>Character only has armor on one shoulder
jesus christ only retards think this is cool
>>46362873
>he doesn't think murmillones look bad ass
>>46362873
>heterochromia
>people who don't realize the point of having armor on one shoulder
>sure is nice protecting your non-dominant side without weighing down your weapon arm
It's practical, I only wear one knee pad when I go out to paintball and nerf wars since I always hold my gun one way (you know, main hand on the trigger). I imagine with melee weapon its the same thing so you always have the same shoulder facing the enemy.
>>46362873
>DMPC
>>46362873
>Player that makes the character uses the term "mary sue" mostly to describe things that they don't like
>>46362873
Is half-human/magical creature
>>46362994
Armor doesn't weigh you down that much.
The one good drow
>>46363114
It weighs you down more than no armour does.
Reflected mechanically in a lot of systems.
>>46362873
To be fair, that was historically a thing.
Mostly due to money issues.
>>46363118
I feel like this is such an archetypical Mary Sue that you don't really see it unironically anymore, correct me if I'm wrong.
>>46362873
you take that back
thanks, obama
If the character is good at something.
That's a big one. Unless your character is a red headed blind midget with hemophilia who falls out of bed every morning, he's a mary sue.
Playing as any kind of magic user. Magic only exists as a masturbatory wish-fulfilment tool and every game would be better with it removed.
>>46362972
Do I get a pass because I have heterochromia?
>>46362972
Definitely this. Also, streaks in the hair if it's not dyed or a sign of age.
>>46361316
>>46363148
>ironic Mary sue
>'don't worry I'm only pretending to be retarded'
>>46362873
>the Sith who uses his/her wangst powers for good
>>46363134
Taken to a retarded extent in a lot of systems too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMuNXWFPewg
>>46363187
But red hair is one of the signs of a Mary Sue
>>46363212
That too. Actually, any unnatural hair color obtained without dye in a non-anime-style setting.
>>46363236
are all gingers mary sues? is that why we hate them?
>>46362972
This is pretty much the truest post
>>46363118
I hate how often that happens, since I do like that sort of 'bad guy looking for redemption' approach to good drow, but it's just been so overplayed. When Viconia had a redemption possibility in BG2, it was cool as hell. Now though, it's just been used too damn much.
>>46363192
>>46363192
>>46363192
I play as a Wizard.
He wears armor, and has no bonuses for it.
He's the party Fighter. Sometimes when he casts a spell, it even works.
Currently, he's also the party tank and healer.
The only thing he's shit at is actually being a wizard.
>>46362972
Desu senpai
>>46363208
Giving your character heterochromia because you have heterochromia obviously means you're making a self-insert, which is critical mass levels of Suedom.
>>46363208
No, that just makes your character a self-insert if it has heterochromia.
>>46363309
>>46363312
Darn it, you're right. I was just curious if it was like N-word privileges.
>>46363148
New players do it. New players who aren't bitter and jaded by greentext about cliches on /tg/ all day.
>>46363340
>N-word
>roodypoos
>>46362873
>is an orphan and only surviving relative of a great hero/ruler/magic user
>>46362873
>rape-filled backstory
>character is beautiful but still shunned by others or just naturally "kind of a bitch"
Oh, and one that doesn't come up a lot:
>Chaotic alignment; "She don't play by other people's rules. She just is what she is."
I don't think I've ever seen someone play a LN mary sue. Nearly all of them were CG or CN, with a single NG (which was played as CG anyway).
>>46363355
Nobody calls it Nigger Privileges.
>>46362873
>has PTSD for shitty, tumblrina reason
>>46363355
He said "darn" as well.
Take note, he is a better human being than all of us.
Yet a larger faggot than we can comprehend.
>>46363395
>rape-filled backstory
Does this get a pass if it's not for sympathy/edge points, but rather because it's the player's fetish?
>>46363352
It's mostly done by players who like them for the aesthetic quality and nothing else.
>can I be a drow
>no drows are assholes
>but I'll be the one good one
If they get uppity about it just say the the whole one good drow thing reeks of racist undertones.
>>46363192
b8
Not even good b8
You already have more replies than your shitty b8 deserves, so all I can say is I hope you don't leave here with the impression you've done enough and that you don't need to improve going forwards.
>inb4 disappointingly ineffective damage control
>>46363425
No, that's the player's magical realm, and is the native plane of all mary sues
>>46363429
Fine, go play Caster Edition Game and spend all session jerking off over your literal god powers. Just don't invite me to watch.
>>46363357
Also jabronis
>>46363395
oh god some one should nuke all chaotic alignments off the face of the earth I swear that anti-establishment/outsmarting-the-stupid-authorities cliche needs to die
>>46363427
A E S T H E T I C D R O W
>>46363427
>the whole one good drow thing reeks of racist undertones
Down there we waz queans an sheeit.
>>46363510
They can be alright if they're like barbarians or something, but for the most part, yeah. I'm kind of tired of dick-ass thieves.
>>46363427
I once played a drow in a one-shot who was a low-born arrow fodder male. He was a soldier who saw an opening to the surface world, and decided he'd rather risk trying to make a life up there than stay in the Underdark and get killed as a soldier or spider sacrifice. He worked with the party as a mercenary. At one point in the game, the GM had a hag take the shape of a Drow priestess. I did what any Drow would do: immediately dropped to a knee and begged forgiveness. I got wailed on by the hag, but shit was fun.
Did I do good, anon?
>>46363565
Ok, yeah that's an exception, but is a Mary Sue barbarian even possible?
>>46363212
Head scars can make the hair grow back white.
>>46363576
roleplay/10
would get called a mary sue with by faggots on /tg/
>>46363624
Good point. I really meant more of the "natural streaked hair" a lot of mary sue characters have as opposed to actual streaks from natural causes like aging or injury. Shit like Yugi in Yugioh having literally four different kinds of color in his hair, including metallic gold, and they're all apparently natural. That shit's retarded.
>>46363632
Thanks anon. It means a lot.
>>46363576
That's some dank roleplaying, anon.
Would party with and try to convert on my paladin/10
>>46363706
To be fair unnatural hair colors and impossible hairstyles are kind of staples of anime-style art. But yeah, Yugi is ridiculous even for anime.
>>46363212
Does this mean Susan Sto-Helit is a Mary Sue?
>>46363621
'Educated ' barbarians. Conan gets a pass but hearing it from anyone else is lame
World weary, folk philosopher barbarians who consider the futility of existence before lopping dude's heads off own however
>the character publicly expresses progressive political opinions that would never be taken seriously in the pseudo-medieval setting of the game, and wouldn't make sense for him to even think since it's a total 180 from the values of his native culture with no explanation
>>46363942
>Rosencratz And Guildenstern Are Ripped
>>46363960
Problem with this is you're assuming your fantasy world has the same social dynamic as ours did with completely different peoples, religions and physics
Unless you are playing a historical setting than yeah that guys a faggot. Or needs to cite historical precedent
>>46362873
> Talking shit about a legitimate armour style
Mate get off your high horse. Why so rude to all the less well off soldiers of fortune and hedge knights who don't have a whole country's gdp to buy a set of full plate with? Why you gotta be like that?
>>46364021
i'd watch that for a dollar
>>46364043
wtf does physics have to do with dudes fucking each other?
>>46363942
>World weary, folk philosopher barbarian
My 2nd favorite thing to play in any game, honestly. Only thing better is a semi-Don Quixote Paladin that strives for the impossible, but earns respect from the community for striving for the impossible.
>>46364079
You can magic away aids for one.
No abrahamics god saying it's bad for two
>>46364043
Well some cultures did not mind homosexual acts. For instance I think Julius Caesar or some other roman guy, wrote that the celts were fine with it.
>>46364122
Romans themselves were fine with it as long as you were giving the shaft and not taking it. Masculine dominant double standard, as long as you were doing the fucking that's alpha as fuck lmao. Taking the dick or sucking it is the 2nd most homo thing a dude can do though
The most homo? Eating a woman's pussy.
>>46364122
The Romans themselves were fine with it for the most part as long as you didn't talk about it.
>>46364084
Don Quixote was a 100% fuck-up.
It's another attractive teenage girl. Especially if the character art is anime.
>>46363960
Unless you're playing a historical setting, it's probably easier to just make your fantasy setting just progressive enough to keep any quests for social justice from occurring. Like some people may not be too fond of of gay people, but they ain't dumb enough to piss off the god(ess) of love, who controls or at the very least has a say in nearly every church that does weddings on the plane, and has paladins and clerics that can basically fire beams powered by love and everyone knows that love is the most potent power in fiction.
>>46364192
Romans had a view similar to the Greeks. It was okay to fuck cute little fuccbois.
So long as you were the pitcher, as it were.
Having homosexual relations with older men, was looked down upon. Unless you were one of the cute fuccbois.
>>46364106
That's not even the important reason, if we're talking about gay marriage specifically.
The concept of sexual orientation as this innate immutable aspect of your identity that dictates your actions, as opposed to a temporary description of your actions, is less than 200 years old. I'm not saying it's untrue, but in ancient Greece for instance there were rules about gay sex, who you could fuck and how, and most of the men who did it weren't actually gay.
So it's not unusual for a fantasy setting drawing inspiration from history to have no concept of "that guy is gay", he just does gay things. Asking for gay marriage in such a culture wouldn't be seen as evil, it would be seen as absurd, like you're putting random words together due to brain damage!
>>46364327
>cute little fuccbois
They are also Mary Sues
>>46364418
Fair enough, that's actually an interesting perspective. That being said: belt of gender change.
>>46363501
I don't think you'd get invited to a game either way.
>>46364166
>tfw your fetish makes you a mega faggot by roman standards
>>46364901
If you aren't gorging yourself on food and then vomiting, watching people get mauled to death by wild animals for fun, and eating lead, then you're probably a mega faggot by roman standards.
>>46364901
>by most standards
You mean
>>46365021
>its true
Whoda thunk it?
>>46363257
yes
>>46365022
>if you like cocks you're a faggot
>but if you like vaginas too much you're also a faggot
How do I prevent myself from becoming a faggot?
>>46365221
Buttsex
>>46362873
I'll agree to this if it's a fully decked out character that purposefully forgoes wearing armor. However, I do love the aesthetic of a scrappy young fighter who has little more than a few copper to his name that has to make due with a random assortment of asymmetric misized bits of metal strapped to himself that he's scavenged from the handful of fights he's witnessed.
>>46365221
Sex for the purpose of procreation.
>>46362972
I actually really love characters that are blind in 1 eye. Last time I played one it was in a system without defined penalties for partial blindness.
>>46365221
Eunuch master race.
The character consistently takes the highest possible moral stance even though plenty of motivating factors exist to steer them elsewhere.
>>46365379
>not making a fully blind characterTo be fair, that is my fetish
>>46365221
Become a slut for both it'll cancel out.
>>46365400
fuck off that is literally what I'm required to do in order to keep my paladin from falling
>>46365221
Fuck a guy in the ass. Its the ultimate form of establishing male dominance because you're dominating another male and not some weak female which you're expected to dominate in the first place.
>>46365400
But that's not Mary Sue
It's only Mary Sue if everyone still sucks his/her dick for going against the party
>compromising
>ever
pick 1
>>46365221
You can't. Everyone is a faggot.
It's science.
>>46365405
>totally blind
>has blind-fighting perk
>was a fighter anyway so he didn't actually need vision for anything else
Meh
>>46365485
Science is pretty gay desu
>>46365485
What did you mean by this?
>>46362873
To start, not all adventurers can afford a suit of plate.
If I was a low-wage sword and shield adventurer, I'd definitely want more than just a sleeve of chain on my swinging arm, because that's likely to fly up when I rear back for a slashing maneuver. All you need besides the arm plating is the gambeson or padding underneath and a gorget to attach the pauldron or spaulder to. I'd probably also invest in a gorget that has a bevor attached to it for added cheap neck protection.
You're a faggot for thinking this is Mary Sue. the only time it would be is if the player in question accentuates this style without having accurate knowledge on WHY he's wearing it like that, and it's your job to correct him if he's doing it wrong. For example, if he was toting in on his guarding arm to look cool, tell him he's wasting protection because his shield is supposed to do the protecting for that side. If your character is a savvy fighter, save his novice ass from getting his swinging arm lopped off by an ogrilon and teach him instead of OOC calling him a Mary Sue.
>>46365503
Ron White explains it best:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKB7vAFTdA8
>>46365510
Mary Sue faggot detected
>>46365608
buttmad novice with missing arm detected.
>>46363621
Bad replications of Conan, for example.
>>46362873
if you're looking to trim weight it's fine. It has plenty of historical precedent
>>46362972
I've seen it pulled off just fine
>>46363118
Irredeemable
>>46363099
Depends entirely on which magical creature
>>46363099
>father was Displacer Beast, mother was one hell of a deviant
>>46365379
My previous character was blind in one eye from being struck on the side of the face by a bully when she was still young.
I'm not very good at drawing convincing scars but I couldn't find any frame of reference for wounds that happened 15 years ago.
>>46362873
>wizard that is wearing armor with no ill effects
>>46366917
cute. cute!
>>46364218
He pursued the impossible dream; the fuck have you done recently?
>>46363790
Poorly mimicked fanfic Susan would be 100% grade Sue.
The only correct answer is when the character is an obvious vehicle of wish fulfillment who is in no way designed to work in harmony with other characters and share the spotlight. They're not a rounded character, they're an idealized fantasy - and it's important to note that this metric is relative to their setting.
A mary sue is not a trait, or a collection of traits. None of these trats guarantees that a character is a mary sue, and there is no trait that guarantees a character isn't one. Instead, the traits a mary sue has are a direct result of their player's personal tastes.
A mary sue is an expression of an attitude. It's a character who is nothing more than their player saying "It's all about me." It's about their impact on the setting, not which traits they have. What traits they have will vary based on their player's personal tastes and also the setting.
Mary sues are about standing out. They're about subverting the natural flow of attention around the table so they're always the one in scene. They're about getting attention for the player and what they value, or think, or want to do.
>>46363011
>doesn't know how to take weak side barricades
>>46365405
Man I've played two blind characters before and lemme tell you, that shit is a roleplaying goldmine up to the bitter end. I'm debating playing a third.
>>46362972
I almost had a character join the group with this. I figured occasionally, as DM, NPC's would be talking to her and start swaying their look from eye to eye and start forgetting what they were talking about, only to bluntly ask what the fuck was going on with the player's eyes. It wouldn't happen all the time, but enough to remind her.
She never was able to make it, though.
>>46369021
Well then you have to ask if a character can even be mary sue in the average TTRPG. The GM controls the world, and can do things to shut down the mary sue, where in most cases where the person in charge of a mary sue controls the world, the world bends to the will of the sue as needed.
I feel as if your description of a mary sue is the sort of mistaken ideas that a first-time player might come to the table with. He won't yet understand how the game is a social activity, and think along the lines of single player videogames where it was all about him. Being inexperienced, he'll just make a character strongly based off of himself, and try to be the leader (because why would he let someone else be the leader in his adventure)?
>>46366917
Scars tend to be more on the white side then red.
>>46365420
And your character has some form of motivation to make that choice despite inner conflict.
I was thinking of shit like in Force Awakens where Rey decides to not sell a droid for basically a month's supply of food when she has known nothing but to fend for herself on a shithole planet that doesn't careif she lives or dies.
>>46371416
Maybe she has moral qualms - it's obvious the droid would be taken apart for scrap and salvagable parts. In that wasteland, a working droid would be beyond valuable, let alone the info it's carrying that Rey doesn't know about.
I think the movie had some plot holes and problems, but that at least is explainable.
>>46362873
>character doesn't wear a helmet
>>46362873
K then.
Though I still want my shield arm tougher than my sword arm.
>>46363412
Idk anon, I think a former soldier who got too fucked up could be interesting, if not just edgy.
Probably just edgy though.
>>46363222
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm11yAXeegg
>>46362873
Oh no!
>>46372079
Eh, gladiators don't count, as their armor was for show rather than function.
However, this proves that even the Romans thought the one-shoulder was cool.
>>46363118
What's the verdict on "evil drow who thinks life on the surface is easier than dealing with the backstabbing in the Underdark and pretends to be good?"
>Character shares the name of the person who created Him/Her
>>46372617
Gladiatoral combat was the anime of the Roman era
Think about it
>Over the top action
>Arms and armor that would be impractical otherwise
>Becoming a gladiator was a mark of shame that people wore gladly
>>46372881
>Player has a generic name
>Character has a generic name
I'd let it pass
>>46373232
No it was the pro wrestling of its time. 99% of it were staged fights. Most the real blood sport was during the half times and intermissions with prisoners killing one another wholesale or getting killed by animals.
![[Exiled-Destiny]_Rune_Soldier_Ep12_(FC4E89F7).mkv_20141005_014439.437.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/a1VHHAo.jpg "[Exiled-Destiny]_Rune_Soldier_Ep12_(FC4E89F7).mkv_20141005_014439.437.jpg")
>>46363301
>>46363402
It's called "Black Privilege".
>>46362972
Fuck you my characters a Bowie-inspired tribue
>>46363790
Yes.
>>46373232
If it was a generic character I'd be fine. But when it's the character who also happens to be the chosen one I call shenanigans
>>46363942
Conan is pretty much as un-barbarian as it gets.
>knew a shitton of languages, including dead ones
>ran away from fights a lot
>happily used magic when possible, got help from witches and wizards
>used actual tactics and stealth
>>46373655
>'educated barbarians'
apparently plebs on /tg/ can't into warrior poets
>"Oh he's strategically sound!"
>"Oh he actually learns shit when he travels all over the world?"
>"Oh he utilizes other's abilities to accomplish his aims!"
>"Oh he sneaks around when he knows it's prudent!"
>"he's not a barbarian because barbarians are X personality type, not a class/profession/lifestyle"
>>46373717
The archetypical barbarian is an illiterate primitive too dumb to learn, who knows only how to hit things with a stick in one way.
>>46373290
>implying wrestling isn't live action anime
>>46373655
>>46373717
>>46373744
ACKSHULLY Barbarian is a greek word meaning non greek, as far as I know, Greece wasn't around in the hyborian age
:^)
If your character isn't a middle-agedd white man with short brown hair, brown eyes, brown clothes, no strong attachment to anything and doesn't go so much adventuring but rather mercenary for purely self-interested reasons, you're a /tg/ Mary-Sue.
Also, a fedora, a weeb, an edgelord, a SJW and a munchkin, all deep in the magical realm.
>>46370798
>can do things to shut down the mary sue
Typically he doesn't.
>>46362873
But anon, it makes sense for archers to only have one pauldron.
>>46370798
If a Mary Sue - or ANY player or character - is ruining the game, the GM is partially to blame for having allowed it.
>>46373947
Butthurt much? /v/ is over there
>Middle Aged
'round these parts you see all types. Child prodigies are often frowned upon but believable. Starting a level 1 D&D character? It's highly possible they'll be pretty young, though. And then Old Man Henderson is a /tg/ favorite
>White
Fuck, man, you think that shit matters when we've got elves and dwarves and space mutants?
>Male
Crossplaying can get awkward as hell real fast in the hands of an unskilled gamer who will play up gender as an issue. Since we're all elegan/tg/entelmen here, this means you'll see more male PCs as some of us are uncomfortable rolling up females and some more want to over think it. A few are period autists, and a few are sexists like tumblrinas such as yourself wish to believe all are.
>Muh Phenotype
I have never, not even once, seen anyone complain about an RPG character with a phenotype inside standard canon. Anime hair and heterochromia, sure, but nothing core human.
>Doesn't care about anything anymore
Do you even /tg/? Murderhobos aren't sues, but they're pretty looked down on.
>TLDR
Your test came back negative for sue, fedora, weeb, edgelord, munchkin, and magical realm but I'm afraid the SJW is terminal.
Threadly reminder:
It isn't a Sue if it isn't an author insert.
>>46373655
Conan, like any self-respecting Barbarian, took two levels of fighter first. ;)
>>46374662
Do you have a better term for "Uber attention whore special snowflake that happens to not be more of a self insert than other PCs"?
>>46373947
Why do i want to play with a character that has been done a million times before?
>>46374698
They're called "snowflakes."
It's just as easy to get these things right as it is to get them wrong.
Sue still doesn't apply because no player has authorial control.
>>46374836
Snowflake isn't nearly derogatory enough for some of these characters.
It's a start though.
>>46362873
I'm falling for the bait, but... When oh when will people stop spouting this buzzword.
>>46373471
>Bowie had heterochromia
>>46362994
This anon gets it.
>>46365221
what if you like futa?
Are you a double-faggot?
>>46374960
Triple.
>>46374999
I prefer futa without balls, does this help?
>>46371882
They specified a shitty tumblrina reason, though, so less "ran on front lines and saw best friends and family men slaughtered for a king and ideals they didn't believe in but couldn't afford to disobey" and more "someone called them fat in public"
>>46373947
Isn't that cherry picking? I know they're leaving out a bunch of women and blondes.
>>46374956
No he doesn't and neither do you. >>46363222
>>46375025
It looks fucking weird without the balls. If you're gonna be a /d/eviant do it right.
>>46375296
somebody should make a montage like that, only starring the female or weird /v/ protagonists. Thrall, Alexandra Roivas, The Nameless One, and so on.
>>46375373
holy shit anon balls are digusting
real men prefer the dick and the pussy
balls are for faggots.
>>46363192
> roleplay
>>46362972
Do I get a pass if my character is supposed to be an Xavier knockoff?
>>46375710
You get a pass on most things if there's a good reason.
If we're on topic, we're talking about warning signs. No one trait about a character makes that character a sue automatically, but there are some flags that indicate a sue might be underneath.
>>46363355
>angry at someone not saying nigger
Welcome to the tertiary boards. Please leave your /b/ at the front door.
>>46373744
Where did you get that stereotype from?
>>46375777
Thought so but figured I'd ask anyway.
To anyone who watches the show, would Xavier be a decent INT, low WIS kinda character since he spews shit advice but eventually solves whatever problem he caused? Also high CON because of all those beatdowns. In fact, I mostly hope to use him as a distraction in battle than a fighter or caster.
Besides he'd probably be some sort of lame diviner anyway.
>>46376101
Watched*
RIP in piece
>>46375832
It's a D&D thing. In 3e (Less so/not really in 5th, dunno about 4th because I recognized it for the shitstorm it was before buying any books), "Barbarian" is basically Hulk as a character class: Big, Green (Half-orc iconic at least), super-stronger when angry, and incapable of comprehending complex diction.
>>46363099
>Half-orc is mary sue
>Half-elf is mary sue
So did mary sue lost all meaning already?
>>46363118
You know there's a CG drow good, right? you know the "always evil" just means 95% or so of that race is actually evil, there's a 5% that can be of other alignments
>>46375548
They're one in the same m8. Can't have one without the other. Next you're going to say they don't look mutilated.
>Wants his martial to be as relevant as casters
>>46373947
>Painkiller
>brown hair
Nigga please
>>46362873
>Level 1 characters with a laundary list of exemplary achievements
This also crosses over with first-time characters for a lot of people, though.
>Lawful Good
>>46376311
>Chaotic Neutral
>>46362873
What if the character has some kinda Achilles type shit going on, like he's one tough bastard but one lucky shot to his enchanted shoulder blade and BAM dead
>>46376189
I think "Magical creature" there means not a humanoid/demihuman. Half Dragon, Half Fey, Half Angel, Half Demon, or so on.
>>46374662
Definitions and meanings to words change. Mary Sue is now "special snowflake"
>>46376594
Not really, Mary Sue and Special Snowflake are now "I don't like it"
>>46376624
Only for this place. 4chan is a containment site for whiny bitches. Everyone knows that.
>>46376624
The line between snowflake and non-snowflake is definitely blurred by like/dislike in most cases, but that doesn't mean a snowflake and not liking something are the same.
>>46376716
>Only for this place
I found this "mary sue" shit pretty often as a player and GM, and half the time were "I just don't like this", dude, I've seen people call an average as fuck halfling bard Special snowflake because they guy roleplayed awesomely and tried to avoid any confrontation using wits and charisma.
>>46362873
>
This is the worst without doubt, anyone who follows what I wrote above is clearly a Mary Sue
>>46371772
no you idiot, your shield arm is protected by a shield, so you need LESS protection for it.
Your weapon arm is the one that should be tougher because you are exposing far more in swinging a weapon.
Although whether the extra weight and encumbrance on your weapon arm would be worth it is up to debate.
Will I avoid making my character a Mary Sue if I ask the group what they want me to make?
![Barack-Obama-Sad[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/uNxz406.jpg "Barack-Obama-Sad[1].jpg")
>>46362873
>Part of a savage and violent race with severe INT penalties
>Somehow outspoken and intelligent
>Somehow because the supreme leader of another race's civilization
Yep, that's a Mary Sue alright.
>>46363173
>one guy decapitated.
>stepping on another's face.
Are we sure that's not a Sith in training?
>>46375373
I don't hear other people saying this too often, for whatever reason/
>>46367612
Got a job, been a productive member of society, had kids that weren't 100% fuck-ups, shot Hitler's last vampire ghost dragon in the balls.
You know, Tuesday.
I sure as shit didn't get shit on by a fucking windmill, that's for sure.
>>46377008
Oh, come on, like he's the only well-spoken black person?
>Out of the ordinary group of people, the player characters aka main characters of the story, are out of the ordinary
WHO FUCKING KNEW?!
>>46377102
Like there's only one tiefling in any setting
like there's only one good drow in any setting
like there's only one aasimar in any setting
Long etc
Being one of many doesn't make you less mary sue special snowflake
>>46376133
I always thought barbarians in dnd were just guys who'd get unreasonable angry at times. Like a choleric nobleman, for example
>>46377252
They come illiterate as default in 3e, while every other class has reading and writing standard as part of knowing a language.
If you want to be a choleric nobleman or classic sir lancelot, you can go barbarian for a lot of levels to get strength from rage, but you want to start in something that's not barbarian: a level or two of fighter for bonus feats is typical.
>>46370798
>Well then you have to ask if a character can even be mary sue in the average TTRPG.
You can't, unless the GM is enabling you.
>>46362873
>>46362873
You're the result of my many intercourses with your mother while your father watched.
>>46363412
>One day, while she was scrying on the mageweb, a literal bridge troll suggested that she might not be a special snowflake, so now she gets triggered whenever anyone disagrees with her.
>>46362873
>Character is a race that they had to argue with the DM to add to the setting.
>Character is a race associated with something op in the setting, like dragon kin.
>Character is a furry.
>Characters backstory hooks all imply power or influence. Nobility, well connected, etc.
>>46378312
>>Characters backstory hooks all imply power or influence. Nobility, well connected, etc.
Fuck you, there's literally a background in the game called Noble and it's the recommended for Paladins.
>>46363118
If you bothered to read Drow lore, surface dwelling Drows who were worshippers of Eilistraee were very much a thing. And depending on whether your setting had the Lady Penitent crusade them yet or not, it would be very uncommon, but not unheard of, to have non-evil and good aligned Drow.
>>46378550
>He follows the setting rules
MARY SUE!
>>46363221
I played a sith who was non-angsty non-evil, he was an old hermit who believed in freedom above all else.the only interaction he had with force users before he met the party was when an actual sith killed his master while he was still a slave
>>46378575
>He homebrews supar speshul history for his ebil races
MARY SUE
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>>46376133
Good thing everything D&D ONLY applies to D&D and cannot be reasonably used in any other situation what so ever
as long as you're not playing D&D there is absolutely and utterly nothing wrong with playing an intelligent barbarian
D&D is not the fantasy dictionary folks
>>46363576
You did good, Anon.
>>46378594
So was he actually Sith, or was he just an independent Force user? It always bothers me when someone uses Sith to define a character doesn't buy into mainline Jedi domga.
>>46379089
He called himself a sith when he was really an independent. And he only called himself that because he didn't realize that most people who use the sith code use it as an excuse to oppress, instead of liberate. He eventually dropped the title.
>>46363624
My head scars just give me a bald spot if I cut my hair short enough
>>46378062
It's nobody's fault but your own that you don't know what a Mary Sue is. Stop blaming others.
>>46363790
Anyone from Pratchett's nobels is a mary sue
>>46376932
>I want my arm that is pointed towards my enemy to have less armor please.
>>46379154
Nice character development.
>>46379226
Get with the times, grampa, words evolve.
>>46379088
>Eastern European immigrant Drow
I am totally doing this next campaign. I just need a track suit, gold chains, and vodka to achieve the proper amount of CHEEKI BREEKI.
>>46363208
No, wish fulfilment, same way you can't also play a human, male, with 2 eyes, 2 arms, 2 hands, 2 legs, etc, if your character has anything that you also have, it's wish fulfilment and therefore mary sue. So play a non carbon based ooze or else mary sue.
>>46365022
What? Unless you meant liking traps and/or getting fucked by them, in which case yeah, that's gay as all get out and everyone who uses the term "feminine penis" should have "I like cock because I'm gay/bisexual" branded on their faces so they can't deny it.
>>46371416
Star Wars droids (of certain types) are thinking, feeling, intelligent beings. The droid was her first friend ever, and she knew it was gonna get scrapped for parts, which would basically be murder from her (admittedly disgustingly moral) perspective. Some people are just nice people anon, even when they spend a lot of time in a shitty environment. Besides, she wasn't born there anyway.
>>46377008
He's a half-orc, not an orc.I appreciated the joke though.
Is wanting to play a Dwarf who as part of his backstory is a half-Duergar just as tasteless and sue-ish as wanting to play a half-Drow Elf?
>>46379745
I do not have all the parts the average human has.
This is the result of playing with explosives as a child.
>>46378138
I'd like to think that the lack of responses like yours mean nobody was taking the shitty bait OP was putting down. I was considering posting this same picture. But part of me wonders if the lack of response to OP's bait is ignorance of historical armor from the "practical armor" wankers that show up in every fucking thread with armor. I couldn't find any better examples of this same idea of armoring one shoulder in a later historical period. Jousting armor heavily reinforced one shoulder compared to the other.
>>46362873
Are you saying that gladiators weren't cool?
>>46379888
I mean, The blade shouldn't just start moving.
>>46365379
This. I'm a sucker for eye patches.
I blame snake plissken
>When he names his characters after anime ones
I'm so tired of seing bwulfs, sigurds and cadmus, fuck that fate stay knight whatever
It's kinda cool.
>>46362873
are you retarded? thats a real method for wearing armor. theres a reason behind it
>>46381969
craaaawling in my skin is not a reason for wearing only one shoulder.
>>46363501
>one game's magic system is unbalanced
>ALL games are unbalanced!
>>46378138
>>46381969
I'm no expert on ancient Rome, but wasn't gladiator armour a very much a case of form over function?
>>46363173
Dual weilding a gun and a saber.
Noice
>>46372617
>However, this proves that even the Romans thought the one-shoulder was cool.
Also that you don't really need armor covering an arm that's already covered shoulder to knee by your shield.
>>46362873
Bitch niggaz leave
>>46382325
Obviously chest and thigh armor would be beneficial for the murmillo, but since everyone else is geared equally incompletely, you're probably fine.
>>46366917
Im glad this thread is still around, tried to reply at work but connection was shit. This is from when i was 6, 18 years ago, the wound required like 17 stitches or something but it wasnt extremely serious. I hope this helps. Stuck an arm through a window btw
Alexander the Great was a real life sue
>Eyes were different colors
>Taught by the smartest philosopher ever
>Read stories about ancient heroes, sought to emulate them.
>Supposedly a demigod
>Almost conquered the entire known world, all in a mad race to the farthest sea.
>Bishonen as fuck, led from the front.
>Life was basically a swords and sandals film.
>Died undefeated in battle at a young age because he was just too dope to exist.
I remain convinced that Alexander the Great was a fictional character who somehow escaped into real life.
>>46382623
you got knee in your arm?
maaan, weird shit
>>46383039
You need to lay off the drugs, famalam.
>>46377011
The helmet is empty. There's nobody inside those suits. The lightsaber guy is angry at Sith trickery.
>>46375373
Have you seen Bible Black, anon?
>>46378243
This made me laugh out loud at work
>>46378594
Do you mean the Sith alien or the Sith philosophy?
Your PC wasn't what I had in mind, though. It was more this guy.
>>46373899
/wooo/ here, he has a point.
>>46382999
WITNESSED.
Don't forget his many wives and boyfriend.
>>46382999
Those trips.
>>46373290
>>46373232
>>46372617
are you guys seriously retarded? gladiators fucked each other up very much so.. slaves were made into gladiators to make money for their owners. Have you guys taken any form of basic history class a 1300 level class perhaps at a community college or higher level institution.. How fucking stupid are the 3 of you?
>>46378138
this.
this is exactly how they wore armor.. and it is very practical.. You do not want your thrusting arm to get fucked so you armor it while the other is tucked behind the shield. this was very common at the time.. and more efficient than even battle armor used in wars.. Some of you on here need to read a fucking book.
>>46382024
you are stupid af.. one arm is armored because it peeks over the shield when thrusting the sword. This is very functional and allows for more agility. the shield covers half and the unarmored arm so in a sense it is armored. notice that the parts of the body that are exposed are armored such as shins, thrusting arm, head... like do you fucking think or just type?
>>46384774
It's a matter of historical debate how much of gladiatorial combat was showmanship and how much was combat. Wounds were certainly given and lives lost, but was a realistic and practical display of martial prowess put on for the crowd or did it prove that something exaggerated and silly can still be injurious/lethal/at least somewhat protective? We don't have the time machines to find out.
>>46363118
That's why, in my settings, there are whole communities of non-evil or at the very least, tolerant evil, Drow.
If people want to do the whole Drizzits thing, they can, but they can't pull 'the only gay in the village' act without a handful of Drow telling them off for it.
>>46367582
Isn't that like any Wizard after level six or so?
>>46372873
That's similar to my Character a while ago.
She ran from the Underdark to save her skin after she pissed off a High Priestess but otherwise was still evil.
She ended up with a group of adventurers because they were willing to take her along and despite still being an evil Drow, didn't go out killing babies and burning down towns because that would be detrimental to her long term goal of not getting killed.
She often dreamed of heading back to the Underdark and at one point was even made an offer, kill the Sun Elf Cleric of the party and bring back her head, or even better, lure her down there to become a sacrifice, and she'd be forgiven for her prior actions.
She decided she'd much rather stay with people who looked out for her then head back to a world where even a friend would stab you in the back if it benifited them.
>>46381194
>cadmus
Who? I know this is really weak bait, but this guy sounds like he might be cool if you're comparing him with Sigurd.
