Pathfinder General - /pfg/
Path of Explosions Edition
Unified /pfg/ link repository:
>http://pastebin.com/YhdxTQS6
Ultimate Intrigue leaks:
>classes: http://imgur.com/a/tlwEX
>feats: http://imgur.com/a/PA4eT
>items: http://imgur.com/a/RzJiF
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>>46512070
>not mithril fishnet stockings edition
>>46512070
>Path of Explosions
I didn't realize this was the Fantasy Craft General.
I turned body horror up to 11. My players are ever more uncomfortable. Things are going well.
>>46512139
My GM has been making me build Girdles of Gender Reversal to help build up the local kobold population.
HOW DO I STOP THE GENTLE CREEP OF MAGICAL REALM
>>46512070
>Evocation
>not Divination
Do you even paranoia and insomnia?
>>46512229
Blowing stuff up is more fun. Yeah, it's not as optimized, but god damn it I want to cast EXPLOSION!
>>46512226
Just say no?
>>46512070
What's the best blaster?
Wizard? Arcanist? Wilder? Alchemist?
>want to build a stalker
>find a cool thing that looks fun, start building for that
>find a different cool thing, alter build slightly
>keep finding new things, often conflicting, and have to make alternate builds to try different things
>suddenly have 6 different builds and can't decide which one I actually want
From unable to understand PoW to absolutely drowning in it in one big step.
So my GM is arguing that Vizier is overpowered because they can switch Essence between all their veils as a swift action. He says it's like how an arcanist can change their spells as a full round action, except that Vizier is capable of doing it all day. So he's proposed that in order to change essence between veils you can shift one point as a swift that provokes, or all points as a full round action that provokes. How do I tell him that this nerf is unnecessary without murdering him, causing him harm, insulting him, or leaving the game?
>>46512320
Welcome to the Path of War. It's a good feeling.
>>46512355
T B Q H (xD) do all of those at once.
>>46512246
Well, it's new stuff every week.
The Pit of Endless Feces was a neat challenge to overcome, but I question why it existed.
>>46512309
Probably not Alchemist, they're limited in times/day and variety of blast.
MaybeKineticistwith homebrew rules that let youtake as much burn as your pool has to increase damage dealt
>>46512391
Run.
>>46512355
Tall him he's fucking retarded as most of the Vizier's abilities are underwhelming as fuck
>>46512391
>this is literally your DM
>>46512309
Probably Arcanist. Potent Spells, hijack some bloodline arcana with Blood Arcanist, and you can make some pretty gnarly blasts that are hard to avoid.
>>46512413
He specifically cited the dragon breath veil and the one veil that increases fire damage as like a better burning hands but doable all day.
Hey guys, I just realized something. I've been trying to figure out how to make the "Phantom Thief" rogue archetype actually playable in a combat since it give up all combat ability. Then I realized it stacks with the "Hidden Blade" archetype from PoW:E.........thank you DSP
Any anons played Hell's Rebels before? What did you think of it and how much of it is urban?
>>46512476
Sometimes I think if a book came out with a wizard archetype that didn't need a spellbook and prepared like a cleric did and a fighter archetype that could hold its breath, climb, and swim all day without spending anything, some people would be more suspicious of the fighter archetype because ALL DAY.
>>46512070
>Path of Explosions
thank you anon
I now really want to make an Admixture Wizard like pic related
With skill ranks in Perform (air guitar)
MEEDLY MEEDLY MEEDLY MEEDLY MOOOOOOOWA
>>46512476
Does he understand that fire is the most commonly resisted element in the game?
Moreover does he understand how sorcerer blaster optimization works?
I saw some people talking about the marauder class, but when I poked around on the PFSRD I couldn't find it, can anyone link?
>>46512515
Haven't played it, but I have read it. It looks fun, and it's about 85% in an urban enviroment.
>>46512699
Do you mean the Fiendbound Marauder? It's an archetype of the PoW Warder from Path of War: Expanded.
>>46512578
Anybody who sees "all day blasting" and thinks "THIS IS OVERPOWERED" literally has no idea how the game actually works. Though I assume your question is rhetorical, and we're all clearly aware that his DM is a maroon.
Would this work in PF? (yes? / no?)
>>46512925
Eh, wouldn't think so.
>>46512925
No, pvp in 3.x is awful.
>>46512925
>>>/shadowrun/
>>46512925
Are you talking the PVP?
The organizations?
what?
Question too vague, more information needed.
>>46512951
>>46512968
Not the game itself. The setting and plot. Bunch of oddball specialists with their own talents working together to keep global peace against evil organizations, rogue AI warmechs, etc.
>>46512968
The memes, I'd wager.
>>46513043
You want >>46512965
Or possibly Eclipse Phase
>>46512925
No. You can't even stat half the cast.
Tracer's is easy (refluffed Harbinger) as is Hanzo, Widowmaker, and maybe Junkrat.
And then you've got D.VA, Bastion, Pharah, etc wherein you'll need PF to actually write a "sci-fi" content book.
>>46513065
Point of curiosity. How would Mutants and Masterminds work for that?
>>46512356
There's just so many fucking things, I don't know how to even choose, and I can't just fully build them all without fucking up the magic of preparing a character specifically for a particular group/campaign. So I'm stuck making all these character skeletons.
If Bushi let me pick my exotic weapons, I would totally do a Prodigious TWF Brutal Bushi with Bastard Swords and/or Falcatas, though. Don't even care that the feat tax is about the same as a dex-build, shit would be tight.
>>46513115
Was that not the technology guide?
>>46513139
From experience, M&M works for everything actually.
>>46513150
Its shit, just like everything else Paizo regurgitated after gorging on 3e's bloated corpse.
>>46513140
Yeah, man. I know that feel. So many fun toys to play with, so few games to actually play them in.
>>46512510
You're welcome.
Hey /pfg/, is there anything you can do with a character that has Blindsight 30? I'm trying to think of something, but short of always fighting in supernatural darkness I'm not coming up with anything.
>tfw waiting for ultimate intrigue pdf
>>46513465
Soon, anon. Soon.
>>46513465
Prepare for more disappointment!
>>46513435
What do you mean? What are the advantages of having Blindsight 30? Well, for starters, basically no one can sneak up on you ever, even invisible people. Also, gaze attacks are no problem for you to deal with, you can close your eyes and continue fighting without penalty.
Is Furious Focus actually a decent option for most initiators? While most of the strongest maneuvers are full attack+, there are plenty of single-hit ones that would certainly love the extra damage at the low cost of a single low-level feat.
>>46513480
What's the least disappointing part, in your opinion? The most disappointing part?
>>46513498
That's all defensive stuff though, nothing you can offensively use it for.
>>46513511
It's alright. I wouldn't call it necessary, but if you can fit it into your build and you want to use a lot of single attack strikes, it's helpful.
>>46512925
Pathfinder really isn't designed with pvp in mind-- it's a cooperative game. Classes are (mostly) built with the idea of resource management and taking down non-human foes of varying number and health in mind, while pvp stresses making builds that focus on high-damage, high-initiative characters to wipe out a similarly-leveled foe before they can act.
>>46513511
I'm not really sure full BAB types ever want Furious Focus, actually. It might be okay for a 3/4s BAB character, but I've been thinking about retraining it away on my magus for a long time. I can't imagine being an initiator with full BAB would endear me more to the feat.
I'm brand new to DMing and PF as a whole, but this is hella fun.
You guys know of any low-mid level critters that can swim and hopefully turn invisible? I know it's specific but I want to set up an ambush in the water.
>>46513521
>The most disappointing part?
Open a mainline Pathfinder RPG rulebook to the feats section.
That is the answer, 90% of the time.
>>46513563
An invisible Orc in the water wearing flippers.I'm serious
>>46513521
The end. I wanted the fey druid to be good, it wasn't, it was completely the antithesis of what I wanted from a CHA druid. I wanted the magical child to be good, it too was a major disappointment. The non-LG paladin was disappointing, the feats were disappointing. The disappointment actually manifested and punched me in the gut.
>all-Mesmerist party
Which Archetypes would you have, /pfg/? Four members, no two can use the same combination of Archetypes.
>>46513521
most disappointing is magical child for sure
What it should be is basically the transformation sequence and plug that into the Warlock archetype
Done, perfect archetype.
>>46512925
d. va is cute!
CUTE!
>>46513618
All vitalist.
>>46513618
All fey tricksters. Lots of kissing.
>>46513669
Yeah, that's true.But I like me some Zarya.
>>46513796
Mercy a best.
Best.
Especially with some of her skins (devil mercy).I bet she likes being fucked in the butt and holding hands, dirty healslut
>>46513820
She's like a peacock, though.
Pretty to look at, but that voice is just horrifying.
Quick question /PFG/, I was hoping to build up a silver-blade Myrmidon fighter, for funsies, but for the life of me, I cannot think of where I remember seeing a feat called stupendus strength. Where is that located?
>>46513829
I like her voice.
>>46513839
Pretty sure that's in DSP's monster class document. Don't have a link handy, though.
Grey Paladin is CUTE! CUTE!Smiting Neutral foe is a nice skill to have, I don't really care about Divine Grace
>>46512244
Some of the most fun I've had in Pathfinder has been my maxed out Crossblooded fire Sorcerer, using Words of Power. Not nearly at the level of power that a mage in this system can be, but hell if isn't an absolute blast setting everything in sight on fire. I don't even have to think about it, just pick a slot-appropriate fire word, and whichever target words seems most interesting at the moment.
Occasionally, I'll get really fancy and leave behind a cloud of smoke ("fog" cloud my ass) after burning the shit out of everything.
>>46513618
Mesmerist (Fey Trickster)
Mesmerist (Vox)
Mesmerist (Eyebiter)
Mesmerist (Enigma)
>>46513910
I wanna run a sorcerer / War mage of krynn / and two prestige classes to turn all my spells to fire damage to divine damage. For maximum explosions, of course.
>>46512356
I've managed to settle on a War Soul Psychic Armory, using Unorthodox Training to grab some nifty Elemental Flux stances and boosts. The game hasn't started yet, but I'm really looking forward to it.
She severed her own shadow (Umbral Unmasking), forged it into a bunch of swords, and charges them with elemental energy before hurling them across the battlefield at whatever has annoyed her the most lately.
>>46513618
Probably aWitch with the Trickster patron and Improved Familiar to have a Psyche Serpent.
>>46513409
My local GM has been running a pure-crunch dungeon crawl for a while to learn the system. I'm normally not into that sort of game (I prefer at least an attempt at a story and some RP), but I wanted the excuse to hang out with friends that I didn't get to see very often. Literally the only redeeming feature of that game (other than the aforementioned hanging out with friends) was that I could switch out my character whenever I felt like it, to get a few sessions in of all the cool builds I've been dying to try out.
He's decided to start over and try a more story-based game, so it looks like I'm gonna have to stick with one character for a while. I hope he doesn't suck at it, or it's gonna be a rough campaign.
I like to make my 'wands' as pieces of stone, that are then mounted onto a grip, with a trigger, a trigger guard and sights. The completion word is usually "Pewpewpew" and the action is the squeezing of the trigger.
The blocks the spells are cast on, are small rectangles, and are somewhat interchangeable. Identified by a rune and coloration. I prefer ray spells, particularly scorching ray.
These "wands" are masterwork quality.
Overall the whole thing looks like a pistol. Image related.staves are rifles
>>46513541
Hey DSP guy is there any reason the hidden blade doesn't get steel serpent maneuvers? It's all poisony, seems like a perfect fit for rogues.
I just played as a Vitalist for the first time. Why did no one tell me they were the funnest class?
>Team speak within 600' at level 5
>Can heal or buff the entire party at once, allowing a true "white mage" playstyle
>Can transfer wounds to myself
>Can steal HP from enemies
>Can see through other people's senses within my hive mind
>Can remove mental compulsions in my hive mind
I have never seen so coordinated a party. I can't imagine how horrifying this would be in a dungeon crawl.
>>46514290
Any class with a collective lends itself to a leader-like organizer, leaving swathes of coordination in its path. The upcoming Stratego soulknife looks awesome, though I wish dearly it was an archetype, so it wasn't only just coming online at 6th or 7th.
Don't hide it from me, /pfg/.
Tell me about yourbest pun-based tavern names.
>>46514327
>upcoming Stratego soulknife looks awesome
Huh?
>>46514358
My world has a chain of taverns, with two D6s on the sign, with a different roll on each one.
They're called thePair-o'-Dice Inn
>>46512244
Cataclysm is my favourite Destruction Talent.
>>46514368
>mfw all the other kids insisted that bigger numbers won
JUST
>>46514358
>Run by priests of any god with alcohol in his/her portfolio
The Tavernacle Choir.
>Also known for egg dishes
The Ogre Easy.
>Run by rogues
The Sneakeasy.
>The bartender doubles as a fence
The Knothole.
>Run by Grippli
The Wartering Hole.
My friends and I have been meeting once a week for Pathfinder games.
Right now we're just doing a beginner's set to learn the game. After this we'll be making new characters and doing a new quest.
I really want to make a hobbit. Any advice for that?
>>46512309
Spheres Elementalists are pretty cash with the Destroyer Handbook.
>>46514469
Well, there are halflings in the game. Might start there. What exactly is it you want said hobbit to do?
>>46514469
PATH OF WAR AND PSIONICS NO VANCIAN CASTING
>>46514469
Halfling cavalier, rides a dog and uses a lance. It is awesome.
>>46514469
Try the Lord of the Rings roleplaying game called The One Ring. It is really good.
>>46514469
>I really want to make a hobbit. Any advice for that?
Halflings are literally, literally hobbits with the name changed to avoid legal trouble.
>>46514564
>Halflings are literally, literally hobbits
I know which is why I just used Hobbit instead of Halfing.
>>46514502
I'm still pretty new to Pathfinder but I want to make a character that's a really good thief, and con artist. Also I found out there's guns in Pathfinder which is something that interests me.
>>46514358
Not a pun but I once inserted strabucks into a planar campaignthere was one on every other corner in most planar cities
>>46514618
Sounds like you want to play a swashbuckler, which is a class that combines charm, bravado an firearms under a rogue chassis.
>>46514713
T O P K E K
>>46514713
M i d d l i n g K e k
>>46514290
Because you didn't listen.
YOU NEVER DO, DO YOU?
Seriously. people on /pfg/ have extolled the Vitalist for quite some time.
>>46514713
m a y b e
j u s t
a
l i t t l e
k e k
?
>>46514327
>The Roll20 map is filled to the brim with enemies
>The gnashing hordes cometh
>Bladed Collective
>Share Discipline Shapes
>There are now eight heavy machineguns on the field
>Remove Kebabs
>Remove Kebabs
>>46514990
>Strategos 10
>You have 10 friends
>10 attacks per full attack if focus expended
Pic unrelated, it just made me laugh
>>46515058
Sauce, my sibling of afro-american decent?
>>46515220http://www.hersheys.com/twizzlers/
>>46515259
Thanks bro, sometimes a dude's just gotta get hissnackon.
>>46515220
Pretty sure it's muv-luv.
And not the first one with the happy ends.
>>46514290
That's nothing. Wait til you gestalt Vitalist + Tactician.
>>46514618
Ignore >>46514713. Swashbuckler is a pretty poor class, both in terms of mechanical design (a bunch of the actions it can take conflict with each other) and in power level.
How does marriage occur in your settings /pfg/? Are there any rituals? Dowries? Do PC's get propositioned by important individuals?
>>46514358
>tavern on the docks frequented by tough and salty sailorsKraken Knuckles
So.
I want a big sword to do big cleaving and smiting. Bonus points for TWO big swords for double the cleave and smites.
How do I go about perfecting this cleave and smite monster?
>>46514327
>Stratego soulknife
Where?! Where!?!?!?!?
>>46515840
>smiting
Two weapon fighting paladin is good for smiting
>cleaving
Barbarian is good for cleaving
>Some mixture of both
Uh... Path of War?
>>46515844
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XZ7YUgvH7vgDqJvJs8vaQYCPV6K6wh8YAbW_ElFUHX4/edit
It's a Soulknife PrC with a collective, telepathy, and the ability to loan out weapons (and, if you have the bladeskills, armour, shields, what-have-you.)
>>46515840
>>46515882
Building off what the first reply mentioned, you want Path of War has to offer; there's an archetype that trades out spellcasting (let's face it, paladin spells are lackluster anyhow) for limited initiating.
Frankly, Cleave sucks ass. You're better off using a strike that grants two attacks than burning a feat on it, and the easiest way to use Two Big Swords is the Stupendous Strength feat + Prodigious Two-Weapon Fighting feat + Two-Weapon Fighting + Thrashing Dragon maneuvers. Trait out of Silver Crane or something.
I should note, this does remove Smite Evil, but you get other abilities that are thematically the same, so you're fine - and if you insist on Actually Using Smites, you can always just take the Martial Training line on a regular Paladin in Primal Fury for giga-smiting action.
And if you're going that second route, you'd better go Nightguard. Nothing like expanding from Smite Evil to Smite Non-Good.
Witch aka Cackle: The Class
Is there a more boring class in Pathfinder? This is why Paizo doesn't like at-will magic, because when they make it it turns into Witch
what classes have the best lvl 2 abilities?
>>46516026
Because every witch takes evil eye and cackle.
>>46516026
Prehensile hair is awesome, and White-Haired Witch is one of the coolest archetypes Paizo's ever published.
>>46516048
Level 2 wizard
Say I have some extra gold and want to turn a large city from a shit-hole loser place into a modern metropolis. How do I do this? Playing a monk, so I have basically no character power. only money to spend.
>>46516084
maybe you didnt understand the question. there isnt really much difference between a lvl 1 and 2 wizard.
>>46516048
Psions get their first Discipline ability at 2nd, some of those are neat or handy.
>>46516118
Alchemists get a Discovery at 2nd level. Some of those discoveries stay useful like a vestigial arm
>>46516048
Inquisitors actually get a big chunk of good class features at 1st and 2nd level
What would be a reason to have no faith in a setting where god(s) exist and not believing in god may be penalized? (like Wall of the Faithless in FR)
Well, beside plain stupidity, I mean.
>>46516185
TUMOR FAMILIAR
>>46516229
For MAXIMUM EDGE
>>46516229
>>46516238
no, you fool. much like a wizard, your tumor familiar won't level up if you don't continue advancing your alchemist level.
>>46516355
"ITS NOT A TOOMAH!"
>>46516229
My last character did not worship the CURRENT pantheon. He was worshipping the coming of his God whose name has long been forgotten and the only hint of his coming is the destruction of the current pantheon (Granted, I played in an all evil campaign)
What do you suppose the least popular class is
It's probably slayer, right?
>>46516229
It's stupid to believe gods don't exist in a setting where clerics and things run around.
What your character can believe slightly more sensibly is that the whole religion system is skewed and gods don't deserve worship from people just because they've got the biggest pointy sticks in the neighborhood.
>>46516447
wizard
>>46516447
brawler
>>46516447
Shaman
>>46516229
>What would be a reason to have no faith in a setting where god(s) exist
Where is your proof these things are truly gods worthy of worship, and not simply very powerful beings that demand tribute and give power to others?
Beyond that, how do you prove they even exist outside of divine intervention? You know the difference between divine and arcane casting because of game mechanics, but how do you prove those distinctions within the setting itself?
Just because all kinds of crazy monsters and otherworldy beings exist doesn't mean they're gods and not simply beings that exist in another world.
>>46516447
Ones that don't really do anything that interesting despite claiming to, like the non-Shaman hybrid classes and probably Medium.
>>46516447
All occult classes are unpopular
>>46516511
Shaman though is awesome if you ask me.Go Speaker for the Past / Heavens and try it out.
>>46516538
They're not unpopular, they're just new
besides psychic which is kinda boring they all have their very hardcore proponents, they're the cult fanbase of classes
>>46516530
>Implying Hunter didn't basically replace Ranger IMMEDIATELY upon release.
>>46516530
swasbuckler is cool, as is investigator
>>46515754Stolen
>>46513637
Why the warlock - what does it get and what does the MC get that doesn't work?
>>46513867
Eh, the paladin is passable even without Divine Grace (though damn is it nice). Can you be a NG grey pally of a CG deity, btw?
>>46514618
There is a rogue class that is meant to simulate this, but it isn't all that great. The Unchained Rogue update is better - still not great, but quite handy. If you do not mind having a bit of magic on the side, the bard class is quite good - it is somewhat of a jack of all trades, but it has quite a few tricks related to messing with people, and can easily work for a very decent sneaksman. If you want to use archetypes, consider the archeologist and the sandman - they lose a bit of party utility, but become better at traps, sneaking and the like..
Investigator and slayer can also work, though slayer is more backstabber than con-man.
>>46512226
Wizards: No sense of right and wrong
Also: What the fuck GM?
>>46512226
Wow transmisogynist much?
>>46514465
>The Knothole.
Anon...
>>46515840
Literally just smite with a two-handed sword. Smite as you cleave. Or if you really wanna cleave enemies in two grab Spirited Charge and a greatswordthough strictly a lance is better
Is there a half-decent way to make Finesse with longswords happen from the character's training and not effortless lace? I can only think of Slashing Grace with Swashbuckler levels and Fighter levels with Fighter's Finesse.
>>46517652
You could use an undersized longsword, as a light weapon.
>>46517652
>longsword
but why, it's a shit weapon
>>46517652
I'm pretty sure there's a PoW feat for that. Or possibly a 3.5 one.
Lets say that if I was doing an epic level campaign, and I had maxed out a warpriest character, what would my next class be? I would rather not continue as a Warpriest.
My initial thoughts went with an Eldritch Knight instead of a Magus because I really want BAB. I've been feeling sort of lost in this nasty middle ground as a Warpriest where I just feel useless in certain situations, especially when things resort to close up fighting and I lack both attack bonus and damage from my martial weapon.
Maybe one of you guys can help me out. Still a noob at all this.
>>46517652
The mithral-whatever fighter archetype from Lords of the Wild?
>>46517943
Your self buffs should be making up for the difference. Also see if you can retrain into the archetype that gives weapon training; huge boost right there.
Monk maybe? Pretty fun with double bloodcrow strike for two full attacks. Then again, you probably want to keep up the casting... but it's not like low level magus stuff is going to be that helpful. Your swift actions are already overcrowded as is.
... could a Magus/ punchy Warpriest get 3 full attacks with spellcombat+bloodcrow strike+quickened bloodcrow strike?
>>46518000
>Monk maybe?
Unchained Monk seemed like an interesting alternative maybe. Casting felt like a more reasonable option as I would make myself useful in both fields, but I can see myself sticking with divine and just punching people the fuck out.
>>46512925
I want to ____ D. Va!
Are there any rules for falling stealthily in pathfinder?
>>46514618
>I found out there's guns in Pathfinder which is something that interests me.
Guns are bad, don't bother with them. Unless you have access to advanced firearms or classes that can actually make them function well.
>>46514260
I remember I asked this question.Working from memory here, and my memory has a history of being meh.
Hidden Blade by default is meant to be more swashbuckler puckish rogue than assassin. Poison isn't their jam.
>>46517071
Outside of PFS, yes. Paladkn dont need gods anyway.
For PFS, no. Because JJ wouldn't allows you to touch his perfect CG goddess.
>>46516588
Hasn't for me or anyone I know. 3/4 BAB pet-focused partial spellcaster =/= full BAB nature-themed facepuncher.
I hate my DM.
We finished a quest and aquired money from the governor. Nothing special.
The abandoned castle we tried to buy was in the middle of a forest, built in the valley. The trees that were taller then the walls were not removed at all, and they couldn't grow back because the castle was abandoned only for three years.
When we tried to restore it, every single caravan with building materials we sent was eaten by wolves, despite the fact that it was heavily guarded.
When we finally used magic to restore the castle, a seven thousand strong army of the local warrior cult appeared and conquered the castle. They never bothered to attack anything else.
We escaped, but were found and executed. No one told us why.
>>46518500
sounds like your gm doesnt want you to have a homebase, but rather than be mature and tell you, he is railroading you
bring it up with him
>>46518500
>random wolves for no rasin
>random armies attacking
God damn that's some bull shit, talk with your gm and if he doesn't admit to that being bull shit and start to work on fixing this, then I would suggest leaving because that is not something you put up with as a player.
>>46518365
>Paladkn
>Palakin
>Paladin-Kin
Now I'm imagining 16 year olds asserting that their TRUE self is a stalwart defender of good and light.
>>46518561
I have a buddy exactly like that, except he's 21 year old.
>>46518561
You mean there are people who don't want to be stalwart champions of justice and righteousness?
>>46518500
Convince the governor that having a 7k strong enemy army stationed in a heavily fortified position protected by mind controlled wolves 30 minutes away may not be the best for regional safety, and to pay you vast sums of cash and troops to solve the problem. As a new party. Who witnessed the rampant incompetence and executions.
>>46518620
And then the gm panics and the dragon swarm attacks.
>>46518615
You misunderstand.
These are the people who insist they ARE already, not those that want to be.
>>46518561
The Sikh religion was created by an Indian paladinkin chuuni
>>46518615
>you will never have the courage to raise arms against the forces of Evil and stand as a beacon of hope
Why even live?
>>46519070
To learn how to man up and stand up to be that beacon.
>>46519070
I, personally, try to be the closest to the ideal as I can ever be.
That's what got me into volunteering and charity. Totally worth it.
>>46519070
Anon, don't stand up for the light and godly things, stand up for your race against the foreign hordes and build wall
>>46517356
There's something incredibly lewd about it, don't you think?
>>46519924
No not really
>>46518620
It's not heavily fortified. It's piss-poor fortified, no one builds a fucking fortress at the lowest point of the region AND doesn't clear the vegetation so anyone can sneak/march straight to the walls without being hit by arrows and not even bother bringing siege ladders and towers.
Lads, tell me about your custom races.I'm currently building a tougher race of catfolk and I want to hear how you guys have used the race builder for your custom settings or custom campaigns.
My players will be traveling through a chilly boreal forest for a while, tracking another group that they are chasing down. I've got a table made for random encounters but I don't want it to just be combat over and over. What non-combat stuff can I throw in to keep things interesting? I've already got a couple run ins with some hunters in the area, but that's just a chance to talk with a stranger, it might not be very interesting.
>>46520070Pleasant cottage inhabited by lone woman, is later revealed to be Huldra.
Party must navigate the delicate issue of revealing they know she's a Huldra without actually saying it, otherwise she turns into an encounter. If they succeed, she provides the party a place to stay for the night and *might* even take a fancy to one of the PCs.
>>46520070
>>46520133
Why does everyone get this wrong? Huldra don't hide and aren't ashamed of their status as fey, it's just when you point out their tails or call them troll-wives that you draw aggro.
>>46520048
>using Race Builder
>ever
>>46520152
Failed knowledge rolls.
>>46520048
I tried to make a custom race for BB-8, but it turns out that making a race without limbs or items slots a shit. I might work on it a bit more, I feel like it could still work.
Maybe if weapons were converted to shell plating, throw on some SLA's like Spark in place of that little lighter it had. It's just a pain to figure out because no arms.
>>46520152
They're not ashamed of being fey, but they certainly do try to hide it (hence their name, Hulder, which means covered or hidden.)
They don't like the tail or back getting brought up because it breaks the illusion, that the man or woman knows they're hulder.
>>46520253
Not in PF though.
>>46520152
>Huldra don't hide and aren't ashamed of their status as fey
Their name literally means hidden, though.
Their entire thing is looking human, but not being human.
At least that's the only consistent theme for the Huldra, their behavior changes depending on the century or region talking about them; sometimes they're seductive forest spirits that reward men who can satisfy them sexually, others are cruel malicious assholes that lure humans into caves, others are tough working-wives that find love (and humanity) in the arms of woodsmen.
What kind of shenanigan can I do with Daring General?
I want to be Faiiya Emburemu Lord.
>>46520179
![[menacing].gif](https://i.imgur.com/kxl4KbJ.gif "[menacing].gif")
>>46519419
But anon, walls never work!Just ask the Chinese.
Has an initiating Bloodrager been discussed yet? Or did I miss the train and it's either been shot down or already made?
>>46520753
IT HAS BEEN BURNT TO ASHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES nah I'm kidding.
It's been discussed in internal and a couple of our writers have ideas for it. It's not exactly a /priority/ at the moment, but it'll happen at some juncture.
I dunno if anon has tried one yet or not but if they have I'm certain someone will post it.
>>46518500
Smack your DM with the books until he apologizes.
>>46518500
Beat his face in until he agrees to stop being a faggot or dies.
>>46520179
>>46521884
WHAT ARE THOOOOOOOOOOOOSE
Seriously, what's the gauntlet do? And why does she carry a pleb-tier perpendicular-blade scythe?
/pfg/, I decided to put a railroad in Andoran. The set-up is that the Lumber Consortium and the government of Andoran, with the aid of dwarvish and Druman investors and hired engineers from Alkenstar hoping to test the concept before implementing it in the Mana Wastes with some features that will keep the railroad from getting wrecked by wild magic storms, have been constructing this series of rails for the past year, with the aim of decreasing overland freight costs of lumber and other goods. The lines from Darkmoon Vale and the Verduran Forest are most important, and the line heading to Highhelm through the mountain (and eventually to Druma though construction of the tunnel hasn't been completed yet). This also highly increases the rate at which the forests are being logged, bringing fey and druidic relations to a boiling point as the Lumber Consortium gains more influence over the government. I've got a few things I'd like feedback on though.
Does this amount of work seem believable, or should I scale it back a few years? I was also thinking that a Lyre of Building could have been involved at some point to help speed up construction.
Like other early trains, they can carry passengers but that's not where the bulk of their profit comes from. How much should I charge PCs for overland travel on the train per mile? Would it be only slightly more expensive than cabs and carriages at about 5 copper pieces a mile, or more expensive than that?
Does it make sense to connect to Triela or Cassomir? Would Triela's importance as a destination for log drivers diminish with the arrival of the train, or would they work in conjunction? The Cassomir connection was mostly an afterthought, seeing as it's so close to the border and the governor of the town apparently wanted to improve relations with Andoran (Grand Prince Stavian III will cack it halfway through the campaign so this might lead into an annexation in the ensuing political struggles.)
Am I the only one who thinks it's weird that the Vigilante's two identities ACTUALLY have two different alignments, instead of the PC having one alignment like normal and appearing to all sorts of alignment-detection effects as if he were whatever other alignment when in his other identity?
It strikes me as unusual that taking a minute to psych yourself up and change your identity would actually change your alignment. It's like you're not just hiding your identity with a costume, you're actually swapping personas, like there are two people in your body that you pass control between. Is that the intention?
I can't stop building enemy NPC's with gimmicks, send help
nobody that plays this game is smart enough to fight anything that doesn't just rush in and claw/claw/bite so I'm wasting my time
>>46522333
>It's like you're not just hiding your identity with a costume, you're actually swapping personas, like there are two people in your body that you pass control between. Is that the intention?
That's how it works for Batman, so yes.
>>46522321
You say 'railroad' and all I can think of is Gunsmoke Mystics and Desperado Warlords on horseback hijacking the train.
>>46522375
Is that really how it works for Batman? He's actually two different people who happen to be sharing a body and have similar goals?
>>46522321
>I decided to put a railroad in Andoran.
Does the train have an eagle on the front?
It better have a fucking eagle on the front.
>>46522401
He's actually three different people. The third person thinks he's an alien, and was created as a backup personality that takes over in case the other two are mind-controlled.
>>46522333
I don't take it as outright multiple personalities, though I guess it could be played that way.
I'd say it's more an allowance for actions taken in either identity to not drag the character around the alignment chart. Bruce Wayne can be a dumb rich party boy and do stupid chaotic shit all day, but Batman can remain neutral good no matter how far Bruce goes.Yeah yeah Batman alignment arguments fuck off
Or, in my personal case, my social identity can be literally just a smart bat that does bat stuff smartly, while the vigilante identity is an actual adventurer. WEREBATKIN STRONK, WHERE MY SHAPESHIFTERS AT, KITSUNE GIRLS HOLLA
>>46522450
Well, yeah.
The Screaming Eagle sounds like a cool engine name, actually.
>>46522453
I don't know if that's genius or fucking stupid.
>>46522302
The gauntlet is part of a set the GM invented called the Invoiker's Regalia. Each piece has its own capabilities, but with every part attained, each piece upgrades its bonuses and unlocks a new set of abilities.
>Invoker's Gauntlet: +3 Ghost Touch, Spell Storing, Spell Stealing; grants ghost touch weapons held. By spending one mythic point, the user sheathes a spell in a thin layer of force, essentially granting spells the Ghost Touch property. Additionally, if the user identifies a spell being cast with spellcraft and that spell is stored in the gauntlet, the user can automatically succeed at a counterspell. This consumes the spell. If a mythic point is spent, the spell is not consumed.
>Invoker's Robes: +4 Int, +5 bonus to Spellcraft, Kc: Arcana, and UMD. Every times the user casts a spell, the robes have a 25% chance to spawn a Mirror Image. This lasts a number of minutes equal to the original spell level of the spell cast; the image may also be expended as a free action to "re-cast" the spell at 50% effectiveness, as if cast by Shadow Evocation, Shadow Conjuration, etc.
The Scythe is her Arcane Bonded object. Sadly it's presently a mere +1 Silversheen scythe. Haven't really had the opportunity to upgrade it during the course of the campaign as of yet since I needed to be sure the rest of the party was tip-top.After this story arc though, everyone's going to have to wait for me to get Elsbeth's gear finally taken care of; been neglected for too long.
>>46522481
But that's what I'm saying, the fact that the two identities both actually have an alignment of their own means that they both seem to have their own personality. It would make more sense if the PC had his own alignment and then detected (but wasn't actually) as a different, chosen alignment in is other identity.
I don't think it allows for actions of one identity to not move the other character around the alignment table. From my understanding of how the class works, if your social identity is CG and your Vig identity is CN, and you do something as a Vig that changes your alignment one step towards evil, it affects BOTH alignments, making your social CN and vig CE. Your social identity and vig identity can't be two steps apart from each other.
>Join online game
>Middle of game
>Everyone talks offtopic about <subject>
>Share my opinion and say <Subject> is gay
>Everyone suddenly outraged that I said "gay" in negative manner.
>Realize that I'm in an all gay group
>Awkward session when I suddenly realize all the really gay things everyone's done throughout the campaign
>Offhanded mill worker flirting wasnt a joke
>Everyone dressing up in attire that would be considered "gay parade" material wasnt a joke
>Banter from one of the party members that one time was actually him hitting on me
>Realize every character is either some sort of bara or twink archetype
Playing online is really really weird you guys
>>46522584
>using a farming scythe and not a military scythe
Why do DMs allow this
>>46522611
>I don't think it allows for actions of one identity to not move the other character around the alignment table. From my understanding of how the class works, if your social identity is CG and your Vig identity is CN, and you do something as a Vig that changes your alignment one step towards evil, it affects BOTH alignments, making your social CN and vig CE. Your social identity and vig identity can't be two steps apart from each other.
Yeah, but that's in the case where the identities move towards opposite sides of the alignment chart. I'm talking about the two sticking to two sides that share a corner (CN and NG, LN and NE) and being free to go as deep as they want on one aspect of alignment, but then drop it entirely when the identities switch.
The sums-to-LG vigilante can be good OR be lawful at any given time, but will never have the paladin's issue where the two conflict.
>>46522644
>>Realize every character is either some sort of bara or twink archetype
Are you sure that wasn't just a /pfg/ game?
>>46522644
>shocked that gay folks exist and enjoy being gay
>declares them "really weird"
What're you, some kind of faggot?
>>46522658
>using a scythe at all
>magic and monsters existing
>gold coins being common enough to be the standard on which everything is priced, and something people can toss 1000's of around without completely ruining the global economy
wow I bet these people don't even have rules for dying of some random disease at 20, fuckin unrealistic assholes
>>46522644
You think you have it bad? I spent like a year nursing a vague crush on a girl in my online group before finding out she was MtF trans.And that's how I became bisexual, ayyy
>>46522690
(You)
>>46522644
This is the world we live in now, Anon. Everyone wants to worship faggots and faggot culture has taken over every social hobby.
>>46522775
Oh shush.
Is Scrying REALLY that good considering the 1 hour casting time, the Will save, the spell resistance, the short duration, being blocked by lead, and the DC 24 Perception check to notice the sensor?
>>46522584
>forgot to add because I'm a jackass
The GM has a Regalia set for each party member, in addition to a "Legacy" item, weapon, and/or set. Elsbeth's Legacy set she's been collecting are the Six Mourning Princesses, which are a set of six Elven Curved Blades. Each sword is a +2 with some encryption; each sword has a unique ability, but that ability is locked away until certain conditions are met. Of the one's Elsbeth has collected thus far:
>Daybreak: Three times per day, when unsheathing this blade, the wielder can command it to blind all targets facing her (Reflex DC 16) that are within 40 feet. Targets effected are blind for 1d4 rounds and dazzled for an equal number of rounds after.
>Dusk: Teleport to Dusk or Dusk to user anywhere so long as the two are on the same plane; Free Action
>Dawnstar: N/A - yet to be awakened; Needs to strike 10 enemies affected by illusionary effects (a bit ambiguous on specifics) and/or while the user benefits from an Insight bonus to attacks.
>Moonlight: N/A - yet to be awakened; Slay 10 Zombies (minimum of half the user's HD), then heal at least half maximum HP from a single source.
So yeah. If anyone's wondered why the hell the Wizard is carrying around curved blades.
>>46522810
It is if your scrying a normie or shitty wizard, otherwise you better have their hair or blood or its tough shit for you.
>>46522810
>Not scrying on the henchman, spy, servant or whatever other plant you have on the enemy base.
Alternatively I usually just scry on the party rogue who wants to do his XXLoneAssassinXX bit or scry on the enemy that somehow managed to escape after my summoned monster took a bite out of him.
>>46522810
I don't think many people really use Scrying the spell much in the long run, but rather scrying the effect as rendered at-will and with no casting time via stuff like crystal balls.
>http://www.archivesofnethys.com/MagicWondrousDisplay.aspx?FinalName=Crystal%20BallNormal
>>46522644
>Playing online is really really weird you guys
Got a group friends that call everything gay derogatively, and half of them are straight and a quarter of them gay. People have fun and enjoy playing everything together without giving a shit about politics or what people do in bed.
I feel bad for you son, I got 99 problems but a shit group ain't one.Though to be honest it sounds like you're part of the problem even if they're worse. And not because you said gay as an insult, that's the most normal thing in your post.
>>46522965
>Talks about 4E
>Suggest the current campaign be converted to 4E
I feel that me saying "4E is a poofters game" was completely justified.
>>46522868
>Not scrying on the henchman, spy, servant or whatever other plant you have on the enemy base.
Everyone else can still notice the sensor with a DC 24 Perception check.
>>46523074
That's not really a concern, though. Point of scrying is usually to find out where people are and/or get a visual lock for teleport, not to explicitly spy on them. At most, you're wanting to see who's around them, and them seeing that they're being scryed isn't gonna deny you that knowledge.
Any information you could get via eavesdrop-scrying is just as easily obtainable through other divinations.
>>46523152
Ultimate Intrigue says Scrying doesn't work for getting a lock on teleports.
>Scrying can be enormously useful for a spy, if the circumstances all align well for the scryer, but it isn’t particularly useful on its own for a potential teleport. The 10-foot-radius visual requires the target to move in order to provide a clear idea of the layout of the destination, and the spell doesn’t directly indicate the location. The PCs must use contextual clues to figure this out, unless they already know where the target is.
>>46523074
Thats why you target normies. Not everyone will have HD ranks in perception and even then only people whos specific duty it is to keep watch take 10 on their perception checks.
And even if they did notice, big deal? Does Hammus the gardener have ranks in knowledge: arcana? I think not.
>>46523224
The guy you REALLY want intel on is going to notice the scrying sensor by taking 10 on Perception.
>>46523207
No, it says that you may have to derive the location from context clues. That's generally not too hard once you've gotten a glance at the sight via scrying, given that you're a divination caster.
The GM can shut you down by saying there's not enough to go on, of course, but what else is new?
>>46523259
You can't take 10 on a check you don't know you're making. In fact, you take a -5 to Perception checks for being distracted.
And motherfucking Karzoug only has a +22 to his Perception, he'd fail to notice a 7th level scrub scrying on him while he works seven times out of twenty. You can say whatever you like about villains you yourself make, but stuff in pre-written modules is not that hard to get over on.
>>46523366
>You can't take 10 on a check you don't know you're making.
[citation needed]
>>46520070
Snowdrifts. Deep ones.
a sudden 30ft drop into a crevasse of snow is dangerous.
>>46522795
>>46522823
He's kind of got a point, you know.
When's the last time you actually encountered a genuine manly character in tabletop?
>>46523603
Often, quite often.
>>46522644
Is this like, your first session or something?
Because if it's the first session I'd totally just drop out, since it seems like things are just going to get weirder.
If it's like the fifth session and you've established your character, I'd just see how things have gone and where you think they're going and make a rational decision that way.
>>46523636Bara doesn't count as manly, anon.
>>46523603
Maybe this is why most male characters in Paizo works are either evil, horribly underdeveloped or flagrant homosexuals.
Because they simply don't understand what a man is.
>>46523680
Bara is the manliest thing imaginable.
>>46523649
I've been rolling with them for around 2 months before I caught onto the whole gay thing.
I feel really stupid now and dropping out would pretty much prove my case against me so I've decided to stick around and be willfully oblivious to their gay antics.
So this is it. A shitty little players guide to my super special OC donut steel campaign. Check it out if you're interested. I was doing a big ass flavorful essay thing about the setting, but then realized there really is little point in explaining a generic background setting that will have little impact on the story.
It is just about the dawn of the Middle Ages in the continent of Eulith, where the chaos and barbarism brought about by the fall of the Aurum Empire is coming to an end. You, THE PLAYERS, are part of an expedition sailing across the Great Ocean into mystery, one of six expeditions to celebrate the one hundred year anniversary of the Kingdom's founding.
It's post-Roman empire colonialism.
Over time, you'll play as your descendants, time-skipping forward. So there will be waifus. There will be kingdom building. There will be mass warfare.
If you are interested, fire off a character sheet to my Skype@ Tender Moment. It should be fun.
This is my first time GMing online, so uh, I'm not 100% sure how I'll be running it. Open to suggestions.
>>46523603
...All the damn time? What are you even talking about?
>>46523603
Manliest character ever.
>>46523753
Isn't Bara just an overemphasis on muscles and traditional manly things, to the point it becomes their defining feature?
Bara is a bit different than being a pretty manly dude.
>>46523772
>I feel really stupid now and dropping out would pretty much prove my case against me so I've decided to stick around and be willfully oblivious to their gay antics.
Bruh, there's nothing wrong with "proving them right" because the end-result of them being proved right is you moving on with your life, them moving on with your life, and neither of you ever really seeing the aftermath of it all.
Sticking it through means putting up with their gay antics until you eventually snap, which will happen sooner rather than later and will most likely result in their point being proven even harder.
>>46523885
Kurgess is like the manliest thing ever.
>>46523845
this guy looks like the Zapp Branigan of golarion
>>46523924
Kurgess is not manly because of his glistening muscles or massive dick.
Kurgess is manly because he's an honest team-player who respects the rules and pushes people to achieve their full potential.
>>46523979
And does so by raising morale with his glistening muscles and massive dick.
