Actual Elder Dragonnothighlanderedition.
I'm going to go ahead and keep the chain alive by telling you to explain why white is the best color. Why white? Because that's the only non-puma, non-craterhoof color left.
RESOURCES
http://www.mtgcommander.net
>Official Site: Contains deck building rules and the current ban list.
http://www.tappedout.net
>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck’s strategy and card choices.
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/commander-edh
>Another resource for commander discussion; they have an entire forum dedicated to discussing decks. People often make primers, which go into detail about how they built and play their deck.
http://www.edhrec.com/
>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet.
http://manabasecrafter.com/
>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen Commander’s color identity.
CARD SEARCHING
http://gatherer.com
>Official search site. Current for all sets but has a terrible UI.
http://www.magiccards.info
>Unofficial, but has GOAT search interface.
https://discord.gg/0q3dlAIlJs57Vv8v
>Get annoyed talking to other nerds
https://notreal.gov/103490ada
>Included to see if next thread-making anon copies the whole post without reading
>>46355366
>thread's gone to shit
Well obviously, /edhg/ always goes to shit. It doesn't help to start the thread by acknowledging shitty memes.
balance unban when
>>46355449
it already is :3
How effective are decks like this:
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/gahiji-warmongeringgroup-hug-1/
?
I want a change from what I've been playing, which are rakdos combo, big blue fatties, flying men, and reanimator.
This theme of warmongering seems like a lot of fun, but I'm not sure if a deck like this would just be stomped in practice.
Any recommendations?
>>46355543
Token swarm + anthems is really strongfor commander damage Gahiji.
>white does both offense and defense really well
When will this meme end?
>>46355635
Who are you quoting?
>>46355543
I have a gahiji deck something like that and it does work better than one might immediately suspect. because you're mostly just doling out damage, rather than something much more substantial, like card advantage from Edric, the group hug-ish strat can play out. actively forcing opponents to attack whether they want to or not(avatar of slaughter and fumiko for example) and big enough effects that don't exempt you (the avatar, again) have a higher chance to blow up in your face, in my experience.
Swing for 20000 trample damage, response?
>>46355909
what are you doing guy
it's not like i'm flashing this thing in, it's sitting plainly visible on my side of the board
>>46355909
Fuck off.
>>46356055
>assume all creatures are 5/5 to start (most likely not true, but this gives even more of a benefit to the memer)
>20,000 = x * (5+X)
>20,000 = x^2 + 5x
>x^2 + 5x - 20,000 = 0
>quadratic formula
>x = 138.94
Yup the math checks out, he'd be taking around 139 damage.
Hey /edhg/ I want your input, how do you feel about tribal decks?
>>46356370
I want to make my zada mono goblins but keep seeing how Krenko would go so much smoother and faster
>>46356370
Aesthetically pleasing, but boring. It's really nice to look at a deck and see the obvious overarching theme, but overall you're sacrificing too much by limiting yourself to a tribe, and the deckbuilding is a lot less involved since your options are extremely limited.
On the flip side, it's an easy way to build a playable deck without having to think too hard about it, and some tribes like elves do offer a variety of possible builds.
>>46356370
cool enough, but my playgroup's forays into them failed to produce decks that were capable of winning without overextending, so back to goodstuff meta for us
>>46356519
I can see that, I really like narrowing down the cards I get to pick from and trying to make a semi competitive deck that way. It's kind of a fun challenge
>>46355164
That's quite possibly the least original commander archetype list I've ever seen in my life. Congratulations, you're so uncreative that you've come out the other side extraordinary.
>>46356055
>>46356050
people need to stop responding to these shitposters
>>46356370
Boring but fine
all right boys lets see those commanders
>>46355909
Problem, combatfag?
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/banana-meme/
Any advice?
>>46357900
cut voidslime, deadly tempest, rain of thorns, silence the believers, and dissipatenice dubs
>>46357973
Thank you.
SURVEY TIME
Which is your favorite god?
Mine is Erebos because fuck life gain and fuck yeah drawing cards.
>>46358443
Kruphix or Keranos, both of their abilities are really cool
>>46358443
I have lingering attachment to Thassa from her time in Standard. Face damage is always neat, scrying is a nice effect, and as a commander she both 1) comes down early, and 2) has a pleasant color identity
local meta also includes athreos, phenax, and xenagos, none of which i mind all that much
there used to be an erebos around here before that deck was consumed by the encroaching wave of Gx goodstuff
>>46358443
Ephara is the one I built a commander deck around but I'd say Athreos is probably my favorite. It is extremely unassuming, enough so that you can expect it to survive the whole game if you play it T2 or T3, but its effect is nothing to scoff at and it really does add up over a long game. The politics are also great. There's a Sharuum player at the table, you ask literally anyone but him if you can get your Reclamation Sage back and you can be sure it's going back to your hand.
I have a soft spot for those cards that are just inoffensive enough that people don't bother answering them, but that can go on to win the game.
>>46357900
Add more redundancy so you are assured to combo off, also add a win condition.
Mine for reference
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/the-winning-meme/
>>46358443
>>46358546
>>46358595
>>46358654
>everyone has different favorites
In case we needed any proof that they really fucking nailed it with that cycle.
>>46358684
Honestly I love the cycle because it was powerful enough but wasn't unnecessarily pushed
>>46358671
The win condition are my two infinite mana combos (palinchron+phantasmal image, argothian elder+maze of ith) with tasigur to find my beast within and reality shift to turn all my opponent's permanents into beasts then manifest their libraries. I'm running a good amounts of tutors to find either and control elements to get there. I just hate having dead cards such as freed from the real, or lousy cards such as pretty much any planeswalker.
>>46358684
Agreed
I like Heliod even though his abilities are pretty underwhelming compared to the other gods.
My favorite is Thassa though, partly for the lore, and partly because I pulled her in a prize pack from the first ever FNM that I won at (I had probably gone to 20 or so FNMs before I finally came in first during theros block...I'm so bad at limited).
I wish they printed weapons for the multi-colored gods. For each weapon there's at least 2 people in my playgroup that run it, except for Heliod's Spear. I'm the only one that runs that.
>>46355909
I want you to tell me how you got that high.
>>46358443
Phenax
I have a [mostly] defender mill deck with him at the helm. I can switch out the commanders if I want, but I just like the idea of having a god card at the helm...
>>46356370
There are not any good tribes to play in commander, Goblins, elves and slivers are the ony ones worth anything.
>>46359014
Genesis Wave + Gaea's Cradle + Karametra's Acolyte to play my entire deck at once, then Overwhelming Stampede with Concordant Crossroads
>>46359091
Who needs tribal when you have changelings? Just ram a mirror entity with Sliver Overlord as general and tutor.
>want to go to the SoI prerelease because Limited is the only other format I enjoy
>I won't enjoy it unless I pull Sigarda or Odric or something to make a human tribal and make an EDH deck with it after
>I don't want to miss it because I don't like drafting compared to sealed, and I only get one (4 if I'm willing to spend $180 in the span of two weeks for the release and prerelease) opportunity per set to play sealed at my store
I hate how I play this game sometimes
Would sideboards improve this format?
How would you like to see them implemented?
Who is the most underrated commander?
[Spoiler] Bonus points for old border. [/Spoiler]
>>46359440
Iona
>>46358443
Erebos, Kruphix, and Phenax are all pretty cool, but in EDH I'll take Erebos.
>>46359440nice spoilers faggot
>>46359597
[spolier}thanks[/psoil]
>>46359091
Wizards
>>46359597No! Do not look upon my shame!
>>46358879
>beasts then manifest their libraries
very interesting. I never thought of that. I always went for a simple stroke of genius for 100.
>>46358879
>I just hate having dead cards such as freed from the real, or lousy cards such as pretty much any planeswalker.
I dunno man. I play in group who always have room for a tormod's crypt so I like having plenty of backups. Also not having to worry about holding onto something when I pitch to Jace's Archivist is nice too
>>46358443
Erebos, Kruphix, Xenagos and Athreos.
>>46359440
get at me
>>46359420
Wishboards are trash. I'm glad we don't have that shit in EDH.
>>46359440
>>46359420Sideboards aren't in EDH?
>>46356243
>Implying he doesn't actually have -144 creatures
>>46360083
There are no official rules about sideboards, they're entirely within houserule territory.
I was thinking about that because once again, I heard someone complaining about Purphoros today. Fucking Purphoros, of all things, in a format with 40 life. That player has decks tuned to beat combo, aggro, stax, literally any strategy, but a goddamn BURN deck attacks him from his blind spot and he suddenly thinks it's unfair bullshit. His deck could very easily beat Purphoros every single time with minimal adjustments, but he won't do any of those adjustments, because maximizing his deck's efficiency in other, more common matchups is more important: he only cares about Purphoros to complain about it, not enough to counter it.
So I was thinking, what if sideboards were a thing? Would people still complain about Purphoros? Would they still complain about Hermit Druid or Boonweaver?
Any one else stoked for this card? Can't wait to shove it into my meren deck
>>46360626
Is that card's color white black, or just black?
>>46360685
There's literally no white symbol there. Pretty sure the sun is just to indicate which side enters face up
>>46360685
I think it's a colorless land, then a black creature
>>46360685
It would be faster and easier to just answer your question but I'd rather laugh at you for still not understanding color identity. Like holy fuck this gets asked and answered in pretty much every thread.
>>46360685
it requires you to have black in your deck
>>46360626
I'm excited. I'll be putting this in my token spam deck.
>>46359318
>likes sealed over draft
And here I was thinking I was alone
>>46360623
Neither of those decks actually care about gravehate and Purphoros isn't T1 so your friend is just a shitter.
>>46360685
Shit nigga read the rules.
>>46360853
please enlighten me to how you can enjoy an objectively worse version of limited?
you suck at card evaluation don't you?
>>46359420
You mean put any number of cards I have in my collection into my deck to hate out certain strategies, in a casual format?
>>46360855
>Neither of those decks actually care about graveyard hate
Elaborate.Don't just say they'll remove your graveyard hate card before comboing off because that's the opposite of not caring about it.
>>46358443
SNAAAAAKKKKEEEEESSS
>>46360890
>You mean put any number of cards I have in my collection into my deck
That's pretty much never how sideboards work, anywhere, so I'm fairly certain that's not what is being said here.
>>46360890
>a casual format
>with decks that cost as much as cars
>with singles that cost $50 for a piece of cardboard if you want to be remotely competent
>a """""casual""""" format
wew lad
>>46360884
I don't know about that guy, but rarely get enough time to actually build a deck. I'd much rather be given the pool immediately than waste 20 minutes picking and choosing and watching good cards go by while one guy says HURR I GOT THE EXPEDITION I ALREADY WON
>>46360776
>>46360877
I just got confused because I coulda sworn this card was white black last time I saw it.
>>46360980
you don't HAVE to buy those mana crypts kiddo
>>46360623
The fact that the deck literally does nothing without it's general, and can lose if it never anwsers a torpor orb, just shows your friend's a fucking shitter
>>46360988
did I strike a nerve or are you a way bigger turbo scrub than I thought?
>>46360980
Holy shit what kind of decks are you building? Most of my decks cost between $50-$60.
>>46361044
I completely agree that he's a shitter (and I told him as much), hence why I was laughing at the fact he'd complain about "fucking Purphoros of all things". It just got me thinking about sideboards.
>>46361075
>did I strike a nerve
Not him but what exactly makes you think that? Why are you attempting to start shit with people who give absolutely no indication of being upset?
>>46360972
If I'm playing against a gravyard heavy deck, I'm going to throw in a bunch of hate just before a match. Edh doesn't need sideboards because you can throw fuck all in your deck anytime. Who cares?
>>46360980
please post a functional decklist that costs as much as a car. Not fully sarcastic, I'm legitimately curious
>>46361125
I... really have nothing to say to that. Good for you if your group is fine with that, I guess? I'd personally be more comfortable if sideboarding had clearer rules surrounding it than just "rebuild your deck as you wish before any game" so I'm glad none of my metas allow that.
Can I get some quick feedback on this before I buy it?
>>46361075
I play limited and edh. Those are the only ways I play magic, because I'm not interested in learning metas and nabbing cards from 14 years ago just so I can play a deck that I want.
Limited keeps the pool to something I can understand, while EDH allows you to be slightly under par while not losing immediately, because of the multiplayer nature of the game.
On the other side, my store doesn't give enough time to properly even look a deck over before the rounds, mainly because the community is cheap and demanding so the store can't afford staying open that long, and there are guys who just happen to have obscene luck all of the time. It's a little dismaying when you look over a pack, everyone at your table opens and one guy says 'Woop, foil Chandra!', and you look at your pack and it's a Serpentine Spike or something.
I'm not saying draft is bad or even that I dislike it, but I prefer just being able to take my time with my own pool of cards that I know are mine right out of the gate.
>>46361206
>throw in Tormads and relic into my deck
So oppressive :^)
>>46361281
please post a tapped out link instead of a screenshot
>>46361298
I don't know where it went, but I opened this post with 'Both.' Judge as you will.
>>46360884
I prefer sealed because there's a significantly greater luck factor to it. Im fine at card evaluations and I dislike draft Because its only held at my lgs on days when they also host modern or edh nights and I'd rather do those
>>46361325
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/edh-grenzo-2/
>>46361306
Are you trying to spark an argument over the validity of your playgroup's lack of sideboard rules?
>>46360626
I'm adding it to my Orzhov Voltron deck, as Teysa's Linebacker. Can't wait to slap hexproof on him as well.
>>46361298
>14 years ago
Fucking timetravelers are all assholes
>>46361444
>inb4 that anon starts ranting about Priest of Urabrask being bad in Grenzo
As for actual feedback, I think things like Damnable Pact and Read the Bones could be replaced by creatures that effectively draw cards (like Grim Haruspex), or mana rocks are more mana is basically as good as drawing cards in Grenzo.
>>46361408
I will usual prefer Sealed when I'm just having an evening of booze and Limited with friends. It's more relaxed overall. If I'm feeling competitive, then I'll favor Draft.
I would still like to try creating an EDH cube, if such a thing is even feasible.
>>46361664
>EDH cube
Are you me?
I think it would be, thered have to be commander packs then the draft though
>>46361664
did you play the legendary cube on mtgo?
>>46361694
I think I'd rather put lots of legendary creatures in the cube. Something like the legendary cube draft on MTGO, which I never tried but have looked at, and it seems like something like that could be used to build "limited" EDH decks.
Having a commander pack might lead to players locking themselves into a color combination or archetype too early, and the rest of the draft not letting them build something playable.
>>46360626
Stupid question.
Same with the Kamigawa flip cards, this card can't be a commander due to it being a non-creature/legendary for its default card face, right?
>>46361798
that is correct
>>46361798
You're right on both counts, it can't be your commander and it is a stupid question. I like how the Elbrus callback card gets the same questions as Elbrus himself did.
>>46355635
White doesn't do any strategy on its own really well because card draw is necessary for every single strategy in edh pretty much
But the color is good for supporting both offensive Aggro decks and defensive pillow fort or control decks
>>46358443
This magnificent bastard.
>>46358443
Xenagos, because I like the fatties.
>>46362152
The main issue with white is that its good threats too rarely get to provide immediate value, so you're plopping a Kemba or Hero of Bladehold or Stonehewer Giant and just hoping you get to untap with it. Which you often won't. You just spent mana and a card for nothing.
In French, shooting blanks translates to "tirer à blanc", which is basically shooting white. We often use that expression to describe the action of dropping a white threat right before a wrath happens.
>>46358443
Kruphix and Iroas
Reposting a classic:
http://thegamecloset.com/wp/events?entry=142
>Also, any card that grants an extra turn is exiled and cannot be retrieved nor cast for again by any player. Players may not take more than two turns in a row.
>Players will be broken down into groups of 4-6 players. Only on rare occasions (once or twice a year) do players participate in one-on-one games.
>No card or ability can be activated, nor can any spell be played, nor any ability triggered, more than three times in a turn before turn 8. After turn eight, it can be done up to four times. Players can’t take more than two consecutive turns.
>After the 12th turn of the table, there is no limitation. These rules exist to limit combos to a point and to keep Monday nights fun.
>Players are encouraged to relax and enjoy themselves. This is Magic at its most casual level. Everyone should focus on enjoying themselves. Everyone gets to play their cards as they choose. Sure there will be some table politics, but keep them to a minimum. You’re not playing for high stakes here.
>If a player wins a pod, they MAY NOT play that deck the following week.
>Remember to have fun.
>>46362489
we get it, your store is full of babies. This is old now, let's move on as a general
>>46362489
>no anti-bullying rules
It's shit, not a safe space, would not play there.
>>46362489
Disgusting. Why even bother playing anything outside voltron and tribal with those limitations.
>>46362266
Well yeah that's why white needs to play protective spells to protect its threats
Also it has to hold threats in hand
>>46362489
>Remember to have fun
this sounds like the opposite of fun
>>46362822
Those are workarounds, sure, but they don't fix the issue. Holding up protection means simultaneously lowering your deck's threat density and playing behind curve. Holding threats in hand is sensible but white's threats don't provide so much value or power that they can hold their own on any board.
White really gets a shit deal in EDH.
>>46362908
How does white get a shit deal when 'Wrathing the board' is a thing. They're literally the wrath colour.
It's Green that needs to protect its interests, but even then I wouldn't say they get a shit deal by any stretch.
>>46362975
No color wants its creatures wrathed all that much it's just some colors recover better than others
>>46361559
Blue strikes again!You know what I meant, though.
>>46362975
Green gets so much instant value out of its threats it doesn't mind wraths all that much. I feel like white is generally a lot more likely to run out of action in the face of multiple wraths than green is.
>>46361545
fantastic art for the shitty version of that character.
>>46361136
not that anon but here is one that is $3306 which is a good used car.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/hermit-druid-1/
>>46362489
Woooowww.....
What the fuck am I even reading.
so if I wrath with sifter i get the tokens ya
>>46363436
That's actually less than I paid for a mint condition 89' Jeep.
>>46364748
Fuck meant to say that's more than I paid.
>>46363436
guy at my LGS doesn't play decks worth less than 2000 and lives in a trailer.
tell me a secret /edh/
>>46364779
fuck meant to say exactly what I paid
>>46364821
I deeply regret attending a UC (which I'm doing now) over a JC.
Also I recently build Grixis control, a board wipe-heavy deck headed by Crosis the Purger, and its an absolute blast. You get to run damnation, languish, black sun's zenith, cyclonic rift, evacuate, anger of the gods, blasphemous act and obliterate. I guess I just love removing permanents.
>>46364821
I haven't played EDH in weeks, I just like to complain about it here.
>>46362554
>Ruination is considered a bully
Fuck that. You play a nonbasics heavy (or worse, nonbasics only) mana base and Ruination, Wave of Vitriol, and Blood Moon are the price you pay. I can understand why people don't like 'geddon or smokestack. I disagree, but I get it. But you made the choice to reach for the greedy-ass manabase, you get to live with it
>>46364821
I sometimes pseudocheat by not telling my opponents when they fuck up a rule on a card or misinterpret something
>>46364821
I told a 12 year old at draft that devoid can be used in EDH and proceeded to sell him a kozi the distortion for 50 dollars to be his commander
>>46364934
Deck link plz
>>46364742
I believe so
>>46364821
I sold out of Modern after the Eldrazi crisis, I had a sweet foil Delver list but I got a bunch of EDh staples I've been wanting for a while, also spent the leftover building Eggs and Storm which i take to modern FNM's just to spite people still playing.
>>46362489
the hell is a "store watch list"?
>>46365055
All land destruction is bullying. It makes me feel unsafe. Though it's true Ruination is more like a micro-aggression, whereas Armageddon is literally rape.
>>46365212
I would tell that to everybody
>>46362489
I am very happy my LGS isn't this shit. Like man, their commander league has babby rules, but this shit is just terrible.
>>46362489
Reliquary tower? Really? Like, actually? I get all th other cards on their shitty banlist but RELIQUARY TOWER?
>>46365380
>Don't win with these commanders or we'll ban them
>>46365496
One guy having too many cards in hand makes the other players feel inadequate.
>>46365496
Having maximum card advantage is bullying, anon.
>>46365526
>>46365380
Purphoros, Kokusho, and Wanderer are already banned as commanders but the store/EDH group thinks they're too OP to even be in a deck at all.
>>46366102
Is the one deciding these rules a big fat neckbeard baby?
>>46366102
>MFW blood artist can't even trigger once for each player in the pod without breaking the rules.
I wish I was good enough to play there, it would be an amusing challenge to see how many rules/cards you could get onto the banlist.
>>46362554
>Apocalypse
>Armageddon
>Ruination
>Obliterate
>Ruination
>All on the banned in the 99 list
It's like you didn't even read it. Funnily enough, Wave of Vitrol and From the Ashes aren't on the list.
>>46366202
It would be my goal to get Liliana's spectre on the banned list. Removing Reliquary Tower already makes my job that much easier.
Also, you have to make sure that the guy who only had one deck wins the pod so he can't play next week. You kill all but you and him asap, then purposefully play bad so that he wins. Chances are that it will drag for awhile, which is great for making people miserable.
Conversely, do the same thing by using Final Fortune. Kill 2 people and leave the guy with one deck alive. Oops ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>46366352
Nice that they at least let you run jokulhaups
>>46362489
In all honesty, this wouldn't affect any of my decks, and would probably increase my win rate.
They're still really fucking shitty rules.
>my opponent sacs defense of the heart getting Mike & Trike with a shit eating grin on his face
>do you guys scoop?
>ask him to explain how it works
>he looks at his cards for five minutes
>I guess I need a sac engine
>mfw he actually didn't know how it works
>>46366379
>>46366379
Nobody has resolved it yet, I imagine.
>>46358443
Iroas, Nigga.
Nobody I play against remembers his second ability, so they throw a whole load of resources at one big creature, expecting it to die.
It gets funnier every time they try.
>>46366427
what a fucking dumbass
>>46366427
lolololol
but yeah when my friend got his first mike and trike combo out, i also had to explain to him how he actually wins
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/anafenzas-anal-annihilation/
can i get some help with land management?
>>46366427
I like Swordsing Mike when Trike is in the GY.
>>46366543
i like swordsing Mike with Trike's ping targeting itself on the stack
that way mike is exiled and trike is in the graveyard
only works if they dont have a sac outlet though, if they do you have to do it your way, and they get to sac their mike, but you do stop the combo
>>46366543
You wouldn't believe how many people just think it's an instant win no matter what. I've gotten in many arguments when I disrupt it. I assume that goes along with the whole people not actually understanding how it works.
>>46366590
Yea. Truth be told though, I like using Pic Related. It's a much more clean finish.
>>46366640
Those are the same people who don't realize that Soulbound is a trigger and both Deadeye and its pair are vulnerable before the trigger resolves.
Fuck me, I just want to make my Meren deck good. What do I do? She's the target of spells as soon as she enters the field. I've made what changes I can to the base deck but I'm really not sure where I want to go with her. She's really fun when I can get her to work but goddamn I have a hard time getting her combos and shit started.
>>46366447
Cataclysm is also legal. Shit's great.
>>46359318
>Sigarda Heron's Grace EDH human tribal
I'm going to sacrifice a small child to get one of her soon to get that wondrous deck built
>>46367080
Not a human child though, right?
>>46367080
I know some cultures place a very low value on human life but couldn't you just wait a few days and buy it online?
QUICK! What are cards that are ABSOLUTELY essential in Sultai Sidisi?
>>46367154
wonder
>>46367154
sol ring
>>46367113
Well, I too will be attending the pre-release. I'll wait a few days when I don't get one, but I'm already impatient enough as it is.
>>46367111
What sort of monster do you take me for?
>>46367154
command tower
>>46367176
>>46367191
>>46367154
Sidisi, Brood Tyrant
>>46366479
add more nonbasiclands: Exotic Orchard, Forbidden Orchard, Reflecting Pool, City of Brass, Mana Confluence, krosan verge, some check lands, and maybe some more ramp sorceries
>>46364788
Wait, $2000? How? Are decks often that expensive?
>>46367113
Sigarda's a waifu. She's gonna be fucking expensive.
>>46367332
just put tabernacle and bazaar in every deck for no real reason ezpz
Post underrated/secret tech cards.
This card halted a wincon that my opponent pulled before I was going to win on the turn after. He tried to counter this by copying the spell, but he didn't realize it was a counter summon spell only.
>>46367332
they are when your only sense of self worth comes from having rare cardboard
>>46367332
Generally only if you insist running OG duals, zendikar fetches and old pricy lands.
After that it is bits and pieces of random good "will never see light of reprint" cards or cards that suffer the price of being played in modern.
Usually related to card advantage and broken level of mana ramp.
>>46367380
I know a dude who runs a Bazaar and Library and has no fucking idea how to use them well but "they cost a lot so they must be good"
>>46364821
i broke up (and am in the process of) breaking up my ex-boyfriend's relationships because he deserves better than people just to fuck for a while
>>46367557
>implying we think there's a girl in this thread
So you're a gay guy, huh?
>>46367578
never claimed to be a female
>>46367590
>>So you're a gay guy, huh?
>>46367703
>>46367578
lovely that you decided to point that out, well done to you sir, certainly showed me
>>46367703
>>46367590
>>46367578
come on people, do we have to play petty sexual politics when there are card games to discuss?
>>46367714
I-I'm not trying to "show" you. I just wanted to know if you were gay.
>>46367734
so why not just go
>are you gay?
duh.
You know who's gay?
Kaseto
>>46367753
I mean, he did.
>>46367753
So is that a yes?
>>46362489
So Azusa, Azami, Damia, Ad Nauseum, Doomsday, Hermit Druid, Mind Over Matter, Dream Halls, Yawgmoth's Will, Tooth and Nail, Knowledge Pool, Catastrophe, Cataclysm, Decree of Annihilation, Jokulhaups, Obliterate, Devastation, Global Ruin, Desolation Angel, and about 500 more butthurt inducing things are legal, but Reliquary Tower isn't?
Fucking neckbeards
>>46367928
someone screencap that plz
White has the best waifus. Prove me wrong. Protip: you can't.But I respect your opinion if you disagree.
>>46358443
This card is added to every one of my commander decks solely to deal with that cuntbag
>>46368095
>waifuing angels
>>46368113
>n-no homo
>>46368095
>Jhoira, quality punk waifu
>Damia, quality spook waifu
>Nekusar, quality lich bae
>Athreos, quality ??? bae
>Teysa, Baneslayer, and Pic Related - Best girl(s)
Not far from the truth, but Blue and Black definitely have contenders.
>>46368128
I'm completely straight, and I love that art. I just fucking love angels. It's got nothing to do with wanting to fuck them. Male angels, female angels, doesn't matter to me.
>Monogreen deck running around 40lands+manarocks
>Still somehow mana screwed
![[werfs flammen].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/76FA13U.jpg "[werfs flammen].jpg")
>>46358443
Purphoros.
>>46368197
So you're gay, right?
>>46358443
Ephara, used to have a flicker deck with her.
Who ever trade with Russians, how was it?
>>46368934
Get to know them first, make sure they actually play and haven't stole someone else's stuff.
Other than that, pretty good. Korean traders on the other hand are pretty rough, had all sorts of weird issues.
>>46360626
>preordered this card yesterday
>look at its price now at TCG
>it jumped three dollars higher on its median price with only 2 sellers remaining compared to yesterday
I'm glad I did it yesterday.
>>46358443
Keranos, God of Storms
great value. Even competitive decks can find a reason to stick him after everyone tries to win on t3.
>>46366427
Fuck that boring ass combo. I'm usually the first to explain to people how interactions work, but I wouldn't have told him either. I hate people who don't know how their own combos work. You know they just blindly shoved those cards in without a thought because they've heard it's a win combo. Lazy deck building, if you ask me.
>>46364821
>tell me a secret /edh/
Im at work trying to get fired.
>>46364934
>Grixis control, a board wipe-heavy deck headed by Crosis the Purger
my man <3
Im making a twin combo version. holy crap is it good and fun.
also you know that feeling when you strip 4 cards out of an opponents hand and they proceed to do nothing for the rest of the game? (because it ends a few turns later)
its like my fetish.
>>46366850
It doesn't look like anyone here knows how to use Meren either.
>>46366850
Meren you just jam your deck full of etb creatures and sac outlets. Who cares if meren dies instantly? All your creatures should be very strong individually. Your plan is to slowly grind out a win or use pod chains.
>>46366427
Couldn't he just ping Triskelion twice and then a player? That works doesn't it?
>>46371319yes
>>46371319
Try reading the fucking cards and then you will understand.
>>46371365
My bad I actually read the post wrong, I though he said to his friend he needed a sac engine
>>46355909
>activate Deathgrip before ETB
Bye
>>46358443
The Pimp Daddy himself
>>46370845
I'm pretty much the same. If you know something's a combo, but don't actually know the combo, yet you're running it, then I'm going to let you eat shit.
But I've seen plenty of times people with things on the field that they didn't know could be used as locks or game-winning combos, so I'll actively tell them how they can win, even at my own demise.
>>46366590
That only works if he is a dumbass.
If you sword the mikaeus in response to his first ping, the triskelion can ping itself two more times in response, and start comboing off again.
>>46366850
Jam a lot of value creatures and solid re animation, throw in Pod, and both enchantments that make 1/1 & 0/1 sac to get 1 colourless mana, throw in good cards for EDH like Defense of The Heart, Lightning Greaves/Swifthoofboots and Accestisisium (spelling i cant do it) and you should be golden, once u have 4 xp counters or more u should just auto win from value recursion
>>46372506
What enchantments do that?
>>46372826
Awakening zone and from beyon.
>>46371877
I meant in response to the last ping, so he has no more to remove you dummy
>>46373294
You exile Mikeus in response to the reanimaton trigger. Trike comes back but they can no longer loop the combo. If you try to kill mike in response to a ping, they'll just kill you on the stack.
>>46373294
>last ping
Then it's already too late.
>>46373294
The way I and most players I know do it is
>Triskelion pings itself
>LET THE PING RESOLVE
>Triskelion then pings whatever it wants to kill
This way, there is no way you can exile Mikaeus or Trike without getting killed in response. If you do it in response to the first ping, Trike will just ping itself again.
You can however always exile Mikaeus in response to the Undying trigger, while Trike is in the graveyard. Stop being dumb and focus on doing that instead.
>>46372506
Do you pronounce it Ass-eat-is-ism or A-set-uh-sism ?
>>46373334
I don't think you understand the situation
They have no sac outlets in play, they have mike and trike
Trike is a 5/5 with 3 counters, it removes one to damage whoever, you let that resolve, now it's a 4/4 with 2 counters, it removes another counter, pinging itself, now it's a 3/3 with 1 counter and 1 damage marked. It removes the final counter targeting itself so it's a 2/2 with 1 damage and 1 damage on the stack targeting itself
You path to exile mike, he can't respond by removing any more counters so he's stuck, Mike is exiled and now trike is a 1/1 with 1 damage on it, it dies and does not come back because Mike is gone
>>46373434
When the fuck
Trike is a 4/4 with 3 counters
>>46373434
No you retard, you have it ping itself first twice.
>>46373407
Oh I see what you're saying, yeah they can insure they have trike in play at the end by pinging trike twice first, then they can kill trike as a state based action by removing the last counter and then yes you'll have to exile mike with the undying on the stack m
>>46373434
That works too. He could doomblade trike in response and still go off though. It's a play safer to try to kill mike while trike is off of the battlefield.
>>46373434
It doesn't work the way you think it does.
>>46373464
Mikaeus gives +1/+1
Everyone is retarded.
>>46373464
I think you forgot trikes power and toughness and mikes +1/+1
But the other poster is correct, i forgot you can ping trike twice before using the last ping
>>46373427
>A-set-uh-sism
This
>>46373467
This guy is right, my situation only works against people who haven't seen what I tried before
Once they've seen how a path can leave you with neither trike nor mike, they will ping trike twice first, then you are forced to remove mike but leave them with trike
>>46373497
The only thing in my scenario that "doesn't work that way" is that mike and trike player can play it differently, which I already admitted
>>46373563
That's not the only thing that doesn't work. You had the Trike ping itself, acknowledged that it was now
>a 3/3 with 1 counter and 1 damage marked
and still went on to say that it had no more counters to remove in response the removal spell that came after that. If the Trike has 1 damage marked and it has no counters left to remove, then it's dead and on its way to the graveyard. So you either don't understand how it works, or you explained extremely poorly.
>>46373608
Oh wait, Mike's anthem effect. Right. Then you just have Trike ping itself twice initially. It would be ridiculous for it to ping itself once, PING SOMETHING ELSE, then ping itself again. That's going out of your way to make your Trike vulnerable, you eliminate its toughness before anything else to make sure that the only thing keeping it alive are the counters. I have never, ever seen someone play Trike the way >>46373434 explains.
>>46373498
>>46373507
Actually, i was forgetting that trike is 1/1
Most creatures that enter with counters (or at least the ones I use) are all 0/0
I don't run mike and trike, so I just assumed it was also 0/0
My bad, I've inadvertently becomes a shitposter today
>>46373608
I guess i did explain it poorly
I meant that after its a 3/3 with 1 counter and 1 damage, assuming there's no sac outlet, the trike must remove the last counter becoming a 2/2 with 0 counter and 1 damage, targeting itself with that last counter remove. Before that damage resolves, you remove mikaeus
But again you're right, I've never played with the combo, I'm going off my experience playing vs my friend who runs the combo, and he must not have realized that you can ping trike first which stops my method of working and ensures that you at least get to keep your trike after its all said and done
>>46373654
>i have never, ever seen some play trike that way
Indeed that must be why everybody was so miffed about my post
So yes you can score another point in the "magic players I know more than" column, since that tally seems so important to you, shit eating little cunt
>>46367422
Misdirection. Objectively better than Force of Will.
>"Target player draws thirty cards ehh?"
>"Target player gets two extra turns ehh?"
>"Target player takes 200 fireball damage ehh?"
>>46373735
There's no need to be upset.
>>46373737
Ehhh objectively better is a stretch, but it's a very cool card
>>46373745
Classic line dude, you are so skilled at 4chan
>>46373737
I'm a huge fan of commandeer, even though it can sometimes be tricky to feed it in a multicolored deck.
>that's a really nice turn 1 Necropotence you have there
>it would be a shame if something were to happen to it
>>46373737
Situationally better. A lot of insane shit is non-targeted. A lot of it is targeted, but Force stops both while MD turns one set inside out but can't help against the other.
>>46373787
I wasn't being facetious or trying to meme at you, there really is no need to be upset. You have a friend that plays Mike&Trike poorly, it was explained how he should be playing it to not be a shitter. You don't have to take it so personally.
>>46373427
a-set-autism
>>46358443
Karametra.
turn every mana dork into more mana, trigger landfall, hope no one plays MLD as you empty your decks lands onto the field.
>>46373902
>hope no one plays MLD
>not casting the MLD yourself in a Karametra deck, then ramping back up, all in the same turn.
Would anyone be able to give some pointers on starting an Omnath, Locus of Rage edh skeleton? Can't decide what direction I want to take it.
>>46374082
How it actually goes is
>hope no one plays MLD
>someone plays MLD
>go on the internet and complain about it
