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>>46359066
Will Fair decks raise again?
Friendly reminder that Memedern is a meme format.
>>46359066
>>46359200
>>46359333
>>46359458
I'm amazed that doublesguy is still a meme after all this time
Do you think there are such thing as formats for memes? Like Bane or Kek being Modern memes while dubs and dragon dildos being Legacy?
>>46359520
ahaha i read about those memes their funny xdd
>>46359520
Kek would be a Standard meme. Costanza would be a Modern meme. mootxico, slowpoke, efg, longcat, vector thrusting, f40ph, dsfargeg etc. would be Legacy and Vintage.
>>46359200
Fair decks are a myth.
My body is ready.
>>46359520
What is the Black Lotus of memes then? Milhouse? EFG? Boxxy?
>>46359200
When Ancestral Vision is unbanned, we will rise again!
>>46359520
If formats were memes ranging from standard = zozzle and vintage = dsfargeg modern would be somewhere around 2 gay dudes smearing shit on each others dicks then performing fellatio
>>46362318
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPYZpwSpKmA&ebc=ANyPxKqm0X_2WyXtLd1NjWZ5Rw55nJ3mdVVJ3-ztusG3R8ljA6fPHfs5v2B1cSvWjT6KZeZhJytPiCw6YLy44k9HwIU5Yrbgsg
>>46362209
Did you crack those expeditions or buy them?
>>46362209
what the fuck are those sleeves?
>>46362209
Really really like/10
What's your reasoning for 2 tasigur 1 gurmag? Usually I see it vice-versa, althought I suppose the legendary clause is irrelevant given the bursty nature of delve cards
Has it ever mattered in a game? I don't play grixis btw
>>46364291
Not him
I believe those are Force of Will sleeves for their commanders or whatever they're called, a buddy of mine has them for his commander in EDH
>>46365049
Tasigur's activated ability is insanely more relevant than the extra point of power in the late game, which is where you want to get the game state in Grixis. The card advantage is real. You can Kommand back creatures you flip and I've even played a Tasigur into Tasigur on board just to get the extra delve to fix his activation following Serum Visions.
>>46365287
Sweet, thanks.
Yeah I suppose the extra power doesn't matter in grixis, compared to that sweet activated ability. and costing 1 less delve is relevant too.
Any SoI cards catch your eye?
>>46362209
Question, why are you running Pin and Kiran are they good?
Also is Engulf the shore playable in blue moon?
>>46362209
>not playing signed guru lands
Get #rekt scrub
>>46359333
The word meme was a mistake. Like everything else on this site, mostly Mary Sue, it has come to mean "thing I don't like".
>>46365753
Not him but they are good for some reason. Probably the most deceptive powerlevel on a card. 3 bodies means it can't easily be spot-removed, evasion on two of the bodies is nice, and the ability is very subtle.
>>46365753
engulf the shore is replacing evacuation for me in myTurnsdeck the sole reason being for the Death and Taxes matchup.
Wow this thread is dead.
Gonna post my memeskai list to really rile up some folks and get some hot, juicy opinions flowing.
>>46365287
>even played a Tasigur into Tasigur on board just to get the extra delve to fix his activation following Serum Visions
If you Delve a Tasigur into a Tasigur, then fix an activation, wouldn't he just return the Tasigur you sacced and essentially make you blow out your yard and pay 4 mana for nothing?
>>46366000
dub trips confirms. Still don't understand it man like I would rather drop a planeswalker.
>>46366249
I don't get it either, but when you play it you'll understand. It's immediate value, it can turn an ugly boardstate into a feasible one, and again the ability is subtle, but gives you spot removal or reach. It's a lot of gas for 4cmc.
An elspeth, the turn you cast it, is basically a 4 mana 1v1 when it comes to immediate, right-here-right-now value.
>>46359732
Kek is definitely legacy, it's from 2003/2004
Jeskai Ascendancy Gifts Loam is the real deal
>>46367347
sick planeswalker points lifetime bro
>>46362209
>Expeditions
>in those sleeves
>with that mat
>mfw
>>46367559
This is what happens when we let people buy cards with Neetbuxx
ban it to the ground
>>46365845
>Not APAC/EURO lands
ONE. JOB.
It's April Fools FNM tomorrow, rate my deck
4x Battle of Wits
211x Island
![vampire_token_black_11[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/xCbOQqo.jpg "vampire_token_black_11[1].jpg")
>Wizards unbans everything
>Wizards bans non-reprinted white bordered cards
What would happen to Modern? Would it be a positive change?
>>46369334
Why would a vampire wear a hood at night?
>>46369257
If you're going to do that, at least add 4 Treasure Hunt to double your odds.
I had a sicknasty jank pile on cockatrice, esper battle of wits. Basically played a bit like esper control but it also had some value creatures like blade splicer. All the counterspells, and the hand disruption, all the while removal. Was pretty fun and every hand was a new surprise. Idealic tutored into a Battle of Wits and won that way, lost the list though :(
If anything it was really fun
>>46369399
Because it looks cute as fuck
>>46369334
Goodbye Tron, Worship, Choke, Boil, Boiling Seas, etc.
Modern becomes better overall.
#freeseethingsong
#stormdidnothingwrong
fae return when
>>46369426
>treasure hunt
>reveal 30 islands, finally hit battle of wits
>play it
>can't win anymore due to having drawn to under 200 cards
>>46370665
Never you memespewing piece of shit.
>>46370727
This is why you should have at least 800 islands in the deck
>>46369426
Run brainspoil to tutor for battle of wits.
Baby Jace 200$
>>46370727
Maybe run an Eldrazi Titan?
>>46371200
then the treasure hunt would stop when you hit the titan...
>>46371214
Ah, you're right. I need to sleep.
>>46371241
4x treasure hunt
4x battle of wit
992x islands
I call it thousand island dressing.
>>46363761
No one in Modern is both good enough to pilot faeries competently and insane enough to take faeries over a deck that is more forgiving in play.
Faeries is the most autistic deck.And I wouldn't have it any other way.
>>46371257
or just run 210 islands and have almost five times as high chance of drawing battle of wits.
>>46371294
It's a crazy expensive t3 deck.
No one should play it based on the price alone.
>>46359066
>Eldrazi Mimic is banned
>Nothing is unbanned
>Hail Emrakul
>>46371310
>tfw owned the non-faerie half of what goes into faeries for the longest time
It's as mana efficient as it's going to get for UB decks, that's why I bought into the rest. That and I'm the sort of autist who prefers the game plan faeries supports.
>>46370727
you do realize that it would happen even without treasure hunt, right
>>46371423
It's a solid game plan, it's reign in standard proved that. It just doesn't have the tools available to it to combat the modern meta game.
>>46371487
Eh, I'd challenge that.
It has tools, it just doesn't have a safety net. The cards are strong together, not individually, and that makes Faeries inherently riskier than other decks when misplayed.
>>46371477
No?
The deck would be 215 cards, so it would take 8 turns before you reach the point where you can't win.
At that point you would have lost to your opponent long ago.
Not to mention that you would aggressively mulligan for the Battle of Wits, so you'd usually start a game with far less cards in hand.
>>46371296
But then you can't use the clever name.
>>46371542
>thousand island
>992 islands
That's not clever, that's being bad at math.
>>46371539
Yes. Exactly. You lose anyway.
>>46371539
His point is that if battle of wits was far enough in your deck that treasure hunt would lose you the game, you would have list anyways.
>tfw FNM is on April Fools Day
>tfw SOI prerelease, the following day, is on International Autism Day
>>46371705
>mfw
>>46362209
You are probably long gone but you should cut something for a Kalitas. The value that card generates is insane. Also I am not a huge fan of remand unless you are in more of a tempo/delver shell.
>>46362209
Has anyone ever told you you're waifu a shit?
Anime sleeves and mats lower your testosterone, thereby lowering your ability to be happy and have positive thoughts. Without positive thoughts, your ability to mentally inflict the universe to positive outcomes is severely diminished.
Basically, anime will feminize you and make you unlucky.
>>46372946
>Has anyone ever told you you are waifu is shit.
:^)
>>46372960
Last time I checked masturbation increased testosterone? I mean, so does seeing other mens dicks but masturbation works well for the straight side of the audience.
>>46372960
Literally worse pseudo science bullshittery than the first episode exposition of a sci-fi anime.
Kill yourself my man
>>46373083
I ain't your man, fag.
Athreos has a place in modern
>tfw I have a mental block that stops me from buying any cards I want even though I spend money on stupid shit all the time
>mfw I will never play Magic IRL
>>46374053
Gotta try harder to get me to bite.
>>46374079
I've got the inverse problem on top of having no one to play with in reasonable distance.
How does snapcaster and scavenging ooze work?
>>46374178
Scooze eats whatever it wants as long as the controller has sources of Green mana to cough up, but if they're all tapped out of Green you can Snapcaster in and target the relevant card, and if it's an instant you can cast it before Scooze can eat it.
The gist of it all is that whoever is the most recent ability on the stack wins and pretty much negates whatever the other one was doing due to target invalidation and whatnot.
It's easier to show than to tell, honestly.
>>46374178
By using the stack. Seriously, the interaction is different depending on what happened in what order, so work it out yourself and learn.
Generally speaking though, unless the ooze player lacks green mana, he wins.
>>46359066
how many artifacts does a control deck need to reliably use thopter spy network as a card advantage engine?
inb4 gb2 standard.
there's no standard thread and the prerelease thread way less credible than the modern one.
>>46362209
Funny having the image of your deck used by another. Deck has been long updated with Kalitas etc since this time
>>46375383
Kalitas is dank. Aside from being value town he hoses Abzan company combo
>>46375383
New picture?
Also, did you crack/trade for the expeditions or did you actually exchange currency for them?
>>46375866
The tooth fairy left them under his pillow.
Of course he paid for them, some people have a job.
>>46371294
It has nothing to do with how hard it is to pilot.
The deck gets steam rolled by aggro and against grindy decks the best you have is a 4/4 flier or a few 1/1s that will kill end up killing you off if you can't close the deal fast enough
>>46372960
Lol. One of the few things that keeps me happy is masturbating to my waifu Neptune. It's pretty masculine to want to shove your cock in an anime girl.
Bit the bullet and bought my first two sets of fetchlands
Hopefully it'll work
>>46376611
Hopefully what will work lol
>>46376635
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxU2eqZtYmc
>>46376611
>tfw need to buy Scalding Tarns
I just want to play Sneak and Show
>>46376611
>not buying fake Onslaught fetches and pretending to be an oldfag
>mfw they spoil the april 4th bans
>>46363761
I'd sow my temptation in her.
>>46376936
Why not just buy real ones at that point? They're not much more expensive
POST April 1st bans
Tarmogoyf (for format diversity)
>>46377041
Yes! Then I just never play this shit tier format again and buy goyfs to play legacy BUG because the price drop
>mfw people enjoy modern
How can you guys enjoy by far the worst format in MtG (excluding memes like tiny leaders)? This format is garbage, it's high priced because it "doesn't rotate" but is rather forcibly rotated by Wizards for format diversity. So you get all the high price of legacy with the bullshit rotation of Standard and unlike standard you don't even know what's going to rotate, you just get a new ban list where they add more cards to it and take nothing off. This is the worst format I've ever seen and I have unironically played Prismatic.
>>46377024
A full set of Khans fetches is (by tcgplayer's median prices) $370 US. 20 fakes is $20.
>>46377153
I'll also add that unlike legacy there are very few interesting or engaging card interactions. Aggro is by far king of modern and this leads to incredibly boring games where you're both just slogging creatures and bolts at each other. There's very little interaction in modern because they banned what few cards in the modern card pool actually promoted interactivity.
>>46377183
and they look like shit
Enjoy your F L O O D E D S T R A N D
>>46377235
It's been a year, and nobody's caught on. Nobody ever will, because they're fucking fetchlands.
>>46377235
SCG Shill
>control players this assmad
>>46377262
Hell, even the shocks look "good enough" double sleeved and across the table. Lili, Goyf, someone might notice, but nobody is going to second-guess a manabase.
>>46377213
There aren't ' interesting' interactions in legacy you delusional moron
The interactions are just different and more explosive.
>stop liking what I don't like
Manchildren, fuck em.
>>46377478
People that notice are autist or people actively looking for mistakes. so if you are not trading them, you can be pretty sure that only a true autist will screw you in the middle of a game
>>46377496
At least legacy promotes interaction. It feels like the people in charge of modern are hellbent on making the format about jerking off and blowing your load faster than your opponent can.
>>46366434
In which case, Kek the original card or mechanic is from an early set, but Kek got a revival as a fairly well supported tribe. Consider the difference between having a few random merfolk as blue monsters and the Fish deck as it is now.
>>46377527
What makes it work is that people have to actually give two shits about the face of any given card. The Scrubland in the scan I posted has a typo that's obvious to anyone who reads it, but in a legacy/vintage environment the moment I say "Scrubland" the card's face loses importance. It becomes no more than a reminder that the card is there.
>>46377560
Then why do they ban fast uninteractive decks like Bloom?
At least know what you're talking about before trying to make these points
>>46377153
Standard is for cucks, Draft is a money pit.
There's only a few legacy events a month, and my Modern deck works there just fine with a few swaps.
>>46377619
Because it wasn't turn your dudes sideways as fast as possible aggro. Masturbation doesn't always require a combo deck
>>46377619
Bloom was banned because this faggot decided to palm the "First Turn Kill" hand like 50 fucking times and inflated people's perceptions about how good it is.
>>46362209
Only 1 jace?
isn't 3 snaps and 2 jace a better split , although this is understandable if you only have the 1
>>46377619
Turn 2 Hivemind pact crossed the line for acceptable amounts of uninteractivity and tilted modern babbies.
>>46377496
Yes there are you retard. Force of Will promotes a healthy format where combo decks can actually exist and do well but not totally dominate because you always have the ability to counter a key play. Cards like Cabal Therapy test skill. There's a lot more viable archetypes and thanks to Senseis top and counterbalance there's actually a way for control to win the game that doesn't involve shitty manlands
>>46363761
#1 unbanning candidate coming through, move aside plebs
>>46377876
>unbanning sword of the meek in aggro:the aggroing:the format
>>46377906
Yeah they'll never do it because modern babies would cry that their goblin guide got blocked
>>46377876
>>46377932
I want both this and Dread Return unbanned.My foil Extirpates hunger for blood!
>>46377852
So you can play control in legacy. That's all you're getting at.
Lol fucking control fags always have a superiority complex
>>46378291
What does have to do the fact that legacy has interaction with the fact of he being a controlfag? fucking aggrofags are the one ruining the game complaining for everything blue gets
>Fug countespells why can't i just turn sideways my creatures and win with them? this is not like my animus!! blue overpowered shit
>>46378416
Yea because I totally said that
>>46359066
Zombie Loam reporting in
>>46378291
>So you can play control in legacy.
And Tempo, and Midrange, and interactive Combo...
Trying something different with D&T, splashing Black and "colorless". Thoughts ? Still don't know if Black is worth splashing for.
Creature (30)
2x Aven Mindcensor
3x Blade Splicer
3x Dryad Militant
2x Eldrazi Displacer
3x Flickerwisp
3x Judge's Familiar
4x Leonin Arbiter
4x Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
4x Tidehollow Sculler
2x Wasteland Strangler
Land (22)
4x Caves of Koilos
4x Ghost Quarter
3x Godless Shrine
7x Plains
2x Sea Gate Wreckage
1x Swamp
1x Tectonic Edge
Instant (4)
4x Path to Exile
Artifact (4)
4x AEther Vial
Sideboard (15)
2x Kor Firewalker
2x Leonin Relic-Warder
2x Mirran Crusader
1x Phyrexian Revoker
3x Rest in Peace
2x Spellskite
3x Stony Silence
>>46378654
Way to miss the point champ
>>46377852
Miracles is not a good example of why control in Legacy is good for the format, it's the one deck that goes to time every time and is totally uninteresting to play or play against. FoW is only good because it stops turn 0 combos, otherwise it isn't a card you're super happy about drawing
>>46378681
Black is a decent splash for DnT. You get bob, wasteland strangler and sculler. Really, the splash color depends a lot on your meta.
>>46378291
No I'm not getting at that at all. Kek I don't even play control. I play Burn and Sneak Show in Legacy. So aggro and a combo deck. I'm probably not good enough to pilot miracles but the deck looks interesting. My main point was that all archetypes were viable in Legacy. There's even budget legacy decks that can compete like UR Storm and Worldgorger Combo you just aren't going to see them on mtggoldfish.
>>46378500
I mean he's paraphrasing, but still accurate. If anything he's being charitable.
>>46378834
What would be a good ratio of Scullers/Stranglers ?
>>46378732
How is that missing the point? The only viable archetype in modern is aggro and the Splinter Twin ban only exacerbated that by destroying the only top tier combo deck
>>46366434
i was referring to 'kek' the egyptian frog god or whatever that sprung up in the past few months, not the old warcraft crossover meme.
lulz would be a vintage meme. the black lotus, i'd say.
>>46378734
>Uninteresting to play with
>Not loving how you see your opponent frustrated against countertop
>>46378981
3/3 is usually good.
>>46379050
While you sit there and durdle for 40 turns because your deck has one win con? No, that's not particularly interesting. Plus, you fold to any combination of Black and Green
>>46379095
Thanks, I'll try something like that.
There any cheap way to get into Modern? Aggro or burn style?
>>46379134
Entreat the Angels is the wincon. After locking down the board with Countertop and having enough permission in your hand you dig for Entreat and cast it for its miracle cost to flood the board with several 4/4 fliers who will probably end the game next turn
Opinions of running as a one or two of in a home brew Suicide deck? My god I wish Hall of the Bandit Lord worked somehow on Death's Shadow
>>46379436
Exactly
Doing nothing and waiting to hit your wincon is boring and takes up too much of the clock, it's the reason top was banned in modern
>>46379419
My advice don't get into modern. Just get into Pauper and buy a couple decks for less then the price of a single playset of fetches. Then gift a deck to a friend because they're like $25. Or get into Legacy
>>46379490
But control in Modern without Top is even worse. Every fucking Friday at the LGS there's at least 2 retards trying to push control in a format where it doesn't work and every time they go to turns. It's the absolute most boring deck to watch or to play against. There's no wincon except a playset of a manland that can easily be dealt with.
>>46379491
No stores around do pauper or legacy. Standard or modern, mostly.
>>46379551
I play control in Modern, and the only times I go to time is when my opponent doesn't know his own fucking deck well enough to pull out a win or know when to concede.
>>46379551
Yea, there's a guy at my store who plays UW control. Every time he's in control of the board and his opponents have literally nothing he won't use his colonnades to attack. He just holds mana up thinking hell need to remove his top decking opponents next threat. Fucking miserable to watch.
>>46379551
>boohoo they're playing an archetype they enjoy and I readily admit is shit but fuck them anyway because they take too long
But really though any control deck using just manlands as a wincon are doomed to failure, control needs to experiment with some alternate wincons in modern rather than just going for "the same old list". I mean it's probably not going to help, but at least they could be that guy running Jace, Architect of Thought or some shit.
>>46379441
Holy fuck anon. I got one of these while I was homebrewing a RDW based on creatures, ended up just going burn.
But in suicide zoo... Holy man this thing on a Deaths Shadow would be crazy.
Openedupmysynapses/10
>>46379441
Just cast mycosynth lattice anon.
>>46379666
>No stores around do pauper or legacy. Standard or modern, mostly.
This.
>>46379804
They did
It was called splinter twin
>>46379889
Is splinter twin the only viable "control" deck win con in modern?
>>46379889
>splinter twin
>control deck
Uh... I guess in the same way ad nauseum is a control deck?
You do know that games twin didn't win through the combo they won through tempo beatdown, right?
>>46375866
Will post one when I'm at home.
Traded/bought all of them, have around 40 expeditions all up
>>46379832
The sorcery speed is unappealing but I think it has merit. It fits all other things the deck wants to do minus cycle
>>46379832
I've always wanted to run Lattice in Tron, just so I could Door To Nothingness someone.
What decks have a very strong control matchup besides GR tron?
I play a similar list to Gerard Fabianos Sultai control list except no goyfs cause I'm a broke faggot. Instead I run 2 scooze, an angler, and another maelstrom pulse. It's pretty fun desu senpai, and the scooze helps against burn and aggro and shit, so it's not even too much of a trade off.
>>46380434
What kind of control?
>>46380588
Traditional blue control.
>>46380598
Mono blue modern control?
>>46380642
Things like UWR and UW control decks. Mono blue control doesn't exist in modern.
>>46380434
Infect
Burn
Affinity
>>46380884
Nah man, infect and burn do not do very well against urw control. After board it's pretty much unwinnable
>>46381273
But against esper they are good. the problem is UWR is more tempo than control
Modern is so dead the only conversation in any thread is legacy or non played archtypes, it like you made your shovels, dug your own graves, laid down in them then started complaining that you are not dead yet and blamed the guys that owned the dirt
Would this card give red the good two drop that it needs?
>>46382544
You mean besides the young pyromancer, eidolon and goblin options?
assuming shitty card design is a meme.
>>46382139
You're right.
The format died when they banned Splinter Twin and Summer Bloom.
Fuck the pro tour. And especially fuck Aaron Forsythe.
>>46382544
Yes, this is the exact card modern needs it would go in every deck that plays red
>>46382735
Only way to fix it is to ban urza lands and cranial plating so OGW can sell more packs when peole realise how fucking terrible SoI is
>>46382778
>>46382778
>Only way to fix it is to
unban twin, bloom, mystic, bbe, ponder and jace
Eternal masters will be 8th through theros and nu-modern will be m15 + to keep eldrazi segregated
>>46383102
sheer co incidence jewzards announced a new format and destroyed modern at the same time goy, move along
>>46382139
>4chan general traffic is indicative of anythings popularity
>>46383102
>>46383155
This is the kind of idiot that posts here lol
>>46382981
Not enough incentive to tap creatures sideway, so it would never happen
>>46383102
>>46383155
>don't let the meme die, it will give us (You)s
>>46383536
I've spent about a year each in a variety of Magic communities in large and small cities. And only in the largest metropolitan centers does Magic communities not appear to be on life-support. Sometimes I look at Wizards' claims that attendance is through the roof and wonder what the fuck they're talking about. If attendance is surging in large centers but absolutely bottoming out in smaller centers to the point where events don't fire, there's a problem there even if there's an objective growth in players.
When a community dies in a city or town it takes a sustained year-long effort from the store and players to revive it. If the store goes under then your community becomes effectively extinct until some idiot opens up another store (the dumbest fucking business decision on the planet - nerds know how to shop online).
Maybe Wizards doesn't care about small communities anymore. Maybe they're fine with sales from Walmart or Target without a place for sanctioned play in some areas. It's just shocking that the two states of Magic communities are two polar opposites of wildly flourishing and an abandoned husk.
>>46362209
>weeb mat
>weeb waifu sleeves with bordered card gaurd sleeves
my brother from the same autistic mother
>>46383821
Im in a smallish town with only one gaming store (GW doesn't count) its a great store and they host many events and provide a fairly large place to play but the customers are just god fucking awful i activley avoid the place and drive an hour and a half away to the nearest big city just to have a choice of where to play that isnt 100% autism
>>46384221
Do bitches like this look in the mirror and think they look good?
>>46384693
That bitch looks good
Fuck the h8ers
>>46384693
No shes black she knows she doeant look good
Speaking of black whos brewing with pic related
>>46384803
She looks like a fucking clown lol
>>46384855
Dont insult clowns
>>46384936
I'm sorry. I was out of line.
>>46384693
You can't see that in the git but she probably has tits big enough to make her face irrelevant. And is well aware of it.
![[blood moon intensifies].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/qYFYF3r.jpg "[blood moon intensifies].jpg")
>>46383706
four of those cards facilitate or directly require a creature tapping AND combat damage to win the game.
jace is technically a mill win-con and facilitates processor eldrazi with his -12.
ponder is the lynchpin that allows the unbanned cards to compete with eldrazi, which it totally fair now that the most egregious offender and facilitator of turn 2 kills, eldrazi mimic, has been banned in modern.
So what day is the B&R list announcement?
I wanna know how hard eldrazi are gonna die so i can build grixis TITI.
>>46385477
That's mesmerising
>>46369251
APAC lands are largely shit.
Euro lands vary quite a lot in quality. France Forest, Belgium Swamp, UK Plains and Netherland Plains are the only ones that are actually great. The rest are all decent except the mountains which are boring.
Guru lands are all top-tier.
>>46385477
This monday. I recommend you lurk all weekend in case of an early leak, like the Twin/Bloom ban.
>>46385626
No love for Italy Island?
>>46377764
Glad to see people still hate him
He even cheated in standard and edh
he cheated in like every game he ever played
>>46366225
You'd be surprised how it affects someone to force them to make a choice unrelated to them winning the game while a timer is running.
Also "scoop Tasigur back from the yard off paying for Tasigur" is great against incoming Reality Smasher blocked by Tasigur and Thopter token
>>46377764
>Bloom was banned because this faggot decided to palm the "First Turn Kill" hand like 50 fucking times and inflated people's perceptions about how good it is.
Right and it certainly had nothing to do with situations like this either on turn 3.
>>46365753
Pia and Kiraan are good for the same reason Lingering Souls is historically good. It's not obvious on paper, but just having 2 evasive 1/1 fliers can win or get you surprinsgly close to winning a significant percentage of games. It's an impactful late game top deck. Where Lingering Souls has flashback, Pia and Kiraan's analogue is the activated ability. Coupled with Kolaghans Command, getting back P&K from the yard just once for another ETB is huge.
Before Eldrazi Winter people used to talk a lot about how the Thopter tokens being colorless were relevant against Etched Champion in Affinity, but now the meta's so distorted who knows.
>>46382981
>unban twin, bloom, mystic, bbe, ponder and jace
Dont unban ponder, bbe, jace; at least not yet. I've played jace in standard and in legacy and it doesnt seem like what modern needs, and might shift things too far one way.
>>46383102
Neo-Modern will be everything printed with a modern frame that is not a premium set. The initial banlist will also be pages long because Forsythe is a faggot.
>>46365753
I can see Engulf the Shore playable in Blue Moon for the same reason you see Vedalken Shackles with "Islands matter." I like that there's strange synergy with the ability to reuse the artifact and the choice it forces your opponent to make when redeploying. The problem with the card is that it's expensive enough that you're almost always trying to go large with it. You probably aren't going to see much of people doing something cute like sticking it for 2 toughness to get rid of all your opponent's 1/1's to swing in with your Grizzly Bear army, but we might. You may see it as a one-of in sideboards against go-wide decks.
>playing against Jund
>T1 Inquisition
>T2 Inquisition Thoughtseize
>T3 Duress Bob
>T4 Bob Bob
>T5 Finks Decay
I don't think there was anything I could have done. I can't think of any deck that could have beaten that nut.
I'm tuned right the fuck out. I've been playing in Eldrazi Memedern for weeks and this is the first time I've felt completely helpless playing the game.
>>46386321
Essentially what 8 rack does but apparently it's just a meme deck
>>46386321
If you really want to fight Jund, build Wilt-Leaf Abzan.
>>46386321
>Play 60 lands
>laugh as 80% of their deck is useless
>eat your own poo as the opponent scoops and walks away
This is exactly how i picture "a competitive format"
Modern is like a gay mans asshole:- it gets #rekt by faggot dicks till nobody want to play with it anymore
>>46386568
>>Play 60 lands
>>laugh as 80% of their deck is useless
>>eat your own poo as the opponent scoops and walks away
no anon that's a legacy deck, those cards aren't modern legal.
>>46386746
Ive pictured legacy as more of a russian roulette
Shuffle decks, draw 7 cards check hand to see if you have FoW to break their combo if not ask opponent if they have FoW to break your combo if they say no continue till someone draws FoW the last player to draw FoW has to eat the poo of both players
Legacy.format
>>46386829
no, i mean lands is literally a deck.
>>46386829
Except there are tons of competitive legacy decks that don't play FoW or even run blue at all. So shut your mouth you faggot.
>>46371539
>215 cards
>aggressively mulligan
You lose due to not being able to a sufficiently shuffled deck in the three minutes you have to do so.
>>46386829
I love fuckwit memedern players like you bitching about legacy being a fast format
Modern is so much faster than legacy right now that it's not even funny and that's coming from a guy that plays ANT, Oops and painter
The mere existence of force of will in the format means that even if you have the turn one kill in hand you generally have to wait until you know your in the clear
This is what makes legacy great compared to modern, the interactions are usually so much more complex then "do you have a force" unless your playing oops or Spanish inquisitio
He'll one of the most popular decks in the format can bring almost every one of its matches to time almost every game
I played an hour and a half match against a miracles player during a top 8 until I was finally able to push through a counterbalance top lock and squeeze out a win
The deck pool is so much more diverse than modern as well, everyone seems to think you can bring a shit brew to modern and do well when that's even less true than any other format, hell gregarious hatches legacy shit brews fair better than most modern shit brews do
Unban now Wizards!
>>46386947
>>46386990
>>46386947
Joke is on you faggot i only play standard and edh so fuck off
>>46387038
The fuck are you doing in modern thread then
>>46387038
>jokes on you I only play the worst formats in the game not only for gameplay but for monetary value as well
Standard is such a money sink its not even funny. Planeswalkers like Sarkhan who go for $30-40 during standard season plummet to $5 a month before rotation. Commander is by far the worst format even worse than modern honestly. There's no competitive aspect, the decks are boring to play and extremely inconsistent, and even though this is a bit anecdotal I have very rarely met a Commander player who wasn't an autistic annoying idiot with a superiority complex.
>>46387068
Because i enjoy coming to see what the plebs in a dead format are upto while im brewing my RB vampires for next week, looks like they are having a gay circle jerk, seems about right
>>46362209
>hentai sleeves
you make us look bad
>>46387096
Competitive childs game for 30 year old man children, ok gramps
>>46387130
RB vampires
>confirmed dipshit
RB vamps is a shitty deck, the pros have all but dropped the idea and it's not even the best tribal, gw humans it much more consistent and fun as shit to play
>>46386947
>>46386990
>>46387038
>>46387068
>>46387096
>>46387130
>>46387159
>>46387181
Bait me once shame on me, bait me 4 times you.. you cant get baited again :^)
>>46387200
Are you actually retarded?
>>46387234
Umadbro?
>>46387287
>you must be 18+ to post here
>>46387234
I think this answers your question and the answer is yes>>46387287
How do you know if a deck is good while your building it?
>>46387418
Theory crafting.
Of course, the only way to know of its any good is if you actually win with it a lot or at least most of the time against the majority of the field
Reckon the Eldrazi are at their lowest prices now or will be when they rotate out? I want thought nazi, but not $10 want. Help a cheapskate out brehs.
>>46386918
>35 lands
Fuck this shit 41 lands or bust.
>>46387418
Find all the cards you want for the deck and add them to the cart on StarCityGames(tm) if the cart is less than usd$2000 then its a shit tier pauper jank and you shouldnt be in this format
>>46387473
Wait for the eye ban on monday then give it 2 or 3 days then buy them, once the pros work another way to dominate with them in the next gp they will spike vesuva already has spiked
>>46387418
Does it include cards that fuck a high % of your meta? Does it fuck your meta harder than a netdeck? If yes, you'll probably do alright.
How do you find out how many lands you should run in a deck?
>>46367347
i fucking TOLD you
i TOLD you loam was the key
>hold on imma just treasure cruise with this loam a few times
>oh look, i dredged some fatestitchers
>bite the pillow, i'm going in dry
>>46387615
The curve if we're talking about traditional archetype, and the density of spells per casting cost
>>46385050
>tits big enough to make her face irrelevant
>tits big enough to cause back damage are a positive trait
Get your priorities in order my man
>>46387615
generally you're going to do it by archetype and format.
aggro: 17-21. you're in 1-2 colors and you're only trying to hit the first 3 land drops and vomit cards at the other guy until one of you is at 0 life or 10 poison.
midrange: 22-25 you're trying to hit minimum 5 lands with spot removal and a good base of quality threats.
control: 21-27 you're looking to make a land drop every turn with 1:1 answers, card advantage and 1 or 2 win conditions when the other guy is out of gas.
tempo: 19. you're playing delver. way to be 'that guy'. why don't you go stifle yourself, faggot.
the more important hitting every single land drop is, the more you're going to play. the real numbers can be adjusted with card filtering and card draw spells along with the mana curve of spells in the deck.
>>46387743
>>46387664
Going midrange. But I'm rocking seer's lantern for mana fixing/ramp. 24 lands thinking I should cut some just because of seer's lantern but I'm not sure. If I do cut lands it will be for some kind of removal maybe ultimate price.
Curve is
12 2's
13 3's
7 4's
4 5's
Please dont let thing in the ice suck in modern i really want the GP coverage to say "He's playing Titi Storm!"
>>46387532
Thanks for the prediction.
>>46387680
That's bullshit. You will never ever run into problems with breasts before you hit gigantomastia sizes. Those who complain of such problems are just sedentary or have horrible posture.
>>46387641
Loam looks worse than the Pyromancer Ascendancy build which itself doesn't seem optimised. It's certainly more resilient than loam post SB.
I wonder if wotc will ban a piece of miracles because of whiners. I hope not.
Unban now Wizards! I've wanted to use this card in Legacy forever!
>>46387987
>card draw for red without a downside
Naaaaah
>>46388045
Screw you its a cool and powerful card and I want to use it in Burn. Yes I know combo likes it too.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/11-02-16-skeleton-tribal/
I don't even fucking know what I'm doing anymore. I just wanna put a lot of skeletons into a deck.
Maybe I should just play EDH instead or something. This shitbrew is killing me.
>>46387743
If you're playing legacy/vintage
Aggro: 13-15
Midrange: 17-19
Control: 20-22
>>46362209
what are those borders? some kind of patterned perfect fits, or will i need to have an anime girl on my sleeves to have the cool decoration on the inside?
>>46386918
shit list 2bqhf
>>46387860
>not getting the joke
Breh the joke was she'd need beach balls for tits to make up for that face
>>46388253
>not already having waifu sleeves already because you want to rep your waifu or trigger the autists, or both even
It's like you don't even play mind games bro
>>46388260
lands as a deck is hot garbage f@m
>>46388441
>The deck that won the last GP is garbage
Lands trumps any deck who wants to cast creatures and play fair, and any deck thats got bad mana.
Thats an old control lands list, the deck has gotten really streamlined since then
