Only an honest statblock will set you free.Stat me, /tg/http://bloodborne.wiki.fextralife.com/Lady+Maria+of+the+Astral+Clocktower
>>46511981
+1 watches Kill La Kill
>>46512457
That's fair.
>>46511981
60 vitality
25 endurance
10 strength
45 skill
45 bloodtinge
9 arcane
>>46512894
Translate that to D&D 5e, add in some Class Features/Feats, and we'll be all finished.
>>46512894
actually, 15 arcane
>>46512917
lol DnD
idfk
class Ranger
level idgaf
something something hitdice
16 con
18 dex
10 str
the other stats don't apply
fuck yourself
>>46511981
fair maiden / 10
>>46512970
Thanks.
>>46513052
I gave it my best shot
>>46512457
I don't get it.
I've seen the picture, but I still don't get it.
>>46513200
Something something edgy something something girl power something something crazy weapons
>>46512917
I'm not doing your homework for you.
>>46511981
Owlbear in powdered wig and tricorn hat. I'll be generous and give you +1 to AC.
>>46513200
She fights with sword made of blood, and blood is a big deal in Kill La Kill
>>46511981
Infinitely cooler than we'll ever be/10
>>46511981
She shouldn't work but the set-up, the arena, and the music really did it.
>>46514645
Shouldn't work?
>>46512457
>>46515361
>bumping a stat me thread
>>46514707
She's easy fight. Think DaS1 Gwyn (with parry).
>>46515375
>whining
>>46511981
No, you're thinking work.
Honest work will set you free.
>>46515678
Oops, my mistake. Nothing to see here.
>>46515375
>statting a bump me thread
>>46511981
Something from The Book of Nine Swords for 3.5 or Path of War for PF.
>>46511981
Not as cute as the doll, but way hotter
>>46514582
Wouldnt that be kyokai no kanata?
>>46517123
Doll is for pure love, Maria is for (sexual) bullying
>>46517174
Maria a cute ! Cute !
>>46514582
The sword isn't made of blood, she just uses her blood on the sword to reinforce the attacks.
>>46517174
Actually doll is for motherly love specifically and only.
That's why Gherman's so sexually frustrated.
>>46517174
Is she the one doing the bullying ?
>>46517277
absolutelyNOT
>>46517299
That's more a gang-rape than a bullying, there.
>>46517424
B U L L Y
the
P U F F Y
P U S S Y
>>46512931
Old Hunters use Quickening naturally without the use of The Old Hunter's Bone (which is most likely Maria's bone btw) so she might not need the 15 arcane.
>>46517299
fucking blue jojo posing outeruniversal broccoli
-10 hp
Crimson Countess Harbinger with Elemental Flux.
>>46517174
>pizza girl
Does she have really bad acne or something?
>>46517437
...this is why I want for there to be no limit on the number of pebbles you can carry...
I want to watch someone beat a boss by throwing them...
>>46511981
Here you go, OP.
Ability Score / 10
4 Strength
6 Constitution
5 Vitality
4 Endurance
7 Dexterity
6 Agility
6 Perception
5 Intelligence
10 Charisma
3 Wisdom
2 Spirit
Skill Score / 5
3 Rapier
2 Pistol
1 Alchemy
2 Map Reading
4 Appraisal (clothing)
2 Exotic dance
2 Intimidation
3 Persuasion
>>46517299
>>46517437
>>46517174
Wtf is this meme? Does the bloodborne communications have something against Maria?
>>46519497
She's one of the easiest bosses in the game, often getting "bullied" by groups of 2 to 3 players. She is also seen as having a Mary Sue style backstory, and uses an "edgy" fighting style.
They pick on her,but I love her.
>>46519465
No, she's filled with yummy tomato sauce and goes down easy under the pizza cutter.
>>46517299
>>46519497
>>46519517
In fact, the more people pick on her and belittle her, the more they come to like her.
We conducted polls that show it quite clearly.
>>46511981
>Not best girl/10
>>46519714
Not into gilfs.
>>46519737
but you'd still fuck her if given the chance?
>>46519811
No.
>>46519926
then she isn't a Gilf...
>>46519947
Fuck off, don't be a twat.
>>46517299
Holy shit that image is incredible.
>>46520298
It's where "puffy vulva" came from >>46517174
>>46519714
I bet she smells like baby powder and sweat. 0/10 see me after class.
>>46519490
>Exotic Dance
;)
Remember the deal.
>>46520721
Oh my.
>>46512970
Actually you can convert BB stats into D&D, just treat every point of attribute above 10 as 5 stat points in BB.
So she'd have:
Prime/Undead/Female/Level 97 Ranger
3d12 hitdice
22 CON
15 DEX
21 STR
17 CHA
12 WIS
10 INT
>>46520736
How would you stat up her abilities? That's what I've been trying to work out, any ideas?
Rakuyo and the Chikage would need weapon stats as well, though that's probably simple to do.
>>46520721
>>46520728
>>46520721
>>46520806
That's not Maria. Who is it?
>>46520806
>>46520721
Who is this supposed to be?
>>46520894
>>46520897
looks like bimbo Djura
>>46520950
I'm okay with that.More?
>>46520979
>>46521027
>>46521039
>>46521056
>>46521073
>>46521093
>>46521111
fin
>>46520736
>Level 97 Ranger
You what?
>>46517299
Jesus Christ, look at all those optimized builds.
>>46521411
One of each of the trinity, by the looks of it.
>>46521440
There's no skillfag though. Just arc, str, and str/arc
>>46521489
Maria is the skillfag.
>>46521501
clearly she wasn't dodging enough..
>>46521534
I feel bad for her.
>>46521534
She gets stunlocked crazy easily
>>46521534
>Gwyn 2.0
>>46521440
Yeah, pretty much. Logarius Wheel, pizzacutter (shame it's kinda replaced the Kirkhammer, it's honestly not that much better in practice), and pure arcane broccoli-headed space wizard are definitely three of the strongest builds in the game. There's still Str+Arc Ludwig's Holy Blade, Arcane Holy Moonlight Sword, Bloodtinge Chikage, and a few other really notable set-ups, though. I'm just honestly impressed with how horrifically true-to-life the image is.
>>46521618
Honestly, the saw cleaver is still probably the best weapon in the game.
>>46521618
perhaps, but you will never beat the classy shit that is the threaded pimp-stick.
because of bloodborne I built my first face-type character down to a white tee-top cane(with a slim dagger in the handle).
perhaps for a shadowrun character I can get a rigger to put a mono-whip in the tip for thematic reasons...
>>46521651
is it?
how does the saw-spear stack up beside it late-game?
>>46521703
pve wise cleaver is probably one of the best weapons in the game. Not sure on pvp, though. Saw cleaver performs a little better for skill, but there are better skill weapons and cleaver is better for quality builds.
>>46521703
>how does the saw-spear stack up beside it late-game?
In PvE anything goes, literally. It's just about getting a bit familiar with the moveset.
>>46521734
>is probably one of the best weapons in the game.
really? I'd have thought it a flop due to reach...
>>46521489
Skillfags ironically tend to be at a disadvantage in Bloodborne pvp these days. A lot of them are super good in pve, like with the Blade of Mercy and its insane enemy stunlock, but their gimmicks generally aren't as useful against human opponents in general. You still see people bringing the Burial Blade or Simon's Bowblade to pvp quite a bit, but you really don't worry about them as much as you do with shit like Kos Parasite shenanigans.
>>46521651
You only say that because everyone side-pockets Saw Cleaver and Saw Spear because they're really good at covering gaps in the weapon(s) you -actually- build for. No one ever builds specifically for them in particular. They're not a weapon you can rely on totally on their own, IMO. You corner people with your main weapon and then R1 spam their poor ass with the saws so they don't know what hit them until it's too late.
>>46521887
>You corner people with your main weapon and then R1 spam their poor ass with the saws so they don't know what hit them until it's too late.
This is also why they never show up in the Chalice fight clubs. There's almost never an opportunity to spam someone down like there is in the Hunter's Nightmare, Nightmare Frontier, and Mergo's Loft.
>>46521887
>Skillfags
>disadvantage
nigga u wot
They get the most damaging viscerals AND the bullshit that is the Beasthunter Saif. Ever had someone pull out two fully gemmed Saifs on you and just spam the transform attack all day to close space? It's not pretty.
>>46521828
Saw Cleaver and Saw Spear generally are not used for their reach. You come packing another weapon that might be a little comparatively slow but does have really exception length like Ludwig's Holy Blade (usually cleaver) or Kos Parasite (usually spear), then switch to your saw of choice when you're up real close and want to get in a whole bunch of quick swipes/have gotten into a spam war. Their transformed modes are also pretty comparable to the typical longsword movesets you'd see in the Souls games, so they also give you that sort of vanilla fallback option (not as important wit Ludwig's as with Kos Parasite). Incidentally, in both the above example partner weapons, Arcane becomes a major part of your build, although Ludwig's requires Strength investment (which is why Cleaver is better for it than Spear), and the saws function really well with Arcane gems.
>>46521991
>most damaging viscerals
Just don't get parried. This isn't Souls. The only potential excuse in Bloodborne is latency issues.
>Beasthunter Saif
Fair, but in my experience you really don't see it any more often than other Skill weapons. It's true that it is nightmarish in melee when it's used correctly because it has really excellent variation in distance coverage, but you don't too often see it used correctly. I guess the transformed mode is ass, too, but that's not the draw of the weapon, so it doesn't really matter.
Everyone shut up and post Marias.
Maybe I can get some answers here.
Second time I go to Hypagoen Gaol, there are three Hunters, with one looking like he's gone mad using the Beast Claw. Is there a story reason for this fight, like the Shadows of Yarnham have?
Did all the people of Yahargul get flash burned or something? It's super creepy how they're locked into that running away, deathly scared look.
>>46523089
Mensis fucked up a ritual trying to contact Mergo, the backlash killed everyone, fusing them into walls and the unlucky ones ended up as the boss of the area.
>>46523179
That one will always be creepy.
>The Moon poops on you in the middle of downtown
>Roll for Initiative
>>46518579
The Old hunters bone specifically mentions it came from a he so it wasn't Maria
>>46523388
>Poop
The moon wasn't pooping, it was giving birth.
>>46512894
>all that fiery blood magic
>9 arcane
>>46523584
Blood stuff is based on bloodtinge.
>>46523564
offspring are poop that walks
>>46517262
>That's why Gherman's so sexually frustrated.
>>46523622
are you serious? ist hei actually on the game?
>>46523622
No way
>>46523656
>>46523676
Yep, it's actually in-game.
>>46523794
jesus fuck, man
did ya look for other book titles?
>>46523826
They're all How to Pick up Fair Maidens, as far as I can tell.
>>46523656
Almost every single book is titled that. Well the ones you can read anyway.
>>46521618
How does one use the Wheel properly? I've avoided it since I mostly pve and its kind of slow for me.
>>46523880
You spam the dash attack
>>46521618
>pizzacutter (shame it's kinda replaced the Kirkhammer, it's honestly not that much better in practice)
The Kirkhammer is good? What makes it any better than Ludwig's, let alone equivalent to the Whirlgig?
Personally I never got over the dumb looking block of stone glued to my back clipping through anything with a robe or scarf.
>>46524188
The game has given me a fetish for girls in 18th-19th century tight men's clothing. What other settings are like Bloodborne's?
>>46519517
>2 to 3 players
it's "one player" not "coop"
>>46523564
Same shit.
>>46524277
What?
>>46524293
normal players do bosses by themselves
faggots do bosses "coop" buttbuddy style
>>46524049
Funlocking, mostly. It's how I beat Gascoigne.
>>46524342
Get your elitism out of here, it's a video game. Co-op is half the fun.
>>46523403
The original Japanese text of that item description is gender neutral. It was translated as "he" because that is one of the valid ways of referring to someone of unknown gender other than singular "they/them" and also Maria basically didn't exist until the DLC came out.
It is really, really clearly supposed to be her bone as of her introduction. After being entered for the first time, The Old Hunters DLC lamp is accessed through the Hunter's Dream tombstone equivalent of the tombstone where you get the Old Hunter Bone in the Abandoned Workshop. She is also the only person in the game other than Gehrman who can use Quickening without first activating the Old Hunter Bone. She is explicitly Gehrman's closest apprentice.
This is one of the most blatant connections in all of Souls other than when Miyazaki decides to just say shit outright.
>>46524277
It's literally a coop game.
>>46523880
Spin 2 win.
Stunlock like fuck.
>>46524049
Whirligig Saw's moveset other than its transformed L2 is based on the moveset of the Kirkhammer. There are slight differences - the Whirligig Saw is marginally faster but eats more stamina, for instance.
>>46524275
I looked into your image, expecting more girl Founding Fathers, and all i got was boring sexy dress girl shit.
>>46524049
Basically the Kirkhammer in transformed mode will stunlock almost anything, unlike Ludwigs. Whirligig can also stunlock, but because it stunlocks in its buzzsaw mode instead of it being "HIT, stunlock, HIT" like with the kirkhammer it's just HITstunlockHITHITHITHITHITHITHIT until your stamina runs out - basically if you've beaten Rom using the flamer+pellet boost to stop him from teleporting away or summoning more spiders, it's like that, cheesey as hell sure, but it makes any boss it can stunlock laughably easy.
>>46524709
Trust me, I felt the same pain
>>46520764
>>46520764
Anyone? ;_;
>>46524744
So what does the baby Great One hunter eventually grow up to become? What does the hunter's transcendence mean for the future of Yharnam? Is it trapped in the Hunter's Dream with the Doll?
>>46525211
my guess, witch is probaly wrong, he ascended as a great one child, like and adoption thing, and he be learnig how to roll with those great old one power thingies
>>46525337
>>46525211
>the hunter transcends into the BBEG of Demons Souls...
>>46525337
Who adopted him? Or did he simply turn into a completely new species of alien at the end?
>>46525399
nah, that was god being hollowed
>>46525421
"why, I did Good Hunter!"
"and I do promise, to care for you as long as you require."
>>46525520
>the doll is full of motherly love
>thr hunter is a newborn great old one
>bloodborne 2 is about dealling about a inexpert old one who fucked up hard some place and the player is traped in
bam, bloodborne 2
>>46514707
>this thread is still up
She should be fucking ridiculous but the mis en scene makes her cool.
>>46525755
>this thread is still up
Lots of love for our Lady Maria. No actual progress on thread topic though
>>46525661
Yes, so motherly.
>>46521411
>bb
>poptimized bulds
It's literally 50 VIT, 17 STA, 50 primary attack stat, 25 secondary attack stat.
>>46525838
dude the game is full of motherly love, complely mad and in ways humans cannot understand but yes, full of it
remember that ambiet audio that was like a song? it wasnt humming, it was a lubaly
>>46525942
>17 STA
>>46525989
You need a proofreader.
>>46525211
The ascension ending has always been really strange to me, since what you become only really remotely resembles Kos, or maybe Ebrietas. It'd be weird if you were supposed to be a baby Flora since you don't really look like it.
That said, well, I'm not sure of this myself, but there is a possibility that all Great Ones are not individual unique entities, but different parts of a single species' life-cycle, or maybe there's only a few Great One species. For example, Mergo's Wet Nurse shares the same sort of limbs as the Amygdalas and appears to be of the same race. Incidentally, the Amygdalas appear to condone the Mensis ritual... although they could just be around there, chillin'.
Rom seems to have been a human being at one (a vacuous one, according to Micolash). We see the remains of a spider-like Great One like Rom in the Alter of Despair. Ebrietas is lamenting over it. These remains may be the corpse of Ebrietas' parent (maybe passed into the nightmare, leaving her behind?) or they may be the shell of Ebrietas herself, in which case whatever Rom became is a previous stage of Ebrietas. For no good reason, the remains are able to restore Annalise's pulpy corpse instantly.
Oedon is formless and would appear to be a different sort of existence from the other Great Ones, but when he impregnates Arianna, she ends up birthing a celestial larvae just like Ebrietas is presumably able to spawn through some undefined means, perhaps mutation of church members.
At least two of the dried umbilical cords (Gehrman's,and Mensis', though possibly Isoefka's too if didn't just come from her own body) were probably taken off the corpse of Kos when they dissected her and killed her unborn child, but they were able to be used to call different Great Ones - Flora in the case of Gehrman and Mergo (Oedon's child by Queen Yahrnam) in the case of Mensis.
So Great Ones are very interrelated, if not outright the same type of being at different stages of life which you become.
>>46526056
no shit, sherlock
>>46526074
What if you actually resemble Oedon finally given form? You absorb umbilical cords which at least two could be the result of it impregnating Arianna and Fake Iosefka
does anyone here thing the doll could have done with just a bit more spoken lines?
>>46524277
>whole game built around social aspects and the ability to invade and summon help
>"that's not how you're suppose to play the game!"
I wonder who's wrong here...
>>46526353
Co-op and PvP were always tertiary, at best. You have to go out of your way to activate more interaction than messages.
>>46526154
That's an interesting theory... But then, the other two would have to come from Kos.
Iosefka's umbilical cord may also come from Kos, but it doesn't really matter - it's either from Kos or Oedon regardless.
Maybe you become a Kos/Oedon hybrid? Although you really could just be a baby Kos, looking at her appearance.
And Kos was able to able to empower the curse that created the Hunter's Nightmare.
Hunters were necessitated by Flora being beckoned and manifesting as the Paleblood Moon, causing the mutations of the Old Blood to grow out of control. Although maybe the mutations would happen with or without its presence? Well, either way, it definitely makes things worse.
Incidentally, Oedon works through the Old Blood as well:
"Human or no, the oozing blood is a medium of the highest grade, and the essence of the formless Great One. Both Oedon, and his inadvertent worshipers, surreptitiously seek the precious blood."
Blood Dregs (Oedon sperm): "The Vilebloods of Cainhurst, blood-lusting hunters, see these frightful things in coldblood. They often appear in the blood of echo fiends, that is to say, the blood of hunters. Queen Annalise partakes in these blood dreg offerings, so that she may one day bear the Child of Blood, the next Vileblood heir."
We're not really told what the "medium of the highest grade" which creates the Old Blood actually is, simply that it was found in the Chalice Dungeons. Ebrietas was very likely dredged out of the Chalice Dungeons as well, so "the medium" might be referring to her. It might even be the red fluid she regurgitates when you fight her that was refined by the Healing Church's Blood Saints to be closer to human blood so it doesn't just automatically make you go insane (although it could've caused the people exposed to mutate into celestial larvae). Alternatively, it's just outright her own briny blood. I guess it doesn't matter either way.
>>46526537
>You will never save the real Iosefka, and build a relationship with her helping save the few humans of Yharnam and defending the clinic from a siege of beasts
>>46526640
A-ha-ha, but you can!
Through the power ofTAAAABLETOP GAAAMING..!
>>46526793
yeah, but then you have to share the experience with someone else...
>>46526896
Sharing is caring, anon.
>>46523179
>>46523089
I don't think it was a ritual gone wrong, it seemed more like creating the One Reborn was the end goal, and all the boxes and people fused into walls were maybe prototypes.
As for the hunters, they were the ones who went around kidnapping everyone for the ritual, along with those bag guys.
>>46527030
I just figured the ritual that summoned the one reborn was a final stopgap between the hunter and Yahar'gul to stop him from dealing with Micolash, myself.
>mfw learning I could kill the bell ringers in that fight after I beat it
>>46526074
I always thought that the inside-part of Ebrietas' face looked like a strawberry.
>>46524188
"nothin personnel, kid"
>>46527030
>>46527110
I'm pretty sure the One Reborn was the crazy fuckers at Mensis' attempt at making their own artificial Great One. All of their test subjects that were brought to Yahar'gul, along with most of it's inhabitants by the look of it were fused into one being by some ritual. Obviously it didn't go as planned, and they just wound up with a giant pile of undead flesh. I imagine the Mensis Ritual which created the Nightmare was their next attempt to make contact, with even worse results.
>>46527274
"Y-you, too"
>>46527279
The Celestial Emissary was a successful artificial great old one, created by the humans to communicate with the great old ones.
The Living Failures were the failed attempts at creating a Celestial Emissary.
>>46517262
>Actually doll is for motherly love specifically and only.
Gherman's frustrated because she's not the woman he wanted, and that whenever he looks at her he sees what he can never have.
>>46527274
She doesn't teleport though.
>>46526640
>not wifing Iosefka's imposter and chortling your way to enlightenment ob the backs of the poor
>>46527733
Until a Great One cucks you and makes her endlessly shiver from carrying its child
>>46519517
>often getting "bullied" by groups of 2 to 3 players
Well, she was pretty blatantly designed for one on one fights.
>>46517299
That artist is so freaking cool.
>>46527897
>multiplayer game
>designing encounters for 1 player
Seems like they fucked up.
>>46527955
Human-sized bosses in Souls/Borne games are always designed to be fought alone, though. Fighting them with extras tends to cheapen the experience.
>>46519517
>She's such a wimp when you have help
>>46528113
I was just explaining where the jokes come from, no need to go full defense force there, Gehrman.
>>46528080
[citation needed]
>>46528418
It's a survival-horror game. Isolation is one of the biggest factors in this.
>>46528113
To be fair, she's a wimp even when you don't have help if you figure out some of her crippling weaknesses. She was incredibly hard for me the first few times until I accidentally used tentacle magic and saw how incredibly it wrecked her shit.
>>46528530
It's also amultiplayergame.
>>46528530
it's not survival horror
i agree the game is best played alone, but i don't think it's intended that way.
>>46528530
>Bloodborne
>Survival Horror
>>46527846
Is the dead executioner on the ground there in the original? It looks like MS paint.
>>46527605
Quickstepping.
>>46528620
>>46528643
Yes, it actually is, much more so than any other that wears that label.
Consider this: how tense do you get as you explore areas with large numbers of souls? Much more so than any game that tries to build tension through predictable jump scares, I'd wager.
>>46528530
>survival-horror
lol
>Isolation
With ghosts of other players running around everywhere, getting to see their deaths, invading you, leaving messages, helping you.
>>46528608
It's a single player game that lets you bring others in if you want.
>>46528763
>running around with tons of souls instead of cashing them in
>"lol, tension, u guys"
>>46528800
Or is it a multiplayer game with an offline mode for poorfags who can't afford internet?
>>46528763
>Yes, it actually is
no, it's just a solo game that has the option for pussies to bitch out and call for help
>>46528854
Seeing as how you need a non-renewable resource to bring dudes in or fight them, I'd say the former.
>>46528763
>caring about souls
>an infinite resource
Scrub detected. I bet you care about getting your bloodstain if you die too.
>>46528763
tension does not survival horror make
>>46528854
>have to go out of your way to pvp or co-op
>pvp has never been balanced in any souls game
>co-op is hilariously easy
>designed for multiplayer
So how about those stats, eh?
>>46528763
It's an action rpg set in a horror-themed setting. It's not a horror game. If the story was told from the perspective of one of the other inhabitants of Yarnham you meet, trying to stay locked inside, it might be a horror game, but when told from the vantage of a hunter, it's not.
>>46528983
No one gives a fuck
>>46529081
You're here, so contribute or piss off.
>>46528917
What do you mean non-renewable?
>>46528971
Yes, all those social aspects of the game are just tacked onto all the games, it was never designed to actually be anything.
>>46529131
I think he meant to say consumable, but yeah, I don't agree either. I think multiplayer and co-op were always a focus.
>>46528983
I'm more curious about this guy's stats. Dex? Quality?
>>46528344
I know, I'm mostly mocking the meme.
Why is the doll so tall?
>>46528947
Yeah, it kinda does. Without it you've got...nothing.
>>46529225
Well, his real body was confined to a wheelchair. The only reason he was able to get up and fling his scythe around at you was because you were both inside his dream, the Hunter's Dream. His actual physical condition was too poor to do any fighting, so I'd probably stat real-world Gehrman with low Con. Dream Gehrman would be closer to how he was when he was younger and in better shape, probably high physical scores in general. STR, CON, DEX, the works.
>>46529002
It's a much of a survival horror game as resident evil 4 is.
>>46529097
Make me.
>>46529002
Being able to kill monsters doesn't preclude a game game being a horror game.
>>46529283
I never played resident evil 4, so I don't really have any counterargument to that.
>>46529316
The fact that you get increasingly stronger, rpg style, by defeating larger and larger enemies, and that the game focuses on this, does. Only thing horror about it is its setting.
>>46529360
Setting, difficulty, general theme, etc. All those things that make a horror game a horror game.
>>46520764
>>46520764
Anyone have any good ideas?
>>46529398
A horror game doesn't focus on you forcibly climbing your way up the ranks of power to take on stronger and stronger foes. As challenging as it is, the games of the souls series are ultimately still games focused on self-fulfillment.
unless it's some sort of bizarre deconstruction of that concept.
>>46529131
>non-renewable
Only so much insight in a game.
>>46529468
I fucked up my post. I meant to put "unless it's some sort of bizarre deconstruction of that concept." after "forcibly climbing your way up the ranks of power to take on stronger and stronger foes" in parentheses, and then clarify that the souls series do not deconstruct this concept.
>>46529503
That's literally not true though. Sinister Bell allows you to gain Insight without use of Madmen Knowledge or witnessing horrific events.
Holy shit I just want ideas on how to write up her weapon stats and class abilities, can we please do that instead of arguing over what is/is not horror?
>>46529670
No, this is now a survival horror multiplayer experience. You will never get your answers.
>>46529468
You're dropped into a city of madness and told "seek paleblood." At first it's just you trying to find your way through a city full of crazies, but crazies who strangely hate you above all others. Gothic horror, facing the horror of the knowable, things that are or were human. These poor wretches you kill are those who succumbed to the treatment you received, and you must press on for the cure.
As you progress the true horror of the game, the cosmic, unknowable, Lovecraftian horror reveals itself. The horror is now much bigger than just you and being able to kill these horrors still doesn't make it not a horror game.
>>46529670
What system then?
>>46529729
D&D 5th edition,please.
>>46529670
It's definitely horror, it's just not survival horror, you're more than capable enough to take out every dude in the game without much trouble.
In survival horror you're lucky to even get an attack mechanic. People blame RE4 for ruining the franchise but it was really RE that started the slide.
>>46529741
Same base stats as a twinblade, able to switch to a pair of sabers as a free action, may add an extra 1D6(2D6 when joined) magic damage and 1D6(2D6 when joined) flame damage when the user's health falls below 50%.
Can't say I'm familiar enough with 5th ed to say her class specific stuff, but speed, dodging, and weapon expertise are a given.
>>46529924
What about her activated abilities like stabbing herself to empower her blade, both in terms of range and also damage? Should that come into play?
>>46529750
It would be true to classify bloodborne as horror if it were a written novel, but it is not. As games are an interactive medium, part of how a game's genre is classified is in how it's presented to the player. Bloodborne, despite its disturbing elements, is still, as an action rpg, still focused on self aggrandizement, and it therefore cannot be a horror game. If most of the means of improving one's self in bloodborne were removed, I could see your point, but even then, it would be very poorly presented as a horror game. Because games are interactive, and, therefore, how a game treats its player contributes largely to what it is as a genre, a game needs to make a player feel powerless against the monster/whatever is meant to be feared, without offering a reliable method of the character improving themselves and almost trivializing previously unopposable enemies.
The souls series, even outside of bloodborne, has always been classified as dark fantasy, which is, by definition, fantasy with horror elements, but again, this is only the setting, and, as a game, there is a lot more to characterizing bloodborne's genre than its setting, namely its presentation.
>>46529966
Damage would be the magic and flaming stuff. The range...I'm honestly not sure how that'd play in. Re-roll attack misses with a penalty maybe since it does have that trail that makes it such a pain to dodge.
>>46529272
>Well, his real body was confined to a wheelchair.
What? That was his dream body. MP literally confined him to a wheel chair, like it does to you at the end of the game. We don't know how strong Gherman in his prime was, but it was probably strong. Dream Gherman is as strong as the MP allows him to be. I would imagine he would have low Con though.
Looking to get The Old Hunters DLC tomorrow. Is a Strength/Skill build good for using a variety of weapons? What about STR/ARC?
>>46529741
level 20 fighter, only faster.
as a legendary action, an attack with fire damage and increased range (which she starts using below 50% health).
>>46530089
Holy Moonlight Greatsword is a good STR weapon, but the ARC only applies to the wave attacks it makes.
>>46530089
Cannon and wheel for me. You haven't seen fun until you parry something with a cannonball to the face.
>>46530089
Str/Skill will get you let you use Church Pick HLB (depending on your arc you may not get a lot out of the beams though). Str/Arc lets you grab Whirligig (which has great scaling if you want to do an elemental weapon). Otherwise you could try the Amygdala Arm or Boom Hammer, but their arc scaling is shit and they're more strength focused. Make sure you grab the two new spells, they both rock.
You're going to have a ton of fun.
>>46530106
Cool, thanks. I've heard good things about the Pizza Cutter, what other DLC weapons are worth looking at?Also, what's the "Skillfag" thing about? Is it the new Hexbabby?
>>46530118
Just interested in DLC weapons.
>>46530181
For the builds you described, the ones listed in the few posts above you fit your builds the best. The DLC weapons are basically filling up every niche, such as str/blt, pure dex, pure arc, that sort of thing. Basically every build will find something in the DLC.Except Blt/Arc sadly
>>46512894
Its strange that she gets shreked the most by str-end builds the most
>>46515367
>*only applies to skill builds
>Best weapon
>>46530318
>the normal R1 ducks bullets
Saif is so fucking cool. Plus its easy as shit to rush to, I love how the DLC improved the weapon variety so much. It basically doubled the weapon count and half of them are available right after Amelia.
>>46521651
You must've never run any hunter axe build ever then, the rally combined with the stunlock, then tossing in the spin2win and MASSIVE damage, further boosting rally, holy cthlulu
>Lady Maria
>Not waifuing best girl
Adella is the only proper choice.
>>46530629
No hat, no deal.
>>46530629
The only thing she's best at is providing HP. Her appeal as someone who admires you deteriorates after she kills Arianna and goes nuts post-Blood Moon.
>>46530723
2hu please leave
>>46530735
Never had that happen, I noticed her staring one time and stopped. That and the healing effect is far more useful than increased stamina regen.
Also she's a cute nun, and no temporary bout of insanity will ever ruin that. Everyone sans the Good Hunter goes insane post bloodmoon.
>>46530629
I kind of want a picture of Arianna with the text, "Oedon Tested, Oedon Approved"
>>46530735
2hu shouldn't have a monopoly on sweet hats.
>>46530861
If you draw blood from Arianna 3+ times while Adella's in the church, nun goes nuts and kills her.
That happened to me, and on top of that I went into Iosefka's clinic and killed the impostor too early, so here I am with two umbilical cords and none more.
Which leads me to ask, what happens if you eat all three before the end of the game?
>>46530935
It's what you have to do to unlock the third ending.
Save your game to USB when the Hunter house switches over. Reject the final offer and fight the two bosses to get it.
>>46530935
Just do that on NG+.
>>46511981
Do I need PS+ to use the hunter messages?
>>46527955
It's a single-player game with the capacity to engage in multiplayer you fucking retard.
It is designed to be played alone.
You automatically play alone unless you deliberately do otherwise.
Entire sections of the game are designed for solo player.
You have to go to specific areas or do specific things if you want to play with other people.
Although you don't even have to leave the house to be a retard.
>>46531399
>this just in, games that allow for co-operative and competitive gameplay are not 'multiplayer' games by design
>>46528080
>be poorfag
>no interwebs
>play vers1.3 of bloodboune solo
>finally get interwebs back
>see everyone 1v3 bosses like gascy, amygda Amelia, logarius.
Wreck average players when they out their edgy snowflake bloodtinge skill katana build against my brutally cunning axe strend build
>laugh as they think their dodges and tricks can save them
>realise 3v1-ing every boss has made the majority of elitist a bunch of hypocrites
"Reeks of vilebloods, therefore no mercy hunter of hunters"
>>46530629
>church filth
>good
>best waifus
>best NPCs and NPC quest lines
>best lore
>best area
>best bosses
>best weapons
>best armors
>best NPC fight
Vileblood master race, wheel cucks need not apply
