What sorts of factions would pop up in the immediate aftermath of the apocalypse, besides small survivor groups?
>>46481217
>Where is the apocalypse taking place?
>Who survived the apocalypse?
>What kind of apocalypse is it?
Fuck's sake, give us something to work with.
>>46481302
Since OP a shit: Modern day zombies? Good question, horrible pitch.
Mostly just co-operative agricultural networks. Forget all the gun-ho shooting and raiding shit. People would be starving, not raiding.
>>46481388
That'd probably have people who still believe that zombies could be brought back to life. An individual might have a zombie they knew locked up in the basement. A group of similarly minded folks might have even captured hundreds of them and if you look at the captured zombies you could see some pieces of food the fools decided to waste in an attempt to feed them.
>>46481388
Um... modern day zombies... right... assuming classic shamblers
>Where is the apocalypse taking place?
Nowhere, because there is fuckload of means to stop them without any effort at all
>Who survived the apocalypse?
Pretty much everyone after initial few days/hours of confusion
>What kind of apocalypse is it?
The cosiest of them all.
Examples: Shaun of the dead
Assuming something fast
>Where is the apocalypse taking place?
Fucking everywhere
>Who survived the apocalypse?
Random people here and there that were super lucky in the initial few days/weeks
>What kind of apocalypse is it?
Humanity extinction, could be entire eco-system collapse if they attack anything else than humans
Examples: remake of Dawn of the living dead, 28 days later (yeah, I know, infected =/= zombies)
So the sole zombie type affects you here
>>46481217
The fucking government, you stupid cunt. Regardless of what American fiction taugh you, countries don't collapse within hours under slightiest pressure
The ambitious conqueror
>>46481217
Somebody saw that lots of soldiers wear kneepads at their ankles and never thought to wonder why, I see.
That actually bothers me more than the mandatory derpy shoulder armor.
>>46481603
Epic shitpost
Congrats on being the first That Guy in the thread
>>46481217
Remnants of government agencies that tried to manage the crisis.
Bodyguards for VIPs
Military and police units
Navy crews at sea, especially subs. Nuclear subs would generate electricity that would be the core of rebuilding civilization.
Hospitals and other care sites. Troops dispatched to protect them would end up leaderless and might join with the hospital administrators by default.
Farming communities-- the farming itself would be a problem but the modern farm is a big organization that's isolated enough that they might be able to kickstart something.
If it's something that hit quickly enough, small local colleges in rural areas might survive. The college president would summon up the local campus police (which already answers to him), close the campus for the sake of the students still there, and then later dragoon them into helping manage the catastrophe and/or join the militia. Faculty would be interesting because they live off campus and most are frankly dead weight.
What you need is a defensible location, protected by armed/trained/organized troops, clear preexisting lines of authority, and a variety of skills. You don't need all of these, but the more you have the better you do.
Be sure to follow a power law in the size of your groups. They shouldn't all be the same size.
>>46481217
FACTIONS?! Did someone say FACTIONS?!
>>46481217
Governments. Militaries. Police forces. Possibly religious groups. Anyone with authority or higher access to food/weapons/safety OR large groups of like-minded individuals.
Also cults of personality
>>46482434
not OP, but I'd like to think that chances are, in the more immediate aftermath of an apocalypse scenario (like, say, mass nuclear strike), at least two or more of those groups would quickly make it an objective to try to link up in hopes of increasing stability and survival odds.
Also, funny enough, farming communities, at least in nuclear attack predictions I've seen, would be low priority targets, so, in theory, as long as fallout doesn't infect them too badly, food sources wouldn't be having too much trouble. There's a lot of 'maybes' though.
I'd say in more urban areas, primary objectives after some level of survival is ensured would be to stabilize power sources, if only because something like a nuclear plant without a crew could be disastrous. Like, worse than a direct nuclear strike.
>>46481813
What are the odds they will inevitably talk about old glories and try to recreate them?
>if 4channers became wasteland warlords there'd be people trying to bring back the Nazi Reich, the Roman Empire, Czarist Russia, the Prussian Empire, etc. etc.
It could be pretty funny.
>>46481217
Remaining Government
Rebels against said Government
Unmutated Religious Fanatics
Mutated Religious Fanatics
Capitalist Pigs (Actual Mutant Pigs)
Communist Dogs(Actual Mutant Dogs)
I can't back these up, these would probably take a while to develop, I just feel they'd be fun
>>46481217
sewer cults
>>46481217
>immediate aftermath
Maybe I've just read too many john wyndham novels, but there'd be a problem with a couple of communities of middle class people trying to set up fascist/tribal states that slowly collapse via infighting and the middle classes having no useful skills outside of an office.
but basically you'd have
>>46482884
The problem is that in this day and age even poor people barely have skills. You have people who have worked minimum wage jobs their entire lives beyond counters. Just because they live in a shitty apartment and have to be worried about getting mugged means they know how to keep a car working or even grow a plant.
>>46482712
>Rebels against said Government
Why rebel against a something that is to small to govern properly.
Just loot and pillage and become a bandit king of your private piece of land.
>>46483128
Who said the government shrank? It's the old government trying to reassert control.
Traders. The armed, prepared business owners who defended their stock from the looters and kept a stable flow of food, water, meds and tools to those that could bargain for them. They work in small blocks, each picking off looters and thieves, no matter who they target, as even hamstringing your competition is bad business.
The Neighbours. Residential areas quickly divided into small groups, fighting and allying as day to day needs suited. They're the primary customers of the Traders and targets for Raiders.
The Raiders. Your classic dispossessed looters-turned-killers who banded together after the infrastructure failed and the Traders started shooting on sight. They roam, forming temporary settlements and striking out at random. if they find a juicy Neighbourhood they can milk, then they fortify and drain it for all its worth before moving on. They don't frequently ally or come into conflict, as they know they're just getting by, but will come to blows over staking claim to a particularly wealthy Neighbourhoods
The Scavvers. The dispossessed who chose not to devolve into animals. They survive on their wits and skills, scavenging, stealing, trading and working for their meals before moving on in search of greener pastures.
The Suits. Prepared, trained and educated, they form different groups based on a number of different factors. Corporate types hold up in their high-rise offices surviving on scavenged goods. Government employees living on what remains from the infrastructure collapse. They come in all shapes and sizes, usually with niche skills that can earn them a living from other groups.
The Shields. Police, EMTs, fire department, FBI, even national guard. Rather than devolve into factions like the rest, they strive to uphold some semblance of society, running refugee camps, distribution centres and taking law to the lawless.
>>46482884
>but basically you'd have
Jeremy Clarkson, James May, and Richard Hammond tooling around in Botswana?
>>46481217
Religious nutters and bandits, mostly.
>>46483295
I'm surprised religious groups aren't mentioned more here.
You have a ready made pseudo code of laws, hierarchy and centres of community that are dispersed everywhere and popular in the more remote areas that are likely to be the last to collapse. Of course you're going to see the locals turn Taliban 2.0
I'm not sure if it's ever been talked about, but what would happen to special forces groups? Shit like the SEALs or Delta Force?
>>46483241
The Brains. Researchers, scientists, doctors, students. They're seldom seen by most others, usually subsisting on some campus green living farming and solar project, protecting libraries and specialist equipment that will be needed in the future. If you can contact them, they're sure to having something you need, which they can provide for an obscure or confusingly simple price.
The Docs. When the hospitals collapsed and the power went out, people ran for their homes, leaving their loved ones in the care of those expected to stay. Nurses and doctors were forced to establish a hostage business. If the families of the sick pay their bill of food and meds, then the hospital continues to treat their loved ones, but without it, they can't afford to treat them. They aren't technically breaking their oath...it's just triage.
The Dockers. Cargo ships lay in their docks, unable to make trips anywhere without fuel and crew. The dock workers and sailors, often trapped and unable to return home, band together and live off the cargo they were hired to ship. These are the ultimate traders, with access to incredibly rare and niche materials. Imported sports cars, jet skis, boxes of 2000 unicorn necklaces, jars of celebrity breath, they have it all.
>>46481217
Read my novel and find out.
>>46483385
Usually they go home to their loved ones, at least that's what happened in eastern Europe and Africa during societal collapse.
Reminded me of this image.
They wouldn't. Society would reform the same as it's survivors remember it.
>>46481454
Unless you have guns, all your preparation and hard work basically amounts to growing food and collecting stuff for the guys who do.
>>46482346
He has a point. Zombies make for shit apocalypse.
>>46483241
>>46483428
I guess you can now call yourself Prince of the Trite
>>46485504
There's no place without guns, and there's little economic room for widespread raiding pay in a modern post-apoc setting.
>>46481217
Apocalyptic Christian Cannibals. They figure the people who died of the disease were actually "raptured", and that they themselves weren't holy enough. And since we're all children of God all humans contain a bit of the divine. By consuming humans in a totally fucked up communion ritual eventually they will be raptured themselves. Most of them feel that way anyways. Some of them are in it because they like eating people.
