Any comments on how Tohaa play to someone thinking of getting into the game? I like their distinct look

So, is it safe to post, or is this one gonna disappear in a few minutes too?

So what are the chances of getting some new cheerleader sculpts this year? Line Kazaks are old as balls. Metros look fine, and Grunts look great, but they're only AVA 2 in vanilla.

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>>46459111
Rule of Three: the faction, basically. Everything comes up trips.

>>46459111

I think Tohaa have a slightly higher learing floor to get into but not nearly as much as many others make it out to be.

There are a lot of very niche special rules if you dig deeper but for you first games you can easily stick to the more basic units and don't miss much.

The only two unique rules you probably HAVE TO know are Fireteam: Triad and Symbionte armour.

Fireteam: Triad is pretty much just a unrestricted fireteam for a maximum of three guys that can also be taken in vanilla.

Symbionte Armour is ablative armour represented by wounds that can't usually be healed (there are exception for this now) and if you loose all of those wounds (normally 1) you drop to a slightly worse unit profile.

>Not including the character creation link in the OP

http://infinity.modiphiusapps.hostinguk.org/

>>46459471
fix your builder first Modiphius

OK, let's try again: anyone got a link to the old CB gallery with unit fluff?

>>46459586

Here's a catalogue:
http://infinitythegame.com/catalogue/

I'm sorry I don't have the old gallery.

>>46459586
https://web.archive.org/web/20150101161258/http://www.infinitythegame.com/infinity/facciones/
Enjoy

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>>46459586
https://web.archive.org/web/20120206051335/http://www.infinitythegame.com/infinity/en/facciones/

Couple minutes of google-fu. Obvs you aren't a Nomad player...

>>46459715
>>46459764
Thanks!
Also, I'm a filthy alien.

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>>46459828
50/50 chance on this...

Tohaa?

>>46459131
New Ariadna starter (that will most likely double as a Kazakh sectorial starter) will be eventually released (probably after usariadna releases) and it will obviously have new line kazak sculpts

>>46459131
Need for cheerleader re-sculpts: 100%
Chance of us getting them: 0%

>>46460232
Why
So they releases inaccurate to game stats sculpts? Or beautiful scuplts for trash units?

I've been out of Infinity since just after N3, can someone hit me up with what's new?

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Reposting funny comic from the end of last thread

>>46458934
How good is the Reverend Custodier compared to something like an Interventor? They seem popular but their low speed seems really bad.

>>46460232

JSA still needs some resculpt work on their starter, but with ISS's new digs I don't think it's out of the equation. The increased interest in Ariadna might bring about some resculpts as well.

But they've got their hands full with new units they want to get out anyway.

>>46460290

We got hit with HSN3, which will be out fully in early May. Lots of reworks to existing units, pretty much everyone got some unit with a Haris option, some dudes got new profiles, there's a few new unit profiles in the mix, and Pheasant is still overcosted but got a few extra toys and lost the superfluous Mono CCW.

Basically, dreams can come true: the rulebook.

>>46460252
>So they release sculpts inaccurate to game stats?
It's been like that forever; plenty of unit profiles don't have models.

>beautiful sculpts for trash units?
They're slowly going around doing resculpts for different factions. It'll just take a while. Keisotsu and Zhanshi really need updates as well.

>>46460341
Ariadna hasn't had a new model since the Tankhunter, barring Voronin. We're due the Spetsnaz HMG this month, so I'm hoping that paves the way for less USARF and more Vanilla.

>>46460405
>spetsnaz hmg
Only took them two useless spetsnaz releases fuck

How accurate is the poll in the OP for army numbers? I'd have assumed Nomads weren't a popular choice.

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>>46460341
Pheasants have now been replaced with the Raktoraks as most useless and overcosted unit. Though PanO players will tell you Teutons should be the top contender. Fuck that I say.

>>46460341
>Basically, dreams can come true: the rulebook.
YJ now drinks PanO tears, if the last few threads are anything to go by. And it's glorious.

>>46460302

Ideally you have other models to bring up the board for them. A Moderator with Markers (or whatever they're called now, "Pitchers" I think?) can move up the board and fire off a Repeater, which gives the Custodier range despite being stuck in the back. With ODD she's a bit more durable, and with a Sin-Eater or something guarding her back she can focus on Hacking what gets into Repeater ZoC upfield while watching for Infiltrators and cheeky cunts from behind.

With Haris and the ability to Fireteam with a Healer/Kusanagi, I think they might get a lot more aggressive in Sectorial.

Nomads seem to have a couple predominant theories about how to use Hackers:
>Corregidor: bring your Repeaters with you
>Bakunin: bring your Repeaters to the enemy
No idea how Tunguska spins it just yet.

>>46459131
Besides the ISS starter coming out next month, I wouldn't think so beyond each new starter, and when is that, roughly every eight months?

>>46460568
>Tunguska spins it just yet.
Well, Interventors have fastpandas and are the tech-and-hackers dudes among nomads, so probably along the lines of
>Tunguska: Your repeaters are already there. Your repeaters are everywhere.

>>46460561
>>46460565

Securitate still fit solidly into the "why bother?" category. I think Igao might also be benched as well.

Ninjas just got a second cheap TacBow profile to sweeten their deal with a KHD. Seems like KHD is an assassin's weapon, and basically the Paramedic to HD's Doctor (and HD+'s Doctor+.)

>>46460497
4chan is the father of the Nomad spirit Anon.

Also, Icestorm got a lot of people starter on either PanO or Nomads. They're the two most popular factions in flamestrike.

>>46460629
I am guilty of this and I feel terrible. Now I'm just one of the four guys playing Nomads at my LGS. Should have gone with Aleph

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>>46460629

Honestly, being a refugee from 40k myself, I joined Red Team out of a little bit of rebelliousness and eagerness to explore the new options available to me, of which Nomads have a lot to choose from.

But PanO did have it's draw with space knights that looked a whole lot sexier than the space knights I was used to. Starter set seems to have capitalized on it, the two safest starter factions in easily recognizable colors.

>>46460624
Securitate will be looked at when acheron falls shows up

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>>46460405
Still waiting on the rifle one.

>>46460723
Aleph is too focussed on faggy Greeks right now.

I'm looking forward to giving the new Deva and Asura Lt profiles and posthuman rules a try in a generic list though.

>>46460772
>http://strawpoll.me/5146634
Also, a Beret? Spoils it, IMO.

>>46460624
Securitate are pretty interesting. They have the potential to be good, but have too much. Igao, I have used to some effect, but it either requires some forced shell games with a Clipsos/Minelayer Clipsos or it's best not to bother with at all.

Raktoraks still are and forever will be the most useless unit in Infinity. Who pays that much for a Combi Rifle w HFT or a Vulkan Shotgun. No V:Dogged, no extra wound, no Mimetism, no special leadership rules like Strategos or Free Agent. He's just unadulterated bollocks.

>>46460624

igao still shit? Bwahahahahaha stupid beanfolk
guess tohaa can't get all the op shit

>>46460810

Haven't examined it in HSN3 yet. Might have gotten a bit better, but a Frenzy Camo model is still weird. Still, for 26 points, it's a good way to play the shell game with Clipsos and go berserk on some rear-line cheerleaders. Situational, but not sure I'd go for it.

>>46460793
Why does raktorak exist anyway? At least Igao and Teutons had ideas behind them what's the fluff say about them?

>>46460792
> Hating the VDV Beret

Go back to earth.

>>46460629
>>46460728
desu this is the reason I've not lept at them yet. I think they look the coolest, but if everyone and their sister plays them, maybe I should look elsewhere.

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>>46460847
The fluff for them is that they are NCOs within the ranks of the Morats. Yet, they have nothing that would suggest that. Aside from the fact that they can now make Haris teams with Suryats... whooptie fuckin' doo.

He gets picked off, and you are back to a Duo. Better off sticking with the Duo and grabbing that sweet, sweet new Zerat FO profile with a Boarding Shotgun.

>>46460793
According to the main forums spoilers Raktoraks are now specialists. Bearing in mind that you probably want Kornak anyway and don't care how obvious he is, the Haris link with a specialist and an HI fronting seems pretty damn tasty.

See people backing that up with Yaogat Haris (now with a hacker) plus Oznat smoke-pumping core link. Couple of specialists (one in group 2 storage) and you're done.

>>46461001
Chain of command and/or number 2 would be thematic
Also the ability to link with any other morat fire team would be nice

>>46461047
Raktoraks are kind of a useless piece of shit on their own, so they certainly fit the pattern for having Chain of Command.

>>46460954
I don't hate them, I just don't think it fits the Ariadna aesthetic. I'd far rather see them in a pilotka, or all in respirators like the BS Para loadout.

>>46460114
I'm more intrested in a figure that he is slashing.

>>46461077
Look man pheasants aren't so bad now so quit bein salty

>>46461077
>chain of command
>specialist
>shit
You're stupid

>>46461077

Guess my myrmidon officers, kaeltars and farzans are trash then :^]

>>46459471
I just copied it from the last thread, sorry.
Also that app is still broken.

>>46460302
Custodier is a bit more durable than Interventor and can bring her own Pitcher. She can be a bit less worried about going out in the open.
Also you can link them and soon there will be a Harris option; if hacking stops breaking links like it does now it could be a viable choice.

Personally I use Custodier over Interventor because of the Pitcher and the sculpt.

>>46461342
>if hacking stops breaking links like it does now

It has stopped breaking links now.

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>>46460561
I've no idea how bad Raktoraks are, but what happened to Teutons came out of nowhere. It's a solid "WARUM?". They weren't even particularly good before. Did they dominate Spanish meta or something?

>>46460624
People don't complain about Securitae as much because no one remembers they exist. And there's several shiny units that do their job better and more in Nomads and they're vanilla only to boot.

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>>46461047
Problem is MAF, doesn't need Chain of Command. I doubt they would give that to Vanilla CA so it sucks in that regards.

If they had Number 2 and could plug into any fire team and had Specialist Operative I could see them in a Yaogat or Soggie link.

WIP 14 would be nice.

>>46461032
Yeah, I see that they can Haris from the pages. Just wish they could join Core. They don't have to go too crazy with these guys, but hell a little bit of tactical ability could help. Shit, even an ADHL would be interesting!

Also, I want to like Yaogats, I really do, but they are not that durable for their cost. Oznat lobbing smoke out is nice. With the changes to the Fireteam rules I would def have no problem with bringing a Hungries core and chucking a smoke grenade out for the Yaogat Haris. Not a terrible proposition. Leaves points for a Zerat FO with BS, and a Suryat Duo... Potentially a Rasyat.

Was kind of hoping Rasyats would get a Specialist Operative profile.

>>46461172
The Vanguard Hacker? It's a nice model. Really wish I sat down and got to painting all of my Morats and CA. Kind of wanting to do a reverse black with red highlight armor and yellow as the miscellaneous color.

>>46461436

Stupid fucking spics are trying to be anti nazi
Fucking retards

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>>46461518
>Poland dominates
>Teutons get their shit kicked in
>Bostria is revealed to actually be Karol Bostrowski

>>46461565
NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
after 600 years POLAN finally has vengeance...

>>46461518
>>46461565
>russian faction of ariadna/nomads gets ignored too
definitely some "polan stronk" stuff going on here

waiting for tunguska.jpg

>>46461640
ACHERON FALLS
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>>46461487
Noticed Raks got Specialist Operative and a Red Fury profile. And can join Core or a Haris of Suryats...

I should have read the page... alright, Teutons suck. I retract my former statement.

Pic for evidence that I am just someone who doesn't "reed gud".

>>46460992
It'll depend on your local scene as well.

Over here, for example, it's looking like CA is the most popular faction.

>>46461657
That was working title. It's Poland Falls now.

>>46461680
Is there any artwork of Nexus Operative inside the books? And what about upgrade page for CA?

>>46461680
I think Raktoraks are good enough as filler for Suryats links. But they're profiles dont match their fluff in the slightest and giving them Red Fury is just meh.

So what happened to the Teutons?

>>46461268
In MAF CoC is absolutely worthless. Morats dont ever go into LoL.

>>46462638
>Teutons lost courage. With how Religious works it's probably for the best.
>They cannot be linked.

With exception of DeFersen and Teutons, everything else got better.

>>46462850
>DeFersen
that change stings a bit, but honestly I prefer AHD because it has all of the offensive programs. I can fit a cheap fusilier hacker or get one of those new EVO for the fairy dust.

>Teutons
Ouch. But never took them, so eh. Also they're still the cheapest BS14 models in the game.

>>46462638
Chain of command is still a specialist
So no not worthless

>>46462850
Courage actually says you can choose the result of your guts roll but I'm not sure if it even interacts with religious troop

>>46463039
Obviously being the cheapest bs fourteen models isn't enough for people to take them
Use your brain a little spaniard

>>46463187
and Raktorak already has Specialist Operative in his profile. So CoC would be absolutely pointless since he's already a specialist in an army that never goes into LoL.

>>46463216
Religious forces you to stay put, unless you make a roll to duck away. Courage lets you choose the outcome of that roll.

>>46463234
Well, I'm not a spaniard. Also I never took them because I dont like their models.

>>46463187
Wait, CoC is a specialist?

>>46463234
They're in the same spot as Domarus, but worse.
Yeah, cheap BS14... On a unit with Frenzy and CC focus. At least they have a Panzerfaust. And when every other knight has BS14 too. Not worth sparing the points on a Teuton when you could take a Father-Knight instead.

But look at that, Magisters are cheaper, also have panzerfausts, can be linked (with other, bigger knights to boot) and can take a Missile Launcher into the team.

Unless it's some kind of typo or omission, unlinkable Teuton has overtaken ORC as the shittiest PanO HI. ORC was just boring, this is simply pointless.

Now if it was linkable (and maybe even with the Magister glue), it would be a whole another story. Or if they at least had Duo.

>>46463274
Obviously I didn't know specialist operative was given to the raktorak but it looks like even that doesn't save them

>>46463500
At least Domarus can link. And with Haramaki. Or Duo.

>>46463435
It is

>>46463575
Again I dont think the Raktorak is that bad as a Suyrat link filler...but if that's his entire purpose, then CB ought to rethink the profile for a more multi-purposed unit. I think a Forward Deployment option would be cool especially with Specialist Operative. Free Agent maybe?

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>>46460114
No, CA. Also a dual-flamer Batroid. Go along dear :D

>>46460302
Who needs speed when you have Markers? I meant Pitchers.

>>46460497
Quite accurate it seems. Nomads, especially Corregidor, are quite popular lately.

>>46463575
Well, it saves the starter one from eternal shelf-warming, and gives me some motivation to convert the HRL Suryat. Pic related.

Every now and then I'm seeing people, fluffy newbies or otherwise, looking for unit backstories, and since CB's lazy and figures that making a proper gallery would cut too much into their beach siestas I'm making a doc with them. Will be done in a few days, let me know if you want a particular faction really bad.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/116M600ywaWJdYXm2UQAlt2ytcDo83q0Q-69PKYsG-rI/edit?usp=sharing

>>46463885

Well, Nomads, duh. Could run by popularity in the OP.

I wouldn't mind getting the scoop on ALEPH, actually. Possibly CA too and Tohaa. Let's give the least common factions some love.

>>46463885
I'd enjoy Aleph.

>>46463885
I don't get why they didn't integrate that sort of thing into Army 6. It would have been a perfect opportunity to rebuild the old catalogue and improve the army builder for new players.

>>46463885
You should allow the doc to be edited so others can help.

>>46464028

They have enough problems just getting it to work right.

>>46464028
mañana

>>46463932
>>46464015
CA is done, order in first red cell is what I intended. I can do Aleph next, it's shorter anyway.

>>46464028
V said he wanted to do something like that, like pics/blurbs integrated with Army like the wiki is now, but it's kinda low priority for now

>>46464064
Not my work style (also, I'd have dicks drawn all over and half the stuff deleted within 5 mins and I don't know how to revert edits), but if you really want to, feel free to download and make an alternative version.

>>46463885
Yu Jing was prioritized. Good.

we should make a wiki(a)

>>46463274
So then courage was pretty redundant already on Teutons
Why didn't they fucking fix this shit twice in a fucking row

>>46464160
>Not my work style
Fair enough. You'd be surprised how few dicks might have ended up in the doc.

Some websites like Miniature Market have the unit fluff added in the product description. Can pretty easily open a million tabs, copy, paste, move on.

Have fun with that.

>>46463885
>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/116M600ywaWJdYXm2UQAlt2ytcDo83q0Q-69PKYsG-rI/edit?usp=sharing
If you'd be happy with copypastas from the old CB site I'd be willing to help out. (I'm not up to speed on some faction's fluff because fuck aliens)

Ariadna fluff done, Aleph next.

>>46464177
Because I play it :P

>>46464228
I'm doing just that but with the old CB gallery for more officialness and less errors. When I'm done with that I'll add the new releases and stuff from N3.

And may I recommend the folder that doc resides in (is it even accessible from the file or do I have to post a specific link?), it's where I keep possibly-useful Infinity stuff for the internet.

>>46464177

An Infinity Fluff wikia doesn't sound like a bad idea. We have a rules one already.

>>46464183
Nooo. Religious is redundant. Courage basically overuled Religious. So the Religious skill on every MA Knight is redundant in terms of Guts Check.

But Religious affects the Trooper in Retreat. So there's that

>>46464787
Courage affects retreat as well iirc

>>46464821
yeah, you're right. Same effect as Religious in Retreat

>>46461268
>myrmidon officers
>trash

Kinda, paying 1 SWC for them is pretty shit, especially now that there's Feuerbachs and HMGs to be bought in your Thorakite link.

>>46465330
HAHAHAHAHAHA
NOT EVEN STEEL PHALLUS IS SAFE FROM IBERIAN RETARDATION

>>46460341
>>46460565

>Free CC boosts everywhere
>some recipients even got price cuts
>nothing for YJ overcosted basic LI

Well done CB.

>>46465457
They're dirty greencarders what'd ya expect?

I just finally got home and on my computer after adepticon. I killed my data spam-saving the screens but I havent kept up, anyone have a dropbox of all posted HSN3 screens before I go through the last like 4 threads?

>>46465330
I think she'll be easier to fit since I wont be taking Phoenix as much....But even then, I almost never needed CoC in SP

>>46462850
I think Teutons can still be linked if they are chosen as your Order. But the done get to go on up with magisters unlike the hospitaller or santiago.

Theor lack of a specialist leaves them exactly where they were while everyone else largely got buffed.

Can a co-ordinated order be used to activate two hidden-deployment TO models with the same order?

Is anyone talking about the new JSA link options? putting domaru in haramaki makes them really good, b5 spitfire with lt option and missiles for reactive.

>>46466054
The fourth footnote says "up to 4 Keisotsus + Yuriko + 1 Kempeitai"... 6 man link? Go on then.

I wonder if the Teuton change is because CB are worried about the potential of a unit making a Damage 14 EXP, Burst 4, CC 27 attack as a normal roll.

>>46466245
Damage 17 even

>>46466245
Doubtful, they have no issue with a B3 Dam 19 Viral CC22 -3 to opposing rolls attack

>>46465734
>I think she'll be easier to fit since I wont be taking Phoenix as much....But even then, I almost never needed CoC in SP

I agree CoC is a luxury I mostly can live without, but if I'm taking Phoenix less, it's not because of his points increase or his loss of the assault pistol, it's because there's just more good options competing for his 2 SWC.

I feel like the core of my lists will include

Thrasymedes linking Thorakites with at least a Feuerbach (2 SWC)
Drakios with Red Fury (1 SWC)
Agema missile or Atlanta (1.5 SWC)

that's 4.5 already, then there's optional extras like a hacker, Machaon, a TR bot.

I get that it's not the only way to play but from my experience with these new profiles so far I feel like these will be mainstays for me, The Red Fury on Drakios especially makes a world of difference to his threat level.

How does Stun ammo work now? I hear it changed a lot in the new book?

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>>46466245
>I wonder if the Teuton change is because CB are worried about the potential of a unit making a Damage 14 EXP, Burst 4, CC 27 attack as a normal roll.


>Ajax + 3 myrmidons = 87 points
>Has smoke for closing the distance
>if he uses NBW for bonus effect and berserk with the 3 myrmidons in the melee that's
>PH 20 EXP, CC 31, B4, normal rolls

>>46466569

instead of doing a wound it puts people in the Stunned state which is
> Can't declare attacks
> -3 to all rolls except ARM and BTS rolls

Flash ammo forces a single BTS save and failing it puts you in this state.

Stun ammo does two BTS saves per hit and failing it puts you in this state.

Multi weapons have a B1 stun mode now.

>Finally get Drones so I can comfortably run MAF at 200.
>All these arm options.
Do you guys magnetize these suckers? What size magnets am I generally looking for that'll fit this scale?

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Going to be using this guy as a black friar for a while. I'm replacing the spitfire with a multi rifle and adding a sword, and I'm torn on weather to sculpt a hood, thoughts?

>>46466483
>it's not because of his points increase or his loss of the assault pistol
It's party that for me. His changes makes him a lot more competitive in comparison to the other myrmidon officers since they now all cost roughly the same.

Atalanta will definitely be making into more of my lists. I like that she loses G:Synch'd Spotbot for Tinbot Spotter especially now that neither the controller AND the Servant/sync'd cannot be in a Coordinated Order. Also she's 4pts cheaper and Spotter is a passive skill in both Active and ARO.

Drakios is looking SO much better. And I like that Scylla's Cybermask also masks her Devabot Charybdis.

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>>46466823
>nerfing sand niggers qapu khalqi

Yeah I sure hate being able to field HRLs in all my links and having Sekban who were already great buffed and dropped in price and being able to make my Odalisques a scoring Haris and Bashi Bazouks having surprise shot and getting a 0 SWC option for Djanbazan that has better range.

They may not have been the biggest winners, but nerfed? nah not even, the only thing they really lost was Azrail links which were kinda niche anyway.

>>46466717
Neko + Domaru+3 Haramaki.

going berserk so +6 to already CC 24, Martial Arts L3 for another +3
Making it B4 CC 33 PH 18 AP+EXP normal rolls.

Yeah, seems like quite a few people can have this so that is a moot point the the teuton change.

>>46466197
I would presume the five man limit to the link teams supercede that.

>>46467268
I played QK for the first time this weekend, I asked him what made it so good and he deployed a link team of 4 hafsas and an Azrail, saying "you'll see why they removed this in HSN3" and although it killed like 3 fusiliers, I took it down relatively easily. And especially since you can't hide your lt as well since I now know hafsas are ava 4.

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>>46467194
I'm also thinking about making pic related drop bears for him and my locusts. I think he's only going to come in vs nomads, he's very VERY anti-intruder.

>>46467343
I wouldn't, because I'm an opportunist and the book says six.
:D

>>46467397
You realize other armies could form 6 man links before right? Well if there wasn't a 5-man limit, like with units that say "X can join any Y link team"

>>46467477
SSSHHHHHHH
STOP RUINING MY DREAMS

Also captcha just told me to select food and there was a kebab/gyro. I wasn't sure if it counted.

...it didn't.

So does a weapon with E/M actually kill or turn people unconscious or does it only have the effects of IMM and Isolated?

>>46467365
I'm a bit bummed about no duo on Azra'il's but not too bothered about the loss of general Azra'il links.

1 or 2 Azra'il + 3 or 4 Hafza seems kinda scary initially but in practice doesn't work that well as you saw. Duo to efficiently move 2 of them around would have been pretty sweet though.

>>46467519
Just IMM and isolated. It's probably worth noting that EM CCWs do both normal and EM damage however

>>46459111
Adding to what others have said. Because of the Triads Tohaa are very order efficient. This also leads to not having a lot of Rambo style troopers since the idea is to create fireteams that have synergy. A normal Triad will be composed of a gunner, a specialist and a support Makaul, which have Zero-V smoke grenades which help moving up the board.

Symbiont Armor makes the Tohaa somewhat hard to remove from the board and makes even light infantry troopers have 2 wounds. They do have a vulnerability to fire though, but in Human Sphere 3 it's getting buffed. Before, failing an ARM roll to a Fire weapon meant insta death, now only the Symbiont Armor gets fried off.

The other unique thing the Tohaa have is Pheroware, which is a form of biological hacking, the thing is the troopers that use this skill can't be hacked like a normal hacker, which gives them a slight edge, even though so far the only access we have to this is through one use equipment.

>>46460846
He's getting upgraded in HS3. i-Khol is gonna impose a -3 within 4" not just CC, to any face to face roll.

Flash grenades now will be stun grenades. And the profile with boarding shotgun dropped a point.

>>46467343
Fuck it, more specific overrides less specific. I know it's a printing error but hey. I won't have a chance to run a 6-man link later :P

>>46467551
It was just a bit more scary since I had never played them before and I only saw ghuilam since they were holoprojector L1, he even made a courtesy list with them too. He screwed me up with a drop troop but I made sure that never happened for the rest of the tournament.

>>46467710
It's not a printing error, you can use up to 4 + yuriko + kempetai, so yuriko and/or kemp plus the rest being kiesotsu.

>>46467743
The others say or, that one doesn't.

>>46466823
>This must the spics way of giving the middle finger to Germany for the shitskin problem
How long until CB is bombed by some pedophile worshiping sandnigger when they find out about the Haqqislam faction.

Anyone know when the infinity tabletop sim stuff might come out?

>>46468256
when they make Muhammad a playable unit
give him NBW, Stratigos 3.

>>46468492
Yeah, the guy making it probably knows when that stuff might come out.

>>46468578
wouldn't he also need paedophilia lvl 12

To anyone with holoprojector units, how expensive does it usually get to buy fake models?

>>46468578
>>46468602
He also gets +3 CC in base to base with female models

>>46468865
I don't know, I use tokens. Though for holo 1 purposes I've never used it as anything I didnt already have

Irish and trying to get into the game. Even if you aren't, any tips on how to find players/convince 40k players to invest in two dozen models or so?

>>46469054
Say they're gay/protestant/catholic if they don't buy in?

>>46466981
I can't wait to use these guys, they're one of the hardest intruder counters out there.

Does anyone know if albedo only lasts through round 1 and if it carries the zone with you? I can't make out the text on the rules scan.

>>46469341
>Does anyone know if albedo only lasts through round 1 and if it carries the zone with you? I can't make out the text on the rules scan.

It lasts 2 turns from when you deploy, so generally it's the entire first round, but if for example an AD trooper had it, it would be a full round from when he arrives, which could be half each of two separate rounds.

it's not an actual zone, you just count as being in a white noise zone to other people regardless of if you are or not.

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>>46469341
More like Friday and Speculo counters. Finally a true hard counter, though I do think some hard counters take away the challenge and fun in engaging those impersonators.

>>46467654
>Pheroware
It'sHackingWithFartsEssentially.jpg

>>46466789
>Playing Infinity
>Most WYSIWYG/proxy friendly game ever.
>Super spindly arms
Don't do it, anon. Keep your sanity. I'll look up the magnet size for you, I need a pic of the arm with something to scale.

>>46464504
I'd really like to do something like this, or at least be a part of it. Even if it's a 1d4chan kind of thing.

>>46464177
You have no idea. My ISS has been reinvigorated. Article on Data Sphere said new Wu Ming in potentially June-July. There truly is a God.

What would be the main difference between playing an HMG Intruder and a MSR one? So far I've been only playing the HMG one and had little luck with him. Now with a full Wildcat link I'm thinking of changing my approach.
Sorta because my friend got very indignant about how Sniper Intruder is shit and he's generally being a know-it-all faggot because he got wrecked by Poland style playing a few times... Despite having been equally as wrecked by a 10 order TAG list.

>>46470508
msr is better in reactive, hmg is better in active obviously. you tend to see the msr more as an aro piece, and sometimes both.

>>46470508
Its role really. The HMG is meant for hunting, the MSR is meant for ARO. Now, can you hunt with an MSR? Sure. Just be aware that the lower burst can hamstring you.

I'm partial to the MSR since we can get far more mobile beatsticks.

I'm really torn on how I should finish off this NCA list, I have a really open amount of points left over:

5 fusiliers, 2 missiles

2 FO auxilia

2 Locusts, 1 drop bears/BSG, 1 assault hacker

1 black friar, multi rifle/drop bears

group 2

doc, engineer, 2 palbots

EVO hacker mulebot


From here I have 54 points and 2 swc. I've been thinking: HEXA sniper + peacemaker/garuda tacbot, or bulleteer spitfire, TR bot, drop a palbot and put a fugazi in, or just drop the friar for an aquila hmg and something else. I haven't tried the peacemaker, bulleteer or drop troops much before, and I don't want to overdo it with aros, any suggestions?

>>46470847
Peacemaker is the Mech Deploy, right? Do that for more board control with those Locusts.

You might want a hunter... Something durable with a high rate of fire weapon.

>>46470508
The HMG intruder's an excellent all round fighter. The MSR's a lot more limited. It's an excellent sniper, but somewhat lacking in other respects due to low B and poor close up characteristics.

Seeing as you're putting a lot of points into either, I greatly prefer the flexibility of the HMG. MSRs are for Spektr and Sin-Eaters.

>>46470847
I'd say you need another strong offensive long range piece. You've got some good options for everything else one way or another.

Anyone kind enough to give pics of the fluff sections of the new units?

Summaries are good as well.

>>46470899
>>46470947
Good point, I think the aquila hmg will do more than the friar. I may keep it in list 2 for nomads. Then I just drop a palbot for a shotgun peacemaker and a medic upgrade on a fusilier.

>>46471070
Toni died is all I know.

>>46471082
I dunno, I think having an Albedo dork as an ARO piece covering dudes with camo/odd on turn 1 is going to be very, very strong, and NCA definitely has the troops to take advantage of that. Worth experimenting with, at least.

>>46471274
well the multi rifle isnt the best aro piece, and only it gets albedo. You can't really go wrong with the aquila usually.

>>46471350
I think the idea is the albedo lets a hexa or swiss lay into MSV troops with no fear of retaliation

>>46465457
Just use Keisotsu and CGs.

>>46460629
I pretty much always describe nomads, and in particular bakunin, as rapture crossed with 4chan. People get it pretty fast.

>>46471463
Celestial Guard are only 2 AVA in Yu Jing, but Keisotsu are Total so it's cool.

>>46471350
even at -3 for cover and -3 for range, the friar hits on 7s with both DA and the new and amazing Stun ammo as options, and a msv shooter can't do anything about it. Not very good odds, but how many times does your opponent want to risk his intruder or aquila at the very beginning of the game?

But, if by some miracle you go first, you can move the friar up the field a bit and go into suppressive fire. No msv sniper can do a thing about it, and those comprise a significant portion of the commonly used long-range gunfighters.

>>46471519
Yeah, but you gotta use both. CGs for Kuang Shi, hackers and maybe the FO shotgun now. Keisotsu for everything else.

>>46471458
Oh, when I asked someone said it wasn't a zone, just on him, can anyone read the text?

>>46471520
stun ammo is a thing? wow. Well if I do take a black friar multi rifle, what would be a solid longer ranged piece? something like a swiss guard hmg to go with it?

>>46471247

Died as in what sense? She got transferred to CA as well?

>>46471463

Even CGs are slightly overpriced.

>>46471683
An umbra jumped on her tag, grabbed it's head and fried it, which in turn fried her brain/cube.

>>46471744

If only if were that easy to kill those OP shitbags.

>>46471683
CGs are paying 1 point for 3 bts and 1 CC, which is a pretty bad deal, but their real problem is having very few specialist options. Ghulams get a lot out of their FO choice.

>>46471848
FO comes with HSN3 with BSG for like 13 points.

>>46471848
Celestials also get 14 WIP for that point increase, which is situational but good for their hacker.

>>46471561
>Oh, when I asked someone said it wasn't a zone, just on him, can anyone read the text?

>>46405710

Oh ma damn... SMGs have two ammo modes at the loss of one burst? YES PLEASE.

>>46471848
>>46471905

It's actually 2 pts for the WIP and BTS over the ZhanShi base, which is pretty decent, but they still have to pay for the extra CC crap anyway, which is not decent.

>>46472176

Wouldn't extra B actually be better most of the time?

>>46471999
Thanks, couldn't see the screen I had taken.

>>46472176
SMGs are B2 now?

>>46472229
I'd prefer the versatility of the ammo types. It makes the new Wu Ming SMG+Chain Rifle profile that much more useful.

I can engage heavy armor at any range with one of these guys filling the link and one of the long range guys. At sort range, with Shock, I can reliably put down V:NWI and normal 1W duders.

Besides, the range bands are not that terrible on the SMG.

>>46472248
Nah, they dropped to B3. They used to be B4 I thought. Maybe I am confusing it with the Molotok.

>>46472331
No, they're B3 in N3 base.

>>46472331
Pretty sure they're B3. You might also be confusing it with Assault Pistols, which are B4.

>>46468492
Sorry friend I've been busy with work/finding a better job, I'll be getting the rest of the S templates sorted out in the next day or so and then it's mostly making the shiny pictures to put on them.

not sure what the safest way to give contact info around here is (I'm not a fan of getting a shit tonne of spam because I namedroppsed) but if people want to help out/get early renditions of it and can suggest a safe way, I'm totaly ok with that.

>>46472331

Nah they were always B3, Getting shock back as an option is awesome though.

So what are those Nexus fellas anyway? Exrah? Humans?

>>46470947
>spektrs and sin-eaters
Not Corregidor.

>>46472787
I'm assuming more vat-grown Ur creations. Just like the Unidrons and Ikadrons. Could be something else entirely especially since it has Wounds rather than STR.

>>46472358
I'm talking N2 though.

>>46472371
I could swear they were B4 in N2.

>>46472935
They were B3 shock in N2, but some figures had 2 of them, thus making them B4.

>>46462179
Really?
Acheron sounds waaay cooler

>>46461001
They are the "morat butler" based off the hilarious fluff in the original hs book where the Raktorak runs under the cover of fire to bring a chilled bottle and glasses of some alien wine for his superior officer. I am quite content with the specialist profiel and i think finally fits the fluff and points value.

>>46473588
It was C:Paradiso, not the original HS. Same book Suryuats got their first profile change.

Now we have their fourth profile incarnation with whopping three models ever released. I honestly liked their old models a bit better, as those aren't just dwarven Sogarats.

>>46471744
>An umbra jumped on her tag, grabbed it's head and fried it, which in turn fried her brain/cube.
be a remote tag pilot possibly the safest job in the Pano military. Combine come alone and have the tech to fry your brain through your TAG .
>Fuck.

>>46471247
>Toni is kill

So, so far we've lost Ko Dali, Toni and Izzat Beg (and Odysseus, if that counts). >>46471247
That leaves us with Nomads, CA, Tohaa and Ariadna (possibly ALEPH), who haven't lost characters. Any bets who will lose one next? Tohaa is pretty safe as they have only two chars. I'd bet either Naish Skeskiin or some older Nomad character, like Zoe.

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>>46471247
Because I could not stop for Death,
He kindly stopped for me;
The carriage held but just ourselves
And Immortality.

– Emily Dickinson

>>46473924
CB won't touch Nomads.

anyone ever happen find painting miniatures from a to z scans?

>>46473924
>>46473983
more importantly we've seen redesign work for zoe, however I get the feeling they don't kill of characters because they want to kill a character, more because they decide the character doesn't have a purpose any more.

>>46474061
fuck accidental namefaggery

also getting real shitty with this new captcha, the pics are too small to see shit.

>>46474061
What design rework are you referring to? Mothman did a fan art concept, but I don't remember seeing anything new about her.

I agree Zoe is relatively safe, as are Kowalsky and Bran since they were some of the original PCs from the creators. Then again some players are willing to let their characters go...

>>46471744
>An umbra jumped on her tag, grabbed it's head and fried it, which in turn fried her brain/cube.
The Umbra seem to be showing up a whole lot, but we still know nothing about them and they're still uninteresting. Is there any fluff in the book that explains what they are beyond edgy aliens that the EI throws at problems it doesn't want to deal with itself? Or something that actually makes them intriguing and mysterious?

>>46474072
Just switch to v1. It's much more convenient, and you can easily refresh it if you get something intelligible.

>>46464504

I'm willing to help set up something

>>46473983

They have already abandoned Nomads for pan0 as their pet faction. Wouldn't be surprised when they sacrifice their characters to seal the blood pact.

>>46464504
Would the fluff be divided Wargame | RPG, or all together? The RPG fluff is supposedly all approved by CB.

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What is special about Onyx? Morats are space monkeys with morat rule and no LoL. Shavasti are space frogs with their own rule and spam of camo markers. Even vanilla has their EI units with high WIP and mnemonica rule. Onyx has nothing special to it, and their only selling argument is only haris with 2 TAGs lol.

>>46474061
Certainly, you're correct. Toni always overshadowed its younger sister's chassis. I do hope CB did wrote Eduardo (name of Toni's experimental Tikbalang chassis) as predecessor of modern Tikbalang frame. It's fine, if you decide to retire/kill character, but I find it cool to provide some info on his legacy.

>>46474483
Onyx seems to be based on the idea of mobile units supported by heavy guns. It's definitely less cohesive than Shas and Morats, though.

>>46474746

Honestly, if they wanted to keep Toni they'd need to redesign her TAG to not have it be 'Tikbalang+'.

It's just not a good design space.

>>46474483
Onyx are an elite stike force made up of the best the EI has on hand if it doesn't want to deal with the dumb ape guys or the slime frog guys. They feature lots of dron variants and various elite troops like the Umbra or the Sygma.
Game-wise Onyx has nasty Unidron links, the Xeodron Haris you mentioned and high AVA of very solid troops. They tend to be pack big guns or be very mobile, sometimes both. They are less 'in-your-face' than Morats and less sneaky than Shasvasti, but tricksier than either.

Anyone else got Voronin yet?
Anyone else disappointed that it's either/or for the two options?
I mean, I should've seen it coming, but it's still pretty irritating. I'll probably mill a hole through the larger base to fit Voronin's smaller one in, and put a sheet of plasticard over the bottom of the larger one to hold it.

Also Dragon Lady gams are real.

>>46474934
If you don't go for Unidron link or Xenodrone haris there is no selling point on them compared to vanilla. Increased AVA is nothing, their units are expensive enough so i don't see any reason to pick 3 Umbra in one game. If you want to make a Rodok link, MAF is much better option for that.
Their tried to combine both sectorials, but i think that vanlla is much better at this and allows you for more flexibility.
Their highest AVA is 5 Rodoks(, 215+ pktlike in MAF), then 4 Xeodrones(it's worth 220+ points) and 3 Umbras(120+pkt).

Their units doesn't shine with anything except 6-2 MOV umbra, Fraacta transmutation and new TAGs.

They don't have anything that bonds this army together. Lot's of REMs? But they have only 1 engineer option with AVA 1. Mimetism/super-jump maybe?
All their units are paper thick with exception of TAGs and suryats(which can duo in vanilla too).

I think that Rodoks and unidrons are their best units, but you can't link both.

>>46475452
You can link Rodoks in MAF, but MAF doesn't have TO units. Morat links+Shasvastii fuckery is a potent combination, and the excellent Sygmaa and Unidrones are icing on the cake. I'm going to be playing some Onyx until Acheron Falls hits simply so that my glorious MOV6-6 TO rape machine can get link team support and rape even harder.

The new TAGs and Umbra are okay too, I guess. I might pick up an Overdron, they seem pretty sweet.

>>46475236
>Anyone else disappointed that it's either/or for the two options?
Yeah.. but is was told on the forums... If he has the two options will have released in a box.

>>46475638
I was kind of hoping he was, especially given the higher price.

>>46463885
Fluffy doc is finished, updated with new releases, the only stuff left I'll have to type in from books.

>>46476910
>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/116M600ywaWJdYXm2UQAlt2ytcDo83q0Q-69PKYsG-rI/edit?usp=sharing
I'm personally interested in the Shikami. Is he a ninja, a samurai, samurai ninja, non-character saito togan? Some sort of secret agents? Some sort of showoff related to the Haramaki?

>>46477266
I know it'd be work, but including pictures where you can would make this a really, really comprehensive guide.
Not that it isn't pretty good already.

I met this YJ player this weekend who made a point of being annoying as possible using the actual Chinese pronunciations of every unit, and correcting everyone who said it slightly wrong. There aren't even official pronunciations, you don't need to go full weeb.

>>46477377
>chinese
>weeb
That aside, I can understand wanting to really get into your army and pronounce it right, but you really shouldn't go full autist and expect others to put the same effort in.

Especially when that language isn't commonly spoken in the west. Like, it's one thing for spanish or something, but Chinese? Give me a break.

>>46477433
Exactly, even Japanese sounds easier. Like Chinese pronunciations make you take the accent of inflection which sounds retarded. Like "kuang shi" vs "kuang shuu" who cares I don't need to be corrected 10 times.

>>46477266
Doing good work anon

>>46477451
Japanese is actually relatively easy to pronounce.

>>46477451
I think this is a common problem when meeting my fellows irl. They feel uncomfortable/nervous so they instantly try to establish some sort of superiority in the conversation via their knowledge of trivia, not realising that they're irritating those around them.

I mean, if I want to bring linguistics into a game that's only semi-popular I can, but correcting others makes me a shithead unless the person actually asks why I'm saying it that way.

>>46477377
>There aren't even official pronunciations
You think the pinyin with tone marks is just a suggestion?

>>46477377
Eh, I don't completely disagree with him. Sometimes it's nice to pronounce things right but as long as it's clear what you're referring to, it shouldn't matter because stuff like "Hac Tao" meaning black magic is wrong anyways.

That being said, I've got a disdain for those who pronounce Ayy-leff for Aleph. It's like they don't know their Ayylphabet. You can say co-wee-gedor instead of Corregidor and stuff like that, I'm not going to bother. It's a wargame, and there's a lot of "foreign" names one may not be used to saying. I'm not going to bother you if you say you're shooting my gwee-lang instead of my Guy-lang, I get your point, let's have fun.

Guise

minimarket is having a spring sale.

For example, the new Guijia is 24 bucks.
http://www.miniaturemarket.com/clearance/sales-bf.html#/?_=1&filter.manufacturer=Corvus%20Belli&page=1

>>46477573
I said Ayleph in my head for so long, as I'd never discussed it in person. When I learned otherwise, I still didn't say it in person. I try to remember to say/think Ahleph, but, force of habit.

>>46477620
I hate you muricans for having such a good infinity store.

>>46477620
>domestic shipping only
Well I'm out.

>>46477573
>co-wee-gedor
You play against Wossy?

>>46477737
I'm not sure if it's necessary to say, but with a hard G too. They're gringos, so I don't expect them to roll their "r"s. Nor should I.

>>46477620
That's pretty cheap, even after I apply all the price bumps of being Australian to it. Righto.

>>46477659
Flat rate/free domestic shipping only. They do international, you just need to pay for normal shipping.

>>46477573
>co-wee-gedor
That's not a mispronunciation, that's a fucking Elmer Fudd-style speech disorder.

>>46477620
Holy shit this is great, I hope I have enough time to place an order at lunch so much I want is so cheap.

Just picked up a Sphinx, Umbra Hacker, Quack Sheep, and a Guijia. The first 3 were for my FCOF and ISS. The Guijia was a guilty pleasure purchase.

>>46478380
You can always move into vanilla a bit so you can use your Guijia. Plenty of ISS units work well there, and you get access to great toys like Hac Tao, Daofei, Aragoto, Tiger Soldiers, Guilang, Tokusetsu and Yan Huo. I started in ISS and it's still my main, but vanilla YJ has some really nice shit as well.

>>46476910
There are a few units missing that can be found in the web archive of the old CB site.
https://web.archive.org/web/20150103092930/http://www.infinitythegame.com/infinity/en/facciones

>>46474875

And that's where we're going to see design cuts: things that can't be balanced well in the game or even fit well into the rules. Exrah fit there, among other reasons like clashing with the design they were taking the setting and notoriously destroying their molds, Ko Dali might have been a fluff choice, I'm not sure about her Character previously. Toni seems like pure "we're not going to make a character TAG that's a duplicate of an existing one and also has to balance with its regular version." They've got Scarface for Character TAG and that seems like it because goddamn is it cool.

>>46478913
Which ones exactly? I put in everything I could find in those galleries. I know Max Skorpio and GoGo Marlene are somewhere in their news section, but that's for later.

>>46479206
Exrah wouldn't have been that hard to fit into the rules imo. Umbra have a lot of the elements that Exrah had, and most of the serious design fuck ups like the Vector Operator's smoke hopping capability are easily identified. The Exrah were just half-baked in general, so the spaniards understandably decided that fixing them wouldn't be worth the trouble.

>Toni seems like pure "we're not going to make a character TAG that's a duplicate of an existing one and also has to balance with its regular version."
Pretty much. CB noticed that nobody used the regular Tik because Toni existed, so they decided to kill her off and give all Tikbalangs her profile.

>>46479436
Deva, for a start. I'll have a look for others.

And peacemakers sell out before I get to lunch fuck me.

>>46479919
I'll get the lubricant.

>>46478590
That's the problem. I have so much stuff for Vanilla. I have all the Dao Fei, Yan Huo, Tigers, Hac Tao, REMs, and a full JSA complement.

Gonna get my new Su Jian and Kanren from a seller on Bartertown that does 35% off shipped. Eventually the new IS Starter and Wu Ming as well.

>>46479973
What about the Guilang? Yu gotta have the Guilang.

>>46477620
>buy over a hundred bucks of stuff
>only 60 now

Thanks man, now I have more money for more metal minis at my LGS.

>>46479436
>>46479739
http://pastebin.com/DHfLD7MP
http://pastebin.com/Xq4e49VX

Here's Voronin and the Proxies for you to add, I'll post if I find more

>>46480124
Only thing I can find on Max Skorpio right now is:
>"Listen, buddy. This can go down easy and boring: you drop your guns and give yourself up, I collect your bounty. Or it can go down nasty and fun: you resist, I shoot you full of little holes and cash in all the same. Either way, I win."
>Max Skorpio during the apprehension of renegade corsair Sebastian Müller at the Nox-5 Autonomous Orbital Redoubt, Human Edge.

>>46479739
But Devas are in. If you were looking in the PanO section bc Neoterra, units are always in their original faction, so no merc Kempeitai for example (unless their description differs from the original one)
>>46480124
I was just about to add proxies, thanks for informing me that Voronin fluff is out, wasn't in the news last time I checked. I'll pass on the pastas though as I'd have to verify these anyway. Just the names, please.

>>46480014
I have both... All the Celestial Guard, Hsien, old Su Jian, Sophotect and palbot, and Zuyong. You name it I probably have it except for the EVO REM.

Just scored the Dr. Worm pack plus the unidron and daturazi boxes for real cheap, meaning I now own all of the new- sculpt Morat except the Rodoks and the Oznat and all the new- sculpt CA but the Legate. How do the cool kids play CA without shasvastii?

>>46480273
You can play MAF which arguably became better with the update.

If you go Vanilla, bring a nice mix of EI/UR/Sygmaa and grab some cheap Morats to fill in the ranks.

>tfw when I'm still waiting for more Suryats

I still need to get Rodoks myself. Waiting for them to go on sale, or I'll pick them up from that Bartertown chap.

>>46480240
Devas weren't when I last looked, maybe it was just before you added it. Voronin's fluff is from the CB frontpage, Proxies are from the old factions site, as I linked previously.

>>46477620

Damnit, missed Aleph starter and Rebots. Hell, starter was in my cart but someone else checked out before me. Sometimes they restock in the middle of these things though... I got a Dire Foes pack on the last big sale after a mid-sale restock.

>>46480634
All the good stuff goes fast. I finally have full AVA on them Quack Sheep.

>>46461640
I don't know...apparently the peruvians were amazed that pollacks weren't thrilled with the release of teuton knights as "their" unit.

>>46481052
>tfw I have 9 zombies bc I might need a bs pointman for when I link them once a decade and they now link with the controller

When I look at the aleph range I just think "man what should I proxy for devas/garudas in NCA. Noone knows what the actual models look like anyways."

>>46481373
How is that 'their' unit? They changed its fluff in HSN3?

>>46481729
Because "they lived in roughly the same geographical region, good enough"

>>46481631
I don't have a problem with Garudas. Most of the shots I've seen of them look pretty OK, mostly a generic bot with the suggestion of wings, though I guess they could be crappier "in the flesh". Devas though? No paint job I've ever seen makes Devas look good. Might suggest proxying with Scylla, she controls a devabot so it wouldn't be that far off thematically.

>>46481770
Teutons are germans, WTF