Last Time, on Song of Swords:
Band of Bastards released weapons and wound tables
Ruvia
Silly Western art
Missing magic rules
Song of Swords is a realistic fantasy tabletop RPG that draws inspiration from historical fechtbuchs, weapons and armor. Its combat system is fast and it can be used for both fantasy and historical/mundane settings.
Call of the Void is a pulpy sci-fi tabletop RPG about fighting space-nazis and hunting giant whales with harpoons made out of the moon. Its combat system is more modern, based in the early 20th century, but can probably handle combat up to the present day.
Here's a .rar archive with the newest version of the rules as well as all related current working documents. At this time the latest version is v1.9.9:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/12xqm1p2q69m392/Song_of_Swords.rar
Here's a walkthrough on creating a character
http://paste2.org/aKfOBmWJ
Here's a walkthrough on weapon schools for SoS 1.9.9 with examples
http://paste2.org/6OyOsFM3
Here's Ballad of the Laser Whales' latest version: http://www.mediafire.com/download/545c97wvexj5aa1/CoTV+Ballad+of+the+Laser+Whales+Alpha+1.0.pdf
Here's a wiki detailing SoS's fantasy setting, getting filled up bit by bit as Jimmy reveals more details:
http://tattered-realms.wikia.com/wiki/Tattered_Realms_Wiki
There's also a roll20 room where new players are encouraged to try the rules, test new rules, and find game breaking issues: https://app.roll20.net/join/346755/hRKd4w
The room might be empty, but the people who teach the game still browse the thread frequently. If you're looking to learn, post here in the thread. We also play Guy Windsor's card game Audatia in the room.
The Legend is unconscious.
Old thread >>46308373
My waifu edition
>>46405137
>>46405189
Are you looking for a BoB fecht with that murderhobo?
>>46405330
We could very well Fecht now. We have something new to do.
Oh god, it's still April 1st in America. How long until this goes back to normal?
>>46405867
Sure. Do we have a combatant to fight that terrible frenchman you prepared?
>>46405982
Just use same sheet for a mirror fight.
>>46406318
>mirror fight
WHY
>>46406431
Do you really want to waste time making another murderhobo with maxed out Proficiency? Use sheet he posted, it's solid.
So, Pauldrons. Stabbing under them was common, and despite what SoS' rules imply, upper arm armor was still common under because of this. So they should, really, have a Weak Point on the arm there, right? Since, well, SoS doesn't have armpits, only shoulders.
>Fencing Foil
>+2p
>BoB
Oh Praise Christ, the horror is ended.
>>46408840
Probably something for coup de grace or joint thrust, at the least. It would be silly to have an armpit hit location, so just adding the joint thrust weakness would be an easy fix.
Or maybe add a note on the armor saying joint thrusting damages the side, not the shoulder.
>>46405189
ITT: We guess what Jimmy Rome ripped off for each part of his setting.
I'll start:
>>46410939
Too easy, zero points.
>>46410107
The Burdinadin are literally The Night Land except with elves instead of humans. They just use guns instead of goofy chainsaw axes.
>>46411079
>goofy chainsaw axes
Discos is literally big circular saw on pole
>>46411096
You're correct. But he does describe it as sort of resembling an axe. Chainsaw is the wrong word, but big goofy circular saw axe doesn't sound as cool.
Seriously though. The Dark Watchers? The constant looming dread of the eclipse? The power that powers sorcerer sounds an awful lot like the Earth-Current. What happens when Genosus goes away and doesn't come back?Nothing, because Zoph Escher has already built a giant laser cannon to fuck Shub-Niggurath with.
>>46411157
SO IT TURNS OUT LOVE IS THE ONLY THING IN THE UNIVERSE MORE POWERFUL THAN EVIL.
THAT'S WHY I BUILT A CANNON THAT SHOOTS LOVE. IT'S AWESOME. DIVORCE RATES SKYROCKET EVERY TIME I FIRE IT, BUT HOLY SHIT DID I RUIN NYARLOTHOTEP'S DAY.
"OH I'M SO TOUGH, I'M MADE OF NON-MATTER AND SERENADED BY THE PIPING OF DEMONIC FLUTES," FUCK YOU YOG-SOTOUGH, I'VE GOT YOUR NUMBER YOU LITTLE BITCH, YOU'RE NOTHING COMPARED TO THE POWER OF THE FUCKING PITUARY GLAND. OXYTOCIN MOTHERFUCKER, I'LL BET YOU CAN'T EVEN PRONOUNCE IT WITH YOUR SEVENTY MOUTHS, BUT YOU'RE SURE GOING TO FEEL IT IN 800,000 YEARS WHEN THE BEAM OF COHERENT LIFETIME CHANNEL REACHES YOU.
>>46411195They are written Nyarlathotep and Yog-Sothoth if I'm not mistaken.Know your enemy Dr. Doom. Know them in and out.
>>46411279well yog-sotough was pretty obviously a joke
>>46411298
Oh, I see. That eluded me.
>>46411079
>>46411195
That's a legitimate disconnect though. Love doesn't seem to have any power or gravity whatsoever in Tattered Realms. The only case I can think of is Eskarne's thirst for revenge over her dead husband, which has driven her to kill countless innocent people.
Eskarne is a bad guy, make no mistake. She's a serial killer. I'm interested in what her inspiration is, exactly.
>>46410939
I'll finish.
>>46409999
All of the provided weapons are examples from their weapon builder thing. I'm sure if you dislike or disagree with something you can change it.
>>46411413
There is that thing where the current godking of Karthack is in a legitimately happy marriage with Boccy, whichin turn leads to everybody in the country being better off on account of their local deity being in a good mood most of the time.
>>46412120
If Love does have any power, we can trust that Zoph Escher will find and abuse that power.
What should the RoF of a bow be in Ballad?
>>46410077
Thank God it's over
>>46411157I prefer Dr Strange, myself. Doom gets a little to wanked.
>>46411567
What the ever living fuck?
>>46415158
That's just Danger 5.
>>46415158
You should go watch it. Like >>46415963 said, just danger 5
It's gud
So how is BoB treating you, guys?
Hay SoS, I'm gonna do a fun thing on Friday with gladiators to teach people the game, help myself revise and get them to try different styles.
Do you have any ideas for cool colosseum stuff? Are there any "must use" gladiator types? How would to stat a net?
>>46418112
I will say that most gladiator armor sets DO NOT WORK AT ALL if the TZM and Stance rules are not in play.
Romans got up to some crazy shit in the coliseum. Drive rare species to extinction by gladiator. Mock up large infantry battles. Xtreme chariot races. Flood the interior and do ship battles.
>>46418112
One thing to consider is that gladiators were supposed to toy with each other. Don't overinvest and tell players not to do so. Audience wants a long bloody show.
>>46418112
>>46418200
>>46418382
Also, Gladiators are not supposed to kill each other. However, on the Arena (which means "on the sand" in Roman latin) accidents happen.
>>46418200
>>46418382
>>46418476
I remember suggesting a rule to modulate the STR of a strike you made ages ago, was that ever officially implemented?
I'll probably end up using it either way, it fits the theme.
>>46418658
is that modulation you speak of supposed to represent the strength put into the attack? The CP investiture can also do that, but I don't think that it'll be fun to the players. Holding back like that.
>>46418720
As in you would say "Okay I'm only putting 3 STR into this attack" before rolling the dice so that really good rolls could still lead to accidents.
>>46418798
Why not? Its okay rule if you want to control the deadliness of combat.
MASS COMBAT RULES WHEN
>>46419529
Do you want rules for group combat between 5-20 combatants or mass combat and huge armies?
>>46419697
Huge armies
>>46419529
>>46419855
No idea. We could try to homebrew it.
>>46419529
Riddle of Steel had some good rules for that.
I hereby claim this thread in the name of the French, you foolish English bread breaking types can scurry back under the skirt tails of your Mothers or your Queens
>>46421837
>2nd of April in military history:
>1801 - The British capture the Danish-Norwegian fleet at the Battle of Copenhagen in what Nelson considered his most hard-fought battle.
You hear that, lad? The fucking vikings fought better than you frogs ever did.
>>46421975
Man, you gotta dig back over 200 years ago for the last time you were relevant.
Why don't you just tuck your clickity clackity finger board back under the desk and go dig a butterknife out of your weapons safe and kill yourself.
>>46422081
You're one to talk about a lack of weapons. I hear Paris is great this time of year. Tell you what froggy, since you can't keep your trap shut, I'll shut it for you. We're not going back 200 years though. Oh no no, my baguette-gagging friend. I'm going to go medieval on your ass.
>>46407358
Pic related, it's me. But you know what, that armor's probably too hard for your oui little arms to get though. I'll give you a chance, I'll wear munitions instead of proofed plate.
>>46422320
>>46422081
Just fuck already, make Double Entente monstrosity
>>46422405
>sticking your rooty tooty point n' shooty in anything from Gaul
Good God man. Bestiality isn't allowed here.
>>46422320
Fucking Internet Tough guy here
>Playing Band of Bastards
>In a Song of Swords thread
You're crazy man, but fine, I'm actually good at Riddle clones >>46405189
How the hell will we declare orientations?
>>46422544
The same way we always do, with spoiler tags. Say eitherRed,Yel, orBluin spoilers.
Wait, BoB doesn't have Yellow, and they have White instead of Blue. Well fuck that. Just say Red or Blu.
>>46422591
TROS had Red and White, is probably why.
>>46422591
I got a better fucking idea.
>>46422654
What copycats.
>>46422710
I see what you're doing. I'm surprised one of your kind had a good thought.
>>46422752
Well I'll start you off easy with an 7d Glaive Swing to your Belly
>>46422710
>>46422752
Okay, you start at Extended reach. Jean has reach control (+2 CP with Polearms prof).
Jean has initiative and declares his action first.
>>46422710
Alright frog, you've got initiative. We start at Extended reach, since that's the reach of your glaive. You are using your glaive, right?
In BoB, or Builder, there are no range costs. Instead, when you have the reach advantage, you get +2 CP at the refresh. So your CP is:
7 attributes + 10 proficiency - 1 armor CP penalty + 2 range = 18 CP
My CP is:
8 attributes + 7 proficiency - 3 armor CP penalty = 12 CP
So bring it on. Twelve is all I need to return Alsace-Lorraine to its rightful owners.
>>46422899
You're swinging a glaive at my fully armored belly? I take back what I said earlier, you're as stupid as you look. I'll extend you a little mercy. I'll do an 8d Parry. Yeah, a Parry, not a Block. They'll both use a DTN of 6.
By the way, with my shield, I'm Favoring my Left Arm, my Right Arm, and my Head. Because those areas are Favored, you can't specifically choose to attack them. So stay away from my armpits!
>>46422993
We Frenchmen are very good at staying away from armpits.
Rolled 7, 1, 7, 5, 1, 2, 4 = 27 (7d10)
>>46422993
Christ, only 12 dice? Are you sure this is fair?
Don't you worry, I'll crack your belly like I'll crack the hymen between your legspic related
Rolled 8, 3, 9, 6, 2, 2, 6, 5 = 41 (8d10)
>>46423084
Enough words. Now's the time for dice to do the talking.
>>46423084
>>46423129
2 vs 4. Attack was Parried. Sir George has initiative
>>46422320
>>46422081
>>46421975
>>46421837
Mummy and Daddy, please don't fight.
Excellent. Now, I have a few options.
I could Shield Bash, against which your only defense is a Dodge, increasing my chances of retaining initiative. But this lets you do underhanded French tactics like Wrap to attack my unarmored head. Oh, and my Sword & Shield proficiency's Emphasis means that this will be done at Advantage. That means -1 TN.
I could Shield Push. This is Restraining, meaning if it succeeds, any attack you do in response is wasted. None of that sneaky attack business from Song of Swords, it'll be totally negated. And just like a Shield Bash, your only defensive option is a Dodge. I'll also have Advantage thanks to my Sword & Shield proficiency.
I could Wind. You're probably used to the eternally half-completed Hilt Push system in SoS. Well, here, this is how Wind works. Jake Norwood himself said this system of theirs was brilliant.
Since I only have a few dice remaining, I'll do a Shield Push at you with 4 dice.
Remember, there are no range costs. If a Shield Bash/Push succeeds, we'll move to my preferred weapon reach of Long.
>>46423295
Not now EU. Go to your room.
>>46423344
But
what
why
you
This is an outrage! You bleating dirt eating beast.
I'll
Fuck
I'll 10d Dodge
Rolled 4, 2, 10 = 16 (3d10)
>>46423445
Throw the bones, pleb.
Rolled 1 (1d10)
>>46423475
I forgot a die.
Rolled 4, 6, 4, 3, 6, 9, 10, 6, 8, 5 = 61 (10d10)
>>46423475
It's only proper to let the person with Initiative throw first
Rolled 5, 10 = 15 (2d10)
>>46423475
>>46423502
>10
TENS FUCKING EXPLODED
First die is you, second die is me.
Rolled 4 (1d10)
>>46423541
MULTIPLE EXPLOSIONS!?
>>46423541
It was 1 vs 7, you successfully dodged.
Jeanne doesn't have 2CP to buy Initiative and George keeps it. You are still at Extended range.
>>46410077
Ey Jimjams it's muh bday drop some Izagone lore, specifically, do they got some weird shit they bring to Vosca?
>>46423541
>>46423475
>>46423498
Because I have Advantage on this roll, my TN went from 6 to 5. So I've got 2 successes.
You've got 7 successes, on your 10 dice.
But guess what? Dodge doesn't give you initiative unless you pay 2 CP afterwards. And you used all of yours!
We're going to begin Round 2 (or "Phrase" 2, as they call it in Builder) with me having initiative. (Also their word for Action is Tempo.)
You'll still have reach advantage, so it's 18 CP against 12 CP again.
>>46423622
I don't know who this scribe is but he's right.
ROUND 2, TEMPO 1
I'll continue favoring both my Arms and my Head with my shield.
The best way you can defeat me with your piddly arms is to do a Wrap and attack my head. So to stop you from doing that, here's a 7d Shield Push!
>>46423742
>But guess what? Dodge doesn't give you initiative unless you pay 2 CP afterwards. And you used all of yours!
Treachery!
>7d shield push
7d Dodge, I'm not intimidated by your Shield Push
Rolled 8, 5, 4, 8, 9, 6, 6 = 46 (7d10)
>>46423848
Have at you, cur!
Rolled 4, 1, 9, 8, 3, 4, 2 = 31 (7d10)
>>46423884
Christ, that's a really good roll
>>46423884
>>46423918
Such is the power of England.
6 successes on the Shield Push (remember, Sword & Shield proficiency has Advantage on Shield Push, so my TN was 5 instead of 6)
2 successes on the Dodge
I strike you with 4 MoS! (MoS = BS in SoS, they're the same thing.)
As we can see here >>46423344 this means you fall prone and lose 4 dice from Impact. (Impact = Stun in SoS, they're the same thing.) We also move to my range of Long!
Being Prone means you have Disadvantage to everything you do, until you can get up. Getting up uses a mechanic unique to BoB. But you may not live to see it!
ROUND 2, TEMPO 2
5d Thrust at your Face!
>>46424056
I'm not out of this yet!
6d Parry
Rolled 10, 5, 9, 3, 9 = 36 (5d10)
>>46424129
ATN 6 vs DTN 7 (6 + 1 disadvantage for you)
My captcha showed me an image of the Pope. God is on my side!Then again April 2nd is also the day the Argies invaded the Falklands.
Rolled 2, 5, 4, 6, 3, 10 = 30 (6d10)
>>46424210
C'mon 3 successes!
>>46424285
Nope
Rolled 4 (1d10)
>>46424285
C'mon explosion!
>>46424285
>>46424303
Fuuuuuucckkkkkk
Rolled 1 (1d6)
That's a hit! With at least 1 MoS, after I explode that 10.
We roll 1d6 for location. The wheels on the character sheets are the hit tables. This was an attack at the Head, so we use the Head wheel. This was a Thrust, so we use the inside wheel. Counting the Crown as 1 and going clockwise, I'll hit your Face on a 2, 3, or 4.
Rolled 4, 7 = 11 (2d10)
I didn't explode the 10 I rolled earlier >>46424210 , so here it is.
Ignore the second die unless the first is also a 10.
>>46424399
Damn! I've struck your helmet.
4 Strength + 1p Longsword held one-handed + MoS - 3 Stamina - 4 Munitions plate
Very unlikely to hurt you. Even if it does, it'll be converted to bludgeoning damage and limited to at most a level 3 wound, because your helmet is Metal and Rigid.
You survive for now!
ROUND 3
Now we are at Long, my range. I get the +2 CP range bonus. Now we're more evenly matched: I have 14 CP, you have 16 CP, and I have initiative.
So this is where we get to BoB's mechanic, something they have that SoS doesn't, at least not formally. The Positioning roll is what you use to do any of the fun narrative things you'd like to do, as well as draw a new weapon or rise from prone. You spend dice from your CP after the Refresh but before Tempo 1 to do these. If anyone decides to do a Positioning roll, their enemy gets to allocate dice to try and stop them.RAW it doesn't look that way but it's been confirmed on their forums that that's how it's meant to be.
For example, if the Unknown Frenchman decides to stand up and spend 3 dice to do so, I can spend some dice to try and stop him. He has to roll MORE successes than me, or else he stays prone.
What will you do, peasant? Stay in the dirt where you belong, or waste dice trying to rise above your station?
>>46424637
I'll blow 2d standing up
Rolled 10, 9 = 19 (2d10)
>>46424738
Disadvantage ain't shit
>>46424784
Hold up leapfrog. I didn't say if I was going to contest your roll or not. Did I not clearly say that that is what happens? Are your ears full of wax?
But I am a generous man, so I will let that slide. You're on your feet and no longer disadvantaged. Let's put you down for good!
I'll pay 2 dice to activate, and spend 7 dice on a Bind & Strike. A success here means I get a free attack at you; there is no Quick Defense in BoB.
>>46424917
Don't talk down to me like you've got the dice to burn to try and keep me down.
I did you a favor by deciding for you.
I'll pay 1d for an Expulsion at 7d, you won't even get the chance to touch me again.
>>46425043
Clearly I meant, 8d as my expulsions are free.
Rolled 6, 8, 7, 2, 2, 2, 1 = 28 (7d10)
>>46425043
Believe me Pierre, after we're through, I don't intend to touch you or your wife's son ever again.
You're using the Polearm prof
Rolled 1, 2, 1, 7, 5, 1, 9, 4 = 30 (8d10)
>>46425223
That's fine Hor-hay, but you have to go back.
Rolled 9 (1d10)
>>46425289
The only thing going back is my sword into your face.
3 successes on the Bind & Strike vs 2 successes on the Expulsion
That means I get a follow-up attack with one die. Not great. I'll spend it on a Thrust at your Face again. Base TN 6.
Rolled 1 (1d6)
>>46425378
That's a hit. Same as before, I'll hit your face on a 2, 3, or 4. Everywhere else hits somewhere with armor, and I won't accomplish anything.
>>46425397
>1
>I won't accomplish anything
You didn't have to recite your national anthem to me.
>>46425473
Well then. It'll hit eventually!
5 dice on a Thrust to your Face, again!
>>46425555
Aiming at face again, tsk tsk.
Well I'd love to stay and chat but I have WRAP this up.
2d Activation
4d Wrap
Rolled 4, 5, 4, 9, 7 = 29 (5d10)
>>46425705
You're not defending? Alrighty then, say hello to Satan for me. I won't be seeing him!
5 dice at TN 6.
Rolled 5 (1d6)
>>46425747
Rolled 7, 8, 8, 6 = 29 (4d10)
>>46425747
>5
c'est la vie mon amie
Rolled 2 (1d6)
>>46425802
Location
>>46425773
The neck? I missed a 50% three times in a row? What are the odds?!
4 Strength + 1p longsword + 2 MoS - 3 Stamina - 3 AV mail
Your mail is Metal, which converts my attack into bludgeoning.
That's a level 1 bludgeoning wound. Level 1 wounds in BoB are mostly cosmetic, but they do inflict stun.
Cutting and Bludgeoning wounds inflict 2 stun per level. Piercing inflict 1 stun per level. So, this blow inflicts 2 stun, and nothing else.
>>46425802
Thank the Almighty, you don't get two of those four dice. That's a great roll though.
Rolled 1 (1d6)
>>46425870
1~2: Flap of loose scalp
3~6: deeper cut with skull intact
Dizziness & Bleeding
BL1, KO3
Maybe if you ask politely I'll staple you back together when we're through.
Rolled 8, 7, 7, 1, 5, 8, 10, 7 = 53 (8d10)
>>46425985
I'm trying to remember why I chose not to wear a fucking helmet. But I can't.
Knockout is a lot like SoS. We roll our Knockdown pool (Strength + Agility) and need at least 3 successes in this case.
I have 4 Strength and 4 Agility, so my KD pool is 8 dice.
If I make this check, we'll be in the next Round, and the Frenchman will have initiative again. But worse than that, my Base TN will rise from 6 to 8! This begins the death spiral.
Rolled 3 (1d10)
>>46426080
Unnecessary explosions are the best kind
The roll is passed. There's one last thing though, contributing to the death spiral. I've suffered more Impact than I have dice in my pool. In Builder, when you suffer overshock, you lose those dice from your next Refresh. I've suffered 6 dice of overshock, so not only has my Base TN risen to 8, but I also have only 6 CP for the entire Round.
I do have one possible saving grace, and that's that shields do not use your Base TN to Block with. Instead, they used a Fixed TN, which is usually 6. No matter how wounded I get, I can always Block at TN 6.
Also at a Fixed TN is the Disengage maneuver, their version of Flee. Like SoSand Riddlethis is done at TN 5.and Bovine
Just about everything else I do is now at a Base TN of 8. So, I'm facing an enemy with three times my CP and a 2-TN advantage.
By the way, the Frenchman used a maneuver called Wrap. That's a special kind of Swing, like a Power Swing in SoS, that lets you attack a normally unreachable area. So, just because I Favored my Head with my shield doesn't mean it can't be struck. It's just going to cost a bit to do it.
Only Swings can do this, which means Favoring is especially useful against thrusting weapons like Spears or Rapiers, things you don't expect cuts with.
ROUND 5
18 CP vs 6 CP, Extended Range
The Frenchman has initiative!
>>46426548
THERE IS ONLY
ONE
APPROPRIATE
THING TO DO18d Swing to the Groin
Rolled 1, 5, 6, 2, 8, 3 = 25 (6d10)
>>46426965I should Do Nothing butI'll use your technique! Retreat!
6 dice Disengage!
Rolled 3, 4, 6, 5, 4, 4, 5, 3, 10, 3, 7, 1, 3, 6, 9, 1, 9, 1 = 84 (18d10)
>>46427069
THIS IS THE END FOR YOU SOROS!
I'LL SEND YOU TO THE NEXT DIMENSION
Rolled 6 (1d10)
>>46427150
EXPLODE
Rolled 3 (1d6)
>>46427150
and location
>>46427150
>>46427178
>>46427229
7 successes. You rolled 18d10 at TN 6 and only got 7 successes.
Minus my 3 successes that's 4 MoS hitting my Abs.
3 Strength + 2 really bitchin' glaive + 4 MoS - 4 Stamina - 4 AV = level 1 wound
Metal armor converts it to bludgeoning.
That barely even wounds. Come on. You hit me full force with your best attack and that's it?
I take two overshock. We Refresh. You have 18 CP, I have 10.
>>46427363
Very well.
This will be our last round.
2d AC, 8d trip
>>46427468
Trip is free for you, since you have a polearm that can probably be used to trip people. Save those activation dice.
I will Do Nothing.
Rolled 10, 2, 3, 9, 4, 2, 1, 3 = 34 (8d10)
>>46427544
>I will do nothing
Your hesitation will not save you.
Rolled 1 (1d10)
>>46427573
If this is 6 or higher then I also gain advantage next action
>>46427544
You are hereby tripped.
Your base TN increased from 8 to 9.
Survival is almost impossible for you now.
1d AC
9d Wrap to your pretty head
>>46427363
>dat filename
Typical of Englishmen.
Rolled 1, 6, 5, 3, 8, 7, 2, 4 = 36 (8d10)
>>46427680
You think I can't win with my Base TN at 8, and Disadvantage.
Here's the thing, baguette. Shields don't use your Base TN, they use a Fixed TN. And Fixed TNs don't care about Advantage or Disadvantage.
2 dice to activate
8 dice Deflect & Strike at FTN 6
Now is the time!
Rolled 4, 8, 4, 1, 5, 8, 4, 4, 1 = 39 (9d10)
>>46427885
CERTAIN
KILL
Rolled 2 (1d6)
>>46427962
Location
Rolled 3 (1d10)
>>46427985
What are you rolling location for? I won that roll! Cheating frog.
3 successes to 2 means I get one die for a follow-up attack. I'll do a Thrust at your Face. Surely this time...
Unfortunately this attack is at my Base TN, which is currently 8, plus the disadvantage from being prone, which makes it TN 9.
Well, that was my best shot. It's 18 CP against 12 CP now, again. But I have an awful TN disadvantage. And I do have initiative from my successful defense.
So:
2 dice for a Precision Thrust, and 10 dice on a Thrust at your Face!
>>46428109
Going all in?
Alright, let's make this interesting then.
I'm declaring a Pre-empt, but I'm not going to dedicate any dice to speed.
We'll both roll 3d10, winner takes all.
1d AC
17d Wrap to your Head.
Rolled 2, 4, 6 = 12 (3d10)
>>46428317
Preempt is BoB's version of Stealing Initiative. It follows a simple procedure.
I roll 3d10 at Base TN 8. I'm disadvantaged from being prone but advantaged for being the original attacker, so they cancel out.
You roll 3d10 at Base TN 6.
Winner lands their attack first. Let's do it!
Rolled 10, 6, 6 = 22 (3d10)
>>46428364
In the world of Kung Fu, speed determines the victor.
Rolled 8, 8, 7, 8, 3, 2, 1, 1, 5, 9, 4, 2, 9, 7, 7, 2, 8 = 91 (17d10)
>>46428409
time to WRAP this up
don't worry, i'll bury you in a shallow GLAIVE
Rolled 2 (1d6)
>>46428462
Location
>>46428462
Good luck, there's a 2/6ths chance I'm behind rigid metal-- >>46428500
3 Strength + 2c + 9 MoS - 4 Stamina = 10 damage, level 5 cutting wound to the Crown
>>46428462
>>46428500
3STR + 9 Successes +2c = 14 damage
14 damage - 4 stamina = 10 damage
Level 5 to your Crown
Impact 10; Base TN 10
"The skull cracks open like an egg, blood spurting high in the air. Instant death."
>>46428548
Goodbye George. Goodbye Forever
I am slain! God damn you and your bloodline!
>>46428570
Rest in peace, Sir George. You died Nobly and without fear.
Wear a damn helmet. If you haven't learned that by now, here's your wake-up call.
>>46428570
Now your body feeds the cold earth, your lineage is only dust.
>>46428626
He died with a butterknife on a stick in his face. Better go turn my Glave in at the nearest cutlery bin
Here's a form-fillable version of the Builder character sheet. It's what was used to make the sheets above.
>>46428626
>Head Builder
Oi, git out o' here u git
>>46429139
>Builder knows they're called Builder, if perhaps not why
I wonder if Bovine knows they're called Bovine.
>>46429301
I assumed it's because Band of Bastards got shortened to BoB, who bears the title of Builder.
I suspect if Mike and Phil know you guys call their game, they're probably not taking it in as good of humor (is it because of the tits? I'm assuming it's because of the tits).
Anyway. I should already be in bed. I just dropped by because one of my home-group spotted the fight and mentioned it off-hand. Cool shit.
I'll now go wander back over to OSR before I crash.
>>46429380
Close enough. Good luck and don't die, we need you to finish the game.
>>46429434
> don't die, we need you to finish the game.
I'll try not to. Thanks
>>46429380
Builder and Bovine. Now we just need an SoS title.
I nominate Titanic.
>>46430016
But anon we already have Ballad.
>>46411079
>>46411096
>>46411157
To each their own.
>>46423445
I say it right now when the fight is over. I had no idea why would you Dodge. You had great opportunity to trip George, put 4 dice to steal initiative, 7 dice to Trip. Fight would be over 3 hours sooner.
>>46430183
Ooh, I wonder if that's a reference.
>>46430016
Titanic works. I've always just shortened it to Sword, though, as a noun and verb. Hey, how's that weapon in Sword? Hey GM, are we going to Sword tonight?
>>46429380
I'm liking what I see of BoB, if you ever see this. I remain skeptical of some choices, like fixed TNs, and still generally prefer SoS, but it's shaping up very well. Good luck to you, and I'll probably be supporting both whenever they are inevitably released.
Also, I just want to say that you guys are very wrong about your assessment of the SoS setting, as you have made the foolish mistake of not following two years of intermittent lore tidbits dropped by an alcoholic on a Chinese Cartoon image board. Instead, you foolishly looked only at the game's book, which is legitimately the worst representation of how the setting actually plays out currently available. How dare you.
Jimmy, when the hell are you going to actually compile this stuff so that people don't just see a horde of elves in the rulebook and run away? I get it's a bare bones mechanical book, but the few snippets in the book paint a terribly boring picture. Until my players started reading the wiki, they thought the majority of the setting was dry, flavorless generic fantasy? Where's the stuff to fire the imagination for people picking up the game? The impenetrable Tenja, the mysteries of Algenburg, the angry hordes of Dace, the ancient decadence of Karthack and Helion? Where's the fun stuff in the lore?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh5LY4Mz15o
Jimmy, how are mercenaries employed throughout Vosca, and are there any areas currently in conflict? Further, Dace are currently "annexing" the Infinite Steppe for arable land to make rice farms, but do they have any further plans and how do they plan to enforce their newly found borders? And do other states recognize this?
>>46430655
The goal wasn't to win right away. It was to showcase some of Builder's mechanics.
That was a pretty fun fecht to read, up there.
>>46432492
this
But could anyone tell me what BoB is? Someone just dumped the pdf here yesterday or so, and it seemed that anybody knew what it is. But since I only check these threads from time to time I don't know stuff about it.
I mean, on what way is it connected to SoS? Just the detailed approach to combat or is it a work derived from SoS?
>>46432682
>Just the detailed approach to combat or is it a work derived from SoS?
They both take inspiration from TRoS, their common ancestor. Band of Bastards focuses on quick gritty combat in mundane world. One of the authors checks SoS and OSR threads occasionally.
>>46429380
>>46432682
It's a completely separate thing from SoS with no direct connection between the two. However, it's also inspired by Riddle of Steel just like SoS and BoTits, so it's pretty interesting what approach a different group of devs take to it when starting from the same place.
>>46432682
SoS and BoB, much like BotIT were all "successors" to the game The Riddle of Steel, with the intent of fulfilling Jake Norwood's vision for roleplaying, much as Big Boss, Major Zero and Skullface all saw themselves as The Boss's successors.
So all of the games share a common ancestor, but they are starkly divergent in terms of design philosophy and theme.
Blade is more about Conanesque fantasy.
Swords is more about high fantasy "done right."
Bastards is more about fechty low fantasy done right.
Thusfar only Blade has actually launched, with a degree of success. Swords is probably the most popular overall, simply because the designers are 4channers and /tg/ is an infinite hub of autism. Also because SoS invented the Fecht.. Bastards is sort of an unknown factor, we don't know what their shtick is yet.
>>46432732
>>46432737
>>46432755
Alright thank you guys.
Just one more thing: What's the full name of BoTit?
>>46432786
Blade of the Iron Throne. And BoIT guys were generous enough to give us Ballad of the Laser Whales.
>>46432786
Blade of the Iron Throne.
BotiT (emphasis on tits) is the reason why some here refer to them as "Bovine," because lol tits on every page.
>>46432682
It's the third or fourth Riddle of Steel successor game. It was originally called Song of Steel, then Jimmy Rome drove them out of their lands and took their acronym. They renamed themselves Band of Bastards; we've nicknamed them Builder. They're a much simpler system than us and Bovine. Rather than have all our qualms and worried about how to stat each weapon in the game, Builder decided to let you build your own weapons based on a default statline and a bunch of modifiers. The idea was intriguing and we've been waiting for them to release their rule set ever since.
For their part, they looked at us one time two years ago and said "wow there's a lot of elves here. No thanks." They've also said something along the lines of "you've got to respect that these people looked at Riddle of Steel and said 'this needs to be MORE' complicated.'"
The four Riddle successors are
- Blade of the Iron Throne
- Burning Wheel
- Band of Bastards
- Song of Swords
BoB is particularly influenced by Burning Wheel, adopting their strange notation Obstacle, or Ob, for the mechanic we know as a Difficulty Class or Required Successes.
BoB credits Ian Plumb with bringing the development group together. Ian Plumb was the man responsible for giving Jimmy the name "Laser Whales", from which we have Ballad of the Laser Whales.
>>46432786
>>46432796
And because it's bound to be asked: People call Blade of the Iron Throne stuff like Bovine or Botits because it's probably the one semi-professional RPG book with the highest tits to page ratio in the industry.
>>46432823
>People call Blade of the Iron Throne stuff like Bovine or Botits
I see one or two guys pushing these names
>>46432833
I've seen it pretty regularly here for a long time. It was probably one or two guys at first but it's been bigger than that for at least a year now.
Are all of these Riddle of Steel kind of games classless?
I know SoS isOr I think to know it isbut what about the others?
>>46432817
>- Burning Wheel
Didn't even know that Burning Wheel and SoS are in the same "family" of RPGs damn.
Guess I learned quite a bit today.
Again, thank you all, that has been very helpfull
>>46432859
They are all classless partly by choice, partly by legacy. TRoS was based on narrative character progression and generation. It fits semirealistic gritty campaigns better than abstract leveling in rigid classes.
>>46432859
The intro to Burning Wheel Gold is written by Jake Norwood. In it he gushed about how much he loves Burning Wheel.
Branching out from Song of Swords, you have Ballad of the Laser Whales.
Branching out from Bovine you have Realms of the Perisphere.
Yes, they're all class-less systems.
Something unique to Song of Swords is John Galt. He's ours alone.
>>46432755
>Blade is Zero, old veteran zealously following what he believes was his idol's dream
>>46423918
I miss coffeemancer
>>46410077
8ch<dot>net/cuteboys/res/118544.html
Here Jimmy, in thanks for all you have done for us I present to you a trove up anime girl reaction pics.
Use in good health and pay little attention to the rest of the board/thread, just the anime girls.
>>46435022
>pay little attention to the rest of the board/thread
Well it is Jimmy you're talking about.
>>46435022
>spreading Jimmy's shitposting influence elsewhere
You fiend.
>>46435022
>700 posts of traps flirting with cute anime girl images
Fuck's sake, it's like /a/^2
>>46437054
+/b/^2=/c/^2
>>46432755
>with a degree of success
Yes, a single degree, enough to exist.
Let's play the game. I poke my finger blindly at the map of Vosca. You tell me one fact about that area. Go.
>>46440001
There's water there.
>>46440024
Fascinating. Your turn.
>>46440001
Congratulations, you found one place of many where there is nothing of interest.
>>46440001
Helion dominates the inner sea because of laser-shooting magic ships, but Old Radovan also has a controlling share, and even supports their interests.
>Old Radovan
>One of the oldest Zells period, and he looks his age due to frequent trips to the land. Radovan is the current King of the Tattered Sea, the only true Zellish Nation. He rules from his "Twirling Court," a massive Zellislava that sits immobile over a permanent whirlpool in the Tattered Isles, ever-spinning, and invincible to assault. Nobody is quite certain which of The Seven Radovan follows, as he hasn't mentioned it, and skillfully evades the question whenever it is posed. This has allowed him to gather a multi-tribal group that has the power to control The Tatters, and thus all trade on the interior coast of Vosca.
>>46440106
It's a narrowing strait near the Tatters and Helion. There should be something of note.
>>46440116
>laser-shooting magic ships
Are those flying ships or semimodern ironclads with lasers? How would they fare against huge Zellislava?
>>46440186
There's probably some zell faggotry that goes down, but zells do their shit all over anyway.
>>46440024
>doesn't mention the void at the bottom of the sea
>>46440235
Men-O-War with giant painted prows that shoot lasers out of the eyes, much as the actual elves do.
They're considered the strongest single navy in the setting, but zells could get an edge one way or another. The eyes lasers would wreck any ship they could fire on, though I imagine large enough zellislava (and there are few) could soak several hits and inflict good damage back on the enemy fleet.
Old Radovan's city-ship could probably contest an entire navy, since its made of about a dozen galleon equivalent vessels united with zell magic (and it is said to be "invincible to assault").
>>46440336
How do elves operate men-o-war if they live on the flying island? Where are their harbors and ports? Do they drop supplies from big flying rock?
>>46440557
There's ways to get up and down Anon, they're not trapped up there.
>>46440557
There's a big island underneath the floating one where all the slaves live, and where presumably they have their ports.
>>46440336
>Men-O-War
Damn, I always pictured them more as classical Galleys.
>>46440557
>The city itself is clearly artificial. It stands on a perfectly chiseled plateau close to a hundred feet above the sea, upon which sits the mighty and eternal city of the elves. Much of it physically floats above the plateau itself, due to the enormous amount of magic funneled into the place, which is essentially the "heart" of the magical leylines that flow through the world.
>Humans and other visitors content themselves with the massive docks that fill the sea around the city, but once upon a time (as evidenced by the remnants found in the Tattered Sea,) the city of Helion may well have encompassed the entire ocean, floating above the water like some terrible city of the gods.
...
>Helion doesn't just have a navy, Helion has THE navy. No other state in the world can match them in sheer size and power, not even the massive Zellish fleets of Rade Sark or Old Radovan. In fact, it is well known that Radovan is in bed (literally) with the Orredin, and will support them even over other Zells.
>The Helian navy is huge, and their vessels are of exquisite quality. The Orredin themselves tend to be great fans of sailing, and boat races are considered a very noble and masculine pastime. As a result, they often spend colossal amounts of money independently to design faster, better, more maneuverable and more sturdy ships for their own use. This investment has bled into their military. Helian vessels are centuries more advanced than their closest competitors, and can fly through the water like birds through the air, brave the stormiest waters of the Tattered Sea, and carry powerful weapons, many of them Sorcerous in nature.
>>46440699
>>46440557
>In the lowest reaches below the city live only slaves, in a district known to locals as the Dark. It is probably the single worst place to actually live in Vosca. Even Dace has certain things recommending it, but the place is a literal mountain of shit and detritus with a constant low-level rain of more pouring down on it.
>This area does have a purpose, however, and the slaves who live there do as well. The logistics of keeping the population of Helion itself supplied with water and food require a massive amount of manpower. Huge systems of pipes, water-holding platforms and pumps allow massive teams of slaves to move the water high up enough that magically-powered systems topside can draw it the rest of the way. Food isn't generally grown on Helion itself (anymore) and so must be shipped in and transported up to a high enough place that be moved onto the island by similar means as the water.
>The island itself is also the de-facto port of the floating city, since boats can't exactly get up there, so there's a lot of trade, and free men do live there, eking a living off of the trade industry. It isn't a very popular location, but traders who want access to Orredin goods and Orredin gold have no other choice but to stop there.
>>46440604
>>46440622
>>46440699
Thanks lads, that was informative.
>>46440698
I don't actually remember them being described as Men-O-Wars at any point.
>>46440766
Yeah, overall the naval designs in Vosca are generally pre-napoleonic for the most part. Even the Zells mostly tool around in Cog-equivalents and the occasional Carrack.
>>46440766
The picture reference Jimmy used for them was a trireme, though that might've just been for the laser eyes bit.
Where do the Orredin even get their money? They can't be just living on the savings from when they were relevant, can they?
>>46440862
Generally.
>Helian vessels are centuries more advanced than their closest competitors
>>46441019
Trade and politics.
>>46441043
But they have nothing much to trade and nobody wants to politic with them.
>>46441019
Why not? Money breeds more money. Even without any resources of their own, they've got easily enough capital to maintain or even increase their overall wealth through trade and the like. It probably also helps that they're in an incredibly central location functioning as a trade hub, and are also virtually impossible to invade.
>>46441019
They do sort of have a commanding position on what must be an enormous trade route through the central sea.
>>46441125
>nothing much to trade
What part of "dominates the inner sea" doesn't scream merchant republic?
>no one wants to politic
Is this a joke? They're frequently described as having fingers in everyone's pie, and they still hold on to to a certain reputation and respect. The setting's varangian guard are all humans who are trying to prove their worth through combat to get that elf pussy.
>>46441019
>They can't be just living on the savings from when they were relevant, can they?
Is.. is that a joke?
No really, there comes a point where you have so many assets, people in debt to you and financial infrastructure that you become a go-to place for business.
>>46441209
>The setting's varangian guard are all humans who are trying to prove their worth through combat to get that elf pussy.
Orredin could rebuild their nation much faster if they were looking for strong human pussy instead
>>46441345
Unfortunately that doesn't work because of some made up elf bullshit that Jimmy wrote into their biology specifically to make that not work.
>>46441715
Sexually repressed male Din become a trend.
>>46441715
I don't actually recall that, don't all Human-Orredin pairings result in humans and you have to just keep throwing elf at the offspring till you get a full-blood Orredin?
>>46403014
>>46441843
Yes, basically. But that doesn't prevent the optimal breeding situation from being "each elf male gets a harem of humans, as many as he can fuck" and just making the more elf-blooded humans the preferred choices.
>>46441901
It's been mentioned that most interracial pairings aside from Zells favor the mother's phenotype, so Ohanedin (m) plus Burdinadin (f) result in Burdinadin offspring.
Maybe they have to have a female Orredin as the mother to even have a shot at it working. Then again, women are also allowed in the Purple Guard (I think Gizka was actually a candidate at one time) so they probably have amazon harems as well.
>>46441715
>Unfortunately that doesn't work because of some made up elf bullshit that Jimmy wrote into their biology specifically to make that not work.
Does anyone have that screencap about Jimmy worshiping the dark god of masturbation and fetishes?
>>46442129
This one?
>>46442241
He can't keep getting away with it.
>>46441715
He did mention women enter the Guard, and get the same reward if they prove themselves. There just aren't as many.
>>46432755
I should like the BoB approach more, since I usually hate high fantasy. If the goal of the Tattered Realms is doing high fantasy right, they are doing something correctly.
Are there other settings, in games or novels, that have the similar blending of high fantasy and mysticism with very humanistic politics and conflicts and historical aesthetics?
dead
>>46445415
Shitposting doesn't help. Swordposting does.
Threads about to fall off the board so does anyone want to stat and outfit pic related?
Son of a wealthy merchant and was kicked out of a prestigious university for accidentally killing a fellow student during a duel, thanks to his modest skill and formal training. Has since become a traveling adventurer and a bit of a drunk since realizing his dreams of becoming a world renowned poet will never come to fruition.
>>46449061
>dual wielding swords
>>46449287
I assumed the offhand was a parrying dagger.
>>46449287
> Anno Domini 2,016
> Not fighting Florentine
Do you even Agrippa?
>>46449287
>left hand pommel and blade clearly different
>man is wearing a sword scabbard, and a sheath fit for a dagger
>>two swords reee
No.
>>46449061
>those pants
>>46449287
>>46449419
>>46449590
>>46449766
rekt
>>46449061
So is the the Hero Of The Story, Hero Of A Kinda Gritty Story, or Hero Of A Really Gritty Story?
>>46450507
This is the most important question.
>>46450507
Sidekick to a surly and suicidal dwarf that must die in glorious combat in order to erase a personal shame.
While drunk he pledged an oath to the dwarf that he would be witness to and record such a death in poem. He hates himself for it every day.
>>46451180
That sounds awesome.
>>46451224
Warhammer Fantasy, so Kind Of Gritty is my bet.
>>46451180
>>46450507
They do wind up defeating some really nasty shit though.Has /SoS/ really never heard of Gotrek and Felix?
>>46451265
They were killed more than a year ago
>>46451265
I'm just as surprised as you anon.
>>46451224
I recommend the books by the first author, William King. By the time I was getting used to the second author of the series, Nathan Long, they switched him out and the series just seemed to start going downhill from there.
One of the newer authors also killed off most of the fan favorite returning characters. If remember right.
The first book, Trollslayer, is a collection of short stories about the two that were written by King beforehe was commissioned to write full novels about them. Each short story can be used as a gaming session or two so I would recommend reading them just for that.
>>46443442
A few. The Witcher is kind of like that, but otherwise this is a pretty new niche.
>>46451265
My attachment to Warhammer Fantasy is the same as my attachment to 40k: Only ever through FFG games and hardly any reading.
>>46452485
Honestly if you enjoy FFG take on Fantasy you'll probably enjoy the first few Gotrek and Felix books. Especially Trollslayer.
>>46452530
Oh, I agree, but I find it hard enough to focus on more than one book at a time. I'll check it out after I'm done with the Witcher and some other things.
>>46452548
No worries man, I'm the same way.
No idea how my mate reads 4 books at a time. Cycles through them after each chapter. The madman.
>>46452614
I'm reading this Night Land thing because of what you guys said about.
Really fascinating stuff. Did people really used to capitalize nouns at random like this, or is there some hard ruling to it that I fail to understand? Like, if they're referring to something in particular, does that make it a proper noun?
Great read though. It's amazing that this book was written a hundred years ago.
>>46452650
IIRC english used to capitalise any and all nouns until fairly recently, like most other european languages still do today. I'm guessing that particular book ended up in the transitory period between then and now.
Jimmy you mother fucker, how are you?
Update your pawn damn it.
>>46452692
That'd make sense. Does French do that? I thought it was only German. I know those guys just love capitalizing shit.
>>46452694
I did, got her some dragonforged equipment and a few levels. I'm starting a new job, so my hours have been a bit weird. I'm going to try and break level 80 before the end of the week.
>>46452707
Thank you blessed Jimmu.
Even though she was a good 30 lvls below me during the time that I had her she was pretty kickass. Loved to hold onto things and stab the shit out of them.
Good luck with your new job. Mind if I ask what field it's in?
>>46452650
It's for emphasis and to indicate that certain collective or common nouns are important. There's no hard and fast rule.
>>46452707
Huh, I'll be damned, I'd thought the latin languages were among those, but it turns out they're not. Must've been a brainfart or something. Seems like it's indeed mostly a thing in German. The Danes and Norwegians used to do it but abandoned it recently, so it's down to just Germany, Austria, and Switzerland nowadays. Oh, and Luxembourg, of all places.
>>46452830
From looking it up, Old and Middle English didn't do it either. It's only a 17th and 18th century thing.
>>46452753
I'm delivering for a pizza place. Ignoble, but it's a college town, and I know the streets very well, so there's a lot of money to be made there.
I'm going through the game as a mage right now, to try seeing things from the other side.
>>46443008
He is immune to consequence. He learned the secret art from a wise Japanese master of the art called "White" during the heyday of WW2
>>46452935
Sorcerer is glorious if you enjoy charging your attacks and knowing the feeling of unlimited power.
Literally ruined magic in most other games for me.
Also I would love to have you be my pizza delivery boy Jimmy.
>>46453085
I'd tip him if you know what I mean.
That is, I'd sodomize him.
>>46442241
Shit man thanks, didn't even realize you uploaded it.
>>46452650
Here, read this: http://www.amazon.com/Awake-Night-Land-John-Wright-ebook/dp/B00JM98V60
It's arguably better than the original.
>>46453659
So I've heard. Wright is supremely based.
You know how I know? He named one of his kids Just.
Haven't been here for a few months, any progress happening? How's Australia doing?
Visit his blog some time, he's quotable as fuck.
