>mfw a burn player was retarded near me
>mfw a burn player took seven minutes shuffling his cards in response to a spellskite
>mfw a burn player tried to tell me burn is a difficult deck to play
>mfw burn players are autistic and no one likes them
For everyone else, let's discuss modern. What decks, purchases, brews, secret tech, etc. are you running?
>>46631201
i still play eggs
>>46631276
That's hardcore, what do you think of tho per sword in eggs?
Kiki-chord, loving it
>Secret TechSummoning trap if more control decks start showing up
>>46631335
I already run 3 voice, and have never really had a problem with control. What's your list?
>>46631286
i'd be willing to try it if i had bought thopter foundries when they were still less than a dollar
really no need for the sword with all the cheap-as-free artifacts i'm already playing
Help with Zoo.
Was pure zoo, added CoCo. Love it, need to cut spells and add creatures. No goyfs.
What do?
>>46631386
It's only 30$ for a player of foundries bro.
>>46631395
How's sin prodder working out for you?
>>46631407
>It's only 30$
i can wait for it to crash again, i'm pretty broke
>>46631201
>hating on burn this hard
>>46631395
I'd cuthe become immense, helix and harmonize for 6 mana dorks.
>>46631201
Why are you always so salty about burn? I'm pretty sure you're the only one too.
I'm not even a burn player, but I'm fascinated with the fact that you hate burn so much that you dedicate your precious time to say rude stuff like this in a taiwanese art forum.
>>46631438
Seems like he's just telling it like it is.
>>46631456
Making retards feel bad about their gay deck is well worth my time.
>>46631395
Doesn't seem that reliable but congrats on the original list.
>>46631364
testing out fiend hunter for chordable creature removal, I wasnt satisfied with shriekmaw
Also debating the Sin Collector and Kataki for 2 more stony silence
The summoning trap idea is mostly just cause its a really funny card
>>46631481
People talk shit about my deck all day and irl. The salt only makes my day better. I doubt you'll be more than a small annoyance to anyone, but whatever.
>>46631335
I haved 8rack for almost 2 years and i am finally getting bored of playing it. This deck is on my mind. How is kiki-chord?. How many voices do you need? 2-3?
>>46631456
I don't get this either. Burn is definitely not the hardest deck to play and not the most exiting matchup either.
But it's not like there is anything wrong with the deck and it's not broken or anything.
Personally I think playing against Tron is way more annoying than Burn. I haven't played against it since the Eye ban though.
I'll stop playing burn when you stop being this upset by it.
What other decks besides Infect should I build for the ultimate FUCK YOU experience?
>>46631532
>How is kiki-chord?
I find it really fun
>Walls can stop aggro decks
>Restoration angel is an MVP
>Can potentially outgrind decks like Jund
>Combo can catch alot of decks
>Voice + Huntmaster can really mess with control decks
>How many voices do you need? 2-3?
3 seems like the ideal number
>>46631616
yeah i was thinking of putting huntmaster in . Is he a sideboard option?
>>46631549
You could build Splinter Twin.
>>46631201
Looks like someone got triggered by the discussion in the last thread.
>>46631490
Doesn't Fiend Hunter work as a rock-solid counter to the Griselbrand/Emrakul Through the Breach decks? Chord it at the start of combat, and it gets around Emmy's Racism Clause. It's doubtful that they'd hold up or even have protection for it.
>>46631423
When it's become immense off the top, it's amazing. Take 6 now or 6 lager. All in all its just raw advantage or damage.
>>46631444
What's best? Hierarchs?
>>46625072
how does this deck play out? It looks fun
>>46631661
I did want to play Splintertwin. What a shame.
>>46631651
my list is >>46631490
and he's been a mainboard MVP
The token provides another body to fuel voice tokens or chump, the lifegain can make a huge difference (also why Lone missionary is Mainboard). Restoration angel makes him even more value. The werewolf trigger forces the other player to make plays or risk losing to value. The werewolf blast can pick off creatures that are hiding like Dark Confidants.
>EOT chord for Huntmaster for the heal and wolf (Or get the wolf to chump)
>Draw card and pass my turn
>Flip blast his creature
>Resto angel to reset it
>>46631702
The debate im having is Fiend Hunter vs Celestial Purge. I originally ran a purge but a one-of spell felt like it rarely made an impact. Having a chordable answer seems preferable. But, Purge is such a useful tool since it can hit so much. If I'm not satisfied with Fiend I'll probably go back to Purge or try something else entirely.
>>46631768
I dunno, I think I'd rather have the power to drop Fiend Hunter as a surprise killer (especially since he leaves a body on board).
It also combos brutally with Restoration Angel and Kiki himself, which Purge can't do.
If you're chording him up, the same removal applies to both Chord and Purge.
What black or red noncreatures are you even looking to exile?
>>46631549
>affinity
>>46631201
I play burn
I love the salt of people loosing to it
>>46631549
Bubble hulk or mono white prison.
>>46631549
Tron
Bogles
Lantern Control
Grishoalbrand
>>46631872
>What black or red noncreatures are you even looking to exile?
Mainly Blood moon or LotV with the main issue is that the decks that run those cards (Jund), usually will have a removal spell like Terminate or Bolt to kill the Fiend Hunter and bring their creatures back. Other issues include being a double white which can be a bit clunky. Overall, definitely leaning towards Fiend Hunter, but purge should not be discounted.
>>46631201
>hating on any one archetype
>not playing, enjoying, and mastering all archetypes and top decksnot doing the above so you know the best ways to lock them down with Lantern Control
I bet some of you faggots don't even play limited.
>>46631549
taking turns
>>46632016
Oh yeah? Got a list?
>>46631201
>Implying Burn isn't the most fairest deck in the meta
Just tap creatures sideways and play spells
No cheating in creatures
No way of preventing people to have fun
No way of stealing a win apart from an honest top deck
>>46631978
>Blood Moon
Oh. Right. I've been playing Stompy too long.
You might consider grabbing a second Qasali Pridemage. A local guy plays two, and they always seem to be relevant.
As for LotV, don't you have enough creatures to sneak in? If you're keeping a one-of silver bullet in the side, I'd want it to be tutorable.
I dunno, you know the deck better than I do.
>>46631549
Fellow burn player with an infect deck here
What do you think will work best for this meta, Burn or Infect
As far as I know:
>Burn
+Doesn't need board presence
+Can play around most other decks
-Folds to Life Gain if you get caught off guard
-Topdeck lands are heartbreaking
>Infect
+Can win as early as Turn 2
+Life Gain isn't a problem
-Creatures on board can be a problem sometimes
-Folds to decks with bolt or heavy removal
Tron bros, what are you running in place of the eye?I always hear the MK announcer whenever I get smoked by burn. HA HA HA, Red deck wins... FATALITY
>>46632116
Friend of mine is just replacing Eye with either a 4th Grove or pic related. Although he also wants to run Thought-Knots either in main or sideboard since its so good.
>>46632116
>running in place of the eye?
Try Sanctum of Ugin.
>>46632101
I'd say either/or is a good choice. I'm the only Burn player at my store but there's an Infect player who shows up sometime, we usually have tough games. With the Eldrazi winter over I'd say Burn, since Lightning Bolt will be seen in more decks and they stop your Infect dudes.
>>46632035
nope, fuck that deck
>>46632098
>You might consider grabbing a second Qasali Pridemage. A local guy plays two, and they always seem to be relevant.
Seems reasonable, I'll consider it
>s for LotV, don't you have enough creatures to sneak in?
Surprisingly, not really. Most of my T1/T2 drops are Dorks or Walls with the exception of Voices. If they have a Goyf on defense theres very little I can do. Lili doesn't destroy me but it makes alot of games very uphill
>>46632158
Why for the love of fuck would you ever run Sea Gate in Tron? Only time you're hellbent with the deck is turn 20 vs control if you're drawing really bad.
>>46632116
Academy ruins and Breeding Pool mostly for looping O-Stones and Wurmcoil, also run a 1 of Mindslaver for a lock if all else fails.
>>46632294
Well thats the exact reason, for late game reach since you don't have an eye anymore to search with.
It would be a 1-of anyway and I think that its worth testing.
>>46632101
if thopter/sword becomes a thing, infect is in a better position due to having main deck artifact removal, as well as evasive threats that don't care about life gain. I play infect though, so maybe I'm biased.
>>46631456
/tg/ is salty about anything tier 1 because they lose to that shit so much.
>>46632327
But if you're drawing lands and scryings for 20 turns in a row before you're hellbent, you're already dead even if you're goldfishing. Even the slowest UWx list has thrown enough snap bolts or beat your face in with Colonnade. In the matchups where you actually need just a bit of reach (post-side Jund, creature toolbox, Infect if you've managed to remove their 1-2 threats from their opening 7, hatebears/DT and other GW piles) getting back a Stone or a Wurmcoil does much more than another chance at topdeck.
>>46631456
Because Burn doesn't involve any decision trees, the games with and against it are solved from the get go (given optimal play of course, lots of aggro babbys are stupid enough to Atarka pump blindly and not play around lifegain effects g2/3 etc) which is basically the same as rolling a die to determine the winner. This isn't fun nor interesting, but something lots of people have to deal with it on a weekly basis.
>>46631549
Lantern is definitely the ultimate FUCK YOU deck when it works. It was bloom before.
>>46632387
I only ran 1 Viridian Corrupter in the mainboard during the last meta, however if thopther/sword becomes a thing then I would run 2. I think that the thopther/sword combo is fairly slow to outpace Burn though, and it won't be enough to require burn to run any mainboard artifact hate.
I don't know, maybe its because I didn't have too great of a time with Infect ever since I finished it around a month ago, and going 1-3 with it at an LGS by losing to two Burn decks and a Grixis deck didn't exactly make me convinced that it was a deck worth running in a control and bolt-heavy meta.
>>46632418
How on earth would you get back a Stone or Wurmcoil in Tron?
>>46631724
Hierarchs and birds.
>>46631549
turbo fog without a win condition draw every single game :o
>>46632527
Run a blue source and academy ruins.
>>46632561
>>46632594
We're not talking about GR tron are we?
Because if we are then you guys are retarded.
Can you show us on the doll where the Goblin Guide touched you?
>>46632607
What a rebuttal.
>>46632225
I really don't like sanctum. It's not live if I don't already have a threat and doesn't trigger off wurmcoil. Still, kinda neat that it triggers of Karn and Ugin.
>>46632607
It's a brave new world anon. Of you have a better idea, I'd love to hear it.
>>46632683
Literally mentioned two cards, Seagate Wreckage and a 4th grove.
>>46632701
How do I reliably get hellbent? I can't remember a time when I didn't have cards in hand. Most of it land.
>>46632701
And, like >>46632294 said, you're never ever hellbent with the deck and the chances of a random card off the top being as effective as a 100% certain Wurmcoil or O-Stone are low.
I doubt it will ever be pro-tour viable, but I want to make it good enough for FNM. Feeling of Dread is in there because the deck originally was spirit tribal + tapping creatures and I haven't figured out what to cut it with. I'm thinking Remand, but that's pricey.
>>46632780
Unless you're playing with other casuals don't expect to win FNM either.
>>46632780
>flash in rattlechains
>give geist DOUBLE HEXPROOF
Ignore me, I'm just musing.
>>46632806
>Winning
>Ever
That's not my style. I just want it tuned as much as I can.
>>46632815
That's what makes the deck so busted. No one knows how to handle double hexproof.
>>46631395
Cut Become Immense and the Rancors.
>>46632780
I'd cut jace for something else. Maybe splash green for coco. Surely their are one or two more value spirits you can dredge up from sets past.
>muh interaction
what about when I burn the fuck out of your shitty gay creatures? is that not interacting?
>>46633022
It's only interactive if it's blue, you faggot.
>>46633022
Just ignore them man. No good can come of it.
>>46633057
>le hope you have enough counterspells in hand until you can play something huge face
>>46633117
How would that let me outaggro stuff?
I saw something about shitbrews
>>46633150
Also, did you know Strangleroot Geist is a spirit? Green, I'm telling you man. Abrupt decay is also a spirit.
>>46633218
I played against this a couple months ago. Landed chalice on 1 turn one and he scooped.Lost the second game when he landed the quest and rammed krakens and leviathans down my throat
>>46632035
One just place at the starcity modern event, the list is interesting so if you're interested check it out
>>46633332
Any thoughts on a decent counter to chalice in those colors? Or is Spell Pierce the only decent option for a blue deck?
>>46633580
Spell Pierce is solid as is Anule. You can also attempt to bounce it after the fact and snipe it on the way back down with a leak or some such spell. Splashing color for more options is also a good option.
>>46631201
Burn is awesome. I play it in Modern and in Legacy.
>>46633022
You interact with the opponent's life points. That's interaction, right?
>>46633861
nice blog post m8
>>46632780
Drogskol and Rattlechains are solid, but I feel that Geist is a weakness. What are your thoughts on some sort of aura swap scheme with Tallowisp and Arcanum Wings and Flitterstep. Feels like I should just run Bogles.
You could consider some sort of 'hatebears' setup with flashing in Labyrinth, Rhetoric, Nikko-onna.
Throwing out ideas.
>>46633218
That does look like a fun deck to fuck around with. I just wish there was a backup plan for when quest fails that wasn't just spam owls and dig for another quest.
Is Living End a good deck? Im thinking of building it. What are its bad matchups? Does it have a good matchup against Burn?
What does interactive mean? Like when you chat with your opponent while you fetch a land and shuffle your deck?
>>46633988
Most posts here are blog posts. The people talk about what decks they play and what theyre planning on playing.
Burn isnt a broken deck, they have lines of play and nuances that beginners dont understand. Ive seen beginners wiff games they could have won.
>>46634138
It's interactive if I use it to stop you from interacting with me.
>>46634167
i didn't say there was anything wrong with it. I play burn in both formats aswell.
>>46632116
Mono Green Eldrazi Tron. It is the future of tron decks.
>>46634008
Geist is intended to be a bomb, as I wanted a cheap beater, but Tallowisp would be a great way to make the deck into a kind of Enchanted Spirits type deal. I don't know if I'd go for a hatebear setup, though; I doubt I'd be able to lock the board reliably.
>>46634103
>What are its bad matchups?
Any deck that can run Relic of Progenitus. So literally every deck ever assembled. I don't even know why people still play it.
>>46634103
Bad matchups include Burn (Gnaw to the Bone and Brittle Boar helps from side) because you don't interact and take damage from Street Wraiths and your mana base, and anything with Remand, against control your plan B of hardcasting the fatties somestimes works. Warping Wail has also made Ricochet trap somewhat useless, only Lantern and Tron players run it in significant numbers though. Affinity and chord decks can sac their entire team in response to LE if they have an enabler but things get easier after sideboard with Damping Matrix and Ingot Chewers. Any "fair" deck should be a bye.
>>46634270
Because Relic is usually only a 1 or 2 of in the sideboard and it can be played around. Bin hate in general is nearly non-existent at the moment.
>>46634103
>Does it have a good matchup against Burn?
No.
I've tested versions with 11 sideboard slots dedicated to burn and it still loses to burn.
>>46634270
Not many decks run graveyard hate though. Why waste sideboard slots on an obscure deck you might not see?
>>46634371
Dang it has a bad burn matchup? My meta is like 50% burn so I feel like id jam full playsets of Brindle Boar and Gnaw to the Bone. Maybe even leave some Boars mainboard. Do you know of a deck that crushes Burn?
>>46634428
Damn nevermind then. It looked like the perfect deck, fairly cheap, interesting interactions and so on. But my local meta has way too much Burn. Maybe I should just buy into Affinity.
>>46634503
It's practically impossible to lose to burn with Soul Sisters but that's about all the deck does. It folds to Jund, Tron, Infect and any combo deck in equal measure.
>>46631395
Kird ape seems a lot worse than goblin guide. I'd say work your way up to that. Buy them one at a time.
>Need to cut spells
First one that stands out is the one of harmonize. I don't play zoo though so maybe it's intergral or some shit.
Also how good is that Boros Reckoner? You could cut it and run the full 4 Knight's and possibly some Birds of Paradise.
>>46634503
Maybe it's just me losing all hope at the start of the match and misplaying everything because of it, but I tend to do horribly against merfolk as burn.
>>46634676
No its not you. Merfolks really good against Burn. Spreading Seas hurts burns manabase badly. They might never see another land the whole game.
>>46631395
You're not playing enough creatures for Coco. You need like 27 to hit 2 off Coco with any consistency.
>>46634217
You say that but I haven't seen any evidence of this.
>>46634638
>Kird ape seems a lot worse than goblin guide.
Not him, but Snapcaster is a lot worse when it can't trade with a creature. Also, since his list looks like it plans to go a little bigger, and such longer as a result, it means that GG triggers become a lot worse as the opponent will be able to take advantage of the lands they get from it.
>>46634920
Ok fair enough. You did also mention that the gameplan for that deck seems a little more midrangey so I won't rip on that. Still not loving the reckoners unless I'm missing something obvious.
Is Zendikar VS Eldrazi still worth it for the Avenger of Zendikar, Temple, Sower, Artisian and It that betrays?
>>46635074
Not that guy but Reckoned is just a solid creature. First Strike on demand, punishes bolt use, and can trade with goyfs.
>>46634582
>Maybe I should just buy into Affinity.
Not a great burn matchup either.
In a 150-man PTQ, I placed 3rd. My only loss in the swiss was to burn.
If you have a lot of burn, just play Abzan Melira combo. You'll beat burn without even trying.
>>46635127
Get on amazon or tcgplayer and add em up.
>>46634051
The idea is, since it's such an all-in strategy on quest, to make it as robust as possible. To that end, I'm trying to figure out what the usual counters are to a 1-mana enchantment in modern worth packing answers for.
>>46635127
Do you need all of the cards listed? Can you find it at exactly or below MSRP? If the answer is no to one or more, the answer is noUnless you want to play the decks with a friend like they're designed for.
>>46635074
No, I'm not fond of the reckoners either. KotR seems like the more powerful 3 drop.
>>46631395
I would cut the 2 rancor and add 2 more Qasali Pridemage. I would also cut become immense and harmonize, and add 2 ghor-clan rampager.
>>46631201
So how are the Madness spells looking like they'll do in Modern?
If a red deck can get a reliable discard, the 3-damage one could be bolts 5-8. Maybe use Newhiri, though she's not an absolutely amazing 'Walker for any Burn build.i really like the black drain one
So, if I like Stax in Legacy (in concept, anyways), as well as Hatebears, how do I compete in the new environment? Is it possible to shitbrew some Sword of the Meek with something like Bitter Blossom, or is the complete lack of Smokestacks in Modern going to hose any chance I have at playing this?
>>46635163
>>46635155
>Cheapest ZvsE: 10euro
>All the cards I wanted from it: 8.63 euro
Never mind
>>46635339
The closest thing "you don't get to play".dec is Lantern Control (see the top card, mill away relevant ones, Ensnaring Bridge locks up the ground, surgical extraction, spellbombs, pithing needles and Ghirapur Aether Grid deal with threats). GW Hatebears and monowhite Death&Taxes are developing-tier, fold to basically anything that's not Tron since their strength is in messing with a nonbasic manabase with Arbiter+Ghost Quarter etc. Thopter Foundry will probably be just a basic Esper Control shell with the combo in it or a race to Tezzeret ultimate in strictly UB.
>>46635236
I like asylum visitor. I was thinking it might be good in grixis with Jvp. I'm a suckered for bob remixes but this one seems like it might actually be good.
>>46635420
You might factor in geist if your looking for value more than those specific cards.
>>46631479
2 sideboarded and 2 come in if i take out the nacatls
i feel like i used to see this card more often
its one of my favorites
>>46632588
>turbo fog with howling mine as a win condition
ftfy
>>46635637
>tfw tried to build a deck using Swans, Blasphemous Act, Boros Reckoner, and Soulfire Grandmasters
>he plays decks that are shut down with literally one card
????
Whats the best way to sell cards online?
Ebay sucks tb h
>>46635967
I've used ebay often but I've been thinking about trying TCGplayer to sell cards. Also Picatrade is a great way to get rid of cards that are unlikely to sell, like jank rare foils.
>>46635918
I play those decks to make people waste sideboard slots on those hate cards. And punish people who dont. Lmao
>>46636172
>wasting a sideboard slot
>that just beat your deck
>so it's wasted
>because it was put to use
Restore Balance on a stick,i mean how fucking icy is Balance on a Panoptic Mirror
also scepter + silence or fog
>>46636049
If you want cards for cards, i really like puca. Sent in a foil Sarkhan Vol and got $19.50 worth of credit for it. Who the FUCK is going to buy a foil sarkhan vol for cash? My Lgs wouldn't even take it. I ended up getting an arcbound ravager by mailing out only a few cards that I wasn't using.
If you want cash though, obviously don't use the site.
>>46634103
It has a bad matchup with chalice on zero.
>>46636751
>what is Beast From Within
>>46634503
Merfolk has a pretty good burn matchup.
>>46636793
>>what is oxidize
>>46636609
Yea, that's what I said...
>>46636834
>running oxidize in living end
>>46636793
>me I counter your beast from within and you poopoo your little faggot meme playing pants
>>46632469
So Burn is a combo deck?
>>46636918
>look! a spell can be countered!
>that spell is therefore bad!!!
>>46637117
>look! A decks only way out of a chalice on 0 gets countered, thereby making the deck literally do nothing! Therefor it must be a shot meme deck
>inb4 ingot chewers and shit
Your deck is bad against chalice on zero, yeah you can beat it, but it literally can't do anything about it
>>46637176
>yeah you can beat it, but it literally can't do anything about it
>The deck can beat it
>But it literally can't do anything about it
>But it can beat it
>But it can't beat it
Are you actually retarded? Did you even read what you wrote there?
Love UWR. What do you guys think?
>>46637095
Don't encourage them, they already think Infect is a combo deck.inb4 infect takes skill
>>46637220
>the deck is very bad against a particular card
>however you do have outs
>regardless, the fact of the matter remains that chalice on 0 is a very bad thing to see for a living end player, and there's nothing you can do about that, as some cards are just good against some decks
Okay, glad we got that cleared up for retard boy, now we can move on.
>>46637176
Literally ingot chewers and beast within. I got 8 spells to deal with chalice g2 and g3. Fagginator
>>46637589
>Calls me a retard
>So dumb he has to try several times to get his point across
>His point is literally some decks do badly against certain hate cards
>He thinks knowing this makes him smart
wew lad
Is this good enough as a cheap combo deck? Seems fun and possibly effective. Also, sideboard advice?
Website with explanation:
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/reconstructed/no-rares-all-modern-combo-2015-10-19
My very slightly altered version:
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/12-04-16-gavin-verheys-eldrazi-poultice/
>>46637697
>this is a bad card against it
>hurrrrr but I have an answer against it
>doesn't matter, it's still hard for it to beat
>b-b-but your dumb and I don't understand what you're saying
>>46637792
Not him, but to be fair, you did say
>yeah you can beat it, but it literally can't do anything about it
which is pretty fucking stupid.
>>46637792
>but none of those people are me either
>I'm just laughing at your inability to type properly>and laughing at how quickly you start raging and taking the bait
And let's repeat for anyone who isn't paying attention
>Chalice for 0 is so bad for Living end it "literally can't do anything about it"
>literally
>can't
>do
>anything
>about
>it
When you were responding to a post which clearly stated Living End can use the card it mainboards (gee I wonder why) Beast Within, to destroy any permanent, including Chalice of the Void, your be all and end all counter to Living End.
Next time, before you click that little submit button, check you're not being a retard to avoid this embarrassment in the future.
>>46637825
I meant it can't do anything about the fact that it's a good card against them. Yeah there's answers for every card, that doesn't mean it's not good against the deck. His original statement is pretty much equivalent to some one saying "dredge is bad against RIP" then someone else saying "what is nature's claim" its just stupid that because there's an answer to hate cards, you shold imply they don't phase the deck
>>46637889
Doesn't matter what you meant, what you said was that it can answer it, but simultaneously can do "literally" nothing about it. Now we're just laughing at you.
>>46637919
>Lmao he made a grammatical error and said something that was interpreted the wrong way hahaha hahaha
Yeah hilarious bro, good one
>>46637943
It was interpreted the right way, the message itself was wrong.Also, that's not a grammatical error, just retardation.
>>46637943
>interpreted the wrong way
Nah dude, there's no other interpretations that sentence could have other than what you said was completely and directly contradictory while you were busy insulting people for being stupid.
>>46637963
>not a grammatical error
>interpreted the right way
No it wasn't, had I said that in person and had been able to say it as intended you would have understood, I'm done arguing with a retard who doesn't even understand the definition of what a grammatical error is and only seeks to laugh at someone because they're too autistic to address any of the other points they've made outside the one instance of miscommunication. Bye
>>46638050
You had time to look at your post before you posted it, you shouldn't have missed that. In real life, you would have been much more autistic, because you literally have autism.
>>46638084
>>46638050
4chan is shit
>>46637994
"Your deck is bad against chalice on zero, yeah you can beat it, but it literally can't do anything about it"
This is the phrase in question, we're we speaking in person I would have been able to stress certain words and syllables as to make it known that it's not the chalice it can't do anything about, but rather the fact that it is a bad card. But you're retarded and you don't understand that.
>>46635637
I think I'll go and try to build a decent Seismic Swans List again.
Thanks for reminding me they exist.
>>46638448
They don't for a reason, maybe when bbe gets unbanned
What deck types are expensive to assemble, but still suck?
>>46638659
Fairies, literally tier 1 expensive yet shit
>>46631549
Lantern control. Every other response is wrong. "Wins" by stalling the game until you puke and concede.
8 man modern tourney on xmage if anyone wants to play
>>46638924
>modern tourney on xmage
Whats the point?
>>46639001
...fun?
>>46639013
>fun
This isn't allowed
What's your guys favorite modern card? Right here's my vote
>>46639435
lel gifts ungiven spiked hard
my foils doubled in price
#le star of david goys
>>46639435
>>46639593
Oh man, I knew picking up a set was a good idea.
>>46639377
>tumblr_inline_o53mquNhPh1
modern is dead and solved.
>>46639435
AT LEAST IT WOULD BE
>>46639435
>Main board 2 of these
>Never see them game one
>always side board them out because I am playing against Tron. Taking Turns, mono Green Eldrazi, or Burn.
>>46640009
Efficient AND has the decency to not show up when you don't need it. Such a good card
>tfw got to play Tom Ross in the tourny practice room on MTGO
>Legacy, Infect vs Infect
>tfw barely lost 1-2
>>46640157
Did you remember to bow to your sensei?
>>46639435
i've grown pretty fond of this guy
>>46640220
I would have dropped too much spaghetti if I'd said anything more than gg, dude.
>gifts ungiven buyout
Fucking kites man, Jesus christ. Glad I already had my playset, but that card has no Fucking business being 20 dollars when it sees play in one tier 3 deck. Speculators and kites need to burn.
What was that MtG fan comic where a splinter twin player chooses wrong card with ventrilion clique?
>>46638696
It only requires two colors, two sets of manlands, and a set of Bitterblossoms are only $100. VClique is down to $40, Cryptic is down to $25, and you don't even need a full set of Tiagos. <$1000 isn't "tier 1 expensive".
>>46640223
What a piece of shit desu senpai
>>46640386
First of all, yes that is expensive as other tier one decks, second of all, I was saying that it is the shittiest possible deck relative to how much money you spent on it.
>>46639435
>>46641176
Oh yeah bro, that's the good stuff
>>46632469
>Bringing game theory into a discussion about games
>talking about something with upwards of ~60 C 7 options first turn
>gets multiplicatively bigger each turn
>topkekI'd love to see a game tree though, seems like a good use of time
>>46631201
but I play AGGburnit's getting there, just need lava spikes and shard volley
>>46640450
there's something about that little spinny fireball that a number in a gray circle just can't provide
Tips for a turboturns-fag?
1 Quarantine Field
4 Planar Outburst
4 Part the Waterveil
2 Forest
3 Island
2 Plains
3 Sakura-Tribe Elder
4 Search for Tomorrow
4 Time Warp
3 Blue Sun's Zenith
3 Evolving Wilds
2 Tranquil Cove
4 Glacial Fortress
3 Sunpetal Grove
2 Seaside Citadel
4 Azorius Signet
4 Sylvan Scrying
3 Expedition Map
3 Negate
2 Vapor Snag
I've been experimenting with a homebrew that is a mono-blue Tempo deck.
I call it "Street Fighter" because one of the main win-cons is "Guile."
The idea is to T2 a Boomerang or Eye of Nowhere and do that every turn until you hit enough lands to drop a Vedalken Shackles or a Guile.
I'm running 12 permanent-bounce effects because I want to keep my opponent off of their land drops a much as possible.
I've beaten UB Mill, Eldrazi-Tron, and RG Werewolves with it. I'm having trouble with Infect, or at least I was until I put in Wipe Away. Not sure how Split Second is going to fare against them. I beat infect one time with it, but my opponent quickly learned to play around me.
Does anyone know of any neat cards that I may have forgotten about that would help?
>inb4 PLAY OWLING MINE, FAG.
I tried that, but now that Fevered Visions is out, half my FLGS is building it and I'm a shitty fucking hipster
>>46642419
Splash R, make it a guile blue moon deck.
>>46639903
Please never be.
What would happen if GBx decks got too good cause wizards bans everything? Would they ban something out of GBx?
>>46642946
They've done this before anon. Look at BBE.
>>46632588
Turbofog just needs like 70 cards main deck as a wincon. You win via them drawing out
>>46642419
why use Guile over frost titan?
and isn't redirect better than meddler in a monoU deck running snapcasters?
>>46639593
The fuck, yard hate rapes this deck hard, and is also an answer to thopter. Why the fuck would this spike.
>friend can't connect to cockatrice through port 4747
>try hosting a server with a port he has open
>its not working
>>46635162
inquisition of kozilek
lol
>>46637525
As a fellow Jeskai player it looks fine if you're trying to run midrange. I would add more giests and restos, but if you are going for delver then cut giest for something else. Just my two cents.
>>46633218
i thought about trying something like this for modern. Is sage owl better than sage of epityr?
The best backup plan i could think of was trying to use the top control with polymorph, maybe unblockable damage with thassa/tar pits?
>>46644149
>mfw I play Storm and get paired against this deck
I found a few ways to make this thing useful if anyone wanted to check it out.
http://www.mtgvault.com/felonary/decks/path-to-exile/
>tfw im making someone manually infinite combo on xmage
>>46645575
I'd like to practice on xmage, does it have AI?
>>46645172
I like it but I don't understand why Skill Borrower is any good. You don't really have any activated abilities of artifacts you want to copy.
>>46632101
Burn can get around life gain by playing Leyline of Punishment.
Infect has hard time dealing with Spellskite and Melira and has to play with those in mind always.
Basically if you want to play Magic, play Burn. If you don't want to play magic, play Infect.
>>46644149
Why Kiki-Jiki? You play many legendaries, which makes him worse. Also, you can't combo with him. By cutting him, you could drop some mountains for TecEdge, too. There has to be something better then him, like Aven Mindcensoror even that white Force Spike.
>>46646577
It combos with Resto Angel I think
I've been running the following Norin list (which has been winning a lot) and I figure I have to make room for pic related and Westvale Abbey. Probably cutting Ghost Quarters for the Abbey, but I'm unsure what to cut for the Lieutenant. Here's my list, suggestions?
2 Abzan Falconer
4 Ajani's Pridemate
1 Assemble the Legion
2 Boros Charm
3 Champion of the Parish
4 Genesis Chamber
3 Lightning Bolt
4 Mentor of the Meek
3 Norin the Wary
4 Soul Warden
4 Soul's Attendant
1 Spirit Bonds
2 Suture Priest
2 Rogue's Passage
2 Ghost Quarter
19 other lands
>>46646638
Silly me.
>>46632588
>bring Tutelage Turbofog to a FNM
>guys with playsets of Tarmos, Tasigurs and Geists of Saint Traft rage
>end 3-0
Don't hate on the 20$ deck, boys
>>46646650
Isn't Mentor of the Meek far too expensive to get going?
What kind of decks have you been playing this against?
>>46632834
I really hope they ban fucking double hexproof
>>46646829
It is hard to get it going but just drawing 1 card of it is great. Mentor triggers Norin, sisters, Champion, Chamber. And all creatures trigger Mentor. I could maybe cut 1 but really it's my only source of card advantage. It has been winning a lot of games for me.
Last 8 decks I've played (3-1 and 4-0) were Burn, Titanshift, Storm, Jeskai Control, Loam, BG Rock (didn't see any white or red cards), UR delver and RG land destruction. The only deck I lost to was Storm.
is storm dead boys?
im considering building a list right now
would it still be viable after the metashift towards more controllish lists?
Maybe this is because I'm a newer player, but I love eldrazi.
Eldrazi are so cute. I've drawn tons of my own joke "eldrazi" which are basically just octopuses with lots more tentacles and concerned facial expressions.
I played an eldrazi deck in modern for about 3 months before it got banned and I'm sad desu.
Also, I don't understand why people will sell a playset of [X] at a price where you can buy X at a lower cost if you bought individually. I thought offering deals on multiples of one card was so that you lose maybe 5-20 bucks but you move all of it out at once.
/blog
>>46631201
So I am trying to make use of Thopter Foundry given the unban. I am terrible at modern brewing, but what do people think of this deck? I just sort of slammed Thopter into a Tezzeret control deck, and added dark confidants after I noticed the average CMC of the deck was less then 1. Generally just ends up stalling till I can get down the thopter combo, and then using that for value. What is nice is both Tezz and the thopter combo are pure value generators, so I never really NEED all 3. Though Tezz does give the deck some really nice reach against decks with a strong defense.
Main Deck:
Artifacts
4 Talisman of Dominance
3 Thopter Foundry
3 Sword of the Meek
1 Chalice of the Void
1 Pithing Needle
2 Ensnaring Bridge
1 Nihil Spellbomb
1 Executioner's Capsule
Planeswalkers:
4 Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas
Creatures:
4 Dark Confidant
Sorceries:
4 Reshape
2 Damnation
4 Inquisition of Kozilek
Instants:
2 Smother
2 Spell Snare
1 Doom Blade
1 Go for the Throat
Lands:
4 Polluted Delta
1 Academy Ruins
3 Darksteel Citadel
2 Island
2 Swamp
2 Watery Grave
3 Darkslick Shores
3 Ghost Quarter
Sideboard:
SB: 1 Disfigure
SB: 1 Chalice of the Void
SB: 1 Ensnaring Bridge
SB: 1 Pithing Needle
SB: 1 Relic of Progenitus
SB: 1 Grafdigger's Cage
SB: 2 Hurkyl's Recall
SB: 2 Engineered Explosives
SB: 1 Hangarback Walker
SB: 2 Negate
SB: 2 Dragon's Claw
>>46631395
Coco Naya Zoo sounds like a delicious tropical drink with an umbrella on top.
>>46648214
Seems decent, but I'm not sure about reshape. I'd replace that with 4 thirst for knowledge. Your kill spells are not bad, but there are more optimal ones like dismember. Overall pretty decent list. Have fun you tested the deck? How are the confidants? Have you considered Liliana?
>>46646805
Could I see your decklist? I can't really afford to spend $1000 on a deck.
>Sigarda in play, humans I control have hexproof
>Mindslaver my opponent
>mfw I can't target him with his own bolt
>>46648927
>mfw I can't target him with his own bolt
Why not?
>>46649054
He's a human I control, so he has hexproof.
>>46649128
But how does that stop himself from bolting himself? If I have hexproof, I can still bolt myself.
>>46631201
UW control
>4 of ancestral visions
>4 of thing in the ice
HNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGHHHH
>>46649145
he controls the bolt, but he can't be the target of spells or abilities my opponent (him) controls
>>46648927
smart.
>>46637525
Honestly boros charm is pretty bad all things considered maybe you want electrolyze or pia and kiran or spellskites honestly the card is just kinda meh
>>46649156
Cramming your deck full of bad topdecks is a great way to lose games.
>>46648927
Huehuehuehuehue
>>46649165
That's not how hexproof works. A player with hexproof can't be the target of spells or abilities that that player's opponents control. It doesn't matter where the hexproof is coming from.
>>46649205
thing in the ice is an excellent card to run in place of wall of omens and in all honesty 2X ancestral visions is more realistic.
>>46642362
Die
>>46644149
Brimaz is bad, find something else anything else
>>46639435
LotV
>>46647277
>>46647277
I played Storm during Eldrazi Winter and found it pretty good. It was mediocre vs Eldrazi, but with Burn and Infect out of the format because of Eldrazi, most of Storm's natural predators were dead. I think Storm gets a lot better if the blue decks we see pop up are more Colonnade UWx control decks rather than tempoish Delver and Tasigur decks. Storm is fine vs Counterspells and Discard, but backed up by a clock, that can fuck your shit up. It's a cheap deck that a lot of decks have no real plan for outside of racing. I bought it back in February and don't regret it at all.
>>46648214
If you're not going to run more Lili and discard the drop the bridges. And what are you doing with shape anew? Seems bad.
>>46648214
If you're not going to run more Lili and discard the drop the bridges. And what are you doing with shape anew? Seems bad.
>>46648758
Reshape is good because it can get any of my silver bullets or combo pieces. Really need a bridge? Reshape for 5. Ancetral recall about to time out? Reshape for 2 to get a chalice. Tron just play Kharn? Reshape for 3 to get a needle. On top of always being able to reshape for 4 to get a combo piece.
I don't really want to run dismember, as I am generally relying on face tanking a lot of attacks until I can set up thopter or draw a damnation. The 4 to the face really hurts, and if you pay any of the cost it seems like a GftT or Doomblade is better. Also it makes dark confidant worse, which is already a minor problem.
I have been playing the deck on Cockatrice a bit, as that is really the only place I intend to play it much at all. The confidants are really good a lot of the time. I mean, there is a non zero chance of flipping a tezz and losing a lot of life, but that and damnation are the only really bad flips. It is amazing in the late game with academy ruins. You can ensure you only take like 0-2 from the trigger, and it hurts less to recur silver bullets in a top deck race. I have been trying to think if I can cut a land to run another ruins, or even to put it in the sideboard.
Lilly... a, she is higher on the curve then I would really like, and is sorcery speed removal. Also, she again makes Confidant worse, which is a major issue. He is my main card advantage engine, but only works if getting bolted in the face by him is a rare occurrence. I can see she would probably still be good, but I don't know what to cut for her.
>>46650657
Bridge consistently saves my life in this deck. Also, it sets up amazing late game plans of holding one card on my turn, swinging in with thopters, playing the card, rinse and repeat for a win.
>>46650829
I don't see you emptying out your hand quick enough in any of the matches where it's going to win.
>>46650449
Too difficult to use desu
>>46650805
So you wanna use bridge but want lots of cards in hand from Bob?
Sounds like you've no idea what you're doing
>>46650961
Pretty much what I was suggesting.
