What's your favorite lore of 40k?
>>46491949
Anything with the Navy.
>>46491949
Chaos.
>>46492083
Anything specific?
I personally like Ahriman and his quest to become a God.
That one guardsmen that got teleported onto Horus's battlebarge.
>>46491949
Wm King's Deathwing.
Classic.
>>46491949
Abhumans.Just joking, heretic scum.
>>46494340
Well I have cancer now.
Thanks
>>46491949
Anyway, thats a hard question.
There is a lot of good lore for Warhammer 40k, but way more bad because GW likes to jack off with the Retcon button, so it can be hard to say because it might not even be fucking canon. IE Abbadon being a fucking loser
That being said
My favorite thing was the Illuminati. And yes, it was a stupid secret society of SUPER SEERITS
http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Illuminati More info here
What it boils down to is a group of people who knew shit in the Imperium was fucked, and were doing things to try and unfuck them. Finding the biological sons of the Emperor (don't know if those were a thing)
working WITH the Eldar, the only other race in the galaxy that aren't making things worse (besides maybe the Tau but they are fucking children so who gives a shit)
And even trying to revive the Emperor
anyway, because GW hates fun and needs grimderp, it was reconnected into 'IT WAS CHAOS AAAAALLLL AAAALOOOOONG' like every other fucking thing in the universe
>>46491949
Tyranids
>>46494493
>IE Abbadon being a fucking loser
Stopped reading there.
If you going pretend to be knowledgeable of the fluff, then don't parrot a meme with no basis in the fluff.
Also learn to format your posts betterm you degenerate.
>>46491949
Angron's speech about keeping the nails in his head so that he can cope with serving a man and an empire that he hates.
Krashrak the Stalker, last of the Viskeons.
The Deathwing returning to the Plains World.
That Eversor assassin who killed a whole noble family, including a 300 year old man and a baby, and at one point used a spoon as a weapon.
And pic related.
>>46492151
>>This
>It turned full face.
>And then Drax really did feel it, the full epochal malevolence of the c’tan.
>The ignition spluttered. The lights flickered and failed and Drax found that he couldn’t move, not even to put his fingers to the ignition keys. He was a child, left in his crib of cold leather and plasteel by a cruel star-god. It saw him, but his eyes couldn’t begin to fathom it and he saw only darkness. Drax might have wept then, but it didn’t matter. The transcendent shard of the c’tan took the time to study him. Not because Drax was special. He was not. It took the time because it could, because time ran to its command. The instant stretched, to an infinity if the c’tan had so willed, but time enough for Drax to comprehend.
>The universe didn’t love him. The Emperor would never know his name. Only this entity, this god of ancient stars, would remember. And in the second that followed, the Chimera flipped onto its back, its belly splitting open. Air, heat and Drax himself were ripped through the hull and out onto the surface of the moon. He floated, falling so slowly. The world was black and silent. It was cold. And the c’tan looked away.
-Cold Steel
This is one of my favorite fluff pieces. This encompasses the grimdarkness of the 40K universe.. The whole laughing thirsting gods angle with the uncaring nature of the universe. In his dying moments the guardsman understood how insignificant he is and how no one will remember his passing except this malevolent godling, and already the memory is fading.
>>46491949
Farsighted enclave and salamanders.
Being a good guy is fun
I like Magnus getting BTFO by Russ
>>46494647
Take a joke senpai
Imperial family is a big fan of back breakers.
I recall Horus doing the same thing to the Emperor
>>46494340
>not wanting qt abhuman slave-waifus
My favorite part of official lore is them colorful IG regiments. Deathworlders, Krieg, or Elysians, I love their flavors.
Unofficial, I have to admit a longtime admiration and occasional inclusion in Only War of theGalactic Partridges.
Quick question, anyone knlw the name of the commander who could hide tanks in the tabletop strategy game and had all that hilarious fluff written about him? Can't remember to save my life.
>>46495236
CRRRREEEEEEEED
>>46495236
Creed
>>46491949
Kharn the Betrayer, Angron, and the World Eaters in general. Such goodness.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbireii6Y3Y
>>46495284
>>46495291
THANK YOU YOU BEAUTIFUL BASTARDS
I've been unable to remember the name and my girlfriend got into tabletop games recently so I needed to introduce her.
Kreig, my favorite marines in 40K lore.
>>46495366
Kreigers are pretty cool.
Love and Kreig was my favorite 40k fanfiction until it got really weird and people force grimderp into it.
>>46494778
FUCK YEAH
But on another note, the Lamenters lore and some of their short stories (pic related) have always had me feeling like they really fit the themes of 40k. They tried to do the right and honourable thing and stuck by their mates, betrayed and seeking redemption they set of on crusade right into the jaws of death. And even when they knew where they were going, the just kept on going anyway because it was the only thing left for them.
They are true heros.
>>46492151
>>46494778
>>46494747
>>46495236
>>46495284
you guys are alright
personally i loved the battle of tyrok fields
>>46495444
Yeah, that was nice.
>>46495444
>Love and Kreigthat's what got me into 40k a year agoterranis holds!
Sons of Malice and the Apex Twins.
>>46494647
> abaddon
> not being a failure
Pick one you faggot
>>46497340
Prove it, fgt.
Because going by the lore, he has made everyone including the Emperor's own avatar his bitches.
>>46491949
Black templars
>>46491949
Tyranids.
One of my favorite pieces of fluff is that story about Deathleaper performing psychological warfare on a guy, constantly killing all of his body guards but leaving him alive. It just shows how much smarter the bugs are than everyone thinks.
I just like the feeling of how everything is about to come crashing down on the Imperium. I just wish that GW didn't resolve Armageddon and the 13th Clack Crusade
Thats too hard to pick OP but I've always been in love with the Inner Circle and secrets of the DA. That being said though the most recent DA lore has me seeing bloody red
>>46494340
Please delete this cancer.
For the sake of everything that is.
>>46491949
Vraks, the blood pact, the sons of sek and gereon.
Basicly everything chaos that isnt just CSM or Demons.
Do you even have to ask?
Chaos in general, especially the traitor legions, and Exorcist space marines. Not Mary Sue radical Grey Knights? Yes please. Also bitching color scheme. Pic related
>>46496734
It's better than half the shit BL vomits forth.
>>46500652
Exorcists are what the GK should've been in the beginning.
>>46499653
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>>46492111
Personally I wish Beastmen mutants were more common opponents for different factions. That one guys Chaos Warband made up of converted Gors looks awesome.
>>46494340
Mostly I'm just annoyed at that chainsword. They're chunkier than that.
>>46497967
This.
There is so much interesting stuff to do with Chaos cultists, especially their aesthetics where everyone can look unique and chaos-y without having spikes and power armor and skulls everywhere.
>>46497528
>he has made everyone including the Emperor's own avatar his bitches.
proof?
>>46497599
Frankly I find the idea of a bug that thinks offensive!
>>46500906
Talon of Horus.
Imperius the Solar Priest tried to prevent the destiny that Abaddon was trying to engineer. For his effort he was brutally murdered by Lehor and Lyras. Gyre said that the Solar Priest essence withdrew but it will come back again and next time it will come back with fire and vengeance. Since all of them are alive up to 999 41K, we can assume that they killed him again.
Khayon took the ashes of Imperius, blood of Horus's clone, shards of Worldbreaker, crystal shards from crystallized psychic echo of Sanguinius death, and fragment of Sanguinius sword to a very skilled Thousand Sons weapon crafter called "Wonder Maker. From all of that stuff he created a really potent weapon.
Khayon is the only one who used his fragment well. Lyras made a facemask. Lehor used the fragment to create teeth for his chainsword that he would later lose in a swamp.
I only came across it recently, but I love the Plague of Unbelief
I can see why it was dropped from the Witchhunters codex since it's more of an ecclisarchy thing than sister-specific.
That goes for 60% of the 2nd edition Sisters codex. Really great stuff, but not really relevant to the army as it stands today.
I really like the Vraks books too, but that's mostly because of the attention they paid to outlining the flow of battle and paid attention to logistics and stuff like that.
>>46491949
I always really liked the ambiguous loyalty of the Dark Angels. The idea the Lion was buttmad and intentionally held off reinforcing Terra because he wanted to play both sides is pretty cool and gives even more personality to the chapter.
It's a shame GW confirmed the Dark Angels actually are Loyal with a capital L. I guess they just hate it when they realize they have something interesting.
Are we talking official, or unofficial?
If Official, I love the Steel Confessors. Underfluffed chapter that was founded secretly/illegally by the AdMech.
If Unofficial, I'd have to sayeverything in this thread. >>46490677
>>46501139
>we can assume that they killed him again.
No you cant
>>46497528
He's launched how many black crusades now? Have any of them gotten to tera yet?
>>46501552
Ignore Carnac wankery
>>46501552
Yes, I can.
How many E-dollars are you going to bet that they are going to murder him AGAIN. Khayon and Abaddon are both alive. So it's safe bet for me.
The second book of Black Legion series is coming at some point the future. You better get prepared to pay up.
>>46501701
13 and only ONE of them is about conquering Cadia and marching to Terra which is the 13th one.
If you don't know the lore, please don't bother.
>>46497563
Mah nigga
>>46495497
You're a good man anon.
>>46491949
I personally like reading the Forgeworld books. The Siege of Vraks, The Taros Campaign.
Also, the whole thing of a technological cult of the AdM.
Space Marine's organs.
The Grim Darkness of the Far Future.
Traveling through hell.
That it is one of the few settings that uses the exageration well. Mass Effect and Star Wars didn't need a whole galaxy to happen. WH40K does.
Mind you, I'm not considering how these ideas are missaplied so many times.Xenology, even if it's not canon
Old Chaos lore, focused on the Nine Legions. Back when Chaos Marines ware described as the ancient nightmare, demons of forgotten times bringing hell to the domains of mankind. That's how I do them still on the tabletop, as I am part of the rare breed of fluff-list users.
>>46501933
>Xenology, even if it's not canon
It is canon. It's presented as an in-verse tome so whatever in it is bound to bullshity. However, it's still canonical.
What you obviously mean is that it's not factual.
>>46501850
Lamenters always been good pals.
>>46501803
>>46501803
>13 and only ONE of them is about conquering Cadia and marching to Terra which is the 13th one.
Cadia still stands. Black crusade= Denied.
>>46501982
This Makes me Happy.
>>46492151
Ollanius Pius is the best part of the Horus Heresy
>>46502865
I think you mean the only good part.
>>46494340
how did this even get made this fast
>>46502887
Furfags are ever vigilant for things to exploit.
>An Unexpected Ally (995.M41) - The Craftworld of Iyanden, struggling to survive after its horrible narrow victory over Hive Fleet Kraken, is forced to engage WAAAGH! Rekkfist in order to prevent Iyanden being invaded again. Early engagements cause crippling damage on the greenskin empire, but the Orks counter-attack in force. Iyanden is left with no choice but to disturb more and more of their revered ancestors from their deathly slumbers and place their spirit stones into mighty Ghost Warriors in order to contain the counter-invasion. Just as all seems lost, the Wraithkind Kabal and the Cult of the Flayed Hand burst through the Webway portal at the Craftworld's rear. Fighting alongside Iyanden's Aspect Warriors and their Ghost Warrior allies, the Dark Eldar drive off the Orks. When asked by Iyanden's Council of Seers as to why they intervened, the Dark Eldar reply that they find Iyanden's angst-ridden forays into the world of necromancy extremely entertaining.
I love how the Dark Eldar are such dicks. Like Dick Masterson levels of dicks.
Sebastian Thor, I like some noblebright in my grimdark
>>46502915
I love it whenever Eldar get dicked over. Something about seeing those arrogant fucks get schooled is supremely satisfying.
>>46494747
>Angron's speech about keeping the nails in his head so that he can cope with serving a man and an empire that he hates.
Angron is such a fucking cunt. You don't have to fling the galaxy into chaos to achieve freedom. He could, realistically, just have fucking quit and refused to cooperate, and his sons would've been absorbed in the Ultramarines or some shit.
"B-b-but Big E didn't help his buddies that one time!"
So the entire galaxy must burn? Fuck off.
>>46502971
He's also the only one who didn't conquer his planet. Angron is also a byword for Failure.
>>46502935
Thing is the Dark Eldar were helping them. They didn't even want anything in return, but that was the rub. They did it entirely because they wanted to personally tell Iyanden that their necromancy was so outlandish even Commorragh was impressed.
>>46496784
Sons of Malice are no longer canon
>>46503148
The tried to make Pious not cannon, but legends like that never truly die.
>>46502915
>...and Dick go fuck yourself.
>>46503011
I never ever thought of that.
You're fucking right.
On a side note, another about Malcador is fucking awesome.
Honestly in some other universe he was the Emperor and shit was so much less fucked.
>>46492014
Does anyone know where you can download the Battle Fleet Gothic rulebook? It's not in the OP for 40k general.
>>46503242
True that may be, but the Sons of Malice are EXTRA not canon because GW lost the rights to Malice.
Don't get me wrong, I think its bull shit. I thought the Sons of Malice were fucking awesome.
I will always be Tau scum.
>>46502845
>Cadia still stands. Black crusade= Denied.
Actually, latest fluff says that the surface is lost and that Abaddon's fleets have invaded the sectors nearby the Cadian sector.
>>46502825
The Ragged knight is going to wreck Imperius.
>>46502971
Why would he care for the galaxy? The Emperor gave him zero reason to care. So let it burn, he has nothing to lose.
>>46503419
Most of Cadia's surface is held by Abaddon's forces but the Imperium have control in space meaning the chaos forces are cut off and open to orbital bombardment plus Logan Grimnar and CREEEEED are in charge so the armless failure is gonna get his shit kicked in
>>46502935
Are you angry about elves anon?
>>46503271
>malcador
all you had to do was listen big E ...
>>46503501
>but the Imperium have control in space meaning the chaos forces are cut off and open to orbital bombardment
Nope.
Recent fluff has Abaddon's fleet smashing everything aside. Furthermore, all Abaddon has to do is destroy pylons on Cadia to flood the whole system and then sector with the energies of the Eye of Terror and countless hosts of daemons. If he has control of the surface then he has free reign to destroy them.
Now stop clinging to the retconned EoT fluff. It's utterly irrelevant. The fluff expanded beyond that.
>>46503419
he's got a large part of the surface , not all
galaxy's top 10 pranks gone way to far #1: abbadon started a crusade with the intent of reaching earth and got stuck on the first obstacle on his path by the best human commander since lord solar macharius and a cadia unified under his command
funny thing is if failbaddon hadn't done the whole tyrok fields thing he would have conquered cadia easily
>>46503607
Are those pylons Necron, Eldar, or Old Ones in origin?
>>46503607
where is this fluff from ?
>>46503607
Jesus, why are all you chaosfags such cunts?
>>46503717
>>46503672
Necron.
>>46503664
He doesn't need Cadia. He just needs to destroy the Pylons network on the planet. With the surface under his control, nothing can stop him from doing that.
Furthermore, he didn't get struck at Cadia. His forces smashed into the nearby sectors and have stalemated there in a grindfest. Even this is part of his plans.
With the Pylons destroyed and the Imperials and Chaotic forces killing each in grindfest, the Eye will feed on the energies created from all the death and carnage. This will cause it to expand forward, rendering reality as it moves. Endless daemon armies will smash their way as the walls of reality crumble and reinforce the traitors continuously.
This is all part of his plan which is called the Crimson Path, and the Imperials have played into it.
>>46503717
So salty.
>>46503679
-CSM codex 6th ED
-Black Legion supplement
-Armour of the Lost and the Damned
-"Ragnar Blackmane" novel
>>46492151
but he's from a time when it was still a command bunker
>>46503777
NURGLE BLESSES ME.
This time around the Chaos Gods themselves are pitching in.
>999.M41 The Plague River
>Nurgle’s minions carry his cauldron to the steps of his manse, where he tips open the vessel and pours an immense, plague-filled river through into realspace. The river wends its way into the Cadian Sector, unleashing a jaw-dropping array of filth-bringing Daemons. As the Imperium shudders beneath the first salvos of Abaddon’s brutal conflict, Nurgle seizes the opportunity to distribute his finest epidemics ever further. Diseases infect hive worlds and seep behind fortress walls, weakening the defenders of the Imperium at this most crucial hour…
Every Chaos fag:
>Perfect plan!
>We'll choke their rivers with our dead!
>Oh shit! Loyalists!
>WAAHH!
>What went wrong Abbadon?
>You're right Abbadon the plan was perfect and we achieved everything we set out to do!
>Now let's kill each other!
>We're tired of killing each other, what do we do Abbadon?
and the process repeats...
>>46503740
I didn't know squirrels could run like that, funny and correct filename though
>>46503919
>squirrels
>>46503897
>We'll choke their rivers with our dead!
Other way around. In most engagements, the loyalists outnumber the traitors. But despite this, the traitors are the ones who inflict real damage to their enemies. The traitors gain strength while the strength of the Imperium is waning.
In the Long War, The Imperium are the guys choking on their own dead while the traitors have grown fat and powerful from all plunder and glory.
>>46503919
>squirrels
Quality post
>>46494340
>>46494340
I am a furfag and even I think this is a travesty.
Look at those dinky-ass weapons! Her bolter must fire toenail clippings.
>>46504017
goddamn i hate chaos edgelords
>>46503919
That's a racoon you fucking retard.
>>46504068
>>46504310
newfags
>>46503272
Check /bfgg/.
>>46504017
None of it matters in the end
The Necrons are going to win in the end anyway
Chaos makes it to Terra, starts fucking shit up
Nids' show up and eat everyone
Everything is dead
Necrons inharet the galaxy.
>>46503298
You're thinking of MALAL, son.
The Sons of Malice were made explicitly to get around that little clause and remain, as far as I know, very much canon.
>>46504458
but the Old Ones are controlling the Tyranids, so they'll win
>>46504588
There is no proof of that beyond /tg/ fuckery
>>46503919
>squirrels
That's definitely a chinchilla
>>46503679
>>46503717
>>46503897
Jesus Christ, how does so much of this board not know about Carnac?
> Ignore Chaos-autist posts
> Do not reply to Chaos-autist posters
> Hide Chaos-autist threadsNot even that big of an Imperial fag either, but fuck me if Chaos posters aren't as depressingly edgy as Chaos itself nowadays.
>>46504588
The Necrons are such a hard-counter to the Tyranids it isn't even funny.
>>46504639
I'm too loyal for that. I see these cultists and just think PURGE.
>>46504639
It's okay for Imperialfags to post "HURP ARMLESS" meme but it's not okay for Chaosfags to call them out and beat them down with actual lore? We are autists for doing what the rest of the fandom does. You want us to be whimpering dogs to the Imperial scum to get beaten down at their pleasure, you hypocritical bastard!
Not anymore. The reason the armless meme started took off and why is it still going for so long is because most Chaosfags don't have a spine. Unfortunately for you, I do have a spine. SPINES FOR DAYS.
>>46504386
Fuck me, I'm retarded. I never noticed we had a general for it before. Thanks man.
>>46504763
how do you type without arms?
>>46504645
And yet Chrome Domes went to sleep specifically because of da Orks.
I don't see what the orks do being very different from what nids do.
>Disclaimer: this shouldn't be misread to be a bash at either race
>>46491949
The war of Armageddon because I'm a huge history fan and Wehraboo.
>>46504798
>And yet Chrome Domes went to sleep specifically because of da Orks.
They went to sleep because of the Eldar because they were too devreasted by their wars with the Old Ones and the C'tan.
How is possible to be this wrong? Did you do it on purpose?
>>46504775
You are welcome. Before there wasn't often a general but it's getting pretty active recently because of the soon to be released video game.
>>46504786
Typing with my extra spines. Spines for says, keep up!
>>46504877
days*
>>46491949
Space Wolves
No seriously
>>46491949
>What's your favorite lore of 40k?
-We'll create another god to kill the first one we made that's devouring our souls upon death unless we seal our eternal spirits into purgatory.
-How?
-Do you like Kool Aid?
Fucking. GENIUS.
>>46504919
my hrvosshur
>>46504919
What part?
The wolf part or the other wolf parts?
>>46504977
Not him.
Ragnar Blackmane is one of my husbandu's.
>>46504862
Orkz iz made fo fightin'
>>46504639
thanks for the warning anon
i just don't want any people interested in the hobby or setting coming on here and reading all this delusion
>>46504763
> beat them down with actual lore?
you're not beating people down with actual lore you see "failbaddon invaded cadia" and read "conquered"
cadia is contested
>>46505003
>not rokkin
You's muckin abowwt!
That bloodravens are all a bunch of goddamn thieves
This seems to be the most active 40k thread right now so I'll ask here.
does anyone even play as DA Deathwing anymore? I never see them mentioned anywhere.
>>46505026
>>46505026
Except I am beating people with actual lore but the anons I am dealing with are illiterate like you for example.
>you see "failbaddon invaded cadia" and read "conquered"
I see in the Ragnar Blackmane novel that the Imperials are saying that the surface is lost. I reported it as such and added things from other sources.
There are some pockets of resistence on Cadia but (see picture related) the world is already dead.
>all this delusion
You see? This is why Imperialfags are pure cancer. They see lore that they don't like andget all salty. Instead of discussing the lore, they get defensive and pissy. None of what I said is delusion. I sourced everything.
You on other hand did nothing but bitch.
>>46505160
if you could communicate to people without sounding autistic none of this would be a problem
>>46505133
I played against deathwing a couple of times, I just can't see how they are playable
>>46505198
Read through the thread.
I did exactly that. What you mean by autistic is a person who is right or saying something I don't like.
>He is using actual fluff to refute my memes that I hold as an absolute truth for some raisen!?
>CHAOS AUTIST!
You are all cancer, I swear.
>>46505213
I had a friend who built an army of them about 10 years ago. Lost touch with him. Heard DA got nerfed to shit.
what's the problem with deathwing in particular? too many points bottled up with too few of units? Needs more boots on the field?
>>46503419
A single outpost on the surface does not mean the entire planet.
Get your lore right, niggerfaggot.
>>46503522
Yes. Yes, I am.
>>46505268
>too many points bottled up with too few of units? Needs more boots on the field?
Yeah that was exactly what I observed. I tabled the guy I played but he was cool so we had a couple of rematches letting him try different things. It honestly felt like I was playing a weak version of grey knights
>>46505308
I self-identify as a half-elf, the ears and lifespan of a human and the arrogance of an elf, and I am triggered by this attack on my person. I demand an apology.
>>46505160
The fun thing with 40k is different books say different things
Not that is matters, Necrons win in the end no matter what you do.
Had they not gotten tired and fallen asleep they would have severed the Warp from the material realm.
They most likely will finish what they started.
>>46503419
"While the surface of the Fortress World of Cadia is now largely controlled by the Forces of Chaos, the skies above Cadia are almost entirely ruled by Lord Admiral Quarren and the Gothic and Solar Battlefleet Groups as well as fleet elements from several Chapters of Space Marines, leaving the ultimate result of the 13th Black Crusade a stalemate as the battle between the Imperium and the Chaos foothold on Cadia rages on. Having both space and air superiority gives a significant advantage to the Imperial forces, allowing the deployment of fresh troops and the continuous bombardment of Abaddon's trapped army on Cadia as the 42nd Millennium began."
Space always beats ground. Orbital bombardments. Keep trying, Abbadon. Maybe one day you can get your arms back.
>>46505388
>>46505388
Did you just use a warhammer wiki that's citing the RETCONNED EOT campaign results? My god.
No, the different books are not saying different things. Recent books are on the same page and are building on each other.
>Had they not gotten tired and fallen asleep they would have severed the Warp from the material realm.
Rectonned.
Newcrons have no project to disconnect the waro from reality.
And considering that the moment the Emperor dies space, time, and life will cease to exist, the Necrons are as fucked as everyone else.
>>46505464
EoT lore. Retconned.
It's as stupid as mentioning SoC while the ET is happening.
>>46505464
That and the unbreakable will of the people of Cadia.
And the Imerpiums ultimate trump card
CRRREEEEEDDDD
>>46503777
>This is all part of his plan which is called the Crimson Path, and the Imperials have played into it.
You can't be serious. Are you really this dense?
>>46505258
If you were a proper loyalist you wouldn't have this problem would you? Too bad the Imperium doesn't take scum like you.
>>46504017
So... now their orks? get original you cunts.
>>46505503
explain this retconning you flimsy fuck ( not the guy you're quoting)
>>46505503
Tl;Dr
>This new stuff that I love replaced all the old stuff that I hate. They won't eeeeeeeever do this again. No I've never heard of Rogue Trader, what's that?
>>46505510
Explain yourself instead of name calling. Oh wait, you don't have anything meaningful to add.
>>46505519
But I am not a loyalist doe.
>>46505503
So chaos lost so badly they actually had to have their shit retconned so they had a 'total victory?'
This isn't an achievement this is pity winning.
>>46505554
The Eye of Terror Campaign results were retconned away and the setting was rolled back to 999 41K.
The setting moved on and the fluff changed a lot since then. For example, the Crimson Path fluff was added, Maugan Ra Craftworld was saved before the 13th Black Crusade, etc.
>>46505558
I have no idea what you are on about
>>46505616
Total Grimderp Retcon
Nothing matters
the bad guys win
The entire setting is pointless and we should all stop playing/reading
>>46505631
>I have no idea what you are on about
and that's why we're all laughing at you.
>>46505563
Namecalling: loyalist doe
Stop. Please. Abbadon hasn't won a single Black crusade, Imperium has orbital superiority, and constant bombardments are taking their toll. You keep quoting black library novels and we all know that that shit is subjective as fuck.
>>46505616
But Chaos had a crushing victory in the EoT campaign. They had to pull out some nonsense about Battlefleet Gothic (which had few chaos players to begin with) results invalidating the 40k results.
>>46505616
Welcome to nearly a decade ago. Enjoy your stay.
And things were rolled back to 999 41K. So nobody won yet. They are expanding the lore slowly and currently Abaddon has planted his metal boot on the throat of Cadia.
Overall, I just love the Dark Eldar
Their equipment and vehicles are just look so predatory.
Fluff wise, it is funny how little they care about what goes on outside the Eternal City.
Eldar are cool too, just not as cool.
>>46501982
This makes me very sad
>>46505685
so this is an alternate timeline?
does it end with Eldrad in a fistfight with Abaddon on top of a moving Valkyrie?
>>46505646
Except you have no pointed out what I am saying wrong or what i am not getting.
You failed here.
>>46505654
>Abbadon hasn't won a single Black crusade
False.
>Imperium has orbital superiority, and constant bombardments are taking their toll.
See >>46505503
>You keep quoting black library novels and we all know that that shit is subjective as fuck.
Not as subjective as your shitty fluff knowledge. Go read a fluff book and then return.
>>46505654
Quoting Black Library is like quoting 4chan
>>46505685
No, you mean chaos forces slowly being forced back inch by bloody inch until the last heretic is purged from the war torn fields.
Its funny because in the IG and SM codex's they say that Cadia is fighting back successfully- but in the CSM they say otherwise. So don't get all giddy just yet and don't bring this to a fan-wank lore fest, I will prose the shit out of you.
>>46495366
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>>46496734
How come English speakers always fuck up ie to ei in German words? Are you guys just retarded like that?
>>46505764
>You failed here.
>>46505732
>so this is an alternate timeline?
No.
There is only one timeline and it's what GW says it is.
>>46505764
>Abbadon hasn't won a single Black crusade
>False.
Then please explain the 13th because last time I checked it was still in imperial hands.
>>46505764
If our fluffy knowledge is shitty then what the hell does that make yours?
>>46505768
>Its funny because in the IG and SM codex's they say that Cadia is fighting back successfully- but in the CSM they say otherwise. So don't get all giddy just yet and don't bring this to a fan-wank lore fest, I will prose the shit out of you.
As a guy who owns nearly all the codexes? You are full of shit. Don't fucking to me and the anons here, you degenerate.
AM and SM codexes simply says that the Imperium is preparing for the 13th Black Crusade.
Only FW and BL expanded on it.
>>46505764
>Except you have no pointed out what I am saying wrong or what i am not getting.
You're using BL lore. We've been over this.
>>46505786
>There is only one timeline and it's what GW says it is.
I know. My way sounds better though.
>>46505793
Your linguistic skills need work.
>Abbadon hasn't won a single Black crusade
>False.
ie one or more were successful, which is indisputable
>>46505841
>As a guy who owns nearly all the codexes? You are full of shit. Don't fucking to me and the anons here, you degenerate.
And just like that you've lost. I vaguely recall you saying something about name calling? Sorry that I blew a hole in your bubble, Anon, didn't know that being right would make you so mad.
>>46505764
>Except you have no pointed out
>you have no
>no
>>46505793
>Then please explain the 13th because last time
Ongoing conflict that is put on pause because the setting won't advance.
The last bits of fluff about it states that Abaddon smashed aside the defenders of Cadia Gate.
>>46505815
Supreme loremaster.
>>46505872
>>46505847
>>46505842
>>46505841
>>46505815
>>46505793
>>46505768
>>46505766
>>46505764
>>46505872
ok, he called you a name. now refute the point.
>>46505884
The last bits also said that Imperium had Orbital superiority. Shit both got blamd, so i think its just stuck at chaos owns half Imperium owns half, no overrunning or anything like that.
>>46505872
Name calling. I am not against name calling. I am very in favour of name calling.
And you blew nothing. You deserve to be name called.
>>46505842
Recent BL is as canon as the codexes. So fuck off.
>>46505884
>Cadia Gate
Where's that?
>>46505898
>>46505872
No, just call him a nigger. We have a tradition to uphold here.
>>46504876
>soon to be released video game.
Aw shit nigga, there's another thing I didn't know.
>>46505935
>The last bits also said that Imperium had Orbital superiority.
It did not.
In fact, Abaddon's forces went into other sectors.
Stop being wrong.
>>46505940
Using a form to back up your points. You are desperate.
>>46505966
superiority over cadia i think he meant.
>>46505953
Can I just continue to post Star Trek instead?
How about if I meet you halfway?
Remember how this thread was about our favorite stuff in 40k? can we get back to that?
>>46505985
That's the forum owned by Laurie Goulding one of the chief editors of HH series. He created it to get feedback from the fans.
It's a well known forum and it' called "The First Expedition".
As for you? You are less than desperate. You have nothing.
>>46506032
Agreed.
>>46506008
Nothing new states that.
>>46505793
Abbadon was merely pretending to be retarded
>>46506044
Yes we can, If Imperialfags apologize and renounce their craven ways.
>>46506049
You have the results of a retconned tournament and books that back track everything they say every other novel. How can you argue against someone who cannot stand seeing their side lose? I already said that chaos has a foothold, yeah, but you just keep going on with: 'NO THEY HAVE ENTIRE PLANET' I'm doing my damnedest not to lower myself to name calling but your making that shit more, and more appealing. As for what I have? Pride enough to know when there is not a damn thing you can do to win an argument over the internet and search for common ground.
>>46506075
>>46506105
>>46506072
I'm glad we could come to an amicable agreement.
Behold the bulge of Captain James T. Kirk.
SO! HOW ABOUT THOSE SISTERS OF BATTLE?
>>46506188
Wrong sister, Anon.
>>46506094
>Punch holes in the Imperium that never fill up
>Always retreats back to the eye with plunder, glory, and artefacts that he used to expand the power of his legion
>Organized and united the forces of Chaos and the gods themselves into the largest invasion force the galaxy ever seen
>Has become the Chaos Ascendant, He who rules over daemons and all men sworn to Chaos.
>From started all of this with just four marines, one dark eldar chick, and a daemon puppy
>The singular reason why Chaos is said to be the greatest threat to the Imperium of Man and the galaxy
In Abaddon is pretending to be retarded, then the Imperium is actually retarded. They couldn't stop Abaddon from rising.
Lets just go with Lord Lucan's Age of dusk thing and the one before it, that way everyone wins.
>>46506213
I can't keep up, are the lore bores saying this is happening, has happened, will happen, happened but was written out or is happening in a parallel story?
I shouldn't need a fucking diagram to keep up with you faggots.
>>46506128
Bla bla bla.
Lets cut to the chase. The EoT results are irrelevant. They have been retconned. The fluff have been moving past them and changing the fluff away from them since 5th ED. Quit saying quit saying that Imperials have space superiority and that they goin bombard Chaos away, nothing in the recent fluff states this.
>>46506188
The Sisters are really cool and don't get enough love.
What ever happened to the Sisters of Silence? They were cool. I miss them.
Just go with Age of dusk and Shape of The Nightmare to Come by that one 40K-fag, everyone gets what they want in that (Except the Eldar but who gives a fuck about them.)
This thread has turned into pure, unadulterated shit
I'm out.
Good luck in your circle jerk guys
>>46506304
Good question, don't remember exactly what went down but I think they got wiped out in the heresy.
>>46506294
>She is called the Maiden of Sorrow and the Weeping Girl
>mfw that game's devs give her the voice of an old man
ONE JOB. THEY HAD ONE JOB!
>>46506297
>Chaos got it's ass handed to it in the summer campaign
>Has to get coddled in the lore
>>46506297
Then stop saying Chaos has ground control. >>46506327
Please take me with you. I'm in too deep. The forgotten beasts are coming.
ciaphas cain
HERO OF THE IMPERIUM
>>46506213
>Launch Black Crusade, lose thousands of irreplaceable Horus Heresy veterans so you could get a melee weapon, flee back to the warp
>Another successful black crusade, u butthurt imperium fags
Carnac pls
>>46506372
I like you. Have a Horo.
>>46506327
>>46506354
I gave up 50 posts ago and just started shitposting.
I FEEL THE FAGGOTRY OVER TAKING ME!
IT IS A GOOD PAIN!
40k Sister version would be fun to see.
>>46491949
Celestial Lions and their run-ins with "ork snipers".
>>46506396
You just won yourself a Holo.
Wtf captcha a tombstone is not an apartment.
>>46506188
how about sister of battle (male)
>>46506375
>The fluff states outright that the Black Legions strength grows with each assault against the Imperium. The legions gets large and more powerful thanks to the favour of the Chaos Gods, glory and renown, and the resources looted
How is it possible? The gains outweigh the losses.
Also the First Crusade wasn't about just getting the sword. It was about finally ending the Legion Wars and restoring the traitor legions faith in themselves and reignite their passion for the Long War after the shame of the HH and the Scouring.
Abaddon is the reason that the traitor legions and Chaos as a whole are such a great threat to the Imperium because he slapped some sense into all of them in that Black Crusade.
This is explained in the Talon of Horus and the Black Legion supp. But it's too hard to read I guess. Typical Imperialfags!
>>46506427
Man the warp really did a number on Russ.
>>46506396
Imperialfags admit their weak resolve and their lack recourse when faced by the truth.
Victory for the LEGION
>>46506427
I'd give you something in return but I need it.
>>46506500
>Implying I'm imperial
Not nearly fabulous enough. Do you faggots even weaponize rainbows?
>>46491949
I hope 40k outlives carnac so we can talk about its lore in peace again.
>>46506535
Ulthwe will fall, by the hands of the Lords of the Night. Decimus will see to it.
This fate cannot be averted.
>>46505772
Because English and German work differently
In German you pronounce the second vowel, in English the first
>>46506169
Saved
>>46506605
Remember before the retcon when Eldrad mind melded with a deathstar and discovered that it was being possessed by Slaanesh?
Is that happening/will happen/happened/can't happen in this timeline?
>>46506714
It's part of the EoT which means it has been retconned and didn't happened in the current canon.
He is still alive and kicking. It might happen if the setting advances but I doubt it. Eldrad quest in the 13th Black Crusade was to stop the C'tan from destroying the last of the Blackstone Fortresses.
The C'tan are shards now and are not a great threat so he has no reason to be there.
>>46506768
>he has no reason to be there
They should just make him Q and have him be a dick to humanity with his space magic under the guise of 'testing them'.
>>46506375
>irreplaceable
>Legion keeps getting bigger
Quit making shit up.
>>46506605
>Night Lords getting FUBAR in their own book
>B-b-but the prophecy
If you wanna talk prophecies, you're bringing an edgelord to a Death God fight.
My favorite things, organized by faction
Space Marines: Exorcists, Black Templars, Soul Drinkers, alot of the homebrew chapters /tg/ made (Star Krakens, Black Locks, Rising Sons and Conservators are my personal favorites)
Imperial Guard: Savlar Chem Dogs, Vostroyan Firstborn, Praetorian Guard, and of course, The Death Korps of Krieg
Inquisition: Grey Knights, Deathwatch, Ordo Sepulturum, Sororitas Tits.
Mechanicus: Legio Cybernetica (yes, i know they arent that canon.)
Imperium In General: Officio Assassinorum, Horus Heresy, Volkite Weaponry, Sisters of Silence, Custodes,
Chaos: The Purge, Thousand Sons, Iron Warriors, Plague Marines, Rubric Marines, Mortarion, Plague Zombies
Orks: Boss Zagstruk and Da Vulcha Squad, Weirdboys, Kaptin Bluddflagg, Gorgutz 'Ead 'Unter,
Eldar: Craftworld Iyanden, most of the wraith units, Harlequins, Exodites
Dark Eldar: SPACE PIRAAAATES, Haemonculi
Necrons: C'Tan in general, Nemesor Zahndrekh, Trazyn The Infinite, Æonic Orb, Vargard Obyron, Crypteks, Illuminor Szeras, and Pariahs when they were still canon.
Tau: Nothing specific besides a few events involving them being badasses.
Tyranids: Lictors, Genestealers, most of their weaponry, and the /tg/ homebrew Hive Fleet Nidhoggr
>>46506923
>bigger is better
Enjoy your cultist spam carnac.
>>46506952
One warband of Night Lords got torn to shreds by a PL but managed to down her.
Decimus united the Night Lords warbands by the end of the book and directed them at Ulthwe.
Going by what we know about Ulthwe in 999 41K, the war with the CSM has them receiving unsustainable losses (source Eldar 7th ED dex). When the Night Lords strike, the Eldar won't be prepared.
>>46507034
>The Black Legion dominates the the Eye and all other legions and daemonic warlords there for 10 thousand years
>Lore states that they are growing stronger and bigger with each assault and each victory
Quit being wrong.
Are you so entitled that you think your opinion qualifies as lore? You are such an asshole that you didn't even admit you were wrong about the First Crusade being just about that sword. How do you live with yourself? Seriously!
>>46506923
>we may have lost the entire special forces but it's okay because twice as many 16 year olds just signed up for a 1 week long try out !
>another great victory
>>46507161
Where are they getting these brand new 10,000 year old veterans from then?
Enjoy your cultist spam carnac.
>>46491949
This is a great thread with some great pieces of lore I wasn't even aware of. No I'm really looking forward to reading that bit about the IG captain getting teleported on Horus' ship.
I don't have much to give, but please accept this image of the warp.
>>46507161
>Abaddon has fought to rebuild the pride and reputation of the Black Legion, always leading his forces into the most dangerous conflicts personally. At first Abaddon won the grudging respect of the other Traitor Legions, but as his deeds have grown mightier he has succeeded in winning their support too. His impassioned words have rekindled the Traitor Legions' smouldering hatred of the Imperium and warriors of all the Legions have fought beneath his banner.
>Abaddon built his reputation with a series of acts of almost suicidal bravery, personally leading attacks into the most heavily defended positions and miraculously prevailing. Gradually it became accepted that the Gods of Chaos themselves had shaped his destiny and that Abaddon was the one who would lead the traitor legions to redemption through victory.
>With every assault Abaddon leads, the strength of his Black Legion grows. In the minds of the Chaos Space Marines, success is a sign of the Chaos Gods' favour, and Abaddon is now seen by many as the natural successor to Horus. Only the Daemon Primarchs wield as much power as the Warmaster of the Black Legion.
-CSM codex.
It's a copypasta that gets copyed from one codex to the next. So it's wonder why people don't know about the growth of the Black Legion.
>>46506968
> Vostroyan Firstborn
my nigga , i'm afraid we'll never get plastic kits for all the special regiments though
on the bright side i recently found a pretty good reason to incorporate them in my army : i'm going to add a vostroyan only formation to my army
>>46500935
I need to know more
>>46507034
>Carnac
Go fuck yourself. Not every single person capable of actually reading what the fluff says is your boogeyman faggot.
>>46507350
Lies.
It's always carnac, fool!
>>46507242
From other legions that flock to them with each victory
You said they were irreplaceable. They are plenty irreplaceable.Stolen Geneseed, Fabius clones and geneseed experiments, Imperial traitor marines. All of these replace them and wit this the Black Legion grow stronger and keeps being the dominate force in the Eye and the singular most threatening force for the Imperium.
>>46507278
>lead the traitor legions to redemption through victory.
>currently on attempt 14
here's a wake up call for you anon it's retconning and grains of bread to keep chaos players happy because some of them can't deal with the fact that they're the bad guys
abaddon is a scooby do villain, only instead of disappearing after losing once he comes back the next episode and says getting caught was part of his plan because there was an unholy relic hidden up the shitter in his prison cell
>>46507372
and those come with 10,000 years of experience how? Massed untrained hordes aren't going to do shit.
>>46506304
I really, really hated the idea of the Sisters of Silence. I hated the look of their armor, I hated how they all had those dumb topknots (Everyone had those fucking topknots in 30k, were they what was in-fashion or something?), I hated how they didn't speak for some reason or another. I also hate how they're all female, too; what the hell do they do with the male blanks they find? I like the idea of an all-Untouchable fighting force, I just hate how it was executed.
>>46507093
>Lose entire warband in your own books
>'We got some good hits in though'
NightLord posturing is adorable. You are threatening the prophecy faction with prophecies.
>>46507381
Except that's wrong.
In old and new fluff, Abaddon's Black Crusades weren't about taking Cadia or going to Terra. They were about achieving specific objectives and growing the strength of his legion. Some Black Crusades were surgical strikes by a few warbands of CSM while others were massive invasions.
There was no retconning except for EoT.
You see, guys? This what I mean when I said Imperialfags are cancer. They don't know the lore but feel entitled to force their opinions on us as if it's the actual lore while acting smug about it.
>>46507233
How is rebuilding the Imperial Fists going? Remember that time you lost thousands of Blood Angels to Abaddon? And that wasn't even the only time BA got wiped.
>>46507438
Normal marines and renegades are more than a match for legion CSM these days.
And remember that time in the eye is wonky. They might to be 10K veterans in the first place.
>>46507480
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