the corps having extraterritoriality is so that they can assume direct control over the lives of the people and force them to obey corporate laws, not having a foreign workforce.
Hey does Evo have a specialized HTR group like Red Samurai or Firewatch or Jaguar Guard?
Also, side note, just read about the Dawkins Group and holy shit that's so awesome do you think they diversify to be more PC or would they all just be Dryads and Shapeshifters?
>>46710996
Dawkins probably needs all kinds, I'd imagine.
I also like to think that Evo has at least one HTR team that looks like this.
>>46711049
>muh dick
>OPERATED
>>46711049
Impending Rape.jpeg
>>46710996
I doubt there's enough of those special metas to go around, especially ones who are social adepts or just really charismatic. If nothing else, Market Panic has a hot ork lady agent.
EVO undoubtedly has their own special forces, but I don't think they've been named.
>>46711119
>>46711181
I'm still trying to figure out how I'd build them, both to fit appearances and make them a viable team. They're half HTR, half PR stunt.
Far right is definitely a street sam
Second right could be another street sam or a pistol adept.
Middle is a throwing adept. She's probably also got a few social powers and is the media face for the group.
I can't decide if it's cooler for second left to be a punchy adept or a mage who's so sure of herself she doesn't need a gun. Maybe mystic adept, to be both. Hasn't replaced her missing eye because "muh Essence"
Far left is a street sam who likes her heterochromic cybereyes.
>>46711364
>>46711364
Left to right: Sammy, Mysad, Drone bunny, decker, reformed (allegedly) cyber psycho.
>>46710996
Corporate Download many editions ago mentions Yamatetsu as having a Special Security Detail. That said, they've been through so many changes I'd just make some shit up with hyperaugmented Russian Spetznatz types
>>46705521
Not sure what you are looking for so will list everything that comes to mind.
Chipjack ware
Pain Editor ware
Analyse device spell
Diagnostics Sprite Power
Perceptive Quality
Hawk eye Quality
Background count for adepts with Improved ability and dual natured creatures. (This might be way irrelevant, I am not sure how detailed you are going with it.)
Don't remember anything else from top of my head.
Man the seattle sprawl box set is super lame.
It's such a lazy copypasta of 4 previous iterations of the seattle guide.
>>46714327
Sad, but somehow i'm not really surprised.
Assuming you were given a chance to direct a SR movie with unlimited budget, how would you make it?
>Live action or Animated?
>Pink Mohawk or Black trench coat?
>what kind of plot?
>What timeframe?
>other decisions
>>46714915
Live action. Modern VFX allow for it and this is likely to have more budget.
Black trench coat. But have some accident cause the run to go FUBAR and turn into pink mohawk escape routine. Sewers are optional.
Just another day at the office. No seriously I think few people really appreciate how cool routine run of established runner is. Each job that isn't a deliberate milk run should basically be mission impossible. Except done by people who are so used to this shit they don't even get phased for the most part.
5ED. SR editions reflect culture of the time they are set in. unless you are going for "return to true cyberpunk" nostalgia your best bet is latest edition.
>>46714915
i believe it goes without saying that there would be 1 of each "class" represented within in the movie.
>>46714915
I would love to have a live action Shadowrun TV show to be honest. Each episode could be its own run, and big runs would be multiple episodes. I'd have it be closer to a black trenchcoat campaign, but some whacky hijinks would also occur.
If I had to have a single movie, it would probably take course over one run, a big one, with stages of planning the run, possibly over a week, or a few weeks, showing pieces of the world and building up the characters, justifying decisions they make on the run. Ultimately, it would go loud (doesn't it always?) and the runners would barely escape with their lives. Someone might die.
>>46715872
TV show would work far better, definitely. 40 minute episodes, multiple characters who may have relations to one another as Runners, or be totally seperate from one another. This allows optimum exploration of all the facets of the Sixth World.
Hell, if you want a basic example of that a Mage Private Investigator storyline would look like, basically take the Constantine TV series and dump it in a shittier cityscape with a lot more neon.
>>46714915
It would be live action
It would start pink mohawk to test the waters and possibly draw some normies in for that extra revenue, but by the end of the first season when the first street samurai and the shaman get assassinated in an airport terminal in Sicily it would take a nose dive into black trench coat
The first season, or test season would be some serious pink mohawk stuff on the mean streets of Seattle, including but not limited to the shaman having a water spirit that acts as his stand in one fight, the magician's burnout level of addiction to russian roulette getting downright macabre, the shaman constantly boning the hostess of a local Japanese restaurant run by a Yakuza which in turn is run by Shiawase in the former KE HTR's home even when she tells him not to, and so on.
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>>46715872
I could definitely see a show paced out like Firefly working. Some episodes are jobs, others are more character focused, and a background network of other underworld characters is slowly built up as the show continues.
Even the character archetypes are all mostly there.
>>46715872
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>>46717283
On the TV series front, why not something with an overarching plot leading to something big somehow? Like popping a Universal Brotherhood outpost prior to the events of Bug City. Or something like Hong Kong's Walled City incident.
I mean, meandering aimlessly about random Runs with no overarching goal or main plot in mind would run its course eventually. Nothing that says that the plot can't weave its way towards this big calamity event over the course of two or three seasons, natch, but having a series of random Runs purely because 'well, we gotta survive' would grow stale with an audience eventually.
>>46717353
For my idea, the first season probably should just be small time milk runs and the like just so the audience gets acquainted with the main characters, a bit like Person of Interest with only maybe minor hints at the larger plot in a few episodes, but in the second season is when you let the overarching plot come into gear.
>>46717344
Hell, I was even thinking along the lines of Farscape, myself. Same sorta principle, at least; buncha fugitives on the run, sometimes gotta do a job to get supplies or sustainable assets, sometimes we focus on one character (or multiple characters and their relationships), while having a steadily growing narrative that grows as it turns out that one of the party members has something that's hella vital to some corps in relation to some corp warfare or doomsday scenario.
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>>46717283
It sounds like we all pretty much would be watching the same show, more or less. At least we definitely know what we want, neh?
