One of you posted this a while ago and I liked it so I built it.
It's mostly stuff I had laying around so I'm sure it could be a lot better (Fog).
Please help as I am incapable of original thought.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/casual-villainy/
>>46617719
I think it's janky and fun enough
Do any of you guys know what can I do with a playset of Orbs of Dreams?
Pic plus act of treason has won me five games in my casual group since last week. Pic plus nissa's renewal has kept me alive and mana flooded three games. Pic plus grip of desolation has gotten me my deck thrown across the room.
>>46617865
>Act of treason
Ouch
>Renewal
Damn
>Grip of desolation
Absolutely barbaric
My play group has a weird rule. You cannot buy singles except for mythic rares. Everything else has to be from packs. What do?
>>46617774
Meekstone, Misstep, and Sunblast Angel would piss people off.
>>46618008
Meekstone sounds great! Is there any way to pump my opponent's creatures power?
>>46618139
Support (X) like lead by example is good. Put it on panopticon mirror anon posted above and you'll make all his creatures completely immobile.
>>46617719
Who wins in a 60 Chancellor of the Dross mirror?
What's the best card to be an annoying little red shit with? I don't even care if it's from a joke set.
>>46618502
Obliterate
>>46618502
War's toll makes your opponent choose between main phase or your turn. Cool!
>>46617944
build a deck out of mythic rares?
>>46617865
Well now I need a bunch of these for my commander decks
>>46618624
For added funzies, add Manabarbs to the mix
>>46618716
For double funzies add pic.
>>46618699
It's banned in EDH, and for exactly this reason lol
>>46618737
Fuck.
>>46618502
Works best if built around, but it's fun to troll the table with it either way.
There's some other thing that scrambles the entire boardstate and pisses everyone off just because it takes so long to resolve, but i forget the name.
>>46618799
Add that in plus curse of echoes.
>>46618742
>Kitchen table As Fuck edition
also
>leaving your house
>ban lists
In all seriousness thanks for the heads up.
>>46618886
Yeah, really if other people let you run it then it doesn't matter and more power to you for having a truly kitchen-table-as-fuck group, but I figured a heads up would be nice.
(I'm still pouring one out for my pic related. We don't play at a store or anything, but the group adheres to the ban list to the bitter end.)
>>46618502
Fun little dude that pisses everyone off if they don't have removal on hand. Hating the snipe was a meme at my table for a while.
>>46618959
So, if I'm reading this right, that means in a 4-way game you'll destroy 3 permanents from each player and slap 9 forests on the field.
>>46619020
Okay;
>1) Mah Niggah.
>2) D'at filename.
My job here is done.
>>46619030
3 n' 3, actually.
>>46618959
blows up three things gets three forest
my friend bought like 20 when they were a dollar each and then they got banned in edh
>>46619073
1 condition
2 colors
3 cards
I like this
>>46619170
Okay, what 'bout this? (Read the filename.)
>>46618959
My play group is my wife...and sometimes my brother and his wife. We play what I build. So...
Whenever Griselbrand hits the table I'm the only one who knows my dirty little secret.I always pick the weakest deck
>>46617719
Anon, I run a similar sort of deck. I would go for 8 post with the basic lands being forests. Use mulldrifter and prophetic prism for draw, and run some big guys like ulamog's crusher and the big theros statue man in case villainous wealth fails
reap and sow is amazing in the deck
axebane guardian shenanigans are great too, and give me an excuse to call the deck Trump.dck (walls and wealth)
>>46619433
*with the basics being forests and islands
>>46618206
well whoever decides to go first has priority, so I would assume the second player would win as their triggers would go on the stack second?
Anyone have suggestions for an artifact control deck that uses thopter foundry and two of the UB Tezzys?
>>46619285
Now this is jank
>>46621745
Silly anon, foundry is a combo card, not control.
>>46621763
Yeah it's too bad combo is fucking boring to me because Thopter Foundry is lots of fun.
>>46621854
>not having fun playing combo
I feel really bad for you anon.
I'm primarily an aggro player (Burn, stompy andBW Warriors) and I get all warm and fuzzy inside when I manage to pull off some crazy bullshit combo
>>46621954
kek. I don't find playing aggro all that fun either. I had a BW Exalted deck, an elf deck, and a human deck. None of them have survived. I need a mix of aggro and control to not be bored usually. Stax is p fun though.
>>46622096
>I need a mix of aggro and control to not be bored usually
Play jund
So I bought 45 Shadow over Innistrad boosters and now I'm wondering if I maybe overdid it.
>>46622169
I'm not looking for new deck ideas though, just good things to stick in the one I'm working on.
>>46617944
>you can not buy cards except the most expensive cards
>>46617944
>You can only do this inane thing with your money that you made
You have more patience for faggots than I do, anon. I'd tell them to fuck off in a hearbeat. But yeah what >>46618692 said just to be a cheeky cunt.
>>46618502
It's like this card was made for you.
>>46617719
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>>46622447
>casual
>netdecking
You should all be gassed.
Casual is where you should be able to make your own deck. Deckbuilding is 99% of the skill and fun in Magic, but you need to invest a lot of time to invent decks that are actually viable at the highest level. This is why casual exists, so players can go through the whole creative process, but not sink hundreds of hours into one game.
I KNOW what you are going to say:
>"B-but f-f-Fun! is subjective."
Even if you were some freak (I know you aren't. You just have an obsession and self control issues) that didn't enjoy building your own deck, you would still be fucking the other people in your group who aren't as autistic because now you have an edge on them and they will either need to put way more time into buying cards and in the lab building a deck or they will need to succumb to your cancer and troll reddit and 4chan for le ebin strats and le ebin budget decks and le ebin tips and le ebin combos while having less fun.
>>46622816
>casual
>sifting through thousands of cards
It's fucking casual. Are you so autistic that you need to know about every damn card that you can use to optimize your "kitchen table" deck with retarded annoying combos before you sit down and play some "casual" games with buddies?
>>46622436
post rares
>>46617865
That would be really good with the suspend cards like Living End
>>46618502
Yet Another AEther Vortex is the jokiest of joke cards, but can enable hilarity.
>>46622787
>Deckbuilding is 99% of the skill and fun in Magic, but you need to invest a lot of time to invent decks that are actually viable at the highest level.
Factually False. Being able to eke out percentage points from losing games is 99% of the skill and fun in magic. The deck you play is almost irrelevant as long as it's good.
Casual shitbrews coming through
>TWENTY SERRA LIONS
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/twenty-21-w-creatures/
>Treasure Hunt + Countryside Crusher + Centaur Vinecrasher.dec
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/ceta-hunt/
>RW infinite combos
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/sunny-t/
>BG Elf Tribal
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/13-02-16-elf-tribal/
>Enduring Renewal shenanigans
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/enduring-injury/
>Mono-W enchantments. For when you want to scoop to enchantment hate.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/04-04-16-enchantments/
>>46623065
>enduring renewal storm
I love it
What comfy kitchen table rules do you use?
1. Have fun.
2. Use the basic rules of each format we decide to play with, and generally stick to Modern and Standard cards.
3. No literal no-fun bullshit cards that everyone hates to play with, unless we decide to have everyone play with ridonkulous cards.
The fewer the rules, the better. I think everyone has a better time when we don't have 20,000 rules that nobody wants to listen to.get comfy
>>46623213
1. Bad hand? Draw 7!
2. Playing with everything but Unglued and Unhinged.
3. Observe bans and restrictions (no decks with two Sol Rings, for instance).
>>46623213
Expanding on rule 1, we typically use "extended" cards.
The last 4 blocks is our general trend, though it isn't set in stone.
>>46617865
Just time warp
>>46622787
half of what people are reccing is generally nonviable jank that can be fun in a casual setting, calm your tits
r8 deck
>Odric x1
>Hanweir Militia Captain x1
>Nahiri's Machinations x1
>Silverstrike x1 (replacing with Nahiri soon)
>Thraben Inspector x2
>Chaplain's Blessing x4
>Reaper of flight moonsilver x2
>Inspiring captain x2
>Avacynian missionaries x2
>Survive the night x4
>Moorland drifter x3
>Expose evil x3
>Tamiyo's journal x1
>Neglected heirloom x1
>Haunted cloak x2
>True faith censer x4
>Village messenger x2
>Scourge wolf x2
>Mad prophet x2
>Evolving wilds x2
>Higher plains to mountains ratio for lands
Sideboard
>Hope against hope x1
>Humble the brute x2
>Avacyn's judgement x1
>Puncturing light x2
>Angel of deliverance x1
>Gryff's boon x2
>Devil's playground x2
>Voldaren duelist x4
>>46622787
Please do us all a favour and bathe before coming to FNM, you fat sweaty butthurt neckbeard.
>>46621763
Bullshit. Running Thopter+Sword in a control shell as a finisher is perfectly viable.
>>46617774
root maze, exhaustion, blind obedience, storage matrix, gigadrowse
This is the deck I use for kitchen table. I originally had actual play sets of cards but it was still too consistent and I had to scale it back even more
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/casual-af-naya/
>>46617719
villanous post, i would call that deck.
>>46618799
It's called Scrambleverse.
>>46618502
Thief's Auction and Goblin Game.
>>46618502
You can make the game a complete nightmare with only another card or two.
>>46617719
>Casual MTG
You mean FNM?
>>46622787
>that didn't enjoy building your own deck
A lot of people don't. To many people deckbuilding is simply a hurdle that they must get through before they can play the game. There are also many people who find it more fun to tune an already existing deck than to build one from scratch.
>>46617944
Enjoy playing with a fucked mana Base
>>46622787
The best fun I had with magic was when my dad and I made shitty decks out of a bunch of 8th edition commons. He played blue and lots of flying creatures, while I played green. Neither of our decks were particularly good or strong. It was just fun to throw in cards I thought looked cool, like Blanchwood Armor.
You can have fun at any level of the game. Attempting to dictate how other people have fun means you're a colossal fucking faggot and should go kill yourself.
>>46626483
>structured formats are casual right guys?
You're an idiot.
>>46622787
So in order to have a casual game you're not even allowed to talk about what cards you're running?
>>46626483
Do you not have any friends? Or is this a shitty joke?
>>46622787
>using a combo you found online is now netdecking
>>46628795
Using cards that exist is netdecking didn't you know?
>>46617944
>>46622883
>Tripping hazard power cable in the background
It's a trap
Pic related is my favorite casual card. It pairs especially well with wild research.
![latest[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/w9wxJ22.jpg "latest[1].jpg")
>>46617719
I just got a deck building kit.
Pic very related.
>>46628864
What's a deck building kit?
>>46628864
That's a great place to start.
Do you know anyone who plays?
If not there's plenty of stuff on YouTube.
>>46628964
Deckbuilders tool kit. You can get them at big box stores. They come with like 4 packs and a semi randomized set of cards. Decent deal for around $25
>>46628964
big box of cards including a land pack and a bunch of commons/uncommons from standard at the time of its production. and some boosters, I think. They're pretty great if you have no card collection at all. I think they were tied to the core sets though(?) so they might not still be making them.
>>46629093
Theyre 17.99 at card kingdom if I recall.
Should I get a bulk pack of standard legal rares for $20? I dont have many yet and I want to expand my collection.
>>46630311
No, it's just someone's trash rares.
>>46619073
What is this durdling nonsense of a combo?
Besides buffing up Glaze Fiend, Arcbound Crusher and pic related what's the point?
>>46631251
I think it makes infinite colorless mana?
>>46631301
nope, it does absolutely nothing on its own
sol ring only makes enough mana to keep activating the resonator
>Turn 1 opponent casts Faithless Looting, pay no attention to his discard
>turn 2 Generator Servant, that's cute
>turn 3 Servant out Alesha.
>Attack. Reanimate Living Lore from his bin. Exile Time Stretch under it.
>ohshit.jpg
>Chump his Lore. He sacs it on damage to cast Time Stretch.
>Repeat until I'm dead.
>>46631251
Infinite colorless mana, infinite blink, and infinite ETB/LTB abilities. Gotta expand your mind bruh.
>>46631301
For that you'd need Basalt Monolith, Grim Monolith or pic related.
>>46623753
How much trouble do Treasure Cruise and Dig Through Time cause in that extended meta?
>>46631391
>infinite colorless mana
That combo does not produce an net gain of mana.
>>46631251
literally any enters the battlefield effects of any other permanents at all.
>>46631419
the combo only generates enough momentum to continue the loop
with the picture, you can only afford to keep looping the resonator and sol ring
anything else breaks the loop
>>46631503
brago's ability exiles and returns any number of permanents with each iteration.
>>46631581
i may be retarded i thought it was two
>>46630899
>not liking trash rares
Infinite reflections is my current kitchen table favorite since two guys are always playing big meatie green. My buw weenie deck suddenly becomes a giant pile of crazy shit.
>>46617719
Oh goody, a place where I can talk about 60 card casual multiplayer decks!
I built this token deck out of some cards I had and a handful cheap ones I ordered after Cryptolith Rite was spoiled. However I suck at building decks, so if anyone is smarter about token decks than I am, I'd appreciate the help.
> http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/casual-abzan-tokens/
The plan is to first make a bunch of tokens with Raise the Alarm, Lingering Souls and Secure the Wastes, then pump them up with Intangible Virtue, sac them for card draw, or of course use them for mana with Cryptolith Rite. That can be pumped into a mana sink like Custodi Soulbinders to make more tokens, Tasigur to draw some cards, Secure the Wastes to make even more tokens, Westvale Abbey to get a big demon, or maybe see what happens when I play The Great Aurora with a bunch of tokens out. Many cards are singletons to just try them out as fun toys, but the general shell is itself is I hope enough 4ofs. (Cryptolith Rite is a tricky one because I really really like having it, but drawing a second one is spectacularly useless).
Are the ratios of token producers to payoffs to utility cards okay? Any cards that I should definitely play more of than I do now?
>>46622436
Not if you're gonna draft them, cause the Limited in this set is actually pretty fun.
>>46631909
I like them, but people keep/sell the fun ones.I also have like 4 MTG threads open and I thought I was in the standard one.
>>46632338
Demonic or diabolic tutor would be helpful
>>46617719
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/odrics-soup-kitchen/
Something I brewed earlier
ignore the manabase, it'll obviously going to be upgrade
>>46632338
>Cryptolith Rite is a tricky one because I really really like having it, but drawing a second one is spectacularly useless
Yeah, I'm building Cryptolith Rite Abzan Combo for standard right now. Goldfishing is telling me 4 might be too many, but it might be good to have in case of enchantment removal/discard.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/12-04-16-garbage/
Theme of my deck is "Being a huge asshole"
What other cards should I add?
>>46636082
Not the commander thread but, uughh that deck looks obnoxious.
>>46636223
I was kind of unsure which thread to put it in, since it's 100% designed for casual play and falls apart when faced against a serious deck.
DAT feel when your casual play group is Legacy power level. When I play with other people I have to dumb down my decks
>>46637720
Good for you money bags
>>46636082
Not an asshole suggestion, but you look like you could use some more card draw. Also you've got cancel in there but no classic counterspell.
I think mind control effects can be kinda assholish, if your victim has no sac outlet and removing enchantments is difficult. Control Magic and stuff like that.
>>46623213
Once per game you can reveal your hand, shuffle your deck and draw 1 less card
>>46631403
Read rule 2.
We use it once in a while, but shit like Jace the mind sculptor doesn't get used. Treasure cruise isn't an enormous problem.
>>46625348
You telling me your play group is so turbo casual you can't run more than 2x of any card that isn't a basic land? The fuck?
>>46639421
Not sure if bait....
That's an EDH deck
>>46639560
How is that an EDH deck? Did you reply to the wrong post or something?
>>46617719
You faggots need to jank harder.
>>46639666
Wow I'm dumb. Brb gonna kill myself
>>46639971
good job, Satan.
>>46629059
I know a few people, they seemed to suggest a red/blue deck.
>>46622787
do you need a hug or something?
Was looking through some of my old cards today and found two copies of pic. How can I make a X/R deck around this guy?
>>46631251
Those are the three pieces required to make the combo function, but because Brago lets you flicker any number of permanents, you can add pieces to make the combo do something. Anything with ETB triggers, mana rocks, or even cards like Altar of the Brood turn the combo into a game-ender.
>>46639421
Well my meta is full of newer players using glorified draft decks and people who never got past the mentality that net decking or buying singles is bad.
When the list was more condensed it won against them all the time and frustrated them because they felt like I was winning because I spent more money. So I dumbed it down a lot and still win most of the time.
I have real decks for the few serious players that come around every now and then
I love this card so much for casual stuff
>>46617774
>>46624930 this +
damping matrix
trinisphere
fatespiner
>>46641374
fling him
I'm a new player looking to take the plunge into starting MtG.
Just struggling to choose a colour. I'm down to either white, black or red.
Which of those is most beginner friendly?
>>46649984
Red by far
>>46649984
Green and white are easiest to build
Red and blue have the skill ceiling. The better you understand the game the more you can do with them
Black is greatness at any cost. But better supplemented by other colors.
>>46650662
>>46650845
I don't tend to enjoy playing defensively, I'd rather just do all-out attack, which is best supported by red, from what I read?
>>46650872
Yes, all-out attack with no strategy tends to work best with green and/or red.
>>46650872
Green/red or black/red might be the best fits for you. Green gives you bigger dudes and more mana, black gives you card draw and more removal.
>>46651838
I was warned off starting with mixed colour deck, I was told to stick strictly with one colour to begin with.
>>46651867
Nah, mixed is fine as long as you don't fuck up your mana base. GR sounds perfect for you.
>>46651885
I think I'm gonna go for straight red to begin with. I can always branch into GR or BR later.
Plus goblins are cool.
>>46651925
I would have said straight green, but yeah, mono-red goblins is fun as fuck. Enjoy your token swarms.
>>46651925
Dragon fodder, krenkos command, krenkos mob boss, young pryromance.
>>46652111
>>46651972
Goblin swarm for a beginner is actually a great idea too.
Gets them over caring about 1/1 creatures, because goblins will die en masse.
New-ish player here: What are the must-have cards for a zombie swarm deck?
>>46653666
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/bu-zombie-hunt/
I'm sure you're working with cards you have but this is the best way to make a ton of zombies.
>>46655038
looks kinda cool but no removal, and is that enough card draw?
>>46652307
Yeah. Same thing with eldrazi scions. Friend played boiling earth and killed 11 of my scions in one turn.
>>46655260
Check the description but I think the goal is to mulligan until you have the 2? cards you need, that should set you up to turn most of the lands in your deck into 2/2 zombies on turn 2. (Your deck is almost all lands)
>>46655260
Treasure hunt for the one zombie infestation in the deck. Most of the rest of the cards are lands. Play zombie infestation. turn all the lands you just picked up with treasure hunt into zombies. Reliquary tower is very important.
>>46655038
This is the jankiest fucking thing I've ever seen and I love it.
>>46617719
This is my Standard casual deck. Its a brew I'm pretty proud about because it can do quite a bit of cool stuff:
Oaths.dec
Creatures: 11
>Altered Ego x3
>Whirler Rogue x4
>Hangarback Walker x4
Planeswalkers: 8
>Nissa, Voice of Zendikar x3
>Sarkhan Unbroken x2
>Gideon, Ally of Zendikar x3
Other spells: 18
>Cryptolith Rite x3
>Oath of Nissa x4
>Oath of Gideon x3
>Oath of Jace x2
>Starfield of Nyx x2
>Sigil of the Empty Throne x2
>Quarantine Field x2
Lands: 24
>Port Town x4
>Fortified Town x4
>Plains x4
>Island x3
>Forest x5
(1/2)
>>46656191
>casual deck.
>Has 8 planeswalkers
>Has 4 hangerback walkers
>Basically every card is a $5 rare or mythic
>CASUAL
>>46656191
You say this is a casual deck, yet everything besides whirler rogue (an uncommon) and basic lands are rares/mythics, and 8 planeswalkers. I'm not sorry but you can't say that deck is in any way casual when it's easily worth hundreds of dollars and would require opening thousands of packs.
>>46656191
>>46656191
Just because you have 61 cards doesn't mean it's casual. Just take out a copy of cryptolith rite.
>>46655372
>response: sac them all
>proceed to scare your friend by leafing through your hand, then just cast whatever you can
>>46656226
>>46656357
>>46656403
>>46656697
You all do realize that casual is a broad spectrum, not a specific point. Casual means different things to different people. There's no set definition for it. This raises another question, though. What do you consider casual? What's the line that separates casual from competitive?
>>46656839
Mostly price tag and purpose. If your deck is all rares/mythics besides basic lands and 1 powerful uncommon creature it's generally not considered casual. Now if he instead had a jank deck with a bunch of commons/uncommons with a play set of (for example) sylvan advocate and a planeswalker I'd still consider that casual. Also if you don't buy singles for the deck it's probably casual, unless you bought a booster box or two for the set.
>>46618799
I actually ran this card in standard, with this combo. It did a lot better than you'd expect with a few alternate win cons in the deck.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/i-guess-i-won/
>>46656191
Alright, so the deck creates artifact tokens with creatures like Hangarback Walker and Whirler Rogue, Nissa, Gideon and Sarkhan (which you can cast with Oath of Nissa and/or Cryptolith Rite), which you can buff with both Gideon and Nissa.
Oath of Jace is pure value with so many Planeswalkers and is decent draw, Nissa's makes Sarkhan viable and lets you dig through your deck for Planeswalkers/creatures and Gideon's is great for tokens and to do cool stuff like letting Gideon survive ultimating the turn he comes in and letting Nissa and Sarkhan -2 twice in a row. Sigil of the Empty Throne is there to really exploit the Oath spells, netting you even more tokens to domimate the board.
With Cryptolith rite and so many tokens you can pump out huge Hangarback Walkers, Altered Egos or wipe the enemy's board with Quarantine Field.
Starfield of Nix is a natural fit in a deck with so many enchantments and allows you to recur an Oath for free (whichever you need, but specially Gideon's) and get mad value out of Sigil. It also transforms your enchantments into creatures, so you get double the value for stupidly powerful Quarantine Field / Hangarback / Altered Ego. Cryptolith rite also helps casting all these costly spells like Sigil or Starfield much sooner.
(2/3)
>>46639935
>playing around your own Armageddon
>>46656839
I know casual is a vague term but man, come on. It's definitely not an expensive standard deck.
>>46657382
Also there's a cool trick you can do with Quarantine Field and Altered Ego. Casting the Quarantine for WW you can put it on the board T2 without exiling no creatures, then when Starfield of Nix comes into play and Quarantine Field becomes a creature, you can copy it with altered Ego, utilizing Cryptolith for extra mana.
Then, since it gains the ability to enter wit X Isolation Counters and Altered Ego has its own X value not only will it enter the battlefield with X +1/+1 counters, but also will exile X non-land permanents upon doing so. It makes for a very cool wincon.
Altered Ego is also good at generating tokens with what being able to cast it as a copy of Whirler Rogue or Myth Realized, which I'm thinking about including.
>>46656697
Would it be casual with +3 Myth Realized?, because then I'm doing that.
>>46656226
>>46656357
>>46656839
>>46657151
No, but really, its a casual deck not because of the rarities or card prices, but because it tries to be too many things at a time. A token deck, a Planeswalker deck, an enchantment deck and even a ramp deck. Those sorts of decks that try to be so many thing often end up being nothing. That's why, unless somehow it puts out results at FNM, I consider this a casual deck.
Plus, whenever did casual begin meaning bad?, I created this deck to test out synergies I found interesting, the strongest I could find. The fact the cards happen to be mythic/rare is mere coincidence.
Plus, just look at it. It couldn't be jankier. My play group called it an unholy Skaab and now they call me the Stitcher.
>>46657836
>Then, since it gains the ability to enter wit X Isolation Counters and Altered Ego has its own X value not only will it enter the battlefield with X +1/+1 counters, but also will exile X non-land permanents upon doing so.
That doesn't work. They modified the rule because of Altered Ego.
>107.3h Normally, all instances of X on an object have the same value at any given time. If an object gains an ability, the value of X within that ability is the value defined by that ability, or 0 if that ability doesn’t define a value of X.
>>46617944
buy them anyways, tell the autists you pulled/traded for them
>>46658029
Can you simplify what the rule means?
To think they'd make that sort of thing just because of Altered Ego.
>>46658090
From the SOI update bulletin:
This is the rule that tells you that all instances of X on a card are the same value. While that's normally true, now that we have a Clone variant with X in its mana cost (Altered Ego), we have a solid reason to change it. Now, with respect to gained abilities, Xs are evaluated in context. If an object gains an ability that refers to X, it refers to the appropriate one. An Altered Ego cast with X equal to five copying a Hangarback Walker will enter with five +1/+1 counters. The X in Hangarback Walker's own ability will be 0.
Currently running an auratog \ rancor loop... With things like phalanx leader and ajani's chosen gets fun. Also mayels aria & sage of hours ftw. The ordeal of nylea\heliod come in handy with nomad mystic, ten life evary turn for 1 white mana.
>>46658315
Beautiful.
>>46656191
See
>>46658315
For how to into casual
>>46658127
Well, how about switching it with Hanweir Militia Captain?, It gets pretty big and its a token generator.
Any ideas of good token gemerators?, specially early game ones?
>>46658478
>Good synergies aren't allowed in casual play unless the cards involved are un/commons
Wow I thought casual players liked having fun.
>>46658737
You're deck lacks exploration. There's no breaking the game by combining the old with the new. There's no middle finger to power creep. There's no since of a player who's found something no one has thought of. All and all you're missing the kitchen table.
>>46658737
It's a funny combo
>>46658959
>No combining old and new
Well, excuse me if I want to have my casual decks to be playable in Standard, the one format casual decks stand a chance in.
>There's no middlefinger to the powercreep
Bullshit. That list is very far from any netdecked, cookie cutter list even for Standard, its just a bunch of cards that sort of do work well together.
>There's no player who's found something no one has thought of.
I brewed this from a scratch so there kind of is. Me.
>All and all you're missing the kitchen table.
That's like, your opinion.
>>46659052
No, its a good, interesting combo. That's why its worth building around.
What I'm saying that if a combo is cool and fun, its worth building around regardless of the rarity of the cards you need for it.
What I'm saying is that good combos c
Here's my favorite deck right now, it feels powerful and complex enough to stay interesting over multiple games while still being low power enough for casual groups. The best lines are Infestation pitch Gravecrawlers and cast them from the Gy with Burning Vengeance or Secrets out, draw cards and make more zombies or burn them out. Additionally Going Infernal Plunge sac Gravecrawler cast Burning Vengeance recast Gravecrawler for 2 dmg plus any other enchants I have out is fun.
>>46623065
I love how this is just a 12 card combo wincondition addable to essentially any red/green/white deck
>>46617719
Oh hey. I was the guy posted this decklist a while ago. This is what I play for Wealthpost. Most of the stuff on this list is dirt cheap
4x Villainous wealth
4x Crop Rotation
4x Ponder
4x Preordain
4x Chromatic Star
4x Chromatic Sphere
4x Expedition Map
3x Explore
3x Compulsive Research
4x Cloudpost
4x Glimmerpost
4x Thespian Stage
4x Opulent Palace
3x City of Brass
2x Blighted Woodlands
2x Island
1x Forest
1x Swamp
>>46657213
I dont understand the combo here.
>>46662786
Hope to get "Enter the infinite" with "Possibility storm". Put "Borborygmos" back as your only card in your library, cheat it on the terrain with the Storm, then sacrifice all the terrain in your hand to kill your opponent.
>>46664816
So
>play Possibility Storm
>play a sorcery to hopefully get Enter the Infinite
>draw your library
>put mad Bobo in library
>then, play a creature
>Storm into Bobo
There has got to be a better way to fill your hand with lethal amounts of lands than a five-card combo.
>>46623783
I personally go for Time Reversal just to force everyone to reshuffle loads. Plus I don't own Time Warp.
>>46631391
No, because Resonator costs 2 and Sol Ring generates 2.
Took the plunge. Bought my first Deckbuilder's Toolkit.
May god have mercy on my soul.
Friend gave me a deck about 6 months ago when I got into magic. He used to be really competitive and drive around to different states to play but quit and sold most of his money cards. He said he put this together out of leftovers and "filler" but it would be okay for casual play
1x sword of vengeance
1x sword of body and mind
1x remand
1x electrolyze
1x izzet charm
1x goblin dark-dwellers (I added this)
1x ponder
1x echoing truth
1x will of the Naga
1x traumatic visions
2x act of treason
2x dungeon Geists
2x spell snare
3x serum visions
3x thought scour (these seem useless)
4x lightning bolt
4x vapor snag
4x mana leak
4x delver of secrets
10x island
5x mountain
4x swiftwater cliffs
1x shivan reef
1x terramorphic expanse
1x mana confluence
The thought scours and spell snares seem weak and I feel like I need a few more creatures some games. How would you go about upgrading this?
>>46618502
I really don't know why but my playgroup hates me for playing this guy
>>46662637
Boom! Thespian Stage. Thanks man.
Why is chromatic star 4x more expensive than chromatic sphere? Looks like they share legality.
>>46632338
depending on how much you're willing to pay I'd play 4 secure the wastes because of all the mana you get through cryptolith rite.
also, Nissa, voice of zendikar could be a nice addition for even more tokens and a board wide buff for all your tokens.
Right now she's still fairly cheap for a planeswalker.
>>46672659
Take out your goblin and the thought scours. Add 4 kiln fiends. That alone will help make this more viable. The goal being to pump the fiend or flip the delver. Then look into free spells like gitaxian probe, mutagenic growth, apostles blessing. You don't need mana to cast them and they'll pump you fiend and delver
>>46673699
My play group hates battle rattle shaman, especially since I have a copy of splinter twins in my R/G deck.
I would expect it to be the other way around. star is a "fixed" version that makes the two slightly different functionally. you can't respond to the card draw from the sphere, but the star lets you draw a card even if you sacrifice it to an effect other than its own. maybe the recent unbanning of thopter foundry is to blame? it seems unlikely but I can't think of anything else
>>46672659
>>46673987
Here's my Delver Kiln deck. It is absolutely not casual. But it's cheap and wins turn on 3 roughly 80% of the time
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/kiln-delver-3/.
>>46674072
meant to reply to
>>46673866
I'm playing a zombie deck and want to add some creature-killer card but I don't know which one to take.
Terror seems the best but my deck rely on Fear so I need to be able to kill black/artifact creatures.
>>46674264
That's what I'm looking for.
The problem is I stopped playing right after kamigawa so I don't have that. And because I just casually play it I don't really want to buy new cards
How is Cockatrice? I want to play casual but I don't have any IRL friends
http://www.mtgfanatic.com/decks/viewdeck.aspx?id=175548&page=1&pagesize=25
>>46674338
Doom blade is good too
>>46672659
>all those value cards
I hope you have sleeves on that.
>>46674232
Doom blade / victim of night
>>46675291
I did this and kept track with three D10's. The opponent quit after I hit 101.
Why is the new Avacyn so expensive. She's not even that good.
>>46675708
He had ultrapro sleeves on it when he gave it to me. They're kind of dirty now and I probably need to get new ones
>>46676949
Dirty sleeves doesn't really matter if the cards are safe and clean.Just found some stuck dirt or similar on my Horizon Canapy, what should I do?
>>46618502
I once had a deck built around this and precursor golem, but this new babe here makes it oh so much better
>>46676824
Cant tell... if youre serious or not
I'm building a super-casual cubeincluding a few Unhinged cardsfor drafting, so far I have around 500 cards picked out. I was thinking I would sleeve 50 of each basic, does that sound good? There will be something like 45 non-basics in the cube, and the cube will probably be around 700-750 cards total.
>>46678657
I have a 360 card cube, so enough for an 8 person draft. I have maybe 12 non basics in it. ( city of brass, nykthos, exotic orchard etc) I've sleeved 40 of each basic.
>tfw tweaking it for more than 3 years.
>tfw $1,850 worth of cards
>tfw no time or friends to draft with
>>46678457
not him
please explain why it is good
>>46680685
Not who you asked but: a vigilant 4/4 flyer for 5 is very playable . One that give indestructible for the turn is good. One that bolts both your opponent and their creatures while becoming a 6/5 is very good.
Have you not been playing long?
What is your basis of comparison?
>>46681573
It bolts all creatures when triggered
Its a soft field wipe, that you give control of triggering to your opponent, the temp indestructibility is irrelevant
>>46639935
>>46623065
>>46658315
>>46675237
>>46675291
I like these
>>46677112
I like this the most
>>46678961
Thanks for the advice, good luck finding friends to draft that beauty with.
>>46684649
>temp indestructibility is irrelevant
Not him, but are you fucking stupid? One turn of indestructibility on instant speed is amazing, especially if you can flip her the same turn.
>>46685929
>makes creatures indestructible for 5 mana
>only flips if they die
>if you are sacrificing to get effect you are a moron
>suck ass board-wipe
still don't see why this should be impressive
its fucking casual fodder
Mono U hijinks anyone?
>Whirler Rogue
>Quickling
>Ninjas
Have you ever seen a board state and learned fucking nothing about the upcoming combat?
>>46685978
If you still can't understand, then you should never play white.
>>46686008
Wrath is white, you dipshit, and its not fucking retarded like this crap is
This is another junk rare, and you know it because you can't argue its actual merit when it has none
>>46686041
You don't get it, and you aren't willing to understand, so I'm not going to waste my time trying to explain why instant-speed indestructible is good, or why a 4/4 vigilance flyer for 5 that flips to bigger is good.
>>46685978
>>46685978
Okay, wipe the sand out of your vagina for a second and think.
>win combat without being present beforehand
>4/4 flying vigilance is flatly good for 5
>if anything else dies it bolts the field and their face
>it also fucking grows on it's own when it bolts
You know why Rhino was good? Because it was dumb as shit value.
You wanna know why Madacyn is good? Because it's dumb as shit value. Also being Mythic drives up prices but that's fucking whatever.
>>46686099
I must be a relic from pre-lobotomy mtg
rhino was under-costed and immediate effect; it was literally a spell no one would look at twice with a free fucking creature stapled on it
this may be a fatty but its fucking effect is retarded, and to be honest fatties shouldn't be a threat because answers, but i forgot WotC hates actual game-play beyond "creatures the tappening"
>>46686152
>>46686152
You're right that removal got bad, but 'your side is indestructible' is an immediate and strong ETB, which is attached, free, to a Serra Angel.
Baros Charm is, what, 2 mana? Same as Lightning Helix, the thing Rhino got free.
It's not hard to have a sac outlet, either, which if you really want to be retarded can flip Madacyn on the same turn she ETBs. Winning combat and bolting their side is a good effect to build for, even if it requires marginally more thought than Rhino.
You are right, though, big fat asses are fun, as judged by Wizards, and Doom Blade is not, why would we ever think otherwise.
So I got my first Deckbuilder's Toolkit.
Is using multiple colours accepted as normal? I thought I'd be best starting with a single colour (although I'm not sure which I'd pick) but everywhere else seems to expect me to use two colours.
>>46688451
more colors gives more versatility. each color has things they can't do and/or can't do well. fewer colors gives your deck more consistency as you won't have to worry about tour mana falling incorrectly so you can't play your cards. both are acceptable, though two colors is incredibly common.
>>46688506
I just thought it'd be wiser to start with a single colour, just to take out some extra complexity. More straightforward.
Now I just need to actually choose a colour.
>>46688543
You should really choose to start with two colors. Just look online as to how many lands/creatures/non-creature spells should be in a deck and Divide that number in half and put that many of each type and color in the deck. I think the battle for zendikar deck builder's toolkit had two of each and every basic dual land.
