Why is it always succubi that get redeemed? Where's my redeemed balrogs and shedim?
No point redeeming something you wouldn't want to waifu.
Girls don't want it either, because actually changing the bad boy removes your need to change him.
>>46574615
I don't have the image of the new dreadlord, but try World of Warcraft
>your throne room will never be guarded by gleaming golden Pit Fiends, radiant with holy light
>your chapel will never be filled with the plainsong of chastely-dressed Succubus nuns
>your fields will never be worked by cheerful Bone Demons, whistling merry folk-tunes with the village children as they harvest this year's wheat crop
why even live
>>46574977
Not even beardbro devils for the Dwarves.
>>46574615
Because /tg/ is full of socially maladjusted retards with a bigger brain in their dick than in their head. It's also why we get sexy kobolds/dragons/goblins/elves threads instead of culture building threads. Also I think vore was rampant at one point on this board.
>>46575108
Gods, dat asshurt.
>>46574803
I want to /thread this but...
>Implying women would actually care enough to save a man in any way, shape or form
Women are the selective gender. If the man they're interested in is quite literally damned, they just look for another man. It's like men and their cars: some men honestly, truly love their cars but they wouldn't hesitate to buy a new one if their current car is old and busted.
>>46575159
So what other reason would there be for a paladin to try and "fix" a demon of lust and deceit knowing full well that there's a 100% likelyhood that any progress he sees is a lie crafted by the succubus in order to get close enough to the paladin to simultaneously drain his soul throughout dick and destroy everything he loves.
>>46575253
>Women are the selective gender. If the man they're interested in is quite literally damned, they just look for another man
>implying women don't go crazy over hopeless cases
Russel Brand is somehow popular and he's an acorn dicked moron with a shrill and irritating voice. Maybe it's just the way he dresses.
>>46575351
>Russel Brand is somehow popular
Which is enough to make him attractive. It's not that he's popular because women love him, women love him because he's popular/famous.
Or do you think Bieber was an international heartthrob before his singing """""talent""""" was scouted?
>>46575295
>a 100% likelyhood
Nope :)
>>46575253
MGTOW pls go
>>46575351
Brand successfully poses as a cool outsider. He's found his niche trying to be the sharp-witted working man's intellectual, and a lot of easily-impressed people go gaga over that shit. His domineering personality helps too.
He actually has very little that's interesting or novel to say. He reminds me of when I was 15 and had a head full of Levellers lyrics.
>>46575295
What if a young, inexperienced paladin starts out honestly desiring to smite a succubus that's way out of his league? What if she knows that she could very well wreck his shit but decides to toy with him first because he may very well prove himself useful? What if, through sustained and chronic conflictin which the paladin strives hard to smite the succubus while she just tries not to hurt his pride too muchthe two of them actually end up falling in love? What if, in spite of this, neither side is willing to compromise on their morals and tries to convert the other?
>>46574615
Gotta agree, I talked about this on a Thread about how we could make Succubi Exciting again.
Why can't I have a little Imp who learned to become a better person, holding my stuff and doing small chores for me rather than trying to backstab me, trick me, or convince me to backstab or trick someone else for once.
I'd also like to see more like "Behemoth" Demons try to better themselves. Not Gentle Giants, not Merciless, Chaotic but Dedicated to a Good Cause type of person, a reasonable Demon. doesn't have to be the nicest or smartest just a Demon that would rather leave a little bandit clan or goblin tribe alive rather than slaughtering the whole lot.
>>46575159
>>46575253
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>>46574977
You people need to learn to separate your hobbies and your fetishes. Jeez.
>>46574615
Succubi are intelligent spies and infiltrators that need to understand mortal emotions to a degree where they can be mimicked and manipulated. They are always dancing along the line between acting as a character and being a character, and while their demonic nature keeps redemption as an extreme rarity, their unique role and proximity makes them more likely to be influenced by the mentality of mortals than other demons.
It's a tale older than time, of a person pretending to fall in love, but accidentally doing so. Or a spy sympathizing with the country they are spying on. Or simply a foreigner picking up the habits and customs of their new city.
Being demons makes it so that this isn't really a daily concern, but if any demons were to be redeemed, succubi would have the highest chance because of this.
>>46576983
>You people need to learn to separate your hobbies and your fetishes. Jeez.
Did you even read all those posts? Because it looks like you didn't.
>>46575108
Seconded.
Redeemed crustaceamid what do?
![stag-king[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/gadIUIk.jpg "stag-king[1].jpg")
>>46574615
>Why is it always succubi that get redeemed? Where's my redeemed balrogs and shedim?
Not necessarily "redeemed", but this is how I do up my Fey.
The "Fey" is composed of Demons and Angels who've basically lived long enough within the mortal realm to have developed some sense of context and have looked upon their own native divine/demonic realms and have found them "lacking".
Nature is an overwhelming, sympathetic and addictive force that can overcome all temperaments and alignments through time.
Because they are grills.
Make criminals or bad people? Hang them up, throw them in jail, castrate them, end of story.
Bad female? Reform her, teach her some manners, she'll calm down when she's a mother, she's hot lol.
Not even fedora shit, both genders act this way naturally. It's evolutionary but society isn't helping at all either.
>>46574977
>I call themredemons
>>46579266
i call thatcancer
>>46579974
The only treatment isdemotherapy
>>46580024
that waspunbelieveable
>>46574615
Paladin semen is a vital component in redemption
>>46574615
I'd prefer a redeemed Erinye, myself.
As for why, probably half the attractive sexy fantasy (who wouldn't want someone literally build for sex but not dangerous?) and half that it's somewhat more "believable" when it looks somewhat human. A succubus could pass herself off as a human, or at least appear human-ish most of the time. A balrog or bone devil is just going to scream BAD GUY unless you play them up as some Mary Sue wonder-savior.
Also, it's probably because a succubus is (relatively) non-dangerous. Most of their dangers involve charisma and discussion, while most of the danger of a balrog involves fire and destruction. It's easier to think of a non-deceptive succubus than a non-destructive balrog.
Also, at this point it's because a recurring theme for redeemed succubus or redeemed/good undead, while redeemed other evil demons are far less common.
While "redeemed" Succubi are an immediate and sure-fire way to know that the setting is fucked and only exist to fuel the GM's erection, I'll admit that Succubi probably interact in a non-battle scenario with mortals the most compared to other demons. While I'd prefer to see some "redeemed" burly and unintelligent but desperate to please Baatezus or snarky and sarcastic imps over waifu, with horns this time, it probably makes the most sense over all if a setting insists on having a form of "redeemable" demons.
>>46574615
>Why is it always succubi that get redeemed?
Never played a game where this happened. Not sure I've ever read a story where it happened either, unless we count pornography.
>>46581445
>I'll admit that Succubi probably interact in a non-battle scenario with mortals the most compared to other demons.
I don't think that's quite true.
They certainly don't act unabashedly amoral at every moment, although this is more due to desiring or requiring subtlety than any sort of moral restraint. It's the equivalent of a demonic assassin not casually butchering any human they come across, and instead focusing on locating and killing their assassination target. Or, for that matter, a demon bound to a sorcerer not immediately slaughtering the first assistant they see: most (intelligent) demons would try to play the game for their independence over just doing something Because It Is Evil™.
While "redeemed" Succubi are an immediate and sure-fire way to know that the setting is fucked and only exist to fuel the GM's erection, I'll admit that Succubi probably interact in a non-battle scenario with mortals the most compared to other demons. While I'd prefer to see some "redeemed" burly and unintelligent but desperate to please Baatezus or snarky and sarcastic imps over waifu, with horns this time, it probably makes the most sense over all if a setting insists on having a form of "redeemable" demons.
>>46580086
You know, bad sex jokes aside I can /kinda/ buy that in a weird magical realm kinda way. Like the demon is getting pumped full of holy seed that sort of takes root in it's very soul and sort of infects it with goodness.
>>46574615
Because thirsty waifufag neckbeards can't disassociate the idea of humanity from the image of a pretty lady. Things that look like monsters get treated like monsters because it's easy to just think of them as nothing but monsters.
>>46583018
People fear the different and all that. I've always been a sucker for characters and races that look monstrous and weird but are actually just people, and I've always found D&D's species-wide alignment really stupid.
>>46574615
I don't mind redeemed succubi. Reverse corruption fetish is a good one, too.
Still, even as straightfag I would appreciate other kinds of demons getting their shot at redemption too.
Like a reformed Balor paladin that's occasionally mentioned in such threads.
As a matter of fact, Hellboy is a kind of poster boy for such characters, although not really because he was raised to be good from the beginning rather than choosing to shed his old life on his own. I suppose it is much more plausible though - any sparks of goodness among demons would have to be a weakness and used against the entity exhibiting them.
>>46577128
>implying this whole thread isn't another thin veiled magical realm.
>>46574615
Because /tg/ has shit taste and is filled with faggots looking for excuse to delve into the magical realm.
>>46586761
Demons not being always chaotic evil is magical realm now?
>>46587112
Yes. How was that not already abundantly clear to you?
>One of the balrog grew a good morality
>Hides during all the wars
>Strive to become a good blacksmith, only making non weapon tools
>Become renowned as a master blacksmith, now taking apprentice
>Strict but gentle teacher to everyone that wishes to learn forging
I dig that
>>46587119
Because it's not? Are Hellboy and Spawn fap material now? If in my setting a lesser demon is willing to sign a truce with the heroes or surrender or an imp is being just an annoying twat it means I'm jerking off under the table?
>>46574615
Nobody wants to give those any Holy Dickings.
>>46587330
>If in my setting a lesser demon is willing to sign a truce with the heroes or surrender or an imp is being just an annoying twat it means I'm jerking off under the table?
Given the depths of degeneracy that /tg/ has achieved, I'd say yes.
>>46576238
The image you posted is fitting: it's stupid animu fetishit and you should kill yourself.
>>46587330
Spawn certainly isn't good. As for the rest I don't think it's enough evidence to deduce your undertable activities.
>>46585525
>any sparks of goodness among demons would have to be a weakness and used against the entity exhibiting them.
Maybe he isn't really Good, but he's trying to be in order to get out of hell. It wouldn't be hell if people wanted to stay there.
>>46589038
This. People tend to forget judeo-christian hell was supposed to be a shithole for the demons too.
>>46575351
>Maybe it's just the way he dresses.
This. Women are materialistic ABOVE ALL ELSE. Women want Russel Brand because of his money.
Notice how the manless woman is perfectly content to be alone so long as she is rich. By contrast, a womanless man will trade all of his riches for companionship.
>>46589038
>So kid, you think you're not afraid of hell? You think it's a place where you get to chill out with all those cool badasses you've read about?
>*snorts*
>Let me tell ya about my childhood...
