How would modern armed forces fare against the Valar in trying to invade Valinor?
>>46381565
Not well.
>>46381593
Develop your hypothesis
>>46381565
Invade from where?
How would they reach Valinor?
>>46381626
Angels backed by an omnipotent god > pretty much anything
>>46381681
>backed by an omnipotent god
Who does literally three things in his entire existence.
The Numenoreans already had rocket launchers.
>>46381945
They didn't have airpower and long range missiles
An army of elves surfing on shields would bring down the aircraft with a hail of arrows then walk up the sides of the ships and arrow the sailors to death.
>>46382032
>Tolkien grave spinning intensifies
Can't find the straight road without the space shuttle program buddy
>>46381981
That doesn't really constitute an invasion though, more of a bombardment.
To actually invade you're gonna have to land there, and in that case you just get sunk by God like Ar Pharazon did.
>>46381936
One of those things was instagib an entire fleet attempting to do exactly what the OP scenario describes.
>>46382110
>>46381981
>Rockets or arrows "that pass with a noise like thunder to strike their targets many miles away"
>Yet it is said that even of those Númenóreans of old who had the straight vision there were some who did not comprehend this, and they were busy to contrive ships that should rise above the waters of the world and hold to the imagined seas. But they achieved only ships that would sail in the air of breath. And these ships, flying, came also to the lands of the new world, and to the east of the old world; and they reported that the world was round. Therefore many abandoned the Valar and put them out of their legends. But men of Middle-earth looked up with fear and wonder seeing the Númenóreans that descended out of the sky; and they took these mariners of the air to be gods, and some of the Númenóreans were content that this should be so."
>>46381981
They had zeppelins
>>46382195
What is this headcanon garbage? The world wasn't round yet during the reign of the numenorians
All the Valnar magic in the world wouldn't stop a 5.56 coming straight from the barrel of a sweet American M16.
>>46382247
Yeah, I noticed that too. I'm not sure, the page I remembered reading this on and just found again quotes it from the History of Middle Earth.
>>46382267
I mean, it probably could.
>>46382302
No, it really couldn't. Cite evidence, faggot.
>>46382297
The History of Middle-earth 9, The Drowning of Anadûnê, 338–9, specifically.
Based on an earlier draft of his notes, maybe.
>>46382247
The quote describes a time right after the fall of Númenor.
>>46382317
Prove evidence to the contrary
>>46382470
There is no evidence of magic ever stopping a bullet in real life or in the setting in question. Therefore we have no reason to assume it would.
>>46382669
Since we know magic can distort space, we therefore know it could also prevent being hit with a bullet.
>>46382739
Mere speculation
>>46382791
No, we know they can distort space, and we know space distortion would stop a bullet from hitting its target. Cold hard fact.
>implying the valar and their elf fuccbois could withstand this
>>46381565
It would go terribly. First, they wouldn't be able to find Valinor, since it isn't a real place and doesn't exist. On the other hand, that technically means that total genocide of the Valar is already completed, with no lives lost and no cost for the modern armed forces.
Existing is one hell of a perk for facing a fictional force.
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>>46382883
A crossbow could easily accomplish the same thing, or a regular bow too honestly that door looks flimsy as hell. You could punch through it.
At least pick something actually impressive.
>>46382961
A bolt or arrow could penetrate the door, sure. But not as rapid as that auto shotgun
