Pathfinder General - /pfg/
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Unified /pfg/ link repository:
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Ultimate Intrigue leaks:
>classes: http://imgur.com/a/tlwEX
>feats: http://imgur.com/a/PA4eT
>items: http://imgur.com/a/RzJiF
Old thread: >>46420012
what are the important stats for a vigilante.
>>46427836
Justice and vengeance.
>>46427859
Be sure to max those things like crazy. Put some "LARGE HAM" in, just for good
Question for you /pfag/s.
Do you consider an oracle's curse more of an asset or detriment to a player mechanically?
I ask because one of my players is arguing for a curseless oracle (technically it's a flavor based curse, rather than anything mechanical) and I'm not sure how that would shake out balance-wise.
>>46427899
Curses are a double-edged sword.
Haunted is neat, Tongues is okay, Burnt is... unfortunate. I cannot, however, recommend Blind.
>>46427817
Guy who's used this picture for character art in previous games here. This isn't a character from any fiction, it's just part of a set of interesting character designs. The anon was asking for build ideas based on the character's look and feel, nothing more. Here's another from the same set.
So can you like... Do anything else to improve the Warlock's bolts?
>>46427899
Oracles have curses. Its just how they are.
>>46427890
Now, see, I know how important HAM can be, but I've been looking at the SRD, and I can't help but wonder if it's worth it putting a point or two in Cheese. What do you think, too MAD?
>>46427899
Depends, some of them are relatively mild enough that it's not too bad even before you start getting the extra effects.
>>46427899
Balance-wise, the Oracle is damn strong even with the curse, so giving him a curse that doesn't hurt him at all should obviously not give him any interesting or good powers in return.
You get out what you put in, effectively, and if your curse doesn't do anything meaningful, then you shouldn't get anything meaningful from it.
>>46427933
Got a link to the full set?
>>46427899
Curses vary widely in terms of benefit or detriment. The Tongues curse is easily ignored just by having someone else in the party who can speak the same language as you, and the Lame curse doesn't matter if you already plan to wear medium armor or heavier. Meanwhile Clouded Vision can be a huge detriment, and you don't even get See in Darkness out of it
Does anyone else fill out flashcards for encounters? If so what do you write down? Is it the entire statblock with a small tactics section, just the bare details? If so, what do you consider the bare minimum?
Posting this again for any feedback.
>>46428055
Kami and outsiders still need to breathe, baka. Plus getting to choose between a second bonus stat they can change at will or incoporeality is way too strong when combined with PoW.
>>46427935
Can get kinda MAD but it's worht a try.
A little cheese can always help
>>46428083
>Kami and outsiders still need to breathe
We literally just went over this
>>46428113
I don't see it anywhere, familam.
>>46428083
Throw your computer in a woodchipper buildposter
How to statting Serah Kerrigan / queen of blades. Infested Terran / primal Zerg form.
Her primary powers seem to be drawn from psychometabolism, telepathy (all psi index 5-8 terrans are psychics), telekinesis (psi index 8-10 terrans are rare enough to be thought a myth, but they're the ones that actually have telekinetic powers). Serah and Nova are as far as I'm aware the only class 10 terrans. Kerrigan once infested became class 11, and after she undid the head fuckery in sc1 she was class 12 (arguably the most powerful psychic in setting, barring stuff like multiple merged archons). After going primal her psi index was apparently off the damn charts.
>>46428102
Yeah, but if you go for the cheese too, you have to put points into condiments for balance.
>>46428138
Not until you accept that you've been told.
RAW can you take a free action off of your turn?
>>46428168
No, except for talking.
>>46427963
http://www.jasonnart.com/new-page/
>>46428195
Cool. Tons of cool character art I'll never get to use in a game, but oh well, at least it's fun fodder for ideas. Thanks for hooking me up.
>>46428168
Mesmerists can when activating their tricks or Painful Stare, but otherwise not that I know of.
>>46428168
Only if the ability specifies you can. Armiger's Mark, from the Warder, is one such ability that does so.
>>46428150
Screw condiments. Just go Full HAM AND CHEESE , if your GM get's mad just throw some snacks at him and everything should be fine. Trust me
>>46428176
>>46428218
Thank you. DM invited his dipshit friend who argued with me for 30 minutes saying he could use a free action in response to an enemy's attack. Nobody else at the table said anything and I felt like I was taking crazy pills.
>>46428264
>a free action off of your turn
>Alchemist suddenly tier 1
>>46428264
Is he legit retarded?
>when you're a paladin but you run 1s on saves all session
ahhhh
>>46428264
>saying he could use a free action in response to an enemy's attack
Was he talking about AoOs...?
>>46428124
>>46428161
No shitposter, you've been told
Straight from my copy of Bestiary 3, on my bed.
Suck my dick
>>46428466inb4 photoshop response
>>46428083
>or incoporeality
Did you actually look at the doc? The entire reason I reposted it is because I changed that.
Outsiders breathe, but do not need to eat or sleep (although they can do so if they wish). Native outsiders breathe, eat, and sleep.
>>46428562
>Native outsiders breathe, eat, and sleep.
Except when explicitly written otherwise
See>>46428466
>>46428597
Native outsiders and outsiders from the prd, except where otherwise specified
>>46428705
That is what I implied
>>46427935
It makes an ok alternate build. You usually take the points out of vengeance and move them that way.
>>46428743
So... why bring it up?
Do any deities have claws as a favored weapon?
>>46429007
Because I was correcting the generalization made in>>46428562
My party is made up of a crossbow ranger, a fractured mind spiritualist, and a life shaman. What should I play? Paizo only, 20 point buy.
>>46429252
A wizard or something so your party can actually accomplish tasks
>>46429252
>Crossbow Ranger
That poor bastard.
Sounds like a bard might be what your party's gonna have need of.
>>46429044
Apsu? Or was his Bite?
>>46429289
Fractured Mind means they already have a charisma guy.
>>46429288
Don't be THAT faggot.
So, how much gold would achastitybelt cost?
>>46429318
Are we talking magical or mundane?
Plain or nice looking?
Crude or comfortable?
For boy or for girl?
>>46429318
10 to 50, then any special materials, plus the cost of the lock.
>>46429339
Well much like there's qualities of locks I'm assuming there'd have to be multiple quality levels for the belt. This example let's just say a mundane, plain but comfortable belt for a girl.
I'm also assuming the size of the creature would play a part, so let's say Medium. Humanoid also.
How do I pyromancer, /pfg/? I've found a few different choices like Flame-Spirit Shaman, DSP's Pyrokineticist prestige class, andFire Kineticistbut I figured I'd check to see if there was something I overlooked.
Blasting is obviously an advantage, but ideally also something with the ability to not fry teammates, and the ability to not be useless when something fire-immune comes along, either due to some ability to penetrate/negate/remove immunity or just the ability to do something else (buff, control) while he can't deal damage.
>>46429480
30gp
>>46429550
A Spheres of Power Elementalist.
>>46429318
I imagine that on the high end, one could have very comfy and sleek magical chastity belts with a high price tag on them.
>>46429550
To elaborate, a Spheres Elementalist using the new stuff in the Destruction Handbook to up your damage. There's also a thing in there to exclude spaces of your choice from the areas of your blast shapes.
>>46429550
Vigilante (Warlock)
>>46429550
Dragon/Orc Crossblooded Sorcerers be Dope. +2 damage per die on all fire spells. Add half your level if you're a half-orc.
>>46429288
Didn't we tell you to fuck off last thread?
>>46429699
???why this anger?
>>46427923
Legalistic is pretty good, just be careful about what you say and to who.
what are the best 3rd lvl builds?
>>46428055
So a few questions, what happens if it merges with a sword, is it able to attack with itself?
How does it move if it merges with something without self propulsion?
Can it cast spells if it merges with something that has no mouth?
>>46429252
What do you enjoy?
What do you want to play?
You seem to be missing a front line, so with paizo only the go to would be druid, cleric, or paladin, but there are other options.
>>46429785
Because I'm sick of the PLAY A WIZARD SOLVE EVERYTHING meme.
>>46430091
>So a few questions, what happens if it merges with a sword, is it able to attack with itself?
Right now, no, but I should probably add that in.
>How does it move if it merges with something without self propulsion?
>Can it cast spells if it merges with something that has no mouth?
It still has its own stats, so it can do everything a normal creature can. Presumably it grows legs/a mouth. That's why it gives a Disguise bonus to look like an inanimate object instead of being able to automatically pass as one.
>>46429252
Something melee and tanky, by the looks of it. I'd suggest Warder if DSP was allowed. Maybe Paladin or Barbarian, or possibly a melee focused alchemist.
>>46430146
Those things were not explicitly stated there so I wanted to make sure the intent was fully conveyed.
>>46430123
I enjoy Path of War, but since that isn't an option I figured I'd ask for opinions. I was going to go Magus at first but I'm playing one in another campaign so I didn't want to look like the guy who plays the same thing every campaign.
>>46430231
Big ass brutish Investigator
>>46429252
Where did the synthesist summoner go?
>>46430340
He tends to switch characters a bunch, much like I do.
>>46430231
If you don't want to go Magus my suggestion is Barb, Paladin, or CODzilla. CODzilla doesn't really look needed, so I would lean more to Paladin or Barbarian. My personal choice would be Paladin because I like them more.
>>46430231
Investigators focused on the Monstrous Physique extracts (TL;DR four-armed gargoyle natural attack build) are beast, and can do a ton of things outside of combat.
Bloodragers are really fun in terms of just murdering stuff. You can even do it in full armor or on a horse via archetype, and you get to have some Cha, although not a lot because you're probably just casting self-buffs.
Paladins are great frontliners. Also Cha.
Summoners, ditto. Mounted lancer summoners are cute.
Wizards are gods, it's not a meme, it's true, pretending it isn't true won't make it go away. All other classes exist to tank for, coupe de grace for, or save spell slots for the wizard. It's just the nature of the beast. In my games wizards are NPC-only classes who have inherited a shard of the one true God. It helps explain their imbalance without forcing me to actually deal with trying to balance spellcasting.
Let's see...hunters are a little like summoners, and while they do better ranged they're perfectly respectable melee or mounted and their animal companion is pretty much the best in the game.
Oh! Slayers are the Int-ish frontliners. Completely fucking ruinous, tons of skills, so much damage, death attacks.
>>46429252
Investigator
>>46430223
Do you think adding this would clarify it?
>While merged with its ward, the mottainai repurposes parts of the ward or grows new limbs, senses, or other physical features as necessary to use its mechanical traits. Because of this, the mottainai must use Disguise if it wishes to appear as an inanimate object.
Is there any way to make akashic magic less stupidly obvious? You can't just walk around with Hand Cannons out, or as a Daevic, and expect people to be chill about it.
>>46430405
Yes I think that sums it up well.
So what are some cool class choices for a Samsaran? Always wanted to try one from a story standpoint.
>>46430422
Ectoplasmatist Spiritualist, get Shocking Grasp, you are now a Wisdom based Magus.
Is there any way to increase the damage of the Mystic Bolts of the Warlock archetype, or are you just sorta stuck with what you get
>>46430422
Wizard/arcanist, borrowing spells from Witch to be an arcane healer.
Cleric borrowing spells from Paladin to give out the divine beatings of a lifetime.
If you had to narrow the first party classes down to 15 for a campaign setting, what would it be and why?
>>46430471
including prcs? Or just base?
>>46430487
Not including PRCs.
>the warlock does the Kineticist better than the Kineticist
jesus
>>46430471
That's pretty difficult, hard to cover a decent range with it.
I'm building a campaign. How many waifus/husbandoes should I include? Tips for personality archtypes?
>>46430517
Barbarian
Bard
Cleric
Druid
Paladin
Ranger
Sorcerer
Wizard
Alchemist
Magus
Unchained Rogue
Unchained Summoner
Arcanist
Inquisitor
Unchained Monk
Why? It seemed like a good idea at the time.
>>46430616
Two for every player.
>>46427817
I'm actually using that art for my dnd rogue.
>>46430616
Just go read a trope page for personality archtypes.
>>46429318
What do you 'need' it for?
>>46429480
Don't skimp on lock quality, no power tools to get you out of things, and paying wizards for "knock"/open lock is embarrassing.
Overall I'd say base it off of masterwork manacles (x2 or x3 if you want hands in there too).
Now for the fun bit: if you could enchant a chastity belt, what would you do with it?
>>46430743
>Now for the fun bit: if you could enchant a chastity belt, what would you do with it?
On touch feeblemind.
>>46430471
For just PCs or for PCs and NPCs?
>>46430471
>Sorcerer
>Oracle
>Druid
>Magus
>Inquisitor
>Alchemist
>Warpriest
>Bard
>Bloodrager
>Hunter
>Fighter
>Barbarian
>Paladin
>Umonk
>Urogue
Gets rid of Tier 1s without giving up on fullcasting, except for Druid (who has no equivalent)
>>46430743
>What do you 'need' it for?
Nothing in particular.
>if you could enchant a chastity belt, what would you do with it?
something along the lines of that Ring of Bondage from the UI leak
>>46430816
Drop druid, include ranger
>>46430825
Hunter obviates Ranger.
>>46430834
>>46430825
What about shaman instead of druid? I am not that familiar with it.
>>46430834
Well, drop druid anyway
>>46430849
Add Occultist, they're actually pretty fun and unique.
Would any care to explain what a vault is and if there are any adventure paths for it or third party materials for it?
>>46430885
Its a place where a bunch of people take shelter from nuclear annihilation
>>46430885
>a large room or chamber used for storage, especially an underground one
Yeah, we're gonna need a HELL of a lot more context.
>>46430422
Druid, reincarnated druid archetype is pretty sweet.
>>46430885
>Would any care to explain what a vault is
What.
>>46430594
Many things do
Including a soulbolt warsoul, from telekinesis to blast shapes.
>>46431289
well yeah but ofc 3pp does it better
its just hilarious to see it done better in Paizo.
>>46430986
>>46431227
>>46430951
It's a place deep within the underdark, untouched from the surface world. It's a place of magic regulated by something known as a keeper maybe? I don't remember. There is a vast sea vault that spans greater than any other sea above ground. There is also another vault that is In a more or less dinosaur era. Maybe these vaults are keep as a library of things past. Was wondering if some other dm's have ever used one of these settings and could go into further detail
>>46431506
i like the answer about a shelter from nuclear annihilation
go with that one
>>46431506
Are you talking about the Vaults of Orv in Golarion?
http://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Orv
want to make a character who only uses a shield.
I will be the partys tank/meatshield.
What are some good enchants for it?
Also: How big do you have to be to shieldbash with a towershield?
>>46431553
1) Warder, though it's more that it's the closest thing to a tank that exists in PF
2) ?
3) Your size doesn't matter, you can't shield bash with a Tower Shield without a 3pp feat that lets you do so (Stupendous Strength).
There's a Fighter archetype about using Tower Shields, but it's garbage and probably doesn't even let you shield bash with them.
>>46431542
Yes but it's all very vague such as the keepers and builders. Was wondering if there were any specifics on it. Seemed like a good potential mind twisting adventure for some high levels.
http://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Vault_Builders
>>46427899
within a certain character idea they are a 99% advantage, but they also fluff the oracle and make him looks cool.
for example the lame oracle clearly is not hindered if he already plans to wear heavy armor.
you can think of it in those terms: his life sucked but he menaged to find a way to not suffer from his curse and turn it into advantage.
if the player is not satisfied with the few curses presented in the books you should invent a new one based around what the player plans to do with the class; make it a minor advantage that also inconvenience and softlock him into the role.
overall they play a small role in the balance of this very strong class, so it's not a big difference if they are removed...but they are such a good opportunity to make an interesting and charming character.
>>46431582
http://archivesofnethys.com/MonsterDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Xiomorn%20(Vault%20Keeper)
http://archivesofnethys.com/MythicMonsterDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Xiomorn%20(Vault%20Builder)
>>46430616
The real question is how many of them are they actually aware of?
And where the fuck have the translations for this gone?
>>46431791
Is the Oracle the only class that has a substantial downside?
>>46431918
Kineticist
>>46430816
>ho has no equivalent)
I find the Lunar, Wood and elemental oracles pretty close to a druid, desu, although it may be best to put the beast shapes on their spell lists.
>>46431918
basically yes.
kineticist only if he uses his powers.
druid, clerics, paladins, other divinely inspired classes have moderate or minor restriction to behaviour they have to follow to avoid being punished by gods and lose their class privileges.
characters with Arcane bond can lose some of their powers if they see their bonded familiar or object be destroyed so they have to play around that.
but none of that makes the character really lose something in comparison to a level 1 commoner.
>>46431923
>>46431997
The kineticist was kinda made deliberately shit though
>>46432012
Holy shit, someone fucking realized it.
Kineticists are the 'playing with psychic powers fucks you up' class of the occult games. They were never meant to play outside those games.
>>46432019
cuck
Is there any good reason Calistria's obedience involves prostitution instead of simply sex? It feels weird that the deity whose dogma is "fuck it, do what you will" requires you to do something only if you get something for it.
>>46432019
By Jason "The Psychic Fucks You All" Bulhman
>>46432099
She's the elf goddess of whores. The deity of whores expects devout worshippers to be whores. Huge surprise, I know.
>>46432162
The whore bit was obvious. The "no, you can't just shag them, they have to pay for it or it's no go" bit strikes me as just pointless edginess.
>>46432565
If they don't pay, you're a slut, not a whore.
But anyway, who decided for the name 'warder'? its excruciatingly stupid
>>46432731
What would you name it to?
>>46432731
Haha yeah and jesus whose idea was "fighter", how on the nose is that?
>>46432761
Shielder
>>46432893
That's similarly bad
>>46432916
fair enough
Bucklerer?
>>46432929
Stahp
>>46432893
Warder might be bad(and there are certainly better choices, IMO, like Vanguard), but that's even worse.
>>46432939
too late for that now sempai. Ain't no breaks on the warder-needs-a-new-name train
Bulwarker
Safeguarder
Shelterer
Absorber
Aegiser
Armamenter
Coverer
Defenser
Guarder
>>46432942
I honestly like the name warder.
>>46432984
The Protectorate
>>46432998
Or, the Protector.
>>46432998
protectorateR
You need to end it with an -er otherwise what is the point
>>46432984
>honestly like the name warder
think about seeing a specialist
Is LewdDM still around?
I'm interested in the game but there are already like 13 other players in it since you posted the autojoin link.
How tight is it looking for places right now?
>>46433031
>tightI'm sorry, I couldn't help it
>>46433025
HA if I was going to see a specialist it would be because of my problem ofliking 3.5 over pretty much any system
>>46433041
thank you anon I am glad you can keep abreast of things
>>46428141
I generally build Sarah Kerrigan as a Marksman//Telepath while still Terran. Post infestation she's a very quickly leveling Wilder//Aberrant Aegis, and Primal is when she goes Mythic (probably using the Overmind path, funnily enough)
>>46433031
The game hemorrhages players as fast as it can gain them. If you stick around long enough, there'll be room.
>>46433024
Barrierer. er.
I play as Huge McStrong and my opponents are quickly discovering that they simply cannot hit me because of ridiculous AC so they simply stop attacking me..
is it possible to grab a smaller opponent and just bash them against my shield?
>>46433176
Why?
>>46433195
You mean like a grapple maneuver?
>>46433280
maybe? I have never really looked into the whole grappling thingey because of the entire meme about the rules being 500 pages long or whatever.
I just want to get mad at enemies not taking a swordswing at me, grabbing them by the neck and then repeatedly bashing them against my spiked shield until they stop squirming
>>46433314
Grappling in 3.5 was a headache. Grappling in PF is a bit better. You could also look into Hamatula Strike to literally stick enemies to your shield.
Monsters as PCs.
I managed to get my GM to agree with me using a monster as character. Since the rules state that CR equals the effective character level, does that mean that I can advance it using monster advancement rules instead of adding class levels to it?
Since it is a high level mythic adventure, adding the first levels of any class wouldn't have much of an impact I guess, plus it would be quite troublesome to justify flavors wise.
Anyone else have experience in using monsters as PCs in a high level adventure?
>>46432984
>Aegiser
>Warder already has an ability called Aegis
>Even though there was already a class called Aegis
>>46430616
As many as you want for yourself.
>>46433239
They have a gnoll right now.
>>46433334
>Hamatula Strike
why the heck do I get a -4 penelty if I want to grapple with the impaled goblin on my shield? If anything I should get a +4 since it would be easier to wrestle with it
>>46433195
>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/path-of-war/classes/warder
>At 2nd level, a warder is trained in how best to control her enemies and how they behave in battle, urging them to throw their all against the warder's indomitable armor and unyielding shield. With a sharp blade, a clever taunt, or something that otherwise attracts her foe, the warder can direct the attention of enemies towards himself. Whenever the warder attacks a foe in combat and inflict at least 1 point of damage, as a free action she may mark them as her foe (he may even mark a foe during an attack of opportunity and may make the free action to do so, even though it is not her turn) and attempt to continue to force them to engage the warder only. The target is aware of being marked, and the mark remains for a number of rounds equal to the warder's Intelligence modifier (minimum of 1). Marked targets suffer a -4 penalty to attack rolls against foes that are not the warder, and arcane spellcasters suffer
grabbing is pain and usuallly mesh badly with shield, but this warder's feature let you force enemies to attack you. other similar effects might be cavalier's duel.
The game doesn't have many ways to make a tank character viable, although improving your positioning, size and ability to do attacks of opportunity ( eventually breaking into reach weapons) might be one way to achieve it.
having high AC is usually a way to make the enemies want to hit your companions, so if yourplayer make enemies take tactically correct decisions the best you can do is increase your damage output.
>>46433239
Well, last time he was recruiting, we had posts like this.
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/45453780/#q45458285
>>46433400
Because you can do it as a free action as part of a shield bash.
>>46433336
i remember that in 3.5 you used to take the monster's base form, eventually stripped of some powers based on DM decision, make it count as it were a fixed amount of levels in a class(based on its CR), then take class levels on top of it.
for example a powerful experience and character level 10 cleric minotaur character was actually a minotaur 2/ cleric 8 " multiclass" character.
if the mosnter is too strong to count as a level 0 base form this might be how to make it usable.
>>46433412
Are you for real? Storytime.
>>46433400
Because you can do it as a free action after a shield bash.
>>46433412
My mistake, probably should've started here
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/45443316/#45452654
>>46433448
I wasn't in it, I only have a second-hand account
>>46433413
>>46433450
I wonder if I could do it as a free action after a shield bash..
>>46433454
I don't think that was the ERP game
There are various books and systems for making weapons. I know of the recent paizo one, but what about 3rd party?
I want to make something with a bit of... punch.
BIG-O piston style.
>>46433464
From what I remember an attack of opportunity is still an action so yes.
>You can perform one or more free actions while taking another action normally.
warder warder warder warder warder warder warder warder warder warder warder warder warder warder warder warder warder warder warder warder
>>46433496
It absolutely was
>>46433448
>>46433454
I WAS in on it, and that's basically... the entire story already. Not to speak ill of anyone (or at least, TRYING not to, but I'm only human), but yeah, one guy hit a phenomenally higher balance point than the rest of the party, given that we were told to build for fun, not power. The DM amped the challenge up to compensate by throwing a single at us with a CR probably twice what we could handle, no adds just the one guy, and we just kind of sat around impotently missing everything we did while the gargantuan cohort punched it for the entire first session and half of the next. After it died, our healer brought it back to life and we befriended it, just to thumb our nose at the Psion. The next few sessions could basically be summed up as "the Psion and Cohort do everything mechanical, the shota Paladin alternately is molested by his magical dullahan armour, and molests his ever-growing harem of demonic DMPCs, and everyone else is summarily ignored or overruled". I dropped out pretty quick.
>>46433532
Incredible, could you go into more detail?
>>46433545
>given that we were told to build for fun, not power.
But building for power IS fun! In fact, the overwhelming majority of time spent playing Pathfinder for most people, especially people on /pfg/, will be crafting builds!
>>46433546
no play a warder
>>46433563
Hey man, you go right ahead and join up then
My games are...not like that. Is...is that how your games are? Are you okay?
>>46433563
To be fair though in an ERP game you're way more heavily focused on fluff than mechanics.Plus if there's bad ends sometimes you don't want to win
>>46433443
Yeah, figured this out as well, but pathfinder specific rules take the base form of the monster and then just add levels so assuming the monsters starts as CR 5, it can only gain 15 levels, when other players will have lvl 20 characters. For most classes the final 5 levels are the most interesting, and this campaign starts at level 15, so having a "mutilated" character would make it not worth the effort.
>>46433598
But I don't want badends! In fact, the only reason I'd join an ERP game is to spite the DM and every other player by avoiding lewd and playing it as a normal game!
>>46433563
craft more warder builds warder its ideal for powerlay and roleplaying too and it even dust your house and bring you the newspaper in the morning
warder warder warder warder
WARDER
>>46433598But losing is so much more fun when it happens despite you doing your best.
>>46433604
add warder levels
>>46433545
Confirmed, all truths.
I joined up because I was desperate it was a game that would let me use PoW and the DM promised lewds would stay in PMs and I wouldn't have to do or see it if I wasn't into it. That lasted until just after the first session ended, when the DM fucked the gnoll instantly pregnant as... some sort of glow-dog?
The players were honestly pretty okay guys though, I just wasn't into their deal.Except the shota paladin, he was legit creepy.
>>46433627
if you weren't playing a warder you that wasn't your best
>>46433605
Not liking ERP is fine but joining a game just to show others they're having badwrongfun is pretty awful
I agree with >>46433627 too though
>>46433641
>joins erp shit
>gets traumatized when stuff happens
Just what the fuck did you expect
>>46432099
>>46432162
>See posts about whores and psychics
>Look at the official Paizo Prostitute from the Game Mastery Guide - http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/gameMasteryGuide/npcs/street.html#prostitute
>One first level feat and one bonus feat for being human
>Can meet prerequisites for Wild Talent and Unlocked Talent to gain 4 power points and any one 1st level power
>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/psionics-unleashed/feats/wild-talent
>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/psionics-unleashed/feats/unlocked-talent
>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/psionics-unleashed/power-lists
The powers can't be augmented. How much lewd can we get out of 1st level powers from any list?
I can think of Metamorphosis, Empathic Connection, Grip of Iron, Compression, and Expansion.
>>46433669
I expected "lewds will happen in PMs" to mean "lewds will happen in PMs"
>traumatized
Like I said, I just wasn't into it, so I left. People can part on terms other than FUCK THIS FUCK YOU FUCK EVERYTHING, anon! I didn't condemn any of them for their interestsexcept that one weirdo, so I don't really know what you want from me.
>>46433669
People are getting baited into it because it has fun chargen rules.
Stuff like >>46433641 makes me wary but I'm still tempted, the chargen /is/ neat and the settings and NPCs look like a good mix of lewd and comfy. Also I play high op games but can nerf myself to fit the party.
Might give it a shot?
>>46433715
Give it a shot, man. Just because I didn't fit in doesn't mean you won't. Scuttlebutt is, the DM's making the Psion reroll a slightly less overwhelming character, so now's a good time to pile in and see if you enjoy it.
>>46433684
For a certain niche clientele, there's no beatingGuide the Willing
>>46433684
>not synesthete
>literally fucking them blind
>>46433706
Well look judging from the way you type you seems kind of a faggot, so i guess bitching for having joined some christfuck porn game and having your gay shit on the table instead than whispered in your ear is just what one could expect from you
you and your kind of erp fuckers should be put aganist a wall and stoned to death
>>46433802
Jesus man, are you alright?
>>46433802
>bitching
Anon, they asked for details, and that's what I gave. I've said more than once now that I wasn't upset by it, I simply wasn't into it and I chose to leave. I'm not interested in ERP, but I joined because the character generation rules were interesting and generous, and I was told I wouldn't have to watch or participate. When that turned out to be untrue, I simply took my leave. I have no hard feelings, why would I? I took a fair shot at something and didn't like it. That's how life works. The only one bitching here is, I think, yourself.
>>46433830
"you alright" is the new "u mad"?
>>46433841
>"that's how life works"
Well shit i don't really think someone joining an online game exclusively for character gen rules and then finding himself surrounded by hungry dicks should go on about sharing wisdom you know
>>46433841
Please crank down the wannabe pompous english, its painful to read.
>>46433802
>>46433844
>>46433891
>>46433841
As the original asking anon, I appreciate it.
>>46433915
>filename
Do.. do you really have ~500 bait images?
>>46433903
>>46433915
/v/ is that way little shits
So since it's coming out at the end of the month, what are you guys looking forward to in Armor Master's Handbook?
>>46433928
Do you not?
>>46432731
I actually like it. Reminds me of wheel of time, warders existed to prevent their mages from getting killed (doing whatever stupid shit they usually do).
>>46433966
>shield mastery feats
Yes please.
>>46433976
Shut it gayreth
>>46433966
Nothing.
It's by Paizo so I doubt it will have anything good in it, and by the time I get around to reading it I am sure it will have been errataed into no nice things for martials.
>>46432731
The word literally means guard, how is that stupid?
warder
noun
1. a person who guards something, as a doorkeeper or caretaker.
2. a soldier or other person set to guard an entrance.
3. Chiefly British. an official having charge of prisoners in a jail.
>>46434018
When you put that way, it does sound a bit inappropriate for a class meant for adventurers. How often do PCs find themselves guarding a dungeon?
>>46434044
I guard new dungeons every day from their current inhabitants.
>>46433768
>>46433799
There's also Psychic Tracking to hunt down potential clients by their lustful thoughts.
Natural Healing for sadists.
Deja Vu to get around the refractory period.
>>46434018
Defensator
Sentinelist
Protecter
>>46434044
About as often as they achieve a role of leadership in the clergy.
Cleric
ˈklerik
noun
noun: cleric; plural noun: clerics
a priest or religious leader, especially a Christian or Muslim one.
>>46433768
Holy fuck, anon, who cast Deeper Darkness on your soul?
>>46434082
Please tell me that page text is real
>>46434044
They guard their allies fuckbrain. Warding their wards cause they're warders.
>>46433563
Know what? Since I was crazy enough to join that campaign I might as well ask you fine folk for advice on race creation. Specifically, I want to build a Dragonborn, the rootiest tootiest Dragonborn you've ever seen, probably playing as a Zweihander Sentinel for maximum tank.
Since I'm working with 20 RP, what traits and abilities should I shove on this race?Should I invest 10 RP into the "Dragon" Type, which offers little but makes sense for the race itself?
>>46434153
Invest 2 RP intodat cloaca
>>46433966
They'll bring back the Twilight enchantment so that wizards can wear armor.
>>46434118
No. It's from Muh Phoenix by Nuzlocke.
>http://www.nuzlocke.com/muhphoenix.php
>>46434169Cloaca isn't a mechanical race feature.
>>46434212
Oh, then yeah, Dragon.
>>46434090
Priest sounds pretty apt description for someone who receives magical powers from their god by praying.
hey DSP related question. for the elemental flux counter eldritch consumption can you use it on a fireball? cause I feel like the raw might be that you're not the "target" of the fireball since it's a aoe but at the same time it feels weird that I can absorb magic but not magic that's only incidentally burning my face.
>>46434311
I don't have my copy of the book on hand right now to look at the text of that specific maneuver, but if it specifies that you need to be the "target" of the spell then it wouldn't work against AoEs, since their target is an area.
>>46434176
Anything for martials?
So what are the thoughts on the Medic so far? I was thinking it's recovery mechanic is to strong and the sanguinist might need a cap on he blood it can hold when combined with something with fast healing or regen. The fast healing is manageable but if a troll prisoner is taken the character could be able to bank up 1000s (what ever 450 x initiation modifier is (That is pre-10, 10-19 its 450xnumber of attacks×initiation mod) of healing a day while someone is preparing spells, that can be applied in a swift action.
>tfw I'll never get to play in a lewd game because all my fetish characters are too abstract and confusing to other people
I just want to play a Nidalese alchemist with a poisonous shadow, who only gets off on shadows and silhouettes of lewdness and considers the meat that casts them 3DPD...
>>46434449
Should probably mention I made some changes to the medic this morning. They've got a good Will save now and I toned down Cura Te Ipsum to a scaling bonus to REF and WILL.
They've also got a new ability:
>Improved Treatment (Ex): Starting at 2nd level, when the medic treats deadly wounds, the creature she treats recovers hit points and ability score damage as if it had rested for a full day. At 6th level, when the medic treats a creature’s deadly wounds it recover hit points as if it had rested for a full day with long term care. At 11th level, when the medic treat deadly wounds, the creature recovers hit point and ability damage as if it had rested for 3 days.
>>46434153
>Dragon - 10 RP
>Advanced ability scores - 4 RP
>Natural Armor (2) - 3 RP
That's 17 RP for type, +2 natural armor and some good ability scores. That Dragon type is killing you, though you could maybe save 4 RP by replacing Advanced with +2 Strength +2 Intelligence/Charisma -2 Dexterity.
Breath weapon? Forget about it, that won't scale well and will end up being kinda silly. Claws and tail could work.
Or, you could just tweak the existing Lizardfolk race (only 8 RP) and make the character dragon-blooded, rather than straight up dragon.
>>46434463
That's pretty funny desu. Plus there's some spells in Book of Shadows that might be good for it.
>>46434427
I hope so.
The Weapon Master's Handbook was a good gift for martials, but I can't think of how they would improve wearing armor.
>>46434449
What's your issue with the medic recovery?
>>46434582
I wanna play Tony Stark in dnd so bad
>>46429318
Cost of the lock for mundane stuff.
Next up are intelligent magic items, give them some powers to defend the bearer against magical enemies of their chastity (dimension door, summons etc). Costs depends on the abilities, just use the formulas.
Next up is artifacts, for which there is little guide for pricing. I'd say an immune to all but disjunction and wish chastity belt should cost >50K, if it has to be wish immune I'd say >100k.
Is there a lamer archetype than wildsoul vigilante
>You get to be spiderman ... at level 18, before then you get a buffed tanglefoot bag, some bonus stats and a mediocre climb speed at level 12
>>46434605
Refluffing the synthesist pretty much gets you there.
>>46434615
...yes, and it's called Brute. And Gunmaster.
Like, Wildsoul's lame, but it does at least let you keep a specialization. You're just a standard avenger/stalker who traded some talents for shit (arachnid) or cool shit (ursine) or late-but-cool-shit (falconine).
>>46434605
>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/psionics-unleashed/classes/aegis
The closest thing Aegis. Say that the suit is built from nanomachines or technobabble instead or material from the Astral Plane.
>>46434615
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/barbarian/archetypes/paizo---barbarian-archetypes/totem-warrior
>>46434682
Those archetypes are bad mechanically, but they either let you play a cool character concept where transforming actually sucks a lot for you, or are a hybrid class for people that won't or can't multiclass
most importantly those archetypes give you things instantly, with wildsoul you have to wait forever
>>46434700
This appears to not actually change anything at all so I wouldn't count it as an archetype, just someone fucking up or hoping nobody notices they didn't actually write anything.
>>46434693
you can just fluff yourself as an alchemist and say you invented flubber or something
>>46434615
>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/fighter/archetypes/paizo---fighter-archetypes/pack-mule-fighter-archetype
>>46434766
...In UC, that archetype locked you to ONLY totem powers, but let you select from more than one totem. What the hell? Did Paizo nerf an archetype LITERALLY out of existence, instead of only FIGURATIVELY?
>>46434808
Yup
>>46434831
Holy hell, that's... that's a new low.
>>46434866
...Or, apparently, according to Google, actually a very, very old low. They nerfed my barbarian into literal unplayability four years ago, and I never knew. He'd be Great Cleaving in his grave if he knew.
>>46434808
>>46434831
>>46434866
It was originally just an archetype you had to take to have access to totem powers... but since it didn't trade anything, there was no reason for every barbarian in existence not to have it.
Then in UC, someone slipped in the thing about not being able to use multiple totems "unless you have the totem warrior," presumably because they too didn't see the point of it being an archetype as it was.
But then the Higher Powers freaked out over, I dunno, Beast/Dragon being 2strong4u? And errata'd it to lock it back into its original nothing position.
>>46434463
>>46434898
>the Higher Powers
Completely off-topic but can we start referring to JJ and crew using WWF lingo now?
>On March 9, 2015, Crystal Frasier merged her Ministry of Social Justice with Jacobs' Corporation to form the Corporate Ministry
>>46434909
Gonna taxidermy that shit and hang it next to my lamp so I can see that shadow all day.
