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>/btg/ does a TRO:
http://builtforwar.blog(not spam)spot.com/
>How do I do this Against the Bot thing?
http://pastebin.com/pE2f7TR5
>Overview of the major factions?
http://bg.battletech.com/universe/great-houses/
http://bg.battletech.com/universe/the-clans/
http://bg.battletech.com/universe/other-powers/
>How do I find out what BattleMechs a faction has?
http://masterunitlist.info/
>Map of /btg/ players (WIP):
https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=1116217&add=1
>BattleTech Introductory Info and PDFs
http://bg.battletech.com/?page_id=400
>Rookie guides
http://pastebin.com/HZvGKuGx
>Sarna.net - BattleTech Wiki
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Main_Page
>Megamek - computer version of BattleTech. Play with AI or other players
http://megamek.info/
Unit Designing Softwares
>SSW Mech Designer
http://www.solarisskunkwerks.com/
>MegaMek Lab
http://megameklab.sourceforge.net/
>BattleTech IRC
#battletech on irc.rizon.net
>PDF Folders
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/9q792hobnbpw3/Battletech
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/sdckg6j645z4j/Battletech
HAHA BUTTE HOLDIS BONING NORMAN
Huh. Is it me, or is the April Fool's display-scheme easier to read than the normal one?
>>46390612
No, you're some sort of escaped insane person
>>46390612
Definitely easier.
>>46390655
>>46391254
I don't mind the color and layout, but I hate the round mask that's put over image thumbnails with a fiery passion.
>>46390612
>>46391254
Fuck off and die, plebs
This is interesting and all but i've gotta ask. What the hell is up with threads these days? Is it just spring break or have we become slow as fuck?
>>46392080
Could be. Not a lot is happening right now, BT-wise, either.
>>46392098
Not really stopped us before.
>>46392080
Nobody responds to questions anymore, so we don't really get conversations going much these days
Why are cappie lights so sexy?
Where's the April Fools release?
>>46392286
Not a fan of the faction but the mechs are usually pretty awesome now thanks to Xin Patio.
>>46392257
Don't I know it. i've had questions ignored more often than not here.
>>46392345
probably won't get one this year.
or they could give us one in the dim hope that itll paper over the fact they haven't given us ilKhan for another week.
Do they learn English in the Combine or did Omi learn it specially for her trip to Outreach? Why did she even go?
http://webmshare.com/6BoaO
>>46392564
>Why did she even go?
So Victor could stick his dick in her
>>46392634
I wonder if Theodore didn't direct her to form a relationship with Victor in order to manipulate the FedCom.
>>46392683
Doubtful. That's the sort of thing you'd send a trained agent for, not a amateur. Also, pimping out one's own daughter to the heir of one's greatest foe would be extinction-level dishonorabru. Like, everyone you've ever talked to commits sepukku from the shame of having met you levels of DISHONORABU, so it's pretty unlikely for that reason alone
>>46392683
He wouldn't have ordered her to break off with Victor after asking him to go rescue Hohiro if he did...unless his plan the whole time was for Takashi to order him to let them talk again...
If Theodore didn't ask her to break off communications, then the grorious nippon steer direction Victor went in later would totally support that theory.
>>46392791
>Teddy C3
>honorable
He's not MY Coordinator!
>>46392830
>>46392791
raised to be Keeper of the House Honor, she's practically a trained agent
>>46392791
A master stroke in his ongoing political games with his father, of course!
>>46392851
Someone really needs to Dragon this up with an edit.
Black and red uniform, vibrokatana over the shoulder, Kurita crests instead of rising suns, etc.
>>46392345
Don't see one up on Drivethrurpg yet. Hope they have one, always been fun stuff.
>>46392564
Omi's the daughter of the Kanrei/Coordinator, so I presume she got the best education possible. Also, there are other languages spoken in the Combine: the Rasalhagians had their Swedenese (and I can't imagine what that would sound like, probably like a Swedish anime enthusiast), the Azami spoke Arabic, etc.
Also, the Ghost Regt colonel in the Camacho's Caballeros books mentioned having a good education, and her minions had no problem talking to the Caballeros, who presumably spoke English.
>>46392889
I don't have the necessary skillz, but here's something I've seen earlier.
>>46392564
Omi came to make hamburg steak for the Kurita men.
Why is the goose rifle so good
Why is your faction's signature weapon so garbage?
Have they done a physical print run of IntOps yet?
>>46393998
But the PPC isn't garbage. Quality DC manufacture too.
>>46394273
IO release date April 27th.
http://www.catalystgamelabs.com/2016/03/30/march-and-april-street-dates/
>>46394563
Sweet. My bookshelf is starting to strain tho...
3A here, life has me away from my computer at the moment. Friday's spoiler will be posted as soon as I get back to it.
What do you guys think of quad battle armor?
>>46394784
As a Lyran, I love it.
Anyone got TtS: Dunklewälderdunkleflüsseschattenwelt AKA Bob or CM: Mercenaries final yet?
On the topic of battle armor I'm playing around with designing a variant for the first time ever, and I have some questions.
For starters, does advanced standard armor have any advantage over regular standard armor aside from the 20% weight savings?
I just ask because it uses up a lot of slots and makes me question how useful it is.
>>46395008
Nobody cares about TTS: Meaningless Planets
>>46392546
It's not your questions being ignored, it's that nobody knows the answer. Or they suspect you of trolling.
>>46394784
Only really worth it for Heavy/Assault suits that can't make Anti-'Mech attacks any way and where you weren't really expecting speed.
But for those designs, pretty good.And now everyone knows who I really am :( Curse you, 4chan and your de-anonymising ways.
>>46395389
Nope, it just weighs less.
And welcome to BA creation, or as I call it "this is gonna be so awesome, wait, fuck, no I ran out of space"
>>46394784
Quad turrets are some awesome shit, and don't listen to the guy saying that medium quads suck. They seem to be custom-made for urban environments, where their larger ground MP and inability to jump or mount onto an omni are mitigated by the environment you are fighting in.
Just look at the Rott, with its 5 MP and dat 4 firedrake loadout.
>>46395669
>And welcome to BA creation, or as I call it "this is gonna be so awesome, wait, fuck, no I ran out of space"
I am feeling you on that one right now as I look at weapon mounts and armaments with regard to weight and slots.
Thoughts on armored gloves and basic manipulators, or the advantages of each? I was working on the "one battle claw, one other" premise when I started.
>>46395389
It's incredibly useful. 90 kg is enough to add that 10th point of armor and a LTAG/Firedrake/bigger gun.
If only the Longinus had gone 10 armor/LTAG over the OSSTM
>>46394661
And here's the spoiler for today.
>>46395008
Someone posted TtS:Bone-Norman last thread.
https://www.sendspace.com/file/x7mmg9
>>46395799
Armored gloves are sick on lights. Humping around an MPPR for no extra weight in addition to whatever else the suit carries is always a plus, and on a suit that small it's probably a significant chunk of your damage output.
Mediums and heavies generally want to go for basic manipulators or a battle claw to let them be all mechanized and shit, and just give up on carrying infantry support weapons by going with the APWM. Choosing between the two is basically just an aesthetic choice (and a measure of how much weight you have left over) unless you're playing the RPG. The specialized manipulator choices do offer small benefits with swarm damage or getting brushed off, but that generally won't come up, or it really won't matter when it does.
Assaults don't give a fuck about what hands they have at the CBT scale.
Well, wait. You could give it the mine clearance hands, I suppose.
>>46396149
I guess I was confused because looking through the TRO for 3058 some BA don't have Basic Manipulators or Armored Gloves listed, they just have "None" whether they have the APWM or not.
When assigning weapons, is the first magazine of shots included in the weapon weight (aside from missiles)?
>>46396272
Yeah, none is a legitimate choice for your manipulator. A lot of the early BA went with the battle claw/none split aping the Elemental.
>>46396272
Oh and you are correct. The first mag of every non-missile weapon is included in the weight.
>>46396374
>>46396404
Gotcha. Terminology threw me with the gloves but it makes sense.
To ape what >>46395669 said regarding space, while I've learned about BA construction my ultimate goal ended up having a really simple fix. I wanted a Longinus that could mount LRRs, MRRs, Plasma rifles, arm-mounted SRMs, etc. I went in doing it like I was building the BA from the bottom up to get a grasp of the basics in design, but in the ended all I had to do was drop the SRM backpack and assign the weapons slots accordingly.
Plus there's the bonus of not having to wait to jettison the SRMs before being able to jump.
Maybe I should call it the Shortginus variant.
>>46395008
Only today they made the final CM available. I'll post it later today
Thanks, appreciate it
>>46395862
Thanks Doc...
>>46396021
I remember that someone uploaded it, but did anyone give enough of a fuck to actually download it since then?
I mean, is it even possible to give a fuck at this point?
>>46397997
It's always possible to give a fuck. It takes work though.
>>46397126
We had the final CM for awhile. Hansen's Roughriders entry ftw.
>>46398626
Someone said on the OF that they further updated it today. Different file size and such to prove it.
>>46394551
Dirty Fire Mandrill
>>46395669
Jenner is better
Is anyone outside of the Hel Horses producing new Protomechs?
>>46400086
The Ravens are, too
>>46400136
>Ward
Oh shit, we Wolf now!
>No April Fools release
This is bullshit and I won't stand for it
>>46400344
No doubt they considering Touring the Stars: Bob to count.
>>46400380
This. Remember the last 2 XTROs released as jokes? They had more content than this official product...
In 3145 when they said that the current Falcon Khan is abusing a 15 year old, are they implying what I think they are?
How does one into Warship construction?
>>46400749
Yes.
Coleman gets off on rape incest and pedophilia, like all Capellans.
>>46400749
Super saphic sadistic sex? Hell yea dude.
>>46400749
no
the books clearly imply Malvina likes Cinthy as a pet. Malvinda gets extra bitchy and deadly at the impression of Cinthy being in danger.
The two have the same relationship these two in my picture: Hazen has a human pet that she treats like an animal yet better than everyone that ins't a warrior
>>46400749
Chomo shit? Yeah
>>46400863
>>46401082
>15
>pedo/chomo
Wut? Ameriburgers, stop imposing your stupid laws and morals on other people, especially fictional people.
>>46401177
Eurocuck pls go, battletech is for men.
Autistic ones, maybe, but still.
>>46401177
Yeah OK Abdul
>>46401233
>>46401258
Also from Clapistan m80s. Age of consent here is 16.
>>46401177
Ameriburger laws and morals are best laws and morals.
SO IT HAS BEEN, AND SO IT SHALL BE.
>>46400863
Mind pointing out where coleman did anything on the 3145 material that included this? Because I'm not seeing him in any of the credits.
Or is this another "Something I didn't like happened, IT MUST BE COLEMAN" shitpost?
>>46401295
So you don't even have the excuse of being from some subhuman shithole that thinks that shit is OK. That's even worse
>>46397997
>>46398386
I grabbed it, on the one hand HOLY FUCK A WORLD THAT ISN'T DEAD WOOHOO! On the other hand it's a world in the ass end of nowhere. The only notable events in its entire history were getting invaded by the Star League back in the day, then getting invaded by the green burds later on. TLDR, it's yet another waste of time / electrons. Would not buy, wonder if they actually make more money on sales than they paid for production.
I really don't give a shit about worlds unless it's a world like fucking Tharkad or Hesperus. Give me more era reports and combat manuals and XTROs.
>>46398626
no, CGL fucked up uploading the first one. The book still had the "Beta" written on its cover, for example.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/62qpwm49e3pjdgn/E-CAT35260_Combat_Manual_Mercenaries.pdf
anyway, here's the link
I've uploaded Bone Norman to MF too, just for the sake of archiving it. Thanks for downloading, Original Anon
>>46401363
>falling for it this hard
C'mon son
>>46401639
Grass on the field, play ball nigga. Laws may so no but biology is saying go Go GO. I mean, someone is getting these teens pregnant and everyone knows they want guys older than them.If you are going to bang teens, you need to hang out with them. Id give you a few days before you an hero'd to get away from their dumb bullshit. Which is why Queen Crazy Jade Turkey gets a pass, also this>>46401066
>>46401948
No, there was a release before this that removed Beta and was 300kb shorter than this one. I looked at the table of contents and saw some wording changes. Trying to see if I can find a program to compare the files.
>>46401935
XTRO: Regulans
This is a perfect idea. Nukes and Blazers.
>Ben Rome releases some (noot canon) short stories way better than TtS
>for free
https://benhrome.wordpress.com/2016/03/10/shred-of-honor-part-i/
https://benhrome.wordpress.com/2016/03/11/shred-of-honor-part-ii/
https://benhrome.wordpress.com/2016/03/14/shred-of-honor-part-iii/
https://benhrome.wordpress.com/2016/03/23/a-sons-requiem-part-i/
https://benhrome.wordpress.com/2016/03/30/a-sons-requiem-part-ii/
>>46402073
It looks like they've just done some minor formatting changes, changed Experience Level to Experience Rating, and added a table on page 86 to derive skill ratings from experience ratings.
neat shit 1
>>46403295
neat shit 2
>>46403323
I don't like it when mechs have guns that extend fucking 20 feet past their hand. How do the plan on using that hand in a productive way?
>see >>>/v/332836297
>first post is Coleman
>third is Johanna
>fourth is Blake
I sad, nigga ;_;
>>46403323
Well there goes the Thunderbolt. Someone retcon the Unseen for chrissakes.
>>46403383
I'll take Detachable Weapon Pods for 500, Alex.
>>46403605
The TDR-9AIS is not a battle armor.
If you're talking about handheld weapons, it doesn't have those either.
If you're talking about the jettisonable weapons quirk, it's never been given that.
>>46401948
>t
Thanks
Did the amount of destruction in the Clan Invasion even approach the amount caused by any single Succession War?
>>46403913
The clans blew up that one city and the blew up the LAM factory they found and that's it
They generally tried to keep stuff going and actively avoided civilian areas
>>46403913
Well, the fourth.
>>46403323
Artist has potential.
>>46404343
he made another
>>46404382
I'm curious, has anyone around here done FM/MercSup-style writeups for their own units?
>>46403571
Uh, they're actively doing that.
>>46404716
That warhammer needs to go on a diet.
>>46404716
I've only got two of the pics saved, though. Can someone post the rest of the shimseen?
>>46404770
Have you ever tried firing both the missiles and lasers on an archer?
Enjoy shutting down
>>46404809
No, but I'm not a wulf, so I don't have plot bullshit protecting me.
>>46404809
>two lasers in each arm
Who knows what the fuck loadout that is.
>>46404716
I think they mean the reseen, since that's a later thunderbolt.
>>46404908
Jaime... Wolf's? What with the color scheme and Wolf's Dragoons emblem.
>>46404936
I think he fucked up since that's fan art
>>46404936
Well I mean, I don't think jamie's has SRM 4s on it.
I think it's just a regular ARC-2W. 2 SRM racks, 2 med lasers, 2 LRM 20s. Dunno why it shows two lasers on each arm but only one set is firing anyway.
An alpha striking 2W hits 14 overheat if it didn't move that turn.
>>46404809
>DHS
>>46404679
nope, but I could do one based on one of my old units if anyone is actually interested
>>46405120
There is no archer variant that has DHS, SRM 4s, LRMs, and lasers. There's in fact only one variant with SRM4s, the ARC-2W, which happens to be the Wolf Dragoons standard archer and the archer variant that Jamie used for most of his career.
>>46404770
better res
I love Celestials
they are not the best
they can be used in only a short time period in-game
they are overpriced because of VDNI
but damn, they look like evil machines just like they should look
I hope the ilClan bring us more chances to use them
>>46405598
>I hope the ilClan bring us more chances to use them
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
WoB is DEAAAAAD because CGL is a bunch of faggots in love with the Clans
Help me out /btg/
Doing augmented lances, battalion is the end goal of 3 augmented lances and an auxiliary mechanized infantry platoon.
I have my light and Command lances figured, its my strike lance I'm having trouble with. Going g for end of succession wars tech, Lyranfag loyalty
WTH-1 Whitworth
2x CLNT-2-3T Clint
COM-2D Commando
What I'm trying to decide is do I want two Saladins? Two Saracens? Is it worth mixing vehicles? Are hovercrafts the best choice? I don't have much experience using vehicles so any tips or experience is appreciated
>>46406015
Are you going to be on the offensive or the defensive? If defending, go with MBTs like the manticore, the schreck, the patton, the bulldog. or maybe LRM carriers.
If you're on the offensive, go with pegasus or drillson hovertanks imo. Or even some warrior VTOLs so you can ignore terrain issues.
>>46406015
Augmented lances are Capellan.
Leaving that aside, because who cares, three augmented lances is not going to get you a battalion. You would have at most a company and a half, plus a platoon of infantry floating around.
Also, you seem to be doing an augmented lance with three mechs and two vees. Which is what the Caps should have been doing, but don't, so if that's how you're using it you may confuse people.
>>46406015
I'd say a hunter to go with the whitworth and a Pegasus or Plainsman to go with the other three; the big speed difference means that you're gonna have trouble keeping a unit like that together, so I'm thinking that the whitworth and Hunter hanging back to lob missiles, while the other three mechs and the hovertank go fast and flank
as a counterpoint, what about this lyran augmented lance>
>Nightstar
>Nightstar
>Fafnir
>Thunder Hawk
>alacorn
>alacorn
>>46406207
Looks like a great lance, unfortunately the lance's commanding officer has only piloted mechs for a month and will lead them all to fall down a ravine. Sadly, ability to host dinner parties doesn't make a commander.
>>46406236
>implying a true lyran officer would ever stoop so low as to command a mere lance
everybody knows that if you don't make it out of the Nagalring with at least a battalion command, you're never going anywhere at court
>>46406236
It's probably just a Hauptmann or something.
>>46406207
>Alacorns
>Not Gurties
bro
Behold, ladies, gentlemen and clanners!
This is possibly the best shit I've seen on the net all week!
http://brickcommander.com/index.htm
It's a repository for instructions to build all your favorite 'mechs!
I don't know about you, but I'm rather tempted to download that lego maker program and make myself a mech or two.
>>46406346
CA here. I have a few built, but a lot of the ones that aren't MW4 ones are pretty spindly.
>>46406343
I was seriously considering it, but on the other hand,fifteen gauss rifles in only six units
>>46406368
flimsy how? like "top heavy and will fall down and shatter into a gorrilian pieces if you look at it funny" bad?
>>46406346
You are some years late, there was even a link on the official site. But yeah, the content is amazing! I would love to build at least one of those mechs
>>46406443
The legs were a little flimsy on a fair few. I had to rebuild my penetrator twice over it.
>>46400838
I'd download a copy of AeroTech 2. It explains things a lot better than the current set of rulebooks. Nothing changed construction-wise though there are more options for weapons and equipment in TacOps now.
>>46406079
>>46406160
>>46406164
Thank you for the help, I'll admit to being new to the game and it looks like I've got more research to do. I hadn't taken overall speed into account when I was putting things together. I have TR: 3025, 3039 and 3050 to draw my information from (ohhhhh man I wish more tabletop games would publish supplements like this)
>>46406518
Is there a program to make them?
>>46405186
>only one Archer with SRM-4s
>laughinglyrans.hpg
The ARC-2S has SRM-4s.
>>46406558
Not to my knowledge. Heavy Metal Aero exists, but it hasn't been updated since 2006.
>>46406558
Not that's current or that even followed the actual rules from when it was.
Heavy Metal Pro, from everything I've seen when people have posted output design files from it, puts on a bunch of shit that's not needed and fucks up the tonnage calculations to boot, hence how laughably inaccurate TR 3057 and 3057R are.
>>46406346
oh lord, this brings me back to my childhood.
I remember I had turned a bunch of the old Arctic Explorer stuff into a "airbase" for all of my star wars stuff, and it was "guarded" by an Archer and locust copied from that site. it must have sat on top of my bookshelf for five year.
damn, you've reminded me that I really need to dig my lego out of storage
>>46406558
I think MegaMekLab makes AeroTech but I hear it's inaccurate as fuck. Never messed with it myself.
>>46406793
MML only does ASF afaik
can a 2/3 DropShip take off from a planet?
>>46406877
Depends on the planet's gravity.
>>46407078
wouldn't a ship with that thrust profile end up slingshotting a couple of times around a planet with higher grav before it builds up enough velocity to break free? I'm not a rocket scientist but I'm pretty sure that's how it works
>>46406877
I'm about 99% sure one could
>>46406877
>can a 2/3 DropShip take off from a planet?
By RAW? No.
How does drop transport work, in terms of how your unit is distributed across them?
It seems really hazardous to put your CO and XO on the same dropper, a company, or even a battalion, on one. And if you do all your support units on one, same deal.
In other words, how the fuck do people move around and deal with casualties? The universe doesn't seem equipped for it at all
>>46407183
>end up slingshotting a couple of times around a planet with higher grav before it builds up enough velocity to break free?
No, because if you can't generate even 1g of vertical thrust you can't even counter the force of gravity to start accelerating upwards.
>tfw helplessly watching Beemer driving people away from the community on the OF
Fucking hell, Moonsword needs some interpersonal skills bad.
>>46407335
OK.
having kept that in mind, here's the smallest "economically viable" DropShip that I could design
(the price in parenthesis is the price I calculated this thing would have cost under FASA's old system, included for fun)
Fun Bonus Fact: if purchased as a kit and assembled by the end-user, it costs approximately as much as 1.33 Urbanmechs
>>46407492
?
Doesn't 2 thrust = 1g acceleration?
>>46407952
Yeah, double checked stratops, 1 thrust = 0.5g
A 2/3 dropship gets 1.5g at max thrust. Total Warfare says you have to have at least 2 safe thrust to lift off.
>mfw I see Lorene Coleman on /u/
brb shipping Coleman/Kali Liao /u/
>>46408115
>sun-tzu/Kali liaocest
FUND IT
>>46408159
[Entire St.Ives Compact Screaming In Terror]
>>46408018
>Total Warfare says you have to have at least 2 safe thrust to lift off.
huh. in that case, here's the revised dirt cheap Dropper, now with a bit more cargo space and EVEN CHEAPER.
in kit form, it costs less than a Locust and only three grand more than an urbie. so sell your trashcan, sell your car, build a spaceship in your backyard.
actually, you know what? I kinda like this design, i think I'll write some fluff for it.
TTS BoB
http://www.mediafire.com/download/deu3jp8tbc5kh6b/E-CAT35SN206_BattleTech_Touring_the_Stars_Bob.pdf
And here is my old Stuff from Battletech
http://www.mediafire.com/download/deu3jp8tbc5kh6b/E-CAT35SN206_BattleTech_Touring_the_Stars_Bob.pdf
>>46408882
>Mission Director Thaddeus Oystein
do they have to self-insert?
>>46407539
As if, the moderators are totally perfect and never ever make mistakes.
But feel free to complain to Worktroll, he's in charge of handling that now.
low res viper
>>46409970
higher res but still potato quality.
Le Viper
>>46409970
>>46409994
>Dem tiny babby hands
Need a negative quirk that has the opposite effect as Battlefists.
>>46408955
>do they have to self-insert?
Eh, his name's not in the credits, so it's more like an in-joke about a former contributor. Notice how they mock Thad for speaking "a corrupted form of German"? The RL Oystein is Norwegian.
>>46407432
Bueller? Bueller?
>>46408882
They are becoming slightly better with more rules and monster stats. Still not worth the price, though.
Thanks, anon
>>46409994
Wondering which mechs they will release along the Viper. Can you imagine if they pick the Crossbow?
>>46409994
what is this I don't even
>>46396537
That sounds like a good fix for the Longinus.
>>46403970
100 million people died in the 4th war. I wonder how many died in the Clan invasion.
>>46405598
The two new ComStar mechs look like Celestials. Blakists in the works.
>>46411150
In the actual Clan war, probably not all that many. Bidding and Clan-style fighting would have kept the death figures pretty low.
After the Clan Invasion... well, the Jaguars were letting plagues and famines run rampant in their OZ, were razing villages on a daily basis, and generally turned the whole place into a shitshow of epic proportions. So for them the casualty figure would have been quite high.
Not much happened for the other Clans though.
>>46411150
Remember when the Jade Falcons kidnapped the entire population of Somerset? I wonder whatever happened to them.
bump
>>46408267
If you don't make it quickscell's entry into the DropShip field, I will be very disappointed
>>46414621
>Needs to be named the Quiklyft.
>>46404382
Nice legs.
>>46412447
And for Dracs the occupation probably represented an increase in standards of living lol
>>46413676
I think in canon, labor camps and most died.
Wasn't Adam's son named after his brother who died?
>>46409970
>>46409994
I actually like how this looks. Which is shocking considering I was certain not even Alex could save the Dragonfly.
>>46415076
Couldn't you possibly call it a liberation then?
You know, from a shitty, totalitarian government.
>>46415076
>>46416463
Actually no. The Jags turned the whole place into a glorified concentration camp. There's stuff in the Twilight of the Clans, Dragon Roars, and ToTC scenario pack talking about how completely fucked the planets the Dracs got back were and how it's going to take billions of C-Bills and several decades to reverse the damage and bring them up to where they were prior to the Invasion.
>>46394784
Well since discovering Battletech, I assume they're where Metal Gear got the idea for Crying Wolf.
I've heard good things about the Fenrir, but very little about the rest of them.
>>46415076
>>46416463
As bad as the Combine is, apparently Smoke Jaguaar and possibly Nova Cat were worse.
Make no mistake, all of the Successor Lords are glorified Dictators, but some of the Crusader Clans make them look tame by comparison.
I think they even imply in the lore that the Clans would have taken the Inner Sphere back to the days of the early Succession Wars and possibly the Amaris conflict in their bid to rebuild the second Star League (not explicitly, but I believe it's said they wouldn't hesitate to bring war to any world in the Inner Sphere that opposed their efforts).
>>46418732
>dirt farmers lorded over by totem 'Mechs/Protos making sure none of them escape, steal, or plot
Yeah, probably this.
>>46418762
>Protos
If I ever wanted anything to curb my thoughts of insurrection, seeing anything with a protomech's aesthetics would probably do it.
>>46418875
It's a shame everyone blames poor Doug for these abominations; it was the art director's fault.
>>46418921
Well to be honest, they kind of fit one of the concepts they were envisioned with.
Protomechs were (in part) designed as terror weapons also weren't they?
If so, it seems they fit the build.
I imagine few things are as terror inducing as seeing a swarm of Toads and Uglies (Protos) on the field.
>>46419000
That's true, and yes, they were designed that way, as psychological weapons. Something slightly larger than a Battle Armor sucking up PPC hits is terrifying already; make it look like a monster and the IS shits themselves. That's the idea, anyway. That and they were cheap, which was another reason certain Clans picked up on them and others didn't.
>>46419052
Protos also not as vulnerable to Artillery and Battle Armor hunting Mecha like the Kommodo are they?
I may be somewhat new to franchise (less than a month) but it seems like the Inner Sphere rapidly produced a slew of new weapons to deal with the Elemental threat by the time of the Clan Invasion's end.
>>46419152
>also not as
"meant aren't as".
>>46419152
The best way to deal with Protos is massed, accurate fire, because they are tough as hell compared to BA, faster than most BA, and still get the same penalty to shoot at them that BA confer (with the exception of Superheavies, I think. I'm not sure about that so don't quote me). So they can be a problem. They are rare because they require Aeropsace Phenotype pilots, drive you crazy, and aren't "real 'Mechs" so the Clans don't like them as much.
>>46419596
>and still get the same penalty to shoot at them that BA confer
Neg, you shoot at protos normally. They do, however, have a to-hit chart with two "near miss" entries, which cause your shots to miss them. Area effect weapons and some other stuff use the second chart, though, and Glider protos (which can only be made as superheavies, but not all superheavies have to be gliders) take a 1MP penalty on any near-miss result.
>>46419596
>drive you crazy
The explanation I got for that was slightly unsettling.
I heard it was something along the lines of the pilot coming to recognize the Proto as their true body.
>>46419949
>near miss
Oh, THAT's what it was. Thanks for the clarification, Anon. Knew it was something.
>>46420125
That's how I heard it too.
>>46420125
>>46420183
Yep, protomech pilots begin more and more to see themselves as the protomech, and hate being outside of it for extended periods. This is in addition to the general brain decay and crazyness that mental implants in BT gives.
what is the best ComStar unit and why is it Invader Galaxy
If you had to command a company-sized merc unit consisting entirely of one mech, which one would you choose?
>>46410442
No/Minimal Arms?
>>46420587
>>46420587
Can I cheat and use Omnimechs? Because if so I'll take a company of Men Shens. If not, Vindicators.
>>46420587
Thunderbolts
>>46420587
Helepolis. King of Battle, mang
>>46420587
Hunchback.
Endless Swayback variants.
>>46420587
Nightstar
>>46420587
I bid a star of Timber Wolves against your dezgra company.
>>46420587
Thunder Hawks
>>46420847
Let's go, trashborn
>>46420832
>>46420905
Fedcom assault babies detected.
>>46420587
Blackjack omnis.
>>46420587
Banshees. There's variants that do everything
Were any of the Inner Sphere Assault Mechs at the time of the Clan Invasion capable of standing up to the best of the Clan Assault Mechs?
>>46422297
Of course not you fucking mong
>>46422297
Look at http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Norse-Storm_Technologies_Incorporated
See all those assaults? Bring those. Bring two.
>>46422297
Only if piloted by Wolf's Dragoons or a Stackpole character.
#REKT
>>46422297
FedCom was building the DVS-2 Devastator in 3049. 3/5 with XL engine, near-max armour, 2 GRs with 2 tons of ammo each and 2 PPCs at long range.
It is somewhat more vulnerable than Clan assaults due to the IS XLFE but two headcappers and 50 damage without heat at 18 hexes is pretty much as good as it gets with IS tech until shit like the Stealth Pillager.
But you pretty much need a dual Gauss machine to match the Clan Assaults.
>>46422446
>Modify
Either you're a moderator, or you just screencapped your own post.
>>46422556
If he was a mod presumably he'd have the option to change Herb's post too. However he is on-line atm any way.
I thought Munnin was going on a holiday and wouldn't be around?
>>46407432
Welcome to BattleTech, if it isn't directly regarding giant robots it got shoved in merely as an afterthought. Hell, even part of the things related to the robots failed to get even one QC pass.
>>46422493
Devastator is pretty rocking. But how many IS mech designs were retconned into existing on the eve of the Clan Invasion? The inconsistency kind of bugs me when you look back at the original invasion era material.
>>46422651
The old books outright stated that the IS was throwing Succession Wars gear at the Clans until after the IlKhan was pasted, then they used the year of peace to shove whatever gear they could on to whatever chassis they could. With the tech retcon, I'd still say most of the border units would be crap tech, but the frontline units would be approaching 3050s gear distribution.
>>46422297
Anything you can strap two gausses to is workable if you can outnumber them by 50% at least. I think I've seen a stalker variant posted here with dualgauss, which seems like a good refit idea to me
>>46407543
But it's completely unarmed, in BT even the most chump-grade civilian dropships have at least a few MLs per arc to deal with space garbage and to annoy pirates. Put some little guns on it and refit it with a 2/3 engine for extra savings.
>>46422776
I did refit it with a 2/3 in >>46408267
I didn't include any weapons because of the 2700% factory premium, which means that a 50k weapon adds 1.4 million to the final price. it can be safely assumed that they'd be strapped on "aftermarket" by the end user
>>46422603
He got back today.
>>46422446
>that follow up from Weirdo.
C'mon Weirdo. I make up the same content every fucking play session, and I don't charge money for it. "Sourcebook: Planet no one fucking cares about" doesn't get asses in seats.
>>46422603
I'm back, but I didn't cap it.
>>46408882
>E-CAT35SN201 TtS Lone Star
>E-CAT35SN202 TtS Benet III
>E-CAT35SN203 TtS Bone-Norman
>...
>E-CAT35SN206 TtS Bob
motherfuckers, my OCD
>>46392634
>http://webmshare.com/6BoaO
its funny because im reading about this right now in a novel :3
What system should I use for a Battletech rpg? A Time Of War is shitty. Should I use one of the old systems?
>>46423966
MW 3E is probably the best IMO
>>46422708
The border units were actually fielding Devastators.
Also other upgraded machines.
Because fuck you, logic.
>>46423966
I like MechWarrior 2nd Edition but it doesn't have a lot of the new gear so you'll have to wing it.
guys
I made a TtS compilation, removing (almost) everything useless in the process. The entire pdf is very crude, but it is better than having each epub in different files. Maybe one day I'll make a real cover, create an index and write an intro
enjoy :)
http://www.mediafire.com/download/p7u9jvxir86862t/Touring_the_Stars_Compilation_%28ver._0.1%29.pdf
>>46422708
The FedCom's rigidly static attitude in the Clan Invasion is another point of confusion. Hanse should have used the year of peace to send like 200 mech regiments to the front and fuck the Falcon's garrison clusters up.
Instead they moved troops up and... just waited to be attacked singly, like villains in a kung-fu movie.
>>46425246
>like villains in a kung-fu movie
Well, the Successor States are the villains
>>46425246
Hey, what would you prefer to do? Run a war sensibly, or bang your incredibly hot wife until you have a heart attack? Especially knowing that Hanse looks like Kirk.
>>46425246
In the original continuity they were using the time to refit their regiments.
The War of 3039 tech retcon fucks that up since their units were already at the levels indicated in the novels *after* the War of Peace, and also throws out the upgrade speed of publications like the Field Manual series where upgrade rates should have been much higher.
It doesn't make any sense, don't even bother trying to make it.
I want to get into Battletech but the minis look so shitty. Are there proxys or better model or something?
>>46403709
fucking listen here nettie, before i smack your bitch mouth shut
>>46425749
>Are there proxys
yes, search for MWO minis
>or better model
yes, the new models usually are better looking than the old (2010 or earlier) minis
>or something?
yes, MWDA minis are more hit than miss. "b-b-but muh Atlas, muh Panther!" for each terrible model you have at least 2 good loking ones such as this repainted Mad Cat
If you don't mind N-Scale you can buy the clix minis for cheap
>>46425858
Where can I get them?
>>46408018
>>46407952
>>46407492
>>46407078
>>46406877
1.5g is a perfectly workable launch profile.
>>46425992
>MWO minis
ebay is the easiest
>new minis
IWM site or your FLGS
http://ironwindmetals.com/store/index.php?cPath=16_234
>MWDA minis
again, ebay
go for entire collections, most of the singles announced are rare or unique, thus more expensive
>>46426066
Kek.
3/5 is the minimum thrust profile to get off-planet. The Behemoth-Class is exclusively used in space because 2/3 isn't enough to exit atmosphere, you need 4 Thrust to do that.
Now, you could build a 2/3 DropShip and use it in atmosphere if you wanted to but it's kinda pointless. You only need another 6 per cent ish of your total mass to go up the extra notch and be able to leave atmosphere for extra flexibility.
>>46426075
Only problem with MWO for ebay is its just one australian selling like 5 or so models. good quality tho, I got the catapult, king crab, raven and shadow hawk from him. The awesome just doesnt look good with its skinny arms and I didnt feel like getting the catapult k2.
>>46423704
>>46392564Sauce? Tried reverse image search and got nothing useful.
Is it odd if one can agree with Romano Liao's reluctance, refusal and outright hostility at the idea of aiding the Federated Commonwealth in any form during the early years of the Clan Invasion?
>>46426939
No? Hanse literally fucked her realm over because "lol FedCom" all because he had such thick plot armor at the time that nobody could mess with him. I wish he had finished the job though; fuck Xin Sheng. Still, Max's plan was pretty stupid, but hell, honestly there is no point in being mad at anything that happens in the Lore. Not like I can control it. I just pick what I like, if anything, to play as, or be mercs or pirates or something if no main factions seem fun or good.
>12th Division (The Grizzly Grinders IV-Gamma)
>The insignia of the 12th Division shows a meat grinder from which a Ghost Bear is trying to escape
Best unit logo.
>>46407432
Only company sized units - and not even all company sized units - put the whole unit in a single DropShip. You don't really see units using Overlords until you hit regiment+ deployments, and even they rely mostly on Unions, plus a smattering of Leopards.
Not sure what you mean by dealing with casualties.
>>46420587
Crabs.
>>46405104
>>46404936
>>46404908
>>46405067
That's the Dragoons' Command Lance paint scheme, for sure. The 2W actually does carry paired SRM4's, but it drops the two rear ML's if Sarna is to be believed.
Might be a custom that drops armor for the extra lasers?
>>46428177
By casualties I mean my battalion CO and his XO eating it when their dropper gets shot down, or malfunctions or whatever, and there being no space to spread HQ elements through multiple droppers, if you even have one to begin with.
>>46428974
There's a reason combat droppers are heavily armored and gunned. There's also a reason many droppers have fighter bays.
>>46428974
>when their dropper gets shot down
by and large, people don't shoot dropships down, even when they have the chance.
also, it's standard practice to a): keep DropShips screened with assault ships and fighters and b): land in areas well away from AAA and enemy fighter screens so as to reduce the possibility of a shootdown, since DropShips are insanely valuable and irreplaceable; each costs more than a battalion to a regiment of mechs, and is as rare, maybe more so. easily the vast majority of the time, people would rather chance it to take one on the ground than shoot it down, even if it means fighting more mechs to do so. additionally, ASFs and AAA assets are pretty fuckin rare, so the vast majority of landings are unopposed anyhow.
plus, there's the LosTech factor; simply put, if you shoot down people's DropShips, they'll shoot down yours, and that'll mean basically the end of intersteller war for a good while, and nobody wants that, so nobody shoots at DropShips
>or malfunctions or whatever
also obscenely rare; if you can get your hands on a DropShip, you can afford the mechanics to keep it in top shape, and the parts are next to nothing; a full set of replacement parts, enough to rebuild a dropper from a empty shell is 2-3% of the cost of a new ship. also, Battletech units are built to *LAST*; you could leave a DropShip innawoods for 300 years, find it, refuel it and fly off, no maintenance necessary. shit's tough, man
>>46420587
Zeus or Atlas.
If you are scouting with Locusts, Commandos and/or any other form of PBI/BA, you are doing it wrong.
Hallo btg,
what are THE trooper mechs for each faction during the succ wars?
CC VND-1R, FS CN9-A, LC GRF-1N/S, DC PNT-9R, FWL HER-2M/S?
>>46430432
DRG-1N as an honorable mention for the DC.
>>46430432
that's about the size of it. the Trebuchet is probably more accurate for the FWL than the Hermes.but that's about it
as for the Periphery:
>TC: TDR-5S
>MOC: SHD-2H
>OA: MLN-1A
>>46430432
I'd replace the Cent with a Valkyrie, but yeah pretty much.
>>46430432
If by Trooper 'Mech you mean "Infantry/BA that are treated as 'Mechs by the other successor states", well... maybe the Commando for the Lyrans.
