Infinity is a 28mm scale skirmish game where CB makes joke characters but the community loves them and wants them to be real.
>All the rules are for free. Buying the books is only relevant for fluff:
http://www.infinitythegame.com/archive.php
>Provisional Catalog where you can look at pretty pictures of the miniatures you're thinking of getting:
http://www.infinitythegame.com/catalogue/
>Rules wiki:
http://wiki.infinitythegame.com/en/Main_Page
>Official Army Builder:
http://www.infinitythegame.com/army
>New Official Army Builder that doesn't work properly:
https://army.infinitythegame.com/
>Token Generator:
http://inf-dice.ghostlords.com/markers/
>N3 Hacker Helper:
http://www.captainspud.com/n3hacking/
>N3 Reverse Index Web App (so you could compare units across factions)
http://n3index.bastian-dornauf.de/
>Batreps:
http://www.youtube.com/#/playlist?list=PLzrPO7KIAtwXlOUh545nq21WQaW7YxuGc
>Terrain:
http://pastebin.com/Hy9SRkmJ
>Faction Rundown:
http://www.mediafire.com/view/mqaaf5fosmti5b4/Infinity_Faction_Rundown_v.1.3.rtf
>All Consolidated Rules:
https://www.mediafire.com/?xm5aqb4sdx4g446
>Operation Icestorm Scan (beginner missions)
https://mega.nz/#!AkkG0ZZA!CE-YzCWIWVROcSnnlkZI8SMWxWoNb1LkFbWI-LamYR8
>Latest news is the Economically Questionable RPG Kickstarter
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/modiphius/corvus-bellis-infinity-roleplaying-game
>The Actual Faction Poll
http://strawpoll.me/5146634
>Scans (More Needed):
http://www.mediafire.com/download/a6nel34mw0la3bb/Infinity+1st+edition+Rulebook.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/wd3pbtpjp5w9dig/Infinity+-+Corvus+Belli+S.L.L.+-+Human+Sphere.pdf
>Check out Operation: Flamestrike
http://flamestrike.warconsole.com
>Previous Thread:
>>46379578
First for MO NERFS REEEEEEEEEEEE
So, how many of you have immediately ran to the nearest FLGS to get EVO remotes?
I didn't... Yet.Decided to paint up all the remotes I have first and that's 3 to go.
Third for HOLY FUCKING SHIT THOSE NEW WU MING
Protip: don't believe spoilers today unless there are pictures.
>>46395834
The fat Yuan Yuan bothers me. In the cannon Infinity fluff in my head there are diet pills that means that nobody is ever fat. So a Fat Yuan Yuan doesn't fit in with this, and therefore should never be in the game. Anybody who likes the Fat Yuan Yuan is in violation of the Head Fluff and should be terminated!
>>46396045
Already own all the EVO repeaters. However running to my FLGS to corner the market sounds like a find business strategy!
>>46396317
Aren't Yuan Yuans some sort of outlaw scum even Nomads won't hang with? I can imagine one of them being fat just because he can.
>>46396317
What if they want to be fat though?
>>46396182
New Wu Ming?
>>46396384
Sorry, in my official cannon head fluff that nobody knows but me TV keeps people from wanting to be fat via propaganda.
>>46396428
New profiles make wu Ming even more sex
Asking this again since I didn't get a lot of feedback last time.
I'm trying to figure out how to expand my Nomads. I picked up the starter a few other cool things and I'm not sure where to go from here.
I have:
Op: Icestorm
Interventors
Iguana
Intruder w/ HMG & Multisniper
I've been looking at Jaguars and Hellcats but I know I need more specialists. I have been looking at Jaguars for smoke, Tomcats, and the Bandit. Are there better options I should be looking at?
>>46396428
New loadouts. Duo, chain/SMG, HRL, linking with a Zhanying, the works.
>>46396045
I've sold mine weeks ago Anon.
Do any of you know if there had been any changes to G: server. I still have trouble understanding why Chimera and Pups have different traits or Symbiobeasts have super jump and controllers don't.
>>46396045
>implying I have a FLGS that sells Infinity
>or a FLGS within 2 hours drive.
Ah well, the internets provides
Alright. Links for Haramaki, Magisters and the like. Personally I read that as being able to form regular Core links *as well* as those specialized links with Domarus/Hospitalers/whatever, but I can see how it could be read differently. What's your guys' take on this?
I can't lie, I'd hate to lose my five magister link. They have served me faithfully so far and don't really deserve such. Even bought the MO starter only for the magister (teutons were and still are kinda crap; I also didn't start MO to lug around glorified fusiliers, i.e. order sergeants).
>>46396708
I think they deliberately killed the Magister Link because otherwise that +1 B/+1 PH damage was a bit much. Adding a Hospitalier or Santiago ups the cost.
>>46396708
>teutons were and still are kinda crap
Then why the FUCK didn't they fix them now or when N3 first hit?
Stupid fucking lazy ass spaniards...
>>46396545
Those are all good options.
Jaguars are fantastic for smoke and dogged chain rifles.
Tomcats seem fantastic on paper and others report great success with them, but mine always seem to die the moment they come down. Oh well, they're still my favourites.
Bandit looks great. I plan to get one when my LGS gets one in stock.
Other (not necessarily better) options:
-Morans play a similar role to Bandits of infiltrating specialist, but they typically play a more reactive role by threatening crazy koalas and hacking AROs over the repeater.
-Support pack comes with your clockmaker and your daktari. Decent specialists even if they aren't as exciting as Tomcats.
-Also, the Intruder hacker profile is not bad. You could proxy one of your Intruders for that. Really the only things against it are the cost in points and orders not spent shooting dudes. Still, if you're short on specialists its an option to consider.
I notice you've got mostly Corregidor units, so I'll keep it to that. Also because that's what I'm most familiar with.
>>46396815
Aldo if they're shit they NEED fire teams to even stay relevant at the very fucking least
>>46396708
yo Jennie babe you got a clearer pic of that stuff?
>>46396545
Those are all great. Might want to put Zeroes, Moran, Zond Remotes for consideration, but nothing wrong with your choices. I'd lean towards the Toms for versatility out of those you mentioned. You already have the big guns covered.
>>46396816
>Tomcats seem fantastic on paper and others report great success with them, but mine always seem to die the moment they come down.
Well, you need to have them come down out of sight. They have 4-4 move with Climbing Plus, they can shorten the distance easily.
>>46396317
Well Yuan Yuan already live in the fringes of society, maybe diet pills aren't on their or his priority.
>>46395834
FIRST ONE TO GET THE NAME CARLOS IN THIS THREAD IS BOSTRIA!
So, no news on G: Synchronized?
>>46397024
>Rolling for Carlos.
>>46396967
Yeah, but PanOceania has been spending billions to convince the people on the outskirts to take the diet pills, which produce a wonderful high. So they're super popular, and cut down on food production.
>>46397024
I AM BOSTRIA.
>>46397024
>tfw need to siesta
>>46397328
Or not.
>>46396545
Depends if you want to stay on vainilla or move to sectorial.
There are no "obligatory" miniatures. But these are nice for the ability's and provided a nice options tactics:
->Moran, Bandits, Zero, Quimeras, Alguacile suport box of 4 with special weapons, SoulEater with sniper/hmg, spec-ops if allowed.
Scanon here, you guys want special skills and equipment or me to redo the army list entries?
Haqq army list please?
>>46397469
Nice! Jumper level 1, ant the mercenary army list!
>>46397494
There are in the old thread! How this works?
>>46374715 ?
>>46397530
i'll do the skills section first. gimme about 20 minutes.
>>46397494
http://pastebin.com/raw/PuSFiq6a
Ghost: Jumper and Ghost: Synchronized please!
>>46397469
Clearer Pano sectorial Ava page please and thank you
>>46397469
I'm still thinking there should be an "upgrade" page or column for CA units from Vanilla N3 (like for other sectorials) which you didn't post yet. Would you care to look for it?
>>46397469
Skills, rest of the stuff is mostly deciphered.
>>46397608
Can I ask for clearer versions of: Zhanyings (new profiles), Pheasant point costs, and the page with Raktorak stats? Everything I transcribe will end up here as a pastebin.
And if you have extra time, art of entirely new & unseen units (Shikami, Blackjack, Unknown Ranger, Hassassin Ayyar, Bakunin Taskmaster, Nexus Operative, Locust, Andromeda, and/or the new Tohaa stuff?
>>46397469
Redo the army lists, there's a ton of unclear point costs. But skills & equips first.
>>46397890
its 2 fucking pages. unless i got a defective copy of the book then thats it.
>>46397411
>>46396875
>>46396816
Thanks guys, probably going to grab the support pack and the Jaguars for now. Maybe the Bandit just because that model is awesome. I'll hold off on the Zero for right now just because I have a great proxy in the Spektr. Morans are pretty high on the list though they look awesome
How good are the Hellcats though? Jump troops are pretty popular around here and they seem cool
>>46398187
Yep, jump troops are cool, but I only use one in the same list, so they are no priority. Tomcat engineer is very good thought...
Also you can buy new releases, the new sculpts are super nice!
Taking longer than expected. Light is getting shtty here. Here's the Pano sectorial page.
>>46398403
Much appreciated.
>>46398403
yujing close up.
>>46398403
Thanks! Can we see mercenary's? and Ghost's jumper?
>>46398496
Oh, wow, didn't think they actually gave the Yan Huo ML Neurocinetics. It's not as situational anymore.
Can someone help me figure out a rule here? I'm someone new getting into the hobby. I'm trying to get a grasp on all the basics before playing. I have watched a Battle Report on youtube, and it helped a lot, but one thing doesn't make sense to me.
https://youtu.be/qxzu7MRK-H8?t=23m21s
With this order, the USAriadna player moves his FO out of cover, and then moves back into cover, and then does a FO action against the Grenzer's shooting.
But FO is a BS skill. From what I can tell, he did a Move-Move-BS Skill... Which doesn't make any sense. Shouldn't it have been a Move-BS skill, with the delay ARO triggering when the Foxtrot was still in sight and using his second action to FO? If it's a Move-Move, he's out of line of sight for that order, so he can't FO anymore. As far I can tell, he does a move out of cover to gain LOS, then moves into cover for some reason, then uncamos and does the FO. That's three actions. These guys seem to know their stuff, so what am I not getting?
Are there weapons charts?
>>46398625
They declare move, and they can shoot in any path of the movement. no need to shoot at the end of the order.
>>46398625
You can choose to perform your second skill partway through your first skill.
So the first skill here was to peek out of cover and back. The second skill is to shoot at a point during the first where he had LoF.
>>46398625
You can shoot along any point of your movement as its all simultaneous
>>46398686
>>46398684
>>46398668
Oh I get it, so the move in and move out was one seamless action. It's hard to tell on the youtube video for someone new to this, but I guess it must be clear to everyone else that that is only 2 inches in and then 2 inches back. Thanks for clearing that up.
Also in those battle reports are a lot of mistakes... you can play, spot the mistake and drink a shoot, you only stay sober for 5 minutes...
>>46398625
I can't watch the video but I'll tell you this. As far as the game is concerned, all actions are roughly simultaneous, that is, you can pick a spot during your or your opponent's movement for when you are shooting. So, for example, if it's your reactive turn and your opponent moved from one building to another, while it may have been out of line of fire in the begining and the end of that movement, you can pick the spot where the model was out in the open to be the point in which you're shooting the model. Likewise, an active player may do the same declaring move+shoot back at that opponent.
In that case, the model just made a rough round about movement of 4" as the first short skill, ARO would've been declared, + FO for the second short skill.
>>46398754
Then I dare you to drink yourself to death them
>>46398116
Thank you for checking. Seems like it's a mistery why they included a special program for CA KHDs then, perhaps for future reference.
>>46398403
Could you tell us how Mechanical Transmutation works now?
Is it still a Short Skill? Is it a Short Movement Skill?
>>46398295
What exactly do engineers do? Just claim objectives?
>>46399187
They also repair REMs and TAGs and are used to remove some nasty status effects.
>>46399187
They also repair broken or burnt equipment, like Camo.
>>46395909
How did they get nerfed? I dont think any sectorial got hit as hard as QK
>>46399413
Some people are saying stuff about Teutons not having link teams anymore, Magisters not getting buffs and somesuch.
Honestly though they've actually made Santiago and Montessa playable now and gave Sergeants some nice weapons. And they got a sectoral specific discount Nisse with anti-kebab utility.
Also does anyone else get the feeling that a lot of the updates are meant to quell Kurwaspam? Like Fireteam Duo and Harris everywhere basically giving big units much needed order efficiency and general buffs to medium and heavy units.
>>46399496
DeFersen might be the only one that's a bit sad in HS. Basic device is better than hacking device. I think he has a better place in generic with some other hackers.
Duo gave few HI profiles order conservation. I wouldn't call it Kurwakiller ability. It's nice you're not as harshly penalised for bringing two HI in the list. I think Carlos even said that it's not likely you'll bring 5 HI link to ITS game.
>>46399413
>qhapu kalqi nerfed because previously strong
>nca untouched and even got buffed after being so damn strong
Top fucking kek
I've forgotten already- what are MadTraps?
>>46399413
What got hit in QK?
Speaking of Haqq sectorials, has there been any mention of Caliphate?
>>46399874
>NCA even stronger
>Bolts, the face of NCA, still suck horribly
Just...why?
>>46399413
The presumed loss of pure magister links is fucking awful, but a lot of their other new stuff is really cool, first and foremost the new Montesa and Sandiago.
>>46400050
its taking me a while, sorry.
>>46400050
No more linkable Azra'il, only 2 Hafza can join a Core Fireteam, Hafza can't join mercenary Fireteams.
On the plus side; up to one Hafza can now join a Haris link, and Sekban have got a lot better.
I'm considering retiring the Kaplan link now and perhaps running a Sekban Core team with a couple of Hafza, Oda Haris team with a Hafza FO and maybe a Druze Duo.
>>46400066
The Magister text doesn't seem like it forbids a 5 man magister link but rather gives you more options. RIP Teutons though.
>>46398496
Thanks a bunch, filling the holes now.
I'll probably post a combined pasta before I go to sleep.
>>46400050
Both direct and indirect nerfs, actually. Direct as in Azra'il loosing linkable with no replacement, even though people were so sure they'd get Duo; indirect as in everybody and their dog getting Haris links, many of them way better than QK's own.
Need Merc (Scarface, Yuan-Yuan and ect) stats! Please, gibe-gibe!!!
>>46400224
Totally forgot about the poor Teutons. I don't know if a Haris would have saved them, but at least it'd have been something.
>>46400113
Cheers man, no worries!
>>46400224
Shit, I'll never get to run my Azra'Il & Hafza link team idea. Has anybody ever had any success with that anyways?
Aside from that I never linked Azra'Il and never run Hafza so I'm ok with this. I'm actually in the school of though that Sekban are good as is too, how have they improved?
Oda Haris with Hafza FO sounds good too.
>>46400351
No Azra'Il duo is kinda weird. Are Yan Huo getting duo?
>>46400461
As Yan Huo aren't in any Sectorials, I am guessing we won't know for a while. Though Shang Ji got Duo for some reason.
>>46400224
That does suck but, Hafza can now have Rocket Launchers which is pretty boss. Also, I don't KQ can even have any Mercenary fire teams.
Druze and Kaplan aren't listed as merc troops in the Sectoral army list.
This might be a stupid question, but I read that the new standard for play was meant to be shifted towards 400pts. Is there anything to that or just the ususal bullshit?
>>46400511
Haven't heard anything about that, so probably bullshit.
>>46400050
Caliphate will be in the next book, Bostria hinted something about the average HI being only able to suck the genetically-enhanced dicks of Arabic ubermenschen.
>>46400461
Sekban have all got +1BS
>>46400503
Druze and Kaplan teams are mercenary fireteams.
>>46400545
So like 5 years from now?
>>46400575
>Sekban have all got +1BS
Fuckin' A!
>>46400575
Where does it say that?
In the sectoral list, it lists the things that aren't part of the normal list as "Mercenary" but Druze and Kaplan aren't.
>>46400577
Late 2017/early 2018 is probably a reasonable guess.
>>46400511
>>46400527
I remember reading something similar around when Icestorm was being revealed. Nothing seems to have come of it however.
>>46400577
I wouldn't be surprised if a few new sectorials get released with a fancy starter box and event before the new book similar to the USARF release.
>>46400224
I dont want to drop the KTS link, because they're one of my favorite models in QK. I feel like CB is trying to push the Sekban too hard, because they were pretty decent previously. Now they get Hafza Linkability, +1BS, and Duo while Odalisques and KTS get nothing (in the KTS's case, they loose Hafzas).
Druze on the other hand I get. They need that boost.
>>46400494
Vanilla can gey Duo with Team Pro.
>>46400656
The wording is
>Special Fireteam: Core, up to 2 Hafzas can join any Fireteam: Core, but not those of mercenary troops, of this sectorial army.
Kaplan and Druze are both mercenary units, and are the only mercenary options that are linkable in QK, so the meaning is pretty fucking obvious.
FUCK
net dropped out for a bit.
Skills coming in.
>>46400772
KTS are currently listed as Veteran Troops not mercs in QK, on both Army V & Army VI
>>46400799
>>46400575
Who even used Hafza in KTS teams anyway? Kaplans are extremely good value.
>>46400799
Oh yeah, Casevac, the skill no one remembers exists.
>>46400865
And Druze were added to generic Haqqislam in this book, so it isn't obvious, though it is ambiguous.
>>46400772
Where are they listed as "Mercenaries" though? Under their unit profiles they are listed as "Veteran Troops" and any of the "Mercenary" troops in the sectoral list are listed as "Nomad Mercenary" or whatever.
I know that in their fluff they are basically security firms but, in the rules, I don't see any reason why they would be considered "Mercenaries" considering they are a part of the normal army list. Fluff does not equal crunch after all. It has to be listed somewhere in the rules if that's an actual rule. Otherwise, they should count as normal troops. It might be listed somewhere else in the book that we don't have.
>>46400888
>>46400943
>>46400865
You make a good point. But it's still a bit ambiguous. KTS are of Haqqislam origin and in the vanilla army even before the Druze. But on the other hand they are Mercs from Beyhan Resources.
>>46400896
I did. KTS MSR, KTS Spitfire, KTS Doc/Eng + 2 Hafza FOs. This team has been in nearly all of my QK lists because the Hafzas saved me like 20 points.
>>46400711
Oh man, don't make me dream of a Svalarheima or a White Banner starter box of the quality of the USAriadna one.
>>46400995
>>46400461
In my last game I ran a 2 azra'il 3 hafza fireteam for shits and giggles and it almost single handedly shot up the entirety of my opponents force. bs 19 hmg and fueurbach when in the proper range is nasty.
>>46401040
>>46401053
azra'il links were like, one of the main reasons to run QK when sectorials first dropped, too. Seems strange to just cut that option after giving them new models.
>>46401086
>>46400901
>Still can't use Casevac to have a Seraph carry around its Auxbot.
Time to continue ignoring the skill for another few years.
>>46401127
>>46401185
>>46401096
Now you've got no shortage of reasons to run QK, though. Hafzas are crazy convenient even after the nerf.
Personally I would've given the Azra'il duo. It's beneficial without being prone to ridiculous Hafza bullshit.
>>46401230
>>46401279
>>46396317
What if that is Yuan Yuan with diet pills?
>>46401330
>>46401185
Holy shit, Mechanical Transmutation now works at the start of a move skill, like standing up/going prone.
The Su-Jian just got even better.
>>46401260
>Now you've got no shortage of reasons to run QK, though
it's just kind of annoying
Duo, or a Haris profile would be kinda nice on them, instead of just canning the link entirely.
>>46401185
>Su Jian gets even stronker
Noice. Well, looks like I've finally got that reason to use the combat form.
>>46401398
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>>46401717
God's work Darlene.
>>46401858
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>>46401185
Hmm, Su Jian stronk. Now I have to decide between this or possibly that dual ML Yan Huo + neurocinetics.
>>46402156
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>>46402517
and thats all the skill stuff
For those dumping, I love you. Also tinbots and merc profiles are still a mystery to the masses.
>>46402603
this shit took a lot longer than i expected. i'll probably redo all the lists and post the tohaa and mercs on sunday if there isnt a good scan out by then.
im gonna slowly start posting the equipment and weapons.
>>46402712
Minesweeper? Thank you so much
>>46402603
What tinbots are still unrevealed? I've only seen 2 new ones, Neurocinetics and Albedo, which are known skills.
>>46402829
Spotbot
>>46402759
>>46402879
>>46402914
>>46402951
>>46402829
Why the skills are on tinbots and not the operators, Neurocinetics especially.
>>46402873
That one's been known for ages, it's somewhere in the official PDFs already.
>>46403000
You mean, why not added as (Neurocinetics) to the profile? I assume that as equipment Tinbots can be destroyed/disabled somehow, which would remove the skill.
>>46402997
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>>46403068
i'm gonna go take a break for about an hour. theres a lot more weapons and shit after this. the fucking captcha makes me starving. FIND THE FISH, FIND THE STEAK, FIND THE SANDWICH
>>46403118
Great job, thanks.
>>46403068
Strange, wasn't electric pulse a core rule?
>>46402879
>stun got buffed to be something other than inferior normal ammo, flash grenades got replaced with something stronger
Good on you, CB.
>>46403037
Nope. Unless something changed in the new book, Tinbots are entirely pointless. Their only purpose is for CB to sell minis of tiny robots.
>>46403185
Just checked. Tinbots (at least the Deflector ones from the main N3 book) are Comms Equipment and can be affected by various stuff, like E/M ammo.
So I played NCA at the infinity team tornament at adepticon, 2 tables were straight European and my partners 2 ML haramaki link just destroyed everything.. they don't lie about "the game ending in turn 1 aros" because we got through 1 turn, 2 turns, and 2 turns in 3 rounds. Ended up going 2-1 with 17 objective points. Not a bad day but didn't place.
>>46403427
> 2 tables were straight European
Insufficient terrain kills, kids.
>>46403328
Deflectors themselves are comms equipment though, so Tinbots A and B are completely pointless. There may be a point to the Neurocinetics one if it can be disabled.
>>46403628
Huh. I didn't look at it that way. I'll wait for the HSN3 rules and see.
>>46403551
There were 2 haramaki missiles up here who saw the whole table.
Also team name
>5 guys haramaki and fries
>>46403185
they seem alright to me, then again i run hi links so i like having that insurance policy.
>>46403844
Jesus Christ.
That's not a Euro-table, that's a "What the fuck are you doing"-table.
>>46403899
Oh, I didn't mean the tinbots are pointless in games. I was referring to the tinbot rule itself. Things would be exactly the same if the Deflector was applied directly to the HI.
>>46404052
Yeah but you wouldn't have adorable little robots you could put on the table. I'm all for little cute robots.
>>46403118
back for a bit.
heres the last page>>46400113
now the next
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>>46405742
>tfw Unidrons have STR and Overdrons/Xenodrons have Wounds.
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>>46405825
LOLWUT
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>>46405898
the last page is pretty much unreadable - would u be so kind and take another picture?
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>>46405961
the ejection page?
>>46406107
yes, the ejection page
>>46406139
>>46405960
this one
>>46405532
Submachine gun getting some sort of ghetto MULTI is pretty sweet. I wonder if they'll get more expensive as a result.
>>46405793
>Biolocator acts as a repeater when activated
Oh me oh my. Those TAGs aren't as safe from my Kuang Shi as they once were.
No.46405898
this is the blurry one
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>>46406169
aight, will get to it tomorrow. cant do muhc tonight.
>>46406085
i'd like to point out that this is an entire page with just words on it. when other companies are trying to streamline and make shit easier and more concise good to see CB goes the opposite direction
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>>46406213
its good enough to me.
>>46406351
Are Jammers not in the weapons section?
>>46406383
i'll double check
>>46406351
>>46406432
You are awesome. Thanks for all the time you're putting into this.
>>46406432
>>46406383
fuck, i accidentally skipped those pages.
>>46406498
>>46406498
and thats it. thats the meat of the book. aside from the missions and a bit of a preamble of some shit in beginning thats the book.
i know theres a lot of shit that needs to get redone, and the 2 pages i missed. i'll get the pages i missed and the ejection page tomorrow. Might redo the army lists if someone doesnt come up with a better scan.
feel free to ask any questions you have also. i can also just list the answer to you.
>>46405932
-Troopers with G: Remote Presence and an STR Attribute have two distinct levels of Unconsciousness.
-In game terms, when a trooper with G: Remote Presence loses all STR points, it enters the Unconscious state like any other trooper would. However, if the trooper receives damage again and loses one further STR point, it does not enter the Dead state as usual, but instead enters a SECOND LEVEL of the Unconscious state signified by a second Unconscious Marker (UNCONSCIOUS). Only if the user loses further STR points does it fall Dead and is removed from play.
-Troopers with G: Remote Presence need only an Engineer in base to base contact to pass a single WIP Roll in order to recover from either level of Unconsciousness and revert back to STR 1.
>They got wounds nigga.
>>46406682
Much gratitude sir.
>>46406701
to be fair having those things had 3 wounds so needing to drop 2 more wounds on to it seems kind of excessive. that might be why they got wounds.
>>46406859
Agreed. Those T.A.G.s having the ability to get back up with a single after suffering 4 wounding hits would be a tad ridic. Just find it funny that Skiavoros, Unidrons, and Ikadrons all have STR, but these babies don't.
>>46407486
It better be a typo.
>>46407606
The profile spoiled on BOW says STR
>>46407606
Why? They are tough as nails already and immune to Shock. Why do they need an extra level of Unconscious? That makes it even scarier for the enemy since you can botch the first Engineer roll without a care and if you really need to spend the CP to reroll you have the option with it being STR. It's fair that way.
>>46407647
Compare the Xeodron to geckos now.
>>46407622
And here on this page, both say wound...
Any chance of fluff summaries?
>>46407669
It's not even fair. Both can make teams, the Xeodrons can make a Haris team and have Super Jump...
They don't need STR. Trust me.
>>46407606
If not, they'd better have a good fluff reason for it. They're missing autotool too, so there's obviously some big difference between the new Batroides and the old ones. It just hasn't been explained what that difference is.
>>46407745
They're T.A.G.s, they don't need G:Autotool. It wouldn't make sense.
They just can't be Lt. after a G:Mnemonica unit dies, which is fine by me.
>>46406701
Holy fuck Onyx are OP being to take a haris team of them.
>>46407833
It requires an Umbra Samaritan, which at least lowers the power of the link if you can gut the bastard.
It'll definitely be scary on the battlefield.
>>46407713
Now apply this stupid logic to Overdrons and Yanhous.
Better question is what the hell is the purpose of the Nexus Operative?
There is already based Unidrons. We have Ikadrons and the lovely Umbras.
Is CA in desperate need of a LI Line trooper that is completely CA based and not a REM?
>>46407970
They can hack and be Lt without costing billions of points like the Umbra. Their spitfire profile also gets nanoscreen, which can be useful.
So what does everyone think of the book?
I haven't really dove balls deep into it as much as I'd but all my impressions have been positive.
I love what they did with IS. Can't wait to bust out some of the new shit. Pheasant changes are great. He's still kind of expensive but at least he's bringing a lot of useful abilities as well as a good weapon now with the red fury.
Who do you guys think the biggest winners and losers are? I dont have enough experience with the other factions to form an opinion but I'm happy as a Yu Jing player.
>>46408065
I'm butthurt moiras didn't get reworked. But I guess Bakunin got some other cool stuff.
>>46407969
Not sure what you are getting at there, bub.
>>46408048
Eh. That doesn't mean much to me. I will take the better hacking device on a sturdier platform and pay the points. If I really wanted a cheap Hacker, just bring an E-Drone.
>>46408065
Aside from Onyx, I'm gonna say ISS is the biggest winner. We've been getting all sorts of good shit recently.
Almost everyone got some nice stuff, Hassassins aren't dogshit anymore, QK got some well-deserved toning down, NCA got new toys it didn't need because it's the pampered child of high command, and ASA is still meh but not as bad as it used to be. The only faction that really lost anything is QK.
>>46408223
>ASA is still meh but not as bad as it used to be.
Apparently ASA is getting a decent amount of attention this year.
>>46408141
Taskmasters, bro.
>>46408223
That new starter is the tits. Add in the Kanren and I'm definitely coming back to my roots.
I'll be focusing on my new Onyx Force and ISS.
>>46408253
The Pano jungle fighter sectorial.
>>46408253
That Pan Oceanian sectorial starting with A that no English speaker can seem to pronounce.
>>46408289
Ah, makes sense cause I never hear shit about them. It's either NCA or Military Orders.
>>46408255
Can't wait to get some chain rifles for these fuckers.
>>46408191
E-Drones can't shut down enemy hackers and can't be a lieutenant or decoy. They have their place, it's just a niche one. Except the standard combi loadout, that one's just shit.
Nexus do seem like an afterthought to me, but I could see use to them. What I really want to know is what they actually are species-wise.
>>46408319
Ah-con-tee-cement-o
>>46408379
I have a friend that's a diehard Pokémon fan so I've been recommending he try Tohaa to start out in Infinity. He'd like the other armies I'm sure, but Tohaa seemed like they would be fun for him. Will he be dissapointed if he tries to field a bunch of symbiote models?
He also seemed interested in the werewolves from Ariadna, but I play Ariadna so I'm trying to get him to do something else. His brother also plays Aleph with a lot of remotes so we'd like to avoid getting him into that. You guys know any good examples of fun ways to build around some less traditional units?
>>46408625
>Kuang Shi used self-destruct
>It's super effective!
>The foe's Penthesilea fainted
ISS is pretty good for remote spam, as is NCA. Tohaa are still probably your best bet, though. Surda symbiobeasts are pretty decent, Chaksa of all kinds are extremely useful, and Symbiobombs/mates provide some nice utility. He's going to need to field some actual lettuceheads too, though. The pokemon are meant to support the Tohaa, they're not the main force.
>>46408243
Yeah, but was he referring to the much needed update to models or also new profiles?
Shock army still feels lacking in more flavour wise units, they've added Greeks and generic PanO HI to it. Not really add ons I've been hoping for.
Regular Hacker is probably my favourite HS profile among the changes, LGL and fast pandas. That's really cool in my book.
Tried jamming in every wolf-like unit possible into this Ariadna list. It's for a friend I'm not a furry I swear. Are there any changes I should make?
>>46408972
Well, ASA got Orc troops with Haris, AVA5 Bagh-Mari, partially fixed Regulars (that fucking SWC on FO, tho), and also benefited from the buff to Montesa knights. They're a whole lot better than they were, but they could use some more dudes.
The Greeks need to back the fuck away from everybody else's sectorials. They already took over all of ALEPH, they don't need more attention. Hopefully they're just a temporary bandaid and ASA will get its own flamer auxbots and MSV2 in time.
>>46409047
Werewolves aren't furry unless you want to fuck them. As for the list, get more ARO units. You might want to expand into 2 combat groups and replace a vet kazak with a few cheaper dudes. You don't need 2 50 point HMGs.
Is there an archive or gallery of the new human sphere unit profiles?
So what's the deal with the Onyx Contact dudes?
Can't remember if anyones asked this.
But does the EVO hacking device static +3 to ph for AD troops stack with the Assisted Jump program?
Can we get the MO profiles? At least any with discernible changes. From what I've seen so far it looks like im in for a heaping pile of jealousy at all the stuff yujing is getting including that odd super jumping monster. ( my face when space knights will never compete in cc with space ninjas)
>>46409923
Dunno, Jerry. What about them perplexes you?
>>46409931
>Order sergeants get HRL and paramedic options, making their links better. There's also an auxbot+HRL
>Crusaders get a spitfire profile
>Magisters can't take an EXP CCW anymore, they're 1 point cheaper but also 1 point stupider
>Santiago Knights get nanopulsers, MA1, duo and a paramedic profile. 1 point cheaper
>Montesa Knights got a chain-colt, breaker pistol, assault, duo and a LRL profile, but lost a point of ARM and had their AP CCW replaced with shock. 1 point cheaper
>Sepulchre Knights downgraded to DA CCW and got a couple points more expensive, probably to compensate for the new holo rules
>Teutonics lost courage and cost the same, so they're even more shit than they were before
>Father-Knights got a duo profile, but it's got a BSG
>Hospitallers get a combi doctor
>De Fersen replaced his normal hacking device with an AHD, knights players mourn this loss
>Magisters can link with teutons, hospitallers and santas now
There's a few 1 point changes to CC values, but those aren't that important.
>>46403118
I keep buying shit for my Nomads... Now I need a Tsyklon too?
>>46410190
What's so important about them in the fluff that makes them displace the Shasvastii to the next book?
>>46410190
Wait, you can use Magisters to fill out knight links now? That is cool.
Kind of weird to see a lot of nerfs on knights, but that may be to make them cheaper. Also now looking forward to new sergeant kits.
You forgot to mention Black Friar though:
>MSV2, MULTI Sniper profile and a MULTI Rifle Biometric Visor 1 profile
By the way, what else has BMVs?
Does EVO HD grants +3PH for AD?
>>46410398
Yes. No word if it stacks with Coordinated Jump now.
>>46410315
>By the way, what else has BMVs?
Bao and a new Tohaa cheerleader. Maybe another unit or two that I've forgotten.
>>46410469
so what's the catch with the new tohaa sniper, ssl2, bmv 2, and msv 1 for 19 points? seems a bit too good
>>46410509
BS 11, Arm 0, it will die fast as a sniper.
