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post favorite guns
for me its anti mutiny guns
>teleports behind you
Where is your gun now?
Those barrels look like painted socket wrench extensions. That weapon would not fire straight, if it fired at all.
>>46375310
It clears a room
>>46375075
yesterday's thread should be in the archive
>>46375310
that's rifling
>>46375075
Here's a couple of odd guns that fit with yours
>>46375310
What, exactly, about that gun makes you think it's supposed to? It doesn't even have a barrel that points straight ahead.
>>46376328
>>46375132
You didn't think about this, did you?
Barrett M82A2, because Barrett's motto is "Why not?"
>>46376869
What about bolters?
>>46375075
I love the stopping power on this gun, and it's based on a carbine in real life that I just love.
Also dat blaster logistics. Unf.
>>46375334
so does a shotgun.
>>46375310
That's the point. You aim at the one guy in the crowd you don't want to shoot.
>>46376869
That looks fucking badass.
Also, aside from >>46377012, pic related is one of my favorite guns. And the M7 SOCOM from ODST. I just have so many to choose from.
>>46377207
>That looks fucking badass.
It kinda is. It's a bullpup 50 cal sniper rifle that can be fired standing up.
>>46377292
>stealing the glorious Republic of Iran's accomplishments
You should be ashamed infidel pigdog.
>>46377334
>Iran's accomplishments
33 years late with an added bipod, you little revolutionary guardsman you.
>>46377444
>>46377523
>>46376284
Extremely primitive rifling and not intended to assist the bullet as much as cut down on barrel fouling, but yet.
>>46377546
>>46377584
>>46376869
>Semi-automatic
Why?
>>46377607
>>46377622
Because why would you not want a semi-automatic? There's really not much reason, aside from maybe some reliability and extreme range accuracy, to not make something semi automatic.
>>46377622
RoF is more important in anti-material rifles then the accuracy gained by being a bolt action.
>>46377622
The question is: Why not full-auto?
>>46377622
Because the actual accuracy difference between a bolt-action and a well-made semi-automatic action is effectively non-existent. And if you can increase potential rate of fire and ease of use (since you don't need to change your stance or break your sight picture to cycle the action) at minimal loss of accuracy, then why the hell wouldn't you?
>>46377660
>>46377679
But what about the higher stopping power?
Soviet space magic.
>>46377736
You what? Bolt actions are only negligibly more powerful than a semi-automatic.
>>46377723
Aside from the recoil and force distribution problems?
Because of the fucking Hughes Amendment to the FOPA of 1986.
Also, I didn't expect to see /k/ in /tg/ today.
Here's my contribution. One gun that costs more than I make in a year.
>>46377777
Quints don't lie
>>46377740
actually kraut.
>>46377864
>Russian writing on the gun
>Kraut
Чтo?
>>46377056
y but we didn't have those during the seafarer age.
a captain has 2 of these, during a mutiny he fire 1, then the rest is to scared and shell shocked to keep going if he lifts the second.
>>46377864
That's the magic part.
For when you need two chances to hit something with 1/4 lb of lead in style.
>>46378552
>>46377893
German A Korobov's Guns.
Don't ask, at the time, that's all the research on his name/nationality I could find.
>>46378609
>>46378617
I can assure you, it's a sov weapon.
>>46378653
>>46376570
How about this?
>>46378671
>>46378810
>>46378933
What the hell is this?
>>46377734
Are you even remotely aware about the recoil of Barrett?
I don't think so
>>46378970
Looks like some faggot gussied up an AR to look like a laser rifle.
>>46377734
... because it's ANTI-MATERIAL rifle. You don't use it to stop advancing infantry, you use it against light-armoured vehicles and entrenched positions.
Ergo - there is no fucking need for high fire rate, while there is a dire need for precision.
>>46378970
An attempt to reduce the recoil of a .308 AR by adding a 15lb barrel shroud. Supposedly, it worked pretty well.
trenchgun is love
trenchgun is life
>>46379077
I am. And it is quite intense. It's up to the shooter not to squeeze the trigger beyond his means.
>>46379116
Bro this gun is using the same action as an already-existing anti-materiel rifle, they're just using modified furniture and receivers so that it can be more effectively fired standing up or crouching.
Does the older more traditional rifle-shaped barret tweak your autism as well, or is it just when the gun is designed to be held like an RPG?
And, again, even if you ignore the rate of fire: the accuracy difference is minimal, and in a semi-auto configuration you don't need to completely break your sight picture and move the weapon about to cycle it. Would you really hate to be the guy who missed his first shot, desperately need to take a second because you've been seen, and don't have time to take it because some autismo made it bolt-action when that wasn't necessary?
>>46379194
I'm glad it worked well for him, but that just seems really unnecessary. Adding more weight than the unmodified gun itself and having to lug that about? Might as well learn to use the gun properly.
Best when dual wielded and loaded with duplex rounds.
This is mine.
>>46379421
>Deagles
Please anon my heart can't take it
>>46379116
Your logic is backwards here. The targets of an anti-material rifle are large so there is less of a need for precision and you want a higher rate of fire to cause more damage - increasing repair time - and increase probability of hit on a vital subsystem.
>>46377554
if you're worried after fouling, you don't use a rifled barrel at all, and yes it's intended to make the bullet spin, that literally the only point of rifling
>>46379798
Enlighten me on why that's not a rifle. Is all the rifle-y gubbins aftermarket accessories?
Have a cool gun-axe in return. Really committed to that gun-axe idea.
>>46379241
I'd love to get my hands on a Norinco knock off of that. Unfortunately I am an unemployed disgraced university student surviving only on the kindness of my parents.
>>46380011
nah it's legally a rifle in the us, he's an idiot
>>46377056
Shotguns fire straight for the most part. Video games aren't real Anon.
>>46380049
Thought it was weird. You can usually spot the pistol in those pistol-turned-carbine rules-lawyering.
I'm bringing you another cool gun-axe, though. This one even looks remotely useful.
>>46380011
Gun grabbing lawmakers don't actually know how guns work, so they make legislation about largely aesthetic features of them because babeh killun' 'salt rifuls are ebil and black and dangerous.
So within days they just change how you hold the gun and its legal again.
>>46380095
it's a thing to get around stupid "assault weapon" laws that forbid things like pistol grips on rifles
>>46375310
>That weapon would not fire straight
Why would you shoot straight when you could shoot everywhere?
>>46379116
>>46379253
M82A2 guy here. The rifle was actually designed for shooting down helicopters. The main problem with it, was that helicopters are actually hard to hit, even with an accurate rifle. To down a helicopter you would actually need a higher rate of fire. So yeah. Still a lovely gun though.
>>46380146
>Gun grabbing lawmakers don't actually know how guns work
let's be clear: cuomo doesn't know how ANYTHING works. and i say this as a new york democrat
>>46382001
Can confirm.
>ban travel to NC because of muh transgender bathroom laws
>endorse travel to Cuba, which still actively tortures transgenders
>>46379241
You only need one bullet in any gun to survive a trench.
This beauty.
>>46379891
No, early rifling was intended to prevent fouling by giving the soot and gunk somewhere else to go besides in the way of the projectile. It didn't work and usually had the opposite effect, but that's why you see it on firearms from before conical bullets.
>>46382309
Don't try to bring logic into SJW arguments, they don't understand it.
>>46382672
that's the thing; cuomo's not an sjw- he just runs out half cocked schemes he thinks will earn him political points. at this point, there isn't a single voting block he hasn't managed to piss off yet
>>46382670
>early rifling was intended to prevent fouling by giving the soot and gunk somewhere else to go besides in the way of the projectile
if that was the case then the rifling wouldn't turn like it does
>>46382672
That's the problem, SJW are annoying, but have a twisted yet "solid" logic. This guy just picks what looks like will get him votes on the short term.
>>46382806
You seem to confuse early 19th century straight-grooves that shot balls with cloth wadding with proper mid-19th century rifling intended to spin a miniball.
>>46383045
Is... is this what a seizure feels like?
>>46383045
No fucking nips other than Kouta Hirano, Kenichi Sonada, Rei Hiroe, and Yu Aida should be allowed to depict firearms. This should be a law.
>>46377679
Materiel*
>>46375075
>favourite guns
Well, this is my Sako M92S, and she's my favourite.
>>46383137
Speaking of which, here's some Nippon pistols
>>46379241
I remember grandpa telling stories about the German butt-hurt Great grandpa caused with that.
>>46383263
>Sako
>That snow
Are you Finnish? Do you have that in case the Ruskies start getting ideas again?
>>46383286
And some Tibetan Musketeers from the 20th Centurey
>>46383306
And that long double thing behind them is not a bow. It's the bipod for a Tibetan musket.
>>46383298
>Are you Finnish?
Guilty as charged.
>Do you have that in case the Ruskies start getting ideas again?
I bought her mostly for fun, but I don't deny that she also is there in case someone tries something stupid. And Russians aren't known for being the brightest.
>>46383325
You know what you must do
>>46383045
>I extended my ammo capacity
>this makes it an automatic
What
>>46383137
I thought Hideo Kojima was a gun nut too.
>>46383434
>>46383423
Probably, but AFAIK he's not an mangaka.
MGS gets a pass though, if only for the scene in MGS3 when Snake spergs out on the 1911 Eva gives him.
>>46383325
Good man.
>>46377056
Shotguns don't work in real life the way they do in video games. Even with a sawed off barrel the pellets wouldn't spread enough to hit 4 targets at once unless you were standing quite a ways back, and at that point it loses a whole lot of its stopping power.
>>46377777
>>46377736
Being bolt action or semi automatic doesn't have anything to do with stopping power. That depends mostly on the cartridge. Firing pin strikes the primer, primer ignites the gun powder inside the case, the powder explodes and pushes the bullet out of the case and down the barrel. What the firing pin is attached to doesn't make a difference in terms of power.
>>46378933
>>46378970
Almost looks like pic related
>>46383306
Fun fact. When China uh liberated Tibet, this was basically what the Tibetian army looked like.
>>46383455
There are a few other scenes in MGS that show well enough. Like Old Snake looking over the M4 that Drevin gives him and Old Snake's sneak shot on Vamp. Though the gunplay in that entire game was ruined by nanomachines and "the system."
>>46382424
What are you talking about
I know there's a few fellow /k/ommandos who hang out on this board. You guys think if we show this thread to the rest of the guys on /k/ enough of the tripfaggots will have heart attacks that we could have a good board for a while?
Introduce hooligans and ruffians to my friend and start cracking skulls afterwards
>>46384057
Pfft.
You guys don't know the sheer amount of which our fellow /k/ommandos give no fucks.
We had a nigga make napalm shells for hunting squirrels.
>>46384119
...
go on.
>>46384119
Oh! I remember that one!
Yeah, he fucked up.
>>46384119
The autists (which include most of the tripfaggots) give fucks, and they would have seizures if they saw this thread.
>>46384186
>>46384119
Not the screencap, but still a note-worthy one.
>>46384186
This one.
Call me a tacticool faggot all you want, but I can't get over this gun. It's a modified M14 chassis. I've seen some pretty positive reviews of it online too, but I can't find any good sized/quality pictures without the stupid muzzlebreak the company that makes them also sells.
>>46384302
I'm super leery of aftermarket chassis, especially bullpup ones.
If I wanted to rock a modern 7.62 platform, I'd get a SCAR.
>>46384414
Likewise, which is the reason I never bought one while it was in stock. I've had an M14 for a while now.
Now I'm not totally sure if regret my decision or not, and it's kind of the one that got away firearm wise.
I've always wanted a SCAR as well, but they're just way too expensive. Plus, even more chance of getting found out as a tacticool kind of guy.
>>46375075
All guns can be anti mutiny guns
>>46385451
You just need enough of them.
>>46385584
>my pistolfu
why?
>>46384276
>>46384295
I... Wha... These dumb niggers are still alive? How? How can people fall off ladders and die instanetanoeously but these motherfuckers make chain-shotgun shells and dragon rounds in the fucking basement and they come back with enough fingers to bitch about it on /k/
G'damn. Fuck. Shit.
Now I want to know if I can do this out of the little coach gun I intend to buy.
>>46383292
The germans considered shotguns to be a warcrime and executed american soldiers captured with shotshells on them.
>>46385924
They would know all about war crimes wouldn't they
>>46385945
To be entirely technical the worst of the german and soviet stuff were peace crimes.
I'm not sure if this guy is double barreled... or something else.
>>46380049
Gun laws vary state to state. It might be a pistol in one state, but a rifle in another. It's all over the fucking place.
>>46377893
>>46377864
>>46378617
It's a TKB-022PM.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TKB-022PM
I'ts Soviet.
>>46386455
>Under 3kg
>525mm long with a 415mm barrel
Why didn't they make this?
>>46386121
It's a Szecsei Double Bolt, it has a double-stacked four-round magazine with each stack feeding into an independent breech and barrel that are worked by a twin-bolt system. This way you only need to pull back the bolt after every two shots, so with two bullets already in the breech, you can fire six times while only working the bolt thrice. Useful if you like double-tapping.
http://www.szecseidoubleboltrepeater.ca/about.html
>>46378223
Post more fancy as shit guns
>>46386619
It was made of Bakelite wasn't it? You could probably break it with your bare hands if you wanted.
>>46377292
>bullpup
>.50cal
>fire while standing
.... for what fucking purpose?
>>46386722
I just see it saying plastic. My AR has a lot of plastic bits and it holds up like a top.
>>46386752
helicopters apparently.
>>46386838
That still doesn't make sense.
>>46386861
U.S. Coast Guard uses high caliber rifles to disable the motors of small watercraft trying to make it to U.S. shores illegally. Typically the shooter is in a helicopter. Might be what this rifle was built for.
>>46386980
But the shooter shoots from a prone position in the helicopter in those scenarios.
>>46386752
It lets a shooter move and shoot with a .50 cal from a standing or crouching position. And with some practice, prone shouldn't be a problem either. It would be just like shooting an RPG, but with little care for backblast.
Honestly, less "why?" and more "why not?"
>>46387014
Also not always the case. There's footage of them using harnesses for the gun, treating it as a sort of hanging turret.
>>46387186
>>46387014
>>46386980
Can we just take a moment to appreciate Coast Guard snipers?
Hitting a specific area of the engine of a small watercraft, often times speed boats, in the ocean, from a fucking moving helicopter? Christ.
>>46387323
Probably some of the most skilled shooters out there. A shame they're not well known outside of their own communities.
>>46387385
mass accelerators a best.
have my gun album: http://imgur.com/a/qjVOt
>>46385841
On second thought, >>46387385 is an even worse butchery of my pistolfu. If I didn't know any better someone's trying to mess with me.
How about more magic guns? This is the only one I know of off hand.
>>46387608
most magic gun art is just steampunk shite, but theres some good stuff out there
>>46387608
I can think of when looking at that is that it's some kind of bad dragon product.
>>46379194
What is this? I feel oddly aroused
>>46383423
>tumbling bullets
He's also retarded.
>inb4 they exist
The Boss' gun is fucking stupid no matter what you try to use to justify it.
>>46387638
>you see Sergei, when you tape two gun together you make one gun and fire more bullet
>>46387779
I really don't think the patriot gun was meant to be taken seriously. Next you'll point out bandannas don't give infinite ammo.
>>46387975
It's a difference between a gameplay mechanic and a conscious design decision. They are meant to be taken 100% seriously and are fucking retarded.
>>46375075
Surprise motherfucker!
>>46384276
I find this one easier to read.
Then again, I'm almost always on here on my phone.
>>46384119
We also have a moron that fucked a cat.
And was found, by NAME, by another motherfucker from his childhood. And no, this dumbshit cannot buy guns.
>>46383137
>>46383094
>>46383382
If it makes you feel better it falls apart the instant its fired and the guy who actually owns the gun thinks its stupid as fuck.
>>46385847
....get an older, break action, single shot shotgun. They won't hurt as bad if you destroy it.
One alternative is to get a cheap as shit maverick 88 and use it, because those barrels are easy to replace.
>>46386694
As you wish.
>>46387658
Cell phone-looking .380 derringer.
Folded up it looks like a cell phone. Unfolded it has two shots before needing to be reloaded.
>>46385847
The power of being a scientist anon.
Scientists are basically wizards when they feel like it.
>>46388098
>>46387658
Forgot link
http://www.guns.com/2016/03/29/man-invents-cell-phone-gun-video/
>>46378617
'German' is a name.
>>46387658
scary new gun everyone's super scared of cuz OMFG ITS KAMMOOFLOZH GUN
>>46388098
>>46388128
I fucking love derringers. I have pic related, it takes .45 long colt (just slightly bigger than a .44 magnum) and .410 shotgun shells.
On that note, I have a deep fascination with tiny hand guns. Anybody got anymore tiny handguns?
>>46388226
Here's another tiny handgun I own, it cost me $180
Did I mention I fucking love tiny hand guns?
>>46388235
>>46388226
You know....
If the "size of the gun is compensation for (insert phallic reference)" thing is true, then you must have a dick that rivals Priapus himself.
Because you like tiny guns...is this tiny enough?
>http://www.guns.com/2013/08/17/the-petit-protector-the-ultimate-ring-pop/
>>46385847
Its really not hard if you have a basic understanding of chemistry, some pliers, a couple clean glasses, and can keep a workspace halfway tidy. Most of the fun stuff you can handload with is pre-made in one form or another. All you need to do is mix it together and shove it in a shell. Albeit stuff like ghetto dragon-breath rounds takes a little bit of work to get right - start small and work your way up with the chemical amounts till you're happy.
>>46388291
I'd like to agree with you, but I also have some big guns, like pic related. Desert Eagle 1911G, and then I've got my 1933 Mosin Nagant if you wanna bring rifles into it. I'm probably average...
You know what? Fuck it, we're anonymous. My dong is 13 inches soft.
>>46388291
>>46388329
Also forgot to thank you. I am now on a mission to find one of these ring guns. I need one.
>>46388329
>deagle 1911
Holy Jesus. I bet it costs as much as the deagle brand deagle in .50 ae.
Dude...as far as guns and preferences, I have a thing with gun guts. Gimme some tools and let me tinker on the daily and I'll be happy.just don't let me get carried away....I'll blow up a gun. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ix6qrbc5n8rgra0/AAAjIx6FPJnH5zUMj_wuolv-a?dl=0
>>46388342
No worries, dude.
I'm more of a /k/ guy who stumbled into /tg/ in the past month than anything else. I'd rather people learned cool shit than shitpost needlessly and perpetually.
Meanwhile, where are my manners? Here, have an extendo for your nugget
>>46388354
I paid $750 for that 1911. The one in .50ae was twice that price, plus when you get to that caliber you're paying $2-3 per bullet. .45acp isn't as cheap as .22 or 9mm but I just don't have the cash to throw into regularly shooting anything in .50 cal.
Cool shit in your dropbox by the way, anything special you're working on at the moment?
>>46388381
Ha, that's funny I'm kind of the reverse. I've been a fa/tg/uy for a long time now, mostly hanging out in the modeling and painting threads. I used to go shooting with my dad a lot when I was a little kid but then we moved and we kinda put the hobby aside for a long ass time. I just got back into it about a year ago and dragged him back with me which is when I started frequenting /k/. I used to think I spent waaay too much money on models and paints and all that but I've probably spent more on guns in the last 3 months than I have on models the entire time I've been into them.
>>46388438
I'm the same guy in both posts.
Anything new on the horizon? Well, I want to unfuck the fuckup of the AK build, which is literally the only thing I have that needs....a more practiced hand than I have. It was probably a lot of factors that lead to the KB of the test fire, so figuring that out won't be hard. But I still need to drill the new receiver, find a press for the barrel, etc. Other than that it's just parts to unfuck one or two other guns I have that need tweaks, mainly aesthetics. I might just buy a goddamn AK, pop the rivets, install a new 80% receiver, and call it a day.
And honestly, I had an interest in /tg/ shit for a loooong time. At one point I tried my hand at building/painting a few squads of ultramarines, which turned out badly in the paint department. Nobody wanted to play a game based on dice, so I was screwed there. And THEN, my parents didn't like the idea of magic in an imaginary setting, so after my first ever game of 3e I was effectively banned from it. Guns just became my hobby because it was safer for my fragile little Christian mother's mind. Or something.
More guns. The Vintorez is pictured. God...what a great gun it would be.
>>46388521
I love the shit out of that wood stock.
I'm mostly into handguns, the only rifles I own are a Ruger 10/22 my dad got me when I was 5 and that nugget I mentioned earlier. I'm looking to get an AR15 soon. I'd like to build one from scratch to pick out all my parts and make it how I like but it seems a little daunting, plus I hear the tools are really fuckin spendy as well. I've become a pretty good shot with my nugget and that's got me interested in long range shooting and I'd like my AR tailored to that specific need.
Also someday I'm gonna make something like pic related...
I got into the miniatures hobby specifically for painting. I own almost $1,000 in 40k minis alone and I've never played a single game. I've got a few hundred into Warmachine minis also and I've played a few games, but don't really have many people to play with. A few FLGSs near me with lots of players but nobody's ever available when I am, and the rest of the time it's a bunch of kids playing MTG.
>>46377801
Why does it load four bullets of three different kinds? Does the gun actually work? Does it fire all boolet at once?
>>46388693
>dat pistol
Won't lie, that is a sexy bitch. I have a...well, it isn't really a brand NAME 1911, but if you paint as well as I think you should be able to, I'd commission a paint job from you for it. Like pic related, but I have other ideas for the scheme.
If you want the AR, go piecemeal for the lower receiver. The parts are so easy to install you can literally do it with a long screwdriver and a pair of needlenose pliers. For the upper....get the upper in one main piece that comes mostly as you want it. If you don't want to spend a shitload on specialized tools that is. I built mine for ~500. Oddly enough, I find myself more drawn to long guns.
I'll be around if you have more questions.
>>46388730
It's called a vierling. Vier being the German word for four. No, it doesn't fire all at once, and iirc, it has a selector that allows you to fire a specific chamber. As for WHY it does that....well, because if you want one gun that does 3 calibers then here you go.
>>46384119
Giving no fucks, you say...
>>46388780
Much appreciated anon. It's muh bedtime now so if this thread is still alive tomorrow evening I'll be back.
Good talking to you too, always cool to meet someone with such varied hobbies.
>>46388872
QUINTS GET
>>46388880
Shush with your faggotry
>>46388880
k one more try with a cool fucking race gun
>>46388889
You were off by one.
And no matter how you slice it, that gun is still a 1911
>>46383757
Actually, in a srmiatomatic part of the energy is used to cycle the weapon, which means that this energy is not available to the bullet anymore.
The amount needed is minimal at best, but it is still correct that it reduces the energy.
>>46378617
> German
That's his first name, retard.
>>46379563
>They are large
Do you think that this rifle would take out a tank, or even an APC? No. It was built to shoot at lightly/unarmored vehicles/entrenched positions and not cost as much/ give away the shooters position like a missile does.
90% of a vehicle are not crucial parts to it's actual function, you have to hit the engine with quite the power, or take out the crew to disable a vehicle.
Considering how many gun spergs we have here:
What are the benefits/downsides of a Carbine over a Rifle? Portability/less restrictive when moving?
I'm pondering weapons (Mechanically there is no difference in the game but the character is likely a bit of a gun sperg to it would be nice to have stuff to sperg about.) for a game where the weapons tech is roughly late 1800/early 1900s.
The character in question is an elven ranger who likes to stay mobile and can't be sure to get a heap of distance on his enemies (That and general portability is keeping me away from something fluffwise more in the area of a marksman rifle)
>>46389045
Carbines are just shorter versions of rifles, usually under 20 inches. They were made for soldiers who needed to carry them around in smaller spaces (vehicle operators) and who wouldn't get as much use out of a longer gun because they didn't see as much long range combat.
So yeah I'd say portability and handling in exchange for I guess accuracy. If you're in a setting where bayonets are actually relevant you could also tie that in, as a bayoneted rifle would have a decent advantage over a bayoneted carbine.
>>46385945
Confirmed for never having read about canada's gruesome dark past. Seriously canada's history is like the stereotypical child growing up full of awkward moments during youth to its emo phase then its "i'm becoming an adult phase." Right down to its "okay so i'm a YOUNG adult and make mistakes" like now with trudeu.
>>46377293
>wheellock mace
I am fully torqued right now.
>>46389088
Thanks. Are Carbines often used by forces who are scouting or is the gain in accuracy more worth than the reduction in portability?
Sorry if I'm asking stupid questions. Guns are not remotely an area of expertise for me.
>>46379421
Are you retarded? Those are doublebarrel 1911 knockoffs. Look at the extended barrel on top and tell me this is a fucking deagle.
>>46380146
> the shoulder thing that goes up
>>46387363
> clip
> magazine
I am too tired to rage...
>>46389290
Me neither. I googled the difference between carbines and rifles and just told you what I got, so take all of this with that in mind. The definition of what makes a "carbine" apparently changed depending on the manufacturer, but it's generally come to be accepted as any "rifle" under 20 inches long.
I'd say it depends on the technological level of your setting. If you're using old single-shot muskets and shit, the extra ~2 feet on a full length rifle can mean the difference between landing an accurate shot at 100m, and an accurate shot at 300m.
If your scout is typically engaging guys at close-medium range a carbine will probably be just fine. If they're using modern or futuristic weaponry I don't think it would matter at all unless you're talking about extreme ranges of over 700m or something.
>>46389352
>...Yeah, if you frenchies could shoot a german and get a better gun, that'd be great.
I will admit, it did have a good psychological effect.
>>46389045
Carbines were originally developed for cavalry troops. Those cavalry troops were called carabiniers.
When you are riding a horse and you gotta muzzle load, you don't want a long barrel. Mainly because tjis means that you have to lower the stock of your rifle far too low to reach the muzzle effectively, which allows and lowly infantry to grab it and disarm/dismount you, which would be a deathsentence in most cases.
Carbines are still in use, mainly because a shortet barrel means better manouverability in tight spaces such as vehicles, and buildings, but also because you don't have to worry as much about your barrel bumping into shit and bending.
>>46389290
Nah. Unless its in thick brush you'd just give them normal shit. Its mostly for people that will perpetually be in tight area's. Example: the m1 rifle was standard issue but prior to WWII people were asking left and right for a smaller more convenient rifle for the likes of tank operators, radio crew, mortar crews, engineers, headquarter troops, signal crews and more since they were constantly in places indoorish or inside tight compact spaces like planes, tanks, or cars and having a long rifle was becoming an issue since it was heavy and caught on shit like machinery, chairs, brush, and people and while having sidearms like a m1911 or m1917 was great thats still underpowered or inaccurate compared to rifles and rifle calibers and carrying thompsons was inaccurate and damn heavy. This along with germans paraglide paratroop dropping into shit behind lines like support units and communication line area that would have no prior warning but needed an easy to carry always ready rifle made demand soar for the likes of a smaller but still rifle caliber snd usage gun. So they made a minime m1 and called it the m1 carbine even though it used entirely different parts and ammunition. they even made more variants like the m1a1 carbine that came with a metal folding stock for even more versatility though it was less enthusiastically received since you had to actually fold the stock out compared to the previous m1 carbine that came with a full wood stock ready to go.
Long windedness aside the accuracy from rifle to carbine, at least in this example, wasn't to different though there was less power behind each round so dropoff was an issue.
Tl:Dr for people constantly in tight spaces like indoor, on base, in the woods, and people far off the frontlines that still somehow get attacked cause germans are crafty fucks.
>>46389337
Technically its a clipazine.
>>46377864
Did you get confused by the fact that his name was German?
>>46389484
>>46389441
Thanks a lot for all this info.
So I'm hearing 'Dwarves would lean towards carbines' (They live perpetually in confined spaces) if I make some extrapolations based on fantasy races. Dropoff isn't as much of an issue for them but maneuverability would be.
Thanks a lot.
Techwise it's about 1890s to 1910s...ish. Like most fantasy settings, kinda fuzzy.
After this all, I'm looking at having my character go with Totally Not A Winchester Model 1895 (I googled guns from that time)
...mostly because Lever Action Rifles have always looked very cool to me but you rarely see them in too many systems that have guns. They always seem to jump from Musket to WWII.
>>46377056
You've never patterned a shotgun at room clearing distances have you.
>>46385841
10 full auto pistols will be fun very briefly (since he only has the 10 Rd mags in)
>>46389088
>accuracy
No. Shorter barrels are usually more mechanically accurate, which is also a reason why precision rifles cost an arseload. What you lose in the trade is velocity.
>>46391296
Velocity is obvious, but how come longer rifles are less accurate? Because slight imperfections in barrel straightness are magnified?
>>46391409
thats a big subject...
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/10/daniel-zimmerman/the-truth-about-barrel-length-muzzle-velocity-and-accuracy/
>>46391567
Mind you its a bit bigger than that aince theres about 30 other studies done by various people using entirely different methods that same roughly the same thing which is an issue since its similar to doing 1-2, 2+3, and 4+1 and getting 3 everytime, especially when the actual physicsl results are repeatable. Standing theory is its down to the variant shooters used though some used several to get their results.
>>46385924
Germany never went through with it because we responded that if they did we would execute an of their soldiers found with a pioneer's bayonet.
am I the only one that sees that 4chan changed skin?
What the fuck? How do I bring it back?
>>46386377
No those are NY legal ar15 rifles, those are not pistols in any state, the states do not make the differences about handgun/rifle/shotgun thats the feds.
>>46391948
What are you talking about, Terrance? It's always looked like that.
>>46391948
Your eyes must be full of mayo. Wait a day or so and they'll flush themselves.
>>46391926
Fun fact: we never went through with it but pretty much every other allied country did.
>>46377622
>bolt action bullpup
No thanks anon
>>46391967
This, however is a pistol.
Unless of course the upper receiver was part of a rifle before it was part of a pistol because that would make it always a rifle according to the BATFE, but it if it's a pistol it can be converted into a rifle and back to a pistol legally.
Basically the law isn't written to account for AR-15s so they AR-15 pistols are in a strange place legally.
>>46387385
What the hell is that thing? Also, apparently it doesn't seem to shoot anything. Some movie prop?
>>46392263
it appears to be an underslung grenade launcher converted into a gun
>>46392233
The "law" from the atf means shit, the putting a foregrip on a pistol makes it a abr/aow has been tossed out of court a couple times because they make shit up as they go.
>>46392263
It's clearly mostly C96 with a M4 stock stuck on the front.
No fucking idea what the shit on the bottom of the magazine is though, nor what the front pistol grip came from.
>>46392331
The law specifies vertical grips, a 45 degree grip is exempt.
Not that the ATF wouldn't try to claim it's an AOW, it just wouldn't stand up in court even more than if it had a vertical grip.
>>46392344
Actually it's full auto M712 (I seriously it's based on toy gun because that butchery is just horrible) without any barrel to shoot anything, but I was more interested to know why anyone would do something like that.
>>46392383
No as in the atf took people to court for putting a normal vertical grip on a pistol and the judge/jury said no thats not a SBR/AOW its still a pistol, and bubba got of free.
>>46392263
Of course its a fucking prop. Thats literally an adjustable stock glued to the front of a mauser (please be repro or bbshit pleasepleaseplase)
>>46392422
You know I assumed it was a c96 at a glance because that would have made more sense with no magazine.
>>46388106
>[s]scientist[/s]
You mean Engineer.
>>46392836
Nah engineers are like sorcerers.
They wish they were scientists and are inferior in everyway that matters.
>marengo
Napoleon uploaded his horse into his gun
The only thing better than an Enforceris two Enforcers
>>46375075
I know it's silly and over-the-top, I realize that its a flawed weapon concept.
but I'm still a sucker for it.
>>46392233
Hey now! It also instantly becomes an illegal short barrel rifle if you touch the 'sig arm brace' to your shoulder.
some of these designs belong in RPG's.
>>46383137
Okayado's surprisingly good about it, for someone whose main fare is monstergirls
>>46389209
What the hell are you babbling about.
>>46398513
Canada has commit about 3 times more warcrimes compared to nazi's or the japs.
>>46399237
Just because of their deployment of syrup based weaponry.
>>46399398
Nah. They literally didn't get a memo and went crazy. Not even joking.
Fun fact: hitler actually based his POW camps on canadian POW camps but thought it was too cruel so he "improved" his with luxuries like toilets, beds, shelter, walls for said shelter, food, water, air.
>>46388889
Is that a gun-dam?
Seems kinda anime is what im sayin.
>>46399617
don't forget showers and free train rides
>>46389209
What the fuck are you even talking about? I implied that Germany has committed war crimes. I didn't say shit about Canada.
>>46400725
He's compairing the interment camps for the asians in ww2 to the german ones. I don't know where he is pulling the other warcrimes from, his ass most likely.
>>46400321
Seems more Power Rangers to me
>>46400810
I'm just sayin, why did he reply to my post for that? If he just wanted to post a "fun fact" then whatever, but using "germans committed war crimes" as a jumping off platform for "hurr u dont no bout dem canucks" is pretty weak.
>>46391948
I see it. It's ugly as fuck.
>>46400902
The germans have Canada beaten in both quanity and quality of war crimes.
>>46400990
Maybe they have, maybe they haven't. I'm not talking about Canada at all. All I'm saying is that Germans have committed war crimes.
>>46401046
Thats not what germany and poland are saying. And if anybody would know its them.
>>46392168
But Misty, they already exist.
