What's your deck.
What are you brewing.
Did the unban give you anything to do.
Does me using periods instead of question marks trigger your autism.
I always thought the "modern sucks" statement is just a meme, but the more I play legacy the more i notice it's true. Even standard is more enjoyable.
cont.
>>46523739
>4 cmc 3 loyalty planeswalker that can't defend himself
>Ending the game at all, let alone by himself in aggro_lightingbolt.format
Sure familia, I bet you think JtMS would be a "game ender" in Modern too.
>Scooze can remove sword, yes, but Tezzeret wasn't a deck if it would fold to gy removal like you imply
>same goes for Abrupt
Thopter Depths was never a deck at a time when Scooze, Decay, and most of Modern's answers and hate existed.
Affinity can barely scrape out solid winrate with SBs packed with artifact rape, but now you're gonna tell me that Sword/Foundry and Tezzeret animating lands is somehow faster?
>>46524097
>What's your deck.
Soul Norin and 7-forest Belcher. I'm the Memeking.
>What are you brewing.
Nothing. Modern sucks dicks.
>Did the unban give you anything to do.
Nope.
>Does me using periods instead of question marks trigger your autism.
Given that I have a degree in English and posing questions without using question marks is just blatantly incorrect, I guess so? It mostly makes you look like an idiot.
>>46524192
No, it really is a terrible format.
>>46524192
Cool story bro
>>46524097
>what's your deck?
Infect for fnm, hidetsugu's teachings for Tuesday free modern nights and general dicking around.
>what are you brewing
I've been thinking about trying "5 color 5 mana bombs from standards past" with things like thragtusk, thundermaw hellkite, and obzedat but I'm too lazy to actually build it.
>did the unbans give you anything to do?
it should be fun to have opponents suspend AV turn one and then kill them before it comes off suspend
>>46524192
I agree that legacy is superior but nothing is as bad as fucking standard.
>>46524218
>plays literal garbage decks
>format sucks lol
Why are you even here
>>46524102
No. You empty out your hand so fast and leave only lands for them to strip or even nothing at all. Once youre hellbent they have no way to execute their gameplan.
>>46524280
>standard will never be as good as it was during INN / RTR
Atleast we can hope that it becomes playable when the steaming turd BFZ rotates out
>>46524327
>Once youre hellbent they have no way to execute their gameplan
Not him but lol. That is their plan. Throw out a bridge or a couple racks and you're dead just as quick
>>46523355
I still think it has its uses. It's primarily standard demand and that's where my copies are going.
I really don't care someone gets to draw a card, especially when running W/U control. Not to mention they have to potentially waste 2 mana to draw.
>>46524192
Its not a meme. This format is terrible. Its filled with incredibly boring linear decks. Play Burn, Affinity, Infect, Tron/Eldrazi or lose. Thats the diversity of modern, 3 aggro decks, a colorless control deck, and a bunch of bad combos that occasionally win but are just inconsistent.
>>46524327
>Once youre hellbent they have no way to execute their gameplan.
That literally IS their game plan. What the fuck?
>>46524327
Thanks for the hearty lol
>>46524383
And then i topdeck nothing but Boros Charms and Bolts and win
>>46524407
Where's Abzan Company is all of this?
>>46524407
So is legacy
You either play powered up versions of aggro decks, explosive combo or miracles
>>46524420
Bridge does nothing to stop the onslaught of Spikes, Bolts and Boros Charms. And rack is slower then my win con.
>>46524448
I assume you play burn. I'll board in nyxathid and beat you to death faster or siphon life.
You clearly don't even know how 8rack operates so stop posting
>>46524327
>Once youre hellbent they have no way to execute their gameplan.
JUST MULLIGAN TO ZERO AND THERE'S NO WAY YOU CAN LOSE
>>46524097
>What's your deck.
Sultai midrange. As posted in the other thread (also big thanks to everyone that replied)
>What are you brewing.
Turbofog and working with sultai still
>Did the unban give you anything to do.
ANCESTRAL VISIONS OH BABY
>Does me using periods instead of question marks trigger your autism.
Pic related
>>46524500
>playing 8rack these days
anon plz.
>>46524420
>>46524442
>>46524502
ITT Modern players don't understand the concept of a clock.
>>46524500
Ill board in destructive revelrys for the Bridges and Racks and a skullcrack or two to prevent lifegain in addition to the A Commands.
>>46524606
This. And Eidolon doesnt get hurt by bridge that much and they dont have much good removal being a monoblack deck.
ITT
Anons meta game so hard they forgot what fun is
>>46524606
B8/8
>>46524655
>he doesn't have fun trying to out meta the other faggots in the thread
>>46524468
Theres a lot more diversity in Legacy
For Aggro theres Burn, Stoneblade, Delver, Goblins, MUD etc
For control theres Miracles and some fringe decks
For combo theres (good) Storm, Sneak Show, Reanimator , Dredge, Belcher
The big thing about this is that all of these decks are viable and can put up a fight. Where as in modern only their aggro equivalents( Burn, Merfolk, Eldrazi) put up any results.
>people don't know how to beat 8 rack
It's as easy as playing any other good deck against it. Fuck, 8 rack isn't even on mtgtop8 anymore.
>>46524097
>What's your deck.
Merfolk & UR Delver
>What are you brewing.
Tezzeret w/ Foundry Sword slotted in (2x sword, 3x Foundry). Played a ton of games on cockatrice and xmage. I'm thinking of just going all in for it and trading my Delver stuff.
>Did the unban give you anything to do.
See above
>Does me using periods instead of question marks trigger your autism.
Didn't even notice until now
I hate modern for the goldfish fest it's become, but that's not stopping me from playing the bears.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/28-03-16-bear-force-one/
I've won a number of games with this deck; they want to rush me down, I force them to interact. Zoo and Burn still fuck my face though. Merfolk is just non-consentual sex with my senses.
>>46524858
What's your thopter sword list bruh?
>want to play modern
>all the staples for the fun decks are 60-160 dollars a piece
>all wizards is ever gonna do is print the staples at mythic in 10 dollar packs
> some of the mythics they print for said packs aren't even worth 25
Why?
>>46524912
>comet storm
Also, what do you consider the fun decks?
>>46524899
I'm using LSV's list from his stream as a base (he threw it together really quick).
I'm at work right now, so I can't post it but if you go to his twitch channel and go to the last hour of his last broadcast recording you can see it.
He uses 4x Ancestral Visions, but I think he just forced it in to test it out. (It doesn't really fit in the deck that well. Could probably replace with hand disruption or more artifacts)
>>46524945
Is it on YouTube?
>>46524958
Not on YouTube you have to go through twitch ie: twitch tv/lsv
>>46524192
Well, I mean, the best format is clearly Vintage, but Legacy is pretty close. Modern is usually good, but it's suspectible to getting buttfucked by recent releases, in small part because the card pool is still relatively small, and because Wizards try to keep the power level of it at a near constant level, which means that when a new set introduces something broken like the Eldrazi deck the format gets warped.
>>46524854
Oh look it's the retard that made the last thread and has no idea what he's talking about
>>46524097
>What's your deck?
Looking forward to putting away Prison for Grixis Delver, assuming everyone will be abandoning Eldrazi for the next meme deck. Extirpating Sword of the Meek will feel great.
>What are you brewing?
Not much. Might throw something anti-meta together if one deck becomes dominant.
>Did the unban give you anything to do?
I'll try out AV in UB Chalice Fae, but I'm keeping my hopes grounded until I have results.
>Does me using periods instead of question marks trigger your autism?
It makes you look retarded, but I don't really mind.
I have such a boner for clues
what secret clue tech should I run?
>>46524937
Decks with ravager, goyf, the agroey decks that aren't blue decks
>>46524192
I would be okay with Modern if it were cheaper. As it stands, generally a competitive modern deck costs the same as a competitive legacy deck, only modern decks are more likely to get completely hosed in the next banning.
If there were more local Legacy events instead of Modern events, or if Modern staples got reprinted in significant ways so that their decks were cheaper, I'd be happy. But for now, I look at investing in a modern deck and think, for just a few more dollars I could invest in a Legacy deck that's less linear, more fun to play, and will most likely be relevant for longer.
>>46525304
And you get to play with nobody when you buy into legacy!
>>46525220
Pro tip: Build a deck that can easily transfer over from Modern to Legacy. In case this format gets fucked again then youll have two decks in one and you can play the better format.
>>46525304
>>46525324
For most people, "Modern vs Legacy" comes down to "Playing Magic vs Not Playing Magic"
>>46525324
Where does this meme come from? My LGS hosts Legacy on Saturday and a good amount of people show up. I have friends who play Legacy and I can generally grab a game of Legacy at the shop even on Fridays. Modern is obviously more popular but games of Legacy are easy enough to grab.
>>46525324
A bit of a misnomer as I admitted legacy events are less populace than modern events. There are still legacy events though, it's not the dead format Vintage is.
>>46525220
>the agroey decks that aren't blue decks
Your lose 2BH ohana
>>46525371
I could only get this if you lived in really rural areas. I live in a big city and theres enough Legacy for me to justify a deck. I also have friends who play Legacy and you can always proxy a deck for a friend if they dont have their own.
>>46525382
This. Most people recognize Legacy as the best format in MtG. Even with Vintage being dead ive actually still seen games of it being played at the shop ( with proxies of course)
>>46525414
>>46525453
Tournaments with proxies can't be sanctioned events.
>>46524327
im the guy you replied to. thanks for the kek. even if it's bait
>>46524854
but it is familia
>>46525531
I know that. With a playgroup proxies are fine. But my LGS holds real sanctioned Legacy events on Saturday.
>>46524097
>What's your deck.
Grixis Faeries
>What are you brewing.
Topplegeist Spirit Tribal
>Did the unban give you anything to do.
Looking at Visions but I'm not that sure I want it desu, it's a long term investment and most of my cards are already multi role
>Does me using periods instead of question marks trigger your autism.
Not really, it's noticeably wrong but that doesn't bother me
>>46525531
and that is trash
most people cant afford vintage
they wont reprint the cards
wizards doesnt even make money of the secondary market
the least they could do is reverse this
fucking scum
>>46525805
>wizards doesnt even make money of the secondary market
Ha ha! I caught the meme! What a good memer am I! This is my favourite meme! Next up is remand is a timewalk or burn takes skill! Ha ha! What a meme! You sir are a meme Queen at this meme rate! Memes! Haha!
>>46525946
But they dont? How does Wizards make money off of someone buying a VolcanicIsland from their LGS ?
TIER
ONE
KEKS
>>46525977
Close one kid but you can't meme me. I know you're trying a meme out but let's face it. You're memeing with the big kids now. Your Loud memes arent going to cut it here
>>46526037
Stop.
>>46525982
why the hell are you playing summit apes
also obligatory
>no goyf with fetches
>>46525982
>no hooting mandrils
>no teferi
Wut
>>46526131
check again, friend. there's not a fetch to be found in that deck.
>>46526183
thats why i said that, why no goyf and with that why not fetches with that non goyf you don't have? Its like you enjoy playing subpar shit.
>>46524097
>What's your deck.
>implying I only have one deck
>What are you brewing.
None.
>Did the unban give you anything to do.
I tested a tad, but old t1 decks are still beating control.
>>46525982
>>46526131
>>46526208
A better question would be why are you playing Fruit of the First Tree in a deck that caps out at a toughness level of 3 on a good day? Four mana for three cards, you might as well play Harmonize.
>>46525380
>There's legacy where I live, so there must be legacy events everywhere
>>46526315
goyf could help massively with that, throw it on a 5/6 goyf, and watch you restock your entire damn hard.
>>46524211
no one said it is faster
but you and others (who obviously have neither played Tezz or played against him) are underestimating the lines of play he enables or his resilience - even as a 4cmc PW
+1 replaces him and threatens to win the next turn
yeah, bolt him and waste an attack on him - I just drew a card and you lost one while my life total stayed the same and the game goes on
or let me -2 him - yes, you can remove him now with your bolt, but you have to deal with this 5/5 as well that was just some useless rock/utility/whatever-artifact and you have to waste hard removal
what you seem to completely forget: cards that threaten to win on their own and force your opponent to make at least 1:1 trade if not worse are considered good
>but I can remove card X so it has to be bad!
apply yourself
>>46526315
>the joke
>your head
>>46525024
Lmao you mad as fuck, why do you get so defensive over a deck? It's not like you have anything to do with making it.
>>46525785
>Topplegeist Spirit Tribal
how are you planning to do this? there are like 4 playable spirits max
>>46526444
Lol you're the one that sounds mad friend
I was only pointing out it was the man baby who was op last thread and said nothing but dumb shit then threw a tantrum when someone put his name on too
>>46525982
I feel that explore won't be very effective when your land count is only 18. If it's only there for the cantrip you might as well use aggressive urge or manamorphose
>>46526484
How am I a man baby, all I did was not take my name off.
>>46525785
TappedOut links?
Lantern control is fun. I recommend that you play it. I'll link my list. http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/lantern-control-how-to-lose-all-your-friends/
>>46525982
4x Kird Ape
4x Tree Monkey
4x Simian Spirit Guide
4x Adaptive Automaton/Zodiac Monkey
2x Kird Chieftain
2x Hooting Mandrils
4x Rancor
4x Lightning Bolt
4x Atarka's Command
4x Ghor-Clan Rampager
2x Garruk wildspeaker
2x Cinder Glade
2x Rootbound Crag
2x Treetop Village
4x Stomping Grounds
6x Mountain
6x Forest
:^)
>>46526783
I played Lantern at my lgs and 2 of my 5 rounds instantly conceded and the owner told me I'm not welcome if I play decks like that again
I never went back regardless
>>46524097
Mono W T u r b o f o g :o
>>46526783
Your list is shit desu senpai
>>46526382
>what you seem to completely forget: cards that threaten to win on their own and force your opponent to make at least 1:1 trade if not worse are considered good
This is literally the opposite of a good card. All permenants do this. "Good value cards" are ones that threaten MORE than that, and PWs have to be able to either do that or protect themselves. Tezz marginally 1-for-1s if you're lucky, and you essentially spend 4 mana on an Ancient Stirrings.
Im completely baffled how you think that a 3 loyalty PW can do anything, let alone survive, on turn 4 and beyond when you're facing down a board full of threats and combo potentials. This isn't Legacy.
>>46527179
So LotV is bad?
>>46526382
>yeah, bolt him and waste an attack on him - I just drew a card and you lost one while my life total stayed the same and the game goes on
Oh no I have to attack something and kill it for free, how inconvenient, at least my opponent paid 4 mana for stirrings.
>or let me -2 him - yes, you can remove him now with your bolt, but you have to deal with this 5/5 as well that was just some useless rock/utility/whatever-artifact and you have to waste hard removal
Oh no a worse Celestial Colonnade, whatever will I do?
>>46527207
LoTV is 3 mana, and has the ability to either trade/set up a 2 for 1 the turn she's played, or trade on board while staying alive.
Tezzeret dosnt impact your opponent and just gets popped, Lili actively disrupts your opponent in whatever way he doesn't want you to, and then has to be removed. Expending resources to kill Lili is a 2 for 1 at best, and swinging at her means swinging into a 4/5 or 5/6 Goyf typically.
>>46527375
Mmmm I love this card.
Favourite card to play with in modern right after koth.
>>46526976
I'll take "Things That Didn't Happen" for 500, Alex.
>>46527159 It was intended for the FNM level.
>>46524097
>What's your deck.
Moved from Stompy to Take Turns recently
>What are you brewing.
Making a good Demigod of Revenge Skred list, or just play normal Skred.
>Did the unban give you anything to do.
Gave me AV's and a sword to sell :^)
>>46527159
Also, how is it shit? It seems to me you have never played lantern control before. Or, you're expecting my deck to be level with top 8
Where my Emeria bros at?
>>46527684
>Gave me AV's and a sword to sell :^)
I was thinking of selling mine... but don't feel like bothering with it.
>236 monopoly monies
>only gets me 12 of the 75 cards I need
I hate Magic's secondary market. Looks like I'm gonna be sticking to playing burn.
>>46527753
Resting in Peace
>>46527783
It's your fault for jumping on the hottest new meme bandwagon.
>>46527783
>trying to build the newest memedeck
Just wait for everyone to realize it's shit, then the prices will drop.
>>46527804
>>46527815
But I want to meme it up at FNM, and laugh at all the salty eldrazi players
>>46527863
Memes aint cheap nigga
>>46527602
I don't need you to belive me lol
The players I know are pure creature loving salt monsters
>>46527900
Memes should be reasonably priced though, not 20 dollars for an uncommon that currently isn't even played in any deck.
>tfw control is stronger in fucking Hearthstone than it is in Modern
>>46528068
Controlfags need to just go play a different format. They obviously don't want it to be great in modern.
It's not everyone else's fault you came into modern expecting to play an unsupported archetype
>>46527951
>currently isn't even played in any deck.
familia..... I wouldn't go to FNM this week if thats what you think.
>>46528163
>unsupported archetype
>Pillar of any functioning card game, core enabler of diversity
Yeah why would anyone want that??
>>46528313
Pillar of any card game is counter spell play? Lol OK
There is control in modern. Just not blue draw go. Not everything is going to cater to you
>>46528357
>There is control in modern
Name one functioning deck that aims to reactively or responsibly control the pace of the game while winning with threat inevitability.
>>46528432
Eldrazi used to control your Life Points and there was very little shit you could do :^)
>>46528432
idk wtf responsibly controlling the board is but tron controls the board then wins with late game inevitability so there's that
>>46528432
Skred is just one off the top of my head. But you'll say it's shit without playing it anyway
>>46524097
> What's your deck.
8-rack built right out of the primer
> What are you brewing.
Zambos
> Did the unban give you anything to do.
No
>>46528432
I only control the board irresponsibly
Control is dead in Modern because Wizards pushed all the good combo decks out of the format, allowing hyper aggro decks and Tron to run wild.
>>46528632
Is Skred still a thing? I never played it but it looked cool
>>46528686
It's pretty weird when pauper has a better control deck than modern.
Serious question /tg/
What deck are you actually playing in modern right now?
What you are brewing is completely irrelevant, I want to know what you nerds actually play.
I'm feeling the bern myself
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/lightning-bolt-tribal/
>>46528927
It's not that strange because Wizards isn't actively fucking with pauper. Any change Wizards makes to a format worsens it guaranteed.
>>46528628
>tron is control
Trash tier memes bruh
>>46528927
No it isn't, removal is way better at common than threats are.
>>46529040
>if it doesn't counter everything then rev for 15 it's not control
>>46528882
Yea it's good in a creature heavy meta and is highly customizable
>>46528930
-feeling the bern
Really liking that cuck-shed, eh?
Do you guys know if it's still possible to get the free decks? I want to get into a card game with some friends (we're not sure between ygo and mtg)
>>46528930
Jund as always
What is actually worse? Giving opponent 1 extra mana or an ability to pay 2 draw 1?
If declaration in stone was instant, it would be modern playable for sure.
>>46524304
>Why are you even here
I need salt to sprinkle on my dark chocolate and the Modern general threads are the best way to get it.
>>46529391I'm actually a Canadian, I want Brnie to win so I can watch America sufferI don't hate you guys enough to support Hillary though
>>46529471
Thanks for answering you cucks
>>46528432
Lantern
>>46529794
Wrong thread retard. This is competitive magic not poorfag handouts
>>46529471
>>46529794
What free decks are you talking about? I've never heard of such a thing.
>>46529841
I'll play ygo instead. Mtg players look like a bunch of elitist dumbasses
>>46529864
Lol stay mad
http://strawpoll.me/7309265
>>46529864
Yugioh is like actual scalding hot diarrhea m8
>>46529145
>spending turns 1-4 searching for tron lands then shitting 7 mana threats out of your hand is control
Okay.
>>46529864
>Mtg players look like a bunch of elitist dumbasses
You are gonna have a really bad time playing ygo if you think /tg/ is full of elitists
>>46527283
>Oh no I have to attack something and kill it for free, how inconvenient, at least my opponent paid 3 mana for ravens crime.
>Oh no a worse Chainers Edict, whatever will I do?
>>46529945
This. Tron has no answer to combo, which makes it a pretty fucking shitty control deck.
>>46528930
>>46529857
They used to have shitty clash pack type decks thar new players could enjoy but had no money cards to avoid hoarding by collectors
Daily reminder that tooth and nail and Gr devotion are control decks.
>>46530049
Game one they shouldn't be but after that hell yea.
P command, mwonvuli moss, Bramblecrush
>>46530047
Clash packs still costed cash money friendo, they were't free.
You should still be able to buy them, assuming your LGS has them in stock
>>46530099
No. You don't get it. They had really shitty ones years ago that were in shops for you to just take and try magic out
I'm not him btw
>>46530099
I believe that anon was referring to the free mini-decks that wizards likes to hand out at cons.
So how do I go about building a modern deck? New to the format but a buddy wants me to play it with him. I usually only do casual kitchen-table magic or EDH. What sort of cards or decks should I be aware of as either "look out for this" or "this is an auto-include for this kind of deck"?
>>46527375
Tezzeret does impact your opponent though. If you're playing the deck correctly, your opponent should not have a plethora of creatures out to deal with him, and if they do then they have to run 1 of them into a 5/5 which is likely going to kill it. So then they're down a creature, and have to real with a 5/5 for free which is not bad, as Gurmag Anglers can win games on their own. If you have decent board position and play him after a board wipe or something like you should, then he's going to win you the game as going 5 deep in a deck with lots of artifacts that help you win games is going to win left unchecked. Also he doesn't get hit by abrupt decay, and he can make a 5/5 and then another immediately, whole Lili can only edict once. I'm not saying Tezzeret is better than Liliana, but he is fat from as bad as you're making him sound.
>>46530131
Oh really? Well that's new to me
>>46530175
That's an incredibly difficult question to answer. Are you going to play competitively or just against your friend for a bit of fun?
>>46530175
I are you ready to spend 1000 dollars on a decent deck?
>>46530175
You need an idea or theme or general thought of what kind of deck you want to build/use before you even ask the question of "how do I build it"
Rposting the version that people can actually read.
>>46524097
>What's your deck.
Merfolk
>What are you brewing.
Nothing really, just moved my legacy Chalices to my SB for this Friday. Can't wait to blow out AV with Chalice X.
>Did the unban give you anything to do.
Not really. Only idiots would use AV in Merfolk.
>Does me using periods instead of question marks trigger your autism.
No? :^)
>>46530352
This really needs to be updated, both to remove Twin/Amulet and to add newer archetypes like Eldrazi.
>>46530461
>Eldrazi
More like Elstupidzi
>>46530461
Bloom still exists though, and it's still hitting t2 prime times. It's less powerful than the predecessor, but it's still a thing.
>>46530486
Nice one
>>46530461
>add Eldrazi
b-but the new B/R list killed Memerazi!
>>46530522
This. But people don't play decks that have a peice banned. OP or bust I guess
>>46530552
It really didn't. The deck can't kill on turn 3 anymore (which is what Wizards took issue with), but even without the T1 Mimic army it's still a solid tribe. I'm looking on the bright side of never again topdecking an Eye with one on the field.
Quick rules question for you, /tg/.
The board state is as follows.
>Play omen
>Play valakut
>valakut triggers itself
>hold priority
>sacrifice sakura tribe elder, go fetch a land
>valakut triggers off the land
>hold priority
>sac wooded foothills to go fetch a land
>valakut triggers off the land
>hold priority
>sacrifice khalni heart
>go get two lands
>valakut triggers off each land
>triggers begin to resolve, 6 other mountains in play
>deal 15 damage
Is my line of reasoning correct?
>>46530823
afaik that works because the valakut trigger only cares about how many mountains it sees on resolution
>>46530131
Intro kits are still available at most stores
>>46530230
Well neither of us really play in competitive settings, but he might go to a few. I'm not sure. The decks he make are certainly very competitive and brutal to play against.
Still working on this. Considering switching the oblivion sowers for all is dust; although this change seems to make the deck less threat dense. While oblivion sower works as a strong midrange threat, I am unsure if it is enough to compensate for not having a board clear. Also considering replacing the main board ruin processor with another one of eldrazi, but unsure which one. I already tested emrakul and it was simply too slow for the deck.
>>46530823
It doesnt work since the games checks that the condition is fulfilled when creating and resolving the trigger.
>>46531206
>Eldrazi Tron
>>46530352
>>46530461
Here is the updated one.
>>46531128
Then you need to either let him okay your using proxies (which if he doesn't then fuck him, don't play modern) or get ready to spend anywhere between 700 and 1500 dollars on a high tier deck.
>>46524097
>What's your deck.
Dank Memerange
>What are you brewing.
coffee
>Did the unban give you anything to do.
laugh at people buying AV for 50 dollarydoos
>Does me using periods instead of question marks trigger your autism.
didnt even notice til you pointed it out
>>46531350
He uses proxies like I do.
On the subject of triggers, does Glimmervoid use the stack? Can I wait until the start of the End Step to Recall in response to Glimmervoid's check, or would I have to do it during the second main phase (where the sac could be stopped by 0-cost artifacts)?
>>46531258
kek
>>46531216
Huh.
Guess I should just check gatherer first.
>>46529751
Thinking like that you are a fucking trumper
>>46531430
Then you can honestly just go to MTGGoldfish and pick out something that looks cool.
Keep in mind that the format is very heavily skewed towards aggro.
>>46531434
I might be retarded, but I'm pretty sure the end of turn check triggers, and if you manage to do something on the stack that managed to put an artifact on the board before the check completes, then it will see the artifact and not die.
So if you Recall it in response to the trigger you wouldn't be able to actually get it since it hasn't actually died yet.
>What's your deck.
Jund
>What are you brewing.
Esper Gifts Ungiven w/ Sword Combo, main deck is finalized just need to see how the meta develops so I can build a good sideboard. Any esper players have good ideas what I should be looking to put in the sideboard?
Current Sodeboard:
1x Crucible of Worlds
1x Disenchant
2x Engineered Explosives
3x Leyline of Sanctity
2x Negate
2x Relic of Progenitus
2x Spellskite
1x Tectonic Edge
1x Timely Reinforcements
>>46531408
I like this. Keep doing god's work anon.
>>46531648
Damn burn has not been good to you
>>46531434
Just use the second main phase after they pass priority. You can't cast creatures at instant speed
>>46531920
Burns not that bad. Just general options that cover multiple decks.
>>46531956
After Recall resolves, the Affinity player again has priority to do whatever he likes during his own main phase. Don't try to give out advice when you don't understand how the game plays.
>>46531434
The triggered ability of Glimmervoid has an intervening if clause. If the condition is not true at the time when the ability would trigger, then it won't trigger at all. If you really want your opponent to sacrifice Glimmervoid, you should use Hurkyl's Recall during your turn but beware of Nexus.
>>46531956
>I don't know how priority works
>>46531408
Not even 1 Kiki jiki
Why?
>>46532049
>>46532166
Wow, you guys really are bad at magic >
Do people actually think acentral visions is good?
>>46532370
No but they think ancestral vision is good.
It's not
>>46532392
Yeah it really isn't. I wonder how many people are getting cucked right now.
>>46532370
>if a card is a bad top deck it's unplayable.
Yeah just like thoughtseize right?
>>46532507
That's still a better topdeck though
>>46532641
Not necessarily
>>46528930
Merfolk
>>46532692
You've convinced me
>>46532864
Hi (sorry for my bad english)
hello first time here
i have a couple of friends who want me get into mtg so i'm wondering what's the best black mana/type deck, wtv you call it, to buy if i'm a noob
ty.
>>46533043
Don't get into modern if you're just starting to learn to play magic. modern is expensive as fuck, just build casual decks with your friends while you learn to play
>>46532641
In a stalled board state I would much rather draw visions. Seriously man, think about it
>>46533092
i don't even know what ''modern'' is
i'll look it up, ty
Now I get it: COCKS AND ASSES
>>46532195
there's a kiki in the 75. it's for stealing g2/3
i have a r/w blood moon version that runs maindeck kikis, but the rwb version is a lot more fun to play.
>>46533384
What makes it more fun?
I'm thinking of playing something like this seeing as I already play skred variants
>>46531206
Have you considered Sanctum of Ugin to compensate for adding All is Dust (which reduces the threat density as you noticed)? This way, you can All is Dust into a threat, thanks to Sanctum.
>>46527684
Turns is a great deck, you can build it to fit your meta game pretty easily
Boomerang is my best friend at ny LGS
>>46524097
Is Hulk Steps good?
I'm brewing it.
>>46524097 (OP)
>What's your deck?
Formerly GB Tron, UG Tron, Podless Tron
>What are you brewing?
Kithkin Tron
>Does me using periods instead of question marks trigger your autism?
Nah not weird
>>46534185
I ran it for a while, it's pretty spicy, what's your list?
>>46533564
>What makes it more fun?
just the way the deck works. instead of being a moon-plus-combo deck it's a decently resilient fair deck, though it could use some more game vs. ad nauseam.
here's the combo version.
i hate to nonbo land disruption with paths, but some lists necessitate that brand of hard removal. it hasn't actually cost me a game yet, so i guess that's ok.
>>46534315
It's the standard list.
I don't have money for B R E A C H.
But I'm running Makeshift Rez, Footsteps, and Pentad Prisms (Instead of Guide, because money)
I'm mostly looking for suggestions.
>>46534375
Huh, that does not sound like the list I ran at all, let me find mine.
>>46534305
>Kithkin Tron
Is this actually a thing or are you just memeing?
post the fucking decklist now
>>46534400
Really? Now I'm far more interested in this.
I'll go fetch mine and post it too.
>>46534429
4 Pentad Prism
4 Protean Hulk
2 Reveillark
2 Body Double
2 Viscera Seer
1 Mogg Fanatic
4 Footsteps of the Goryo
2 Through the Breach
4 Serum Visions
4 Faithless Looting
3 Sleight of Hand
2 Taigam's Scheming
1 Gitaxian Probe
1 Summoner's Pact
3 Izzet Charm
3 Pact of Negation
4 Polluted Delta
4 Bloodstained Mire
3 Gemstone Mine
2 Steam Vents
1 Watery Grave
2 Island
1 Mountain
1 Swamp
>>46534400
Sorcery (27)
4x Faithless Looting
4x Footsteps of the Goryo
4x Gitaxian Probe
4x Ideas Unbound
3x Inquisition of Kozilek
4x Serum Visions
4x Thoughtseize
Land (19)
1x Blood Crypt
4x Bloodstained Mire
4x Polluted Delta
4x Scalding Tarn
3x Steam Vents
3x Watery Grave
Creature (10)
2x Body Double
1x Mogg Fanatic
4x Protean Hulk
1x Reveillark
2x Viscera Seer
Instant (4)
4x Izzet Charm
Here's my list, you can switch it around but I'll tell you right now this list worked excellent for me. Pretty consistently was able to go off turn 4, or 5 after finding a thoughtseize.
>>46534463
The problem with your list is that there's no interactions from you. What's your play if you probe and they have a path? Yes your combo is faster and more consistent, but I'd make the argument that mine wins through a lot more
>>46534518
That's a fair point man.
Well, what counter should I run? What interaction do I run?
>>46534473
Huh this deck seems outdated but only in the lands, I think I dropped some fetches for darks luck shores, and also a couple basics to stem the aggro bleeding
>>46534364
No dank dwellers in this list?
>>46534538
I ran 7 pieces of discard, worked well enough for me, I felt like making the combo less consistent and less explosive for the trade off of being able to win through a bolt is worth it.
>>46534412
4x Spectral Procession
4x Springjack Shepard
4x Wizened Cenn
2x Eldrazi Displacer
2x Resoration Angel
4x Cloudgoat Giant
4x Chromatic Sphere
2x Eldrazi Conscription
4x Expedition Map
4x Knight of Meadowgrain
1x Emrakul
4x Mine
4x Powerplant
4x Tower
1x Westvale Abbey
1x Springjack Pasture
1x Rustic Clachan
6x Plains
Rough list, till working out the kinks, subbing stuff in here and there, memeing out with new Odric and whatnot.
>>46534561
I'm a little lost, how would you lose to a bolt? Can't you respond to it with the combo?
>>46534577
They bolt your viscera seer while you're going off
>>46534554
There are 3, they're behind chiki-briki
>>46534596
Okay, that makes sense man.
>>46534630
I'd also recommend 1 revelark, keep your deck streamlined.
>>46530352
Holy shit, this describes me perfectly. I recently just started getting into MTG fresh, and ended up with a UB Mill deck on cockatrice because i love goofin' around
>>46528930
>pic related
>>46535018
Okay I'll bite, how does this win?
>>46535907
Part the Waterveil/Making your opponent mad
>>46535907
Lmao it doesn't win, it's a shirt deck.
>>46524097
If I control a Thalia's Lieutenant and a Lambholt Butcher, and the Butcher transforms back into Pacifist does the Lieutenant get a +1+1 counter?
>>46536328
I have to say I enjoy this typo.
>>46525054
graf mole, 4 of GET HUGE LIKE THE HUGE MOLE
>>46535018
would you play vision in this deck?
>>46535907
miracleing temporal mastery. Literally.
>>46535018
Saw this yesterday
I play a similar deck but I find sometimes winning with waterveil is kinda hard, I've been brewing with Meme in Ice as alternate wincon and it seems to do ok
Others include:
> Jace
For this I would need elixir and that takes up to spots in the list and that just isn't worth it, too inconsistent
> Thasa
She seems good, kinda, but bad on T3 and even worse after it and offers almost nothing for the mana she costs
Idk any thoughts?
>>46536380
Ask yourself, did this creature just enter the battlefield?the answer is no
>>46524097
>What's your deck.
UR Storm and Mono U Tron
>What are you brewing.
UB Thopter Tron
>Did the unban give you anything to do.
Makes me consider spicing up the Tron deck. Mostly, it just seems like people will play slow grindy control decks again so both of my decks get better.
Why do control players act like they have it bad when combo players in modern have it so much worse?
Theyve killed Storm, Eggs, Birthing Pod, Amulet Bloom , and Twin. Grishoalbrands probably next.
>>46538284
to be completely fair, the grishoalbrand deck is very easily interrupted and its got a lot of dead draws
Guys, what if...Thopter/Sword in Lantern?I dunno. Seems strong.
>>46538284
>Why do control players act like they have it bad when combo players in modern have it so much worse?
Control has almost never been a thing in Modern, whereas some of those decks you've mentioned have dominated the format in the past
>>46535907
Gigadrowse -> Exhaust until you can chain Time Warps -> Awaken PtW and smack them to death with Islands.
>>46537086
Not sure, leaning towards no.
>>46524097
>What's your deck.
Infect
>What are you brewing.
Nothing, I already play the best deck.
>Did the unban give you anything to do.
Get excited for modern, since I don't have to play against the OP eldrazi.
>Does me using periods instead of question marks trigger your autism.
Not really.
>>46538284
Uh because at least you had decks to play at one point. Can you show me a modern control deck that has ever put up results like twin or bloom?
>>46538284
The closest thing that Control has had in Mordern up until this point was shit like scapeshift/garbage UWr brews/Emeria Control/FUCKING LANTERN/maybe esper.
Literally none of those decks besides maybe Scapeshift ever got above tier 2.
Honestly this is the first time the blue control has actually had good cards that didn't IMMEDIATELY slot into storm.
>>46538963
UWR control was tier 1 at one point bro, and Shaun Mclaren won a pro tour with it, but yeah, control is pretty bad in Modern.
>>46527736
Well just by playing planeswalkers alone for win more (if it doesn't contribute to the lock, don't play it) and not getting your hand empty for bridge by turn 3 you're throwing away several winnable games. 1 Surgical isn't enough to consistently draw it for sniping away problematic cards, you might as well not play it or put another one in. You have no answers to Stony Silence in side and the two Decays usually have more important targets to hit. Mana confluence instead of Tendo or Sea Gate Wreckage is just wrong, taking 3-5 from your own spells vs Burn is a no-no. Probe is a strictly worse IoK, seeing their hand and taking 2 to the dome doesn't help shit if you can't take away their answers, you're not playing Belcher.
>>46539029
When the fuck did America win a pro tour? I mean yeah at one point before the rise of Tron UWr was a little decent but tier 1?
>>46539205
Pro Tour Born of the Gods I think. UWR was tier one around that time.
>>46524097
>What's your deck.
Burn
>What are you brewing.
Maybe some creatures with prowess.
>Did the unban give you anything to do.
No. What was unbanned?
>Does me using periods instead of question marks trigger your autism.
No; it is still proper grammar even if you don't use question marks. They are informative, not required.
>>46539265
Ancestral Visions and Sword of the Meek were unbanned.
